Bose S1Pro Pair With a Pair of Bose Sub1 Subwoofers -Review Bluetooth, Battery Operated Portable PA
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Bose really hit it out of the park with the S1Pro! In some ways it bests all their other products. Super small, 15 pounds, battery operated, Bluetooth, excellent fidelity/output for its size, pole mountable.Pairing two wirelessly in stereo brings it to the next level. Now with the matching Sub1 it becomes a true full range system at its volume limitations. Bose if you are listening we need: S1Pro App needs full 10 band EQ. Sub1 should have full Bluetooth control of volume/mute. Oh yeah Sub1 needs to be battery operated!
Just confirming- you're saying that this sub is NOT battery operated? Thanks!
@@johnandrewmusics No subwoofers on the market are battery operated. I run a Sub1 on external battery power but you need at least 500watts.
Since I'm getting a lot of views on the S1Pro combinations, I've decided to do a more thorough comparison of dB levels with one S1Pro, 2xS1Pros, 1Sub1, 21xSub2s. Should be done in one to two weeks. Keep heads up looking for it.
Forgot to mention, If you push the subs less than 2 feet from a wall will boost SPL by +3dB. Also want to emphasize the great Bose Connect App which runs the two S1Pros in true L/R stereo, wirelessly.
Hi What Power Pack is that and what is it powering, Thanks
EcoFlow Pro 600 watts, powering the two Bose Sub1's. The S1Pro's have their own internal battery. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08T1KY8SG/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=AH59O987TZWZR&psc=1 The battery pack in the video is not made anymore. The Ecoflow is much more powerful and not a lot more $$$.
Hello! I am interested in the Pro s1 but the Bose website says it is not compatible with an external subwoofer. In the Q&A it says "Can I connect an external subwoofer, such as the Bose B1 bass module, to the S1 Pro multi-position PA system?" Answer from Bose: "No. The system does not support adding bass modules. However, the S1 Pro does provide a reasonable amount of bass from its integrated high excursion woofer." Can someone explain?
When you hook up ANY stand alone subwoofer you will realize how lacking the bass is on the S1Pro! You can not hook up a B1/B2 module without adding an external amp which gets expensive. Don't do it. Any powered subwoofer works great with S1Pro. Bose new Sub1 is the best match. If you want to know other options let me know.
Outstanding review. Thank you!!
Much appreciated! Thanks for your feedback.
I’m new to this, in order for me to connect my S1 Pro to Sub1 is a Trs to Trs cable or Trs to XRL cable??
Both will work equally as well. Sound wise no difference. I personally use TRS to XLR. I like the more secure XLR connection into the sub.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks for the quick replay.
How would it sound if you had the S1 pros paired in stereo mode (via Bose app) and each S1 pro tethered to it's own separate Sub1?
That would sound great! The downside , you get a 3db boost when you put the subs together.
Bjr, Avez-vous testé les BOSE S1 Pro avec VELODYNE MICROVEE ???
I have heard the Velodyne Microvee. Incredible little box! No, I have not heard it with the S1Pro but it would work fine. Of course it is not a live sound subwoofer so it won’t keep up with the max 109 dB of the Bose.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz J’ai 2 S1 Pro et je pense acheter le Sub 2 pour mixer avec le contrôleur Reloop Buddy pour mes prestations DJ’s… Regards !
Et merci pour vos tests !!!👍
have you run these on cardioid mode?
No, never tried cardioid mode. I returned one Sub1 so I don't have the pair anymore. I figured since I have a Sub2 I would never need a pair of Sub1s.
I have the exact same set up and cardioid mode is not supported with the S1's. I confirmed it with tech support from Bose. ☹
@@ifuknh8urass Surprising, are you saying the Sub1s are not capable of cardioid mode?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Cardioid is not compatible with the S1 Pro speakers. Only the line array speakers.
@@ifuknh8urass this video (from Bose!) says cardioid mode is compatible with any system. Check at 5min. th-cam.com/video/kQ4Pon0DLcs/w-d-xo.html
Can you please improve your mic to improved your voice quality since you are more talking than to play the sounds of the product?
