finally, someone who explains why he only thinks messi only deserved 4 ballon dors. other people who say messi only deserved 4 ballon dors dont even explain why.
@@s9persaiyan Its based on stats,but not purely,trophies matter too, imagine if messi didnt contribute in the league matches,they could have not won the laliga and go to the ucl,plus,im not saying it's purely stats,just saying a final is equivalent to a league match as that is the base if the final,so yeah and pls subscribe if you love the video,thanks brother!
Yeah,Fari Enough As the 2009 one,its not 100% he wouldnt win the ballon dor and 2019,its hard to compare the stats between the forward and a defender and can you subscribe to my channel if you love the video?Thanks Brother!😁
@PP27889ronaldo is also not my goat but you did not have to be disrespectful pls respect all players and pls subscribe if you ❤ the video,thanks brother!
@PP27889Thank you so much brother!I also wish you a merry Christmas and new year to you and your family as well,if you did not have the intentions to disrespect ronaldo,why did you use 'penaldo'?😊😅
This guy: Sneijder deserves it more than Messi cause treble Also this guy: Messi didn’t deserve 2009 even though he won treble Also people: “Ronaldo deserved 2013 even though Ribery won treble”
No,im saying messi didnt win the treble in 2009 as the ucl semis was kinds rigged and even barcelona fans agree with that,so technically,he didnt win the treble and also i said iniesta deserved it in 2010,not sneijder ,so sorry for the confusion and pls sub if you love the video,thanks brother!
2010- Sneijder wasn't the best player in his club and country and had worse stats than Messi, and Messi still won trophies so you can't deny that Messi won individual awards, had better stats and won trophies too, so Messi deserves 2019- this was close but Messi was the top scorer of The ucl, won the La Liga and etc. and mostly it was Messi carrying the barca team, Vvd was good but not as good as Messi, even Vvd's teammates were in the top 10 or top 5, and the ballon Dor is mostly on the league titles and individual awards, so since Messi is an attacker, Messi wins it and deserves it 2021- pretty controversial but Messi won the Copa América, was the top scorer, top assister and best player, Lewa was with a good team like Bayern Munich so it would be normal for him, his stats are better than Messi because he is a striker, not a winger, Messi has more assists and a decent amount of goals and may or may not have more G/a than Lewa, so technically, Messi wins and deserves 2023- Messi literally won the wc, best player, top assister, Laureus winner, Ligue 1 winner, leagues cup winner, motm in every single WC stage, french super cup and etc. Messi had more G/a than Haaland and Haaland ghosts in big games and it wasn't him that scored to win the Ucl final, it was Rodri, so Messi wins and deserves it
@@chingyminecraftgods9424 then explain, what's wrong with my explanation? And as a Messi fan, I can accept that Ronaldo is better than Messi in some aspects, but mostly, if you say that the ballon Dor is rigged, just watch golf, I've already said why Messi deserves it so you can just piss off
I think messi deserves 7. Iniesta was injured for a while in 2010, so messi deserved. In 2019 messi did it all by himself while VVD did it with prime liverpool, so not really any question there. 2021 Lewa deserved, and 2022 messi won world cup so obvi him
Hmm,ok,i respect you list but the thing is if iniesta deserves 2010,messi does in 2023,if iniesta deserves doesnt in 2010,messi also doesnt cuz they are similar scenarios and pls sub if u ❤️ the channel.Thanks Brother!
@@StunTH-camnop because Messi was the best player and in wc 2022 Iniesta not the wc best or Messi performance in 2022 is also a blon dor winning performance 16 goals and 16 assist in ligue 1 wc french cup 8 goals in UCL too in wc 7 goals and 3 assist in 2022 wc but Iniesta jest scored a goal in 2010 wc that's it I really written a paragraph for you
@@karthik20000Once again,thank you for taking your time to make this comment,this is just my opinion,even though Iniesta stats were not fabulous in the WC,we do gotta acknowledge he is a midfielder and was an integral part of that Spanish team, without him,it is highly doubted for spain to win the wc as the midfield is the department which carried spain to the world cup,not to be hater,and if you see all my vids,i am a messi fan,5/7 of his goals was pens,but on the field,he was still an integral part of Argentina like Iniesta,stats doesn't explain a victory.Plus,Iniesta won some significant league trophies too in Spain so yeah,just my opinion bro,dont take personally that im arguing with you,i respect your opinion alot too just saying thats not my view😊
@@StunTH-cam 7/4 penalties it doesn't mater he scored 7 goals and 3 assist most successful dribbles most key passes most g/a in wc 2022 best player of wc golden boot runner up wc/ligue 1/ french cup a and most g/a as haaland Iniesta is injured most of the time messi carried the barcalona and how Iniesta deservers man ya its your opinion then but logically messi is better in 2023 and 2010 know some football knowledge here trophies isn't matter performance is the matter for balon dor in 2013 ronaldo won because of performance soo and for scoring goals = golden boot performance = balon dor show some respect here and I don't care whose fan you are
@@karthik20000first of all,sry if my tone was sounding disrespectful, I did not mean that all and then,for the Ronaldo ballon d'ors,I'm working on it now,will release soon,pen goals are goals Indeed,but just tryna say stats isnt everything and in game performance is more important, that's all, even though Iniesta was injured,he was still integral for both club and country,without him spain will definitely lose the WC and although Iniesta's absence won't affect Barcelona as much,it will still make the team weaker😊😊not tryna disrespect your opinion,I just have a view,it might change overtime,but for now,it stays as it is😊😊
Wdym,from 2009 to 2012,Messi was the most dangerous footballer and was miles clear as a player.2015,he was still the best player but only by a bit,2019,he was easily the best attacking player so idk what u talking abt.Btw,pls sub if u ❤️ the channel?Thks Bro!
