The A7 pilot who pulled power (actually he shut down his engine) on the bolter, got the nickname “the 9 million dollar man.” That was his 3rd A7 ejection and he was only a LT. A very lucky man!
Just curious if the A7 driver that pulled power was attached to VA 15. Looks eerily similar to an incident I witnessed aboard Independence in 1982. One of the EA-6B incidents and S-3 incidents also look familiar from the same Med cruise
I had recently left VS-22 prior to the EA-6B hitting Vidar706 in the landing area. Luckily the S-3 only had front seaters. Skipper Wallace ended up in the water and the CoTac ended up in the mast on the island. His new call sign? “ Swinger”. I’m a modeler and built a model of Vidar 706 for Skipper Wallace. He teared up when I presented to him. I’m a soul survivor of an S-3 ejection that rolled right off cat 1 in Oct 1989. Currently a 737 pilot out of Miami with American. Skipper Reddinger was the pilot of the nose gear issue that took the barricade. He later became the Commadore of the East Coast SeaStrike Wing. He’s now a County Commissioner in Northeast Florida.
I currently live in Northeast Florida. Do you mean Jim Renninger (not Reddinger)? His bio says he is retired Navy and survived an S3-B barricade landing. I was onboard the TR (CVN-71) from 1985-1990 (commissioned in Oct '86). While they were building her they sent me TAD to spend time out to sea on three other ships to learn my rating. I watched many cats and traps on deployments, but was not part of air ops. I participated in a bunch of FOD walkdowns just to get some fresh air at times. Over those five years I remember several losses of planes and I think one helicopter too. There was also the unfortunate incident of one of the deck crew walking backwards into an E2C's prop in spring 1988. I think that was the worst event of all on any ship I was on during that time.
My senior instructor for NJROTC in high school was a B-52 pilot during the Vietnam War. He retired when my class graduated and the entire school, and some of his previous students, came to give him a salute in our graduation gear, service uniforms or whatever we still had when his retirement was announced at graduation. More than 5000 people saluting him made him, a man who never showed any weakness and was always there when you needed help, tear up. He was and I'm sure still is the happiest vet I've ever met, but he cared for every single student like his own child. I know several crewmen aboard ships managed to stream their salutes back to their instructor. I miss that man. By far the coolest and most level-headed man I've ever met. I'm honored to have known him.
Great stuff. Joined the Navy in May of 74 and was honored to be assigned to VF-24 at Miramar. My rate was an AME, so I worked on ejection seats, oxygen pressurization. My Divo had the unfortunate experience of ejecting twice out of an F-14, both times it was mechanical or software issues and both times I had the great joy of signing off on his seat maintenance. After the second ejection he gave me the face curtain. Nothing like the feeling, having a man you respect shaking your hand and giving you thanks for helping save his life. Miss the 22 years I had the honor of serving with some of the greatest men I’ve ever met. These videos bring back such fond memories. Love your channel, thanks for sharing with us old salts…
Face curtain? Sorry, but I can’t tell if you’re talking about an actual part or about him crying. (I am not a pilot or in the military) Could you elaborate on that? Also… Thank you for your service: I might not be American (born in Canada, lived there all my life), but I have nothing but the highest respect for someone willing to lay down their life for their country: especially for those who served in the Cold War and carrier crews. That group, you included, are arguably the ones who were in the most danger out of all who served in peacetime: even more so than submariners… If you’ve got any cool or funny stories to share, feel free to share them!
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial it is part of the ejection handles that they pull down from above their head towards upper chest level. It has a sheet type thing attached to it so it is supposed to protect their face during the ejection. The part Goose was reaching for in the original Top Gun movie. Most newer jets dont have that style ejection handle anymore, theyre either between the thighs or outboard on both sides of the thighs. To the OP, wow that must be crazy, and satisfying in a wierd way, to know that your kit and your maintenance of it was used twice to save someones life when they needed it most! Ive talked to maintainers who have said they threw up when they heard their jet crashed, and just hoped the crew was ok and that it wasnt something they messed up. People trust their lives absolutely to you and your comrades work every day!
Thank You for Your Service. In 74, my C4 munition ship was docked at Pearl, right next to the Enterprise, (I think). I climbed up as high as I could on the house, and looked amazed at the jet tails hanging over the carrier deck, ANOTHER 30 feet higher ! Carriers are just AWESOME.
Navy brat here. My dad was a Vietnam Vet. Served in the 'Sunny Southeast Asian Paradise' as he used to call it, from 65' through 68'. My family moved from Erie, Pa to Philadelphia after his return, where he was stationed at the Philadelphia Naval Base and Johnstown/Warminster NAS until he retired in 1980. I still have pictures of my dad testing ejection seats affixed to a tall tower structure. He was surrounded by a styrofoam cockpit mock-up to check for clearance issues from a pilots feet and arms during a ejection sequence. The tower had markings to show how far up the seat went to clear the imaginary tail of various aircraft. After the ejection shot, the seat with my dad strapped in, would stop and hang up there where he'd give a two thumbs up signal to the ground monitoring crew to say he was okay. Sometimes he'd sit up there for 10 minutes while data was collected, and then they would crank him down to the ground. My brother and I got to go and watch one of those tests. Really cool to see.
Most people only see the glorious parts of being a Naval Aviator watching this video really gives you perspective how dangerous the job actually is and how thin the margins are between a perfect landing and becoming a fire ball. Great video Ward.
@@phmwu7368 ya but a drone dosent solve all problems. A lot of the time you need pilots in the cockpit to complete tasks. Even if it's a dangerous job.
My heart bleeds Army, but the sight of US Navy sailors streaming towards danger, with zero regard for their own lives, just to try to save their aviators, makes me so proud. It gets me right in the feels. When men know that their bros have their back no matter what, they will risk much. That willingness to lay it on the line for your shipmates is a powerful force multiplier. And a shout out to my Navy bro onboard the Mahan (DDG 72). May he and all our Navy boys and girls return home safe. Mr. Carroll, sir, thank you for the great vids and the expert, succinct analysis. You Naval Aviators are some ice cool, disciplined, and highly trained individuals.
This brings back memories. I’ve seen so many mishaps and we lost planes on every cruise I’ve been on. The pilots and NFOs are some very brave people. Their lives are literally on the line every flight and the deck is such a dangerous place to work. I am still suffering hearing loss from the deck. To the heroes who paid the ultimate price and to the ones who were severely injured.
Wow yall lose a jet on every cruise?! Thats crazy. Mad respect. I cannot imagine launching out into utter blackness of night off a ship. The spatial disorientation risk is extreme. Or trying to land on pitching deck at night with weather and blue water ops...woah. Yea forget that mess, I like land! 😂 But have all the respect for those that do it.
The Prowler hitting the S-3 was an accident that cost EVERYONE: LSO PERSONNEL, Air Boss, Mini Boss, ATC, ATC Division Officer, radar operations personnel. Basically everyone running the show that night were reprimanded and discharged. The Boss Mini Boss and ATC and the LSO running the comms with the aircraft discharged from Naval service
My Dad was a Naval Aviator who flew in Korea and Vietnam,and he had a captivating way of telling a true story and making it come to life. He passed in 2008 at 84 years,and I miss his stories a little less because you are sharing the legacy of bravery and sacrifice that are so important to Naval Aviation. Thanks,Commander!🎸✈🖖
Ward - at the 3:00 mark: the F-8 (VF-11, AB-212) - my Dad was in the squadron on that cruise. Fortunately, pilot LTJG J.T. Kryway was recovered and able to continue flying. He eventually became the CO of VF-96, 12 years later.
I was the Flight Deck Officer's talker aboard USS Bennington in the early 1950's when we deck launched an AD Skyraider into a sea like the C 1 in your clip. We stood there breathlessly and speechless as the bow rose and then lowered displaying the AD climbing out shaking water from its wings like a good retriever coming out of a lake. If you're not familiar with Naval Aviation News of that era, I think you would enjoy Grandpaw Pettibone who covers antics and perils of that era. Unlike Willie Nelson, my heroes have always been Naval Aviators!
Chilling always watching these old tapes. I was a young ABE-3 Arresting Gear hook runner on the USS Oriskany CVA34 circa 1973. An RF-8 Crusader hit the ramp and those memories have stayed with me. It was a photo bird that had a commemorative plate on it as John Glenn had flown it and set a transcontinental speed record. I was lucky to be uninjured but our Flight Deck Bos’n took a glancing blow to his back from the starboard wheel and though he survived, he suffered life impacting injuries. For me, it was a great 24 year career and I was fortunate to retire as an O4-E Aviation Deck 6310 in 1995. You have a terrific channel. Great work and commentary.
Amazing bravery. What a crazy way to make a living. My dad was a B47 Stratojet aircraft commander at the dawn of the jet age. He lost a lot of friends. He was a FAC in viet nam, later transitioned to rotary wing and was CINC of Air Rescue and Special Ops. He said carrier pilots are a totally different breed. Considering the source, i am in awe. Great content, Ward. Keep it up.