Hello great video! what type of cable did you use to connect s1 pro to sub1? I am trying to connect two Bose s1 pro with one sub 1. thank you
Glad you liked the video. 1/4" to 1/4" TRS or 1/4" TRS to XLR www.amazon.com/TISINO-6-35mm-Stereo-Balanced-Interconnect/dp/B07SQ2KSR3/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_rp_c_sccl_3/139-5955984-5736004?pd_rd_w=f7h4U&pf_rd_p=961484e4-9800-4359-8d69-ee5560f2fd47&pf_rd_r=5S56T0E00F05X2V58HMG&pd_rd_r=55995dd4-cf2a-4698-9cb4-ca4abc9a4aae&pd_rd_wg=IJv2G&pd_rd_i=B07SQ2KSR3&psc=1 or my favorite www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L8BM15Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
but, If you run it through the speaker first, you’re not cutting a little wins and taking a load off the S1’s
The advantage of using two S1 Pros: For mid-high frequencies we get +3dB every time we double the number of drivers. One S1Pro max output is109dB, two S1Pros 112dB max SPL output.
How long will this power source power the subs?
@@Codyandsoul Never tested but estimating 2.5 - 3 hours at medium volume say 85dB. Higher volumes 90dB+ will cut run time in half. For not much more money I am now using Ecoflow Pro 600 watts www.amazon.com/dp/B08T1KY8SG/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B08T1KY8SG&pd_rd_w=6U7eu&pf_rd_p=57cbdc41-b731-4e3d-aca7-49078b13a07b&pd_rd_wg=jrL7u&pf_rd_r=JSVDB2472R33M37ZZS72&pd_rd_r=e603add7-7189-4057-a75a-646e3c25457c&s=hi&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExNDVBVUhQM0VKMlVCJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjU1NTk3M1Y1RzQwQ1kwM1E5JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3NTQ3NTQxWjJKN0MxVUJHTExaJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
I have requested on a Bose forum that the S1 Pro has a High Pass Filter (HPF) on the phone app to match the Low Pass Filter button ( LPF) button on the Sub 1. This way the Sub 1 can take the low end power demands off the S1 pro, batteries will last longer, and sound is clearer in the low to mid range. This would make the S1 Pro / Sub 1 combo even more amazing in flexibility and sound quality.
I hope through firmware updates Bose can improve the Pro line, great idea!
That would be amazing. Looking forward to hearing Bose’s reply!
Very nice. I have already came to the conclusion that I will have to pay for Bose for sure but it is worth it to me. I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos.
Thank you. No denying Bose systems are $$, but there are certain advantages that other companies can't match.
I totally agree 💯
Bose s1Pro Bluetooth Implementation plagued with EQ issues especially on very bass-centric music. Check the forums. Does the use of the sub1 correct this. If you don't know the problem you should investigate
Thanks for the heads up. I've never experienced this problem so can't tell you if Sub1 corrects problem.
I have 2 "S1 Pro's" that I want to have in my living room. We love super loud music in our household. The music we listen to has alot of bass. So I was thinking of getting 2 "Sub 2s" to place my "S1 Pro's" on them using the Bose speaker pole. I want 2 uniform sets for left and right. I figure it would look weird to have just one "S1 Pro" sitting on a "Sub 2" and the other one on some tripod pole like the setup in your video. I also noticed you mentioned that the "Sub 1's" work best when next to eachother and that having 2 apart defeats the purpose. Will you recommend 2 "Sub 1's" over 2 "Sub 2's" using the "S1 Pro's" ? Will 2 "Sub 2's" really be an overkill?
We have similar taste in home music listening, loud with heavy bass! If you don't mind the size or price 2 Sub2s would be the ultimate set up. Remember the Sub2 is a live sound subwoofer. It is tuned differently than a home Hi-fi subwoofer. One Sub2 will shake your walls! Two Sub2s in a home would probably be a waste of money - overkill. 2 Sub2s cost $2,400. For $1,500 you can get a single QSC KS118 which would be in a different league than the Bose Sub2. QSC is heavy at 100+lbs and now you would need speaker stands that look funny in the home. 2 Sub1s = the output of 1 Sub2. But you lose that super low end 37Hz extension. If you are planning on also playing movies you want that low end extension. Since you would be separating the subs you will lose the +3dB coupling affect. Even separated 2 Sub1s should be plenty for a music system only. Also depends on size of the room. In my large bedroom 1 Sub1 at 11:00 is as high as I can go. In large living room Sub2 is needed to shake walls. Better sub pole than Bose pole www.guitarcenter.com/On-Stage/Speaker-Sub-Pole-With-M20-Thread.gc?rNtt=sub%20pole%2020mm&index=1
do you do the sub eq in each s1?
