THREE YEARS IN THE NETHERLANDS: My experience and why I may consider leaving🧐
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2022
- Hi Beautiful people,
In this video, I share with you what my life in the Netherlands look like after living here for three whole years! I share the highlights of my stay as well as the challenges I have faced. I also share what my plans for the future is and if I would ever consider living permanently in the Netherlands. I hope you enjoy this video as much as I enjoyed creating it.
I also hope this video helps someone in someway.🙃
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You’re adorable. Thank you for sharing! My husband and I are likely going to move to the NL next summer with our toddler, so this has been helpful to watch. 🙏🏼
Thanks for your comment Victoria. I’m so glad the videos help in some way. I hope you have an amazing time in the Netherlands 🤗
Love your videos! My family is moving to NL very soon and we are so excited for our new adventure. It's also been beautiful to see the friendly comments from Dutch people there.
I’m glad you’re excited and I really hope you have an amazing time in the Netherlands. 🤗
Lesson 1 - Doe normaal :)
Great contents. Thanks. I’m moving to the Netherlands next month from Germany to start my new job. I’m learning a lot from your channel 🙏
Weldone Adejimi, I’m glad these videos help in some way🤗. I hope you enjoy an amazing amazing time in your new role
So good to see you guys thriving in our small and sometimes cold country. And thanks for adding some Nigerian vibe to the Netherlands, we need more of that. You’re such an excellent representative for us, who wouldn’t want to live here after seeing your videos. 😀
Hahahahah😆. Thanks so much for your comment 🤗and I’m so glad and happy to be here so I’m sincerely sharing my experience so far.
Hi
Is Netherlands as cold as UK
@@julietedeh8122 Pretty much the same climate but it’s getting hotter every year it seems.
Usually if you are complaining a lot, someone might say "Go back to your own country." It's rare for a complete stranger to yell at you on the street "Go back to your own country." Good you survived and bloomed in The Netherlands. Your energy is so positive and uplifting. Dank je wel.
Hi Jessica,
I forgot to tag the video where I described the whole story but it’s still on my channel incase you’re interested in the details. Not everyone is nice and sane😆 and I’ve come to accept that.
Thanks for your comment comment, I’m glad you liked it in some way 🤗
love your videos 😍 wish all the best at this stage of your phd and keep inspiring us ❤️
Thank you so much Rosa🤗
You make me love the Netherlands more whenever I watch your videos. I visited in 2019 and it was so much fun. Thanks so much for your videos.
I’m binge watching your videos sis.. Interesting as usual 🥰
Miss you ❤️❤️
Thanks so much my baby girlll. I miss you tooo😩😍🥰
In love with your video quality 🥰😍 impressive.
Thank youu🤗
A nice relay of your opinion and experience living in the Netherland, and it was good you had fun relaying to us - vibrant, colourful and cheerful.
Thanks Tom 🤗. How are you doing? Hope you had a nice holiday/August?👌
@@josphineogugua I am fine. The family and you, I guess you are kicking real good? Vacationing at the moment (US) and I am having it great🌼. I get cheered by the dexterity expressed in your posts.
Nice video! I’m planing to work in Nederland and your story gives me many ideas.
I’m glad my story helps I’m some way. 🤗
I really have to change my computer screen to a super wide screen to fit your smile... I love it...thanks for your eternal good mood!
This is a cute comment. Thank youuu😆🤗
I love that you are with your family. That's nice.
This is one of the most amazing videos I have seen. Thanks
Thanks for your comment Nneka🤗
I just moved to Groningen from Nigeria yesterday, my experience so far is great.
That’s really great news. Welcome to the Netherlands 🤗
@@josphineogugua thank you
The bicycle city of the world
Dear Joshpine, with such positive vibes, looks and intellect you up the average of all measurable scales in The Netherlands and make our country look better abroad. Please stay.
Thank you so much Geert. I appreciate your comment 🤗
love the video!
Thank you Samantha
My gurl forever❤❤❤. Love youuuuu
Love you too my Nne😍🥰🥰🥰
Nice video! Please make a video on the Dutch citizenship and the exception for renouncing one's present citizenship
Hi Sharon, this is on my list so stay tuned🤗
You look absolutely amazing 😻
Wonderfully presented god bless
dont leave :( I love you here in the netherlands.
