@@anzaca1 I support the reusable cup. It will be better for the environment, no degrading coffee cups in nature ( it is fully degradable, so it is not pollution, but it looks nasty for some time. And it will cost energy to make every day, it will cost energy to get the cup to the store, it will cost energy do dispose of properly. A reusable cup only needs to be rinsed down every day or so...
El-ahrairah ehhhh...at least apple products work (to a point). I get the form over function thing but you assume that apple consumers drink normal coffee.
And this is the french press of this era. I been known some individuals to bring their French presses to work and school. Very good coffee. This is like the french press for expresho- gotta pronounce it like Top T, ya feel?
The next step in coffee machine evolution: a solar powered coffee machine that takes the water from thin air using a dehumidifier. FREE COFFEE FROM AIR!!!
So I'm seeing a pattern here: 1. Claim you're solving some environmental problem (whether you actually are or not is irrelevant). 2. Get lots of money from idiots.
It is more general than that, just find any cause that many people like to pay lip service to, but actually never involve themselves into. Scam artists do this with a lot of things, from religion to social issues. Make a "charity" organization, an "awareness raising" event, or like you noticed, a product that claims to fight the issue. Some people will throw money on you and strut away, feeling like heroes. Sure, anyone who actually is involved in the cause will notice your scam, but they aren't your target audience.
a51mj12 - We only now have to wait for the first personal injury claim for having been sprayed with boiling hot coffee and cut to shreds with smashed glass.
You can call this strategy "the straw problem method". You invent the problem and then you come up with the absolute perfect solution that nobody thought about until now, as if by magic.
Actually, I'd suggest it's more like: "Kickstarter: solving nonexistent problems with unfeasible but fancy designed pseudosolutions to scam naive people who'd like to look cool and nerdy." :-)
@@drops2cents260 - The waterseer was the worst example of this. The solution is to dig wells. It doesn't require a technological solution in the first place and their solution was a scam. This is a prime example of white progressive racism. Lets help the poor brown people with our superior technology. Let me tell everybody on twitter what a great person i am to donate money.
Which sounds nice, but in essence is a false statement. Stupid ideas start with wrong assumptions. As the movie under siege put it most eloquently: "assumption is the mother of all fuckups."
The 85% per cup is in comparison to buying coffee from a shop, made by professional baristas. It COULD BE true, assuming you consider the "right kind" of shop that doesnt exactly have the cheapest coffee in the neighborhood.
@@morpheas768 My objection isn't that you couldn't save 85%, it's that it doesn't really make sense to say you save 85% *per cup*. For example, would that mean you save 170% if you make two cups?
When my father died, one of his prized possessions that everyone asked about was a plastic McDonald's lifetime unlimited free refills coffee cup he had for about 20 years. He always got a free cup of coffee with it in the drive thru, but often bought fries or an ice cream cone off the dollar menu. In the summer, he would occasionally ask for a bag of free ice too. He had to educate a new manager every few years. The real value to the rest of us was the smile on his face every time they handed him a free cup of coffee.
Yeah, but they can't sell a simple reusable cup for ninety four quid like they're selling their coffee thing for. Although no doubt they'll next come up with an internet connected cup that they can flog to mugs with more money than sense.
I wonder if coffee shops selling reusable mugs and giving you a cheeper price for the same coffee if you bring their reusable mug each time would help cut down on plastic mugs.... Or have them sell thermos cups with a barcode or chip or something. And lower the price of the coffee slightly for the guests bringing theirs, scan the thermos or mug quickly to validate it and then fill it with coffee. Voila. Im suprised coffee shops arent doing this already. Afterall. In the short term it will make them way more money to sell a 50$ mug and knock of 5-10 cents off the coffee. Not to mention the publucity stunt of 'we care for the enviroment' promotions. And the greater likelyhood for customers returning because they feel the need to validate their purchase and make up for the money spent on the mug.
@@ethribin4188 3 shops close to me if you buy their (their over priced ones so you can't take your thermos and expect a discount) mugs they give you 50 cents off.
Hugo van Galen Arduinos are fine for prototyping, it can save a ton of time and is used more often than what people would expect. And 392 prototypes for that kind of thing ? We’re not talking of a smartphone here, it shouldn’t require that much prototype to get it right.
@@cedricpomerleau5586 "Arduinos are fine for prototyping" but if you use the chips directly you would still use the arduino ide... sorry, just a small hobbyist talking here :D
Tameem Moaleji I was beginning to suspect the same thing. They have all of the hallmarks of your typical yt hack this channel. Just want views with minimal amount of effort.
Surely you meant to say under-designed? They essentially removed all innovations to make it easier in favor of the machine fitting their idiotic form factor of a handheld cylinder.
I was expecting to see someone calling him out for praising coffee-capsule machines. That's like a step away from Juicero ffs! Or the fact that he's disappointed with his office-sized coffee machine because it's not a great fit for single person use...
@@KingLouis420th ahem - it seems you're not the type to check how many people in the world use the world that way. it's correct both ways. anyway, aren't accents fun? if you have one, you're wrong. fun.
This is what I was thinking. The only application where this device has an advantage if you want to have your espresso while camping. But even then, camping isn't exactly full of flat, perfectly horizontal surfaces on which to pump 8 times without toppling the open container of near boiling water.
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 But if you're travelling for business or vacations in a city, you'll have espresso available almost anywhere. If I'm going to my country house where it's almost an hour drive through winding roads to the nearest village, I can simply leave a kitchen counter coffee machine there. If I'm camping... I don't get it, if I'm sleeping in a tent and eating camping-friendly food I'll take instantaneous or "cowboy coffee". But I get it, part of being successful is creating demand where there wasn't any. Well, I searched on youtube for hand pumped espresso and found a machine that looks like a bicycle pump. Sure, it's not as pretty and won't fit a purse unless you're also carrying your self-defense baton in there, but it's available for campers and travelers without requiring a 600,000 dollar crowdfunding campaign.