Yes
Wich portable battery use. ???
Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/gfNxPJVRmqo/w-d-xo.html
Hello there, I recently purchased 2 S1pro and 1 Sub1. One day I used bluetooth on one speaker and wired the second speaker from the first one with bluetooth because I don't want to depend on the Bose app to use both speakers. I noticed the wired speaker was producing louder and better sound than the one via bluetooth. Any idea why this was happening? Also is it better to go through bass fist then speaker or vice versa? And last any suggestions for a power station to juice up the Sub1? Thank you.
Not sure why one is louder than the other, but I do find the same thing when both are using the App. To get the best sound/headroom Bose recommends going through the sub first but you will lose Bluetooth. I run the Sub1 on a 400 watt power station - Expert Power 400. On two occasions playing heavy bass tracks at max volume the Sub1 shut down. If I had to do it again I would look for 500+ watts.
Power Station I use www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CYMCLDN/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_8?smid=ATW4RRWB3JMSM&th=1
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thank you so much.
Did you use the phase setting on the subs? + -
It looks like they’re both on the same polarity.
Both on positive
I think one needs to be + and the other - to achieve cardioid mode...
Does anyone know if its possible to make a subwoofer using Bose Sub1 into the TX312 ALTO PA speaker...just wanted to get an insight for those who are familiar with this...Thanks
Hi Mr Weiss can you please make a video showing how you connect your S Pro1 to your Sub2 and the wire you used.
If you want a Bluetooth setup like I am demonstrating it is a simple one cable setup. From the Line Out of S1pro use a 1/4" TRS cable to 1/4" TRS into Line In 1 on the Sub2. For a more secure connection you can use 1/4" TRS from S1Pro Line Out to Male XLR into Line1 Sub2. These are balanced cables- DO NOT USE standard guitar cable which has only one black hash mark. You will lose 6dB of output from the S1. www.amazon.com/dp/B07SQ2KSR3?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details or www.amazon.com/dp/B07L8BM15Z/ref=syn_sd_onsite_desktop_192?uh_it=6e9e4a0e0fd2e3d563fa5ed7d050bf84_CT&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExNUFOUjYxS1IyM05QJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTIyNDEwMUlXSEI2QzVNRlkwTSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTU4MTM1M1JQQzVaTjRMVDJEWSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNkX29uc2l0ZV9kZXNrdG9wJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1 I like 15 feet cables for other uses but you can use much shorter.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz just wanted to say thanks for your advice it works .
@@deejohn4026 Bet it sounds good!
@@deejohn4026 Sounds good, doesn't it!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz yes it sounds great, I am planning to buy another S1 pro.
Are your subs running in mono from the one connection from the left hand S1 PRO? Wouldn't you need to connect another lead to run the subs in stereo? I realise that stereo signal isn't really perceived below say 200Hz, but might you not lose some signal in certain tracks?
I don't believe there will be any difference running in stereo.
This is so cool! Do you think this going to be on par with two L1 Pro 16? Coz I've read in one of the Bose forums that L1 pro 16 subwoofer is similar to the Sub 1.
Glad you liked the video. One Pro16 is far superior in sound quality than two S1Pros! You are right the Pro16 bass output is equal to a single Sub1. Two Sub1's equal a Sub2. So in this set up two Pro16s will equal the bass of two Sub1's but have much greater clarity, throw and max SPL.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Good to know. Thank you for responding. I’ve been binge watching your videos man! Lovin your videos so far. Kudos!
I don’t get these reviews. Why are you testing these in a house to demonstrate how they will work in a real life setting. Perfect if you want to go deaf for use in your house. Proves nothing for how far they throw. Or does the sound drop off drastically? How do they perform with live instruments, vocals?