Hahahaha. I ain’t going no where😆
Remember if you become Dutch, that also makes you European. And gives you the right to live in other EU countries too :)
That’s true. Ofcourse there are benefits but also some challenges especially with renunciations
@@josphineogugua It depends. I presume the exception you highlight is like this:
This rule is that you can have dual nationality if you are married to a dutch national.
Technically, say Chike gets citizenship first (he is required to renounce Nigerian nationality), You can then obtain Dutch Nationality while retaining the Nigerian nationality. eventually Chike can claim his Nigerian Nationality again since you would have become Dutch.
ANYWAYS, I hear there are intentions to allow dual nationality for 1st gen immigrants. 2nd gen will have to choose a side under that proposal.
I agree with the bikes and nature a lot 😂 but I love my country always when I leave it for a while.
09:00 you say it jokingly, but there’s certainly truth in that point. If you’re nice yourself, people usually respond friendly back.
Moved to Eindhoven for work from Lagos, Nigeria 4 months ago and enjoying it so far.
That's great news. I hope you have an amazing time🤗
@@josphineogugua Doing my best 🤗
Yeah indeed
Its super excited. If I may ask, is it possible does the number o years you stayed in Netherlands counts to become a citizen? And how many years?
Hi Segun,
It depends on the reason for your stay, if it’s for work, it takes 5 years. If it’s for study or a few other reasons, it could take up to 10years, it really depends. I think you can get most of the details from the Dutch immigration website.
Okay, you know you're cute!!!!💚💚💚
Thanks you. 🤗
Would be really really interesting to see a detailed video about a citizenship in the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Okay Denys then I’ll consider that then🤗
@@josphineogugua Thanks🙏🏼 Wish the best to you and to your TH-cam channel🇳🇱💜
Seconded! I’m considering settling there..
@@Victoria-nm7dy I’m still thinking to move and start there from the beginning… I know it sounds crazy, but who didn’t risk not drinking champagne right😉
You look so gorgeous !!
Thanks so much Tho🤗
I know right!!! She's amazing!🤗♥
The Netherlands is one of the best country to live. I am very happy to live here.
It is indeed beautiful 🥰
Please can you do a video explaining the procedures for a pregnant woman who’s just moving to the Netherlands. The registration, pregnant care and the costs and all
This has been on my mind. I'll consider it for sure🤗
Im from uk..lived in Netherlands..limburg district on tempory work visa..Now brexit has happened..can a uk retired citizen live in the Netherlands..or does the 90 day rule affect this please..
I would love to hear a video of you explaining them citizenship
Being in Australia, I've been told 1000's of times to go back where I come from and for one reason only - I'm too direct and straight forward - it's really weird. Homesickness will kick in at times, especially during illness or death of family back home, it's only normal. If you decide to go back home with your PhD and use your knowledge there, don't see anything wrong with that either. You experienced Dutch culture and from what I can see you have been a positive member of Dutch society (and your hubby and little one) - just choose what's right for you and your family, that's what counts in the end.
Thank you for your comment🤗
Could I get details about the process on how you moved to the Netherlands. I'm married to a Zambian and we have a child together and I want know what the process is because from what I have seen the only way is to do the Dutch inburgeringscursus which means she would need to learn Dutch. Did you have to do that?
I have only WAEC, (secondary school certificate) can I be allowed to live and work then further my education later. I don't mind taking the citizenship as long as am allowed to visit my parents here in Nigeria.
Not sure where you live but there still are Christian elemetery schools in the Netherlands (mainly in the bible belt I think bnut you can check in your area). I was raised with no religion but our "general" school had the option to have one hour every 2 weeks to hear some bible stories (it was every week but one week there was a priest the other week a "Father" (not sure if that is the correct translation for pater). I went to both as I was a curius child. After a year my parents asked me how I felt on the topic of religion, my reaction was that I had critical questions that got very lame answers so I dropped off but I have always had quite a few friends with different believes and always had the atmost respect for them as long as they respected my non-believe in the whole topic.
