Going from pikmin 4 to pokemon scarlet this week almost killed me. Idk how one of nintendo's smaller IPs outplayed the biggest IP in the world, but it made me appreciate their work on pikmin that much more.
Here is the issue with Scarlet: It was made by Gamefreak. They have the ambition, but neither the developers and time to fully realise it. Oh, they are also making games for third parties spreading their developers even thinner. The only Pokémon games that felt like finished games were Pokémon: Let's Go (made by Gamefreak) and the Diamond/Pearl remakes that were not even made by Gamefreak.
@@OzzianmanGamefreak definitely needs to outsource the technical side of thigns to another studio. I would probably go with Monolithsoft and make use of Monolithsoft's engine for their open world games. Or the Tears of the Kingdom engine. They can keep a lot of the asset creation, game design, and art direction stuff in house. They just have got to stop trying to develop their own engines cause they are just bad at it. They could then split into two teams who alternate on game releases, like Call of Duty does, to give each game at least 3 or 4 years in the oven. These feel like the best solutions imo
@@jcnba28more like they make it for WiiU and then left it behind.. only picking up recently and publish on switch.. no way they spend 10 years for this niche game.. pikmin 3 not selling a million on wiiU in when it release..
This series has suddenly become one of my favorites! I'm glad Nintendo chose to release all the games on Switch (Hey Pikmin doesn't count 👀). Just 2 more days!
@@KdkjdjewerdnxaI miss out on all Nintendo games cause they don’t have achievements or stat tracking or any kind lol. Kind of a waste of time for me since I find fun in achievements
The one thing I wish this review talk about was the sound design. It's really fantastic with surround sound. One detail I like that also ties with your review is that when you move the camera underwater, you hear a sound effect that sounds like submerging a real life camera microphone. It's just another element that makes it seems like a real life camera is viewing you.
Honestly Nintendo is one of the best in the industry at sound. If you pay attention to the sounds in almost all of their games, they are absolutely top tier
Pikmin 3 had beautiful water (also the fruit models looked amazing). Would have liked the water in Pikmin 4 to look better then that in 3, but at least the rest of the game looks like an upgrade.
seriously, the water in Pikmin 3 is some of the most beautiful I've seen in a game. the way it had caustics that would flow with the ripples caused by the player is still something games today aren't doing lol
Pikmin 3 fruit did look meticulously and ridiculously good. It added to the feeling of accomplishment of getting new ones, waiting for that detailed close up of all that fresh juiciness lol
Never played any Pikmin game before. Tried it's demo but didn't liked it. A friend gift me Pikmin 4 and... This game is a masterpiece. The most fun I had from any game in this year.
@@video_cookies Im a huge pikmin fan but I also didnt like the demo, the main reason being it was extremely hand-holdy and heavy with dialogue, constantly stopping you to show you something instead of letting you play. The game is amazing but the first hour is dreadful.
@@RekizFilms I really disliked the excessive dialogue. It was drab. But the gameplay was so much fun that it outshines the handholding and boring dialogue.
might be the first time I've heard someone call Oatchi - Oh at Chi, I just assumed it was Oatchi like Oat chi. With that out of the way, I'm looking forward to playing this quite a bit, lovely work from everyone involved!
I normally groan when I hear UE4, but Nintendo clearly does a good job at leveraging the technology without making it feel out of place. It still looks like a Pikmin game. For a while I didn’t even know it was in UE4
it's not the engine's fault that most games stick to the very basics of it and end up looking samey and having similar problems. that's what gives the engine the bad reputation. the downside of its accessibility.
UE4 is a very competent engine, it just has the unity-syndrome now, because many games are being made with it without being properly polished, both in presentation and optimisation.
I think this game looks phenomenal for a Switch game, but there's one area I think was heavily downgraded from Pikmin 3, and that's the water rendering. Go play the Twilight River level in Pikmin 3 (or just skip to 3:31) then come back to this and you'll see an immediate difference. The water rendering in 4 is fine, but 3 has probably the best shallow water rendering in any game.
Idk I just went back and forth between the two but “heavily downgraded” is a massive over exaggeration considering they look about the same but more clear in 4 with the updated graphics.
@@flataffect I'm going to have to put up a comparison video then, because it's just "clearer" in 4, unless you mean 4 having a much more simplistic water shader.
@@charliefen guess it’s a beefy game then! I 100% completed it in 34 hours on my first go. But, I’ve also played, and replayed, the first 3 games more times than I can count. Glad it is a sizable gsme!
I had NO clue Pikmin 4 changed to Unreal Engine. I genuinely thought it was Nintendo's engine just with 10 years of improvements. I think that's a testament to Nintendos modeling and art design prowess. This doesn't look like a typical UE game, it really does look like a Nintendo game. And it's absolutely beautiful. Amazing looking game for the Switch. Just boggles the mind that we have games like Pikmin 4 and TOTK running FLUIDLY on a handheld built with 2017 hardware. I mean we're 6 years into the Switch, and I still never take it for granted just how amazing it is to have such high fidelity console games on a handheld system.
