This video was super helpful for me! 7/29, I had really good success as a first-time visitor to DL using Multi-Pass & leading a less intense crew that wanted to do a variety of LL & standby-only lines. Almost none of these LL were the time I wanted on the first try but I always got a much better time (
Love this! Would you do an updated lighting lane video to see if there are improvements to the lighting lane, my family purchased lighting lane for Monday August 19
One video idea I'd love to see is- for rides that have an outdoor element- seeing if they're better in the daytime or at night. For example, I found Jungle Cruise to be sort of dark and creepy at night, but Radiator Springs Racers was absolutely beautiful! I know it might take a long time for you to make since you usually leave the parks early, but I do think it would be valuable for trip planning! :)
So helpful. Thank you! A couple things I am not clear on: 1) When you had two attractions booked at the same time bc of the two-hour rule, were you still able to choose another attraction after scanning into the first of the two? And, 2) Were you able to book another attraction while holding onto that multiple experiences selection you got bc Thunder Mtn was closed?
Maybe on the monthly crowd update videos, you can add how far out the current LL is for each ride. Just to give us an idea of what to expect if we purchase LL multi pass.
Thank you for sacrificing driving time to stay late and finish the challenge! This was quite the watch and I'm so glad I watched till the end, I was cheering y'all on the whole time!
@@robinsons5646 It makes a lot more sense once you start using it. It’s not particularly hard to use, but it definitely sounds confusing until you get your hands on it.
This is a great video to show how to best mix Lightening Lanes and Standby to have a great experience at Disneyland! I think that is the best way to maximize your enjoyment of the parks! Thanks for another great video!!
Thank you for all your helpful videos. Our family of 7 is traveling to Disneyland in December. What is the best way to work the app for families? Should we load all our tickets onto one of our Disneyland accounts and then my wife and I both sign into that account on the app to access our tickets and make Lightning Lane reservations?
Great video. I wanted to see how Lightning Lane Multi Pass now works at Disneyland, and it seems to be about the same at Disneyland. Also, I didn't know about the 2-hour stacking feature, or the refresh tip. We'll make even better use out of LLMP now. Thanks. First time viewer, and I'm looking forward to checking out your other videos.
This has been very informative, thank you! I have not been back since COVID so the whole new fast pass approach has seemed overwhelming. What crowd calendar do you use? Also, have you used the LL since posting this and have you seen an improvement in availability? It seems a little stressful trying to manage what to book and when to be efficient. Any suggestions on what to do if you are not park hopping? We tend to do a multi day pass where we commit one day to DCA and the others to Disneyland as just hasn't seemed worth the extra cost and time jumping from park to park in the past for us.
I have not used it since. No. You’ll have an easier time not park hopping. Just hit what’s available for what you want to do. And focus on the priority rides first if it looks like they’re disappearing quicker.
Planning me and my sons first trip to Disneyland in October, your videos have been not only helpful but they get me all excited about the upcoming trip. Keep up the great work
Nice challenge and very interesting . My strategy is just to book my first LL at rope drop and keep modifying for the afternoon. I just keep getting more every 2 hours so they are stacked for the afternoon. Works well if you aren’t park hopping. I hope my strategy isn’t messed up with the name change.
That’s all well and fine if you’re okay with only getting 5-6 lightning lanes. We ended up using at least 12, which would take 24 total hours if you were stuck with one only every 2 hours. Last time we did this challenge, we actually managed to get something like 16 lightning lanes (there were only 18 total rides on the service at the time). Thats something that’s just not possible with stacking, but it works for some people and so long as it does what they want, then it’s all good.
@@SoCalDisneyDad I’ll have to go back and rewatch that other one. I’ll clarify that we didn’t have a park hopper so it’s just the LL in one park and we are able to use all the LL but we are open to close people since we don’t go often - so yes, it takes allllll day. 😂 We use the Golden Hour for Fantasyland. I should also add that we don’t stack them all. We might have 3 stacked by noon then we when we use one we can book another for a ride that has a more immediate return time. The hope is to rope drop the favorites and then be able to ride them again in the afternoon/ evening with LLs but as your video showed, breakdowns happen and it’s not always possible.
Great video! We felt the same way. We went Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We were there at 7:45am all three days. Friday was manageable but Thursday and Wednesday were bananas. It was just bonkers the way LLs disappeared. BTW thank you so much. I watched 7 months of your vids to prepare for this trip. We were able to every single thing on our must-dos and lots of bonus things thanks to you, Amy and the tots. I even happened upon that boysen slushie and pretzel bread and they were a winning combo! The bananas-level crowds did not detract from an amazing trip, and we felt so relaxed and well-researched.
Ok so if you stack lightening lanes. Let’s say you have “1” for 2:00 that you set first, but then your 2 hour window is up and you booked the “2” for 1:30. Once you use “2” at 1:30 can you book another? Even though “1” was booked first. Sorry if that’s confusing. Trying to understand the stacking better.
That’s correct. Once a reservation passes the 2 hour mark, it’s no longer relevant for selecting a new pass. You could make that first reservation for 8 PM at night if it’s already out that far (Guardians might be in this boat right now). Once you pass that first two hour window, the new lightning lane you make becomes the one you either have to use or wait two hours for. That 8 PM reservation can sit there all day but it won’t impact new reservations after the first 2 hours. One of our viewers said they stack everything for the evening. How that works is you just keep modifying your reservations. For instance. Say you make the first reservation for 9 AM because that’s as far out as it goes at rope drop. At 8:45 you can modify it to say 11:30 or whatever it’s currently out to at that point. Your 2-hour window is from the original time you booked the lightning lane. It doesn’t reset when you modify. So you can still book another at 10 AM. To get all your lightning lanes for the evening, you just have to keep modifying them to push them later and later. Does this make sense?