Sorry for the late reply I mean I am a Messi fan if you see my other videos but just my opinion,some times the balloon dor is biased to Messi and Ronaldo as the ppl voting would fear that the media would criticise them if their fav player don't win,plus only if they win they can earn more.So,i tried to be as unbiased as possible and ofc i am not a journalist or smtg,just an ordinary fan,so yeah,just my opinion and can u sub if u love the video? Thanks brother!!❤️❤️
@@StunTH-cami dont think it’s bisssd as you think cr7 would of won the 2018 ballon dor with messi second and possibly in first van dijk only lost 5 votes in 2019 that barcelona squad wasn’t good and messi carried the entire team that’s the reason people voted for him only 2013 to me was the most biased one extendd votes and cr7 wins haaland 2022-2023 was overrated he only showed up in the premier league while his teammates carried him in the fa cup and the ucl you forgot haalsnd is goalscoer but not that great in style of play haalsnd has rordi and kdb to help him score too remember that
Ya,but team performance is also important cuz,it shows you how a player carried the team,if the player score like 50 goals and the team won nothing,that means it is pointless,cuz he prob scored against the pointless matches so this is my opinion and pls subscribe if you love the video, thanks brother!
@@StunTH-cam it is not pointless it shall be seen as the teamates are below par and the player is individually impeccable which is the criteria looked upon awarding individual awards team awards are more important but u cant punish a player who is carrying a team for other people deficiency on an individual awards as it is looking at an individual
@@SebanmathewTrue,but pele who didnt play in Europe but had the skills was regarded thr goat of that era,and Reus who is loyal to Dortmund stays there for so long and almost helped them win their Bundesliga
100 % you are. Wrong brother no hate in 2009 the 1st leg is also favouring Chelsea if you watched that matche even every footballers agreed but in your video you didn't said about that why brother and Messi stats is unbelievable in 2009 individually they will count successful dribbles key passes goals assist playmaking etc overall every thing right so Messi definitely win the balon dor / now you said 2010 didn't deserve right so what about Ronaldo in 2013 he didn't won any trophies in that year soo in 2010 Messi won some trophies and most goals top scorer dribbles key passes and Playmaking calculated individually right so Messi will win 100% sure no doubts and Iniesta he didn't deserve to win that because he was injured in most of the matches and the stats is looking bad to (for winning balon dor ) and he jest scored a goal in wc that's it so / now 2019 how can you even say that brother Messi carried the barcalona team to semi final laliga top scorer top assister Playmaker golden boot winner first ever player to win a golden boot and Playmaker award in a single season player records all of them were calculated you didn't mention this why individual awards also Messi has more / 2021 how lewa deserves that most g/a most Assist most dribbles key passes and almost everything Messi has lewa has goals that's it he deserves the balon dor in 2020 not in 2021 brother hope you understand and reply 😊 he deserves the 8 balon dor's never try to manipulate others
Thank you so much for taking your time to comment such a lengthy comment,I rlly appreciate it.In 2009,I didn't say Messi definitely did not deserve the ballon for,just if Chelsea wins the semis and man utd wins Chelsea,man utd would have won the treble that year,having a possibility of a player from man utd win,just a chance,cuz messi's stats were still damn good in 2009,just like you said.In 2010,like I said in the video,Messi either wins 2023/2010 ballon dor cuz they are similar situations,and are close calls so I would also agree if you said messi deserved the 2010 ballon dor.In 2019,it's definitely realllllllllllly impressive of Messi and ter stegen carrying Barcelona in their backs.If only dembele scored that sitter,screw that *****,anyways,it is difficult to compare the stats of a defender and a forward,I just believe it was one of the best PRIMEs of a defender in the history of football,so thats my opinion,but still cant blame you if you think messi deserves the award,cuz its difficult to compare.Hmm, Lewandowski actually scored 69 goals and 12 assists in 2021 while messi had 61 G/A in that year,and lewa got the golden boot too and messi's copa America is slightly more significant than lewa's trophies that year, but I think the goal stats would help Lewandowski win the ballon dors.All the ballon dors was out of close calls so I do respect your opinion as some stats are more significant from 1 person to another,Btw,just saying its just my opinion,thank you once again!!Can you also subscribe if you liked the video?Thanks Brother,I really appreciate it!
