Yes I wish this would be the future for her but I am at least thankfully that she will be able to live out the rest of her life under the ocean. I must admit this is a much better outcome than her being scrapped and lost to history.
Just like the unitedstates if the co mmie dems get the white house again they both will be sunk.this ship will no longer exist.an artificial reef it then will be.like sunken ships gone
I agree, it's just a shame that some of our illustrious billionaires couldn't spend a few of their $$$ to save and preserve this American icon instead of building rockets to joyride into space for an hour. It's pretty sad that we have a British ship, the Queen Mary in California, but are unable (unwilling?) to find a home for our own Historic ocean liner.
As a young boy. We left England in 1962 to come home to the States. My parents decided to take our journey on the SS United States. I still remember how beautiful she is. We'd go down to the kennel to visit our Golden Retriever.. .Walking around on deck looking up at those most beautiful Stacks.. i see her sitting at port off US 95 in Philadelphia.. I only wish our Government would do something to preserve this legacy.
Terrible! Sad that they couldn’t find a way to preserve it. Used to live nearby and would see it deteriorate. Even in its current condition it was a magnificent vessel.
Je partage totalement votre point de vue...et qu'il ne termine pas comme notre paquebot France que nous avons abandonné pendant des années le long d'un quai ...
@@jacquespollet7999I sailed many times on the ex ‘SS France’ when she became the SS Norway up until her fateful boiler explosion. She was my favourite ship and fortunately some of the magnificent interiors remained largely intact, such as the first class dining room. In my opinion she was far superior to the QE2, she felt much grander with larger interiors, higher deck heights and with that wonderful promenade deck. Sadly missed.
@@jacquespollet7999THIS IS A TRUE STORY!!!!! As the SS NORMANDIE was being pumped and filled with Hudson River water as a result of a welders torch fire during her conversion to the SS LAFAYETTE. The marine engineer who designed her was there screaming at the firemen to STOP! SHES GOING TO LIST AND SINK. They passed this old man as crazy. There she lay in her side at Pier 88 for years.
A disgraceful act of vandalism to deliberately destroy such an icon. How much would it cost to rub down, repaint and put on show in New York harbour as a static exhibit
She wouldn't last in a salt water port - most important part in preserving any historic ship is to move it to fresh water. Or like they did in Long Beach, build a breakwater all around it and keep the ship itself in fresh water even if the adjacent harbor is salt water.
goodbye to SS United States, its a bittersweet end for the grand old lady, as a ship nerd it's awful to see her go, but she'll outlive all of us now and she's been spared the same fate as liners such as Olympic and Mauretania, or sitting there and rusting for decades
Such a waste. This pisses me off beyond belief. This ship is such a part of US history. Should be saved and toured. Still holds the blue riband for crying out loud. It was American engineering at its finest.
EXACTLY!!!!!!! The Government throws money on others, BUT!, for the US-built Ocean Liner, the only one left, they turned the eye. The SS UNITED STATES deserved the same treatment as the Queen Mary!!!!!!!!!!
When the Queen Mary was retired from service, it traveled on a final cruise, intact, under its own power, with passengers, from England, around Cape Horn and to California. It went directly from revenue passenger service to tourist attraction without decades of neglect. It would cost a fortune to restore the United States to any semblance of its former self.
55+ years was more than enough to restore it and save it. Shamefully, it had to happen, but after the interior and artifacts were auctioned off, imho that pretty much sealed it's fate.
True. At one time I thought if nothing else the bridge and one of the staterooms might be preserved as museum exhibits but they're gone as well, the whole ship's an empty shell. There's nothing inside but bare steel.
And so the SS United States ship will sink into history as her very namesake is slowly doing on land. Everything has a life expectancy. The ship and her namesake nation seemingly…and sadly are on similar paths these days.
I hate that people don’t seem to get that these people have been trying their absolute hardest to save the ship for so many years. If they didn’t fight for this long, she‘d have already probably been at the bottom of the ocean for years at this point
Not true, they didn't know what they doing. The day the auctioned off her interior and artifacts was they day we all who had been keeping up with her knew her fate was sealed.
"Why? I did you so proud. Made a name for myself, those who built me, and the name I carried. You stripped me down to nothing and tried to pass me off as something. How'd that work out for both of us? Nice try for the last 30 yrs to rebuild what I had, as you stripped me to my bones because you thought you knew better. At least now, I can rest in peace. In the water I was meant to be in, while still being inviting, at least to a select few." - S.S. United States
With hindsight, the Conservancy not taking an offer of free berthing in Brooklyn is what probably did her in more than anything. Not having to pay harbor fees would have meant donations could go towards cleaning her up enough to then market for visitors, even with the interior looking rough. Realistically she was never going to be fully restored, but just getting her into a state where tours could be done in some reconstructed spaces would have been enough I think to save her. Alas, she was just unlucky. Farewell beautiful lady, you deserved so much more
The Florida wreck divers sounded like they are more interested in preserving the ships legacy than the group that tried to save it. (If they actually restore the smoke stacks and as a museum exhibit, it will bring in more people than just wreck divers.
