I think about Shavkat Rakhmonov vs Stephen Thompson all the time. My thoughts. (UFC 296 Breakdown)

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  • @uriel7940
    @uriel7940 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I favor Shavkat but this is an incredibly tough task. Wonderboy’s movement, diverse kicks, solid hands, use of angles, and ability to blitz will prove to be quite a challenge for Shavkat’s lack of head movement. Also, Shavkat isn’t extremely proficient (that we know of) at shooting blast doubles or using any other traditional wrestling methods. He usually does his best work when his back or his opponents back is along the cage, where he looks to knee or find a trip somehow.
    I think he will eventually find a way to takedown Wonderboy. And when he does get him down his top control is very heavy and he has nasty ground and pound too… plus a good submission game.
    but if he can’t… I think it will get increasingly more difficult for him to win.

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The punching damage of Shavkat during transitions and on the ground could be big factor too...he's so good at attacking around the clock and hits hard too. That could definitely create a toll on Wonderboy over three rounds! But not a good matchup for Shavkat at range.

  • @brunomattos1130
    @brunomattos1130 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think Wonderboy has the perfect style to beat Shavkat. The problem is: age. Wonderboy is the oldest fighter in the top 15, I think a young and hungry Shavkat will be too much for him. I heard people saying that Shavkat's offensive wrestling is overrated, but you know whose else is overrated? Tyron Woodley, and he made it against Wonderboy still

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that’s perfectly said. A lot of intangibles could push the fight in Shavkat’s favor, but Wonderboy’s speed and mobility (on paper) pose problems.

  • @sssondre_
    @sssondre_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video :D

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Appreciate you! 🙏

  • @dauletramazanov4745
    @dauletramazanov4745 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video 👍 Shavkat Rakhmonov is a real deal 💪hello from Kazakhstan 🇰🇿

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a ton! Agreed, if he can pass this test I'm ready to send him to the title!

  • @ЕркинЖайрбаев
    @ЕркинЖайрбаев ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shavkat 🔥

  • @chuckwaardenburg496
    @chuckwaardenburg496 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So you're saying there's a chance❓️

  • @kadenmaguglin392
    @kadenmaguglin392 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Leon vs wonderboy would be a sick match

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would love that too! 😍

  • @Drappaport02
    @Drappaport02 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Stephen Thompson has been slowing down since in his prime he's been able to stay off the fence with his ringcraft. However, you made a great point about wonderboy's box. At Wmma today ghost and drake called it the tracks. Wonderboy seems to be really good if the opponent is coming to him. So it might be a good idea to draw Wonderboy as the aggressor and take him down that way for Shavkat. Either way, great breakdown Chris. I look forward to todays podcast

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much my man. Can’t wait to see what Shavkat brings to beat Wonderboy.

    • @conboy66
      @conboy66 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearly you didn't watch the holland fight

  • @keion_arknights
    @keion_arknights ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shavkat's gonna knee Wonderboy to the body initiating and in the clinch, and it's going to be not fun for him. I don't see how Wonderboy wins. Also Shavkat tried a ton of takedowns against Neal, but Neal is Neal, while Wonderboy has the perfect stance to get kneepicked from. This is a plainly obvious fight to predict, Neal was probably his hardest matchup in the division stylistically and he flew past him.

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fair enough! Intrigued more than anything in this fight to see how Wonderboy handles all the problems Shavkat poses in the clinch!

  • @p_ttown1979
    @p_ttown1979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great vid! i think wonderboy is very underrated in this matchup. shavkhat is dangerous everywhere, but wonderboy’s TDD is pretty underrated, and shavkhat’s TD’s are kind of lacking tbh. he’s creative cuz he sinks in submissions out of nowhere, but even after swinging cowboy oliveira around he still had a hard time getting TD’s. and we saw what geoff neal was able to accomplish on the feet once he stuffed TD’s, imagine what wonderboy could do. now with that said, shavkhat is the fighter who can make the biggest improvements in between fights and it’ll be a huge challenge for wonderboy. but i also think it’ll be a much bigger challenge for shavkhat too than what the oddsmakers have it.

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, and totally! Way more tape out there on Wonderboy than Shavkat, but it does feel like folks are talking about Thompson like he’s fallen off a cliff already. Still a big threat to anyone!

    • @ChristianBale-ks8nm
      @ChristianBale-ks8nm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Geoff didn’t make weight. Also he has lower situated center of gravity than Wonderboy.

    • @p_ttown1979
      @p_ttown1979 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChristianBale-ks8nm that is something i totally forgot, and very likely did affect the fight. thanks for the reminder! i think wonderboy’s horse stance gives him a decent center of gravity no?

    • @superkatarsis
      @superkatarsis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChristianBale-ks8nmAnd how does that effect Wonderboy?

    • @gavinma4831
      @gavinma4831 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are banking on Shavkat having poor takedowns you are in for a huge surprise 😂 it’s pretty obvious. Shavkat should win. He’s going to take him down and pound him. Of course wonderboy can win by some crazy punchers/kickers chance

  • @davemieze9021
    @davemieze9021 ปีที่แล้ว

    Belal, God bless him. He’s just not a fighter who makes waves. But he’s doing the work. There are the fighters that just quietly make their way to the top. Let’s go. Wonderboy

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว

      I know, I don't see why he wouldn't get the next crack, especially if it's against Leon Edwards. There's history there too which makes it better. But I have bad feeling we won't get that fight soon.