@@StunTH-cam again you are wrong lewa had 48 goals and 9 assist which means 57 g/a he had messi has 38 goals and 14 assist which is 52 g/a messi has most records most successful dribbles key passes passes playmaking like all the individual performance is messi has more even in same trophies aswal (in 2009 because barcalona has 5 trophies without ucl right and messi had a great individual performance so he and there is no if factor now barcalona win ucl so (2019 messi had a great season vvd had a better season to but coming to the points messi has won golden boot and playmaker in one season / messi has don a better job in both mid and attacking so messi is way better accept that atleast lewa didn't scored 60+ goals check his stats
@@karthik20000Idk where you got the stats from but from what I have got the stats from uefa.com,maybe try checking the stats there cuz I think it is pretty trustworthy and for 2019,you are right,Leo Messi won alot of individual awards but there is not much awards that a defender could win and won the uefa player of the year which is pretty much the uefa version of the ballon for,no hate,just my opinion!😊😊😂
The only thing I really do not agree, and one which is just your personal opinion is the comparison between a World Cup trophy having more value than a Champions League + 2 or 3 titles with 50+ goals. I only value the World Cup slightly more than the Champions League and that is not in terms of dificulty as I actually think the Champions League is where competition and level is the highest but I value it more because it only happens once every four years. In the end the result would be the same, Haaland would and should win in 2023 and Messi would win instead of Iniesta (although that one is more controversial and there's space to argue because stats are very different from 2023)
Oh ok,i respect your opinion,thats a very detailed comment, but in my opinion,the worldcup is based on their own country's strength and they just cant buy big players if they have the money,i mean players , especially in africa do go to European countries because of money but it is more difficult to do that,plus i feel like its more fair and even as a dark horse in a world cup is kinda common unlike in the ucl,so ill say a worldcup is = to 3 ucls but i still respect ur opinion 😊
How is Haaland not being able to compete in the world cup because of his national team more fair? If anything the Champions league is where it is most fair, if you can make it there you deserve it, if you are an exceptional player you will be wanted by the best richest clubs. @@StunTH-cam
@@daviid27.Loyalty?players like reus have loyalty to their clubs so they wouldnt move there,plus,norway is a decent team,ngl,with odegaard and haaland,being worldclass ,and others being mid,its decent,but a team like norway in the ucl couldnt go to the top but in the worldcup, they could,we could expect them and root for them
@StunTH-cam honestly, he desreves the 2009 one deffinately cause of the sextuple. the refereeing error in the chelsea game might've caused barca to win, but one game cannot change a whole entire season and so many trophies. 2019, vvd is a defender, won ucl, so many tackles and clean sheets. but being one man army, losing in the semis cause of dembele and still finishing ucl top scorer is just too great. and additionaly laliga helps a lot too. vvd was great, but Messi was just better that season. In 2010 Messu=i had 60 goals but he still should not have won. And it should not have been Xavi or Iniesta, but it should be sniejder. he not only won the treble, but was one goal away from the world cup too. I love your videos STUN but this one not so much. (If Ballondor was fair ACTUALLY fair) 2007: Ricardo KaKa (Ricardo KaKa) 2008: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo) 2009: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2010: Westly Sneidjer (Leo Messi) 2011: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2012: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2013: Franc Ribery (Crista Ronaldo) 2014: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo) 2015: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2016: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo) 2017: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo 2018: Luka Modric (Luka Modric) 2019: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2020: Lewandowski (Covid-19) 2021: Lewandowski (Leo Messi) 2022: Karim Benzema (Karim Benzema) 2023: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) (MOST WINNERS) Leo Messi: 6 Crista Ronaldo: 4 Lewandowski:2 Everyone Else: 1 Each (MOST ROBBED) Leo Messi: 2 Crista Ronaldo: 1 Covid-19: 1 (MOST ROBBED ON) LEWANDOWSKI: 2 Westly Sniedjer:1 Franc Ribery:1 YOUR WELCOME
Sorry a lot for the late reply,im going through a tough phase right now,so, i think im just gonna reupload all the videos which performed badly,pretty much all of them for now,ONCE AAGAIN,THAAANK YOU SO MUCCCCH FO THE SUPPORT,AS I HAVE BEEN GETTING TOO LESS VIEWS AND IF IT WASNT FOR YOU,I WOULD HAVE GIVEN UP,THANKK YOU SO SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING ME,i am very grateful for having a fan like you,when,i overcome this period and statt uploading new videos,i will definitely reply on this comment,sry for typing such a short reply to your loooooooooooooong comment,hope you understand and please forgive me.....
@@StunTH-cam it's ok man totally fine didn't mean to critisize you all I wanted to do was prove that messi deserves 6. And the late reply is tottaly fine cause this is just 10 days I've seen people reply after 2 years
@@StunTH-cam haha stun u r really funny i will keep supporting you and im glad i saved u from givng up best of luck for ur hard phase of time and im sorry i understand long replies r hard to read. And m8 y r u sayin sorry? its all ok bruv
It's been a year since I uploaded this vid,now my views kinda changed and I feel like Messi deserves all his d'ors except for 2019 and 2010.For 2021,lewa only won the bundesliga and got the European golden boot.But Messi won the laliga and copa and his stats are not that far off so I think Messi does deserve the award so yeah,and also can subscribe to my channel??Thanks brother!!
People glaze the World Cup so hard your logic is 💩 Messi deserved 2009 2010 2011 2012 2015 2019 He didn’t deserve 2021 2023 6 ballon dors Same for Ronaldo He deserved 2008 2013 2014 2016 2017 2018
I mean the worldcup is the most prestigious cups of the world.The players play for their countries not for some businessmen.They have to adapt to play with other team mates,they can't be having those team mates which would give the team a great balance.Attackers would have defend more,defenders have to attack more,depending on the team.To add to it's prestige,it can only be won once in 4years.The worldcup also brings talents be noticed,like emi Martinez in 2022,James Rodriguez in 2014,it shows that any team can win it unlike the UCLs.So,Worldcup should be a humongous part of the ballon dor and also pls sub if u liked the vid!Thks Brother!❤️❤️
The Ronaldo 2013??Which one do you give Messi 2009?I just said maybe,cuz only if man utd wins,the ballon dor will be diff,if Chelsea wins Messi will still be the winner,and thanks for commenting,I rlly appreciate it,can you subscribe as well?