The game is very beautiful, it kinda solved my only real issue with Pikmin 3's visuals, that being that the overall texture and gemoetry was inconsistent, a lot of it looking outstanding but sometimes barely better than the first 2 games, probably becasue of the game originally starting development for the Wii and maybe keeping assests from that build. Here on Pikmin 4 everything looks with a consistently high level of quality on texture and gemoetry.
I really didn't expect such a huge jump in graphics quality from Pikmin 3 (Wii U) to Pikmin 4 (Switch) even more so considering that Switch hardware isn't much more powerful than Switch, but damn, Nintendo really knows how surprise me, the game is not only more beautiful than Pikmin 3, I would even say that it is one of the most beautiful games I have ever seen artistically speaking, it is magnificent to see it running on a handheld.
Basically made the biggest leap in visual presentation at the cost of potential problematic resolution issues. But it really, really shows how hard Nintendo can stretch the absolutely ancient base hardware that the switch was made with and get something good. UE4 doesn't feel it's just there as a shortcut, it actually feels effectively used to create the most visually stunning Pikmin game to date. (Even technically is the most auditorally stunning as well, literally the most dynamic the series has gotten.) And no matter how you feel about the potential downgrades in certain respects the small sacrifices done for the game to look this good as a whole for a portable device, is literally classic Nintendo.
@@MrMorotep Definitely Ancient both now, and relatively so in 2017 (a pretty cut down Maxwell Gen 2 gpu core from mid-late 2014, and the ARM A57 core design from 2012).
The game looks gorgeous! I’ve only just got to the second area (Blossoming Arcadia) but I’m really impressed in what they’ve squeezed out of the aging Switch. Ditto for TOTK.
The people complaining that a stunning real-time strategy game like Pikmin runs at 900p and 30fps make me wonder whether they are complaining for complaining's sake. Like, you surely didn't intend to buy the game in the first place, so why pretend to be mad about it? =D
I think he mentions it being in pikmin 3 and probably because it's a fairly old technique and hasn't improved since pikmin 3 there wasn't much point commenting further on it
Since we’re approaching the end of the Switch 1’s life, I wonder if this is a sign that more Nintendo EPD projects will use Unreal Engine 4/5 going forward.
Probably. With the Switch, they seem to be crumbling under the weight of increased development costs (time, staff and resources, not necessarily money) so moving to an engine that streamlines a lot of the busiwork would allow them to make better looking, more ambitious games at a faster rate. There's really nothing special about the 'Nintendo Engine' that is lost with the move to UE4. This still looks unmistakably like a Nintendo game, only now with anti-alising *THANK GOD.*
I hope not. I’d like to see the last few custom engines left hold on. They’ve obviously got some state of the art engine devs to pull off what they did in TotK so hopefully they keep that engine rolling onto Super Switch.
With the way things are going at the moment I don’t know why someone would pick another console 🤷♂️ Sony and Microsoft have just been putting out one disappointment after another.
FYI, Oatchi is pronounced exactly how it looks in English: OH-chee. オッチン is his name in Japanese, which romanizes directly into Occhin, with a hard O sound.
I just 100%ed this game. The amount of content and the absolutely stunning length of this game is insane. 45 hours. But also why are you doing this a month after the release?!?!?
@@mattspeer01 eh maybe RPGs but for the most part single player games are still 8 to 10 hours. That's how I like it too tbh any longer is just taking too much of my time grinding repetitive tasks Shout out to Last of Us 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy for being long af and remaining interesting the whole way through
This game is absolutely brilliant. I have terrible ADD and have tried so hard to get into the last 3 games, which I own, but always strayed because it couldn't keep my attention. Boy is this one different! They essentially took the formula of a metroidvania, simplified it into bite sized chunks and then added in the Shrine (botw) and Cave (totk) concept from Zelda to give you constant satisfying breaks from the timer and outside world. Both are equally as engaging and rewarding while not getting stale as you're always progressing and unlocking new things. It's honestly the perfect formula, and I haven't been this deeply engaged in a game since 2017 with BOTW. Bravo Nintendo!
"Oatchi (pronounced oat-chee), resident good boy and dependable partner, can help with things like smashing obstacles and carrying Pikmin throughout your adventure." This is from the Nintendo website. I think you're pronouncing his name wrong.
Was waiting for this video! I thought it couldn't just be me in thinking this game is one of the most technically impressive games on the Switch hardware. Sometimes developers really surprise me with what they're able to squeeze out of the little Tegra
While it’s a bit of a shame Nintendo hardware is no longer cutting edge, they always have an incredibly solid understanding of the technology and how to push it. I used to attribute a lot of it to their in-house engines, but that seems like a false equivalence now.
you mean their own in house engine, not Unreal Engine.. UE look beautiful but having performance issue meanwhile their inhouse engine still look beautiful and easily run at solid 60fps.. maybe they just want to experimenting with UE4 with pikmin 4
1:26 - Pikmin 4 added an _auto_ lock-on. Pikmin 3 was the 1st to have lock-on for the series. We've also had a "Rewind" type feature since 1&2 were ported to the Wii. 1:56 - You really don't get that stuff "by default", especially the swimming. Oatchi doesn't grow and become ride-able until you've rescued at least 1 Castaway, which would happen on Day 3 at the soonest. While he only learns to swim after he's struggled in the water and grown. (2 days after struggling, to be specific.)