Once it's gone, it's gone. Keep in mind that this was made in a time when we could make such things. We can't make things like this anymore. Maybe we shouldn't throw this away while we're scatterbrained.
It is what it is unfortunately. People tried their best to save her but it was to no avail. This co(u)ntry is completely lost, and once people realize that then they will be better off. This whole controversy regarding the ship is just another clear example of this, since if the U.S still had prime in itself they would have stepped in.
Hi Jaime its Jennifer I spoke to the conservancy and OKALOOSA county government. At my request I asked kindly could they remove the smoke stacks and crows nest. It doesn't need to go down with the ship. I also requested that any operational gages and other working equipment to be donated to the last remaining American ferry ship the SS Badger also built 1951 in Michigan. The badger is running out of parts to use . JAIME LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO FLORIDA. I WILL MEET YOU THERE. PEOPLE THAT ARE READING THIS YOU HAVE 3 MONTHS BEFORE THEY STRIP THE SHIP ANY FURTHER AND ONE YEAR BEFORE THEY SINK HER TO SAVE THE SHIP AND TELL OKALOOSA COUNTY TO DEVELOPE THE SS UNITED STATES INSTEAD OF SINKING HER 😢
This entire situation is so disheartening. I am devastated after coming to know this ship a few years back and donating whatever I could to help with keeping her there. I just do not agree with reefing her. Don't understand why there isn't any other location for her to remain above water like she was intended for.
It's rusting away! It will never be refurbished. Don't know if it is still or ever will be seaworthy. It would take probably a billion dollars, after spending millions on having moored and rusting away. If they can't afford the berthing, how will they ever afford a restoration?
Exacto. Solamente un filantropo podria aportar capital para acondicionar esa nave. La inversion es economicamente inviable y nunca se recuperaria. Si hay alguien que aporta el dinero sabe que nunca lo recuperara. Por eso hablo de un filantropo!!
I grew up in Virginia Beach and was on the First Island of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel that dreary, misty morning this magnificent liner left her home waters of Hampton Roads being towed to Turkey behind an Ocean going tug. The promised resurrection never happened.
Two queens actually. Queen Mary, and the Saudies beautifully restored Queen Elizabeth II . this is the new United States ( country) remember? We obliterate our icons and statues.
@@styldsteel1 The United States as our (F)ounding F(a)thers envisioned it is gone, it died a long time ago. This is just another example of how our once great country only exists in the past now.
The timing for the QM fell in place. Everything had to align perfectly in the late 1960s for the ship to remain intact. Around the same time, the Queen Elizabeth liner was also retired. But after a short time moored north of Miami, it eventually burned down in Hong Kong harbor. The QE2, a relic of the late 1960s (when the QM & QE retired), is struggling as a floating business in Dubai, UAE. The QM since its premiere year in 1972 as the same thing has faced a lot of ups & downs.
Somewhere, beyond the sea… I’ll never again, will go sailin’… This is America for you. We don’t give one shit about preserving our history for others to enjoy and learn from, we just let it rot away and disappear.
Imagine if a consortium of American and international companies (particularly defence contractors) united to restore the SS United States as a tribute to freedom and democracy. Had their chance, muffed it.
"More could have been done". Like what exactly? The ship was being evicted, there was nowhere to go and a redevelopment plan would have cost the best part of a billion dollars. If you have the money get in touch with them.
@@JaimeExploring Somebody posted I think on facebook today?? That the company that owns the dock. Is demanding a 3 million dollar payment. Before the ship can leave. Have you heard anything about this??
I will admit, there is one positive coming out of all of this. The SS United States is not going to be broken up for scrap, and people will still be able to see the once proud ship on the bottom of the ocean, just like with Titanic and Britannic.
The conservancy had it in their head all along that they were going to transform it into a major tourist attraction in New York. When that didn't work out, they could have donated the ship to a number of history-based port cities that would've gladly taken her. I'm close to New Orleans, we have a huge shipyard here that rebuilds everything from naval vessels to modern cruise ships, it wouldn't have been a big deal to dry dock her here, slap on fresh paint, and conduct fund raising to rebuild her interiors while she waited in a fresh water port. Their greed and their narrow-minded approach led to this disaster. They need to be ashamed of themselves.