@@berserker135Yea, that's fax,for me the same just with 2009 is not a robbery but just a big WHAT IF and can you subscribe if you ❤ the video?Thanks brother!
@@official_c00lkidd I didn’t mean to disrespect him but just saying mine,it’s like a debate,if you know what I mean and also can u sub if u liked the vid?Thanks brother!
@@StunTH-cam honestly, he desreves the 2009 one deffinately cause of the sextuple. the refereeing error in the chelsea game might've caused barca to win, but one game cannot change a whole entire season and so many trophies. 2019, vvd is a defender, won ucl, so many tackles and clean sheets. but being one man army, losing in the semis cause of dembele and still finishing ucl top scorer is just too great. and additionaly laliga helps a lot too. vvd was great, but Messi was just better that season. In 2010 Messu=i had 60 goals but he still should not have won. And it should not have been Xavi or Iniesta, but it should be sniejder. he not only won the treble, but was one goal away from the world cup too. I love your videos STUN but this one not so much. (If Ballondor was fair ACTUALLY fair) 2007: Ricardo KaKa (Ricardo KaKa) 2008: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo) 2009: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2010: Westly Sneidjer (Leo Messi) 2011: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2012: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2013: Franc Ribery (Crista Ronaldo) 2014: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo) 2015: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2016: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo) 2017: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo 2018: Luka Modric (Luka Modric) 2019: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) 2020: Lewandowski (Covid-19) 2021: Lewandowski (Leo Messi) 2022: Karim Benzema (Karim Benzema) 2023: Leo Messi (Leo Messi) (MOST WINNERS) Leo Messi: 6 Crista Ronaldo: 4 Lewandowski:2 Everyone Else: 1 Each (MOST ROBBED) Leo Messi: 2 Crista Ronaldo: 1 Covid-19: 1 (MOST ROBBED ON) LEWANDOWSKI: 2 Westly Sniedjer:1 Franc Ribery:1 YOUR WELCOME
@@Nitromix_9156_trent_pls_stayFor the 2009 one,yeah,messi deserved the award but if chelsea won and man utd won the final,cr7 should have won it,if chelsea won it,messi would Still be deserved but it's just a chance but not 100% for 2010,it depends because we have to see if we value the worldcup TROPHY or the whole tournament but im pretty sure every consider the TROPHY as the mooooore reputable one,same with 2019,but even without winning the ucl,messi can still be deserved but it's difficult to compare a defender with a forward so yeah!😊
Hmmm,sure,but i am a messi fan,u can ask my friends and check my shorts,its full of messi,this is just my opinion so yeah and pls subscribe if you loved the video,thanks brother!
I uploaded this vid,kinda while ago,so now Ik that 2009 semis had unfair fouls on Barca too.Im legit a Messi fan,just wanted to go be as unbiased as possible so yeah,pls sub if u ❤️ the vid,thanks brotha!
finally, someone who explains why he only thinks messi only deserved 4 ballon dors. other people who say messi only deserved 4 ballon dors dont even explain why.
Thanks Brother!!Whats your opinion though?Hurts to say that messi didnt deserve 4 ballon dors as a messi fan but it is what it is🥲
@@StunTH-cam 2012 was iniesta year not only did he win Euro Player of the tournaent ,he a well won euros which s identical to messi 2023 ballon dor
@@StunTH-cam if 2015 is based on stats then give it to cr7 ,so neymar deserves it more for his performance which lead barca to ucl
@@s9persaiyan Its based on stats,but not purely,trophies matter too, imagine if messi didnt contribute in the league matches,they could have not won the laliga and go to the ucl,plus,im not saying it's purely stats,just saying a final is equivalent to a league match as that is the base if the final,so yeah and pls subscribe if you love the video,thanks brother!
@@s9persaiyanMessi won the worldcup and scored 91 Goals and both of them are waaaaaaay off the euros and 60 goals so yeah😅
As a messi fan i think messi deserves 6 ballon dor 2010 and 2021 not deserved
Yeah,Fari Enough As the 2009 one,its not 100% he wouldnt win the ballon dor and 2019,its hard to compare the stats between the forward and a defender and can you subscribe to my channel if you love the video?Thanks Brother!😁
As a none Messi fan he deserved all 8 Ballon dors. ALL 8
2013 was so undeserving
Yeah,recency bias,that comeback from cr7Btw,can subscribe to the channel?Thanks brother!
RONALDO DESERVE 5 AS he didn’t deserve the 2013 one but deserves the 2018 one and Messi deserves 4? CR7 GOAT!!
Worldcup >>>>> 1 UCL,Ballon D'or so messi is still my GOAT and can you also subscribe if you love the video?Thanks Brother!!❤️❤️
@PP27889ronaldo is also not my goat but you did not have to be disrespectful pls respect all players and pls subscribe if you ❤ the video,thanks brother!