When the next Switch inevitably arrives I feel like Pikmin 4 will be one of the more talked about upgrades. With an increased dynamic res window along with dlss (maybe even dlss 3) boosting the frame rate and cleaning up the aliasing the end result should look very Pixar-esque.
I'm a little sad they didn't get it running at 720p in handheld. Mariokart 8 Deluxe runs at 720p 60fps, looks just as good, and is almost a decade old! But needing to support dynamic daylight means static lightmaps and reflection bakes aren't an option. Completely understandable why a 720p 30fps target isn't feasible, let alone 60fps.
I’m debating on picking this up. I have only played the 1st title on the GC many moons ago and skipped the rest. Other than that, the game looks great from all the videos I’ve watched.
I'd say grab it. It's new user friendly. I recommend going back and playing the third one, too. They're different enough to be enjoyable without making the other obsolete. Try the demo!
It looks great. I am not sure when I am going to be able to 'slot' Pikmin 4 in, to play it. I have so many great games right now I really want to play. But this definitely looks like a pickup. Glad to hear it has so many improvements over the admittedly pretty damn good Pikmin 3 Deluxe.
Nintendo making games in a framerate less than 60 fps is always gonna be a step backwards no matter how advanced the rendering pipeline is. Strong art and a solid framerate is what sets Nintendo-games apart from the rest. 30 fps and an overuse of postprocessing effects makes for cheap looking games and is below Nintendo imo.
@@zultriova89 no i would have opted for baked shadows for the levels and blob shadows for the Pikmin. Realtime shadows for some larger characters only. I think that alone would free up a lot of resources. Realtime shadows looks like shit when rendered at this low resolution anyway.
ya know, people expecting much from cheap processor for almost 10 years ago.. original switch mean for 540p handheld and 720p/1080p docked (according to switch prototype from Nintendo dev partner) same as Wii U and they bump it to 720p and 1080p docked.. all the power and gpu heavily toward resolution rather than fps for games even with low textures than suitable for low resolution like 720p maximum.. I hate it too but gamer just asking for more resolution than fps.. even for switch 2 they want nintendo make it 4K portable..
Since you included comparisons to the work of modders for the Pikmin 1+2 review, it should be noted that modders have also made enhancements to Pikmin 4 by setting UE4’s graphical setting to higher values and have even bumped the performance to a native 60fps, albeit with some slight stutters. TH-camr and notable Pikmin modder Gunnadahun made a video showcasing both graphical and performance improvements through emulation before Nintendo took down the video for obvious reasons.
Very pleased with Pikmin 4....I've been crazy for the series since day one and 4 is probably the best. My only gripe is it's a touch too easy, but Nintendo made all the right calls. Great to see so many people finally get why Pikmin is soooooo good. Now go check the Dandori challeneges on Pikmin 3.
As amazing as this looks, it’s a shame to see 1st party games not use a native Nintendo engine - would that not have allowed them to hit full native resolutions or is this no longer the case?
i think it one of nintendo experiment using unreal engine just like Yoshi game.. most of their other game using in house engine.. as Nintendo dev also learning Unity engine and Unreal Engine too..
Makes you wonder if the next 3D Mario title on Switch 2 will also be on Unreal Engine. I guess it's because the toolset is just that good or the younger generation of devs just know it best?
I'm always baffled at how people be complaining that the Switch is behind the current-gen consoles when not only is it last-gen, it's a handheld device. Nobody was mad that the GameBoy Advance only had the graphics of the SNES from 10 years before it lmao. Nintendo is taking hella trips to the bank while "gamers" out here running fiscal analysis on how Nintendo is "hurting" and "won't make it." Nintendo is a piece of shit from a PR ethics point of view, but homies out here butthurt because Pikmin 4 isn't 4k 60fps. A lot of people here should never own a business.
Why do some reviewers pronounce Oatchi incorrectly! It’s Oh-chi not Oh-at-chi! This was confirmed by Nintendo in their promo videos. Oh-at-chi just sounds so wrong! Come on all you lovers of Oh-chi, back me up!!!
Gotta say, I think there have been serious diminishing returns with respect to graphics in the last 10 years. Pikmin 4 does look better than Pikmin 3, but only a little. The overall affect between the games as far as art is concerned is the same imo. Pikmin 3 could come out tomorrow and I'd still think it was gorgeous
I can't wait for Switch 2. If you look how amazing Pikmin 4 and Metroid Prime Remastered looks on the Switch OLED. I can't imagine how wonderful it's going to be playing Switch 2 games.