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 except there's already a much cheaper and more practical alternative called AeroPress. It has a dedicated community and countless preparation methods for every coffee taste
Never leave house without a thermos of coffee but I keep a small alcohol stove and a french press in my car for emergencies. I will make coffee if the world is ending.
@@Alfreduss Good idea. But what would be the criteria? I suggest a rating system with different categories like "can it work?" "would it be effective?" "Is it overpriced?" and so on...
I have a Coffee Jack and take it on my flights! IT WORKS GREAT!!! I AM SUPER HAPPY WITH IT!! WORTH THE THREE YEAR DELAY TO GET IT!!! Yes, I have to put my back into it, but that is what is needed for 10Bar! But, I get a great expresso and I can use my own coffee and grind size, plus I can adjust how quickly I build the pressure on the puck to avoid channeling.
I am a coffee afficionado and I can tell you that 95% of the flavor quality comes from the quality of the beans/grounds. The way to get high quality coffee on the go is 1.) carry good quality grounds with you, and 2.) bring absolutely any brewing paraphernalia that works. If it tastes bad after that, then you're making some critical mistake in your brewing process, such as not cleaning it well enough, not rinsing the soap out well enough, using the wrong amount of grounds, or such. Furthermore, I'm fairly certain there is no discernible taste improvement from making espresso. The whole point of it is to brew it rapidly and then potentially add something other than water afterward (espresso+steamed milk=latte). There is no need to have an espresso machine to make your own coffee your own way. You can make a latte at home by brewing your coffee thick and adding milk--or brew it normal and add half and half. Not foamy enough for you? I dunno, shake it up? Use a mixer? Accept a lower quality product while you're away from home, like any lower class citizen would do? If you're rich enough to whine about this sort of thing, surely you can pay someone local to produce a latte for you. Better than CoffeeJack: any French Press.
thats 1440 everyday, 43200 every month, 525600 every single year, kickstarter will be doing good business until we blow ourselves up or fail and get consumed by the sun.
Sitd Black 🤔 you might be on to something. Either that or there’s an underground adderall addiction epidemic that keeps driving these half baked ideas to fruition despite how incredibly stupid they are.
'allo ah em Eemereecarn trahvelling to Saad Afreeca eend mecking purchess in Isle of Man of cheap China shit at reep-off price. Ah know em aot oof country but seend to ma hom in de U.S. eenyweh.
I like how they claim to have designed an "automatic" tamper. It's just a threaded section that you manually screw down to compress the coffee, not automatic at all haha
At first I thought the Coffeejack would have potential as a portable espresso maker for when you're out camping. But I looked around, and I found out a product like that already DOES EXIST! It's called Nanopresso, which is ready for purchase right now, and looks a lot safer due to not using a glass water tank. It uses ground coffee, or you can purchase an adapter that lets you use Nespresso capsules in it. It also "doesn't need electricity" which means you need some way of heating water first. If you want an espresso maker that heats the water, there's a product called Handpresso Auto which plugs into the 12v outlet on your car. There's a version that uses ground coffee or espresso pods which has been on the market for a while, and another version that uses Nespresso capsules. I'm a coffeeholic too! I have an automatic espresso maker too, and I love this thing! I'm so happy that I bought it! It's a Philips one, and it isn't even one of those fancy ones, but it makes very good espresso with minimal effort and that's what matters to me.
@@OpaMando Who cares about being wrong. Let's go through life being wrong about everything. What harm could that do? Nothing could possibly go wrong! Could it?
@@rickrollrizal2364 Perfect for coffee and arguably the best tasting coffee to be had but it is not at all fast. You need the press, coarse grind, a kettle/source of hot water, 2 to 5 minutes of steeping depending on your desired outcome and then cleaning it all up when you are done. It also has the downside of some fine grind sediment making it into your cup. Personally, I have no issues with a French press and I own one but due to the process, I only use it in the winter after a long snow blowing session and I want a massive pile of coffee to warm up to and I aim to treat myself. I also have a burr grinder for my beans.
@@rickrollrizal2364 I use a french press, afaict it's harder to clean than the aeropress and not as portable, but I love the taste. I haven't tried the aeropress yet but I love the idea. Another good cheap option is the pour-over filter coffee, you just need some filters and a dripper.
The thing is most of his criticisms of this thing would apply to the Aeropress too - ‘why don’t you just get a coffee machine’, have to use your own coffee, what about hot water, etc. I bought an Aeropress to use at work, *specifically because* the provided machine dispenses an undrinkably bitter and stale-tasting motor-oil like goop. So ‘having to’ use your own coffee is a feature, not a bug. It’s easy to clean by ejecting the puck into the bin and give it a quick rinse. Hot water is easily available on tap. Grinding beans if you want to go that way, is a problem you’ll have to solve, but it’s really not hard, and totally worth it IMO, for the great coffee you can make. ‘Why don’t you just buy a one-touch coffee machine’ just isn’t a good solution for this situation, in fact it’s the original problem I’m trying to solve, lol
Personally, I use the Aeropress to make my coffee one cup at a time. The taste difference is worth the small amount of extra effort. They are plastic, portable, and cost about $30.
How about this? Take a plastic coffee cup and spray liquid clay on it, and then heat it. Obviously the plastic will shrink and destroy the shape, but I'm sure with $1 million in research, we can overcome that.
In their defence, I would say that: * The piston diameter is about half of what TF is using for his larger test syringe, giving you more pressure, but more pumps required. * Secondly, this is for scenarios such as camping, hotel or portable uses where you would have access to boiling water, but not power or space needed for a full size electrical coffee machine (I don't see a use case for offices which probably already have a coffee machine of some sort) * Thirdly, glass performs well under compression, especially thick glass in espresso cups (you could probably stand on one of those things without it breaking) I'm not condoning this product, it's pretty much reinventing what's already out there (handpresso etc), and is ridiculously expensive for what is basically just a piston and cylinder with some additional plastic parts.
@@lamalamalex Probably because their extensive market research showed that the target demographic would be people in offices for some reason. I would've personally targeted it at campers, hikers and vanlifers.