Retired AME here. It's sobering for me to see these rough situations and at the same time satisfying, to see some ejection sequences go just right, just when commanded. Great video! Thank you
This is one of the few channels I watch on TH-cam. Always with expert commentary. TH-cam has become littered with so many trashy channels. This one is definitely one of the best aviation channels hands down.
Considering just how dangerous an aircraft carrier deck is, not just for pilots, the fact that there are not more accidents is a testament to the skill and training of everyone working on a flight deck. Great video, thanks for sharing it and showing the training, skill and dedication to all those working in such a dangerous environment. They deserve the recognition for the great job they do. I remember the USS Forrestal accident and fire (1967, If I remember correctly) during the Vietnam War. WW II ordinance. 7:21 Sincerely, Doc
Ward, fantastic channel. My Dad was an RN observer in Sea Vixens and F4’s on Ark Royal in the 60’s and 70’s. Lost too many good people on carrier opps, particularly Vixens. Good to show people the reality of carrier operations and how difficult and potentially dangerous it is. Keep up the good work.
I've seen several of your videos and have enjoyed, or should say, appreciated them. I worked the flight deck on the USS John F Kennedy, CVA-67. I am a Plank Owner and served from 1968 - 1971. My first 9 months I worked the catapults, then transferred over to V-1 division Crash and Salvage where I served the remainder of my 4 years. The flight deck is an extremely dangerous place. I have witnessed death and injuries and have been injured, fortunately not seriously. These videos bring back memories.If I remember correctly, between commissioning and the end of our first Med cruise we lost 14 planes and several of their crew. It's sad, but a brutal reminder of the danger, not only in Naval aviation, but the military in general. Thanks for the videos and hope to see more.
Lifelong 11B. I thought I hated safety briefs and checks until I joined the 101st airborne. So many FOD walks. Aviation takes safety and accountability to entirely new levels. Screw rank or ego on flight lines
Having had to guard a crash site with remains still on site when I was at the 101st, it was a sobering thing to do when my job involved aircrew activities while stationed there.
I hear ya man, as a paratrooper when those C-130 are flying NAP of the earth at a very low altitude all it would take is a split second screw up and we are going down so I got so much respect for pilots and aviation in general. C-17’s was the way to go if you had to jump fixed wing, and CH-47 was the way to go for rotary aircraft!!
Amazing what a small piece of FOD can do. I remember one night asking my buddy why the long shift. They did a engine swap on a harrier, you have to remove the wing. They get everything back together, new engine ready to go. Took room can’t find a tool and they had to eventually pull the wing back off and find it. They did but man, not a good night for that squadron. The flight schedule is relentless, got to minimize mistakes.
@@sgtairborne2449 11B here. I never jumped out of a C-17; only C-130s and C-141s, which were a rough exit, even with a screen out. I hit the fuselage once. As for helicopters, yes, the CH-47 was my favorite, too. So gentle and smooth. And stepping off the ramp was more fun than pushing off of a Huey.
I met an A-6 pilot who had an ejection seat handle on his desk. I asked about it and the sea story started “That is all that’s left of a $40M aircraft….”
Just found this, not an aviator or ex service person but seriously your professionalism knowledge and experiences are inspiring, thank you,hi from France.
Thanks Ward. I used to be in the RAAF and during the late 80s some of the footage shown in this video surfaced. We were fascinated then while watching it but there was no commentary then. After all these years it was even more enthralling as you explained each incident. RIP those that didn't make it.
James Mitchener said it best in The Bridges At Toko-Ri : “Why is America lucky enough to have such men? They leave this tiny ship and fly against the enemy. Then they must seek the ship, lost somewhere on the sea. And when they find it, they have to land upon its pitching deck. Where did we get such men?”
I remember some of this footage they showed us in PR “A”. It demonstrates why our job was important in the worst times of aviators lives and was also used to demonstrate why some of the little things in a chute exist, like the ballistic spreader for on deck ejections.
Navy and Marine Corps pilots are, by far, the best aviators in our military. The skills required to bring these modern-day jets aboard a carrier are unmatched anywhere in the world. I witnessed these pilots with my own eyes many, many years ago and still, to this day, I admire them greatly. Thank you CDR Carroll.
@@robertheinkel6225 Drones are great on a nice clear calm seas day/night . It'll be a cold day in hell before drones are autonomous, can "think" and adapt to failed electronics, and/or night carrier landings in bad weather and pitching decks in heavy seas. I wish they could handle it though - We coulda just watched a ready-room movie instead of night after night adrenaline shocks, shaky knees, and premature grey hair. LOL
Ward, I stumbled across your channel and I subscribed because it is so well done. I am a retired USAF F-4 WSO and I appreciate your expertise in Naval Flight Ops. In today's USAF fighter world there is little appreciation for what us WSOs brought to the table. It is nce to see the Navy appreciated its RIOs more.
Thank you for sharing these Ward. They help reinstate to anyone who sees them just how dangerous being a Navy fighter pilot can be. It is a reminder to be so very thankful for the hard work, sacrifice, dedication and risk all these crew put in. I thank them all for their service and sacrifices to keep us free and safe. You as well sir.
With the miniscule amount of time these crews have to make the decision to eject it's amazing any of them get out at all. Love the Channel Ward. Great insight into Naval Aviation.
Amazing compilation. Some of those mishaps I know personally and some I’ve never seen. I think it is worth noting that both Naval and Marine Aviation suffered zero fatal mishaps in FY20. A feat never accomplished. Our equipment gets better, our people get better and our processes get better. It is what we do.
These pilots have nerves of steel. I am constantly amazed at the bravery and talent it takes to fly an airplane, and land it on a very small landing strip that is bobbing and weaving in the sea. Thanks for this video!
Thanks for bringing us these clips, they show the risks inherent in naval aviation and, as such, reflect on the quality of the men and women who go to sea and fly in the defence of us all. You also deserve commendation for the respectful way that you present the clips, you strike exactly the right tone.
That was a tough video to watch. The risks these aviators face are great and their bravery massive. You commentary helpful, and highlighted the risks and the overwhelming courage of these men. Their sacrifice will not be forgotten.
Great eerie music.4:12 was amazing Ward. You must really spend a lot of time assembling these videos. Thank you for your service and this great channel.
I was a guest shooter on the TR for the S-3 barricade. I still, to this day, don’t understand why they had them do a hook-up pass with the unsafe nose gear indication. The pilot was the squadron skipper at the time, IIRC, and pulled off an awesome save. Side comment, command ejection was initiated, but the pilot’s seat didn’t go. Inspection of the seat showed errors in the gas tube installation resulting in a fleet wide inspection that found several other incorrectly plumbed seats.
In Nov.1961, off Oahu, we had an FJ2 Fury hit the round down. Dent still there in the USS Lexington, CVA 16. the FJ was carrying two full aux tanks and the aft half of the flight deck, the fantail, and both aft 5inch gun mounts caught fire. My most exciting day at sea that year. SMC,USN, Ret.
Many occupations in the military do, of the 10 deadliest occupations in the history of the US I've had three including structural ironworker, and I saw more guy's get killed and maimed in my single enlistment in the peacetime Army than I did in all three of those occupations combined over the 30 years I did them. Like Ward said in the video about the fighter pilot hacks you have to train like you fight, in the Army that can mean that you'll find yourself driving armored vehicles across the countryside at night with no headlights on, guy's laying around in the woods get run over, driver's drive those armored vehicles right off cliffs resulting in crewmembers inside getting killed and mutilated. Everyone knows that landing a jet on a carrier especially at night is a scary endeavor, but I can assure you that driving an armored vehicle in a mile long column ⅔rds of the way back in it at night time in the desert with so much dust kicked up that you can't see 10 feet in front of you is downright horrifying, one little mistake and you, or worse yet someone else, is dead or crippled for the rest of your life. The dangerous occupations I had in the civilian world had OSHA around, and I used to laugh when I'd think about how if they had oversight of the military they'd lose their minds at some of the things we did, but you have to train like you'd fight, and if that means driving an armored vehicle at night with no lights on or landing a jet on the deck of a carrier at night without the deck being illuminated by floodlights then so be it. Training for combat in the military is a dangerous, there's just no way around it, but you gotta do what you gotta do when you're training for that possibility that one day you'll be doing it in a war, then you'll be glad you've mastered driving a vehicle that weighs tons at night with no lights on, at that point it'll seem like the least of your problems.
@@dukecraig2402 Ironworker, huh? Ages ago I was a boilermaker, building water towers, pre-OSHA. It was a different world. Walking struts no wider than your boot a hundred feet up. Also saw a couple guys get busted up pretty good at Fort Riley, KS during my stint in the Army. APC, in the dark, in the rain, in the mud . . .