Nintendo is putting a lot of effort to keep Switch viable these days. And it shows. Also, I have been playing a lot of FF16 lately, and it baffles me how BAD rendering upscale is in that game. It's worse than in Horizon FW before patch that solved blurred upscaler there.
Going from pikmin 4 to pokemon scarlet this week almost killed me. Idk how one of nintendo's smaller IPs outplayed the biggest IP in the world, but it made me appreciate their work on pikmin that much more.
I thought the same thing while playing Pikmin haha
Here is the issue with Scarlet: It was made by Gamefreak. They have the ambition, but neither the developers and time to fully realise it. Oh, they are also making games for third parties spreading their developers even thinner.
The only Pokémon games that felt like finished games were Pokémon: Let's Go (made by Gamefreak) and the Diamond/Pearl remakes that were not even made by Gamefreak.
Pikmin 4 had like 10 years of a development cycle. Pokemon had like 2 years so it was clearly rushed.
@@OzzianmanGamefreak definitely needs to outsource the technical side of thigns to another studio. I would probably go with Monolithsoft and make use of Monolithsoft's engine for their open world games. Or the Tears of the Kingdom engine.
They can keep a lot of the asset creation, game design, and art direction stuff in house. They just have got to stop trying to develop their own engines cause they are just bad at it.
They could then split into two teams who alternate on game releases, like Call of Duty does, to give each game at least 3 or 4 years in the oven.
These feel like the best solutions imo
@@jcnba28more like they make it for WiiU and then left it behind.. only picking up recently and publish on switch.. no way they spend 10 years for this niche game.. pikmin 3 not selling a million on wiiU in when it release..
This series has suddenly become one of my favorites! I'm glad Nintendo chose to release all the games on Switch (Hey Pikmin doesn't count 👀). Just 2 more days!
This game has this effect on people. It's such a weird game that you wouldn't understand the appeal until you play it, like Animal Crossing.
"Hey Pikmin doesn't count" Ahh you are already a true hardcore fan, welcome to the fanbase
I’m one of the weirdos that likes Hey Pikmin
What do you mean "Just 2 more days?"
@@ManganizationI tried animal crossing and still didn't find it fun
I'm not into Pikmin, but I must say, the art direction is just stunning on this 4th installment.
@MyLazySundae”if it wasn’t Nintendo” have fun missing out on dozens of the best games ever made then.
@MyLazySundaethat's the stupidest take I've ever heard
@@The_MEMEphisnow now…let’s not be rude to the vapid Nintendo-hater that offered nothing of value in their reasoning. 😉
@@KdkjdjewerdnxaI miss out on all Nintendo games cause they don’t have achievements or stat tracking or any kind lol. Kind of a waste of time for me since I find fun in achievements
@@The_MEMEphisnot really, not everyone likes Nintendo ya know. I don’t cause they don’t have achievements lol
The one thing I wish this review talk about was the sound design. It's really fantastic with surround sound. One detail I like that also ties with your review is that when you move the camera underwater, you hear a sound effect that sounds like submerging a real life camera microphone. It's just another element that makes it seems like a real life camera is viewing you.
The soundscape is immaculate
Honestly Nintendo is one of the best in the industry at sound. If you pay attention to the sounds in almost all of their games, they are absolutely top tier
The chromatic aberration effect also helps add immersion
Pikmin 3 had beautiful water (also the fruit models looked amazing). Would have liked the water in Pikmin 4 to look better then that in 3, but at least the rest of the game looks like an upgrade.
seriously, the water in Pikmin 3 is some of the most beautiful I've seen in a game. the way it had caustics that would flow with the ripples caused by the player is still something games today aren't doing lol
Pikmin 3 fruit did look meticulously and ridiculously good. It added to the feeling of accomplishment of getting new ones, waiting for that detailed close up of all that fresh juiciness lol
Never played any Pikmin game before. Tried it's demo but didn't liked it. A friend gift me Pikmin 4 and... This game is a masterpiece. The most fun I had from any game in this year.
I'm kinda curious what made you change your mind from why you didn't like the demo but then you enjoyed the full game
@video_cookies I felt the opposite. I played the demo and loved it. I need to get my hands on Pikmin 4.
@@video_cookies Im a huge pikmin fan but I also didnt like the demo, the main reason being it was extremely hand-holdy and heavy with dialogue, constantly stopping you to show you something instead of letting you play. The game is amazing but the first hour is dreadful.
I almost bought it just now but.....$65 damn near 100 bucks, screw that noise. I'll wait ten years when it goes on sale
@@RekizFilms I really disliked the excessive dialogue. It was drab. But the gameplay was so much fun that it outshines the handholding and boring dialogue.
might be the first time I've heard someone call Oatchi - Oh at Chi, I just assumed it was Oatchi like Oat chi.
With that out of the way, I'm looking forward to playing this quite a bit, lovely work from everyone involved!