@@1schwererziehbar1 He hind of has the Elmer Fudd way of pronouncing R. Jonathan Ross is an extreme example of the same phenomena. th-cam.com/video/ld3A3QCpXd4/w-d-xo.html
Siphon is a fairly cool brewing method (though the setup they used in the show was... interesting). But a bit finicky. Not to mention where was the paper? Paper filtered coffee doesn't have the same amount of film on the bottom of the cup as metal filtered. Unless you are talking about espresso. But then you need those high pressures. And a simple spigot would not work. Also personally I'll take Ethiopian beans over Sumatran ;)
Fidasaind ha siphon you say. We got a guy at work who is consistently late for work because he’s setting u a contraption like coffee maker he has associated that word with. Never knew that was the same idea.
@@kansascityshuffle8526 There's a roaster in Michigan that the owner is friends with someone I went to school with. He did one thing where you could "drink the cycle". Basically same coffee bean roasted 5 different methods. One was siphon. Was the first time I had it. And I liked it. Paper filter. Heats water and pushes the water in to a second chamber with the beans. Remove the heat. Which pulls it back to the first chamber (through the filter). Not sure it is any better than most other paper filter methods. I'm a fan of pour over since I work from home. Lets me control everything but is a bit time intensive (after water is hot it can take me 3-4 minutes of weighing, pouring, stirring, etc to get a 500-600mL brew ready and I drink 2 of those most days). That just needs a decent kettle. Siphon method requires some direct heat source. A bit harder to setup. But it looks cool and it does give a really clean flavor and paper filter means no grit or sludge in the cup (French press even with a course grind will have some in the bottom for example).
4:15 Marco the barista says "i will drink your special coffee", even though their whole objective is to stop people going to the coffee shop he works at which may eventually result in the downfall and closure of his business, loss of a stable job and a lifelong struggle to find employment.
Honestly so glad I got into cold brewing. No more boiling water, no more waiting for the coffee to brew in the morning, etc. It's nice to have a gallon already brewed and waiting for me to pour a glass in the morning.
Here's how I have made coffee for the past 30 years: 1. $25 microwave oven that a friend found for me at a flea market, used to make thousands of cups of coffee over 30 years 2. $1 for 2.85 ounces of instant coffee from Dollar Tree. May make 40 cups? 30, maybe. 3. 3 cents or whatever it is for a gallon of tap water Perfectly good coffee for 5 cents per cup. Also, same ceramic coffee mug still being used after 30 years.
Fun fact: Nespresso is actually a really environmentally friendly solution. When you're done with the capsule, scoop the grounds out and recycle the aluminum. Boom, done.
People used to step into a bar or a restaurant, sit down, ordered a cup of coffee and enjoyed it while looking at other people. I can't remember to hear anyone complaining about sitting or drinking from porcelain cups. Did someone?
How about a reusable (thermo-insulated ?) cup ? Those are a thing and many coffee-shops allow for filling of brought cups... That seems a way simpler and more convenient solution for the wast-problem.
Thanks for this, now i realise I should be taking my mains powered "expresso" machine on my motorbike camping trips, and was shocked to realise coffee can only be drunk with frothy milk, I've been doing it wrong! Oh and I must remember to pack an electric kettle instead of a camping stove...
He's pronouncing it expresso, right? It's not just me?
Correct 🤦♂️
Expresho, actually.
@@aha6500 Nema di te nema! 😁
I thought I was the only one and it bothers me
Just look it up, and you will find expresso is actually used enough to land itself in the dictionary. Making both usages correct.
If the problem is disposable cups, buy a reusable cup.
Spread that covid.
better invent that! XD
Or make fully recyclable/biodegradable cups.
Or just bring your own cup to the coffee shop.
@@anzaca1 I support the reusable cup. It will be better for the environment, no degrading coffee cups in nature ( it is fully degradable, so it is not pollution, but it looks nasty for some time. And it will cost energy to make every day, it will cost energy to get the cup to the store, it will cost energy do dispose of properly. A reusable cup only needs to be rinsed down every day or so...
Crowdfunding is the "as seen on TV" of this era.
El-ahrairah ehhhh...at least apple products work (to a point). I get the form over function thing but you assume that apple consumers drink normal coffee.
uzimonkey fucking nailed it.
We are selling this on TV because no shop was stupid enough to stock this product.
And this is the french press of this era. I been known some individuals to bring their French presses to work and school. Very good coffee.
This is like the french press for expresho- gotta pronounce it like Top T, ya feel?
The next step in coffee machine evolution: a solar powered coffee machine that takes the water from thin air using a dehumidifier.
FREE COFFEE FROM AIR!!!
It needs to be solar powered, just cover the whole thing in panels.
They should use the heat from the water chamber to boil water to make steam to heat the chamber
Solar Freaking Coffee Machines!
This comment really make me laugh lol.
And it delivers the coffee to you using a mini-quad copter when it's finished brewing....
So I'm seeing a pattern here:
1. Claim you're solving some environmental problem (whether you actually are or not is irrelevant).
2. Get lots of money from idiots.
I think you may be onto something. PS RIP JFK, can't believe he was shot yesterday, have you heard of rock 'n roll?
😉
yep and if the problem isn't environmental, just make it socio-political....
You need a 3d rendered example.
It is more general than that, just find any cause that many people like to pay lip service to, but actually never involve themselves into. Scam artists do this with a lot of things, from religion to social issues.
Make a "charity" organization, an "awareness raising" event, or like you noticed, a product that claims to fight the issue. Some people will throw money on you and strut away, feeling like heroes. Sure, anyone who actually is involved in the cause will notice your scam, but they aren't your target audience.
That's basically how murica work.
"In order to solve the problem you need to design the problem."
a51mj12 - We only now have to wait for the first personal injury claim for having been sprayed with boiling hot coffee and cut to shreds with smashed glass.
You can call this strategy "the straw problem method". You invent the problem and then you come up with the absolute perfect solution that nobody thought about until now, as if by magic.
Lol honesty backlash by design.
Hey, you must have read my job description...
