Never would I have thought the grand mysterious master of darkness would say the word humdinger, not only that, but to sound so chillax in tone. It’s so weird.
Hearing how the winnower is warning ahsa shows that the winnower isn't inherently evil, just that it's followers choose to do what they think the winnower wants. The witness is a great example. The winnower only showed them and guided them to use darkness, but it was the witness's decisions to try and finalize the universe.
Honestly the witness seems to actually arrived at a final shape that contradicted the winnower's. He seemed to want to set the universe in stone vs. allowing entropy and natural selection take its natural course. I was actually surprised the way the Witness' interpretation of the final shape (no pun intended) took shape.
I have been playing since testing in here in Seattle in 2013 before alpha and beta and one thing I will always hold dear to this game is the lore and family. We all know we might have been let down on things because of business decisions that were completely above the pay grade of others but the lore is what always keeps me looking for forward. I’ve met people that are now family members brothers and sisters in arms that I speak to more then my actual blood. I wouldn’t know where I would be if it wasn’t for all of you that keep playing and keep coming back cause we all come back eventually sometimes just to get that nostalgia and feeling we use to get when that super rare gold colored engram hit the ground. That first vex m drop was a rush like no other. 😂
“A flawed existence is preferential to none at all” That shows me that the winnower was not really on the same page as the Witness. The Nacre lore tab also implies this, as the winnower isn’t really fond of nihilism as a concept.
9:44 let me correct something she’s up now you can actually find her again in the dungeon swimming around Titan compared to when she was hibernating you could not
i hate it so much i played through every seasons storyline since black armory and i hate it that i can never re experience that even more for players that never got too experience it i dont care if this game is 300 gb i want every campaign every seasonal story line every mission everything in the game
I love how they can use a game to create a learning and thinking atmosphere about our potential reality based on our sciences and fundamental understanding of the universe, and allow us to imagine them evolved and pushed to the end.
According to the lore, and those who can actually understand it, the Winnower and Gardener are neutral forces. Just as the nature of dark and light. It's whomever wields them that tip the scale. Think of how the Hive were about to be claimed by the Traveler, if it wasn't for the Witness's interference. That would explain how they were able to wield the light, as seen in Witch Queen. But also, how guardians are able to wield the dark and misuse the light, as we've read from the dark age. But this goes deeper than the neutral position of these beings. Think of Yin and Yang. They balance each other, they cannot exist without the other. We are the line that divides them. To tip the scale of how they are used and portrayed.
What if the final shape is trancentdence light and dark is one thres no good or bad what if our gardain is a product of a new brieng one tat exceedsts the whitness we all know our gardain is going to die but is he really diying or becoming a god of his own making we all ready killed a worm god and orix what if become what we destriode and the vangard relaises that at the moment we are the most powerfull being in destiny 2 and they fear us
I loved the deep dives an the story of this season but echoes was meh an so far revenant is meh too but hope last act will be a great ending leading up to heresy I'm pumped for that one!.
I’m coming back to play destiny 247 in episode cuz ngl it seems like it’s going to be good like I love destiny but it’s low key kind of dead and that’s coming from a person who plays everything in the game
Can’t lie the only time I keep up with destiny now is only and I mean only when the winnower is mentioned. The witness as an antagonist was such a fumble I hated its Disney ass design. I beg if the winnower is a physical being and one that intends on confronting us in the future, please make sure this antagonist has an intimidating design that gives us a real scare, I wanna be able to go into a boss fight feeling frightened by this guy
Holy cow
This is veeery important lore
The winnower straight up told us a lot about itself and it's motivations
Never would I have thought the grand mysterious master of darkness would say the word humdinger, not only that, but to sound so chillax in tone. It’s so weird.
Hearing how the winnower is warning ahsa shows that the winnower isn't inherently evil, just that it's followers choose to do what they think the winnower wants. The witness is a great example. The winnower only showed them and guided them to use darkness, but it was the witness's decisions to try and finalize the universe.
Honestly the witness seems to actually arrived at a final shape that contradicted the winnower's. He seemed to want to set the universe in stone vs. allowing entropy and natural selection take its natural course. I was actually surprised the way the Witness' interpretation of the final shape (no pun intended) took shape.
8:50 "a heretic." I swear to GOD. If we get another "hive but not actually hive" season like season of the deep again I'm gonna be pissed.