Lol it is oat chi. Guy must of never eaten oats
It’s Oatchi like oats since in Japanese it’s ochin
this DF guy pronouces road as ro ah d LMAO
The pronunciation in this video is FASCINATING.
I normally groan when I hear UE4, but Nintendo clearly does a good job at leveraging the technology without making it feel out of place.
It still looks like a Pikmin game. For a while I didn’t even know it was in UE4
it's not the engine's fault that most games stick to the very basics of it and end up looking samey and having similar problems. that's what gives the engine the bad reputation. the downside of its accessibility.
UE4 is a very competent engine, it just has the unity-syndrome now, because many games are being made with it without being properly polished, both in presentation and optimisation.
It's all about the art design.
@@GraveUypo true, for every well-optimized game like Gears 5 you have like 5 stuttery, unoptimized messes like Jedi Survivor
U can completely gut unreal engine and replace lighting physics etc with custom stuff it’s just lazy devs
I think this game looks phenomenal for a Switch game, but there's one area I think was heavily downgraded from Pikmin 3, and that's the water rendering. Go play the Twilight River level in Pikmin 3 (or just skip to 3:31) then come back to this and you'll see an immediate difference.
The water rendering in 4 is fine, but 3 has probably the best shallow water rendering in any game.
Yeah, 3 had nice water.
Nintendo have always had great water in their in-house engines. Mario Sunshine still has some of the best water ever.
Idk I just went back and forth between the two but “heavily downgraded” is a massive over exaggeration considering they look about the same but more clear in 4 with the updated graphics.
@@flataffect I'm going to have to put up a comparison video then, because it's just "clearer" in 4, unless you mean 4 having a much more simplistic water shader.
The beach level in 4 felt real at some angles. The wetness, reflectivity, and subsurface scattering on the sand are insanely good at low angles
Game of the Year.
50+ hours so far and still addicted.
This is good Dandori.
50+ hours? R u doing multiple play throughs?
I’m on 45 so far and I haven’t, just getting all the treasures, caves, castaways, Olimar’s tale etc.
@@charliefen guess it’s a beefy game then! I 100% completed it in 34 hours on my first go. But, I’ve also played, and replayed, the first 3 games more times than I can count. Glad it is a sizable gsme!
Yeah good Dandori!
Got the ending screen with 32h here. Still 9 castways to heal and the olimar mission to do. Easily 50h for sure! GOTY
Pikmin4 really is the last holdout of a genre that used to be super popular, RTS games. Man... what I wouldn't give for WarCraft4...
Another 4 that needs to happen
Company of heroes comes to mind, but they keep fucking up lol
i play a lot of Comand and Conquer back in the days with RA2 and C&C3.. sadly EA killing it with C&C4...
A red pikmin drowns everytime he says "O-ah-chi"
Their little souls leaving their tiny bodies.
I had NO clue Pikmin 4 changed to Unreal Engine. I genuinely thought it was Nintendo's engine just with 10 years of improvements. I think that's a testament to Nintendos modeling and art design prowess. This doesn't look like a typical UE game, it really does look like a Nintendo game. And it's absolutely beautiful. Amazing looking game for the Switch. Just boggles the mind that we have games like Pikmin 4 and TOTK running FLUIDLY on a handheld built with 2017 hardware. I mean we're 6 years into the Switch, and I still never take it for granted just how amazing it is to have such high fidelity console games on a handheld system.
The game is very beautiful, it kinda solved my only real issue with Pikmin 3's visuals, that being that the overall texture and gemoetry was inconsistent, a lot of it looking outstanding but sometimes barely better than the first 2 games, probably becasue of the game originally starting development for the Wii and maybe keeping assests from that build. Here on Pikmin 4 everything looks with a consistently high level of quality on texture and gemoetry.
I really didn't expect such a huge jump in graphics quality from Pikmin 3 (Wii U) to Pikmin 4 (Switch) even more so considering that Switch hardware isn't much more powerful than Switch, but damn, Nintendo really knows how surprise me, the game is not only more beautiful than Pikmin 3, I would even say that it is one of the most beautiful games I have ever seen artistically speaking, it is magnificent to see it running on a handheld.
Absolutely agree
One of Nintendo's best series actually
Nope, actually its a underrated series.
Yup, and all set in Miyamoto's back garden.
Basically made the biggest leap in visual presentation at the cost of potential problematic resolution issues. But it really, really shows how hard Nintendo can stretch the absolutely ancient base hardware that the switch was made with and get something good. UE4 doesn't feel it's just there as a shortcut, it actually feels effectively used to create the most visually stunning Pikmin game to date. (Even technically is the most auditorally stunning as well, literally the most dynamic the series has gotten.) And no matter how you feel about the potential downgrades in certain respects the small sacrifices done for the game to look this good as a whole for a portable device, is literally classic Nintendo.
Tegra X1 wasn't ancient by any stretch in 2017. It Is now, after 7+ years.
