One additional note on the shard: Once you have your level 15 talent, Friendly Shadow grants your teammate the 30% damage reduction as well, making it a good save tool even if the enemy has detection.
I'm a Master Tier Bounty Hunter and he is my most played hero so things I like to do with him are: 1. If your team needs help staying alive - specifically your carry - the level 15 talent works with the shard shadow walk, so you can make them more tanky. 2. Building small items first to consistently gain tiny power spikes that will help harass heroes going for bigger items - Orb of Corrosion, Tranquil Boots, Falcon Blade, Magic Wand, Urn of Shadows. 3. If you are trying to be annoying but find that the enemy team has loaded on dusts and sentries and are sticking together to pick you off, don't try to force anything because your presence is already doing enough. If they need to invest that much and have to sacrifice space to feel safe against you, don't give them a kill on you because then it'll be justified. If your teammates are pinging and flaming you to go scout when you know you'll get caught, mute and ignore. 4. If you had a great laning stage - offlaner is ahead and can pressure - then it's time for the "piss the enemy off" build. After small items like Orb of Corrosion and Falcon Blade so you can still do your job, it's time to rush Aghanim's Scepter with Track Kills being your main source for gold. Then move on to Aether Lens, and finally Octarine Core. You will never have to be in danger during team fights, you can track and steal gold further away from enemies, and the level 10 talent of +30 Jinada Damage is now applied to Shuriken Toss. If you have more time and gold you can build Khanda and have the most fun you've ever had in Dota 2. Spamming Shuriken Tosses and constantly hearing *ching* *ching* *ching* while the enemy team can do nothing about it because you're so far away is hilarious. If you can get a neutral item like Eye of the Vizier, Psychic Headband, or Telescope it's just got even more fun. That's when you start spamming voice lines as well: "They'll tell tales of this!" "Stings, don't it?" This build literally transforms you from a pos 4 support to a hard carry with highest damage in the game and the enemy team will be so tilted they will invest into literally dispelling Track or breaking Shuriken Toss. 5. For standard games that don't involve snowballing, targetable support items is the way to go. Lotus Orb, Linkens Sphere, Force Staff, Glimmer Cape, Heaven's Halberd, Eul's Scepter - these items allow to hover around the fight and stay alive so you can apply Track to any and all targets - you are not a damage dealer on your own like Witch Doctor or Snapfire, your contribution is mainly from Track, so you need to make sure that you apply it as much as possible and ensure your teammates can capitalize on it using your SUPPORT items. 6. I find a lot of people forget that Lotus Orb is a Basic Dispel and thus can get rid of Dust of Appearance. It's a great item to not only have for your team but to allow you to scout, be annoying, and stay alive if/when you get caught. 7. Always pick the Through and Through facet - Cutpurse if for noobs. 8. Bounty Hunter excels at harassing melee carries in lane once you hit Level 6. Track the carry when they are trying to get lane creeps, Shuriken Toss a creep near them so they get hit twice, and watch as their health melts away and suddenly they don't feel safe anymore. Bounty Hunter can be a brutal pos 4 to deal with when the opposing hard carry just wants to farm alone.
But dust now have lingering aoe, we need force staff to go outside of dust aoe and then use the dispel using lotus or eul. But overall nice tips to share.
