I notice you've given him a free pass over allegations around his close relationship with Epstein. Surely, he needs to account for that given his role.
Peter Mandelson recently said that "the UK should move past the idea of a "special relationship" with the United States". I have been saying this for decades. The "Special Relationship" is one way and only ever existed in the mind of successive UK governments, fawning over something that didn't exist and in the hope that we could retain greatness by standing on the coat tails of the country with the biggest sticks and stones. It's high time that the UK started to have more respect for itself. Mandelson has had an extensive political career and as such has been part and parcel of getting the UK to the all time low it finds itself in today.
Ah, Mandelson. Boring anecdote alert. Had a meeting with him in his office, in Parliament. Early 2000’s? Me and a few other teacher trade unionists. A few minutes into the meeting, someone more interesting than us walked past his open door. Mid sentence, he jumped up and off he went never to return. We saw ourselves out. I’m sure he won’t have slept, since. Sums the fella up.
Always fascinating to listen to Mandy. Such a strategist and also a pragmatist. Assesses not where he might wish we were but where we actually are. Refreshing.
True socialist with a 5 million house. A man of the people. Plus his EU pension and payoff. When he reaches the age of 65, Mr Mandelson will receive a gold-plated pension, starting at £31,000 and then rising in line with the cost of living. Plus mp pension. Nice work if you can get it.
I really appreciate the thoughtful discussion on higher education and the culture wars, especially in the context of how Labour should engage with the new American administration. Great insights all around, really makes you think about the future!
Never like the man but an excellent interview, refreshing to have someone who beautifully string words and ideas together. However I think he only actually answered one question lol clever.
Personal (and undoubtedly influenced) views aside, the Dark Lord remains intellectually at the top of his game. He is equally transactional, has x-ray insight, and as awful as it seems is a perfect candidate to be US ambassador. An incredibly interesting individual. Better to have him on side I’m sure.
Unless the coverage I saw was unrepresentative, the Harris campaign did not focus on identity politics; and Mandelson suggested the focus was on a single issue of abortion rights. That is not a matter of identity politics. It doesn't help to analyse where they went wrong if you believe false characterisations of the campaign. Obviously I could have missed a lot, but it seemed to me that it was the Republicans who wanted to present the Harris campaign as being about identity politics; which suggests that one (among many) things that the Democrats would have to work on is learning how to combat misinformation campaigns. Not that that is exactly a new problem; but the use of misinformation as a strategy is different in scale and range now. Identity politics does matter. It is why the UK had devolution to the different countries rather than some other assortment of locations. But electorally, it is usually best to frame such matters in terms of universal interests, rights and protections that everyone can see themselves as having a share in - and not just on behalf of others whom they may or may not care about or understand. Anything else is too easy to distort. To play devil's advocate to myself, perhaps the Harris campaign was too keen to talk about abortion as a women's issue; that could have been a strategic mistake of the kind Mandelson had in mind.
The fact that Harris was VP was pure identity politics,don't believe me?...then go check Biden and his comments of who he picks as his VP running mate.
I’m coming round to the view (despite my dismay initially) that a second Trump presidency could be a significant benefit to the UK generally. We shall see.
Great interview and Madelson provides his usual mesmerising thoughts and ideas ~ thanks for providing an opportunity to listen to his wisdom delivered in his unique gentle manner.
Peter would make a fantastic US ambassador. However, the reality is he’s intellectually and temperamentally unlikely to get on with Trump or his administration so is not best suited for that position at this moment in time.
Kindly don't reduce abortion rights to 'identity politics' It's insulting to half the population. For all of us, but foremost for women and girls, Trump is turning progress back hundreds of years. Its Taliban US style. Its shocking and it MATTERS.
Gentlemen. History, history. Never forget - or repeat. The USA has electively for a while gone back two centuries and opted for a monarch with the qualities and methods of a King of those days. So King Donald 1 it is. Hence his court - loyal - to do his bidding. But go to 1789, France. Or for England 1199 - John 1. Who....''Nonetheless, modern historians agree that he also had many faults as king, including what historian Ralph Turner describes as "distasteful, even dangerous personality traits", such as pettiness, spitefulness, and cruelty.'' John survived until 1216 a year after the billionaraires reigned him in Magna Carta. King Donald is ripping up the US using his MAGA Carta at the bidding of the American people. And this is like 1933 Germany when the people had had enough post WW1 enough to be open to their dangerous personality. We can but hope that mortality disposes of King Donald and his acolytes without WW3. The court will remain - but their brain cells are less than the gold in their pockets. We'll see. But heads down now, gentlemen. Transactional times indeed Peter. Not trans.
