NEW Shimano Dura-Ace & Ultegra Wheelsets | Lighter, Faster, Stiffer, More Aero!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ย. 2021
- Shimano road bike wheels are used throughout cycling, from team INEOS to entry-level bikes, most of us have seen or used a Shimano wheel set at some point in our cycling lives. With the launch of the new Dura-Ace R9200 and Ultegra R8100 groupsets comes a brand new range of top notch wheels! With three rim depths to choose from: C36, C50 and C60, the new-look Dura-Ace and Ultegra wheels are not only bling, but offer a range of choices for different types of riding and some big changes in Shimano’s freehub tech.
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What do you think of the new wheels? Do you prefer the new or the old Shimano wheel graphics? Let us know in the comments 👇
the old ones were better
I like the subtle ones!
Direct engagement hubs rock. I ride onxy hubs with direct engagement. These hubs are better for my knees with no slip or slop from the outdated pawl hubs. The sound from pawl hubs are friction of the little clutches rubbing then the slip is the gap of engagement. Glad to hear shimano is offering the new tech hubs.
Look nice. Wish they were rim brake but I get it from their perspective.
I think they so nice and I want them, but this is way more I can spend on them.
With massive braking powers of disc brakes, it’s natural Shimano increases the stiffness of their top racing wheels. Really smart engineering.
“… brilliant for police chases, in my imagination” 😂😂😂
Shimano could do with sponsoring NYPD's bike squads then
Very true... Japanese police rides bikes!
that made me LOL at coffee shop ya sad Shimano went with larger depths in Hawaii deep section wheels are useless and dangerous
finding a review in 2022 for these wheels are near impossible and does not exist.
I'd like to see a new video on these wheels with a comparison against others within the same price range.
Exactly! I had a shop offer me a set for about $1000 and I need to know more
This comparison test suggests that the c50 wheels are quite a bit slower than most rivals-- 10 seconds per 10 minutes of riding. I have them and they seem fast, but I'd be interested in seeing a David Arthur review / comparison over a longer distance! th-cam.com/video/K2rjn_4ov60/w-d-xo.html
Beautiful! Love the new smaller logos.
Gotta love the subtle bragging from Ollie! Commenting on the wheel performance for track stands :)
The subtle graphics are definitely better in my eyes!
Great cornering skills right there
I look forward to riding these in about 4 months when I get my new Pinarello F, but in the meanwhile they look great.
Look fantastic both Ultegra and the more expensive ones which i can't afford.. be interested to know how long the pro peloton have been using the sets?
I really like the new wheels. I probably would go with the 60mm. I like the clutch mechanism, I like the performance upgrades, aerodynamic engineering, what is there not to Love about these wheels. I even like the subdued look of the graphics, would go well with my Black Themed bicycle. Thanks for sharing GNC.
Great video, in your opinion, are the dura aces better than the dt swiss erc?
What's the rim braked wheels hubs like? Are they specific new engagement QR hubs or are they using the same hubs as the disc with the thru axle adapted for QR's?
Can’t wait to get my hands on a pair of C60s. Incredibly good looking wheels. Cheers Ollie 🍻
Great Video. How do you compare to Princeton 4450. Thanks
I bought the ultegra c50 but have not tested them yet on the road. the sound dissapoints a little. only 18 clicks per 360 degree wheelspin. My mountainbike had 54 and i went for an upgrade to 108. Very responsive and the sound is amazing. Probably will not be possible on this hub?
A comparison to ENVE wheels would be appreciated.
Beautiful wheels
Lighter faster stiffer, more aero, 🤔 i have heard this somewhere before?
Do the Ultegra wheels come with an adapter to run 135mm qr in the rear?
Bless Shimano for staying with cup and cone bearings and external spoke nipples
Ha. I've been a mechanic for 15 years. Shimano spokes are hardly ever in stock and always unique to the wheel. It's a roll of the dice but strap like a month off those wheels if you pop a spoke.
We need some help with the Shimano Ultegra C60 as well. They are so different. The hub is different as well. Thank you for the great work.
What will the price be for the ultegra and the dura ace wheels?
今回のシマノホイールは、コスパも含めてメチャ良さそう。特にハブの改造は、是非乗って実感してみたい。
Between 4:33 and 5:13 the only GCN presenter capable of doing a track stand 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Why are you using the turd emoji?
@@happydays8171 I'm from the Caribbean so you'll have to enlighten me as to what a "turd" is so I can respond to you appropriately.
@@eliteharrington7377
Oh, okay. Your emoji on my phone looks like the human faeces, poop, crap, sh!t, doodoo, dung, excrement, ordure, droppings, even diarrhea emoji.
That help?