@PP27889Thank you so much brother!I also wish you a merry Christmas and new year to you and your family as well,if you did not have the intentions to disrespect ronaldo,why did you use 'penaldo'?😊😅
@PP27889k???sure!😊😮
This guy: Sneijder deserves it more than Messi cause treble
Also this guy: Messi didn’t deserve 2009 even though he won treble
Also people: “Ronaldo deserved 2013 even though Ribery won treble”
No,im saying messi didnt win the treble in 2009 as the ucl semis was kinds rigged and even barcelona fans agree with that,so technically,he didnt win the treble and also i said iniesta deserved it in 2010,not sneijder ,so sorry for the confusion and pls sub if you love the video,thanks brother!
@@StunTH-cam Like your efforts too man, but barcelona were proven innocent in court, ref was just horrible
@@vaporized4353Thank you so much brother!Not saying barca paid the refs,just saying if the refereeing was done properly,Chelsea would have won😊
2010- Sneijder wasn't the best player in his club and country and had worse stats than Messi, and Messi still won trophies so you can't deny that Messi won individual awards, had better stats and won trophies too, so Messi deserves
2019- this was close but Messi was the top scorer of The ucl, won the La Liga and etc. and mostly it was Messi carrying the barca team, Vvd was good but not as good as Messi, even Vvd's teammates were in the top 10 or top 5, and the ballon Dor is mostly on the league titles and individual awards, so since Messi is an attacker, Messi wins it and deserves it
2021- pretty controversial but Messi won the Copa América, was the top scorer, top assister and best player, Lewa was with a good team like Bayern Munich so it would be normal for him, his stats are better than Messi because he is a striker, not a winger, Messi has more assists and a decent amount of goals and may or may not have more G/a than Lewa, so technically, Messi wins and deserves
2023- Messi literally won the wc, best player, top assister, Laureus winner, Ligue 1 winner, leagues cup winner, motm in every single WC stage, french super cup and etc. Messi had more G/a than Haaland and Haaland ghosts in big games and it wasn't him that scored to win the Ucl final, it was Rodri, so Messi wins and deserves it
Ur a Messi fan ur obviously going to say Messi those ballon dors Messi robbed Iniesta, 2019, 2021
@@chingyminecraftgods9424 then explain, what's wrong with my explanation? And as a Messi fan, I can accept that Ronaldo is better than Messi in some aspects, but mostly, if you say that the ballon Dor is rigged, just watch golf, I've already said why Messi deserves it so you can just piss off
right
@@ErnestoOrtega-yo5fgRonaldo is better than Messi in what aspects can I know?
@@NabirMohammed-l2u heading, shot power and ucl is all I know
I think messi deserves 7. Iniesta was injured for a while in 2010, so messi deserved. In 2019 messi did it all by himself while VVD did it with prime liverpool, so not really any question there. 2021 Lewa deserved, and 2022 messi won world cup so obvi him
Hmm,ok,i respect you list but the thing is if iniesta deserves 2010,messi does in 2023,if iniesta deserves doesnt in 2010,messi also doesnt cuz they are similar scenarios and pls sub if u ❤️ the channel.Thanks Brother!
@@StunTH-camnop because Messi was the best player and in wc 2022 Iniesta not the wc best or Messi performance in 2022 is also a blon dor winning performance 16 goals and 16 assist in ligue 1 wc french cup 8 goals in UCL too in wc 7 goals and 3 assist in 2022 wc but Iniesta jest scored a goal in 2010 wc that's it I really written a paragraph for you
@@karthik20000Once again,thank you for taking your time to make this comment,this is just my opinion,even though Iniesta stats were not fabulous in the WC,we do gotta acknowledge he is a midfielder and was an integral part of that Spanish team, without him,it is highly doubted for spain to win the wc as the midfield is the department which carried spain to the world cup,not to be hater,and if you see all my vids,i am a messi fan,5/7 of his goals was pens,but on the field,he was still an integral part of Argentina like Iniesta,stats doesn't explain a victory.Plus,Iniesta won some significant league trophies too in Spain so yeah,just my opinion bro,dont take personally that im arguing with you,i respect your opinion alot too just saying thats not my view😊
@@StunTH-cam 7/4 penalties it doesn't mater he scored 7 goals and 3 assist most successful dribbles most key passes most g/a in wc 2022 best player of wc golden boot runner up wc/ligue 1/ french cup a and most g/a as haaland Iniesta is injured most of the time messi carried the barcalona and how Iniesta deservers man ya its your opinion then but logically messi is better in 2023 and 2010 know some football knowledge here trophies isn't matter performance is the matter for balon dor in 2013 ronaldo won because of performance soo and for scoring goals = golden boot performance = balon dor show some respect here and I don't care whose fan you are
@@karthik20000first of all,sry if my tone was sounding disrespectful, I did not mean that all and then,for the Ronaldo ballon d'ors,I'm working on it now,will release soon,pen goals are goals Indeed,but just tryna say stats isnt everything and in game performance is more important, that's all, even though Iniesta was injured,he was still integral for both club and country,without him spain will definitely lose the WC and although Iniesta's absence won't affect Barcelona as much,it will still make the team weaker😊😊not tryna disrespect your opinion,I just have a view,it might change overtime,but for now,it stays as it is😊😊
True!i think he deserves 2010 one though but other than that,i like ur video
Oh ok,i respect ur opinion,thanks for commenting
When you look at it, Messi has never been the best player in the world apart from 2011
Wdym,from 2009 to 2012,Messi was the most dangerous footballer and was miles clear as a player.2015,he was still the best player but only by a bit,2019,he was easily the best attacking player so idk what u talking abt.Btw,pls sub if u ❤️ the channel?Thks Bro!