Well UK government just given USA the bird on behalf of UK "so sorry" treat this guy with the contempt he deserves, solution US appoint NF as ambassador to the UK he has measured this idiot, and Trump shouldn't even grant him any face to face contact at all, Stammer off to the naughty step again, useless.
Lewis, what are you doing with your Trans activism again? 🤦 THAT IS THE PROBLEM - luxury beliefs and nonsense mongers. Professor stock will be remembered x
Brexit gives little Britain the chance to come to terms with its own mediocrity. It's difficult to get to get you people to address Ireland, starting with the unionist veto on rationality.
Mandelson lost not one - but two governments posts. I don't think he is quite as clever as he thinks he is. He was not actually the arch architect of New Labour - I would say that someone like Alistair Campbell probably had more influence during that time.
The walking back from that Musk allegation would've made Michael Jackson jealous. The thing with Mandelson here is that he's sort-of correctly identified the problem the Democrats had, but doesn't realise he's also representative of the kind of electoral issues liberal parties have been and will continue to face, and it's exemplified here by his ducking and weaving around difficult questions posed by Lewis here. People are sick of the classic model of political operation that wields cynically dishonest rhetoric towards voters, where everyone has to read between the lines of everything the politician doesn't say to figure out what their intent is, and are gravitating towards the cynically honest methods of populists that instead leave people wondering what they won't do. People just don't have the patience anymore for diplomatically worded answers that leave as many avenues open for politicians as possible, and are now far more amenable to politicians that tell them all the wild things they want to do in an ideal world. The specifics of what you say doesn't actually mean that much anymore. Only the feeling that you want to impart. Until we figure that out we're going to keep losing to populists.
Coming from a family that worked in the car industry in Oxford for many years what do I see in this video? 2 posh people gushing about how wonderful wealthy Oxford University is. Who own vast swathes of land who benefit every time more houses are built. Like inspector morse will the car industry in Oxford be discussed? Of course not.
Oxford University is a massively successful institution, recognized throughout the world because of its standards of excellence. The car industry in Oxford, not so much. Chip on the shoulder obscuring your view?
Mr Mandelson, we do academia very well. World class, why can't the apolitical class put more enthusiasm into the manual trades? A new Oxford college for manual trades not separate like brookes.
Nigel Farage is the obvious choice to be our ambassador in Washington. His connection to Trump's inner circle could help us avoid punitive tariffs, and Farage representing us on the world stage would show that we've put the Brexit divisions behind us.
seriously .. soap-opera style 'thinking' .. Why would you trust Farage with the Nation's security ? I'm so glad this infantile way of doing politics has gone with the last Government. Credulous.
Well Farage already spends more time in the US than his Clacton constituency, so they wouldn’t miss him. Ambassador though? Come off it, the man is a shyster.
One of the most devious manipulative Machiavellian characters to ever walk this earth, he shouldn’t be in any position of authority at all.
I think he's perfect for dealing with the US. We need devious when dealing with the newly elected w⚓
Listen what he said about Corbyn!!?
@@hieroglyph321drama queen
I notice you've given him a free pass over allegations around his close relationship with Epstein. Surely, he needs to account for that given his role.
Why do controversial people have a right to speak at universities according to him but students dont have the right to express their objection
Peter Mandelson recently said that "the UK should move past the idea of a "special relationship" with the United States". I have been saying this for decades. The "Special Relationship" is one way and only ever existed in the mind of successive UK governments, fawning over something that didn't exist and in the hope that we could retain greatness by standing on the coat tails of the country with the biggest sticks and stones. It's high time that the UK started to have more respect for itself. Mandelson has had an extensive political career and as such has been part and parcel of getting the UK to the all time low it finds itself in today.
Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Oxford or the USA.
Ah, Mandelson. Boring anecdote alert. Had a meeting with him in his office, in Parliament. Early 2000’s? Me and a few other teacher trade unionists. A few minutes into the meeting, someone more interesting than us walked past his open door. Mid sentence, he jumped up and off he went never to return. We saw ourselves out. I’m sure he won’t have slept, since. Sums the fella up.
Always fascinating to listen to Mandy. Such a strategist and also a pragmatist. Assesses not where he might wish we were but where we actually are. Refreshing.
Establishment lickspittle interviews Establishment lickspittle ...
Irrespective of whether one agrees with his views, it is in my view worth listening to such an eloquent and crisp orator.
Mandelson behind that facade is a horrible man and should be kept away from British politics
why? he is the person that they need, Mandelson is quite smart, and well conected.
@@luisinhocuenta9496 Yes he is. But he was very corrupt when he had a post-
in government. As we all know
True socialist with a 5 million house. A man of the people. Plus his EU pension and payoff. When he reaches the age of 65, Mr Mandelson will receive a gold-plated pension, starting at £31,000 and then rising in line with the cost of living. Plus mp pension. Nice work if you can get it.
