raiding as a mage in retail vs classic

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  • @Ross_2312
    @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +1324

    Eclair de givre

    • @Chewy427
      @Chewy427 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      giving eclairs? damn they're 5 quid each here

    • @nhmgrj
      @nhmgrj ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Chewy427 more like Frost lightning

    • @Ryutsukiffe
      @Ryutsukiffe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eclair de Givre lessgong

    • @monka5982
      @monka5982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nhmgrj no fucking way really

    • @MorbidBloodshed
      @MorbidBloodshed ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Chewy427 there is a reason mages get whispers for food all day

  • @slayrx
    @slayrx ปีที่แล้ว +1409

    Damn my boy didn't even break a sweat spamming that frostbolt, inspiring.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Parser legend

    • @PhilipAlexanderHassialis
      @PhilipAlexanderHassialis ปีที่แล้ว +19

      As a vanilla mage I kinda loved MC. I could chat with people in the guild channels, could eat, talk to people around and still do perfect numbers. Even BWL had its charm. From that point on though it became less and less a "stand and hit" thing and instead it was a "do rotations, move there, press that, do this and then that and jump there and whatnot", fergedsakes Blizzard, this is NOT an arcade. It's a CRPG.

    • @SirZipper
      @SirZipper ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis They trying to copy ff14 where instead of being able to learn anything intuitively you need to read an essay or watch videos to memorize/spoil the fight completely before doing it.

    • @Gimtastic
      @Gimtastic ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@SirZipper Crazy how those Blizzard devs just copied fight design from Square before they even made XIV 🤣

    • @muffemod
      @muffemod ปีที่แล้ว +2

      autohotkey works wonders for WoW.

  • @QPoily
    @QPoily ปีที่แล้ว +464

    I'll never get tired of this meme format. I just love the paypone singing guy's vibe in comparison to the sweaty guy.

  • @WoWUndad
    @WoWUndad ปีที่แล้ว +3465

    a single retail boss has more mechanics than 3 classic expansions combined

    • @Smuffins42069
      @Smuffins42069 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      Imagine defending a dead game. Disgusting.

    • @wisniamw
      @wisniamw ปีที่แล้ว +520

      @@Smuffins42069 I like this comment, becouse every person that will read it will think about different game :D

    • @lawlestest
      @lawlestest ปีที่แล้ว +11

      doesn't matter, still a hot mess.

    • @dasit6034
      @dasit6034 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      if i cared about lots of mechanics and precise execution id play fighting games or rts not wow. hell even arena is more fun than pve with a million mechanics

    • @MarioGomez-wv4wq
      @MarioGomez-wv4wq ปีที่แล้ว +112

      @@Smuffins42069Classic Andy?

  • @scrilon2061
    @scrilon2061 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    He didn't stop casting frostbolts while dancing) Insane man

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +38

      He’s just a gamer

    • @ps5056
      @ps5056 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      macro

    • @skycaptain95
      @skycaptain95 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Simply a difference in skill.

    • @macmac6064
      @macmac6064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Autoclicker

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Footpedal bound to Frostbolt kekw

  • @cattysplat
    @cattysplat ปีที่แล้ว +888

    Classic raiding can be challenging. To stay awake.

    • @madsandersen2743
      @madsandersen2743 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      This comment made my day! xD
      Jokes aside, i LOVED 1-60 in classic. 15 minutes into my First Molten core run and I was honestly half asleep

    • @danielandersson3067
      @danielandersson3067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try play feral druid or enh shammy in wotlk. As hard as retail specs. But yeah in vanilla classic it's mostly feral druid dps and warriors that can stick out.

    • @Bacon-egg-cheese
      @Bacon-egg-cheese ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I raid in a classic guild since tbc with a full friends & family raid and staying awake has been a legitimate issue for me. I genuinely start falling asleep because of how unengaging the content is.

    • @TheLoliczech
      @TheLoliczech ปีที่แล้ว +9

      idk it seems to me the classic guy is having much more fun doing something simple and entertaining rather than dodging 500 mechanics at the same time

    • @treeaboo
      @treeaboo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bacon-egg-cheese Heal or Tank instead of playing DPS, or play Feral (Vanilla, TBC, Wrath) or Enhancement (Wrath). Vanilla WoW Feral DPS is far more complicated and difficult to play optimally than even most of Retail's DPS specs, unfortunately you still wouldn't top the meters by doing so but that's not the real reason to play a complex spec.
      Wrath Feral and Ehn are just as complicated as Retail specs, harder than many of them still (though they did recently make feral a little less complicated).