I think we should just enjoy it if someone Don deserved something why will he be given?, and it dosen change the fact that messi has 8 d'or
Yeah,True,It's just my opinion!And oso,can subscribe to my channel???Thanks brotha!And sry for da late reply
bro which app u used to make this video
CAPCUT BROTHER!❤️
@@StunTH-cam thx u deserve more subscribers u deserve 1 million keep growing
@@venkateshgovindarajan1928Thanks Brother!You Too,STAY HARD!
i don’t get it their always people complain no matter what 🤦🤦🤦🤦
Sorry for the late reply
I mean I am a Messi fan if you see my other videos but just my opinion,some times the balloon dor is biased to Messi and Ronaldo as the ppl voting would fear that the media would criticise them if their fav player don't win,plus only if they win they can earn more.So,i tried to be as unbiased as possible and ofc i am not a journalist or smtg,just an ordinary fan,so yeah,just my opinion and can u sub if u love the video? Thanks brother!!❤️❤️
@@StunTH-cami dont think it’s bisssd as you think cr7 would of won the 2018 ballon dor with messi second and possibly in first van dijk only lost 5 votes in 2019 that barcelona squad wasn’t good and messi carried the entire team that’s the reason people voted for him only 2013 to me was the most biased one extendd votes and cr7 wins haaland 2022-2023 was overrated he only showed up in the premier league while his teammates carried him in the fa cup and the ucl you forgot haalsnd is goalscoer but not that great in style of play haalsnd has rordi and kdb to help him score too remember that
Fax!!!I agree even though i respect both😊
Same here!Thanks for supporting me and oks subscribe to my channel if you love the video!
U r only looking at stats and trophies it is a individual trophy not trophy for the plyer in a team who won the most
Ya,but team performance is also important cuz,it shows you how a player carried the team,if the player score like 50 goals and the team won nothing,that means it is pointless,cuz he prob scored against the pointless matches so this is my opinion and pls subscribe if you love the video, thanks brother!
@@StunTH-cam it is not pointless it shall be seen as the teamates are below par and the player is individually impeccable which is the criteria looked upon awarding individual awards team awards are more important but u cant punish a player who is carrying a team for other people deficiency on an individual awards as it is looking at an individual
@@SebanmathewTrue,but pele who didnt play in Europe but had the skills was regarded thr goat of that era,and Reus who is loyal to Dortmund stays there for so long and almost helped them win their Bundesliga
100 % you are. Wrong brother no hate in 2009 the 1st leg is also favouring Chelsea if you watched that matche even every footballers agreed but in your video you didn't said about that why brother and Messi stats is unbelievable in 2009 individually they will count successful dribbles key passes goals assist playmaking etc overall every thing right so Messi definitely win the balon dor / now you said 2010 didn't deserve right so what about Ronaldo in 2013 he didn't won any trophies in that year soo in 2010 Messi won some trophies and most goals top scorer dribbles key passes and Playmaking calculated individually right so Messi will win 100% sure no doubts and Iniesta he didn't deserve to win that because he was injured in most of the matches and the stats is looking bad to (for winning balon dor ) and he jest scored a goal in wc that's it so / now 2019 how can you even say that brother Messi carried the barcalona team to semi final laliga top scorer top assister Playmaker golden boot winner first ever player to win a golden boot and Playmaker award in a single season player records all of them were calculated you didn't mention this why individual awards also Messi has more / 2021 how lewa deserves that most g/a most Assist most dribbles key passes and almost everything Messi has lewa has goals that's it he deserves the balon dor in 2020 not in 2021 brother hope you understand and reply 😊 he deserves the 8 balon dor's never try to manipulate others
Thank you so much for taking your time to comment such a lengthy comment,I rlly appreciate it.In 2009,I didn't say Messi definitely did not deserve the ballon for,just if Chelsea wins the semis and man utd wins Chelsea,man utd would have won the treble that year,having a possibility of a player from man utd win,just a chance,cuz messi's stats were still damn good in 2009,just like you said.In 2010,like I said in the video,Messi either wins 2023/2010 ballon dor cuz they are similar situations,and are close calls so I would also agree if you said messi deserved the 2010 ballon dor.In 2019,it's definitely realllllllllllly impressive of Messi and ter stegen carrying Barcelona in their backs.If only dembele scored that sitter,screw that *****,anyways,it is difficult to compare the stats of a defender and a forward,I just believe it was one of the best PRIMEs of a defender in the history of football,so thats my opinion,but still cant blame you if you think messi deserves the award,cuz its difficult to compare.Hmm, Lewandowski actually scored 69 goals and 12 assists in 2021 while messi had 61 G/A in that year,and lewa got the golden boot too and messi's copa America is slightly more significant than lewa's trophies that year, but I think the goal stats would help Lewandowski win the ballon dors.All the ballon dors was out of close calls so I do respect your opinion as some stats are more significant from 1 person to another,Btw,just saying its just my opinion,thank you once again!!Can you also subscribe if you liked the video?Thanks Brother,I really appreciate it!