I don't know the intimate details of how it came to this, but I feel genuinely sorry for your country concerning what is being contemplated for this magnificent, unique ship. Of all the nations of the world I cannot believe the wealthy United States is going to capitulate and destroy its very self for no good reason.
No 1 million for the ship plus the 150 grand they raised for moving the ship. I sure hope the Lenfest estate goes after the conservancy. They do not deserve to keep the money. Read somewhere when they sell the ship the money it is supposed to be returned.
Understand why everybody cares about this but why did it have to take until it’s literal demise for us to actually start to save it? It doesn’t really make sense.
A. Nobody can look away from a train wreck B. Because the ship was docked in a inaccessible area that did not offer regular tours or video updates. Prior to all this the only video I'd ever seen of the inside was abandoned Steve's 5 part series. C. Queen Mary faltering thru several bankruptcies which if your an investor or developer is definitely not a good precedent if you're planning on running the same script on the east coast. In the middle of a recession no less It's less nobody cared as it is for decades you basically had to be in the know to get any actual information about the ship. And those who did couldn't really touch her with the financial conditions of the time
"why did it have to take until it's literal demise" it didn't. The SS United States has had effort after effort to preserve her for years upon years now. The ship has been in Philidelphia since 1992, so I'm genuinely surprised that Philidelphia is letting this happen, since a lot of people would say she's become a local landmark.
Thank you, Susan Gibbs, for saving the ship from the scrapers. Your Grandfather would be proud of you. The SS United States will start her new career as a habitat for marine life. ❤
Plus, to be honest, it’s better than being scrapped a giant artificial reef is exactly what we need. Just imagine this in 100 years. It’ll probably be a massive reef with life and beautiful nis. That’s a pretty good thing to be remembered for right.
"That's a pretty good thing to be remembered for right" no. She will sit at the bottom and rust away until nothing is left, and in 15-20+ years the younger generations won't even remember her. And IF they do then you can bet that this decision will be looked upon with aminosity for a long time, and will go down as one of the greatest mistakes/darkest hours of maritime preservation.
@@FrederickTheAnon14W dude how do you know that the ship won’t be remembered. You know your just guessing that it will get forgotten like how do you know that it will. And to be honest already the younger generation doesn’t know of its existence only the kids that like ships know about it
It is a dark moment in our countries history that we relegate a ship that not only bears our country’s name, but still holds the Blue Ribband, is structurally as sound as when new, to the ocean floor. We have one of our Presidential nominees that has amassed a Billion dollars…money spent on busses, stickers, pizzas and banners, while something with such meaning, the ability to outlast us all, is destroyed. Our priorities are trash.
It's so sad, but it is for the best. The best chance the Big U would've had probably would've been the early 1980s before the interior fittings were auctioned off. If you went back to 1982, bought it from Richard Hadley and put it in a floating hotel/museum setup a la Queen Mary, and had a city to care for it, she might have had a chance. If NCL bought her instead of the France, they would've run her into the ground and a boiler still would've given out in the early 2000s, and she would've been scrapped like the France/Norway was.
I wish This could’ve been turned into a Maritime or some kind of museum ship that has everything about ocean liners and ships from the white Star fleet to lighthouse lenses, fog horns, engines and so much more You don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone There are lots of things like this that need money the rich people with that money expect the poor to pay
I dont think this is a new era they are killing 2 things the SS United States and Brittanics title as largest passenger ship on the seabed😢 and also this ship holds the blue ribbon WHY
This ship needs to be saved! Hopefully Trump, our government, or somebody gets involved to stop this and save it. If we can waste billions on Ukraine we can spend a little money restoring this magnificent piece of history. This ship still holds the world record for fastest transatlantic speed. And we need to stop littering our oceans with garbage.
What a sad ending, the great Lady done wrong. Better to scrap her and use her strong body for new things then have men making money off her like a prostitute and leaving her just another wreck at the bottom of the ocean.
"Heartbroken but hopeful"?!.She just signed the ships death warrant.This is a tragic decision.Shame on that wharf landlord at Philadelphia port for being the insanely greedy instigator for this woeful outcome.A very sad day..
It's so sad to see a historic ship destroyed! With all the billionaires out there, you think one would step up and save a piece of American history. The Walton family could easily save this ship and others.....sad.
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The SS United States Conservancy Ceremony Signing, Stewards bid Farewell
Sad Days Ahead
Pouvez vous me dire à quoi sert cette signature et quel est véritablement la dernière destination de cette " vieille dame " ?