  • @blerp6675
    @blerp6675 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    Those firedup pov's really hit different. His brain runs at like 8000% speed

    • @willbuchanan6476
      @willbuchanan6476 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Imfiredup is an actual superhuman

    • @deejkeithanmusic
      @deejkeithanmusic ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Firedup is the matrix.

    • @Foretelling
      @Foretelling ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Easily top 3 best PvE players of all time

  • @tomaszpaz5189
    @tomaszpaz5189 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    This guy keeps spamming frostbolts even when he's away from the keyboard, dancing in the middle of the room. What a skill. What a legend.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Absolute gamer legend

    • @NepalEnjoyer
      @NepalEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      plus if you notice in the bottom right corner's 'table he's the 3rd best damage dealer in the raid . Truly a fucking legend

  • @DreadlyKnight
    @DreadlyKnight ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Lets see a comparison of blood death knights playing a roller coaster game with their health bar while their healers freak out as the death knight spams heart and death strike 😂

    • @gandalf8216
      @gandalf8216 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good healers knows how fast the blood dk tank finishes a rotation.

    • @vitorodino8760
      @vitorodino8760 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@gandalf8216 ultra gay

    • @thisguyhd6591
      @thisguyhd6591 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vitorodino8760 but you like it

    • @brettosowiecki8759
      @brettosowiecki8759 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vitorodino8760 I thought your gen hated that word

    • @becjed1701
      @becjed1701 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Had healers freak at bdks hp being spikey, decent healers understand that's normal, and hp isn't the issue, range and runic power is

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Behold! The era where the panicle of caster gameplay was standing still and hitting one or two buttons (any Classic and TBC caster) vs now where you are running around like a fighter jet (Evoker)

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha i recently tried retail again, and i was playing evoker a bit, and that’s exactly how i felt 😂

    • @michaookami4113
      @michaookami4113 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same
      Me as Lock 0.1 sec After cast Start
      Void under me
      Every time

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Evoker: "IMA FIRIN MAH LAZOR"

    • @maxpowers4436
      @maxpowers4436 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You dont need to compare classic mage to evoker just compare mage to intself

    • @lucasbayout195
      @lucasbayout195 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaha evoker healing is a bliss

  • @sevenw1nters57
    @sevenw1nters57 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I asked you to do a raiding comparison on your last video and you did not disappoint. Thank you lol.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I read every comment. I appreciate the feedback and suggestions always, keep them coming!

  • @andulasis6283
    @andulasis6283 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Man did you see how close that frostbolt cast was? Insane classic plays right there!

  • @SoraRikuKingdomheart
    @SoraRikuKingdomheart ปีที่แล้ว +88

    The end got me dead when he stood up and started dancing.

    • @brandoncastellano1858
      @brandoncastellano1858 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought they were the same person until that moment.

  • @laszlogulyas6422
    @laszlogulyas6422 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Having fun versus having a second job.

  • @WhatIfTheories
    @WhatIfTheories หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Retail is such an unenjoyable product. It's not playable anymore.

  • @superbnns
    @superbnns ปีที่แล้ว +67

    "Vanilla was so hard you kids don't even know with this baby game"

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +29

      👴 “back in my day!!!!”

    • @whitecow13
      @whitecow13 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The leveling and overall convenience in Vanilla is definitely harder than retail. Retail is in general more casual friendly than Vanilla, so that's why people said that sentence. But comparing today's mechanics with a game that's almost 20 years older is just for the memes. Ridicule the veteran Vanilla wow players without knowing what you talk about is just lame. You will be surprised how many gems you will find in the retro gaming era because it's from a time were money and greed was less involved than in today's 'modern gaming'. Goodluck :)

    • @jointser1008
      @jointser1008 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@whitecow13 I played tbc and wotlk and now classic era and leveling is the only part which is actually harder than retail. I can also give you advice for gaming: "be always open for new stuff you might get a surprise"

    • @whitecow13
      @whitecow13 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jointser1008 thans for the advice, but don't worry i play alot of modern games aswell. As for wow i just prefer the classic game because of the leveling experience is the part i enjoy the most in an mmorpg. All the adventures and new people i meet along the way is what makes the game memorable for me. But everyone can play the flavor what brings you the most joy. So no need to look down on one version :). Goodluck!