WOW, talk about bringing back some memories. Did my time from 79 to 83, with 3 years on the flight deck of the USS America as an ABH. I worked mostly nights for a couple of cruises cause I liked the night work. Slept right below the #2 wire an felt each jolt as they landed. After awhile your able to sleep right through it all. Thanks for sharing.
As a USAF/USN F4 exchange program pilot going through carrier orientation, I watched a dual F4 cat shot ejection from the the USS Forrestal. Thank God both survived. Got my undivided attention. Fortunately, my carrier qualification went well and the cruise with VF-102 aboard the USS independence was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. God bless the USN!
I clicked the “like” button, but “like” really doesn’t capture my reactions to the video or its content. “Sobering” and “respectful” would be more appropriate adjectives. “Like”, in this case, is just TH-cam shorthand for a recommendation to watch the video and appreciate its message.
Yes thanks I had a lot of mixed feelings about this too. Like is the correct function for some algorithm just not exactly the sentiment i feel when I see these brave aviators do what must be done.
Ah never mind, I mean what is your alternative? Is there a naval aviation Videoplatform out there to show such things? I doubt that, althoufh nie that I think of it, it would be appropriate, not?
Good point, Nadine. I hadn't really thought about an alternative to "like/dislike". I guess the best option is for viewers to elaborate on their "like/dislike" reactions in the Comments section. Indeed, the current set of comments about this video (now at 587) shows that viewers appreciate it in many different ways. I saw your earlier post about cold cat shots. Do you have any other thoughts about this video?
Just found your channel-OUTSTANDING. From a long time ago ADJ/6014/6024 U.S.M.C F-4 Phantom & now retired A & P mechanic. Never made it to the boat-always was shore based & would TRANSPAC to WESTPAC for DETs. Worked with several senior Naval Aviators in the mid 80's -a few of whom were guests of the North Vietnamese in the 60's & 70's-was honored to have worked with them & got lucky & hitched a few rides with them out in W-291. Kudos.
I enjoy your channel, Sir. I was an Egress tech in the U.S.A.F. for 23 years, so ejection videos are of interest to me. In the Air Force, most crashes happen away from cameras, so we either get good news of successful ejections or bad news and a long wait for the after action report to see what the reason for both the crash and ultimate fatality... lots of lost sleep waiting for that info. Thank you for your channel.
And so many argue with me that Naval Aviation is no big deal. I maintain that you are the best. Got into it with a rotor pilot one night at a bar when I asked if he could land on a deck that not only was moving forward but up and down at the same time he concided.
very professional commentary by CDR Ward. so much better than any "pro" speaker that a production company might have brought in. RIP shipmates, we tried our best to learn from your tragedies and Naval Aviation is much less deadly now
Night carrier ops... man that is a different kinda beast, for sure. I remember I had a Navy pilot tell me once when I was stationed at Andrews that if I wanted to know how difficult it was getting back aboard ship at night he suggested some evening when I was bored to take a postal stamp, place it glue side up in the middle of my living room floor. Stand up on the couch, turn off the lights, then extend your tongue. JUMP and try to lick the stamp before you hit the floor. Night Carrier Ops defined. haha! As always, love the content! CURRENTLY going back through all the vids on the channel and watching everything. Thanks for all the hard work and great info, Sir!
I was onboard Nimitz the night we lost the Whale, (A3) The plane boltered several times, before the barricade attempt. When they hit the top of the barricade it ripped the nose gear off and smashed down on the deck and slid off the angle. When it hit the water we all ran to the port side threw our flashlights in. The tail was visible floating and we all thought that they would have a good chance to egress. What we didn't know until later was the fuselage had separated forward of the tail and sank immediately. We lost 7 Shipmates that night. A terrible thing to witness. What made it worse was seeing the nose gear behind the island for several days, until it was removed.
I remember a grim article about the A-3D in one of the San Diego newspapers around 1986 titled "The Doomed." Not sure, but perhaps it was about this crew? The A-3 was the last carrier based jet (not counting turboprops) without ejection seats.
There’s a video with the LSO communications, absolutely frustrating that no one, not one single person, was aware of the situation, until the airboss yells “wave-him off” but it’s already too late.
An outstanding job in both your digging up these clips and narrating them. Thanks for doing the job better than just about any other aviator could have.
These crews - have incredible courage. The potential for an accident is high, but they still do it because they are dedicated... Thank You for this excellent presentation Ward... Your channel is Awesome!!!
I love these videos you provided. It's testament to the incredible danger and skill involved in carrier aviation. As a pilot, I'm just humbled by these incredible people. Your narration on these are spot-on and give excellent context. Thank you so much for sharing this insight.
As a kid some of the most profound moments I had were listening to family and friends who were US Navy vets talking about some of the stuff they had lived through in WW II. Like being attacked by Kamikazes while supporting invasions and being caught in cyclones. You got some sense from their tone of voice, facial expression and body language just how serious these experiences were and the permanent imprint they left on the sailors. Watching these videos brings home just how close to the edge Navy personnel exist even in peacetime.
Watched similar mishaps while a SNA, and later as an instructor discussed it with budding SNAs. It creates an entirely different perspective and understanding to watch these mishaps during training, then watch again after actually piloting aircraft aboard the carrier. I felt the throttle and stick in my hands while watching this. Very thankful, and RIP to those who went before to pave the way for NATOPS.
*_Very_** sobering footage. This presents the side of Naval Aviation that pretty much everyone knows exists, but never experiences if not serving in an associated MOS. Thank you for presenting this Mr. Carroll.*
@wardcarroll I was aboard USS Franklin D Roosevelt, CVA-42 for two of these incidents. The VF-14 F-3H (1:05 minutes) was not a cold cat. The cat never fired. The holdback shear pin ("dogbone") broke when he went to burner. It took him a few seconds to realize what was happening and power down. He stood on the brakes but the deck was wet and he slid sideways. He brought power back up to straighten out but it was too late. The F-8U (3:01) incident happened exactly as you describe. The story was that the pilot's VF-11 squadron mates ragged him for landing with one hand on the stick and one hand on the face curtain. His response "I'm here, ain't I?"
Requiescat in pace (RIP); Lt. Mark Lange, LCDR J. SKull, LTJG C. O. Neil, AD2 F.Pena, LCDR Robert "Ernie" Sides. Fair winds and following seas shipmates (and fellow Naval Aviators).
I just love your videos. The matter-of-fact narration, not with the usual exaggeration or pathos, which I despise. But at the same time it is not emotionally cold, it is with heart and compassion, as one who pays attention to the score and what is said can experience.
OMG!!!! I've finally found the clip of the S3 I saw live land in the barricade. Happens at 10:35 of the video. Happened on the USS Roosevelt in the Med. This was the first ship I had ever deployed too. I was working in SSES at the time as a Morse code operator. Saw it all happen on the CCTV. I remember the S3 getting airborne and it seemed like forever they had him circling the carrier. They wanted to divert him to a land airfield but he didn't have enough fuel. Captain came on the 1MC and told the crew they were landing him in the barrier. I'll never forget watching the dot of his landing lights getting bigger and bigger in the deck camera. Finally the camera switched to sideview and the S3 landed in the barrier without incident. You could hear the whole ship cheer when he landed. It was truly spectacular. I remember the co pilot landed on the deck and he stayed in his seat. His chute drug him across the deck on his knees. He was tore up pretty bad but He did survive. Thank you Ward for finding this clip. There was nothing I loved more than watching the 14's launch at night from the crow's nest. Was the most amazing experience of my life.
I was in VS-24 when that happened. Luckily it was the xo with many hours and saved the aircraft. Lockheed messed up and put the wrong ejection valve in. This is why the copilot is the only one that ejected.
@@donaldo20032003 hey you dont happen to know what the tail number of this s-3 is and when was the date this happened. The reason i ask is because i work at a small museum with a S-3B viking bu# 159743 and according to some secondary sources it had a nose gear collapse and a barricade landing on march 2nd, 1989. I have been trying to find out if this clip is of our S-3b Viking
I remeber in Naval Aircrew school one of the first things that happens is right after class up they make you sign a volunteer to fly form, and explain that aviation is inherently dangerous and to look around the room at the faces of your classmates. Not everyone will be alive in this room in 20 years. Sure as Shit several of my class were later killed in helicopter class A mishaps in CH-46 squadrons. Additionally one of my students when i was an Aircrew instructor had her husband killed in a CH-53 crash in Afghanistan back in 2012. I was a contractor and was the first asset on station overhead the crash site, but didnt realize it was her husband until a few days later. Aviation is crazy dangerous and will be as long as there are human souls on board. As hard as it is to watch there are lessons to be learned and tidbits of info that can be gleaned out of videos like this, keep up the good work Sir.