@@MrMorotep Definitely Ancient both now, and relatively so in 2017 (a pretty cut down Maxwell Gen 2 gpu core from mid-late 2014, and the ARM A57 core design from 2012).
The game looks gorgeous! I’ve only just got to the second area (Blossoming Arcadia) but I’m really impressed in what they’ve squeezed out of the aging Switch. Ditto for TOTK.
The people complaining that a stunning real-time strategy game like Pikmin runs at 900p and 30fps make me wonder whether they are complaining for complaining's sake.
Like, you surely didn't intend to buy the game in the first place, so why pretend to be mad about it? =D
Thanks, Tom. Great to see the labor of love here highlighted so well; I might have missed or underappreciated some of this
Great to see more coverage of Pikmin 4. Really enjoying this chill game that's full of charm
Loving this game and it made me set Zelda aside for a while. Just nice having something a little more structured to play.
People are still playing Zelda?
@@nosouponhead Why wouldn't you still be playing Zelda?
@@nosouponheadIt just doesn't end. To me it's a bit too much. 80 hours and I got maybe half of it. That's just too much.
@@thelawyer95 idk i kinda like that, it means i can just play it throughout the whole year, on and off until im eventually done
No mention of the SSR? A real rarity on Switch! Looked great on the water.
I think he mentions it being in pikmin 3 and probably because it's a fairly old technique and hasn't improved since pikmin 3 there wasn't much point commenting further on it
Since we’re approaching the end of the Switch 1’s life, I wonder if this is a sign that more Nintendo EPD projects will use Unreal Engine 4/5 going forward.
Probably. With the Switch, they seem to be crumbling under the weight of increased development costs (time, staff and resources, not necessarily money) so moving to an engine that streamlines a lot of the busiwork would allow them to make better looking, more ambitious games at a faster rate. There's really nothing special about the 'Nintendo Engine' that is lost with the move to UE4. This still looks unmistakably like a Nintendo game, only now with anti-alising *THANK GOD.*
I hope not. I’d like to see the last few custom engines left hold on. They’ve obviously got some state of the art engine devs to pull off what they did in TotK so hopefully they keep that engine rolling onto Super Switch.
Some time ago Ningendo itself said that they already have master of developing with unreal engine
If this is the standard, I hope so.
likely more so the result of it being outsourced like they did with Pikmin 3 Deluxe
Gotta say, it looks much better(not just graphic design). I might need to pick this up.
Please try it! There is a demo of the first area if u want to give it a try first
With the way things are going at the moment I don’t know why someone would pick another console 🤷♂️ Sony and Microsoft have just been putting out one disappointment after another.
Been waiting for this one. Really enjoy seeing engineering feets done on such underpowered hardware.
Nintendo is the last of the great optimization companies left
All on 256 Maxwell Cuda cores... can't optimize any better than that.
@@omegawii
For context that's 1/2 a GTX 750 GPU.
You guys should install the mods for the game that crank the visual settings to max in UE4 and use it on an overclocked switch console
considering how good these late-gen switch games are looking, i'm excited to see what they can do with their next console.
Still amazed how Mario Kart 8 Deluxe looks with its perfect 60fps ☮️🙂💟
FYI, Oatchi is pronounced exactly how it looks in English: OH-chee. オッチン is his name in Japanese, which romanizes directly into Occhin, with a hard O sound.
OAT-CHI! Its like Oatmilk but the adorable puppy kind called OATCHI now say it with me oatchi
I just 100%ed this game.
The amount of content and the absolutely stunning length of this game is insane.
45 hours.
But also why are you doing this a month after the release?!?!?
I think they've just been busy haha they've all been dropping videos at a pretty insane rate recently
By modern game standards, 45 hours is just an average length game
@@mattspeer01 eh maybe RPGs but for the most part single player games are still 8 to 10 hours. That's how I like it too tbh any longer is just taking too much of my time grinding repetitive tasks
Shout out to Last of Us 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy for being long af and remaining interesting the whole way through
“o-wah-chi” 💀
Loved Pikmin on Gamecube back in the day. Very happy to see the series live on still today.
This game is absolutely brilliant. I have terrible ADD and have tried so hard to get into the last 3 games, which I own, but always strayed because it couldn't keep my attention. Boy is this one different! They essentially took the formula of a metroidvania, simplified it into bite sized chunks and then added in the Shrine (botw) and Cave (totk) concept from Zelda to give you constant satisfying breaks from the timer and outside world. Both are equally as engaging and rewarding while not getting stale as you're always progressing and unlocking new things. It's honestly the perfect formula, and I haven't been this deeply engaged in a game since 2017 with BOTW.
Bravo Nintendo!
Definitely one of the best looking Switch games along with Luigi's Mansion 3
The dog (oatchi) is oh-chee, not oh-ah-chee
Saw another review where they kept calling him "Oh-Tah-Chee". 😂
"Oatchi (pronounced oat-chee), resident good boy and dependable partner, can help with things like smashing obstacles and carrying Pikmin throughout your adventure."