OKALOOSA county Florida. Ship will sunk and turned into a tourist and diving destination😢@@jacquespollet7999
And by the way, the Pier in NYC still says UNITED STATES LINES. Today. Right now.
Yes I wish this would be the future for her but I am at least thankfully that she will be able to live out the rest of her life under the ocean. I must admit this is a much better outcome than her being scrapped and lost to history.
This is just disgraceful. That thing should just be preserved in Norfolk, not forgotten about in the onslaught of carcentric America.
Hoping something may still change
First, the Boeing 747 was discontinued, and now THIS??? I HATE THIS Fate!!!!!😡😡😡
Totally agree. This is so infuriating and disheartening!
Just like the unitedstates if the co mmie dems get the white house again they both will be sunk.this ship will no longer exist.an artificial reef it then will be.like sunken ships gone
Unfortunate for sure
Maybe someone or corporation will step forward
and most likely forgotten
Ss United States should be saved and put at a safe dock in New York and not under ocean in Florida
I agree 110% theyres no excuse in this
Hoping that it could have been a better turnout
Blame the by governor
I agree, it's just a shame that some of our illustrious billionaires couldn't spend a few of their $$$ to save and preserve this American icon instead of building rockets to joyride into space for an hour. It's pretty sad that we have a British ship, the Queen Mary in California, but are unable (unwilling?) to find a home for our own Historic ocean liner.
It’s America they don’t value history. It would rather preserve a British ship, a.k.a. the queen Mary rather than their own
As a young boy. We left England in 1962 to come home to the States. My parents decided to take our journey on the SS United States. I still remember how beautiful she is. We'd go down to the kennel to visit our Golden Retriever.. .Walking around on deck looking up at those most beautiful Stacks.. i see her sitting at port off US 95 in Philadelphia.. I only wish our Government would do something to preserve this legacy.
Thank You for sharing
@@JaimeExploring
No..Thank You !!
Thank You for listening.
Instead our government would rather send billions elsewhere. This ocean liner should be preserved!
@@RedElephantAllyYeah. Our govt has been hijacked
Terrible! Sad that they couldn’t find a way to preserve it. Used to live nearby and would see it deteriorate. Even in its current condition it was a magnificent vessel.
everyone looked very Sad
“Heartbroken” if they really cared she wouldn’t be getting sunk.
Hello! QueenMary Stan 😊
So scrap?
@@americanloyalist458 no, preserved.
@@QueenMaryStan not a option
@@americanloyalist458 and why is that.
Very sad that one of the richest countries in the world isn’t prepared to restore and preserve a national treasure.
Je partage totalement votre point de vue...et qu'il ne termine pas comme notre paquebot France que nous avons abandonné pendant des années le long d'un quai ...
@@jacquespollet7999I sailed many times on the ex ‘SS France’ when she became the SS Norway up until her fateful boiler explosion. She was my favourite ship and fortunately some of the magnificent interiors remained largely intact, such as the first class dining room. In my opinion she was far superior to the QE2, she felt much grander with larger interiors, higher deck heights and with that wonderful promenade deck. Sadly missed.
@@jacquespollet7999THIS IS A TRUE STORY!!!!! As the SS NORMANDIE was being pumped and filled with Hudson River water as a result of a welders torch fire during her conversion to the SS LAFAYETTE. The marine engineer who designed her was there screaming at the firemen to STOP! SHES GOING TO LIST AND SINK. They passed this old man as crazy.
There she lay in her side at Pier 88 for years.
Very True
Ne need to send all of our money to Ukraine. Get it?
A disgraceful act of vandalism to deliberately destroy such an icon. How much would it cost to rub down, repaint and put on show in New York harbour as a static exhibit
Thank You for sharing this
She wouldn't last in a salt water port - most important part in preserving any historic ship is to move it to fresh water. Or like they did in Long Beach, build a breakwater all around it and keep the ship itself in fresh water even if the adjacent harbor is salt water.
So sad, a metphor for America. It could have been restored and made into a hotel like Queen Mary in Long Beach.
I think so!
goodbye to SS United States, its a bittersweet end for the grand old lady, as a ship nerd it's awful to see her go, but she'll outlive all of us now and she's been spared the same fate as liners such as Olympic and Mauretania, or sitting there and rusting for decades
Thank You for sharing the Insights
Sin dudas tendra un final digno ante lo ya inevitable
"goodbye, you American beauty"
"Its not goodbye... I'll always be around, just in another view"
Very True
@The_East_Charleston_Railway on the bottom.out of normal sight
Such a waste. This pisses me off beyond belief. This ship is such a part of US history. Should be saved and toured. Still holds the blue riband for crying out loud. It was American engineering at its finest.