Hello I am a former USS Midway member i served from November 82 through December 88 I have unfortunately seen a few mishaps during my time on Midway i was there from march 83 to June 86. Three I.O. cruses I appreciate this video it bring back many good as well as bad memories That time always makes me proud of my service It was probably the best times of my life Oh I was a grape .Have a good one
My neighbor was an A-7 mechanic aboard USS ORISKANY in 'Nam. He has told me more than once, "never in my life had I been more aware of my surroundings than when I was on deployment & taught me many life lessons outside of the navy".... 🚬😎👍
But it was EXCITING in 1972. Med cruises were fun at that time, Linebacker2 was the Med on steroids. Way. more hours, way more flight opps, way more work, little more money and fun in Olongapo was almost free. I pretty much helped the chaplain all the time though.😜
Hey Ward. I enjoy watching your channel. I'm an old Crusader/Tomcat pilot, so old that I was in at the start of VF124 becoming the F-14 RAG. VF-1 and VF-2 sort of did their own RAG and then in early 1974 some of us helped get the RAG going. I was an LSO in VF-211, then the RAG LSO for VF-124 in the F-14. Lots of great stories. Thanks for your breakdown of the Navy's failures in the Kara Hultgreen crash. Before I knew anything else, when she called the ball with her name, I knew there was more to the story. I also knew a lot of the higher-ups that made the decisions. 'nuf said. Cowboy
That was JB Renninger pilot of the VS-24 S-3 that the CoTac punched out. Downed all S-3's in the fleet because it turns out the seat self/crew selector switch could be installed backwards and in that plane it was, so the CoTac seat was in self eject mode. LCDR Renninger was our Maintenance Officer when I was in VS-32.
Ward, I got to fly with a lot of Naval aviators at the airlines. This video gives me a new appreciation of what it takes to do this kind of flying. WOW!
Thank you for your service! I come from a Navy family but I could not serve due to a pretty severe case of scoliosis. My father served in Army US based during Vietnam, Step father served in Vietnam, he flew recon in A-5 or A-6's (I think) and served on a couple of different carriers. 6 of my extended family all served peacetime. I came about that close to moving to Florida and attending ATP school but the cost and the debt I would have ended up with would have been pretty large and back in the late 80's you flew 3rd seat and made about $35k and I would have had that debt looming over me for around 12-15 years to right seat and finally left seat at around 45-50yrs old and I realized I was just a glorified bus driver in the sky. I took ground school and flew with my step dad a few times. It is a very expensive hobby and I never was able to pay for flight time so I let that dream go.....
There are two places you may not want to be on or in. A carrier flight deck. Or a oil refinery when it starts up after a rebuild. I had watched from a frigate on plane guard. Never had to watch them scoop somebody up after anything like that. But refineries continue to explode and burn. It is not fun day when that happens. Should have stayed in the Navy. There are accidents that suck the life out of you. Then you go back to work on the next job site.
I just stumbled on this channel and I'm very happy I did. I was a Crew Chief on an F4 and did two Tonkin Gulf cruises. One on the Ranger and one on the Constellation. This brings back a ton of memories. Thank you.
Thank you, Sir for this presentation. My father flew B-25s in WWII. I wanted a career with the military but was rejected (4F). I did the next best thing and became a civilian pilot retiring as a B-767 Captain 22 years ago. I follow your channel and have nothing but the most respect and admiration for you and your fellow aviators.
2:10 That inflight engagement is insane. I was a yellow shirt on the flight deck of a carrier and I remember seeing a Rhino from a training squadron have one. You see thousands of traps so after a while you can tell if an aircraft is above/below glide slope long before they trap. I was in Fly 3, right on the foul line next to the wires, and I remember seeing this aircraft waaay below glide slope on final. They were so extremely low that for a split second I thought they were going to slam into the fantail. Right as they get to the ship, the engines kicked on as the initiated the wave off, and they hovered above the deck with absolutely nothing touching deck except the tailhook which I spotted at the last second. They get a positive rate of climb and start flying away when the hook caught the wire and it just SNATCHED this jet out of the air. It pitched nose down so violently that I thought this pilot was going to go nose first into the deck and kill themselves. LUCKILY, the nose gear took the brunt of the impact and the rear gear slammed into the deck so hard that a few of us got hit with shrapnel flying off the aircraft. Needless to say, it got towed away, but major credit to the maintainers because that thing was up and flying a week later or so. I imagine that pilot was promptly assigned the callsign "SLAM". I saw a lot of crazy things working on the flight deck, including an aircraft crashing in the water on the downwind leg right off the side with both the crew ejecting safely, but that jet having the inflight engagement scared the absolute hell out of me.
Hi Sr.Carroll!! Very very interesting documentary, GREAT JOB YOUR CHANNEL and CONGRATULATIONS. I try to undestand all your documentary because i like the US NAVY.Best regards from Spain.👌👌
I remember reading about the A6 partial ejection in an issue of (if I recall correctly) Approach Magazine, as told by the flight crew. Absolutely harrowing stuff.
Jaw-dropping. I’m the son of a Vietnam-era naval aviator and somehow I *still* can’t understand how my father did this for a living and was able to discuss it calmly years later.
It's one thing to have to do a job as dangerous as this in peace time when take off and landing is the most dangerous part of your day - can only imagine having it be the start and end to a far more dangerous and horrifying day of combat over very hostile territory.
This is fascinating stuff to watch but brutal as well. Thank you for your commentary explaining the various sequences and causes. It's usually up to the viewer to try and interpret what is actually happening, so your insight is most welcome.
As an Army guy I have to say, although We always have that inter service rivalry where theres always that banter back and forth. Im going to admit, you guys need to have balls like coconuts to be doing that shit day in and day out. Absolute Respect to you.
Ward, I was on the Midway when the F-4 had the strut go through the wing. It was the CAG's plane. We also had an F-4 hit the round down at night with a centerline drop tank. REO made it out but the pilot did not. Thanks for you videos.
i was a wardroom cook on the stennis from 98 to 02. the pilots were some of my favorite people. i know the feeling was mutual. in fact, carrier air wing 9 gave me a nam before i left. my own command didn't even recognize me.
Thank you, Ward for another incredible video, and for sharing what became of some of those who survived. Very curious to know, what might typically happen to the career of a pilot who destroys their plane in a landing accident as a the result of pilot error?
I've watched this video several times. Well done. I was an E-5 in the 60s & did not work on the flight-deck, but did watch all of the, mostly young men, put their lives on the line due to the activity all around them. Also, my hats off to the pilots with their incredible skills. We lost three pilots in one year from our squadron due to crashes.
The A7 pilot who pulled power (actually he shut down his engine) on the bolter, got the nickname “the 9 million dollar man.” That was his 3rd A7 ejection and he was only a LT. A very lucky man!
No doubt!
Dayum!
Just curious if the A7 driver that pulled power was attached to VA 15. Looks eerily similar to an incident I witnessed aboard Independence in 1982. One of the EA-6B incidents and S-3 incidents also look familiar from the same Med cruise
@@shootermcgavin633 it was on the Midway in the early 80s
@@Riverplacedad1 va-56, If so, I was there in 1981 and knew this pilot.
I had recently left VS-22 prior to the EA-6B hitting Vidar706 in the landing area. Luckily the S-3 only had front seaters. Skipper Wallace ended up in the water and the CoTac ended up in the mast on the island. His new call sign? “ Swinger”. I’m a modeler and built a model of Vidar 706 for Skipper Wallace. He teared up when I presented to him.
I’m a soul survivor of an S-3 ejection that rolled right off cat 1 in Oct 1989. Currently a 737 pilot out of Miami with American.
Skipper Reddinger was the pilot of the nose gear issue that took the barricade. He later became the Commadore of the East Coast SeaStrike Wing. He’s now a County Commissioner in Northeast Florida.
I currently live in Northeast Florida. Do you mean Jim Renninger (not Reddinger)? His bio says he is retired Navy and survived an S3-B barricade landing.
I was onboard the TR (CVN-71) from 1985-1990 (commissioned in Oct '86). While they were building her they sent me TAD to spend time out to sea on three other ships to learn my rating. I watched many cats and traps on deployments, but was not part of air ops. I participated in a bunch of FOD walkdowns just to get some fresh air at times. Over those five years I remember several losses of planes and I think one helicopter too. There was also the unfortunate incident of one of the deck crew walking backwards into an E2C's prop in spring 1988. I think that was the worst event of all on any ship I was on during that time.
I was the SDO in HS 7 in October 1989. We had just lost a Tomcat the night prior. Vr. Chef
My senior instructor for NJROTC in high school was a B-52 pilot during the Vietnam War. He retired when my class graduated and the entire school, and some of his previous students, came to give him a salute in our graduation gear, service uniforms or whatever we still had when his retirement was announced at graduation. More than 5000 people saluting him made him, a man who never showed any weakness and was always there when you needed help, tear up. He was and I'm sure still is the happiest vet I've ever met, but he cared for every single student like his own child. I know several crewmen aboard ships managed to stream their salutes back to their instructor.