On that topic, ourr culture is still soaked with Christain values (unfortunately imho). Take the holidays, mariage and the Christian parties in our ministerie (although we state in our law that there should be a devide between religion and state). But the roots and indoctrination of the church go deep and it's a hold over from the middle ages.
The problem most families could encounter bringing up kids in a different culture is that the two start to clash. Most of the time is the lack of the parents understanding the Dutch culture. That is why learning the language, and trough that the Dutch culture, is the most improtant thing for parents to do. If that happens you get much richter kids who value their heritage culture and the one they are raised in (in this case Dutch) and I think they are better for it.
HiJosephine ! Many people who feel wronged by somebody feel the need to say something that really hurts . And when such people see that the wrongdoer has a dark skin something that hurts is easily found. But that does not mean ALWAYS that it it has racist grounds. But it is still offensive and bland of course.
I agree with you on this. At first I thought it was on the grounds of racism, but after thinking it through, maybe he was just having a bad day and I was the unfortunate victim😀. I’ve moved on from it and I’ve had many amazing experiences so I don’t have to dwell on that single event.
Citizenship.
The trick is that one of you have to change to dutch citizen ship, and then after a while the other can request citizenship without renouncing on the base of spousal citizenship.
Oh and for Dutch citizenship you need to have at least a certain level of fluency in Dutch language.
Please do a video about the Dutch citizenship 😁🙏🏻🌹 #interested
Okay Manil, I’ll add this to my list🤗
@@josphineogugua 😃😃🙏🏻🌹💕
Personally i think that people just think mountains = beautiful, yes it is but you dont need mountains to have beautiful nature for example the dunes are beautiful & the sand drifts the netherlands has is very unique, standing there is almost as if youre in the desert.
I agree that people have different definitions of beauty and what appeal to them. For me, it’s greenery, mountains and beautiful seas. For someone else it could be entirely different 😊
There is always a few characters that are stupid and judge you off of your skin color
Just ignore them because you are accepted here by the majority of people
Exactly! Thank you so much for this. I’m happy I moved on and have had amazing experiences
@@josphineogugua and those experiences are all that matter!
On behalf of The netherlands
I appologise for these small brained people
Your skin color is beautiful
And your positive energy is inspiring
@@Goregreet The fact that 200 nationalities coexist in the Netherlands as if they even care about what others think when they get along just fine among themselves, let alone trying to apologise for one particular group of people or person who might have said or done something wrong, sound quite ridiculous to me.
@@mauritsvanoranje6725 i mean
It's not that deep
I just felt bad for that experience she had and wanted to tell her that we don't claim those few
If you're afraid your kids won't grow up with religion, you can look into churches, mosques, synagogues, and other houses of worship in your area.
Most will welcome you and your children to learn more about their religion.
Your children are free to believe what they believe, and are allowed to talk about it.
To us, religion is a personal choice, and shouldn't be forced or denied simply because of someone's disagreement.
We may not talk about it a lot, but there are many religious communities in the country, and I've never heard of even one denying people from learning more about them.
it's only a choice in NL and such countries. but when you move out of tollerance you get into indocutrination countries like black ones with religion, spanish with religion and so on.
You should know that people from different backgrounds are usually not good at changing culture which is why they bring it along. That includes indoctrination of religion.
All black communities indoctrinate with religion and slavery issues from 400y ago. thats their culture to never let go and to continue the negativity under a banner of fighting for equality.
When I was young in 1972 people disliked the fact I had long hairs. It changed and now everybody accept the fact that people ate different. Become Dutch and I would love te see you here. You are welcome.
Very nice video! About letting your children grow up with religieus values: you can choose this part of the society if you want to. Join a church community (you probably did that allready), but also for children you can choose a religieus school, from their 4th year of age untill they are 18. And even some HBO opleidingen are christian. You can find sportsclubs and other activities within the christian community. For me the nice thing about living here, is that it is a choice. I didn't want my children to go to a christian school (had a very bad experience myself), so i chose a public school. But in this society as a whole, i think you might be right about the christian values, that is not so abundant. I would not know in what country it would be? The USA maybe?
Hi Mai, thanks so much for all your suggestions. I think they are really helpful.