    • @xxxzzzzxxx
      @xxxzzzzxxx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WoW is a stupid ass game compared to any real competitive game like League, DOTA, CSGO or Valorant and it's funny that their own community says shit like Classic is worse or easier than retail WoW just because there you don't have to memorize 1000 mechanics instead of just playing a fucking PVE game

  • @johng2794
    @johng2794 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    looks like the classic guy has way more fun^^

  • @hansvdz5834
    @hansvdz5834 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Man, using imfiredup clips for this made it 20 times better. Man doesn't even sweat or blink when making those sick plays in retail.

  • @siegemakerYT
    @siegemakerYT ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for reminding me how amazing the Xy'mox and Jailer fights were

    • @Shyftus
      @Shyftus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Xymox mythic was pure perfection

  • @MixedBiscuits
    @MixedBiscuits ปีที่แล้ว +4

    max's face on firedups dodges of the balls kills me. lmfao.

  • @sweatystoner
    @sweatystoner ปีที่แล้ว +4

    idk what the original context is to this day but im so happy that dude was feelin himself that day that clip has provided so many funny videos lmao

  • @Montenegro651
    @Montenegro651 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This shit made me laugh so freaking hard. And not even that loudly but I felt it deep in my gamer heart. 💀😂

  • @Guelicious
    @Guelicious ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This meme never gets old. 🤣

  • @W0ndering50ul
    @W0ndering50ul ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Funny my friend who played since classic was literally the other day telling me that doing anything else other than frost bolt on a raid boss was a dps loss and I was laughing then this vid just showed up on my page and I was laughing so hard

  • @Secretsofsociety
    @Secretsofsociety 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Players back then liked that there was a big chatroom that was also a game. We didn't really care about being pro or any of that crap. Just hanging with friends.
    In TBC I mostly just hung around the gate by the pvp queue and dueled my friends. We were all poverty level geared because we didn't really raid or run heroics much. It was so fun.

    • @user-oq5fc3xi8t
      @user-oq5fc3xi8t 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      "A big chatroom that was also a game" is the perfect way to describe how I saw the game. I miss it. :(

    • @vitorpereira5461
      @vitorpereira5461 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not only wow but most games. I played tibia in the same regard

  • @zufiras9111
    @zufiras9111 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Give me classic raids all day, i just wanna chill with the boys and have a good time

    • @carloatuati9985
      @carloatuati9985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you don’t wipe 500 times

    • @kaikideishuu536
      @kaikideishuu536 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They have their charm for sure.

    • @donjones4022
      @donjones4022 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      casual guilds who only do normal and heroic are exactly like that lol

    • @maxpowers4436
      @maxpowers4436 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Plenty of people chill in retail has nothing to donwith gameplay speed. Unless ur a braindead boomer of cors

    • @powerplay074
      @powerplay074 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do lfr then

  • @BrennenL
    @BrennenL ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've mained a mage since 2010 - this is HILARIOUS!

  • @STARSHIPTROOP
    @STARSHIPTROOP ปีที่แล้ว +8

    more mechanics than a Firestone Tire Shop

  • @floodsye
    @floodsye ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The dancing part is actually very accurate funnily enough. Gnome Sequencer, the addon cheaters use to automate practically all gameplay actions, has over 6 million downloads now. It's on retail too, but crafting a macro sequence to accurately predict and execute a rotation with retail mechanics and rotations to be as good as an actual player playing well has not really been done too well yet. On Classic however, I've seen streamers with like a few dozen lines of macros in the thing and it maximizes DPS and HPS lmao. You can literally "play" while dancing.
    Gnone Sequencer players all claim to be fully disabled players with no way to play otherwise...but there's zero chance of that. It'd be mean every quadriplegic person in the world and more would be playing WoW. Thankfully, there's been rumors that blizzard is looking to fully remove the addon as they bring in a better, legal way for actually disabled to play (the adaptive controller support is one of these measures) that doesn't allow botting like GSE does.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve never heard of it by name, but i have heard people talk about an addon potentially being banned that helps disabled gamers. Like you said a lot of people that use more than likely are not disabled. Thanks for the info on it

  • @Daniel-kx3zz
    @Daniel-kx3zz 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Classic: move out of the fire.
    You didn't move? Move now!
    That's right, get a healing, don't worry.
    Retail: Oh no! That mage used the mechanic in 5.001 seconds instead of 5.002!! WIPE EVERYONE! GKICK MAGE!