I miss that man. By far the coolest and most level-headed man I've ever met. I'm honored to have known him.
Great stuff. Joined the Navy in May of 74 and was honored to be assigned to VF-24 at Miramar. My rate was an AME, so I worked on ejection seats, oxygen pressurization. My Divo had the unfortunate experience of ejecting twice out of an F-14, both times it was mechanical or software issues and both times I had the great joy of signing off on his seat maintenance. After the second ejection he gave me the face curtain. Nothing like the feeling, having a man you respect shaking your hand and giving you thanks for helping save his life. Miss the 22 years I had the honor of serving with some of the greatest men I’ve ever met. These videos bring back such fond memories. Love your channel, thanks for sharing with us old salts…
Face curtain? Sorry, but I can’t tell if you’re talking about an actual part or about him crying. (I am not a pilot or in the military) Could you elaborate on that?
Also… Thank you for your service: I might not be American (born in Canada, lived there all my life), but I have nothing but the highest respect for someone willing to lay down their life for their country: especially for those who served in the Cold War and carrier crews. That group, you included, are arguably the ones who were in the most danger out of all who served in peacetime: even more so than submariners…
If you’ve got any cool or funny stories to share, feel free to share them!
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial it is part of the ejection handles that they pull down from above their head towards upper chest level. It has a sheet type thing attached to it so it is supposed to protect their face during the ejection. The part Goose was reaching for in the original Top Gun movie.
Most newer jets dont have that style ejection handle anymore, theyre either between the thighs or outboard on both sides of the thighs.
To the OP, wow that must be crazy, and satisfying in a wierd way, to know that your kit and your maintenance of it was used twice to save someones life when they needed it most! Ive talked to maintainers who have said they threw up when they heard their jet crashed, and just hoped the crew was ok and that it wasnt something they messed up.
People trust their lives absolutely to you and your comrades work every day!
Thank You for Your Service. In 74, my C4 munition ship was docked at Pearl, right next to the Enterprise, (I think). I climbed up as high as I could on the house, and looked amazed at the jet tails hanging over the carrier deck, ANOTHER 30 feet higher ! Carriers are just AWESOME.
Navy brat here. My dad was a Vietnam Vet. Served in the 'Sunny Southeast Asian Paradise' as he used to call it, from 65' through 68'. My family moved from Erie, Pa to Philadelphia after his return, where he was stationed at the Philadelphia Naval Base and Johnstown/Warminster NAS until he retired in 1980. I still have pictures of my dad testing ejection seats affixed to a tall tower structure. He was surrounded by a styrofoam cockpit mock-up to check for clearance issues from a pilots feet and arms during a ejection sequence. The tower had markings to show how far up the seat went to clear the imaginary tail of various aircraft. After the ejection shot, the seat with my dad strapped in, would stop and hang up there where he'd give a two thumbs up signal to the ground monitoring crew to say he was okay. Sometimes he'd sit up there for 10 minutes while data was collected, and then they would crank him down to the ground. My brother and I got to go and watch one of those tests. Really cool to see.
Ward, did the Cod’s have any kind of ejection seats.
Most people only see the glorious parts of being a Naval Aviator watching this video really gives you perspective how dangerous the job actually is and how thin the margins are between a perfect landing and becoming a fire ball. Great video Ward.
Luckily we have advanced drone technology to these jobs anno 2021!
@@phmwu7368 what?
@@tristanallain1483 X-47 UCAV to strike and many others to do reconnaissance
@@phmwu7368 ya but a drone dosent solve all problems. A lot of the time you need pilots in the cockpit to complete tasks. Even if it's a dangerous job.
If was easy we let the Air force do it.
My heart bleeds Army, but the sight of US Navy sailors streaming towards danger, with zero regard for their own lives, just to try to save their aviators, makes me so proud. It gets me right in the feels.
When men know that their bros have their back no matter what, they will risk much. That willingness to lay it on the line for your shipmates is a powerful force multiplier.
And a shout out to my Navy bro onboard the Mahan (DDG 72). May he and all our Navy boys and girls return home safe.
Mr. Carroll, sir, thank you for the great vids and the expert, succinct analysis. You Naval Aviators are some ice cool, disciplined, and highly trained individuals.
This brings back memories. I’ve seen so many mishaps and we lost planes on every cruise I’ve been on. The pilots and NFOs are some very brave people. Their lives are literally on the line every flight and the deck is such a dangerous place to work. I am still suffering hearing loss from the deck. To the heroes who paid the ultimate price and to the ones who were severely injured.
Amen.
Their lives changed as they pursued the victory of freedom throughout the world.
DOUGout
Wow yall lose a jet on every cruise?! Thats crazy. Mad respect.
I cannot imagine launching out into utter blackness of night off a ship. The spatial disorientation risk is extreme. Or trying to land on pitching deck at night with weather and blue water ops...woah. Yea forget that mess, I like land! 😂
But have all the respect for those that do it.
my berthing was under the hanger deck and when those guys went full power it was the loudest thing i've ever heard !
The Prowler hitting the S-3 was an accident that cost EVERYONE: LSO PERSONNEL, Air Boss, Mini Boss, ATC, ATC Division Officer, radar operations personnel. Basically everyone running the show that night were reprimanded and discharged. The Boss Mini Boss and ATC and the LSO running the comms with the aircraft discharged from Naval service
My Dad was a Naval Aviator who flew in Korea and Vietnam,and he had a captivating way of telling a true story and making it come to life. He passed in 2008 at 84 years,and I miss his stories a little less because you are sharing the legacy of bravery and sacrifice that are so important to Naval Aviation. Thanks,Commander!🎸✈🖖
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Amen.
DOUGout
Ward - at the 3:00 mark: the F-8 (VF-11, AB-212) - my Dad was in the squadron on that cruise. Fortunately, pilot LTJG J.T. Kryway was recovered and able to continue flying. He eventually became the CO of VF-96, 12 years later.
Wow. This just illustrates how difficult carrier aviation is and just how good these guys need to be. Very respectfully presented.
I was the Flight Deck Officer's talker aboard USS Bennington in the early 1950's when we deck launched an AD Skyraider into a sea like the C 1 in your clip. We stood there breathlessly and speechless as the bow rose and then lowered displaying the AD climbing out shaking water from its wings like a good retriever coming out of a lake.
If you're not familiar with Naval Aviation News of that era, I think you would enjoy Grandpaw Pettibone who covers antics and perils of that era. Unlike Willie Nelson, my heroes have always been Naval Aviators!
Wow, that’s was some knarly footage. RIP to those lost aviators.
Chilling always watching these old tapes. I was a young ABE-3 Arresting Gear hook runner on the USS Oriskany CVA34 circa 1973. An RF-8 Crusader hit the ramp and those memories have stayed with me. It was a photo bird that had a commemorative plate on it as John Glenn had flown it and set a transcontinental speed record. I was lucky to be uninjured but our Flight Deck Bos’n took a glancing blow to his back from the starboard wheel and though he survived, he suffered life impacting injuries. For me, it was a great 24 year career and I was fortunate to retire as an O4-E Aviation Deck 6310 in 1995. You have a terrific channel. Great work and commentary.
Amazing bravery. What a crazy way to make a living. My dad was a B47 Stratojet aircraft commander at the dawn of the jet age. He lost a lot of friends. He was a FAC in viet nam, later transitioned to rotary wing and was CINC of Air Rescue and Special Ops. He said carrier pilots are a totally different breed. Considering the source, i am in awe. Great content, Ward. Keep it up.
Retired AME here. It's sobering for me to see these rough situations and at the same time satisfying, to see some ejection sequences go just right, just when commanded.
Great video! Thank you
Hope they bought the PR's and AME's the bottle of choice as tradition was.
This is one of the few channels I watch on TH-cam. Always with expert commentary. TH-cam has become littered with so many trashy channels. This one is definitely one of the best aviation channels hands down.
Considering just how dangerous an aircraft carrier deck is, not just for pilots, the fact that there are not more accidents is a testament to the skill and training of everyone working on a flight deck. Great video, thanks for sharing it and showing the training, skill and dedication to all those working in such a dangerous environment. They deserve the recognition for the great job they do.
I remember the USS Forrestal accident and fire (1967, If I remember correctly) during the Vietnam War. WW II ordinance. 7:21
Sincerely, Doc
Ward, fantastic channel. My Dad was an RN observer in Sea Vixens and F4’s on Ark Royal in the 60’s and 70’s. Lost too many good people on carrier opps, particularly Vixens. Good to show people the reality of carrier operations and how difficult and potentially dangerous it is. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, Mark.