Actually, it's "in order to get people to buy our solution to the problem, we have to create the problem."
“It’s the same pressure wooooooo” I cringe every time I hear that.
Your cringe has the right pressure! Wooooh! We done it!
It's like the boardroom scene from Birdemic: Shock and Terror.
This is quite true...... Everytime I hear that......I was hhrggggnnnnn cringe........ especially the wooooo part.....
so awesome woooo
Even Thunderf00t missed the obvious: Most coffee shops will sell you a permanent mug or happily fill your own.
Hell, many of the cafes here in Shitsville have their own mugs, which they'll use unless you tell them you want your order "take-away".
Lot of places also give a discount if you bring your own mug, even the shops don’t want to give you disposable cups.
While they still happily charge you premium coffee prices for it!
@@blackice9088 ... because you pay for the coffee, and not the cup.
Kickstarter : solving problems that don't exist since 2009.
This exact problem is solvable by buying a 20$ Insulated cup for decades now.
Can we get a stunt double for the weight part? There was a lot of grunting and i thought he was going to hurt himself.
Actually, I'd suggest it's more like:
"Kickstarter: solving nonexistent problems with unfeasible but fancy designed pseudosolutions to scam naive people who'd like to look cool and nerdy." :-)
@@drops2cents260 - The waterseer was the worst example of this. The solution is to dig wells. It doesn't require a technological solution in the first place and their solution was a scam.
This is a prime example of white progressive racism. Lets help the poor brown people with our superior technology. Let me tell everybody on twitter what a great person i am to donate money.
"Every stupid idea starts with trying to solve the wrong problem"
Every stupid idea starts without a problem. Then you 'create' the problem.
I've got an idea, let's what if energy was equal to mass times the speed of light CUBED instead?
@Csquared I got a better idea, let's spell correctly.
@@FJDH11 let's do it
Which sounds nice, but in essence is a false statement. Stupid ideas start with wrong assumptions. As the movie under siege put it most eloquently: "assumption is the mother of all fuckups."
"An unbelievable amount of belief." Say whatever you want about CoffeeJack, but this quote right here is simply golden.
I'm still stuck on savings of "85% per cup".
I know right!
The 85% per cup is in comparison to buying coffee from a shop, made by professional baristas.
It COULD BE true, assuming you consider the "right kind" of shop that doesnt exactly have the cheapest coffee in the neighborhood.
@@morpheas768 My objection isn't that you couldn't save 85%, it's that it doesn't really make sense to say you save 85% *per cup*. For example, would that mean you save 170% if you make two cups?
the fun thing is that handheld espresso machines are already invented and cost about 40 euros
When my father died, one of his prized possessions that everyone asked about was a plastic McDonald's lifetime unlimited free refills coffee cup he had for about 20 years. He always got a free cup of coffee with it in the drive thru, but often bought fries or an ice cream cone off the dollar menu.
In the summer, he would occasionally ask for a bag of free ice too.
He had to educate a new manager every few years.
The real value to the rest of us was the smile on his face every time they handed him a free cup of coffee.
i never knew your dad but i love him for this
This was a nice story to read. 👍
Do you still use the cup?
That honestly sounds like an excerpt from a book.
Uuuuh Plastic cup degrade and you should not use it more than 2 years
Ask McDonald for a new cup.
They merged the worlds of coffee and jacking. Two of my favorite things.
I... Don't know what to say to this. But I had to comment. Did you purchase this, to engage in your favorite things at ones?
So, the solution to "too many disposable cups" is a portable coffee maker and not a convenient reusable cup?
You start with an idea, then you 'create' the problem.
Made of plastic which will eventually end up in a landfill or floating in the Pacific.
One can always bring their own cup (or a flask) to a coffee shop.
Yeah, but they can't sell a simple reusable cup for ninety four quid like they're selling their coffee thing for. Although no doubt they'll next come up with an internet connected cup that they can flog to mugs with more money than sense.
2:46 The solution there is reusable mug, not a portable coffee machine.
I wonder if coffee shops selling reusable mugs and giving you a cheeper price for the same coffee if you bring their reusable mug each time would help cut down on plastic mugs....
Or have them sell thermos cups with a barcode or chip or something. And lower the price of the coffee slightly for the guests bringing theirs, scan the thermos or mug quickly to validate it and then fill it with coffee.
Voila.
Im suprised coffee shops arent doing this already.
Afterall. In the short term it will make them way more money to sell a 50$ mug and knock of 5-10 cents off the coffee. Not to mention the publucity stunt of 'we care for the enviroment' promotions. And the greater likelyhood for customers returning because they feel the need to validate their purchase and make up for the money spent on the mug.
@@ethribin4188 my local coffee shop has reuseable cups made out of recycled coffee cups!
Chazz if they’d recycle the coffee too that must make it even more better right?
@@ethribin4188 3 shops close to me if you buy their (their over priced ones so you can't take your thermos and expect a discount) mugs they give you 50 cents off.
@@motalasuger You can use the grounds in the garden plus i use them to fight a a yearly ant issue in the area I spread the grounds over the nest.
I'm starting to think this whole video is just a pretence for Thunderf00t to tell us that he's working out.
Flexxxxin that muscle
I was shocked to see weights in this video too... What could be next, a comb?
@@fragmentedmind549 combs are useless against hair like that.
Good start but he was struggling with 7 kg, I've had shopping bags that weighed more.
Thunderf00t must be a scientist - he barely can lift seven kilos with one hand ^^
392 prototypes! Something tells me their 'engineers' don't know what they're doing.
MFW you're being paid by the prototype.
"Let's add wheels to it!"
The frame at around 0:48 shows you are right -- I would expect something more professional than the "hobbyist"-grade Arduino IDE... :D
Hugo van Galen Arduinos are fine for prototyping, it can save a ton of time and is used more often than what people would expect.
And 392 prototypes for that kind of thing ? We’re not talking of a smartphone here, it shouldn’t require that much prototype to get it right.