I've been spamming BH to low Divine. I'm gonna say this is the most fun pos 4 i've had. First and foremost 1. BH support is the ultimate +1 hero. You don't really do anything big on your own (aside from hunting couriers). You can have a noticeable impact early, but your best play will always be +1 for your cores. It can be ganks, scouting supps, or even providing the correct support items. 2. Your primary strength you are annoying af to deal with early, and source of extra gold for your team (track bonus for cores or earlier/better support items). 3. The fact you don't have big spells, your entire gameplay relies on how good your macro game sense is. Scouting, dodging sentries, proper items, positioning. It really sharpens game sense, which is why i really like BH supp. some personal tips: 1. pregame scouting and courier sniping is the best thing you can do early game 2. pregame scout > keep in mind your team's overall fb power. Don't bait your team for unwinnable fb encounters 3. Personally, i always leave lane at minute 5 (moreso if it's a losing lane). Abuse the night time and go for ganks at mid or safelane. Every minute from 5 to 10 there's objectives to contest for (bounties, runes, wisdoms, or even kills) 4. start with a stick if you expect heavy trading, or wind lace for extra ms. I only start with venom if i know my partner could abuse the extra slow, otherwise your enemy will just dodge you and you don't get to benefit fully from venom. 5. Recognize the state of every lane. Maybe your mid needs a little help to start snowballing. Maybe you offlane is just losing and need to recover from solo xp/stack. Maybe you need to relieve early pressure at safelane. 6. Using track is counterintuitive. If you are actually ganking, you want to hold Track until the last second. If you know you won't engage further, just spam it. 7. NEVER SHOW UP IN LANE. Stay hidden from vision and you will always appear at your opponents head. The only acceptable time to show up in lane is either post ganking, resetting lane / wave clearing, or actually baiting the enemy. 8. Always get the Through and Through facet, and always mind where you throw shuriken to bounce. It has the potential to turnaround early fights. For item builds, i pretty much agree with adrian. Aside from boots, there are no fixed builds. A. tranquil into bearing boots (most common cases) B. arcane into greaves (i rarely buy these bcs they falloff hard) C. brown boots into orchid/nulli (extra aggresive against certain heroes) - Vessel is always a nice item and bh has great synergy with it. Personally, it's either a "vessel 1st item" game or no vessel at all. - Aghanim is bait. The only time i get it is when its already a total stomp or just meme build. Your enemy will dodge you if you are ahead and if they're ahead, you need more support items anyway. -consider getting BKB or become aura carrier. Sometimes you have to be in the center of fights instead of sidelines. Lastly, your goal is to end the game early while your team is ahead of gold. In a super late game, your track bonus won't be pronounced as much and supports/cores with better skills with out scale you.
15 talent works with shard, can make teammate tanky af if they stay invis. The annoying part of shard is that it cancels the auto-attack of your ally, and if they are not aware that they're invi they can afk for 1-2 secs XD
Been using this strategy for so long (hours on BH support), however you can indeed spend all game to annoy/tilt your enemies (very fun) but you'll be flamed in exchange for being useless and a walking ward (scout). I also want to point out that Track don't just give vision but also gives gold (if the enemy dies) or just pick the innate idk and because of that you may have the potential to transition into a damage dealer with items to pick off supports at the back and potentially go toe on toe with their cores, which basically makes BH special as a support hero that lacks any stuns or disables. This hero is ultimately up there with Techies and Nyx as viable troll (annoying) heroes in rank.
I spamed a lot of bounty recently and found out some of the things he mentioned. Like going greenboots, drums, vlads etc. Im not sure the other facet is as bad as the pickrate suggests. The psychological effect of the gold steal sound during lane for every shuriken can be funny and later on you actually steal more gold with the bouncing shurikens.
Agh's shard also reduces shadow walk cooldown by 5 seconds, or 33% at max level, which is pretty huge, but the devs forgot to mention it in the text in typical dota2 fashion
It's really good video, in my rank (archon) I had a hard time using BH because all I think is fight, and it's really bad fighting hero early game, and most likely had jinada lv1, turned out it's bad approach 😁
Yesterday I had a 1h match with bounty, and shortly before I reached lv 25 I got an aghs from rosh, so that made the shuriken talent much more favorable in that situation
3:29 this is an Archaic mechanic back when teams only have 1 courier and probably should have been patched already ever since everyone got free couriers.