  • @crounos
    @crounos ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i feel like i might acually fall asleep doing mage in classic

  • @arthas236
    @arthas236 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm in love with this video.

  • @StarShopping69
    @StarShopping69 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FiredUp is an absolute legend

  • @frostpyr0
    @frostpyr0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My song for Ragnaros was Deja Vu.
    The drop syncs perfectly with him becoming attackable if you start it when they talk to domromamamamamammru

  • @murrmurr765
    @murrmurr765 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how he continues casting when he is dancing!! Nostalgia!

  • @pabloreyez2229
    @pabloreyez2229 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lmao that classic clip so good

  • @X3M_00
    @X3M_00 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's funny how wow the boss mechanics became just several things for you to dodge while hitting or healing... whoever thought of the current mechanics was inspired by Cuphead?

  • @hellothere8812
    @hellothere8812 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The first retail boss fight was the perfect choice

  • @Meatcrob1
    @Meatcrob1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mage players when they have to do 1 mechanic.

    • @pwndatronic7212
      @pwndatronic7212 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbh, that Nathria boss was pretty complicated. Plus mage was dealing with the hardest seed.

  • @RaimaNd
    @RaimaNd ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well his dance moves are crisp I'd fail more likely at that.

  • @Jrock420blam
    @Jrock420blam ปีที่แล้ว +12

    game isn't so easy anymore. One boss having more mechanics than all the bosses in vanilla combined

    • @dabufy3683
      @dabufy3683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vanilla easy??? 😂😂😂😂

    • @Jrock420blam
      @Jrock420blam ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@dabufy3683 yeah, those classic raids are very very easy compared to raids that come after, very limited by mechanics. The hardest part of vanilla/classic is and was having the patience to grind through levels.

    • @aaronzNJD
      @aaronzNJD ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@dabufy3683 Yes absolutely lmao classic was a joke

    • @Uncle-Ruckus.
      @Uncle-Ruckus. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dabufy3683 its a joke compared to retail

    • @feo130
      @feo130 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dabufy3683 Very easy lol.

  • @Spectacular66
    @Spectacular66 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me of my time playing back in TBC retail and having music streaming on Ventrillo while we cleared Karazhan every week. Miss awesome raid nights like those.

  • @Korri1992
    @Korri1992 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "classic is harder" kekw.

  • @xpo2k9
    @xpo2k9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Vanilla is eternal.

  • @Kantlim
    @Kantlim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why everyone told me to play retail? Classic sound like much more fun

  • @iaxdy9822
    @iaxdy9822 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pretty accurate. Mythic raids I'm full try hard mode. Classic raids I got my feet on the desk chilling using 1 hand half the time to press attacks.

  • @colezohoh
    @colezohoh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lost it when he stood up

  • @gameplaymore5951
    @gameplaymore5951 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    take a guess who's having more fun 😂

  • @tftg458
    @tftg458 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OmG CLaSsIc WaS sO MuCh bETer ThAn ReTAiL!

    • @user-zg5ew2bm7l
      @user-zg5ew2bm7l ปีที่แล้ว +6

      harder =/= better. People don't play classic for the pve difficulty, but other elements that retail completely lacks

    • @skyamerico
      @skyamerico ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Classic was a true MMORPG, Retail is an Instance Arcade game. Yes for sure Retail mechanics are harder, but i still prefer the RPG aspects of classic. And don't forget, that on Vanilla we used to raid with 300ms, 7-15 fps, 4-8 disconnects each boss, no world buffs, no hit gear (i was top dps as hunter and never used a hit gear), no youtube videos, etc....

    • @tftg458
      @tftg458 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-zg5ew2bm7l enlighten me.

    • @tftg458
      @tftg458 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skyamerico wow has never had "real RPG" as much I also think wow would be a beter mmoRPG it is bad in both versions. If you can give me one decent reason why classic has beter RP sure but I don't believe it is. Have fun all you want in classic I myself played it too (the iteration now and the OG days) and had a blast but saying it is objectively beter than retail is just wrong sorry. If in your opinion classic is more fun enjoy man! I'm glad it is an option for you.