I've seen several of your videos and have enjoyed, or should say, appreciated them. I worked the flight deck on the USS John F Kennedy, CVA-67. I am a Plank Owner and served from 1968 - 1971. My first 9 months I worked the catapults, then transferred over to V-1 division Crash and Salvage where I served the remainder of my 4 years. The flight deck is an extremely dangerous place. I have witnessed death and injuries and have been injured, fortunately not seriously. These videos bring back memories.If I remember correctly, between commissioning and the end of our first Med cruise we lost 14 planes and several of their crew. It's sad, but a brutal reminder of the danger, not only in Naval aviation, but the military in general. Thanks for the videos and hope to see more.
Man, some of this footage is hard to watch. Rest in Peace to those who gave all.
I was on the USS Midway from 82-85. Thanks for putting this together. You did a great job! Thank everyone for their service!
Lifelong 11B. I thought I hated safety briefs and checks until I joined the 101st airborne. So many FOD walks. Aviation takes safety and accountability to entirely new levels. Screw rank or ego on flight lines
Having had to guard a crash site with remains still on site when I was at the 101st, it was a sobering thing to do when my job involved aircrew activities while stationed there.
I hear ya man, as a paratrooper when those C-130 are flying NAP of the earth at a very low altitude all it would take is a split second screw up and we are going down so I got so much respect for pilots and aviation in general. C-17’s was the way to go if you had to jump fixed wing, and CH-47 was the way to go for rotary aircraft!!
Amazing what a small piece of FOD can do. I remember one night asking my buddy why the long shift. They did a engine swap on a harrier, you have to remove the wing. They get everything back together, new engine ready to go. Took room can’t find a tool and they had to eventually pull the wing back off and find it. They did but man, not a good night for that squadron. The flight schedule is relentless, got to minimize mistakes.
@@sgtairborne2449 11B here. I never jumped out of a C-17; only C-130s and C-141s, which were a rough exit, even with a screen out. I hit the fuselage once. As for helicopters, yes, the CH-47 was my favorite, too. So gentle and smooth. And stepping off the ramp was more fun than pushing off of a Huey.
Thanks VERY Much For Sharing This!!
I met an A-6 pilot who had an ejection seat handle on his desk. I asked about it and the sea story started “That is all that’s left of a $40M aircraft….”
Just found this, not an aviator or ex service person but seriously your professionalism knowledge and experiences are inspiring, thank you,hi from France.
Thanks Ward. I used to be in the RAAF and during the late 80s some of the footage shown in this video surfaced. We were fascinated then while watching it but there was no commentary then. After all these years it was even more enthralling as you explained each incident. RIP those that didn't make it.
James Mitchener said it best in The Bridges At Toko-Ri : “Why is America lucky enough to have such men? They leave this tiny ship and fly against the enemy. Then they must seek the ship, lost somewhere on the sea. And when they find it, they have to land upon its pitching deck. Where did we get such men?”
Classic line.
Best modern navy movie ever
One of my favorite movies.
The movie transposed the name of the real bridges, as it was Goto Ri by current transliteration standards. Old way was Koto Ri.
Bridges at Toko Ri is the most realistic post World War II navy movie ever made in my opinion.
Thanks
I remember some of this footage they showed us in PR “A”. It demonstrates why our job was important in the worst times of aviators lives and was also used to demonstrate why some of the little things in a chute exist, like the ballistic spreader for on deck ejections.
A stark reminder of how dangerous it is, I have immense respect for all aviators who routinely launch themselves on and off ships.
Navy and Marine Corps pilots are, by far, the best aviators in our military. The skills required to bring these modern-day jets aboard a carrier are unmatched anywhere in the world. I witnessed these pilots with my own eyes many, many years ago and still, to this day, I admire them greatly. Thank you CDR Carroll.
There was an old saying "Naval aviation pilots can do everything the AF pilots can - and then they have to land on that tiny ship".
The Navy now has a drone that can refuel itself in flight, and land on the carrier by itself.
Unmatched anywhere in the world? RN aviators would argue with that.
@@robertheinkel6225 - I believe it's a tanker to refuel manned aircraft.
@@robertheinkel6225 Drones are great on a nice clear calm seas day/night . It'll be a cold day in hell before drones are autonomous, can "think" and adapt to failed electronics, and/or night carrier landings in bad weather and pitching decks in heavy seas. I wish they could handle it though - We coulda just watched a ready-room movie instead of night after night adrenaline shocks, shaky knees, and premature grey hair. LOL
Ward, I stumbled across your channel and I subscribed because it is so well done. I am a retired USAF F-4 WSO and I appreciate your expertise in Naval Flight Ops. In today's USAF fighter world there is little appreciation for what us WSOs brought to the table. It is nce to see the Navy appreciated its RIOs more.
Thank you for sharing these Ward. They help reinstate to anyone who sees them just how dangerous being a Navy fighter pilot can be. It is a reminder to be so very thankful for the hard work, sacrifice, dedication and risk all these crew put in. I thank them all for their service and sacrifices to keep us free and safe. You as well sir.
With the miniscule amount of time these crews have to make the decision to eject it's amazing any of them get out at all. Love the Channel Ward. Great insight into Naval Aviation.
especially when you know ejecting means the loss of a multi million dollar machine
Amazing compilation. Some of those mishaps I know personally and some I’ve never seen. I think it is worth noting that both Naval and Marine Aviation suffered zero fatal mishaps in FY20. A feat never accomplished. Our equipment gets better, our people get better and our processes get better. It is what we do.
These pilots have nerves of steel. I am constantly amazed at the bravery and talent it takes to fly an airplane, and land it on a very small landing strip that is bobbing and weaving in the sea. Thanks for this video!
Thanks for bringing us these clips, they show the risks inherent in naval aviation and, as such, reflect on the quality of the men and women who go to sea and fly in the defence of us all.
You also deserve commendation for the respectful way that you present the clips, you strike exactly the right tone.
Thanks!
That was a tough video to watch.
The risks these aviators face are great and their bravery massive.
You commentary helpful, and highlighted the risks and the overwhelming courage of these men. Their sacrifice will not be forgotten.
Great eerie music.4:12 was amazing Ward. You must really spend a lot of time assembling these videos. Thank you for your service and this great channel.
I was a guest shooter on the TR for the S-3 barricade. I still, to this day, don’t understand why they had them do a hook-up pass with the unsafe nose gear indication. The pilot was the squadron skipper at the time, IIRC, and pulled off an awesome save. Side comment, command ejection was initiated, but the pilot’s seat didn’t go. Inspection of the seat showed errors in the gas tube installation resulting in a fleet wide inspection that found several other incorrectly plumbed seats.
I was in V-32 at the time and I remember the AME's ripping all the seats out to check for that.
In Nov.1961, off Oahu, we had an FJ2 Fury hit the round down. Dent still there in the USS Lexington, CVA 16. the FJ was carrying two full aux tanks and the aft half of the flight deck, the fantail, and both aft 5inch gun mounts caught fire. My most exciting day at sea that year. SMC,USN, Ret.
Naval Aviation takes a level of courage the average person just cannot comprehend.
Many occupations in the military do, of the 10 deadliest occupations in the history of the US I've had three including structural ironworker, and I saw more guy's get killed and maimed in my single enlistment in the peacetime Army than I did in all three of those occupations combined over the 30 years I did them.
Like Ward said in the video about the fighter pilot hacks you have to train like you fight, in the Army that can mean that you'll find yourself driving armored vehicles across the countryside at night with no headlights on, guy's laying around in the woods get run over, driver's drive those armored vehicles right off cliffs resulting in crewmembers inside getting killed and mutilated.
Everyone knows that landing a jet on a carrier especially at night is a scary endeavor, but I can assure you that driving an armored vehicle in a mile long column ⅔rds of the way back in it at night time in the desert with so much dust kicked up that you can't see 10 feet in front of you is downright horrifying, one little mistake and you, or worse yet someone else, is dead or crippled for the rest of your life.
The dangerous occupations I had in the civilian world had OSHA around, and I used to laugh when I'd think about how if they had oversight of the military they'd lose their minds at some of the things we did, but you have to train like you'd fight, and if that means driving an armored vehicle at night with no lights on or landing a jet on the deck of a carrier at night without the deck being illuminated by floodlights then so be it.
Training for combat in the military is a dangerous, there's just no way around it, but you gotta do what you gotta do when you're training for that possibility that one day you'll be doing it in a war, then you'll be glad you've mastered driving a vehicle that weighs tons at night with no lights on, at that point it'll seem like the least of your problems.
@@dukecraig2402 Very well said
@@dukecraig2402 Ironworker, huh? Ages ago I was a boilermaker, building water towers, pre-OSHA. It was a different world. Walking struts no wider than your boot a hundred feet up. Also saw a couple guys get busted up pretty good at Fort Riley, KS during my stint in the Army. APC, in the dark, in the rain, in the mud . . .
WOW, talk about bringing back some memories.
Did my time from 79 to 83, with 3 years on the flight deck of the USS America as an ABH. I worked mostly nights for a couple of cruises cause I liked the night work. Slept right below the #2 wire an felt each jolt as they landed. After awhile your able to sleep right through it all.