I abuse him in arcade 12v12. No one wants to fight or buy wards. But if you go BH and track everyone, you have no problem. Buy wards and sentries and do not invade the enemy. Let them come to you
no jinada cd is great if your a match where you shift from a support to a semi core with a bkb where bkb and whatever else you've bought is enough for you to survive in melee if the enemy can blow you up in close range shuriken damage is good when you need to stay on the outer radius of fights
im surprised not more people are playing gondar rn in our games its max fighting and thats what he loves more than anything else i always go for Tranq>Phyl>Drum>Pipe>BoB>Dagon and its so disgusting how good it is double aura for your teammates and you have plenty of dmg to finish of a support i think im 6-1 with him
the aghs shard isnt trash it also applies the 30% less damage taken and has a decent range. so you could use it to give a ally shadow walk to intiate or use it on a stunned ally to give them invis and reduced the damage they take significantly. it can even be used on a leshrac with damage reduction pulse nova so the leshrac can soak over double the amount of damage. why dont players buy it if its good.. simple the alternatives are just better bh doesnt get alot of farm so he buys high value small items like drum urn forcestaff ghost scepter medallion euls which are just really good if these items get nerfed bh players will buy shard the easiest way to see its value is to compare it to a glimmer cape ie enemies throw a stun at your core would you rather; 1 spend 90 mana to put a 300magic shield with 40 movespeed and .5second fade invis for 5 seconds at 600range 2 spend 50 mana to apply 30% damage resist .25 second fade invis for 35seconds at 650 range while the mana shield movespeed and ability to cast spells then return to invis are all quite good especially early game mid game and end game the shadowalk is alot better alternative
I disagree, max shadow walk give more option for positioning and scouting early on and make snowball the game faster, much easier for double stunning to help secure kill more effectively especially early game.
It requires your core capable to 1 v 2 lane. Technically your core carrying hard or both enemies idiots can't even owning of 2 v 1 while you being useless feeling useful.
I have always played bounty as a mid lane. When you get solo xp and gold, the proper items ( satanic, deso, aghs, threads, daedalus ) and hit the 25 talent for no cooldown on your jinada, its pretty much GG
I'm having an identity crisis; been struggling with mine and would like a nail in the coffin with confidence of what heros I have on my grid and why. My previous criteria was "I should have a hero grid for all roles up to 4 heros per role that do different things." For the offlane, I have a Jump hero in CK, an area control + big team fight ultimate in Sand king, one man-fighter in LC and Axe as a second jump hero. In the carry role, I have PA as a jump hero, Luna as a big team fight ultimate, Troll as a man fight hero and Jug as a hero that has a big spell but is also useful outside of it's CD. Then my criteria changed to match my team's pace because I seemed to be consistently off pace compared to my teammates in solo que. If I found that they had big ultimates and I'm playing offlane, I'd pick Sand king just so our team fight pace matches up. Respectively, if they are fast paced heros like Huskar, Tiny, Bristle back, Orge and Drow, I could play PA and if we were already winning I would go Deso into BKB because my ultimate doesn't have a cool down and thus I could fight as often as the enemy respawns and only using BKB in an emergency. Now I'm getting enough game knowledge that the next criteria is to match critical mass with my team. Phantom Lancer is a lvl 25 hero needing many items and levels before hard committing to fights, where as Troll only needs level 20 with a battle fury/mjolnir, BKB, and one DPS item because at level 15 with both he still hits like wet paper regardless if you BKB+R at the beginning of a fight. PA can be as fast as a level 10 hero only needing the Dagger CD if their allies provide a silence and they have no dispell, but is usually a level 15 hero needing the extra evasion talent and BKB to pair it with. I would really appreciate it if you humor me by either commenting if this isn't something you'd pursue. Thanks again for the amazing content!
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One additional note on the shard: Once you have your level 15 talent, Friendly Shadow grants your teammate the 30% damage reduction as well, making it a good save tool even if the enemy has detection.
I'm a Master Tier Bounty Hunter and he is my most played hero so things I like to do with him are:
1. If your team needs help staying alive - specifically your carry - the level 15 talent works with the shard shadow walk, so you can make them more tanky.
2. Building small items first to consistently gain tiny power spikes that will help harass heroes going for bigger items - Orb of Corrosion, Tranquil Boots, Falcon Blade, Magic Wand, Urn of Shadows.
3. If you are trying to be annoying but find that the enemy team has loaded on dusts and sentries and are sticking together to pick you off, don't try to force anything because your presence is already doing enough. If they need to invest that much and have to sacrifice space to feel safe against you, don't give them a kill on you because then it'll be justified. If your teammates are pinging and flaming you to go scout when you know you'll get caught, mute and ignore.