The purpose of these videos is for one reason: I am speaking to the new buyer of PA's who are facing endless choices to spend their limited money. I have a lot of gear and I wish I had someone who gave me advice which gear to skip. Maybe you haven't seen all the videos but I have tested outside. I agree testing in the house is not ideal but it is evident how one speaker compared to another distorts at volume. I am an audiophile and a musician. For keyboards when comparing two speakers it is very evident in a home situation at low to medium volume which speaker has better signal quality. In the case of the Bose S1 Pro in the home I was able to see its max output before clipping compared to another speaker with greater headroom. I play live music and backing tracks. My application for these micro systems is mainly playing backing tracks for small situations. In that situation playing for 50 people or so, the throw of a speaker doesn't really come into play. When playing live drums to larger audiences I would not use any of the systems I have demoed. I have a large RCF system with multiple subwoofers. Thanks for your feedback.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Interesting, I was curious since you posted about the L1 Pro 32 and stated, correct me if I’m wrong you won’t be moving out the house again.
As for tracks, unless your playing live with a partial pre recorded track mono does not cut it with L1 systems. Your tracks will sound muddy and the high frequency detail is canceled out.
Stereo is the only way for that application. I thought about adding these to my S1 Pros. Not worth it for me. Might as well invest in the F1 812 and be done. Less gear not much more weight to lug and lower setup time.
@@ronedwards8239 I think I didn't make myself clear. I said after that one test I didn't want to drag the heavy Sub2 outside because I do a lot of playing at parks. Of course if it was an outside gig I would definitely bring it. Since that video I bought a Sub1 that is a super portable rig with the Pro32.
As far as backing tracks I couldn't agree with you more, stereo is the way to go! I am not a DJ. Buying a second Pro32 is too expensive. Instead what I do is, I line out from the Pro32 to an EV30. I'm running Bluetooth so no mixer is involved. I realize they are both playing the same mono signal but I like being immersed in sound coming from the left and right. It sounds great! The EV at a much lower price actually adds some crisp high end missing from the Pro32.
Would you recommend sub 2's with the s1 pro's? Instead of the sub 1's?
If you want the ultimate low end performance and don't mind the extra cost, bulk or weight than one Sub2 is the way to go. Sub2 plays much louder and has extra low extension to 37 hZ which is great for drums, bass guitar, playing outside or DJs . Two Sub2s would be overkill for S1Pros. Tell me your application and I can give you a better answer. Have you seen this video? th-cam.com/video/gldnIZV7hjA/w-d-xo.html
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I have seen that video thank you..I have 2 "S1 Pro's" that I want to have in my living room. We love super loud music in our household. The music we listen to has alot of bass. So I was thinking of getting 2 "Sub 2s" to place my "S1 Pro's" on them using the Bose speaker pole. I want 2 uniform sets for left and right. I figure it would look weird to have just one "S1 Pro" sitting on a "Sub 2" and the other one on some tripod pole like the setup in your video. I also noticed you mentioned that the "Sub 1's" work best when next to eachother and that having 2 apart defeats the purpose. Will you recommend 2 "Sub 1's" over 2 "Sub 2's" using the "S1 Pro's" ? Will 2 "Sub 2's" really be an overkill?
Hi and thank you for the videos. I can’t get the power pack you use. It’s unavailable on every site. Have you another suggestion on power packs just to run 1 sub one with the S1 pro please? Also how long with the generator last running one of these. Thanks again. 👍🏽
Never tested it longer than an hour. Expert Power has 5 power bars. At 95-100dB it goes down one bar. Should be good for 5 hours. Power is related to volume. 100dB+ maybe only 4 hours. 80dB maybe max 10 hours. Another Amazon Power Station the Jackery Explorer 500. It is more powerful at 500 watts and more expensive at $500. It ran a similar Bose L1M2/2B1 for 11 hours! Wouldn't be surprised if the Expert Power goes 9-10 hours. Maybe more? Be aware the Jackery has only one AC input. I see it is current on Amazon? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CYMCLDN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATW4RRWB3JMSM&psc=1