This is from the Nintendo website. I think you're pronouncing his name wrong.
Yeah I noticed he was saying it weird as well
Love it when you cover tech pushing the switch! Wondering if witcher 3 latest next Gen patch could get a cover? 😍
I remember being able to turn on/off anti-aliasing in the original Gamecube version of Pikmin 2. I think it was called deflicker in the options menu.
That is true
That’s actually for 480i deflicker.
Most people have just been saying oat-chee, not oh-AH-chee
It's interesting to think what Nintendo might attempt with Unreal Engine on its next console.
Mario kart tour also uses unreal engine.
@@ahmedhasan4966tour uses Unity
"Oh at chi" lmaoo
Absolute masters of their craft
Was waiting for this video! I thought it couldn't just be me in thinking this game is one of the most technically impressive games on the Switch hardware. Sometimes developers really surprise me with what they're able to squeeze out of the little Tegra
While it’s a bit of a shame Nintendo hardware is no longer cutting edge, they always have an incredibly solid understanding of the technology and how to push it. I used to attribute a lot of it to their in-house engines, but that seems like a false equivalence now.
you mean their own in house engine, not Unreal Engine.. UE look beautiful but having performance issue meanwhile their inhouse engine still look beautiful and easily run at solid 60fps.. maybe they just want to experimenting with UE4 with pikmin 4
About time this video came out! Been waiting for it for weeks!
This is another one of those rare instances where an Unreal Engine game looks gorgeous on Switch.
Pikmin 4 is right now my GOTY, it is an amazing game
1:26 - Pikmin 4 added an _auto_ lock-on. Pikmin 3 was the 1st to have lock-on for the series.
We've also had a "Rewind" type feature since 1&2 were ported to the Wii.
1:56 - You really don't get that stuff "by default", especially the swimming.
Oatchi doesn't grow and become ride-able until you've rescued at least 1 Castaway, which would happen on Day 3 at the soonest.
While he only learns to swim after he's struggled in the water and grown. (2 days after struggling, to be specific.)
My favorite breakfast: OH-AT-Meal
I love pikmin 4 and I think the game looks gorgeous on the console
This game is begging for a Switch 2 upgrade.
I've played it through "other means" at 4k, and it looks incredible.
When the next Switch inevitably arrives I feel like Pikmin 4 will be one of the more talked about upgrades. With an increased dynamic res window along with dlss (maybe even dlss 3) boosting
the frame rate and cleaning up the aliasing the end result should look very Pixar-esque.
It does already
@@Patr1ck2332 It does have a nice CG look. But, I'm talking about once the aliasing is removed.
@@Dick_Valparaiso absolutely
This game and BG3 are my GOTYs so far.
I'm a little sad they didn't get it running at 720p in handheld. Mariokart 8 Deluxe runs at 720p 60fps, looks just as good, and is almost a decade old! But needing to support dynamic daylight means static lightmaps and reflection bakes aren't an option. Completely understandable why a 720p 30fps target isn't feasible, let alone 60fps.
I’m debating on picking this up. I have only played the 1st title on the GC many moons ago and skipped the rest. Other than that, the game looks great from all the videos I’ve watched.
I'd say grab it. It's new user friendly. I recommend going back and playing the third one, too. They're different enough to be enjoyable without making the other obsolete.
Try the demo!
Play the 3 first
Just play the demo…it’s easily 4 hours of content in it.
@@timothylewis2527 Oh yeah! I forgot about the demo. Thanks for the reminder. Lol
@@Luizanimadoyou don't need to play the other ones especially since this game is a reboot to the story
You can always depend on Nintendo to make a quality game
It looks great. I am not sure when I am going to be able to 'slot' Pikmin 4 in, to play it. I have so many great games right now I really want to play. But this definitely looks like a pickup. Glad to hear it has so many improvements over the admittedly pretty damn good Pikmin 3 Deluxe.
Nintendo making games in a framerate less than 60 fps is always gonna be a step backwards no matter how advanced the rendering pipeline is. Strong art and a solid framerate is what sets Nintendo-games apart from the rest. 30 fps and an overuse of postprocessing effects makes for cheap looking games and is below Nintendo imo.
so 720p docked and 540p handheld??
@@zultriova89 no i would have opted for baked shadows for the levels and blob shadows for the Pikmin. Realtime shadows for some larger characters only. I think that alone would free up a lot of resources. Realtime shadows looks like shit when rendered at this low resolution anyway.
ya know, people expecting much from cheap processor for almost 10 years ago.. original switch mean for 540p handheld and 720p/1080p docked (according to switch prototype from Nintendo dev partner) same as Wii U and they bump it to 720p and 1080p docked.. all the power and gpu heavily toward resolution rather than fps for games even with low textures than suitable for low resolution like 720p maximum.. I hate it too but gamer just asking for more resolution than fps.. even for switch 2 they want nintendo make it 4K portable..