4. If you had a great laning stage - offlaner is ahead and can pressure - then it's time for the "piss the enemy off" build. After small items like Orb of Corrosion and Falcon Blade so you can still do your job, it's time to rush Aghanim's Scepter with Track Kills being your main source for gold. Then move on to Aether Lens, and finally Octarine Core. You will never have to be in danger during team fights, you can track and steal gold further away from enemies, and the level 10 talent of +30 Jinada Damage is now applied to Shuriken Toss. If you have more time and gold you can build Khanda and have the most fun you've ever had in Dota 2. Spamming Shuriken Tosses and constantly hearing *ching* *ching* *ching* while the enemy team can do nothing about it because you're so far away is hilarious. If you can get a neutral item like Eye of the Vizier, Psychic Headband, or Telescope it's just got even more fun. That's when you start spamming voice lines as well: "They'll tell tales of this!" "Stings, don't it?" This build literally transforms you from a pos 4 support to a hard carry with highest damage in the game and the enemy team will be so tilted they will invest into literally dispelling Track or breaking Shuriken Toss.
5. For standard games that don't involve snowballing, targetable support items is the way to go. Lotus Orb, Linkens Sphere, Force Staff, Glimmer Cape, Heaven's Halberd, Eul's Scepter - these items allow to hover around the fight and stay alive so you can apply Track to any and all targets - you are not a damage dealer on your own like Witch Doctor or Snapfire, your contribution is mainly from Track, so you need to make sure that you apply it as much as possible and ensure your teammates can capitalize on it using your SUPPORT items.
6. I find a lot of people forget that Lotus Orb is a Basic Dispel and thus can get rid of Dust of Appearance. It's a great item to not only have for your team but to allow you to scout, be annoying, and stay alive if/when you get caught.
7. Always pick the Through and Through facet - Cutpurse if for noobs.
8. Bounty Hunter excels at harassing melee carries in lane once you hit Level 6. Track the carry when they are trying to get lane creeps, Shuriken Toss a creep near them so they get hit twice, and watch as their health melts away and suddenly they don't feel safe anymore. Bounty Hunter can be a brutal pos 4 to deal with when the opposing hard carry just wants to farm alone.
Didn't know that lotus orb can dispel dust, thanks for this great tips helps alot :)
@@catbrando7740 np :D
i aint reading all that shit
Great tips, thanks for sharing man!!
But dust now have lingering aoe, we need force staff to go outside of dust aoe and then use the dispel using lotus or eul.
But overall nice tips to share.
I've been spamming BH to low Divine. I'm gonna say this is the most fun pos 4 i've had.
First and foremost
1. BH support is the ultimate +1 hero. You don't really do anything big on your own (aside from hunting couriers). You can have a noticeable impact early, but your best play will always be +1 for your cores. It can be ganks, scouting supps, or even providing the correct support items.
2. Your primary strength you are annoying af to deal with early, and source of extra gold for your team (track bonus for cores or earlier/better support items).
3. The fact you don't have big spells, your entire gameplay relies on how good your macro game sense is. Scouting, dodging sentries, proper items, positioning. It really sharpens game sense, which is why i really like BH supp.
some personal tips:
1. pregame scouting and courier sniping is the best thing you can do early game
2. pregame scout > keep in mind your team's overall fb power. Don't bait your team for unwinnable fb encounters
3. Personally, i always leave lane at minute 5 (moreso if it's a losing lane). Abuse the night time and go for ganks at mid or safelane. Every minute from 5 to 10 there's objectives to contest for (bounties, runes, wisdoms, or even kills)
4. start with a stick if you expect heavy trading, or wind lace for extra ms. I only start with venom if i know my partner could abuse the extra slow, otherwise your enemy will just dodge you and you don't get to benefit fully from venom.
5. Recognize the state of every lane. Maybe your mid needs a little help to start snowballing. Maybe you offlane is just losing and need to recover from solo xp/stack. Maybe you need to relieve early pressure at safelane.
6. Using track is counterintuitive. If you are actually ganking, you want to hold Track until the last second. If you know you won't engage further, just spam it.
7. NEVER SHOW UP IN LANE. Stay hidden from vision and you will always appear at your opponents head. The only acceptable time to show up in lane is either post ganking, resetting lane / wave clearing, or actually baiting the enemy.
8. Always get the Through and Through facet, and always mind where you throw shuriken to bounce. It has the potential to turnaround early fights.
For item builds, i pretty much agree with adrian. Aside from boots, there are no fixed builds.