@@StunTH-cam again you are wrong lewa had 48 goals and 9 assist which means 57 g/a he had messi has 38 goals and 14 assist which is 52 g/a messi has most records most successful dribbles key passes passes playmaking like all the individual performance is messi has more even in same trophies aswal (in 2009 because barcalona has 5 trophies without ucl right and messi had a great individual performance so he and there is no if factor now barcalona win ucl so (2019 messi had a great season vvd had a better season to but coming to the points messi has won golden boot and playmaker in one season / messi has don a better job in both mid and attacking so messi is way better accept that atleast lewa didn't scored 60+ goals check his stats
@@karthik20000Idk where you got the stats from but from what I have got the stats from uefa.com,maybe try checking the stats there cuz I think it is pretty trustworthy and for 2019,you are right,Leo Messi won alot of individual awards but there is not much awards that a defender could win and won the uefa player of the year which is pretty much the uefa version of the ballon for,no hate,just my opinion!😊😊😂
@@StunTH-cam stats from calander year but your's is fake 100% 😂
@@StunTH-cam and what messi got playmaker + Golden boot enough for the balon dor 🤣
The only thing I really do not agree, and one which is just your personal opinion is the comparison between a World Cup trophy having more value than a Champions League + 2 or 3 titles with 50+ goals. I only value the World Cup slightly more than the Champions League and that is not in terms of dificulty as I actually think the Champions League is where competition and level is the highest but I value it more because it only happens once every four years. In the end the result would be the same, Haaland would and should win in 2023 and Messi would win instead of Iniesta (although that one is more controversial and there's space to argue because stats are very different from 2023)
Oh ok,i respect your opinion,thats a very detailed comment, but in my opinion,the worldcup is based on their own country's strength and they just cant buy big players if they have the money,i mean players , especially in africa do go to European countries because of money but it is more difficult to do that,plus i feel like its more fair and even as a dark horse in a world cup is kinda common unlike in the ucl,so ill say a worldcup is = to 3 ucls but i still respect ur opinion 😊
How is Haaland not being able to compete in the world cup because of his national team more fair? If anything the Champions league is where it is most fair, if you can make it there you deserve it, if you are an exceptional player you will be wanted by the best richest clubs. @@StunTH-cam
@@daviid27.Loyalty?players like reus have loyalty to their clubs so they wouldnt move there,plus,norway is a decent team,ngl,with odegaard and haaland,being worldclass ,and others being mid,its decent,but a team like norway in the ucl couldnt go to the top but in the worldcup, they could,we could expect them and root for them
@StunTH-cam honestly, he desreves the 2009 one deffinately cause of the sextuple. the refereeing error in the chelsea game might've caused barca to win, but one game cannot change a whole entire season and so many trophies.
2019, vvd is a defender, won ucl, so many tackles and clean sheets. but being one man army, losing in the semis cause of dembele and still finishing ucl top scorer is just too great. and additionaly laliga helps a lot too. vvd was great, but Messi was just better that season. In 2010 Messu=i had 60 goals but he still should not have won. And it should not have been Xavi or Iniesta, but it should be sniejder. he not only won the treble, but was one goal away from the world cup too. I love your videos STUN but this one not so much.
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2011: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
2012: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
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2014: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo)
2015: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
2016: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo)
2017: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo
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2020: Lewandowski (Covid-19)
2021: Lewandowski (Leo Messi)
2022: Karim Benzema (Karim Benzema)
2023: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
(MOST WINNERS)
Leo Messi: 6
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Lewandowski:2
Everyone Else: 1 Each
(MOST ROBBED)
Leo Messi: 2
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Covid-19: 1
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Sorry a lot for the late reply,im going through a tough phase right now,so, i think im just gonna reupload all the videos which performed badly,pretty much all of them for now,ONCE AAGAIN,THAAANK YOU SO MUCCCCH FO THE SUPPORT,AS I HAVE BEEN GETTING TOO LESS VIEWS AND IF IT WASNT FOR YOU,I WOULD HAVE GIVEN UP,THANKK YOU SO SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING ME,i am very grateful for having a fan like you,when,i overcome this period and statt uploading new videos,i will definitely reply on this comment,sry for typing such a short reply to your loooooooooooooong comment,hope you understand and please forgive me.....
@@StunTH-cam it's ok man totally fine didn't mean to critisize you all I wanted to do was prove that messi deserves 6. And the late reply is tottaly fine cause this is just 10 days I've seen people reply after 2 years
@@Nitromix_9156_trent_pls_stayYeah bro,i know you wont criticise me😊,thanks for understanding for the late reply
@@StunTH-cam haha stun u r really funny i will keep supporting you and im glad i saved u from givng up best of luck for ur hard phase of time and im sorry i understand long replies r hard to read. And m8 y r u sayin sorry? its all ok bruv
@@StunTH-cam love it m8
Only 2021 Lewa deserved it all other years messi deserved more
It's been a year since I uploaded this vid,now my views kinda changed and I feel like Messi deserves all his d'ors except for 2019 and 2010.For 2021,lewa only won the bundesliga and got the European golden boot.But Messi won the laliga and copa and his stats are not that far off so I think Messi does deserve the award so yeah,and also can subscribe to my channel??Thanks brother!!