@@cedricpomerleau5586 "Arduinos are fine for prototyping" but if you use the chips directly you would still use the arduino ide... sorry, just a small hobbyist talking here :D
it is the same same prototype wooooo
Inventor: "I have an awesome Ide....."
Thunderf00t: BUSTED!!
@@iteerrex8166 You should try laughing at jokes instead of taking them literally. It's way more fun.
Products like this are not designed around the things TF thinks are designed around.
Try "I want to take money for this idea"
Tameem Moaleji I was beginning to suspect the same thing. They have all of the hallmarks of your typical yt hack this channel. Just want views with minimal amount of effort.
@@tarstarkusz true....I think he thinks they think it's actually a good idea and not just the scam that it is.
they'll need an espresso for their depresso after this video.
You don't think they were impresso by his derisso? Maybe they'll file a copyright claim even though this was freedom of opinion and expresso.
10/10 Comment sir
Desperado.
Soon they'll get suessoed.
I think they were forced to leave the last word out: Coffee Jack !@#!
Surprised this does not come with an app and needs the internet to work...
Hey great idea, maybe add a scanner to tell you what's in it too!
This looks like an over-designed aeropress.
Yeah a cross between that and the wacaco portable espresso machine
It cannot produce as much or as well as the aeropress, turns out these people aren't even "frisbee scientists"
@@prjndigo I just dont get who wants to make the tiniest amount of coffee for a lot of fuss, at least Aeropress will make a full cup.
Surely you meant to say under-designed? They essentially removed all innovations to make it easier in favor of the machine fitting their idiotic form factor of a handheld cylinder.
@@Daealis How do you remove features from an aeropress?
Ever since i started to drink my coffee the irish way, i couldn't care less how the coffee tastes.
TwistedMicrowave Truly an Irish blessing.With Mr. Jamieson’s finest.
@@kleinjahr jameson, pronounced "jammyson"
I just came here to see the "expresso" comments.
I was expecting to see someone calling him out for praising coffee-capsule machines. That's like a step away from Juicero ffs! Or the fact that he's disappointed with his office-sized coffee machine because it's not a great fit for single person use...
It's not pronounced "expresso"
It's pronounced "expresso"
Black turbine but it’s spelled “espresso”
But he says it “exshpresso
@@KingLouis420th ahem - it seems you're not the type to check how many people in the world use the world that way. it's correct both ways. anyway, aren't accents fun? if you have one, you're wrong. fun.
TLDR: they’ve invented a portable coffee machine that you can’t really use out of a kitchen (unless you want to boil your water over an open fire).
I guess I could see this for travel and camping?
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 camping Burner and one of those Aluminium Mokka machines will Always be my choice for that
This is what I was thinking. The only application where this device has an advantage if you want to have your espresso while camping. But even then, camping isn't exactly full of flat, perfectly horizontal surfaces on which to pump 8 times without toppling the open container of near boiling water.
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 But if you're travelling for business or vacations in a city, you'll have espresso available almost anywhere. If I'm going to my country house where it's almost an hour drive through winding roads to the nearest village, I can simply leave a kitchen counter coffee machine there.
If I'm camping... I don't get it, if I'm sleeping in a tent and eating camping-friendly food I'll take instantaneous or "cowboy coffee".
But I get it, part of being successful is creating demand where there wasn't any. Well, I searched on youtube for hand pumped espresso and found a machine that looks like a bicycle pump. Sure, it's not as pretty and won't fit a purse unless you're also carrying your self-defense baton in there, but it's available for campers and travelers without requiring a 600,000 dollar crowdfunding campaign.
@@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 except there's already a much cheaper and more practical alternative called AeroPress.
It has a dedicated community and countless preparation methods for every coffee taste
I think you're going to get roasted for saying expresso
Ha......'roasted'
Already got XD
He'll have to explain it :D
in europe we pronuence it expresso
artisticwonder It is in the US as well. By hicks.
Nice pun 👌️
He even wrote it as "expresso"
He’s got to be taking the piss
Or just make that coffee at home and bring it in a thermos.
there are pretty good to go french presses on the market if you realy want fresh coffee. getting hot water isnt so difficult-
@@nox5555 That's pretty much all this product is as far as I can tell.
No that's too logical
If you bring a thermos into a coffee shop, ask them to use that and they'll discount your order.
Never leave house without a thermos of coffee but I keep a small alcohol stove and a french press in my car for emergencies.
I will make coffee if the world is ending.
This will look perfect next to one of those juice bag pressing machines.
we need a list of worst scams ever
But only if the Water is extracted from a Zero Mass Water
@@Alfreduss Good idea. But what would be the criteria? I suggest a rating system with different categories like "can it work?" "would it be effective?" "Is it overpriced?" and so on...
@@coso2 Why not a WaterSeer?
The one that had DRM? XD
I have a Coffee Jack and take it on my flights! IT WORKS GREAT!!! I AM SUPER HAPPY WITH IT!! WORTH THE THREE YEAR DELAY TO GET IT!!! Yes, I have to put my back into it, but that is what is needed for 10Bar! But, I get a great expresso and I can use my own coffee and grind size, plus I can adjust how quickly I build the pressure on the puck to avoid channeling.
Guys, he's not saying "eXpresso." Listen again. T-Foot repeatedly says "eGGsprezso."
Yes... I have my coffee with eggs, too!
Robert Cartier Hah! As it would happen, coffee with eggs is the basis of an 18th Century recipe.
Right, but he typed expresso at 9:30
@@nitehawk86 to save on ink. it's fewer characters.
He wrote "expresso" in the video, it's now transcoded indelibly.
“Unbelievable amounts of belief”. Wow, they are incredibly credible.
Might as well start a religion worshipping the coffee bean god.
'incredibly credible' - Well played sir!
I was glancing off the screen as he read that and had to look back to verify he really was still quoting them.
I can't believe they have this much belief in their product. It really seals the deal for me. Risk is eliminated.
I am a coffee afficionado and I can tell you that 95% of the flavor quality comes from the quality of the beans/grounds. The way to get high quality coffee on the go is 1.) carry good quality grounds with you, and 2.) bring absolutely any brewing paraphernalia that works. If it tastes bad after that, then you're making some critical mistake in your brewing process, such as not cleaning it well enough, not rinsing the soap out well enough, using the wrong amount of grounds, or such.