@@happydays8171 it’s a pair of hands clapping
Prob best part new Shimano Ultra/DA groupsets
It will be upgrade into ceramic bearings??
How do these compare to the Bontreager Aeolus wheels?
Nice. What about the warranty on those wheels ? Some brands have a lifetime "break" warranty.
Will Dura Ace c40
Rim clincher wheels (9100) work on Dura Ace 9
Speed?
Ollie there is no clincher? I like better rolling resistance
I'm waiting for the new 105's. When will they arrive?
Do these wheels come with bearings or loose balls? Does Shimano already produce wheels with bearings?
My 11 speed ultegra is fantastic.
A Very Good Quality Product
YEEEES Just checked the availability of the wheels on the shimano website: If we preorder now, we`re gonna roll out on them in already 30 weeks, thats about the 1.April 2022. And then we only have to wait further 9 weeeks to get the 12s cassetes. Season 2022 is saved :D :D
Lol..that's so ridiculous. Shimano making us work on our patience skills
Lol at how you didn't mention the depth of the C50s at 0:40. What a debacle.
Cries in my low end team vision wheelset
Wish they brought back the C75 wheels...
They look remarkably like the rims available from farsports, Yoleo and Light Bicycle for probably 1/3 of the price.
1/3???? A bit more 😅
You’re getting the far superior hubs and build consistency of the wheel quality for that price. I’ve got an older pair of DuraAce c50 wheels and they have at least 20k miles on them and never have even been out of true or needed hub maintenance, and I’m over 200lbs to boot.
If I was getting wheels for a commuter or my sons bike, or if I were a short lightweight rider, I would definitely get some Chinese wheels.
exactly that is what I was thinking. the old version looked so nice and unique. You can get 2 pairs of Farsports Feder with RD230 hubs weighing 30% less for set one one. I m sure someone going to dissect these new Shimano wheels and state its the same stuff as you can get from Farsports and other good China brands over the last few years.
@@Thomas-fy9yc Yoleo and LB have very high build consistency also. And you have your choice of hubs like Chris King, DT swiss, carbon-ti etc.
My Farsports 50mm carbon rim brake wheels were £750 delivered. That includes DT 240’s, Sapim CX-Ray spokes and brass nipples.
love my Shimano dura ace wheels although I can't upgrade since id need to fork out an additional $4k for 9200 di2 so I can't do it 😪
Can we swap the freehub to 11 speed type to accommodate 11 speed cassette.
The play in the freehub actually helps me generate initial momentum on my first pedal stroke which greatly helps when i have to restart on a climb, letting my foot accelerate a bit downwards before the freehub bites. This generates additional initial torque, just like in car drag racing where you rev your motor first before you let go of the clutch which helps launch the car forward.
For me it is totally the opposite: it is like pedaling 20 degrees (18-tooth ratchet) for nothing, and when the hub engages, you hear that “clunck” sound. Horrible. That is with a 105 ratchet. In my other bike, fulcrum with 32 teeth, the experience is much much smoother, but still not perfect.
For me - I like to get out of the saddle and sprint a lot. So the bike instantly or almost instantly responding to me when i decide to open the taps is a must. I dont have the patience to deal with turbo lag.
Still not sure what makes the freehub different from the dt swiss ones :o
exactly, such a sloppy explanation
Is that better than roval wheelset pls answer
Could you swap an XTR freehub body to use an XTR cassette with these?
I dont ride road but it's an interesting question. Both use Direct Engagement freehubs.
Probably, if they dont put a propietary freehub engagement on the hub ...
if there possible wheelset shimano with sram grupset?? hehe
Is Si the Boss of GCN? Hence the "first dibs" statement.
LOVE LOVE LOVE The ULTEGRA Decals! More subtle and classy =) I hope I will also love the price =P
1,5K euros from what i've heard
Just get the Winspace wheels.
@@hermanmcpootis5425
No kidding.
Find a youtuber whom they sponsor, use their code, and get 10% off. That's a pair of great set of rims for 900 usd.
@@hermanmcpootis5425 maybe Hunt over Winspace eh?
@@Ridewithjst I'm pretty sure Hunts are rebranded chinesium.
Beautyful wheels. Me wants, taking out second mortage
Beautiful
That’s open bearings right there. With DT240s you get closed bearings all across. In wet conditions those open bearings will surely take a hit.
BS, they are sealed
Yeah I've been a mechanic for 15 years. You don't open durace hubs to service them. There's no point. You'll only find clean grease inside. Unless you doing 45000 km per year. Which only maybe five hundred people on earth are doing.
"In wet conditions those open bearings will surely take a hit" AHAHAHA What a dill !
