BRAVO Jonas! Most certainly a 'bravura' performance which is never dull and always full of musicality. Those of you who whine on about how his voice is not 'this' or 'that' be grateful that in Jonas we have a tenor who is handsome, a musician and INTERESTING to watch and to listen to!
I've recently realized that his trills are just beyond amazing. So clean and finished! He does them great in Verdi too. Some people find all sorts of flaws in various instances of his singing, but the overall history of his repertoire has shown that there's nothing he can't do. A subtle stroke of genius is what this master has. From Mozart to Wagner - all on a level of highest musicality and technique. I wish he wasn't as good-looking. I think that confuses people and distracts from an objective valuation. People see him and think something's rotten in Denmark - this just can't be, this guy can't possibly sing well TOO.
I can agree that Idomeneo js not for his voice but DAMN he did a remarkable job! Is not easy work out that heavy voice on those coloratura notes....he a great artist!
@JuanDiegooooo You may not consider it bravura, but the fact that someone with a voice of that type manages to sing all of the fioratura, even if not completely cleanly, is a feat of bravura in my book. The runs in this particular aria are perhaps the most demanding I've ever run across and fiendishly difficult to execute.
@sterneflamme This is not a baritone, although he does have baritonal timbre, which is the mark of a tenor who will move into more dramatic territory, which I understand he has done in the last several years. The timbre is not purely baritone but has a dark quality combined with a tenorial trumpet quality, especially when heard over an orchestra. While I agree that he doesn't manage all the fioratura cleanly, for a voice of his type what he has achieved is rather a feat
Una voz muy grande (o pesada) para esta aria en su versión de bravura pero me gustó mucho, que sobresaliente control de su voz. Es raro escuchar a un spinto haciendo coloraturas así. Bravo Jonas!
Mr Kaufmann sung this role several times on stage in Zurich. His performance was breath taking in particular when you compare with the small lyric voices who usually sing Idomeneo!
@JuanDiegooooo There are two versions of this aria. One with the coloratura omitted (There's a Domingo version of that one on TH-cam), and the complete version that Kaufmann attempts here, which is called the 'bravura version'. That's it.
Folks, Idomeneo is the ONLY Mozart role suited to Kaufmann's voice! And though most big tenors eschew the fioritura in this aria, JK does it just fine. Personally, for Idomeneo, I prefer a big tenor to the light tenors who do it these days. Study up on the historical practice with this role and the fach classification.. this is a Mozart tenor role that need NOT be sung by a stereotypical "Mozartean tenor"! ;)
Johnny Lee Green You are quite right. William Mann, former music critic of the London Times and author of The Operas of Mozart, said that the role of Idomeneo required a Tristan-voice that was fluent in fioritura. I see no reason to differ with that assessment.
This is just the repertoire that suits his LEGGERO voice. He needs to learn the good emission of the voice. Nothing to do to Rokcwell Blake"s performance. If he is the next Vickers, I am the Queen of England.
He may get all the coloratura ut that doesn't make it good. Here Peter Schreier's recording of this and you will realize what a true Mozartian tenor is. Believe me I love Kaufmann! I saw him as Parsifal and he blew me away!! I just think that his voice is not suited to these roles
peccato per la sua voce capprina ( in questa aria soltanto) quasi tutta la sua coloratura è fallita , ma c`è altra via per cantare questa aria , ed è la versione semplice senza la coloratura è che alcune voci dicono che è la versione originale e che la cantano leopold simoneau , richard lewis e tante altri .
Kaufmann is one of my favourite tenors, but I think that this role is not for his voice... :( Only Pavi could arrange this role in the most complete way.. from the new tenors for this role I prefer Saimir Pirgu, check it out ;)
Hm, listening to this piece in Kaufmann's presentation is very odd experience indeed. FIrst of all I have to admit that Kaufmann's voice neither was big nor had any squillo, deepness, shine. Technically it is quite bad as well, if he wanted to perform this aria he should prefer the alternative Raaff's version. Because bravura aria is a very fast music first of all. This too slow tempo is just unacceptable. The fioritura elements are so poorly performed, especially famous long staccato lines and thrills. Short breath, there is no any hint of effortless which is the main characteristic of the Mozartian singing. Although I'm very appreciated you for this rare and really exclusive record.
BRAVO Jonas! Most certainly a 'bravura' performance which is never dull and always full of musicality. Those of you who whine on about how his voice is not 'this' or 'that' be grateful that in Jonas we have a tenor who is handsome, a musician and INTERESTING to watch and to listen to!
I've recently realized that his trills are just beyond amazing. So clean and finished! He does them great in Verdi too. Some people find all sorts of flaws in various instances of his singing, but the overall history of his repertoire has shown that there's nothing he can't do. A subtle stroke of genius is what this master has. From Mozart to Wagner - all on a level of highest musicality and technique. I wish he wasn't as good-looking. I think that confuses people and distracts from an objective valuation. People see him and think something's rotten in Denmark - this just can't be, this guy can't possibly sing well TOO.
Amazing talented!! Thank you!!
I have heard many of his recordings online, but I am truly impressed with his fluid runs.
Wonderful ... a whole different side to the man! I love the tone of his voice.
I am impressed with Jonas' agility. This ranks as one of the best renditions that I have heard.The benchmark for this was set by Herman Jadlowker.
I love that trill.
I adore the timbre of his voice ....
am i in heaven? this is so great...just sit back and relax!
Small date correction, the run was from January 12 - January 26, 2003. On March 12, 2003 he was singing Alfredo in Chicago.
