Best explanation of how more complete combustion results from the turbulance of flames, heat as spin off from turning the corner! Thanks from Australia!
Very nice build. I think I would want a thinner steel plate, just to speed up the heating, but then you would sacrifice heat retention. Maybe build holes in the plate with removable plugs, to allow the fire to directly affect the bottom of a cooking vessel? That would be more complicated. I was wondering if he has hatch he can open to clean out any soot or ash that might collect under the steel plate.
@@yousafehsan1824 you’ll want at least 1/8”. But 1/4” is best. The problem with going thinner than 1/4 is that as it heats it will flex, and potentially warp over time. This might not be a big deal, but it’s something to consider. 1/8” may also burn out eventually. I would not use 1/16”. Too thin for sure.
Nice build. I found that it is imperative to clean the rockets every time, avoid balls of paper to start, all vents open, no kettle on top when starting, and of course, no green or wet material. The sad bit is those "commercial " rockets are made in 3rd world countries for $10 and are poorly built (like a novelty toy). I use a home built rocket space heater built entirety out of re-purposed materials and it is super efficient. I do need to improve my insulation to get a cleaner burn, so it's off to the store for perlite...
If you use a heavier gage/size stick you'll have less work to feed and less soot with a better burn. Stop burning so much paper. Use round/square sticks about finger to 1/2".
I would say you are really wrong about the problems with the stove. There is plenty of insulation between the wood and the heat of the flue and firebox. Maybe everyone in the world should be criticized for not following your particular standards for making a fire. You make a lot of assumptions, which I would say is the first flaw in your evaluation and in your ability to problem solve in general. I didn't see a lot of paper being burned, so that seems like a huge exaggeration. And you don't even say why you are criticizing him for the use of paper. Seems to work just fine the way he's doing it. Why is it without exception men who make these kind of comments and think they know better than everyone else?
@@HardcoreSustainable I think B Stott is referring to the kettle stove, which Kyle mentioned has a lot of soot as a result of dirty burn. Since Kyle mentioned that burner cost around $150, I'd suggest a Kelly Kettle (www.kellykettle.com/) for half the price which I got to use at Cob Cottage Company with Ianto Evans (inventor of that Lorena stove Kyle mentioned) 2 years ago. It takes little scrap pieces of wood and heats 1L of water to boiling in maybe 3 minutes, as the water container is a hollow cylinder and the flame burns up the middle, so lots of heated surface area and you get the rocket chimney draw. Never any soot, and that's burning sometimes punky scrap pieces in a temperate rainforest on the Oregon coast. We would heat up water in the morning for tea, pouring it into thermos bottles that would keep the water hot until dinner so we could have hot tea all day.
this kitchen is 3 season use, when we have our major influx of visitors. members of the kitchen disperse to smaller/other kitchen co-ops during the winter. that way we don't get sick of each other :)
CLICK LINK to see: Biomass cooking stoves that are built from a variety of different materials, and with a wide range of building techniques - stoves.bioenergylists.org/stove_construction
I can see the smoke that your store bought rocket stove is making. Just make it about 18 inches taller and it should be ok. The burn chamber is not long enough . I wish I could send you a picture of the rocket stove I made. It only stains the cook wear only slightly black and is easy to wash . The vertical burn chamber is not L O N G enough on your stove to allow a more complete burn that is why you see so much flame around your kettle and such a BIG carbon build up on your cook ware. Most of the rocket stoves I see their vertical burn chamber is too short and the wood is not near completely burned as it could be. A better burn make more heat from less wood and no visible smoke.......
there is a cleanout where the flue meets the class a chimney. the flue under the cooktop could be cleaned from the trivets (not installed at time of this vid). but there was nearly nothing to be cleaned, as the insulation made for a v clean burn.
No one here has used coal. It isn't readily available, but waste wood is. I imagine coal would not burn as clean and would burn too hot. It can be useful for metalwork though.
haha i actually did burn coal that i found on a camping trip. just used a few chunks for kicks. burned great, fire more than hot enough to burn them completely. was just as a joke; coal's not a great fuel source as it's not renewable! not to mention not locally abundant, like the hardwoods we have everywhere here.
Oh, stove is insulated but, not too bright to have it's supports and surround made of wood. You've made one great bonfire accident to happen. And the straw all around - one errant spark and poof.
you're exactly correct. this stove burned the kitchen down. you can see the details in the link in the comment i posted above. keep spreading your wisdom!
Best explanation of how more complete combustion results from the turbulance of flames, heat as spin off from turning the corner!
Thanks from Australia!
Thanks for properly explaining the j bend and turbulence
Love this...Could a light (aircrete/pearlite?) 'Portable mass' be fitted and placed on to the beautiful big stove top to make it into a 'couch?
YOu mean a heated couch?
Would you give some more details about how to secondary air slots at the wood feed were built in? Thank you, very informative video!
see the link in the comment i posted, there's more info about the air intake. thanks!
Great explanation of how this rocket stove works.
Very nice build.
I think I would want a thinner steel plate, just to speed up the heating, but then you would sacrifice heat retention.
Maybe build holes in the plate with removable plugs, to allow the fire to directly affect the bottom of a cooking vessel?
That would be more complicated.
I was wondering if he has hatch he can open to clean out any soot or ash that might collect under the steel plate.
I don't remember if there is a hatch for cleaning under the plate.
Yes, the half inch was too thick. 1/4" would have been better. We did add trivets to good effect.
@@rabbityoder4402 I can't afford the 1/4" so can I use the 1/16" or 1/8"instead of 1/4". and witch thickness is better between 1/16" and 1/8".