LOL, you tell good stories of fiction. Those Shim bearings will pretty much last as long if not longer than anything on the market wet or dry. And the new DT designs are a step backward, not forward.
I’ll take Shimano or Campy hubs over DT Swiss 7 days a week! 😆😆😆
Why cup and cone instead of sealed bearings? Understand not likely to get dirt in but how does that not cause issues with the hub being worn out by the bearings like old cup and cone designs?
Cup and cone bearings are actually superior in nearly every way. If you keep up with maintenance they'll last forever. Sealed bearings have the advantage of being able to replaced by the second owner of the wheels after the first owner trashes them.
Also from a subjective point of view nice cup and cone wheels always feel faster to me.
LOVE HUGE LOGOS
As far as advertisements go this is quite good.
The thing is Shimano Security are still pursuing a lad with a red back pack and reverse GCN cap who made off from their Eurobike stand last week. (couldn't help noticing the background attention to you from the Shimano staff, thought for a moment someone was going to come over and ask if you needed any help, which is security code for 'Get Out!')
I am a fan of rim brakes yet I do embrace tubeless tyres, I may be wrong but I heard somewhere that if you want Tubeless with the new wheels you have to go to disc brakes. For how I ride etc, I do not need or want any of the supposed advantages of disc brakes. So I may have to look to other brands for my next pair of deep section wheels.
They are forcing everyone to go disk not sure if there any new road bikes with rim brakes they all lock like disk now. I’m the last in in my group with 2018 with rim so going to disk on new bike this year
As always Shimano playing catch up to Campagnolo ;)
I imagine the average person would have to re-mortgage their house to buy a set.
I'm happy with my $400 Superteam carbon wheels.
Who cares? 😆😆
Great editing, but can you please make the cinematic music during B-roll quieter? It is very loud compared to the rest of the video, meaning I turn up my volume to hear the dialogue, and then get blasted with the B-roll music.
Do the wheels come taped for tubeless direct from Shimano?
Yes they do. I just picked up my new Pinarello Prince with the new Ultegra group and Dura Ace C60 wheels. Had the wheels set up tubeless with Pirelli P Zero tubeless tires. No extra tape required.
No wheels for caliper brakes because they are old fashioned but hey we will retain cup and cone bearings.... :-)
The difference being that a better solution has been created for braking. Cup and cone remains the best option for racing wheels due to lower resistance. Cup and Cone also allow pro mechanics to maintain them before every race. Sealed bearings are a cost cutting measure for hub manufacturers who don't have Shimano's expertise. They are also easier for amateur mechanics to replace. Dura Ace and Ultegra are not aimed at that market.
they provide the dura-ace tubular (1:35) which may as well be obsolete anyway.
@@lustyd Pretty sure that cup and cone have more rolling resistance.
@@Jkl158 No sealed have more resistance due to the casing. They also don't (easily) allow you to use different grease for a race compared to training like cup and cone does. All of this well known to racing teams the world over, it's amateur mechanics who sing the praises of sealed bearings, usually because they don't know how to adjust a proper hub!
Had the previous version Ultegra C50 and Dura ace C50. Their slow hub engagement (clunk) everytime I pedal was a turn off for me. Fat spokes made noise in the wind. Nice looking wheels and that was all I thought of them. Hope the new hubs have better engagement.
Nice, so where is my free set to test??
Need a C80, and why not C120 while we're at it. Disc wheel as well
No sealed Palin.. Not gonna want them. Last time I swapped my disc with centerlock on 4050 shimano hub..... I found the inner drive lock on from the factory.. Meaning I had to pull the axle to get the rotor off.. And that wheels been a dick to me since despite putting the right Centerlock on cleaning and repacking.. So my deep section wheel is going to Winter duty and My DT SWISS front is going on my Commuter bike.
I run a 120 click triple clicker 5 Palin rear as well.. Didn't like the DT Swiss rear hub.
I prefer the ultegra because I can't afford it, I just prefer, works well with my dreams.
looks insane and cost insane :)
Anyone put 28mm or 30mm tires on these wheels? How do they fit, do they keep with the aero profile with the 28mm or 30mm tires?
I've switched between Conti GP5000 TL 28mm, and Good Year Eagle F1 28mm, and PZero TLR 28mm and they're spot on flush, on the C50's. The wheels feel great and not as harsh as perceived from the commentary.
Whats the max weight for the rider?
I run a pair of Shimano 600 wheels on my Trek 5200.
The silver lining is that the future 105/GRX 12speed group sets will finally be able to replace the 3x systems in the touring/adventure/tandem bikes.
A combination of a 50-34 crankset with a 11-34 cassette (or even a 48-31/11-30 pair) will have both the range and a plenty of single-tooth jumps.