A. tranquil into bearing boots (most common cases)
B. arcane into greaves (i rarely buy these bcs they falloff hard)
C. brown boots into orchid/nulli (extra aggresive against certain heroes)
- Vessel is always a nice item and bh has great synergy with it. Personally, it's either a "vessel 1st item" game or no vessel at all.
- Aghanim is bait. The only time i get it is when its already a total stomp or just meme build. Your enemy will dodge you if you are ahead and if they're ahead, you need more support items anyway.
-consider getting BKB or become aura carrier. Sometimes you have to be in the center of fights instead of sidelines.
Lastly, your goal is to end the game early while your team is ahead of gold. In a super late game, your track bonus won't be pronounced as much and supports/cores with better skills with out scale you.
"Aghanim is bait"
1000% this
15 talent works with shard, can make teammate tanky af if they stay invis. The annoying part of shard is that it cancels the auto-attack of your ally, and if they are not aware that they're invi they can afk for 1-2 secs XD
This is my favorite hero of all time and people always subestimate his power of tilting enemies.
Been using this strategy for so long (hours on BH support), however you can indeed spend all game to annoy/tilt your enemies (very fun) but you'll be flamed in exchange for being useless and a walking ward (scout). I also want to point out that Track don't just give vision but also gives gold (if the enemy dies) or just pick the innate idk and because of that you may have the potential to transition into a damage dealer with items to pick off supports at the back and potentially go toe on toe with their cores, which basically makes BH special as a support hero that lacks any stuns or disables.
This hero is ultimately up there with Techies and Nyx as viable troll (annoying) heroes in rank.
Dont forget track also gives move speed bonus to yourself per enemy tracked.
And it gives 18% damage amplification to tracked enemies
7:05 & 8:55 Best tips
i usually go for the ZOOMING MOVEMENT SPEED BUILD cause it maximizes BH annoyingness and therefore increasing the chance of the enemy tilting
Its even better if you get tanky items, you literally just go for a hit and run which i find really funny
Great video. A small eq on your mic taking down the mids by a few dB and boosting the bass would help it sound a lot better.
I spamed a lot of bounty recently and found out some of the things he mentioned. Like going greenboots, drums, vlads etc. Im not sure the other facet is as bad as the pickrate suggests. The psychological effect of the gold steal sound during lane for every shuriken can be funny and later on you actually steal more gold with the bouncing shurikens.
This is a great video… just got to work and now I have to wait to play dota 😩
Agh's shard also reduces shadow walk cooldown by 5 seconds, or 33% at max level, which is pretty huge, but the devs forgot to mention it in the text in typical dota2 fashion
bro i watch your videos from brazil, they are insane!!!
Just started spamming BH, he's so fun to play, more gonna implement your tips in my games to improve my finesse of the hero
You earned yourself a new subscriber! Great content!
Heroes with invisibility are really fun to play
Thx men. Awesome video
Great video bro 🤍
Speaking of innates being confusing, I had no idea why I could see Roshans spawn status/timer until seeing TA's innate
The courier respawn message must be a leftover from where there was only 1 courier per team, so it was a huge deal to get it back
Khanda is a meme item but it can be good on BH. Jinada increased the damage so enemy takes like 400 magic damage when you track them now
It's really good video, in my rank (archon) I had a hard time using BH because all I think is fight, and it's really bad fighting hero early game, and most likely had jinada lv1, turned out it's bad approach 😁
Yesterday I had a 1h match with bounty, and shortly before I reached lv 25 I got an aghs from rosh, so that made the shuriken talent much more favorable in that situation
3:29 this is an Archaic mechanic back when teams only have 1 courier and probably should have been patched already ever since everyone got free couriers.
vision, gold and exp are the most valuable stuff in every MOBA ! bounty provides 2 of them! in Right hands it's a monster!
Thanks for the video
I abuse him in arcade 12v12. No one wants to fight or buy wards. But if you go BH and track everyone, you have no problem. Buy wards and sentries and do not invade the enemy. Let them come to you
no jinada cd is great if your a match where you shift from a support to a semi core with a bkb
where bkb and whatever else you've bought is enough for you to survive in melee
if the enemy can blow you up in close range shuriken damage is good
when you need to stay on the outer radius of fights
Thay was awesome toss thing 😊😊
8:34 "just because you're invisible doesn't mean you're invincible"
I disagree. i will be staying in archon to prove you wrong xD.