Furthermore, I'm fairly certain there is no discernible taste improvement from making espresso. The whole point of it is to brew it rapidly and then potentially add something other than water afterward (espresso+steamed milk=latte). There is no need to have an espresso machine to make your own coffee your own way. You can make a latte at home by brewing your coffee thick and adding milk--or brew it normal and add half and half. Not foamy enough for you? I dunno, shake it up? Use a mixer? Accept a lower quality product while you're away from home, like any lower class citizen would do? If you're rich enough to whine about this sort of thing, surely you can pay someone local to produce a latte for you.
Better than CoffeeJack: any French Press.
Picoespresso
The giveaway was when they mentioned former Dyson Engineers.
That were fired because of insisting to push their idea of a hand pumped hair dryer one too many times.
there is a reason they are "former" ^.^
@@mrkiky how much pumping do you have to do to get decently powered air dryer?
"There's a sucker born every minute." Apparently, quite a few.
more like every second
@potterman63
Two things are infinite, the Universe... and Human stupidity... and on reflection, I have my doubts about the Universe.
- Einstein.
thats 1440 everyday, 43200 every month, 525600 every single year, kickstarter will be doing good business until we blow ourselves up or fail and get consumed by the sun.
Funny thing is this. When PT Barnum's quote became famous (the sucker born every minute thing), he still made loads of money off of suckers.
Damn you guys are like intellectuals. Really cool.
The random girl not shown Carrie the "Coffee Expert" gives this 5 Stars! Wow! Just wow! That's a hell of an endorsement!
Is it just me or do some of these "inventions" look more like a money-sink for criminal organisations to do their money laundering?
Sitd Black 🤔 you might be on to something. Either that or there’s an underground adderall addiction epidemic that keeps driving these half baked ideas to fruition despite how incredibly stupid they are.
'allo ah em Eemereecarn trahvelling to Saad Afreeca eend mecking purchess in Isle of Man of cheap China shit at reep-off price. Ah know em aot oof country but seend to ma hom in de U.S. eenyweh.
Knowing nothing about it, I also find this idea kinda credible. Somebody should look into it?
Good point.
I open a kick starter, deal dope and have my customers pay on kick instead of giving me black cash. Brilliant!
@@Mega_Mikey That's a fantastic mental image, thank you
I like how they claim to have designed an "automatic" tamper. It's just a threaded section that you manually screw down to compress the coffee, not automatic at all haha
I'm still wondering HOW Coffeejack makes the steamed milk for my cappuccino.
I saw a good one from _Clarins_ face goo,
_"In just 6 days, instant results."_
Imagine if instant coffee took 6 days to brew.
At first I thought the Coffeejack would have potential as a portable espresso maker for when you're out camping. But I looked around, and I found out a product like that already DOES EXIST! It's called Nanopresso, which is ready for purchase right now, and looks a lot safer due to not using a glass water tank. It uses ground coffee, or you can purchase an adapter that lets you use Nespresso capsules in it. It also "doesn't need electricity" which means you need some way of heating water first.
If you want an espresso maker that heats the water, there's a product called Handpresso Auto which plugs into the 12v outlet on your car. There's a version that uses ground coffee or espresso pods which has been on the market for a while, and another version that uses Nespresso capsules.
I'm a coffeeholic too! I have an automatic espresso maker too, and I love this thing! I'm so happy that I bought it! It's a Philips one, and it isn't even one of those fancy ones, but it makes very good espresso with minimal effort and that's what matters to me.
We’ve done it gang, baristas are no more.
Where will the gender studies graduates work now?
Oh shit. Guess I'm out of a job 🤣
@@ZefVolk these only work if your coffee order is less than 5 words long (excluding pleasantries) so the students will keep the graduates in a job
"All great ideas start with a problem"
And most stupid ideas start without one, before ending up on this channel.
You are a genius! "All great ideas start with a problem and most stupid ideas start without one"
Houston, we are on Thunderfoot, we have a problem
@@friedmule5403 pretty much akin to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
@@Arrow6424 yes a "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is!" :-)
@@friedmule5403 well done!!
Please man, please for the love of humanity, it’s espresso. ESS•PRESS•OH
PLEASE MAN.
It sounds like he has a mouthguard in everytime he says ut
@@OpaMando Who cares about being wrong. Let's go through life being wrong about everything. What harm could that do? Nothing could possibly go wrong! Could it?
Expresso
No, it doesnt end with OH. It ends with O. And it is not pronounced OH
Italians only call it "espresso" because modern Italian doesn't have an X.
There should be a new term called being “thunderf00ted”
"Thunderst0mped"?
TFOWNED
THUNDERFISTED
Thunderstruck?
@@OtherSideOfMorning that could be anyone with thunder in the name at this point
The electric kettle is powered by...
SOLAR FRIKING ROAD WAYS!!
dont forget the self refilling bottle.
Oh noes
"Engineered for Lifetime Use"
Well. yeah. When it breaks its lifetime is over.
Just like lifetime fluid for automatic transmissions. :D
Change it every 50k miles
"My mouth can produce 10 bar of pressure." - jonny-five, coffee amateur
Maybe he was thinking of negative pressure...
Number 5 is alive!
J5 how ya been buddy!
@@rbnhd1976 I've been locked in Ally Sheedy's basement for the last 25 years!
This is just an opinion but Fisher Stevens in brownface was the best thing to ever happen to cinema.
Get an Aeropress, they even have a travel version. Not technically espresso but really good coffee
How about a French press?
@@rickrollrizal2364 Perfect for coffee and arguably the best tasting coffee to be had but it is not at all fast. You need the press, coarse grind, a kettle/source of hot water, 2 to 5 minutes of steeping depending on your desired outcome and then cleaning it all up when you are done. It also has the downside of some fine grind sediment making it into your cup.