A dynamo in such applications could also charge all the Di2 mechatronics.
They dont look like shimano wheels that we are used to.
They are still heavier than my 2014 C24 which have the disc rotor built into the rim for more aero and weight savings.
I thought you meant the brake rotor was embedded into the hub, not that it was a rim brake wheel lmao
It's a shame you didnt want to take the hub apart (because you were told not to) to show us the direct engagement. Sometimes its the lack of details like this that reduces some the GCN videos to simple advertorials
They should really do a giveaway with them sometimes.
Watching the Tour of Britain on GCN+ but no commentary. ???
Perfect
I wish I can have the Ultegra pair😥
Is it compatible with XDR cassettes?
Nope
So for the heavier cyclest the stiffer the wheel the better. Would that be right
The stiffer the wheel the better. All riders would benefit from stiffness.
More spokes is better for a greater weight capacity. That’s what touring bikes have.
guys, i like your channel a lot. I also understand that you need to make a living with the advertisement. but its quite difficult to find an actual real review on your channel and the credibility is getting lower and lower. ever product you review is always amazing and on the forums you find the actual problems and negative points of the products. please consider this, because i beleive that credibility is quite important on a channel llike this.
Why are there no new C24 ??!
They look good. I hope they don‘t mess it up with licenses for the new freehub body like they did with MicroSpline on the MTB. Did I spot a traditional stem and handlebars cockpit on Ollie‘s Pinarello? Why is that? Aero gains wasted!
Shimano sponsored the video and their subsidary brand, "PRO", which was the cockpit Ollie was using in this video.
@@matt-10229 I thought that PRO has integrated carbon cockpits in their lineup so I don‘t understand why the didn‘t go for the top of the range but I might be wrong on that.
@@chrisridesbicycles You're right they do have Vibe aero bars but from the video Ollie is using the 2 piece vibe cockpit with the stem design that is instantly recognisable as the PRO vibe stem. It could also be it was the only thing Madison (the UK Shimano distributer could easily and quickly get out to GCN) or it could just be that it was the best cost effective way to do more product placement. Who knows but those who made the decisions? We could guess all day long.
In defense of the PRO Vibe alloy bars, they're incredible and I miss them from when I went integrated.
MORE 50 YEARS OF CUP AND CONE AGAIN!
no way, bring the NTN or SKF Angular Bearings NOW!!
All hail Jora Ace
is there a weight limit to the ultegra c50s?
I have used them when I was around 120kgs and never had a problem. It is really a good wheelset especially for heavier riders. It is hooked and pressure limit is 109psi so you can pump it up enough for 100+ kgs with 25" tires.
Me waiting for this tech to trickle down in about 10 years lol
I like that… I like that a lot 😂🤣😂🤣
How significant aero we could have on this day?
What they don't tell you is lower Ultegra hub doesn't have that "instantanious" ratchet engagement. But a 18T system which, if you have tried 36/54T systems feels rubish
i used to love gcn and its presenters, but now it is sounding more and more like a marketing/advertising company
Because that's what it is and what its always been. Says in part, paid promotion which pays for the excellent content.
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@Keith Heinrich yep..always been..you're right
Of course they are more commercial! Rely on people like you never sponsor anything how would they survive?
There’s no stock of anything. Prices have gone up by 100s. The situation has first timers considering 2/3000£ bikes that should actually be their 2nd/3rd bikes. Like they’ve got the game on lock!
Can confirm, bought my first bike for $3400CAD cuz there was literally nothing else my size
@@ProWeAreSo i paid 3000CAD, 5 months later, still waiting for it
Bike industry is profiting from the Covid pandemic. Opportunistic.
Yeah that’s another thing now, waiting for months after purchasing at extortionate prices!
@@charliedillon1400 Where is the people’s bicycle cooperative, manufacturing and selling at non-profit rates, ensuring we all ride dura ace quality at sora pricing?
Need some rim brake gravel rims 700c any recommendations?
ENVE
If you want something tough, I really like the Velocity Cliffhanger rims. And they are tubeless compatible
@@Likelybiking Okies thank you for your recommendation Drew👍🏼😊
@@juliomaya100 Thanks👍🏼
I still prefer the glossy finish from the previous one
The comments about the cup and come bearings is stupid. They have superior rolling Resistence to sealed. Just use a decent hydropgobic grease and adjust them every 2,000kms.
No RRPs ? :(
new decals are much better
They look so good ollie can you pls send me the c50 to me here in Perth wa suburb of Kinross that would put a smile on my wheel, cheers mate 👍🇦🇺
Alex .Lencioni .
Shimano pricing them selves out the market ?