If I had a nickel for every time Oatchi was pronounced wrong
Pretty fantastic for a handheld.
It's Oatchie like Oats
not O-at-chee
I like the fact that nintendo doesnt usually use AA. Ill take a jaggy clear image any day.
It isteribke they never use it
The switch always surprises me on what it can achieve on such a small platform.
Since you included comparisons to the work of modders for the Pikmin 1+2 review, it should be noted that modders have also made enhancements to Pikmin 4 by setting UE4’s graphical setting to higher values and have even bumped the performance to a native 60fps, albeit with some slight stutters. TH-camr and notable Pikmin modder Gunnadahun made a video showcasing both graphical and performance improvements through emulation before Nintendo took down the video for obvious reasons.
They probably would have shown it if Nintendo weren't so anal about people *legally* enjoying their games in ways that _they_ don't approve of.
You can even push it to 60 on native hardware if you tweak the LODs
Isn't it pronounced Oat-chi, not Ohwatchee😂😂
I love Pikmin.
Very pleased with Pikmin 4....I've been crazy for the series since day one and 4 is probably the best. My only gripe is it's a touch too easy, but Nintendo made all the right calls. Great to see so many people finally get why Pikmin is soooooo good. Now go check the Dandori challeneges on Pikmin 3.
As amazing as this looks, it’s a shame to see 1st party games not use a native Nintendo engine - would that not have allowed them to hit full native resolutions or is this no longer the case?
i think it one of nintendo experiment using unreal engine just like Yoshi game.. most of their other game using in house engine.. as Nintendo dev also learning Unity engine and Unreal Engine too..
Pikmin 4 is a great game!
Nintendo not using an in house engine is pretty notable.
oh, it's running on unreal? I was wondering what the deal was with those one-frame graphical glitches i'd see every so often
Makes you wonder if the next 3D Mario title on Switch 2 will also be on Unreal Engine. I guess it's because the toolset is just that good or the younger generation of devs just know it best?
"Easily the biggest leap forward visually for the series"... really? The leap from Pikmin 2 to Pikmin 3 seemed a lot more substantial to me.
Really looks beautiful.
It’s not Oh-At-Chi, ITS OATCHI!!!
I call him ochi
Great vid. But that pronunciation of Oatchi hurt my soul 😂
I'm always baffled at how people be complaining that the Switch is behind the current-gen consoles when not only is it last-gen, it's a handheld device. Nobody was mad that the GameBoy Advance only had the graphics of the SNES from 10 years before it lmao. Nintendo is taking hella trips to the bank while "gamers" out here running fiscal analysis on how Nintendo is "hurting" and "won't make it." Nintendo is a piece of shit from a PR ethics point of view, but homies out here butthurt because Pikmin 4 isn't 4k 60fps. A lot of people here should never own a business.
Why do some reviewers pronounce Oatchi incorrectly! It’s Oh-chi not Oh-at-chi! This was confirmed by Nintendo in their promo videos. Oh-at-chi just sounds so wrong! Come on all you lovers of Oh-chi, back me up!!!
The way he said Oatchi 😂😂
Unreal Engine? I need to see this game with path tracing
Friendly reminder - same console as pokemon
If you like Pikmin, don't forget to try Tinykin, which has similar gameplay!
Pikmin 3 deluxe is not a remaster is a port with extra content
My favorite Pikmin 4 character, Ohatchi
Did anyone ever figure out why Pikmin 3 Deluxe on Switch only ran at 720p??
easy port...
Ugh why did they add AA :/ I really dislike antialiasing.
Pikmin 3 looks better to me overall. More unique and textures feels a bit more detailed.
Gotta say, I think there have been serious diminishing returns with respect to graphics in the last 10 years. Pikmin 4 does look better than Pikmin 3, but only a little. The overall affect between the games as far as art is concerned is the same imo. Pikmin 3 could come out tomorrow and I'd still think it was gorgeous
Personally I didn’t feel much of a visual upgrade from Pikmin 3 to 4, maybe the Pikmin 3 visual was too astonishing already
It seems like something is wrong with the gamma settings in the Pikmin 3 captures in this video.
Game looks great, but the dithering used as a transparency effect, while cheap to render, just looks rough in my opinion.
I can't wait for Switch 2. If you look how amazing Pikmin 4 and Metroid Prime Remastered looks on the Switch OLED. I can't imagine how wonderful it's going to be playing Switch 2 games.
I think i still prefer the look of 3
Great report Tom. But O”ah”chi? No one calls him like that 😂
Nintendo is putting a lot of effort to keep Switch viable these days. And it shows. Also, I have been playing a lot of FF16 lately, and it baffles me how BAD rendering upscale is in that game. It's worse than in Horizon FW before patch that solved blurred upscaler there.
This game is gorgeous but i can't wait for the next system too, imagine this at 1080p 60fps
Seriously tho how did they do this? This !looks better than some ps4 games
technical wizards at a company that doesn’t lay off staff after every project