people are gonna always complain 🤦🤦 i swear
People glaze the World Cup so hard your logic is 💩
Messi deserved
2009
2010
2011
2012
2015
2019
He didn’t deserve
2021
2023
6 ballon dors
Same for Ronaldo
He deserved
2008
2013
2014
2016
2017
2018
I mean the worldcup is the most prestigious cups of the world.The players play for their countries not for some businessmen.They have to adapt to play with other team mates,they can't be having those team mates which would give the team a great balance.Attackers would have defend more,defenders have to attack more,depending on the team.To add to it's prestige,it can only be won once in 4years.The worldcup also brings talents be noticed,like emi Martinez in 2022,James Rodriguez in 2014,it shows that any team can win it unlike the UCLs.So,Worldcup should be a humongous part of the ballon dor and also pls sub if u liked the vid!Thks Brother!❤️❤️
@ I understand what you’re saying. But it should not be the deciding factors as it’s only 10% of the season
Didn't deserve 2013 IMHO
Good Opinion,i would say messi deserved 2019, too😊😊
Hmm,Its tough to compare the stats but i respect the opinion😊😊 Subscribe to my channel if you love the channel❤️❤️☺️😍
Facts
Thank you so much for commenting and im glad that you agree with and can you subscribe to my channel if you love the video?Thanks brother!
As a Ronaldo fan,i agree😊
Hmm,ok,makes sense,but im still a messi fan
MAKES SENSE!!
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Ronaldo deserve 4 and messi deserve 5
The Ronaldo 2013??Which one do you give Messi 2009?I just said maybe,cuz only if man utd wins,the ballon dor will be diff,if Chelsea wins Messi will still be the winner,and thanks for commenting,I rlly appreciate it,can you subscribe as well?
@@StunTH-cam Ronaldo didn't deserve 2013 and Messi didn't deserve 2010,2021 and 2023
@@berserker135Yea, that's fax,for me the same just with 2009 is not a robbery but just a big WHAT IF and can you subscribe if you ❤ the video?Thanks brother!
CR7 GOAT❤
Cap!In my opinion,messi is still the goat because of his worldcup and pls subscribe if u ❤️ the video?Thanks brother!
@@StunTH-camatleast respect his opinion bro
@@official_c00lkidd I didn’t mean to disrespect him but just saying mine,it’s like a debate,if you know what I mean and also can u sub if u liked the vid?Thanks brother!
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12???Ah hell nah🤣🤣Btw,can you subscribe if you love the channel?Thanks brother!
Messi deserve 8 ballon DORS!!!!!!!!😊
Hmm,i respect your opinion but i think he deserves 4
@@StunTH-camand l think he deserves 8
@@StunTH-cam honestly, he desreves the 2009 one deffinately cause of the sextuple. the refereeing error in the chelsea game might've caused barca to win, but one game cannot change a whole entire season and so many trophies.
2019, vvd is a defender, won ucl, so many tackles and clean sheets. but being one man army, losing in the semis cause of dembele and still finishing ucl top scorer is just too great. and additionaly laliga helps a lot too. vvd was great, but Messi was just better that season. In 2010 Messu=i had 60 goals but he still should not have won. And it should not have been Xavi or Iniesta, but it should be sniejder. he not only won the treble, but was one goal away from the world cup too. I love your videos STUN but this one not so much.
(If Ballondor was fair ACTUALLY fair)
2007: Ricardo KaKa (Ricardo KaKa)
2008: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo)
2009: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
2010: Westly Sneidjer (Leo Messi)
2011: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
2012: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
2013: Franc Ribery (Crista Ronaldo)
2014: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo)
2015: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
2016: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo)
2017: Crista Ronaldo (Crista Ronaldo
2018: Luka Modric (Luka Modric)
2019: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
2020: Lewandowski (Covid-19)
2021: Lewandowski (Leo Messi)
2022: Karim Benzema (Karim Benzema)
2023: Leo Messi (Leo Messi)
(MOST WINNERS)
Leo Messi: 6
Crista Ronaldo: 4
Lewandowski:2
Everyone Else: 1 Each
(MOST ROBBED)
Leo Messi: 2
Crista Ronaldo: 1
Covid-19: 1
(MOST ROBBED ON)
LEWANDOWSKI: 2
Westly Sniedjer:1
Franc Ribery:1
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@@MikeAdriel-n9hall 8?Hmmm,even the 2021 one???and btw can you subscribe if you ❤ the video? And sry for the laaaate reply
@@Nitromix_9156_trent_pls_stayFor the 2009 one,yeah,messi deserved the award but if chelsea won and man utd won the final,cr7 should have won it,if chelsea won it,messi would Still be deserved but it's just a chance but not 100% for 2010,it depends because we have to see if we value the worldcup TROPHY or the whole tournament but im pretty sure every consider the TROPHY as the mooooore reputable one,same with 2019,but even without winning the ucl,messi can still be deserved but it's difficult to compare a defender with a forward so yeah!😊
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Messi Is The GOOOAAT!!!!
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Ok Ronaldo fan 😐
Hmmm,sure,but i am a messi fan,u can ask my friends and check my shorts,its full of messi,this is just my opinion so yeah and pls subscribe if you loved the video,thanks brother!
@@StunTH-cam bhai i think messi deserve 4
@@lucky_chaudhary687 Oh Ok, i respect your opinion but i still think he deserves 4 :)
@@StunTH-cam ok
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😂😂😂......messi fan???/imao haters spotted without know anything about ucls 2009 ist leg semi-final. ..
I uploaded this vid,kinda while ago,so now Ik that 2009 semis had unfair fouls on Barca too.Im legit a Messi fan,just wanted to go be as unbiased as possible so yeah,pls sub if u ❤️ the vid,thanks brotha!