I intend to give some of the institutions a try and see how that works for my little one. Ultimately he will make his choice, I just want to make sure I provided him with enough information and example 🤗
How difficult is it to get job for the spouse (wife) of phd student ? Do you think phd salary is good enough to stay with your spuse and a 4 year child in Netherland ?
Hello. Do I need to legalise and notarize my documents or can I submit it the way i have it? For admission and visa.
I think You need to legalise your documents. You can confirm this with the school you’ve applied to.
how do you make out in rain and snow if dont have vehicle?
You're lovely!
Thank you🤗
@@josphineogugua You're welcome.
Thank you for all your honesty! Did you know we also have more religion parts here in The Netherlands?
Hi Missi. I didn’t realize this but I’m happy to have my kid grow up where we are currently. I do intend to share my religion and believes with him as he grows. He’ll decide for himself at some point what he wants.
@@josphineogugua Good to hear. I like Delft a lot. Im born in Noord-Holland then mvoed to Den Haag at the age of 16 and ended up in Delft when starting to live on my own, and Delft feels like a small village where a lot of people know each other but without the gossip that is part of a small village.
Love your vibe
The introductory screenshot shows the question "Would I consider leaving the Netherlands?" I will answer is for you: No!!! Don't you dare!!
I understand the feeling however. At some point you are inbetween being Nigerian and Dutch but that is a process you will have to go through. I think the future looks bright for your family here. 👍I look forward to your coming video and wish you and your family all the best!
😆 thanks Bert for your comment. I do intend to stay for much longer 💃🏾
thing is bert. You dont make that decision at all. Her motivations arent in line with yours after all you're 2 different people.
if she wishes to move let her be, By now i think she knows the culture here and if she wants to experience something new that up to her.
Great Content 👍 Is it challenging getting an accommodation in Netherlands?
Hi Jane,
The house scarcity is still an issue especially I’m the Randstad area of the country. But outside these areas, accommodation is fairly easier to get. Also if you’re coming to study, schools can help provide accommodation if you apply on time.
Thanks
Racism is common wherever people travel. Be that in Nigeria or the Netherlands. Even between different countries within the EU there is a difference how you are treated. And that is on all of us, so yes it happens.
You can just practice your faith here, there are churches and schools in all towns and villages. You just don't have much choice if you choose this, but discuss the options with the members of the Church. There is also a church service on TV on Sunday, so faith is also present here. I am an atheist, after my catholic upbringing, and also took my children to catholic and public schools. Now they have made their own choice.
Thank you Bep😊
There's one thing I don't understand .
People say their country is the best in the world and ..they stay in the Netherlands .
pls don't leave! we need more beauty here!
Haha. Thanks Chris🤗
We left the Netherlands after foolish corona measures in 2020-2022 from lying government conspiring with silenced media outlets. This society is sustainable broken and so we left. Sold everything and moved to Curaçao were we could buy a very nice house with solar panels and batteries. So no more mortgage payments and energy bills... Summer all year round and the most beautiful beaches downhill. But the best thing: retirement at 59 yo in stead of 67 yo plus 3 months...
Wowww. I do have friends from Curaçao and hope to visit someday. I’m glad things worked out for you 🫶
How's the education system in the Netherlands? Specifically primary/elementary school? Are subjects taught in English?
To answer your last question: no, if they follow the Dutch curriculum. In the higher classes English is taught as a subject at most primary schools. But in the bigger cities there are English/American/international schools where all subjects are taught in English.
There is a religious part in the Netherlands where you can grow your child, but it is people who put you under a microscope when choosing your clothes and what you do on Sunday!
Haha thanks for sharing. I didn’t realize there was specifically a religious part in the Netherlands. I’m happy to raise my son where we currently live but share with him my values and believes. He’ll chose for himself as some point🤗
hie Josephine my name i moved to the Netherlands in January this year,I feel very lonely 🙁
You are right. Friendliness attracts friendliness.. you are too cute i agree
Thank youuuu🤗
@@josphineogugua am that lady who emailed offering you guys surrogate bonus family status... that time you were saying how uprooting self can be lonely. As one that moved here 21 yrs ago from UK. I could relate.. invite still open for you, your very linguistically gifted hubby and cute lil guy
My dream country.