Personally, I have no issues with a French press and I own one but due to the process, I only use it in the winter after a long snow blowing session and I want a massive pile of coffee to warm up to and I aim to treat myself. I also have a burr grinder for my beans.
@@rickrollrizal2364 I use a french press, afaict it's harder to clean than the aeropress and not as portable, but I love the taste. I haven't tried the aeropress yet but I love the idea. Another good cheap option is the pour-over filter coffee, you just need some filters and a dripper.
Or just buy under a dollar vietnam drip...
The thing is most of his criticisms of this thing would apply to the Aeropress too - ‘why don’t you just get a coffee machine’, have to use your own coffee, what about hot water, etc.
I bought an Aeropress to use at work, *specifically because* the provided machine dispenses an undrinkably bitter and stale-tasting motor-oil like goop.
So ‘having to’ use your own coffee is a feature, not a bug. It’s easy to clean by ejecting the puck into the bin and give it a quick rinse. Hot water is easily available on tap. Grinding beans if you want to go that way, is a problem you’ll have to solve, but it’s really not hard, and totally worth it IMO, for the great coffee you can make.
‘Why don’t you just buy a one-touch coffee machine’ just isn’t a good solution for this situation, in fact it’s the original problem I’m trying to solve, lol
Personally, I use the Aeropress to make my coffee one cup at a time. The taste difference is worth the small amount of extra effort. They are plastic, portable, and cost about $30.
Those are handy units
Have you ever seen aeropress competitions, people really love those things.
We need to start another Kickstarter reusable coffee cups made from porcelain
Unbelievable! It SOLVES the problem of PLASTIC WASTE !!!!!11
How about this? Take a plastic coffee cup and spray liquid clay on it, and then heat it. Obviously the plastic will shrink and destroy the shape, but I'm sure with $1 million in research, we can overcome that.
I lost it when they claimed their product is safe because they have put tonnes of belief in to it.
TF: eXpresso
Me: sacrilegio...
"An unbelievable amount of belief"
...what?
You won't believe the amount of belief they have.
they've got to be trolling
Don't believe it...
So it's just like a more expensive version of an Aeropress, except for who Aeropress doesn't pretend to be something it isn't.
Aeropress is for coffee not espresso, so it's a somewhat different idea. Doesn't have to reach a very high pressure.
In their defence, I would say that:
* The piston diameter is about half of what TF is using for his larger test syringe, giving you more pressure, but more pumps required.
* Secondly, this is for scenarios such as camping, hotel or portable uses where you would have access to boiling water, but not power or space needed for a full size electrical coffee machine (I don't see a use case for offices which probably already have a coffee machine of some sort)
* Thirdly, glass performs well under compression, especially thick glass in espresso cups (you could probably stand on one of those things without it breaking)
I'm not condoning this product, it's pretty much reinventing what's already out there (handpresso etc), and is ridiculously expensive for what is basically just a piston and cylinder with some additional plastic parts.
so why show a guy, in A SUIT, putting it in a handbag that looks like it's to bring to an office?
@@lamalamalex Probably because their extensive market research showed that the target demographic would be people in offices for some reason. I would've personally targeted it at campers, hikers and vanlifers.
I had to try it just just out of curiosity: even wine glasses hold over 20kg of pressure, so no problem there 😅
"Ah belief - the last refuge of a scoundrel!" - Thunderf00t 2019
Boris N. It’s also from an episode of the simpsons :^)
"Expresso"
- Thunderf00t, 2019
He should register the brand.
Expresso the fastes espresso machine
He also calls Hydrogen "Hydgodgen". Probably some dialect thing.
yup that was painful ^^
@@1schwererziehbar1 He hind of has the Elmer Fudd way of pronouncing R. Jonathan Ross is an extreme example of the same phenomena. th-cam.com/video/ld3A3QCpXd4/w-d-xo.html
Dislike, unsubscribed, reported, dox'd
That's the one! It's the same pressure! Wooo! We've done it!
No “X” in espresso
Easy now... he grew up on Tesco tea bags :)
Your participle's danglin'!
Just look it up, and you will find expresso is actually used enough to land itself in the dictionary. Making both usages correct.
@@SilvyReacts You're that kind of person, huh
@@beclops
If you mean being correct. Than yes, I am that kind of person.
I have a coffee machine at home AND my colleagues and I bought a machine for the office... INSANE!!!!
Yet people still go out for coffee despite all that equipment...
@NC Dave
Changing jobs is hard. I'd rather keep my head down and make money than consider a new job.
thanks again, dear Phil! a pleasure to watch! Keep it coming! I like the „busted“-videos a lot! Joseph
I wonder if Gale Botticher’s coffee theories survived Thunderfoot’s soul crushing scrutiny.
Siphon is a fairly cool brewing method (though the setup they used in the show was... interesting). But a bit finicky. Not to mention where was the paper? Paper filtered coffee doesn't have the same amount of film on the bottom of the cup as metal filtered. Unless you are talking about espresso. But then you need those high pressures. And a simple spigot would not work.
Also personally I'll take Ethiopian beans over Sumatran ;)
Fidasaind ha siphon you say. We got a guy at work who is consistently late for work because he’s setting u a contraption like coffee maker he has associated that word with. Never knew that was the same idea.
@@kansascityshuffle8526 There's a roaster in Michigan that the owner is friends with someone I went to school with. He did one thing where you could "drink the cycle". Basically same coffee bean roasted 5 different methods. One was siphon. Was the first time I had it. And I liked it. Paper filter. Heats water and pushes the water in to a second chamber with the beans. Remove the heat. Which pulls it back to the first chamber (through the filter).
Not sure it is any better than most other paper filter methods. I'm a fan of pour over since I work from home. Lets me control everything but is a bit time intensive (after water is hot it can take me 3-4 minutes of weighing, pouring, stirring, etc to get a 500-600mL brew ready and I drink 2 of those most days). That just needs a decent kettle. Siphon method requires some direct heat source. A bit harder to setup. But it looks cool and it does give a really clean flavor and paper filter means no grit or sludge in the cup (French press even with a course grind will have some in the bottom for example).