I can agree that Idomeneo js not for his voice but DAMN he did a remarkable job! Is not easy work out that heavy voice on those coloratura notes....he a great artist!
great !!!!! he's the best!!!!!! ♥
@JuanDiegooooo You may not consider it bravura, but the fact that someone with a voice of that type manages to sing all of the fioratura, even if not completely cleanly, is a feat of bravura in my book. The runs in this particular aria are perhaps the most demanding I've ever run across and fiendishly difficult to execute.
@sterneflamme This is not a baritone, although he does have baritonal timbre, which is the mark of a tenor who will move into more dramatic territory, which I understand he has done in the last several years. The timbre is not purely baritone but has a dark quality combined with a tenorial trumpet quality, especially when heard over an orchestra. While I agree that he doesn't manage all the fioratura cleanly, for a voice of his type what he has achieved is rather a feat
He is absolutely our hero.
This is an early Jonas Kaufmann. Very well done at this time.
Una voz muy grande (o pesada) para esta aria en su versión de bravura pero me gustó mucho, que sobresaliente control de su voz. Es raro escuchar a un spinto haciendo coloraturas así. Bravo Jonas!
Beautiful ♥
Mr Kaufmann sung this role several times on stage in Zurich. His performance was breath taking in particular when you compare with the small lyric voices who usually sing Idomeneo!
He sang the role first time 2001 in Kassel.
@JuanDiegooooo
There are two versions of this aria. One with the coloratura omitted (There's a Domingo version of that one on TH-cam), and the complete version that Kaufmann attempts here, which is called the 'bravura version'. That's it.
A version of this aria without the coloratura would be a crime! Thank you for the warning so that I can avoid listening to that recording.
Perhaps he was waiting for one of that huge cadenzas. I know what he means. But I do still like Jonas' reading of this aria
Folks, Idomeneo is the ONLY Mozart role suited to Kaufmann's voice! And though most big tenors eschew the fioritura in this aria, JK does it just fine. Personally, for Idomeneo, I prefer a big tenor to the light tenors who do it these days. Study up on the historical practice with this role and the fach classification.. this is a Mozart tenor role that need NOT be sung by a stereotypical "Mozartean tenor"! ;)
He was a very good Tamino, Belmonte and Ferrando; Titus was not as good.
Johnny Lee Green You are quite right. William Mann, former music critic of the London Times and author of The Operas of Mozart, said that the role of Idomeneo required a Tristan-voice that was fluent in fioritura. I see no reason to differ with that assessment.
Araiza the best for this aria !!!
he is fina, not bad at all. love his his vibrato.
I just suffered through hearing Polenzani butcher this on the Met stage tonight and came to this for ear bleach.
Katherine Pecore cannot be serious?
And Tamino. He sang Ferrando as well before his voice darkened.
Timbro di voce indadatto a fare Mozart, questo sì, ma la tecnica vocale e il fraseggio sono eccezonali.
Hermann Jadlowker - only one name to mention.
Bravo quasi come Pavarotti ma più bello❤
This is just the repertoire that suits his LEGGERO voice. He needs to learn the good emission of the voice. Nothing to do to Rokcwell Blake"s performance. If he is the next Vickers, I am the Queen of England.
Um... gee, thanks? Haha. How did you find his singing?
do you have a recording of don ottavio?
Nothing will ever compare to Rockwell Blake singing this...the cleanest coloratura singing I’ve ever heard
and such a bizarre timbre
I know I'm blaspheming - but he is no Mozart singer.
No, when he sang it he was. Voices devellop. The directions nobody knows in antcipation.
He may get all the coloratura ut that doesn't make it good. Here Peter Schreier's recording of this and you will realize what a true Mozartian tenor is. Believe me I love Kaufmann! I saw him as Parsifal and he blew me away!! I just think that his voice is not suited to these roles
peccato per la sua voce capprina ( in questa aria soltanto) quasi tutta la sua coloratura è fallita , ma c`è altra via per cantare questa aria , ed è la versione semplice senza la coloratura è che alcune voci dicono che è la versione originale e che la cantano leopold simoneau , richard lewis e tante altri .
although this is not his best, at least he doesn't cheat and cut out all of the coloratura like most tenors with his voice type do.
This was an...attempt
Try Jadlowker
good rendition....however, in his defense, the conductors ALLEGRO MAESTOSO is lacking a lot of the Maestoso part
Kaufmann is one of my favourite tenors, but I think that this role is not for his voice... :( Only Pavi could arrange this role in the most complete way.. from the new tenors for this role I prefer Saimir Pirgu, check it out ;)
Mr. Kaufmann needs a good voice teacher who teachs him a good emission. He is completetly ingolatto.
it's ok-ish
J. Kaufmann ist kein Mozartsänger!
Que c'est lourd !!
pas du tout la voix pour cette aria !
Pourtant J K a une voix superbe et une couleur magnifique!!
Hm, listening to this piece in Kaufmann's presentation is very odd experience indeed. FIrst of all I have to admit that Kaufmann's voice neither was big nor had any squillo, deepness, shine. Technically it is quite bad as well, if he wanted to perform this aria he should prefer the alternative Raaff's version. Because bravura aria is a very fast music first of all. This too slow tempo is just unacceptable. The fioritura elements are so poorly performed, especially famous long staccato lines and thrills. Short breath, there is no any hint of effortless which is the main characteristic of the Mozartian singing. Although I'm very appreciated you for this rare and really exclusive record.
In Knoedeling he is the best in the world at all. Otherwise a desaster...
Horrible. !!! It's not your repertory!!!
Después de oír esta basura, tuve que ir a ver la rendición de Vargas para sacarme el mal sabor de boca
Yo quise ver la de Pavarotti pero la cadenza y las coloraturas no estan todas :'v
Hm, it is not bad at all. Not versatile enough, not "mozartic" enough. It is too heavy for Mozart. But hey, I am glad once I am able to sing that!
That's not really what I call "bravura" :-((
Castronovo sounds better on this.