Thanks for sharing.
Amazing coverage, sir. Thank you and eternal peace to those lost in pursuit of such unforgiving and challenging work.
As a USAF/USN F4 exchange program pilot going through carrier orientation, I watched a dual F4 cat shot ejection from the the USS Forrestal. Thank God both survived. Got my undivided attention. Fortunately, my carrier qualification went well and the cruise with VF-102 aboard the USS independence was one of the most incredible experiences of my life. God bless the USN!
So you as an Air Force pilot were carrier qualified in the Phantom? Thats pretty awesome. Former ABH3 USN V1 Div Crash and Salvage.
I clicked the “like” button, but “like” really doesn’t capture my reactions to the video or its content. “Sobering” and “respectful” would be more appropriate adjectives. “Like”, in this case, is just TH-cam shorthand for a recommendation to watch the video and appreciate its message.
Absolutely agree...hard to really sum it up.
Yes thanks I had a lot of mixed feelings about this too. Like is the correct function for some algorithm just not exactly the sentiment i feel when I see these brave aviators do what must be done.
Maybe they should simply set it to "good" "bad".
Ah never mind, I mean what is your alternative? Is there a naval aviation Videoplatform out there to show such things? I doubt that, althoufh nie that I think of it, it would be appropriate, not?
Good point, Nadine. I hadn't really thought about an alternative to "like/dislike". I guess the best option is for viewers to elaborate on their "like/dislike" reactions in the Comments section. Indeed, the current set of comments about this video (now at 587) shows that viewers appreciate it in many different ways.
I saw your earlier post about cold cat shots. Do you have any other thoughts about this video?
Just found your channel-OUTSTANDING. From a long time ago ADJ/6014/6024 U.S.M.C F-4 Phantom & now retired A & P mechanic. Never made it to the boat-always was shore based & would TRANSPAC to WESTPAC for DETs. Worked with several senior Naval Aviators in the mid 80's -a few of whom were guests of the North Vietnamese in the 60's & 70's-was honored to have worked with them & got lucky & hitched a few rides with them out in W-291. Kudos.
I enjoy your channel, Sir. I was an Egress tech in the U.S.A.F. for 23 years, so ejection videos are of interest to me. In the Air Force, most crashes happen away from cameras, so we either get good news of successful ejections or bad news and a long wait for the after action report to see what the reason for both the crash and ultimate fatality... lots of lost sleep waiting for that info.
Thank you for your channel.
And so many argue with me that Naval Aviation is no big deal. I maintain that you are the best. Got into it with a rotor pilot one night at a bar when I asked if he could land on a deck that not only was moving forward but up and down at the same time he concided.
very professional commentary by CDR Ward. so much better than any "pro" speaker that a production company might have brought in. RIP shipmates, we tried our best to learn from your tragedies and Naval Aviation is much less deadly now
Thanks Ward-enjoy your channel very much.
I just realized that you are also one of the hosts of the Proceedings podcast!!! Thanks for all you do, sir!
Night carrier ops... man that is a different kinda beast, for sure. I remember I had a Navy pilot tell me once when I was stationed at Andrews that if I wanted to know how difficult it was getting back aboard ship at night he suggested some evening when I was bored to take a postal stamp, place it glue side up in the middle of my living room floor. Stand up on the couch, turn off the lights, then extend your tongue. JUMP and try to lick the stamp before you hit the floor. Night Carrier Ops defined. haha! As always, love the content! CURRENTLY going back through all the vids on the channel and watching everything. Thanks for all the hard work and great info, Sir!
I was onboard Nimitz the night we lost the Whale, (A3) The plane boltered several times, before the barricade attempt. When they hit the top of the barricade it ripped the nose gear off and smashed down on the deck and slid off the angle. When it hit the water we all ran to the port side threw our flashlights in. The tail was visible floating and we all thought that they would have a good chance to egress. What we didn't know until later was the fuselage had separated forward of the tail and sank immediately. We lost 7 Shipmates that night. A terrible thing to witness. What made it worse was seeing the nose gear behind the island for several days, until it was removed.
I was on the flight deck that night. VF-84 AO. Terrible sight to see.
I was there too, cat#2 , bad night.
I remember a grim article about the A-3D in one of the San Diego newspapers around 1986 titled "The Doomed." Not sure, but perhaps it was about this crew? The A-3 was the last carrier based jet (not counting turboprops) without ejection seats.
@@roymccarty9481 I was a Plane Captain in VA-86.
@@RocketToTheMoose It was in 1987.
The EA-6B collision with the S-3 was VAQ-130 & VS-22 on the Enterprise. Unfortunately all 4 perished in the prowler crew...
Thanks for the vids
The Prowler striking the Viking is absolutely heartbreaking.
All 4 perished in the prowler
There’s a video with the LSO communications, absolutely frustrating that no one, not one single person, was aware of the situation, until the airboss yells “wave-him off” but it’s already too late.
An outstanding job in both your digging up these clips and narrating them. Thanks for doing the job better than just about any other aviator could have.
These crews - have incredible courage. The potential for an accident is high, but they still do it because they are dedicated... Thank You for this excellent presentation Ward... Your channel is Awesome!!!
I love these videos you provided. It's testament to the incredible danger and skill involved in carrier aviation. As a pilot, I'm just humbled by these incredible people. Your narration on these are spot-on and give excellent context. Thank you so much for sharing this insight.
As a kid some of the most profound moments I had were listening to family and friends who were US Navy vets talking about some of the stuff they had lived through in WW II. Like being attacked by Kamikazes while supporting invasions and being caught in cyclones. You got some sense from their tone of voice, facial expression and body language just how serious these experiences were and the permanent imprint they left on the sailors.
Watching these videos brings home just how close to the edge Navy personnel exist even in peacetime.
Blue skies to those who lost their lives. Amazing footage that EVERY aviator should see and reflect on. Thanks for sharing.
Watched similar mishaps while a SNA, and later as an instructor discussed it with budding SNAs. It creates an entirely different perspective and understanding to watch these mishaps during training, then watch again after actually piloting aircraft aboard the carrier. I felt the throttle and stick in my hands while watching this. Very thankful, and RIP to those who went before to pave the way for NATOPS.
*_Very_** sobering footage. This presents the side of Naval Aviation that pretty much everyone knows exists, but never experiences if not serving in an associated MOS. Thank you for presenting this Mr. Carroll.*
@wardcarroll I was aboard USS Franklin D Roosevelt, CVA-42 for two of these incidents. The VF-14 F-3H (1:05 minutes) was not a cold cat. The cat never fired. The holdback shear pin ("dogbone") broke when he went to burner. It took him a few seconds to realize what was happening and power down. He stood on the brakes but the deck was wet and he slid sideways. He brought power back up to straighten out but it was too late. The F-8U (3:01) incident happened exactly as you describe. The story was that the pilot's VF-11 squadron mates ragged him for landing with one hand on the stick and one hand on the face curtain. His response "I'm here, ain't I?"
Thank you for closed captioning this!
"A very ugly ramp strike", is there ever a pretty looking one?
Great job, thanks for keeping this footage alive.
Requiescat in pace (RIP); Lt. Mark Lange, LCDR J. SKull, LTJG C. O. Neil, AD2 F.Pena, LCDR Robert "Ernie" Sides. Fair winds and following seas shipmates (and fellow Naval Aviators).
I just love your videos.
The matter-of-fact narration, not with the usual exaggeration or pathos, which I despise.
But at the same time it is not emotionally cold, it is with heart and compassion, as one who pays attention to the score and what is said can experience.
OMG!!!! I've finally found the clip of the S3 I saw live land in the barricade. Happens at 10:35 of the video. Happened on the USS Roosevelt in the Med. This was the first ship I had ever deployed too. I was working in SSES at the time as a Morse code operator. Saw it all happen on the CCTV. I remember the S3 getting airborne and it seemed like forever they had him circling the carrier. They wanted to divert him to a land airfield but he didn't have enough fuel. Captain came on the 1MC and told the crew they were landing him in the barrier. I'll never forget watching the dot of his landing lights getting bigger and bigger in the deck camera. Finally the camera switched to sideview and the S3 landed in the barrier without incident. You could hear the whole ship cheer when he landed. It was truly spectacular. I remember the co pilot landed on the deck and he stayed in his seat. His chute drug him across the deck on his knees. He was tore up pretty bad but He did survive.
Thank you Ward for finding this clip. There was nothing I loved more than watching the 14's launch at night from the crow's nest. Was the most amazing experience of my life.
I was in VS-24 when that happened. Luckily it was the xo with many hours and saved the aircraft. Lockheed messed up and put the wrong ejection valve in. This is why the copilot is the only one that ejected.