He is 71 years of age. But if you thought he was under 65, he might be happy to take that as a compliment.
I really appreciate the thoughtful discussion on higher education and the culture wars, especially in the context of how Labour should engage with the new American administration. Great insights all around, really makes you think about the future!
So you can't multitask. Absolutely creased.
So basically mandelsons approach to Trump is becoming the 51st state doing whatever he wants... Got it. So patriotic
I think Mandelson is thinking of a different america😂
Never like the man but an excellent interview, refreshing to have someone who beautifully string words and ideas together. However I think he only actually answered one question lol clever.
Personal (and undoubtedly influenced) views aside, the Dark Lord remains intellectually at the top of his game. He is equally transactional, has x-ray insight, and as awful as it seems is a perfect candidate to be US ambassador. An incredibly interesting individual. Better to have him on side I’m sure.
There is a difference between "teasing" and having a view that a particular group shouldn't exist or be discriminated against
Unless the coverage I saw was unrepresentative, the Harris campaign did not focus on identity politics; and Mandelson suggested the focus was on a single issue of abortion rights. That is not a matter of identity politics. It doesn't help to analyse where they went wrong if you believe false characterisations of the campaign. Obviously I could have missed a lot, but it seemed to me that it was the Republicans who wanted to present the Harris campaign as being about identity politics; which suggests that one (among many) things that the Democrats would have to work on is learning how to combat misinformation campaigns. Not that that is exactly a new problem; but the use of misinformation as a strategy is different in scale and range now.
Identity politics does matter. It is why the UK had devolution to the different countries rather than some other assortment of locations. But electorally, it is usually best to frame such matters in terms of universal interests, rights and protections that everyone can see themselves as having a share in - and not just on behalf of others whom they may or may not care about or understand. Anything else is too easy to distort. To play devil's advocate to myself, perhaps the Harris campaign was too keen to talk about abortion as a women's issue; that could have been a strategic mistake of the kind Mandelson had in mind.
The fact that Harris was VP was pure identity politics,don't believe me?...then go check Biden and his comments of who he picks as his VP running mate.
This man is going to say what serves himself…100% and he always has……
I’m coming round to the view (despite my dismay initially) that a second Trump presidency could be a significant benefit to the UK generally. We shall see.
Old Mandy dancing on the fence … bottom line, it’s trumps no problem, he’s saying whatever happens I’ll be alright
Well, there's a man demonstrating a level of care and diplomacy in what he says that would not be out of place in an ambassador ...
why is he suddenly popping up?
where's he been?
Mandelson has absolutely no shame......how dare he speak to anyone he's so low you have to stare down to see him, then wish you hadn't.
What a brilliant interview. Both of you relaxed and excellent content. Still want to keep Mandy here to steer Labour, not over the pond.
This is the first time I’ve heard him talk common sense .. perhaps because he has no axe to grind.
Fabulous assessment by PM of current political landscape, both here and in the US. Not sure what Lewis Goodhall's contribution was though 😂.
Great interview and Madelson provides his usual mesmerising thoughts and ideas ~ thanks for providing an opportunity to listen to his wisdom delivered in his unique gentle manner.
I’ve never liked Mandelson. In the Blair years, post and now, however he does interview well and what he has to say is always interesting.
Peter would make a fantastic US ambassador. However, the reality is he’s intellectually and temperamentally unlikely to get on with Trump or his administration so is not best suited for that position at this moment in time.
Your wish just came true
No mention of his little mate Epstein. Strange that. Goodalls slap head is coming on strong😂😂
Kindly don't reduce abortion rights to 'identity politics'
It's insulting to half the population. For all of us, but foremost for women and girls, Trump is turning progress back hundreds of years. Its Taliban US style. Its shocking and it MATTERS.
Well done Lewis. Excellent interview
Why does Lewis always wear dark glasses?🤔
Whilst you're there with Mandelson Lewis...I could do with a free passport,just asking.
In my opinion trump isn’t fit to be president of the United States.
Gentlemen. History, history. Never forget - or repeat. The USA has electively for a while gone back two centuries and opted for a monarch with the qualities and methods of a King of those days. So King Donald 1 it is. Hence his court - loyal - to do his bidding. But go to 1789, France. Or for England 1199 - John 1. Who....''Nonetheless, modern historians agree that he also had many faults as king, including what historian Ralph Turner describes as "distasteful, even dangerous personality traits", such as pettiness, spitefulness, and cruelty.'' John survived until 1216 a year after the billionaraires reigned him in Magna Carta.