Thank You for sharing 😊
EXACTLY!!!!!!! The Government throws money on others, BUT!, for the US-built Ocean Liner, the only one left, they turned the eye. The SS UNITED STATES deserved the same treatment as the Queen Mary!!!!!!!!!!
😢 it s a shame
Unfortunate
When the Queen Mary was retired from service, it traveled on a final cruise, intact, under its own power, with passengers, from England, around Cape Horn and to California. It went directly from revenue passenger service to tourist attraction without decades of neglect. It would cost a fortune to restore the United States to any semblance of its former self.
Thank You for sharing, you're correct, others have shared the same Insights
This is the fate of the fastest passenger ship to cross the Atlantic...EVER? Inexplicable.
Maybe something can change in the next few months Yet they signed those papers
There goes the "conservancy's" money grab. Years and years of donations for absolutely nothing but storage and salaries.
It's Unfortunate after all these years, nothing could get done
They were non profit volunteers, all their irs documents are readily available online....Noone got rich
Such a moronic comment - nobody got rich out of this, it needed a lot more money than the donations.
It cost 65K a month (a month!) just to pay the dock fees. Nobody made money from this.
@@myopinioncountsmost2419 aufwiedersehen das boot
55+ years was more than enough to restore it and save it.
Shamefully, it had to happen, but after the interior and artifacts were auctioned off, imho that pretty much sealed it's fate.
I think so !
Exacto. Lo dejaron morir!!! Ahora es tarde
True. At one time I thought if nothing else the bridge and one of the staterooms might be preserved as museum exhibits but they're gone as well, the whole ship's an empty shell. There's nothing inside but bare steel.
And so the SS United States ship will sink into history as her very namesake is slowly doing on land.
Everything has a life expectancy. The ship and her namesake nation seemingly…and sadly are on similar paths these days.
Thank You
thanks for the update Jaime !
@@joep4235 Hello! Joe, Welcome 😃
I hate that people don’t seem to get that these people have been trying their absolute hardest to save the ship for so many years. If they didn’t fight for this long, she‘d have already probably been at the bottom of the ocean for years at this point
True, Thanks for sharing
I dunno. After they brought her here, you never heard much about her. She just became something in the background after awhile.
Not true, they didn't know what they doing. The day the auctioned off her interior and artifacts was they day we all who had been keeping up with her knew her fate was sealed.
A waste of precious metal, it seems they rather mine, with all negative impact, than save resources... this is being 'green' anno 2024
Yes a Waste 😔
"Why? I did you so proud. Made a name for myself, those who built me, and the name I carried. You stripped me down to nothing and tried to pass me off as something. How'd that work out for both of us? Nice try for the last 30 yrs to rebuild what I had, as you stripped me to my bones because you thought you knew better. At least now, I can rest in peace. In the water I was meant to be in, while still being inviting, at least to a select few."
- S.S. United States
Thank You 🙏😊
With hindsight, the Conservancy not taking an offer of free berthing in Brooklyn is what probably did her in more than anything. Not having to pay harbor fees would have meant donations could go towards cleaning her up enough to then market for visitors, even with the interior looking rough. Realistically she was never going to be fully restored, but just getting her into a state where tours could be done in some reconstructed spaces would have been enough I think to save her.
Alas, she was just unlucky. Farewell beautiful lady, you deserved so much more
Thank You for sharing
This is a much better fate than scrapping to be honest, and it just means that I’ll have a reason to learn how to scuba-dive!
Thank You for sharing
17 YEARS?!?!? How could an awesome ship like this only last 17 years?!
Built to last for Years 👍
Because it was built to be transatlantic ocean liner. Once jet travel became available and cheap enough, all the liners like this became obsolete.
This is one of the many reasons Philadelphia sucks...
The city had nothing to do with the ship...
@@gordonsflash8612 I'm just joking man
Its gonna sink just like the country its named after...
It’s not Philadelphia. The federal government should have stepped up. But they’re too busy sending all of our money to Ukraine.
@neonnoodle1169 OMG so true man, screw this anti-american administration 😡😡
We should save the SS United States.
The Florida wreck divers sounded like they are more interested in preserving the ships legacy than the group that tried to save it. (If they actually restore the smoke stacks and as a museum exhibit, it will bring in more people than just wreck divers.
Yes! 👍
Once it's gone, it's gone. Keep in mind that this was made in a time when we could make such things. We can't make things like this anymore.
Maybe we shouldn't throw this away while we're scatterbrained.
Your correct, We don't make things like this anymore
I think removing the funnels before it's sunk is misguided. Tantamount to defacing a grand old lady by removing her jewelry before she's buried.