    • @Uncle-Ruckus.
      @Uncle-Ruckus. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-zg5ew2bm7l what elements? the dk bots in pve and pvp, the social interactions that are basicaly the same with a guild in retail, taking hours to get a lvl sounds like a huge waste of time

  • @malinko35
    @malinko35 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    when that kid got up to dance i started laughing so hard

  • @hitenmitsurugi489
    @hitenmitsurugi489 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    back in my day, the first person to stack scorch was the dps king as long as it stayed up. *waves wizard cane*

  • @Helreiser1
    @Helreiser1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    imfiredup is cracked man ... mad skills !

  • @Spidymc
    @Spidymc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He looks so happy!

  • @justsomeguywithagoatee8337
    @justsomeguywithagoatee8337 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just spec frost. Spam frostbolts until flurry glows, then use ice lance. Rinse and repeat.

  • @andreware2039
    @andreware2039 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man, just imagine classic arcane vs retail arcane.
    Now that would be a fucking roller coaster right there 😅

    • @brbbiobreak
      @brbbiobreak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      classic arcane didn't get invited to the raid

    • @k9tirion927
      @k9tirion927 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Vanilla arcane does not exist, arcane blast was introduced with tbc.
      Well okay you could press arcane missiles like 7x and go oom without doing any damage and call that arcane for vanilla i guess.

  • @xxFairestxx
    @xxFairestxx ปีที่แล้ว +21

    When you notice his hands are moving but in no way clicking frost bolt lol. And then he stands up lol I’m dead

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He is just that talented 😂

    • @xxFairestxx
      @xxFairestxx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ross_2312 haha

    • @michaookami4113
      @michaookami4113 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ross_2312
      Macro rota makes him

    • @treeaboo
      @treeaboo ปีที่แล้ว

      Had a friend in Vanilla Classic who literally had a macro to spam frostbolt for him when we'd do MC after BWL while we was making food.

  • @somsimsem
    @somsimsem ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn, that boss was one of the best ones ive fought in a long ass time.. The whole of Castle Nathria was amazing

  • @bigboyhooga2776
    @bigboyhooga2776 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is exactly how I feel after I got my PHD in arcane mage

  • @tigeryumyums9407
    @tigeryumyums9407 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is exactly why I say a Hardcore challenge on retail would be impossible if you included mythic raiding

    • @Thrall966
      @Thrall966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn’t impossible if it’s just first 3 bosses mythic 😂

    • @KevsShwaShwa
      @KevsShwaShwa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Considering some mechanics require sacrifices on mythic. Yeah. It’s impossible.

    • @krzysztofczajka6752
      @krzysztofczajka6752 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Raid wipes because a one person failed mechanics is a sick, toxic joke

    • @xplicitmike
      @xplicitmike 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mythic hardcore? Bro in retail it's a wipe if a single person dies on a mythic boss, need everyone playing perfectly the entire time. Damn now I lowkey want to try out Dragonflight and mythic raiding again 😂

  • @RestoGoliath
    @RestoGoliath ปีที่แล้ว +3

    and then u have these classic andy's saying "Ulduar is hard we can't kill Algalon"

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Started leveling a new char on wotlk during the exp bonus. The number of dungeon groups with absolutely awful players is scary lol. Literally had to teach a few dk tanks how to play their class because i was ooming every pull as healer, these tanks were pulling huge and literally doing 0 healing with death strike 😂 . Im like make sure you apply your diseases or it won’t heal, one didn’t even know what diseases were lol. After explaining hes like lol didnt feel like reading 3 paragraphs im lazy. Queues as tank 😂

    • @icebox1954
      @icebox1954 ปีที่แล้ว

      Algalon is pretty difficult if your teammates are drooling morons. I think the only really fun mechanical fight in Ulduar is Mimiron Hardmode because that's all about positioning and space management. I still haven't killed Algalon but will this coming week. I was with a bad guild that only recently got it down.

    • @danielandersson3067
      @danielandersson3067 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Algalon was not hard because of mechanics, it's just that he hits like a fucking truck and 1 bad star can wipe you.

    • @123Suffering456
      @123Suffering456 ปีที่แล้ว

      I play in a guild with a lot of bad players and you would be surprised how hard the content can feel when people manage to kill themselves almost every single pull in some stupid way. The amount of times we are out of brezes after Mimi p1 because some people like to play minesweeper is actually astonishing. And we can't even do Algalon because our dps is mathematically too low to beat him before enrage. So I guess there's still plenty of people who find the content pretty challenging. Though that says more about them than the content.

  • @Kavou
    @Kavou 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can clearly see who is having fun here.