Reminds of Idris from Vainglory with the double shuriken trick
Please make a tutorial for playing mid/safe with morpheling. I have seen so many good plays with Morph but i find it very difficult to play with
im surprised not more people are playing gondar rn in our games its max fighting and thats what he loves more than anything else i always go for Tranq>Phyl>Drum>Pipe>BoB>Dagon and its so disgusting how good it is double aura for your teammates and you have plenty of dmg to finish of a support i think im 6-1 with him
I used to spam pos 4 bh when eb still using eaglesong and always buy early max dagon to burst enemy pos 1
9:50 big lotus but didn't use 😵
the aghs shard isnt trash it also applies the 30% less damage taken and has a decent range. so you could use it to give a ally shadow walk to intiate or use it on a stunned ally to give them invis and reduced the damage they take significantly. it can even be used on a leshrac with damage reduction pulse nova so the leshrac can soak over double the amount of damage.
why dont players buy it if its good.. simple the alternatives are just better bh doesnt get alot of farm so he buys high value small items like drum urn forcestaff ghost scepter medallion euls which are just really good if these items get nerfed bh players will buy shard
the easiest way to see its value is to compare it to a glimmer cape ie enemies throw a stun at your core would you rather;
1 spend 90 mana to put a 300magic shield with 40 movespeed and .5second fade invis for 5 seconds at 600range
2 spend 50 mana to apply 30% damage resist .25 second fade invis for 35seconds at 650 range
while the mana shield movespeed and ability to cast spells then return to invis are all quite good especially early game mid game and end game the shadowalk is alot better alternative
almost 33k bro
I disagree, max shadow walk give more option for positioning and scouting early on and make snowball the game faster, much easier for double stunning to help secure kill more effectively especially early game.
You also tilt your allies by picking bounty hunter
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BullShit like this is why I exclusively play turbo
as a player with 2k match on this dumb hero i approve XD
Ayo you can double hit with toss wtf
It requires your core capable to 1 v 2 lane. Technically your core carrying hard or both enemies idiots can't even owning of 2 v 1 while you being useless feeling useful.
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I have always played bounty as a mid lane. When you get solo xp and gold, the proper items ( satanic, deso, aghs, threads, daedalus ) and hit the 25 talent for no cooldown on your jinada, its pretty much GG
I'm having an identity crisis; been struggling with mine and would like a nail in the coffin with confidence of what heros I have on my grid and why.
My previous criteria was "I should have a hero grid for all roles up to 4 heros per role that do different things."
For the offlane, I have a Jump hero in CK, an area control + big team fight ultimate in Sand king, one man-fighter in LC and Axe as a second jump hero.
In the carry role, I have PA as a jump hero, Luna as a big team fight ultimate, Troll as a man fight hero and Jug as a hero that has a big spell but is also useful outside of it's CD.
Then my criteria changed to match my team's pace because I seemed to be consistently off pace compared to my teammates in solo que. If I found that they had big ultimates and I'm playing offlane, I'd pick Sand king just so our team fight pace matches up. Respectively, if they are fast paced heros like Huskar, Tiny, Bristle back, Orge and Drow, I could play PA and if we were already winning I would go Deso into BKB because my ultimate doesn't have a cool down and thus I could fight as often as the enemy respawns and only using BKB in an emergency.
Now I'm getting enough game knowledge that the next criteria is to match critical mass with my team. Phantom Lancer is a lvl 25 hero needing many items and levels before hard committing to fights, where as Troll only needs level 20 with a battle fury/mjolnir, BKB, and one DPS item because at level 15 with both he still hits like wet paper regardless if you BKB+R at the beginning of a fight. PA can be as fast as a level 10 hero only needing the Dagger CD if their allies provide a silence and they have no dispell, but is usually a level 15 hero needing the extra evasion talent and BKB to pair it with.
I would really appreciate it if you humor me by either commenting if this isn't something you'd pursue.
Thanks again for the amazing content!
how to play BH? Just buy him Khanda