It is what it is unfortunately. People tried their best to save her but it was to no avail. This co(u)ntry is completely lost, and once people realize that then they will be better off. This whole controversy regarding the ship is just another clear example of this, since if the U.S still had prime in itself they would have stepped in.
Thank You for sharing
I wish they could of saved it love from ireland❤
Greetings! Ireland
@@JaimeExploring top of the morning to you
@Hyena-g2z Hello 🤗
@@JaimeExploring hi
Hi Jaime its Jennifer
I spoke to the conservancy and OKALOOSA county government. At my request I asked kindly could they remove the smoke stacks and crows nest. It doesn't need to go down with the ship. I also requested that any operational gages and other working equipment to be donated to the last remaining American ferry ship the SS Badger also built 1951 in Michigan. The badger is running out of parts to use . JAIME LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO FLORIDA. I WILL MEET YOU THERE. PEOPLE THAT ARE READING THIS YOU HAVE 3 MONTHS BEFORE THEY STRIP THE SHIP ANY FURTHER AND ONE YEAR BEFORE THEY SINK HER TO SAVE THE SHIP AND TELL OKALOOSA COUNTY TO DEVELOPE THE SS UNITED STATES INSTEAD OF SINKING HER 😢
Thank You
This entire situation is so disheartening. I am devastated after coming to know this ship a few years back and donating whatever I could to help with keeping her there. I just do not agree with reefing her. Don't understand why there isn't any other location for her to remain above water like she was intended for.
It's rusting away! It will never be refurbished. Don't know if it is still or ever will be seaworthy. It would take probably a billion dollars, after spending millions on having moored and rusting away. If they can't afford the berthing, how will they ever afford a restoration?
Exacto. Solamente un filantropo podria aportar capital para acondicionar esa nave.
La inversion es economicamente inviable y nunca se recuperaria. Si hay alguien que aporta el dinero sabe que nunca lo recuperara. Por eso hablo de un filantropo!!
Thank You for sharing
I grew up in Virginia Beach and was on the First Island of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel that dreary, misty morning this magnificent liner
left her home waters of Hampton Roads being towed to Turkey behind an Ocean going tug. The promised resurrection never happened.
Thank You for sharing
I think the person who owned her at that time had passed away??
Big bunch of idiots and morons
Destroying this ship is absolutely horrible and stupid
Unfortunate that no person or company came forward to Save
Why can’t she be preserved like the queen Mary? Why do we treat a British oceaner with way more respect than our own?
Two queens actually. Queen Mary, and the Saudies beautifully restored Queen Elizabeth II .
this is the new United States ( country) remember? We obliterate our icons and statues.
@@styldsteel1 The United States as our (F)ounding F(a)thers envisioned it is gone, it died a long time ago. This is just another example of how our once great country only exists in the past now.
The timing for the QM fell in place. Everything had to align perfectly in the late 1960s for the ship to remain intact. Around the same time, the Queen Elizabeth liner was also retired. But after a short time moored north of Miami, it eventually burned down in Hong Kong harbor. The QE2, a relic of the late 1960s (when the QM & QE retired), is struggling as a floating business in Dubai, UAE. The QM since its premiere year in 1972 as the same thing has faced a lot of ups & downs.
@@gridley happy to report there is a lot of Interest in Queen Mary. As of late, She is turning profit, and her restoration is well underway.
Interesting for sure
ohhhh so now they feel sad well, they should be if the ship was taken to new York as planned none of this would have happened period
Everyone looked very sad for sure
@@JaimeExploring well i have heard a rumor that a movement company is gonna try and save it, but im not sure if its true or not
So sad but at least she will get a burial deserving of her history.
Yes
Welcome to your new "PENN STATION.".......
😢
Wow Exactly
No ocean liner deserves to bent to the bottom of the ocean as an artificial reef. Warships, yes. Ocean liners, absolutely not!
In a month we will see her get towed
How about keep the whole damn ship as a museum piece instead of the stacks???
Have you got hundreds of millions of $$$ to do it?
Yes
@@TRexo-ds5ze stop sending money to home illegals in this country right there is more than plenty to completely restore it
Somewhere, beyond the sea…
I’ll never again, will go sailin’…
This is America for you.
We don’t give one shit about preserving our history for others to enjoy and learn from, we just let it rot away and disappear.
Still hoping that something will change
Imagine if a consortium of American and international companies (particularly defence contractors) united to restore the SS United States as a tribute to freedom and democracy.
Had their chance, muffed it.
Yes they had the opportunity
Internally, she had all the charm of a 1950's Howard Johnsons motel.