  • @jeremyhead7368
    @jeremyhead7368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Estaup tho that sick jukes makes us all look normal

  • @Tyranny.
    @Tyranny. 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    And that is the problem with retail wow. A game where you must download curse client and download 30 addons on top! That is incongruous…. And then you have Classic wow, simplicity at its finest! We want classic plus now!

  • @sebastionmiller1432
    @sebastionmiller1432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny video. Accurate and factual. 10/10

  • @sneekyshot1
    @sneekyshot1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    man was feelin it

  • @oddthemute6172
    @oddthemute6172 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Too real. Makes me want to raid as my mage again in retail, though lmao.

    • @davidsantiago7808
      @davidsantiago7808 ปีที่แล้ว

      this makes me want to raid as a mage in classic, retail sucks

    • @generaljouf
      @generaljouf ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@davidsantiago7808 He wasn't even saying he dislikes classic, most likely his comment means he finds the content in retail more engaging.
      Yet your boomer brain immediately goes ''RETAIL BAD, NOSTALGIA GOOD'' in an objectively garbage 20 year old mmo walking simulator with poor quality of life updates.
      You're getting farmed by Blizzard for 2 decades now and you still don't realise it, get a grip.

    • @oddthemute6172
      @oddthemute6172 ปีที่แล้ว

      @davidsantiago7808 Castle Nathria and the two Dragonflight raids (so far) are objectively good. You're kinda fried, mate. I also spent about 55 days /played on my vanilla classic warrior at lvl 60. The only good vanilla raid is BWL. Classic has a lot of merit, but retail raids, especially so far in Dragonflight, are more fun.

    • @davidsantiago7808
      @davidsantiago7808 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@generaljouf I'm 21 and I just started playing wow a year ago. I started with retail and switched to classic and I'm having infinitely more fun. In retail if you're a noob you get flamed by other players in m+ dungeons. On top of that anything you want to work towards can be bought with real money. Mount? Buy it. Gear? Buy it. Enchants? Buy it. Max level character? Buy it. The only thing you can't really buy is ahead of the curve, but even that can be bought if you know the right guild. It made my entire experience sour and it felt hollow to achieve anything.
      I switched to classic vanilla and my experience was way better. The community is great, everyone is friendly. There's plenty of both factions running around in contested areas so I can pvp in the open world while leveling. There's no wow token so even though rmt does exist most of the goals and achievements in the game are at least somewhat worth something. To me it isn't about the skill or technicality of the game, it's about if the game is good. And quite frankly retail sucks.

    • @nightshock5775
      @nightshock5775 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@generaljouf Most sane sweaty retail player

  • @basf7620
    @basf7620 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    classic is hard guys trust me

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you said it, it must be true

  • @wmv8996
    @wmv8996 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dudes breathing like he's pulling G's in a fighter jet.

  • @Coolstory4o
    @Coolstory4o 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's actually mindblowing how hardstuck some people are, i mean...there are actually npcs that were/still screaming how classic is all serious and hard xD

  • @LewReviews
    @LewReviews ปีที่แล้ว +7

    But who looks to be having the most fun

  • @Kingkhalled
    @Kingkhalled ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Sometimes just pressing 1 and vibing out with the boys on disc is the mood, that's what classic is good for

    • @ogFaTaL
      @ogFaTaL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Its ok some people's brains can't handle multiple buttons and mechanics at the same time 😂

    • @burnttoast26
      @burnttoast26 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ogFaTaL"If you're not a tryhard you're dumb"
      And you guys wonder why classic is more popular

    • @hvjsy
      @hvjsy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's literally not though lmao, retail has probably 3x the players classic/wotlk do regardless of what you guys think@@burnttoast26

    • @shamba4406
      @shamba4406 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@burnttoast26it’s not. Classic is full of bots and mostly dead. 😂

    • @burnttoast26
      @burnttoast26 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shamba4406 So is retail

  • @puppylord5459
    @puppylord5459 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i like the classic one more guy looks like he is having fun in a video game

  • @DrewS1890
    @DrewS1890 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That’s right, things did indeed get harder and more challenging. Haha.
    Boss fights are just puzzles that requiere solving as a group.
    It’s not bad, it if you want to do Mythic it can be intimidating. Especially if you can’t find a group that has the same mindset as you.

  • @saschasmith3635
    @saschasmith3635 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love classic and retail but any classic player that says that classic is harder is on CRACK😂!!