@@yousafehsan1824 you’ll want at least 1/8”. But 1/4” is best. The problem with going thinner than 1/4 is that as it heats it will flex, and potentially warp over time. This might not be a big deal, but it’s something to consider. 1/8” may also burn out eventually. I would not use 1/16”. Too thin for sure.
it burns much less, wood and small diameter sticks versus a traditional woodstove?
I think that’s the idea. It burns wood more efficiently
Great job!
How much heat does it generate?
pretty negligible compared to the 90 degree heat of the ambient MO summer temps. :) kitchen has great air movement.
If the cook surface was about half that thickness, it would be more versatile.
Cool smart guy
amazing.
Hey! Cool cooking stove!
Nice build.
I found that it is imperative to clean the rockets every time, avoid balls of paper to start, all vents open, no kettle on top when starting, and of course, no green or wet material.
The sad bit is those "commercial " rockets are made in 3rd world countries for $10 and are poorly built (like a novelty toy).
I use a home built rocket space heater built entirety out of re-purposed materials and it is super efficient. I do need to improve my insulation to get a cleaner burn, so it's off to the store for perlite...
Cave men living !
If you use a heavier gage/size stick you'll have less work to feed and less soot with a better burn. Stop burning so much paper. Use round/square sticks about finger to 1/2".
I would say you are really wrong about the problems with the stove. There is plenty of insulation between the wood and the heat of the flue and firebox. Maybe everyone in the world should be criticized for not following your particular standards for making a fire. You make a lot of assumptions, which I would say is the first flaw in your evaluation and in your ability to problem solve in general. I didn't see a lot of paper being burned, so that seems like a huge exaggeration. And you don't even say why you are criticizing him for the use of paper. Seems to work just fine the way he's doing it. Why is it without exception men who make these kind of comments and think they know better than everyone else?
@@HardcoreSustainable I think B Stott is referring to the kettle stove, which Kyle mentioned has a lot of soot as a result of dirty burn. Since Kyle mentioned that burner cost around $150, I'd suggest a Kelly Kettle (www.kellykettle.com/) for half the price which I got to use at Cob Cottage Company with Ianto Evans (inventor of that Lorena stove Kyle mentioned) 2 years ago. It takes little scrap pieces of wood and heats 1L of water to boiling in maybe 3 minutes, as the water container is a hollow cylinder and the flame burns up the middle, so lots of heated surface area and you get the rocket chimney draw. Never any soot, and that's burning sometimes punky scrap pieces in a temperate rainforest on the Oregon coast. We would heat up water in the morning for tea, pouring it into thermos bottles that would keep the water hot until dinner so we could have hot tea all day.
1 part cement , 8 part water 18 part perlite
Apparently no harsh winters there.
this kitchen is 3 season use, when we have our major influx of visitors. members of the kitchen disperse to smaller/other kitchen co-ops during the winter. that way we don't get sick of each other :)
how thick is the flat cooking surface thanks so much :D
He says in the video at about 4 minutes that it's 1/2 inch thick stock steel.
CLICK LINK to see: Biomass cooking stoves that are built from a variety of different materials, and with a wide range of building techniques - stoves.bioenergylists.org/stove_construction
Trying to remake an old monarch type kitchen stove?
nice stove
I can see the smoke that your store bought rocket stove is making. Just make it about 18 inches taller and it should be ok. The burn chamber is not long enough . I wish I could send you a picture of the rocket stove I made. It only stains the cook wear only slightly black and is easy to wash . The vertical burn chamber is not L O N G enough on your stove to allow a more complete burn that is why you see so much flame around your kettle and such a BIG carbon build up on your cook ware. Most of the rocket stoves I see their vertical burn chamber is too short and the wood is not near completely burned as it could be. A better burn make more heat from less wood and no visible smoke.......
Clean out?
What is your question?
there is a cleanout where the flue meets the class a chimney. the flue under the cooktop could be cleaned from the trivets (not installed at time of this vid). but there was nearly nothing to be cleaned, as the insulation made for a v clean burn.
have you ever tried using coal in the fire box?
No one here has used coal. It isn't readily available, but waste wood is. I imagine coal would not burn as clean and would burn too hot. It can be useful for metalwork though.
haha i actually did burn coal that i found on a camping trip. just used a few chunks for kicks. burned great, fire more than hot enough to burn them completely. was just as a joke; coal's not a great fuel source as it's not renewable! not to mention not locally abundant, like the hardwoods we have everywhere here.
soot = wasted energy
Do you make stoves that are soot free? I'd love to see it.
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Yeah, it really helps the situation to be a troll.
Hardcore Sustainable sorry couldn’t help it........got to me after a bit and distracted me toooooooo much sos👍🤠🇦🇺
like sorry man!
Oh, stove is insulated but, not too bright to have it's supports and surround made of wood. You've made one great bonfire accident to happen. And the straw all around - one errant spark and poof.
you're exactly correct. this stove burned the kitchen down. you can see the details in the link in the comment i posted above. keep spreading your wisdom!
where is ur shirt sir?
Nobody wears a shirt at Dancing Rabbit. He's just conforming to our dress code.
@@HardcoreSustainable even the ladies?
Everyone. That's why I never where a shirt in any of my videos.
ha ha ha ha,that was funny, you made my day, thank you.
i can never understand how anyone can wear a shirt at 95 degrees and 80% humidity :o
It would be easier, just to build a standard, front loading burning box...
I think the advantage of the top loader is that the stove feeds itself, and once you get it going the draw is amazing.