Thanks for sharing 😊
At least she still dodged the scrapyard
She Did !
Heartbreaking. Waa on ship with my grandparents
Wow! 😀
Just a look at its awful condition makes it clear that the Conservancy has been unable to conserve the ship even to minimal standards.
Thank You Peter, I notice the same thing
RIP, SS United States. Enjoy your future home down in Florida.
Hope things work out
This is very sad
Yes
We've officially lost, farwell SS US. :C
Unfortunate
Adeu Big U.
Yes
well, at least shes not being scrapped. plus the museum will be cool.
Will See, Thank You for visiting
so stupid you don't need a memory museum you have the ship still save it
Hoping that something can still change
They better at least make models for her
Yes 🙌
Biggest ever con and got many exited for a good future. More could of been done. TOTAL WASTE OF EVERYONES MONEY
"More could have been done". Like what exactly? The ship was being evicted, there was nowhere to go and a redevelopment plan would have cost the best part of a billion dollars. If you have the money get in touch with them.
Maybe something will still happen
When will it leave?
In about a Month
@@JaimeExploring Somebody posted I think on facebook today?? That the company that owns the dock. Is demanding a 3 million dollar payment. Before the ship can leave. Have you heard anything about this??
позорно будет творить историю на дне гнить в качестве рифа а не музея как Квин Мэри 👍
Exactly!
I will admit, there is one positive coming out of all of this. The SS United States is not going to be broken up for scrap, and people will still be able to see the once proud ship on the bottom of the ocean, just like with Titanic and Britannic.
Glad it's not being Scrapped
The conservancy had it in their head all along that they were going to transform it into a major tourist attraction in New York. When that didn't work out, they could have donated the ship to a number of history-based port cities that would've gladly taken her. I'm close to New Orleans, we have a huge shipyard here that rebuilds everything from naval vessels to modern cruise ships, it wouldn't have been a big deal to dry dock her here, slap on fresh paint, and conduct fund raising to rebuild her interiors while she waited in a fresh water port. Their greed and their narrow-minded approach led to this disaster. They need to be ashamed of themselves.
I don't know the intimate details of how it came to this, but I feel genuinely sorry for your country concerning what is being contemplated for this magnificent, unique ship. Of all the nations of the world I cannot believe the wealthy United States is going to capitulate and destroy its very self for no good reason.
They couldn't give the ship away! A ship sitting at a quayside still costs a fortune to maintain and secure.
I'm sure it would be difficult to give away and donate Yet Thank You you for sharing
She could be saved but corporate greed gets our nations flagship :(
Interesting with all the money, nothing got done
It was on philly for 28 years and barely made rent where was the 1 billion coming from for the rehab?
If I could buy it 😢
Exactly
Na endlich kommt der Schandfleck weg.
Who? You?
Unfortunate, maybe something will change in the next year or so
So the conservancy gets a 9 million dollar pay day?
No 1 million for the ship plus the 150 grand they raised for moving the ship. I sure hope the Lenfest estate goes after the conservancy. They do not deserve to keep the money. Read somewhere when they sell the ship the money it is supposed to be returned.
Thank You for sharing Update
you do not sink such a ship.
If anything, it could have made a beautiful backdrop somewhere, if they would have just painted the Ship. Then built a museum around it
Understand why everybody cares about this but why did it have to take until it’s literal demise for us to actually start to save it? It doesn’t really make sense.
A. Nobody can look away from a train wreck
B. Because the ship was docked in a inaccessible area that did not offer regular tours or video updates. Prior to all this the only video I'd ever seen of the inside was abandoned Steve's 5 part series.
C. Queen Mary faltering thru several bankruptcies which if your an investor or developer is definitely not a good precedent if you're planning on running the same script on the east coast. In the middle of a recession no less
It's less nobody cared as it is for decades you basically had to be in the know to get any actual information about the ship. And those who did couldn't really touch her with the financial conditions of the time
@@thekidfromcleveland3944 huh?
"why did it have to take until it's literal demise" it didn't. The SS United States has had effort after effort to preserve her for years upon years now. The ship has been in Philidelphia since 1992, so I'm genuinely surprised that Philidelphia is letting this happen, since a lot of people would say she's become a local landmark.
@@FrederickTheAnon14W well I guess Even that was not enough to save the ship 😞
Unfortunate 😔
Sad
Yes, everyone looked very Sad
Anyone who sinks this ship are those who betrayed God.
It's Unfortunate after all these years, nothing got done
That's a stupid comment...
I blame Joe Biden. The president is MIA on this! Imagine what just a fraction of the Ukrainian money.
