Must admit, I don't usually watch a lot of melee video's(all the way through) . But this series with Scar is great, learning a ton of shit from it too.
As a teacher I just gotta say that Mango is a fucking incredible instructor. Perfect balance of critique and praise, relaxed and serious, concrete and abstract. Of course his brand is being a goofball, but that can mask just how damn smart the guy is.
Yeah I feel like the past year I've really started to view mango differently. I listened to all the 6-4 podcasts and it really opened my eyes to how smart and weirdly eloquent mango is.
I'm also a teacher, and I noticed the exact same thing. He's really good at giving feedback and comprehensive input. He also excellsat bringing his knowledge (which one would asume most of this is just natural stuff to him at this point) down to very basic, understandable concepts. I do think he uses too much time talking himself rather than asking scar's for how he feels about the stuff he's doing. But other than that, he's pretty damn good at coaching.
These Scar training videos have a lot of knowledge that can be transferred to things outside of Melee and even video games in general. It's dope that it seemed he played Melee at just the right age when he was still in his formative years (compared to people who begin at age 18 or so), and even though he was a poor student, it seems that he was still amassing a ton of knowledge (not specific to Melee) subconsciously.
I think Laser at most levels does the most damage when the other player hates them. They get hit by lasers and it they just give up on neutral to stop lasers from being possible.
Not gonna lie, I always thought Mango was a drunk savant at this game. It wasn't until I saw him train Scar that I realize he really analyzes the game and know his stuff.
I just started playing melee again with my friends occasionally we’re so bad at the game 😂, but it’s so fun. Melee is hard as hell; the game was really built different.
I feel like Mango is like the grandpa of the Melee community. He always tells people how it is, and he knows it from experience since he's been around so long. And then people say say "Screw you grandpa! I'm not listening to you!" But it turns out he's right and they come back and admit defeat
I was expecting to watch this and come out thinking that the matchup isn't as bad for falcon as I thought...how mango talks about it makes me realize it's even worse
This is so great content. I learn something from every video and see myself improving by keeping that in mind. I’ve got one question: is sdi needed for Falco Pillars? What was the major difference when mango showed scar how to di the shine? Angles or also sdi?
Sdi is definitely important for pillar combos. Mango was focusing more on scar's DI, or angles. You usually want to di shines away to make it harder for the falco to followup. So if you get hit by the right side of falcons shine, hold away and you'll travel the most distance away from him The mixup comes when falco can switch up what side of the shine he hits you with. If falco hits you with the left side of shine while you are holding "away" expecting the right side, now you are DIing in and he can get a follow-up. It's a bit hard to visualize, but you can use ikneedata.com/calculator to see what these angles look like. Choose falcos shine from the left side, and play with the joystick on the right to see what di's look like. SDI is more commonly used against the dair. You can sdi away from the dair, and gain enough distance where a shine doesn't connect. You can also use sdi during pillaring. Depending on your position when a falco dairs you in the air, you may want to sdi down to reach the ground before him, or sdi up to jump out
Hey Kingly, the volume on these videos is really low, I don't know if it's a stream thing or the master just needs to be turned up a bit, just saying. Good video though!
the slideoff stuff is mental, I can't believe that you can know exactly based off your stage position and your percent for every stage in every location where you are going to be able to slide off. you just understand DI trajectories at every percent so well that you can just analogue CHOOSE to get a slideoff? I could play for 10 years and never get that
@@Mac_McBride can't tell if this is a troll, but just in case your comment is genuine: once you enter hitstun you have no control over your trajectory. the only time you can choose when your character launches is when you input your DI during hitstop when an attack connects. you are tied to your parabola until you get hit again or until hitstun ends (then you can aerial drift) if hitstun ends then you wouldn't need to slide-off because you can air dodge, shine, aerial, wiggle out. to hit the platform in hitstun you have to perfectly aim your stick BEFORE YOU ARE LAUNCHED to modify the parabola with the dot product of your launch trajectory and your stick input, which entirely changes depending on your % too
@@AlexRoseGames its a good thing combos are more than 1 hit and you have plenty of time to anticipate the trajectory of the next moves. You get it a lot by accident while DI'ing combos away lol.
@@iamawin8272 spam doesn't just mean "fsmash", spam could mean "my entire game plan is to get you off stage and then downtilt you". your shortens can be on point 80% of the time and you can get uncle punched out of your mind but you will always lose to a downtilt at some point. and if marth ever manages to throw you off stage there's a 50 50 mixup where he might just kill you if he reads the airdodge or reads the low recovery
@@AlexRoseGames nothing about what I said had to do with any of what you’re saying. Those are mechanics of marth and yes he is a very good character. Nobody thinks he is not. But if you are the better player you will win That is my only point.