Have you visited before? It will be nice to know your experience 🤗
You mentioned wanting to raise your child with christian values, (which i think is awesome!) I was wondering though, does this include anti lgbt? I myself am part of the lgbt community and i absolutely adore your video's so forgive me if this comes off as a rude or disrespectful question!
No answers... interresting. I guess now we know.
You stay in the Netherlands? 👀
@@xaenab219 yes im dutch
@@motegadg oh that's pretty cool.
I'm not Dutch.
I'm Nigerian & but stay in Turkey😊
I'm part of the lgbtq+ community too!
And yeah I feel like that's what she meant when she was talking about raising her kids in a religious environment,I feel she's Anti-lgbt but didn't wanna state it in the video for respectful reasons.
To be honest I still love my Nigerian passport, I see myself doing whatever it takes to keep my base nationality, I cannot let go of that green passport, pata pata I move to the UK to avoid quarrel.
Lol, I wish it was that easy. Anyway let's see how it goes😆
Please what school are you enrolled for PhD and is it fully funded?
i totally get your fears about raising your child in a country that isnt religious. im a Christian myself but living in a country like the Netherlands we dont get persecuted
Hay Josephine,
Have you ever heard about Tennis star Serena Williams? if not go and check out, you will surprise.
Everyone knows Serena I suppose😆. I didn't get the surprise though😆
the topography is that of a delta, the Netherlands is a cultivated mud plain, which is why it is flat, the subject of religion in the Netherlands is clear, yes you have the freedom of belief and religion, but in Dutch culture religion a private matter it is not a public issue, you will see few expressions of faith and talking about it publicly is not desired.
Can you share links about visa sponsorship jobs
Thanks so much, your video is helpful,
Please, can you link me to health care agent that recruit Registered nurse.
Ok bye
Dutch people are so nice!
I agree🤗
Yes ... I just moved to Netherlands last week ...
You are such a sweet lady, but one thing must be said: Nobody really "needs" a religion. Growing up your child in a Religious way in an Non-Religious country does not make it any easier for your kid. Your personal religious interest, for all this matters, is of minor importance. And religion is personal; very personal, even for you. By introducing the religion and subjecting your child to it, you create an extra barrier to your child's future in this country. The fact that you were raised religiously in a religious country is up to that point, but that doesn't mean you should raise your child religiously in a non-religious country. You are not making things easier for you kid. You should be able to provide your kid an upbringing with the 10 commandments in a non religious way, on which our local norms and values and our legislation is based up on. By making your kid a religious person you are going to make him an outcast in a non religious society in which the very vast majority is non-religious in a very convincing way. Religion is often being rejected, that also goes for religious people. Please don't do that... I understand that you want best for your kid, but providing him with a religion is not going to help your kid...
I remember having a conversation about religion with my extremely religious (reformed protestant) chief. He asked me "how can you, as an atheïst, have any values?" It was one of the most offensive remarks I have ever had in my life. So, I replied "I probably have 99% the same values as you, only I don't have bronze age stories and iron age stories from afar underpinning it, I just think for myself and I know what is good for the community, family, and individuals. And I come mostly to the same conclusions as you". I had that same incling with your remark about you fearing that your child would not be religious. I put it bluntly to you in the Dutch direct way: Would being not religious make your son a lesser human being in your view? If not, why are you worried about it? If so, can you underpin your argument with examples?
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Yet you, (and possibly your boss too) did not see the real question.
That is:
Upon what do you base your values.
And why. Why is that good or bad.
Atheism cannot provide good of bad beyond pragmatism. That is where the challenge lies.
For example the basis of values for Humanism lies in the bible. That however is an unwanted message.
@@j.p.vanbolhuis8678 Morality is not synonymous with Christianity, and the bible is not the only book that guides on morality
@@lilianmaina4248 Sure, but what is the Atheist book of morality?
And are all bases of equal value?
Or are there qualitative differences between them. If so, how would you know? On the basis of what standard.
If not, then i guess ripping the heart out of prisoners of war and then eating their flesh is of equal value (Aztec morality) as feeding the hungry.
This is just an example that shows, in my opinion, that "all moralities" are of equal value is just bulshit.