Fidasaind i will have to take your word for it. I’m not a coffee drinker. I just appreciate the lengths people go to to get that bean to a hot liquid.
It's got a piston,
It uses hot water,
It thinks it can,
It's the little coffee engine that thought it could.
On the upside: you can actually get coffee out of this.
Technically yes, although sometimes mixed with glass shards and spilled all over the table.
And 3rd degree burns to match !
My Mokapot on the shelf is miles better than this. And I only need a stove, not pumping it by hand.
Oh shit, now he's coming after the coffee machine kickstarters!
Probably why he's always so pissy? He needed a coffee fix, but made a video instead
Or just carry your own coffee thermos and get what you want form the Coffee Shop. Great video as always Thunder!
Praise be to CoffeeJack, Hallelujah!
"Let's meet up at this swank new coffee shop!"
- Nah man... I have coffee at home.
Nah.. I have coffee in my handbag.. just need an electric kettle to heat up some water...
@@TheNabob57 did you bring your solar powered condenser water bottle? I'm sure we can just reverse the heat sink and make some boiling water.
Hey, just invite people to your house. It's a much cosier place to hang out with your frinds.
"The Sky is green„ Kevin sky expert
Dear Mr. Kevin, … would you please be willing to do a medical intervention on my friend, Chicken Little ?
Where is the Hydraulic Press Channel when you need it? LOL!
“Expresso” that is painful.
it's like saying nucular -_-
Everyone is trying to outdesign Apple...
As long as design comes before functionality, the end result will be awful.
〈 Morus 〉 hm.... i think for Something like a chair or a table it works...
I searched for hand pumped espresso maker and found one that looks like a bicycle pump. Also seems to work better.
Wait until thunderf00t finds out that there are companies talking about space manufacturing
What is “expresso”?...
I think it's espresso made very quickly and without stopping.
An eggcorn.
A quickly made coffee that has less caffeine, less taste, and less coffee than the drip stuff thats been made for hundreds of years.
It’s a former presso. ;)
An ostrich in Donkey Kong Country.
If I was an investor who heard them say that final risk appraisal statement, I would walk out immediately
Hence why they went with Kickstarter.
Welcome to the Thunderfoot Cafe.
Every time he says expresso, I die a little inside.
4:15 Marco the barista says "i will drink your special coffee", even though their whole objective is to stop people going to the coffee shop he works at which may eventually result in the downfall and closure of his business, loss of a stable job and a lifelong struggle to find employment.
Honestly so glad I got into cold brewing. No more boiling water, no more waiting for the coffee to brew in the morning, etc. It's nice to have a gallon already brewed and waiting for me to pour a glass in the morning.
"EX"presso xD
Trust me, I know sight-ants, I work at nucular reactors all the time, exetera.
If you use the word espresso, and dont pronounce "express" as "espress" you are a twat. Scratch that, you are a twat anyway.
"I believe I can fly" Famous last words of the corpse in fridge #11 at the LA County Coroner's Office.
Here's how I have made coffee for the past 30 years:
1. $25 microwave oven that a friend found for me at a flea market, used to make thousands of cups of coffee over 30 years
2. $1 for 2.85 ounces of instant coffee from Dollar Tree. May make 40 cups? 30, maybe.
3. 3 cents or whatever it is for a gallon of tap water
Perfectly good coffee for 5 cents per cup.
Also, same ceramic coffee mug still being used after 30 years.
So your solution for making real coffee is to not make real coffee, genius.
ThunderDude’s pick up line: hey baby, wanna come to my place for a cup of coffee?
Did I mention I own a thousand dollar coffee machine 😙
And did I mention I get the water from the air?
@@CaptainJackSparrow110also powered by thorium solar panels.
I'm from Colombia. We produce the best coffee. I don't care as much for the method as I do for the coffee, the water temperature and the time.
Every time you say expresso instead pf espresso, an Italian falls from his Vespa.
Or hers ... but I agree with the sentiment. ;-)
@@u08154711 or they, don't discount the other troves of genders
Nobody:
Thunderf00t: eXpresso
There is something very similar that already exist 'espresso aeropress' I have one it's alright.
Thanks a ton for covering this!
Solution:portable self-sustaining power.
eSpresso. ESSSSSpresso. Expresso: BUSTED!
Right? "Expressho" even gives Sean Connery a run for his money.
Whoa you are telling me i can finally have coffee at my own desk? Sign...me....up
i dont think i've heard him swear until now, and it was bleeped.
this man is a true scientist
Fun fact: Nespresso is actually a really environmentally friendly solution. When you're done with the capsule, scoop the grounds out and recycle the aluminum. Boom, done.
Don't even need to scoop the grounds out, they do that for you
JF Barnard I was going to mention that too!
@@jfbarnard3109 they offer a service to that, yes. But in case they don't.. easy enough to do at home.
Us British have a special word for hand pumpers... sounds a lot like anchor...
So is espresso a religion?
"How do you know this will work?"
"I BELIEVE! HALLELUJAH BROTHERS AND SISTERS!"
I just pour ground coffee into hot water and then drink it
Why not EAT the coffee first and then drink hot water
At least these are Dyson engineers who don't suck but instead have pressing matters.
Have they ever searched the minipresso is kinda same thing but easier.
People used to step into a bar or a restaurant, sit down, ordered a cup of coffee and enjoyed it while looking at other people. I can't remember to hear anyone complaining about sitting or drinking from porcelain cups. Did someone?
How about a reusable (thermo-insulated ?) cup ? Those are a thing and many coffee-shops allow for filling of brought cups... That seems a way simpler and more convenient solution for the wast-problem.
Thanks for this, now i realise I should be taking my mains powered "expresso" machine on my motorbike camping trips, and was shocked to realise coffee can only be drunk with frothy milk, I've been doing it wrong! Oh and I must remember to pack an electric kettle instead of a camping stove...
Finally someone gets it.
You can get portable espresso machines the size of a thermos that take cups and ground coffee, and can froth milk, for ~60.
This crap is useless.