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some people actually think that, and haven’t tried retail in years. I do think a lot of the classic/wrath community don’t necessarily care about doing challenging content though, and some just create the illusion they are 😂

    • @Kristers_K
      @Kristers_K ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Classic was and is easy, but that's precisely the point. It makes for a chill and fun game. In retail you have to run for your life every 5-10 seconds, it's no longer a game, it's like a very intensive job.

    • @Shorado
      @Shorado ปีที่แล้ว +1

      classic is for the mentally aged players who cant react to swirlies on the floor anymore. No disrespect but their dedicated bullshitting to try to make classic look like challenge compared to retail is sad and pathetic.

  • @icecreamman2687
    @icecreamman2687 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    and ranged dps is the easiest role by a mile

    • @k9tirion927
      @k9tirion927 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depends on the boss, quite often ranged players get to do more mechanics and greeding for casts is more interesting than melee uptime.
      I switched from warrior to mage in Legion because melee uptime gameplay felt too binary to me

  • @Zesmas
    @Zesmas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    man he must be spamming that Frost bolt Very hard.

  • @jamesellison5731
    @jamesellison5731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro has frostbolt at 2.5 seconds cast speed

  • @fohhee
    @fohhee ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a Mage since vanilla, I can confirm this is true.

  • @Seabiskit
    @Seabiskit ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my gray parsing ass in retail vs my 99's in classic. Can't even compare the games they are so different lmao.

    • @nevr9281
      @nevr9281 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do people actually log classic raids? 💀

    • @Seabiskit
      @Seabiskit ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @nevr idk I think the only fun part of classic raids is the competition of logs. It's a snoozefest without it.

  • @josedavidmunozmartinez4722
    @josedavidmunozmartinez4722 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This applies to all classes in general lol

  • @DevelonLP
    @DevelonLP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this meme
    I do like raiding in both expansion i always do full heroic clears and do some mythic bosses and i still very much enjoy classic raiding in many cases i do enjoy it even more. Its way different though and it gets too much compared with retail.

  • @Treshar
    @Treshar ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I went back to retail recently after break for many years and can confirm, this is how retail is now. I felt like i was playing some sort of platformer, jump here dodge there move out move in spread out group up.

    • @Treshar
      @Treshar ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@dennisdubose2444 No, that is not what I said, but I can see English is not your first language so I understand your confusion and poor spelling and grammar.

    • @hyvea3001
      @hyvea3001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Treshar Keep playing classic my dude :)

    • @Treshar
      @Treshar ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hyvea3001 I have zero interest in a game I played to death 15 years ago, so I don't play classic.

    • @Treshar
      @Treshar ปีที่แล้ว +22

      People seem to be misunderstanding my OP. I had no trouble playing retail for the month or so I went back recently. My issue is that the core gameplay loop is not enjoyable. If I wanted to run around in circles like a nutcase there are games that do that far better and don't require a monthly sub.

    • @KC-py5vq
      @KC-py5vq ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Treshar sounds like a skill issue tbh

  • @Hiebly
    @Hiebly ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Honestly. I would love if we could have something in the middle where I have to pay attention to a couple key mechanics and have a few buttons in the rotation but dont feel like I need to take a PhD to understand a boss before going at it (with addons installed to cover my screen with instructions). But it's nice for raids to just be chill, don't fuck up the 1-2 mechanics, and feel the progress from the gear you've got for your characters. Being hyperfocused with every piece of content, managing a half dozen different mechanics and constantly weaving between dodging and soaking every 6 seconds (and keeping track of who's turn it is to soak), only for the progress to boil down to "item level go up" (without actually really being able to feel it because of how obfuscated your damage is behind procs rather than baseline ability damage)... its just a little exhausting honestly

    • @CloudianMH
      @CloudianMH 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just play ret pala

    • @BigMuskachini
      @BigMuskachini 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah its called TBC/Wotlk. just play buffed tbc private server

    • @user-oq5fc3xi8t
      @user-oq5fc3xi8t 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What about normal raids?

    • @torum6448
      @torum6448 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BigMuskachini Are there any decent TBC pservers? The only one with a sizeable population that i know is stormforge netherwing, and well... let's just say they might as well replace the Orgrimmar music with ching cheng hanji considering how many chinese bots they've got on that server.
      I am only asking because TBC is also my favorite, and the only big private servers out there are Vanilla and WOTLK, and tbh i prefer TBC over either of those.