@@donaldo20032003 hey you dont happen to know what the tail number of this s-3 is and when was the date this happened. The reason i ask is because i work at a small museum with a S-3B viking bu# 159743 and according to some secondary sources it had a nose gear collapse and a barricade landing on march 2nd, 1989. I have been trying to find out if this clip is of our S-3b Viking
I remeber in Naval Aircrew school one of the first things that happens is right after class up they make you sign a volunteer to fly form, and explain that aviation is inherently dangerous and to look around the room at the faces of your classmates. Not everyone will be alive in this room in 20 years. Sure as Shit several of my class were later killed in helicopter class A mishaps in CH-46 squadrons.
Additionally one of my students when i was an Aircrew instructor had her husband killed in a CH-53 crash in Afghanistan back in 2012. I was a contractor and was the first asset on station overhead the crash site, but didnt realize it was her husband until a few days later. Aviation is crazy dangerous and will be as long as there are human souls on board.
As hard as it is to watch there are lessons to be learned and tidbits of info that can be gleaned out of videos like this, keep up the good work Sir.
When did you go through NAACS?
@@scenepointjudge class 0211.
So sad to see some of the crew’s that lost their life’s ☹️🙏 thank you and your family for your service ❤️
Hello I am a former USS Midway member i served from November 82 through December 88 I have unfortunately seen a few mishaps during my time on Midway i was there from march 83 to June 86. Three I.O. cruses I appreciate this video it bring back many good as well as bad memories That time always makes me proud of my service It was probably the best times of my life Oh I was a grape .Have a good one
My neighbor was an A-7 mechanic aboard USS ORISKANY in 'Nam.
He has told me more than once, "never in my life had I been more aware of my surroundings than when I was on deployment & taught me many life lessons outside of the navy"....
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But it was EXCITING in 1972. Med cruises were fun at that time, Linebacker2 was the Med on steroids. Way. more hours, way more flight opps, way more work, little more money and fun in Olongapo was almost free. I pretty much helped the chaplain all the time though.😜
Hey Ward. I enjoy watching your channel. I'm an old Crusader/Tomcat pilot, so old that I was in at the start of VF124 becoming the F-14 RAG. VF-1 and VF-2 sort of did their own RAG and then in early 1974 some of us helped get the RAG going.
I was an LSO in VF-211, then the RAG LSO for VF-124 in the F-14.
Lots of great stories.
Thanks for your breakdown of the Navy's failures in the Kara Hultgreen crash. Before I knew anything else, when she called the ball with her name, I knew there was more to the story. I also knew a lot of the higher-ups that made the decisions. 'nuf said.
Cowboy
Thanks for watching, Cowboy!
That was JB Renninger pilot of the VS-24 S-3 that the CoTac punched out. Downed all S-3's in the fleet because it turns out the seat self/crew selector switch could be installed backwards and in that plane it was, so the CoTac seat was in self eject mode. LCDR Renninger was our Maintenance Officer when I was in VS-32.
I was there.
Ward, I got to fly with a lot of Naval aviators at the airlines. This video gives me a new appreciation of what it takes to do this kind of flying. WOW!
Thank you for your service! I come from a Navy family but I could not serve due to a pretty severe case of scoliosis. My father served in Army US based during Vietnam, Step father served in Vietnam, he flew recon in A-5 or A-6's (I think) and served on a couple of different carriers. 6 of my extended family all served peacetime. I came about that close to moving to Florida and attending ATP school but the cost and the debt I would have ended up with would have been pretty large and back in the late 80's you flew 3rd seat and made about $35k and I would have had that debt looming over me for around 12-15 years to right seat and finally left seat at around 45-50yrs old and I realized I was just a glorified bus driver in the sky. I took ground school and flew with my step dad a few times. It is a very expensive hobby and I never was able to pay for flight time so I let that dream go.....
Can’t get myself to like this video but think it needed to be posted. It shows the difficulty and the sacrifices of the naval aviator.
Rest In Peace to all who perished in service to our country.
Amen!! And God Bless all who are serving 🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
There are two places you may not want to be on or in. A carrier flight deck. Or a oil refinery when it starts up after a rebuild.
I had watched from a frigate on plane guard. Never had to watch them scoop somebody up after anything like that.
But refineries continue to explode and burn. It is not fun day when that happens. Should have stayed in the Navy.
There are accidents that suck the life out of you. Then you go back to work on the next job site.
As usual, Great Job Ward! I haven’t said it enough so Thank you and all our brothers and sisters who served and continue to serve.
I just stumbled on this channel and I'm very happy I did. I was a Crew Chief on an F4 and did two Tonkin Gulf cruises. One on the Ranger and one on the Constellation. This brings back a ton of memories. Thank you.
Welcome, John.
Thank you, Sir for this presentation. My father flew B-25s in WWII. I wanted a career with the military but was rejected (4F). I did the next best thing and became a civilian pilot retiring as a B-767 Captain 22 years ago. I follow your channel and have nothing but the most respect and admiration for you and your fellow aviators.
2:10 That inflight engagement is insane. I was a yellow shirt on the flight deck of a carrier and I remember seeing a Rhino from a training squadron have one. You see thousands of traps so after a while you can tell if an aircraft is above/below glide slope long before they trap. I was in Fly 3, right on the foul line next to the wires, and I remember seeing this aircraft waaay below glide slope on final. They were so extremely low that for a split second I thought they were going to slam into the fantail. Right as they get to the ship, the engines kicked on as the initiated the wave off, and they hovered above the deck with absolutely nothing touching deck except the tailhook which I spotted at the last second. They get a positive rate of climb and start flying away when the hook caught the wire and it just SNATCHED this jet out of the air. It pitched nose down so violently that I thought this pilot was going to go nose first into the deck and kill themselves. LUCKILY, the nose gear took the brunt of the impact and the rear gear slammed into the deck so hard that a few of us got hit with shrapnel flying off the aircraft. Needless to say, it got towed away, but major credit to the maintainers because that thing was up and flying a week later or so. I imagine that pilot was promptly assigned the callsign "SLAM".
I saw a lot of crazy things working on the flight deck, including an aircraft crashing in the water on the downwind leg right off the side with both the crew ejecting safely, but that jet having the inflight engagement scared the absolute hell out of me.
Hi Sr.Carroll!! Very very interesting documentary, GREAT JOB YOUR CHANNEL and CONGRATULATIONS. I try to undestand all your documentary because i like the US NAVY.Best regards from Spain.👌👌
I remember reading about the A6 partial ejection in an issue of (if I recall correctly) Approach Magazine, as told by the flight crew. Absolutely harrowing stuff.
That was amazing. "So, you fly in an A6?" "Nope, I fly ON an A6......literally."
Lt Keith Gallagher on the Abraham Lincoln. Ward, you need to do an episode about this one.
Thanks for putting these together, most I haven't seen before.
Really brings to life just how dangerous Carrier landings/launches are.
Jaw-dropping. I’m the son of a Vietnam-era naval aviator and somehow I *still* can’t understand how my father did this for a living and was able to discuss it calmly years later.
It's one thing to have to do a job as dangerous as this in peace time when take off and landing is the most dangerous part of your day - can only imagine having it be the start and end to a far more dangerous and horrifying day of combat over very hostile territory.
Really enjoying your walking us thru these and your teaching (especially the Hultgreen mishap). Thank you!
This is fascinating stuff to watch but brutal as well. Thank you for your commentary explaining the various sequences and causes. It's usually up to the viewer to try and interpret what is actually happening, so your insight is most welcome.
As an Army guy I have to say, although We always have that inter service rivalry where theres always that banter back and forth.
Im going to admit, you guys need to have balls like coconuts to be doing that shit day in and day out.
Absolute Respect to you.
Working Carrier Flight Ops is pure Tango with the Reaper himself.
I have felt his heart beat and the frost of his touch.
Ward, I was on the Midway when the F-4 had the strut go through the wing. It was the CAG's plane. We also had an F-4 hit the round down at night with a centerline drop tank. REO made it out but the pilot did not. Thanks for you videos.
i was a wardroom cook on the stennis from 98 to 02. the pilots were some of my favorite people. i know the feeling was mutual. in fact, carrier air wing 9 gave me a nam before i left. my own command didn't even recognize me.
Excellent video Ward as to the extreme conditions and Dedication to Professionalism of these air crew. Amazing.
Thank you, Ward for another incredible video, and for sharing what became of some of those who survived. Very curious to know, what might typically happen to the career of a pilot who destroys their plane in a landing accident as a the result of pilot error?
Just want to tell you, I really appreciate your presentations on youtube.
Thank you.
Good compilation. R.I.P. to those who gave all! Fair winds and following seas.
I've watched this video several times. Well done. I was an E-5 in the 60s & did not work on the flight-deck, but did watch all of the, mostly young men, put their lives on the line due to the activity all around them. Also, my hats off to the pilots with their incredible skills. We lost three pilots in one year from our squadron due to crashes.
Naval aviation has always carried a significantly a greater risk than other forms of flying.
Those who choose this path have my utmost admiration.