King Donald is ripping up the US using his MAGA Carta at the bidding of the American people. And this is like 1933 Germany when the people had had enough post WW1 enough to be open to their dangerous personality. We can but hope that mortality disposes of King Donald and his acolytes without WW3. The court will remain - but their brain cells are less than the gold in their pockets. We'll see. But heads down now, gentlemen. Transactional times indeed Peter. Not trans.
who is his heir i wonder... ?
Excellent interview, Lewis.
Mandy always comes across like Kaa, the serpent/python from the Jungle Book….
Mandelson says here he's on the centre left.
People should leave X now musk is basically a government official
Because government officials are famous for Tesla/SpaceX/Starlink are they???
it's concerning our government and my mp use twitter
leave now!
Well UK government just given USA the bird on behalf of UK "so sorry" treat this guy with the contempt he deserves,
solution US appoint NF as ambassador to the UK he has measured this idiot, and Trump shouldn't even grant him any face to face contact at all, Stammer off to the naughty step again, useless.
He turned his coat inside out to do the decorating earlier.
Ask Mandy about his relationship with Jeffery Epstein next time.
Lewis is a stylish man
why didn't you ask him about jeffrey epstein?
Why ?
@@douttadodgewhy do you think ?! 🤦♂️
@@olliefleming6860 because he's not a conspiracy 🥜 ..
I’m in nyc - love trump - hate Peter mendalson - he’s a idiot. Mendalson is horrible for British
Please can the camera stop moving around. Its unnecessary. Its annoying.
Lewis, what are you doing with your Trans activism again? 🤦
THAT IS THE PROBLEM - luxury beliefs and nonsense mongers. Professor stock will be remembered x
Trump's feeble skills are no match for the power of Mandy's dark arts.
Please stop making every podcast about the USA.
Musk's only positive quality is that he's not impressed by Starmer.
Brexit gives little Britain the chance to come to terms with its own mediocrity. It's difficult to get to get you people to address Ireland, starting with the unionist veto on rationality.
Mandelson lost not one - but two governments posts. I don't think he is quite as clever as he thinks he is. He was not actually the arch architect of New Labour - I would say that someone like Alistair Campbell probably had more influence during that time.
Welcome to the echo chamber of irrelevance 😂
Yah musk has just rescued stranded astronauts in space.… but keep it on the down low though because let’s not forget he’s a villain LOL.
The walking back from that Musk allegation would've made Michael Jackson jealous.
The thing with Mandelson here is that he's sort-of correctly identified the problem the Democrats had, but doesn't realise he's also representative of the kind of electoral issues liberal parties have been and will continue to face, and it's exemplified here by his ducking and weaving around difficult questions posed by Lewis here. People are sick of the classic model of political operation that wields cynically dishonest rhetoric towards voters, where everyone has to read between the lines of everything the politician doesn't say to figure out what their intent is, and are gravitating towards the cynically honest methods of populists that instead leave people wondering what they won't do.
People just don't have the patience anymore for diplomatically worded answers that leave as many avenues open for politicians as possible, and are now far more amenable to politicians that tell them all the wild things they want to do in an ideal world. The specifics of what you say doesn't actually mean that much anymore. Only the feeling that you want to impart. Until we figure that out we're going to keep losing to populists.
Coming from a family that worked in the car industry in Oxford for many years what do I see in this video?
2 posh people gushing about how wonderful wealthy Oxford University is. Who own vast swathes of land who benefit every time more houses are built. Like inspector morse will the car industry in Oxford be discussed? Of course not.
I don’t know about Peter’s background but Lewis grew up working class.
Oxford University is a massively successful institution, recognized throughout the world because of its standards of excellence. The car industry in Oxford, not so much. Chip on the shoulder obscuring your view?
Yes i plead guilty @@Earbrass1
Yes Oxford University is fantastic, I just would like a bit of the wealth to be shared a bit amongst other areas of Oxford.
@@Ne55yyup Lewis grew up on a Council Estate
He would love mincing around his Oxford rooms potificating over another glass of madeira.😢
What an unworthy comment.
@EdwardLindon oohh a little Mandy fan
Mandelson is a Lord now! Who made him a Lord? The Sith? (Frankie Boyle)
My word posh is arguable
Mr Mandelson, we do academia very well. World class, why can't the apolitical class put more enthusiasm into the manual trades? A new Oxford college for manual trades not separate like brookes.
Nigel Farage is the obvious choice to be our ambassador in Washington.
His connection to Trump's inner circle could help us avoid punitive tariffs, and Farage representing us on the world stage would show that we've put the Brexit divisions behind us.
seriously .. soap-opera style 'thinking' .. Why would you trust Farage with the Nation's security ? I'm so glad this infantile way of doing politics has gone with the last Government. Credulous.
Well Farage already spends more time in the US than his Clacton constituency, so they wouldn’t miss him. Ambassador though? Come off it, the man is a shyster.