  • @xalzaixd9570
    @xalzaixd9570 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know it's been months... but man playing arcane these days (in dragonflight) is an actual endurance test

  • @toddsmith1969
    @toddsmith1969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Him sweating sent me 😂

  • @Accelerate55
    @Accelerate55 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    100% accurate - the classic player is happy and actually having fun.

  • @rackodakoo
    @rackodakoo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    seems like the classic player is having more fun

  • @bongtombadil8497
    @bongtombadil8497 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Jailer Rune of Power tho xD

  • @SKiPER210397
    @SKiPER210397 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's amazing, i'm crying)

  • @Pumkin932
    @Pumkin932 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The story of why I finally got burnt out of mage after maining one for almost two decades. Too annoying and stressful to play now.

  • @SuperRederic
    @SuperRederic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like classic raiding more since the gear feels more important, the raids are more enjoyable with less convaluded mechanic

  • @roboticus9518
    @roboticus9518 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's that addon that replaces player portrait with class icon?

  • @VaranVids
    @VaranVids 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    100% I love playing Classic and just chilling with some music😂

  • @danielkarlsson397
    @danielkarlsson397 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This is so true. Yet people be like "Classic is much harder" They have no CLUE!!!!! I played Resto druid in Naxx but got BORED cause you litteraly stand there waiting for stuff to do between heals instead of weaving. tsk tsk

    • @geissler91
      @geissler91 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      i think the primary difference is some people think "the game" is endgame raiding, whereas others think it's the leveling process + general endgame, or some other slice. if you don't first agree on a definition then you'll never agree on the terms.
      Leveling in classic is infinitely more difficult than in retail, for instance. Earning gold- same thing. Achieving various character milestones such as high level/professions/items/mounts all more difficult or time-consuming as well. Comparing specifically the high-end raiding mechanics in a game's earliest years with its latest and then drawing a wider conclusion simply doesn't work.

    • @danielkarlsson397
      @danielkarlsson397 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@geissler91 you hit the nail about classic. Time consuming. In Retail you can fly to China in 10mins. In Classic you have to fight through murlocs for 3 days to get to same place. Then your friend logs in and you cant play together cause then guess what. 3 more days of Murlocs 🤣

    • @SHITSWEEEK
      @SHITSWEEEK ปีที่แล้ว

      literally no one says classic is harder lmao
      better game? absolutely. but not harder. retail raiding is autistic as fuck

    • @Altobrun
      @Altobrun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@geissler91 re-professions, I disagree. I was BS/Eng in classic and tbc, and Eng/JC in wrath. Professions in classic have always just been money pit - it isn't difficult or particularly time consuming.

    • @erifwodahs5298
      @erifwodahs5298 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@geissler91 Because leveling is not really a thing anymore. Classic leveling is tedious, not hard - you literally do fuck all for half time because you sit and drink. Also mounts are much harder in retail, that doesn't even compare. Time consumption =/= difficulty. It's a time waste. Professions hard in classic? You mean just throw gold at it as you can do in retail?

  • @anthonyduncan8676
    @anthonyduncan8676 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yea buts who's having more fun 😂. Love the video.

    • @Bartooc
      @Bartooc ปีที่แล้ว

      Beating raid tier world first is pretty fun.

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat ปีที่แล้ว

      Sweating with other sweat lords or bing chilling with the bros.

  • @aztex6981
    @aztex6981 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We had more time to be social during vanilla raids.

  • @giuseppe7695
    @giuseppe7695 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's why i always loved Fire Mage since i started playing WoW more than 12 years ago

  • @ratba8366
    @ratba8366 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    More mechanics means more fun guys!

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From what I’ve heard of people playing new expansion, they actually have toned down the number of mechanics, because end of shadowlands (the raids in this vids) it was just so over the top. Even the world first best guilds thought it was too much

    • @Zippism
      @Zippism ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ross_2312 The new raid in retail is easier than anything in shadowlands, which is a good thing.

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zippism i did the first raid on lfr (lol) i hadnt played since like first month of DF and it was cool to see the encounters. Haven’t played much since, but was a nice change of pace from hc classic.

  • @DimeszTV
    @DimeszTV ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Retail dungeons are harder than classic raids lmao

    • @Ross_2312
      @Ross_2312  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The hard part about classic raids was 40 people clicking their spells with 10 fps 😂

  • @DwasTV
    @DwasTV 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Retail being any range is automatically signing up to dealing with more mechanics than any range.