I can tell you're not good at melee because you think spamming anything works. Spamming only works against people who are bad at the game. Anyone who is reasonably decent at the game will not lose to spamming. There is counterplay to literally everything in the game. Also "ledge shine" isn't a thing lmao
This has been the best Mang0 content by far. I always look forward to these sessions with Scar
mang can we pls get a playlist of you working with the most electrifying man in melee?
Same
No lie one of these vids of these really helped me out too
Must admit, I don't usually watch a lot of melee video's(all the way through)
. But this series with Scar is great, learning a ton of shit from it too.
Cant wait to play melee again Big love to all. Especially mango and Scar.
As a teacher I just gotta say that Mango is a fucking incredible instructor. Perfect balance of critique and praise, relaxed and serious, concrete and abstract. Of course his brand is being a goofball, but that can mask just how damn smart the guy is.
He’s the goat
Yeah I feel like the past year I've really started to view mango differently. I listened to all the 6-4 podcasts and it really opened my eyes to how smart and weirdly eloquent mango is.
The natural
I'm also a teacher, and I noticed the exact same thing. He's really good at giving feedback and comprehensive input. He also excellsat bringing his knowledge (which one would asume most of this is just natural stuff to him at this point) down to very basic, understandable concepts. I do think he uses too much time talking himself rather than asking scar's for how he feels about the stuff he's doing. But other than that, he's pretty damn good at coaching.
@@Supertaldo916 totally agree
The sexiest man on Twitch. Surprised I didn't need to sign in to confirm my age to watch this explicit channel.
Especially since you are watching such a dangerous man.
this comment hits different after the tempban
The scar guy is pretty good. If he played in the old days I feel like he could’ve gotten top 8 at genesis
Maybe even 5th place...
These sessions are very profound for him and if he continues he will make top 100
These Scar training videos have a lot of knowledge that can be transferred to things outside of Melee and even video games in general.
It's dope that it seemed he played Melee at just the right age when he was still in his formative years (compared to people who begin at age 18 or so), and even though he was a poor student, it seems that he was still amassing a ton of knowledge (not specific to Melee) subconsciously.
“Norwalk wasn’t built in one day”.
mango should host another tournament and call it the Coliseum
Nair the falco should be a new Uncle Punch mod
The year is 20XX, the roar of the crowd is deafening as Bobby Scar eliminates Hbox to make it out of pools.
I think Laser at most levels does the most damage when the other player hates them. They get hit by lasers and it they just give up on neutral to stop lasers from being possible.
4:42 Scar using the stuff from the last lesson!!
Good shout
Mango out here training the next generation of falcons.... for free. What a legend of melee
The next generation? Scar is a relic.
@@Iggimus21 he means future Falcons can look at these videos for tips from the goat himself
This series is a serious power up to every Falcon player out there.
@@Iggimus21 literally every falcon main i know has watched every scar/mango stream. as a samus main...it’s scary as fuck lol
Not gonna lie, I always thought Mango was a drunk savant at this game. It wasn't until I saw him train Scar that I realize he really analyzes the game and know his stuff.
I really wanna see scar get top 8 at a netplay tourney
I just started playing melee again with my friends occasionally we’re so bad at the game 😂, but it’s so fun. Melee is hard as hell; the game was really built different.
I feel like Mango is like the grandpa of the Melee community. He always tells people how it is, and he knows it from experience since he's been around so long. And then people say say "Screw you grandpa! I'm not listening to you!" But it turns out he's right and they come back and admit defeat
Grandpa is Fu¢king cracked lmao
@@BHZZRD hey man if my grandpa brings out the Gamecube and starts whooping my ass in Melee my respect for him would skyrocket
I’ll be honest I used to think mango was just kind of a douche but his videos lately and him training scar has made me respect mango a lot more.
This is my favorite series on youtube rn. It's so cool seeing scar get better.
7:59 the way mango breaks down math makes sense to me
Someday the people’s champ will finically become his own champ
Mang0 is like the Berrics of melee xD amazing teacher making legends
This is my favorite content on the channel by FAR. Fucking love Mang0 and Scar
I got chills at 7:16. I felt like I just saw someone win a tournament arc
Can you even call yourself a real melee fan if you don’t want to see the peoples champ return to the top 100?
This is my favorite melee content rn
Love coach Mang. This shit is gold
Just put scar emote in the thumbnail anywhere and it’s an instaclick
Mang0 is my favorite former twitch streamer!
former?
@@Rael0505 banned for three days on twitch for being sexy
@@bcan5512 oh yes ♥️
@@Rael0505 in actuality, he hip thrusted an anime figure lol
Is it just me or is Mango low key the best coach?
Holy shit, I love this real time analysis. Coach Mang0 is fucking badass
Isn't there some sort of UnclePunch DI practice?
Goated content from the GOAT
I was expecting to watch this and come out thinking that the matchup isn't as bad for falcon as I thought...how mango talks about it makes me realize it's even worse
This is so great content. I learn something from every video and see myself improving by keeping that in mind. I’ve got one question: is sdi needed for Falco Pillars? What was the major difference when mango showed scar how to di the shine? Angles or also sdi?