I have been playing since testing in here in Seattle in 2013 before alpha and beta and one thing I will always hold dear to this game is the lore and family. We all know we might have been let down on things because of business decisions that were completely above the pay grade of others but the lore is what always keeps me looking for forward. I’ve met people that are now family members brothers and sisters in arms that I speak to more then my actual blood. I wouldn’t know where I would be if it wasn’t for all of you that keep playing and keep coming back cause we all come back eventually sometimes just to get that nostalgia and feeling we use to get when that super rare gold colored engram hit the ground. That first vex m drop was a rush like no other. 😂
“A flawed existence is preferential to none at all”
That shows me that the winnower was not really on the same page as the Witness. The Nacre lore tab also implies this, as the winnower isn’t really fond of nihilism as a concept.
9:44 let me correct something she’s up now you can actually find her again in the dungeon swimming around Titan compared to when she was hibernating you could not
Yes, right after the second encounter, she can be found swimming past. Hoo boy is she huge.
it seems like we have switched from light and dark to life and death
Sucks you can’t go back and play old seasons because I just don’t know some of these characters or experienced the final shape build up
i hate it so much i played through every seasons storyline since black armory and i hate it that i can never re experience that even more for players that never got too experience it i dont care if this game is 300 gb i want every campaign every seasonal story line every mission everything in the game
I’d replay season 19 until death
Damn Asha’s whole ass build in thumb nail is crazy
I still love the lore of this game, but I can't bring myself to play for the past 4 months
Same here, I play through the act when it drops and then I drop D2 again lol
finally feels like i can have a healthy playtime with this game for once ngl, still play alot but only because ice breaker is fun asf
I dropped it before the end of Echoes. Too many broken promises. Ice Breaker brought me back.
Same. I haven't played in a while but I love hearing about the lore
Same haven’t played since August. Thousands of hours put into it, now I can’t bring myself to play even 5 minutes
I love how they can use a game to create a learning and thinking atmosphere about our potential reality based on our sciences and fundamental understanding of the universe, and allow us to imagine them evolved and pushed to the end.
According to the lore, and those who can actually understand it, the Winnower and Gardener are neutral forces. Just as the nature of dark and light. It's whomever wields them that tip the scale. Think of how the Hive were about to be claimed by the Traveler, if it wasn't for the Witness's interference. That would explain how they were able to wield the light, as seen in Witch Queen. But also, how guardians are able to wield the dark and misuse the light, as we've read from the dark age. But this goes deeper than the neutral position of these beings. Think of Yin and Yang. They balance each other, they cannot exist without the other. We are the line that divides them. To tip the scale of how they are used and portrayed.
they need to bring back past Story missions and side missions as well I hope they do
What if the final shape is trancentdence light and dark is one thres no good or bad what if our gardain is a product of a new brieng one tat exceedsts the whitness we all know our gardain is going to die but is he really diying or becoming a god of his own making we all ready killed a worm god and orix what if become what we destriode and the vangard relaises that at the moment we are the most powerfull being in destiny 2 and they fear us
2:14 who is that design for?
The Winnower I believe
Oh God I swear if I have to go to titan again and do bs Bungie is just reusing assets
lore for the game is amazing but the gameplay is go kill some dudes while our ghost is finished scanning something
@Sony/@Bungie should create a library within the game. Tell me the story of all the lore.
Is ghost of the deep gonna come back? I wanna get the taken king titan and warlock armor
We all gone be there 😅
Ima be pissed if they make the Dreadnaught’s return like Titan’s
Yay the whale
I loved the deep dives an the story of this season but echoes was meh an so far revenant is meh too but hope last act will be a great ending leading up to heresy I'm pumped for that one!.
Your too good for destiny
The gunplay is the only thing i like about this game now. The devs let the whole game go to shit.
The Winnower always seems so chill in the lore, which really help the traveller is the real big bad theories
I’m coming back to play destiny 247 in episode cuz ngl it seems like it’s going to be good like I love destiny but it’s low key kind of dead and that’s coming from a person who plays everything in the game
Smash
Can’t lie the only time I keep up with destiny now is only and I mean only when the winnower is mentioned.
The witness as an antagonist was such a fumble I hated its Disney ass design.
I beg if the winnower is a physical being and one that intends on confronting us in the future, please make sure this antagonist has an intimidating design that gives us a real scare, I wanna be able to go into a boss fight feeling frightened by this guy
Me too bro, me too
oh hell no... please don't tell me we're gonna have to do diving missions again soon...
Doubt it, supposed to take place on oryx's dreadnaught. Though I can see us still hanging around on titan
For the love of god please no more Sloane. She suffers from the same illness as most other NPCs which is being terminally boring.
we get more titan content though which is always welcome
i hate underwater themed seasons
I'm first haha