  • @aliskandardaniel5413
    @aliskandardaniel5413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stephen Thompson need to study how Shara Bullet dominate on standing against the wrestler. If can stop the take down like Shara Bullet did he have the chance

    • @ohioisonfiree1316
      @ohioisonfiree1316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shara stops 0 takedowns what are u smoking

  • @cybercop0059
    @cybercop0059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderboy is my hot take as well to win. I actually picked both Burns and Belal over Wonderboy and helped a friend make some bucks off of Belal beating Wonderboy. The reason why I thought Burns and Belal could take Wonderboy down were not just their technique, but also their physical attributes. Both Belal and Burns are short, stocky and very strong. So I thought even if they telegraph the first takedown, they can finish the followup takedowns with a combination of strength, low center of gravity, and technique. I don't think Shavkat is going to have that luxury because Shavkat is more long and lanky. So, consequently, I think Shavkat is going to have to strike with Wonderboy for a bit before getting those takedowns. And Shavkat did get rocked quite a bit against Geoff Neal and is quite ploddy. I think Wonderboy has seen these types of fighters before many times throughout his career, and will take the fight to Shavkat on the feet. Shavkat might shoot for takedowns but, I'd imagine he is not as strong as Burns or Belal, or have that relentless chain wrestling style like both of them. If Shavkat's takedowns fail, he will disengage and go back to striking.

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly my thoughts too! Well said. Shavkat's positives on the feet is that he doesn't telegraph much and has good power, so even if losing to Thompson on sheer volume he can still end the fight any time. Insanely hard to pick overall.

  • @kenwahldhlamini8102
    @kenwahldhlamini8102 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shavkat Rakhmonov will takedown Stephen Thompson and submit him. Shavkat is big strong welterweight while wonderboy takedown defense has rapidly declined and he doesn't need to takedown wonderboy down to get a submission. If it was 2015 wonderboy Thompson yes it would've been interesting fight. Wonderboy tough fights are against good wrestlers/grapplers

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m curious if Shavkat will attempt a broader wrestling attack against Thompson or if he’ll rely on throws. Wonderboy’s TDD has gotten decent but can never catch up with an expert.

    • @kenwahldhlamini8102
      @kenwahldhlamini8102 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmaecosystem it's declined did watch the Belel Muhammed and Gilbert burns fight

    • @kenwahldhlamini8102
      @kenwahldhlamini8102 ปีที่แล้ว

      @mmaecosystem even kevin holland took him down but let him back up shavkat won't allow it. Plus he's getting older

    • @djtheory313
      @djtheory313 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenwahldhlamini8102 wonderboys gonna finish Shavkat fairly easily. It’ll be an easy day in the office. WB on the road to capturing the WW belt, Belal will have to wait.

    • @kenwahldhlamini8102
      @kenwahldhlamini8102 ปีที่แล้ว

      @djtheory313 it won't be easy for wonderboy at all. Wonderboy is to small and old

  • @pingu6028
    @pingu6028 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like him but there is no way he can win

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anything can happen!

    • @binky777
      @binky777 ปีที่แล้ว

      One dimensional, always searching for the head kick.

  • @hoagiemacintosh781
    @hoagiemacintosh781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are you Sanko with that title 😂?

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha anything but the standard!

  • @jakefaigen897
    @jakefaigen897 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You said this is hard to predict' yet sharp sportsbooks have Shakvat -600. You trying to be different way too hard. Just tryna bait engagement?

  • @awfulwaffle3688
    @awfulwaffle3688 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Edwards doesn't want to fight shavkat or garry

    • @kiabtoomlauj6249
      @kiabtoomlauj6249 ปีที่แล้ว

      True. That's why he has never made any sound on-line, unlike MAGA man, Garry, Conor et al. He was MADE to fight Colby only because Colby's Dad said if Leon didn't agree to fight, that his belt would be taken away and be given it to Colby. Colby, BTW, was the same one who wanted to fight Leon 3-4 years ago. Leon also refused to fight Colby back then. Everyone knows Leon's scared to fight real fighters. All the ones he fought were amateurs, as the best Welterweight in history, Colby, said.

  • @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы
    @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Спасибо за обзор брат но я желаю победы для Шавката так как он сын моего Народа кочевого Nomad мы не монголы как все хотят нас определить мы тот народ который породили Чингисхана и мы народ Виликого Ченгисхана виликого Казаха и даст нам Великий Тенгри мы заберем этот пояс во что бы нам не стоило

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I definitely think that Shavkat will be the first Kazakh to win a UFC championship! Just one more win from a title shot

    • @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы
      @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmaecosystemәумин мы ждем и молимся об этом каждый час и каждую минуту

    • @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы
      @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы
      @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Бро я думаю буду первым казахом который подписался на твой канал пожилай нам удачи бро на наш ВЕЛИКИЙ ПОХОД В USA

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      @АлтайТайманов-ъ6ы ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @ms_gk
    @ms_gk ปีที่แล้ว

    Here you go: wonderboy has as much chance to beat Shavkat as Ukraine fascist have to beat Russian army. 😅

    • @mmaecosystem
      @mmaecosystem  ปีที่แล้ว

      🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️