Sdi is definitely important for pillar combos. Mango was focusing more on scar's DI, or angles. You usually want to di shines away to make it harder for the falco to followup. So if you get hit by the right side of falcons shine, hold away and you'll travel the most distance away from him
The mixup comes when falco can switch up what side of the shine he hits you with. If falco hits you with the left side of shine while you are holding "away" expecting the right side, now you are DIing in and he can get a follow-up. It's a bit hard to visualize, but you can use ikneedata.com/calculator to see what these angles look like. Choose falcos shine from the left side, and play with the joystick on the right to see what di's look like.
SDI is more commonly used against the dair. You can sdi away from the dair, and gain enough distance where a shine doesn't connect. You can also use sdi during pillaring. Depending on your position when a falco dairs you in the air, you may want to sdi down to reach the ground before him, or sdi up to jump out
Hey Kingly, the volume on these videos is really low, I don't know if it's a stream thing or the master just needs to be turned up a bit, just saying. Good video though!
mango coaching scar to top 100 has become my favorite saga
these videos are insightful and rofl we do math the same way. I did the 9+7 outloud to and then mang said and I was like no shit?
loving this series
Within all of us, there are two Falco's
Guys... the key to beat falco lasers... Just jab... it throws all falcos off. shush though its a secret.
Take laser jab is some dark voodoo magic secret tech
@@itsyaboi1245 really is.
scar sounds like kristofferson in fantastic mr fox
He needs to do this with a Falco player next
Coach Mang0 is the man we should all try to be
Loving these videos
Amazing content right here
I'm digging professor mango content.
Glazed Porkchops
love these vids with scar
i just want to get good enough to be noticed
good luck to scar!
Love these
Incredible content
Scar can do it i believe... broken by n0ne and build up by mango.
Why is the audio been wack past 2 uploads?
This content got me to subscribe to Mango
Goat
the slideoff stuff is mental, I can't believe that you can know exactly based off your stage position and your percent for every stage in every location where you are going to be able to slide off. you just understand DI trajectories at every percent so well that you can just analogue CHOOSE to get a slideoff? I could play for 10 years and never get that
I mean, he’s been playing for well over 10 years lol
Its not that complicated lol. Just aim your stick at edges of platforms.
dude has been playing at the highest level of competition for over 10 years... he's played pretty much every scenario 100+ times easy lol.
@@Mac_McBride can't tell if this is a troll, but just in case your comment is genuine: once you enter hitstun you have no control over your trajectory. the only time you can choose when your character launches is when you input your DI during hitstop when an attack connects. you are tied to your parabola until you get hit again or until hitstun ends (then you can aerial drift)
if hitstun ends then you wouldn't need to slide-off because you can air dodge, shine, aerial, wiggle out. to hit the platform in hitstun you have to perfectly aim your stick BEFORE YOU ARE LAUNCHED to modify the parabola with the dot product of your launch trajectory and your stick input, which entirely changes depending on your % too
@@AlexRoseGames its a good thing combos are more than 1 hit and you have plenty of time to anticipate the trajectory of the next moves. You get it a lot by accident while DI'ing combos away lol.
Anyone know how mang0 plays melee online, is it with slippi?
Yes. Nowadays pretty much all online melee is on slippi.
There are multiple tutorials on youtube about how to set up slippi to play melee online. Just search for it!
i love these scare vids cuz im old
Yessir I agree
PeoplesChamp
Scar top 100 incoming
Rip
Why is this video so damn quiet???
its too quiet
so fast
Fox / Marth is overrated tbh. The issue is just Zain's playstyle, not Marth himself.
did you comment on the wrong video or what
@@Forthelemon oh shit i did lmao
Lets be real, most people are not good at smash, they're good at laser spam, ledge shine, and marth spam.
Lul if marth spam beats you that just means you dont know to shield / hold down, it's ez to counter
@Venusaurxl Who cares marth may be easy but if marth is spamming and you lose to it you’re probably just bad. he’s right dude
@@iamawin8272 spam doesn't just mean "fsmash", spam could mean "my entire game plan is to get you off stage and then downtilt you". your shortens can be on point 80% of the time and you can get uncle punched out of your mind but you will always lose to a downtilt at some point. and if marth ever manages to throw you off stage there's a 50 50 mixup where he might just kill you if he reads the airdodge or reads the low recovery
@@AlexRoseGames nothing about what I said had to do with any of what you’re saying. Those are mechanics of marth and yes he is a very good character. Nobody thinks he is not. But if you are the better player you will win That is my only point.
I can tell you're not good at melee because you think spamming anything works. Spamming only works against people who are bad at the game. Anyone who is reasonably decent at the game will not lose to spamming. There is counterplay to literally everything in the game. Also "ledge shine" isn't a thing lmao
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Johnny talks a lot of trash for someone who can’t make top 10 in the world.
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