They petition the White House Yet they never got a word back
You dont think peoples lives are more important than a rusted out wreck!
This is one thing Joe is right about. The government has no business spending money on a privately owned derelict liner.
Thank you, Susan Gibbs, for saving the ship from the scrapers. Your Grandfather would be proud of you. The SS United States will start her new career as a habitat for marine life. ❤
What she is really unhappy about is she will no longer be able to collect a pay cheque. From the donated money.
Thank You 👍
Plus, to be honest, it’s better than being scrapped a giant artificial reef is exactly what we need. Just imagine this in 100 years. It’ll probably be a massive reef with life and beautiful nis. That’s a pretty good thing to be remembered for right.
"That's a pretty good thing to be remembered for right" no. She will sit at the bottom and rust away until nothing is left, and in 15-20+ years the younger generations won't even remember her. And IF they do then you can bet that this decision will be looked upon with aminosity for a long time, and will go down as one of the greatest mistakes/darkest hours of maritime preservation.
@@FrederickTheAnon14W dude how do you know that the ship won’t be remembered. You know your just guessing that it will get forgotten like how do you know that it will. And to be honest already the younger generation doesn’t know of its existence only the kids that like ships know about it
Very Unfortunate after all these years nothing could get done
It is a dark moment in our countries history that we relegate a ship that not only bears our country’s name, but still holds the Blue Ribband, is structurally as sound as when new, to the ocean floor. We have one of our Presidential nominees that has amassed a Billion dollars…money spent on busses, stickers, pizzas and banners, while something with such meaning, the ability to outlast us all, is destroyed. Our priorities are trash.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Very true regarding our Country's NAME
Kind of reflects our country now. Doesn't it
@@styldsteel1 Yes, and as an American, it truly makes me extremely saddened to realize this.
@@Teacher659 truly. I am just sick to my stomach. Sick
It's so sad, but it is for the best. The best chance the Big U would've had probably would've been the early 1980s before the interior fittings were auctioned off. If you went back to 1982, bought it from Richard Hadley and put it in a floating hotel/museum setup a la Queen Mary, and had a city to care for it, she might have had a chance. If NCL bought her instead of the France, they would've run her into the ground and a boiler still would've given out in the early 2000s, and she would've been scrapped like the France/Norway was.
Thank You for sharing the details
It should have been saved and preserved. A very sad statement of what life is like in the 21 Century.
Yes
I wish This could’ve been turned into a Maritime or some kind of museum ship that has everything about ocean liners and ships from the white Star fleet to lighthouse lenses, fog horns, engines and so much more
You don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone
There are lots of things like this that need money the rich people with that money expect the poor to pay
Very True! Thank You
This makes me sick 😞
Hoping for a better outcome
I dont think this is a new era they are killing 2 things the SS United States and Brittanics title as largest passenger ship on the seabed😢 and also this ship holds the blue ribbon WHY
They had many years, perhaps opportunities to restore the Ship
People say scrapping her would be worse but sinking her its just the same but slower isn't that the way they scrap larger vessels
From what I Understand when you scrap a ship it's piece by piece nothing's tossed back into the ocean
“A new era” right, *under the sea.*
There is no new era. She'll sit down there and rust away until nothing is left. Sure it'll take a while, but eventually it'll be gone.
The conservancy staff looked very sad
This is depressing, that ship looks so good
Looks Amazing, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of video of her when she gets transferred
This ship needs to be saved! Hopefully Trump, our government, or somebody gets involved to stop this and save it. If we can waste billions on Ukraine we can spend a little money restoring this magnificent piece of history. This ship still holds the world record for fastest transatlantic speed. And we need to stop littering our oceans with garbage.
Maybe something could still happen
What a sad ending, the great Lady done wrong. Better to scrap her and use her strong body for new things then have men making money off her like a prostitute and leaving her just another wreck at the bottom of the ocean.
Very Sad Ending for sure
"Heartbroken but hopeful"?!.She just signed the ships death warrant.This is a tragic decision.Shame on that wharf landlord at Philadelphia port for being the insanely greedy instigator for this woeful outcome.A very sad day..
Very Unfortunate
It's so sad to see a historic ship destroyed! With all the billionaires out there, you think one would step up and save a piece of American history. The Walton family could easily save this ship and others.....sad.
These billionaires don't care about (A)merica, when are you going to realize that?
Was hoping someone or a company was going to step in
Why would they? Your interest s obviously differ from theirs...
What a shame it could not be saved.I guess all the billionaires in the US are too busy counting their profits to give a few $$$$$ to save the ship.
The rich people with the money always expect the poor to pay
Unfortunate