But Hey, your mileage may vary.
We can make this into a complex never ending debate, but as I said.. Christianity is not synonyms with morality.. otherwise it would reflect in countries that are predominantly Christian.
I got the opportunity to move to the Netherlands but I need a host family can u please help me
You need to speak to your employer or the person sponsoring the opportunity. Let them be aware you intend to come with your family and let them recommend what to do…
Hi Josephine. Good evening. Please do you have an email I can send enquiries to? Thanks
Yes I do, it's in the description box 🙃
Yea I already sent you a mail. Thanks
Do you speak Dutch
Being Dutch my self ( A Canadian for the last 45 years, ) and I too don't like all that directness, it Does come over as being ignorant and rude. and sometime you might end up with a punch in the mouth
Wow woww Chris😆. Have you tried being direct too instead of punching?
@@josphineogugua nope. That would make me just as ignorant and rude as they are .. trust me. Dutch directness is nothing to be proud of.
churches: het Mozaiek - Veenendaal, Vineyard - Groningen ...you tube deleted my comment on Christians, probably because i posted the website? We are still in the Netherlands, us Christians.. check them out on you tube :)
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I really do not understand.
Why would you not want your child to grow up in a country where there is freedom of Choice of religion for your child, but chooses for a coutry that dictates religion?
This is really mind boggeling if someone who has clearly some interlect can bring such as it being a valid reason.
Your comment I think stems from a lack of understanding of what I meant in this video.
My point in this video is that as an ‘intellect’ who was also exposed to a culture where religion was openly discussed, I had to chance to choose for myself what to believe. But being raised in a culture where religion is not even discussed doesn’t expose you to that choice. The problem is you see your culture as one where people have freedom of religion, but what you haven’t even realized is that, that statement in itself isn’t true. If religion is treated as a plague, most children would not want to be associated with it at all, not by choice but inherently by culture.
@@josphineogugua Well said Josephine!
am in Netherland I came from Ukraine, I will love to know some things from you
You can ask for specific questions about my experience and I’ll be happy to share
@@josphineogugua I will be happy if you can send me your email or instagram id
Zoek eens op wat er in nederland met “de bible belt” wordt bedoeld. Dat is misschien een omgeving waarin je je thuis voelt als gelovige christen..
PhD, eh...wow, 👏🏿
5:37
I get that you dont like racism but you shouldn't be petty back too. be the bigger person.
Calling someone a tiny small brained human being isnt nice. Which makes it at the level of return to your country.
You had the advantage all the story long, until you said that. Now you're no better.
Dont throw punches below the belt no matter how people react.
I would argue to return to your country isnt racism. Its more of a discrimination issue.
But telling someone they small brained is insulting and discriminatory too, dont do that.
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I'm all for the Dutch nationality to be exclusive so no second nationality on the side and that's basically the idea in our constitution. What I do not agree on is making exceptions for some nationalities and not for others. In Nigeria you have the christians and muslims fight, even kidnapping each other and killing each other. If you want to call that moral and values that's up to you? It's actually the opposite. They don't have the same god, religious morals and values, so they fight. We don't since we are majority atheist. Just obey the law and you can be religious at home all you want.
Wowww BOS. I'll highly recommend you watch less TV and news, cos your conclusions sound very western, single minded and permit me to say ignorant. Wars, fighting and disagreements exist in all societies including Nigerian, Dutch and European societies. How this should affect my decision to be religious and the right to express my views is what I don't get.
@@josphineogugua I'm saying that religion is a private matter. It is how they say it between you and one of the many gods you admire. Of course Europeans killed people over religion also. That's what I mean actually. It's not believing in your special imaginary friend in the sky that causes wars. It's demanding others believe the same as you do.
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I did attend as a child but I don’t anymore. I still go to church but a different denomination. Thanks for suggesting 👍
Hi Josephine. Great work here and I particularly like your smile.
How can I reach out to you for a few questions. I tried linking up with you on LinkedIn already
Hi Michael,
An email would be a better way to reach out 🤗
I am writing a mail too,please
Please your guide and advise will be appreciated
Thanks for this information. Please are you on Instagram? I would like to follow you please. Thanks