I have a question: if you have to choose one option what would you choose: Option 1: 3 days with park hopper with LLMP Option 2: 5 days 1 park per day Option 3: 5 days with hopper Family of 4 (kids age 3 and 11) and looking to go the week of Sep 16-21. Please help! Thank you so much!😊
@@needanap2needanap232 It was down to the wire! We were getting tired and almost called it early, but we left it up to Benjamin and he wanted to keep going.
Thank you for the helpful video! We're excited to go in October. Does it show the availability of the rides in BOTH parks or just whichever park you are currently in? Could we park hopper back and forth depending on what ride we have LL for?
You can change the park in the app, but it only shows one park at a time. And you can't select a ride in the other park until after 11 AM at least due to hopping restrictions. But you can absolutely hop back and forth if you like. You'll have to keep switching the app from Disneyland to DCA and back, though.
Great content, as usual. We are in the dreaming of going back phase and love watching to relive the experience. Question for you, Traver. I'm wondering if refreshing so much is a difference or was it something that was just as helpful with the old Genie+ system?
@@kimInVic_88 It definitely worked for us often enough this visit. The times we struggled I had a few theories. So, if they were limiting lightning lanes for whatever reason, then there’s less to go around and more competition. If there were more people buying it there was more competition. Or, it’s possible people just weren’t letting them go. Especially with Star Tours given the new scenes that released in April if folks haven’t seen them yet. For other rides, especially given that Guardians ran out at Noon, folks might have hung on to them knowing they couldn’t get it again. Why did they run out so fast? That’s the big question. Disneyland has never had supply issues with Lightning Lanes. That’s a WDW problem. And to that, I have no answer still.
Hey 👋 - we were at Disneyland on Wednesday (thanks for all of your tips, by the way)... The one thing I noticed... When I would go in to modify my LL time, I'd get one time offered (i.e. 5:00pm), but once I confirmed to accept the new time or new ride with that time... It would confirm it with a MUCH layer time... I'd be expecting that 5:00pm and then I'd end up with 8:20pm... It was such a disappointment because it did not help with trying to plan... it was my first time at Disneyland, but I always used Genie at Disney World and never had the time pushed out so far when changing, so not sure if that was the new change or park-based. I just felt like I was losing... would have been fair to show the updated time and asking if you still wanted to change. Main plus, we got Guardians first thing and we rode it twice after getting another pass due to Monsters breaking down. Definitely going to provide feedback to Disney.
So the time you see when refreshing is what’s available right that second. But it takes you a few seconds to process it’s a time you want and click it. In that time, if someone else clicked it, then they get it. So when you click, it just gives you the next available time. So long as you make it to the screen where it asks if you want to confirm this new time, you’re locked in to whatever time is showing and can take a few seconds to decide if you truly want that time. So in the situation you’re describing, I see 5 PM, click, and it now shows 8 PM on the confirmation screen, it just means someone else was faster than me. This is why I was saying that competition seemed fiercer than it usually is at DL. But I still think they were short-stocking the LLs because it does not usually work this way at Disneyland. It was acting more like WDW.
Was there monday and wednesday, Monday was really packed and was able to ride all but 2 LL and many stansbys in Disneyland (party of 8 with small children so a lot a breaks to eat). Wednesday with less people LL were harder to get with the refresh but still possible.
Hey Trevor I have a question I hope you can answer, I am going to Disneyland on November 5th my girlfriend bought her ticket with her family along with a lighting lane multi pass. I'm buying mine as well today along with the lighting lane multi pass as well. When we arrive and scan our ticket will we automatically have the lighting lane on the app? Also how would we book rides? Together if we brought separate tivkets
How does Lightning Lane work with rider switch? If you do rider switch will you get to still use the LL if you bought it or will they cancel out? Also, what would you suggest for a family doing rider switch at rope drop? We have a 13, 10 and 2yo and want to donthe main rides at rope drop (space mountain, matterhorn, big thunder, haunted mansion) but are unsure how to navigate with the time limit to go back for the rider switch.
Thank you so much for your videos! You and your family are adorable. I have a question-you and Amy mentioned requesting the Fantasyland side of the Matterhorn and, I think, said it’s due to it being a little easier on your back. Did I understand that correctly?
Hey, I love your content and coming from the uk forum first visit next Feb I keep rewatching to learn 😂 BUT I can’t find the video that tells me what shoes Aimee wears that are waterproof. Can you tell me what make they are please
@@Lucas8578 Vessi Waterproof Shoes - crrnt.app/VESSI/YvWL-GnP If you ever need them again, I’ve been putting links to all the products we use in the parks in the description of every video starting back in July maybe. So anything on the newer end has the links in the description.
Hi. I'm visiting with my family around Christmas. I know its going to be busy so... I have a 4 year old that may not be 40 inches tall by then. Is it worth getting them LL since they won't be able to ride all the rides?? I know ride swap is also a thing that my wife and I can do as well. How do you feel about that verses LL? Thanks.
In April when I was there I was 40 mins late for autopia and they told me the line was too long for me to skip with my genie plus reservation since I was late. Standby was 45 mins. I agree with you fast pass was easier to understand and say.
Weird, I’ve been late before without issues. I wonder if it depends on the cast member. The one time that happened to me, though, I just scanned in an hour late and it turned green and I didn’t even speak to a cast member.
When you buy LL up front you must buy it for the whole Length of the ticket or can you choose less, like 3 days of tickets but only 1 or 2 have Lightning Lane?
Love your videos and content! Question for you, Do you know if they are going to let you keep the new service in your tickets if you had pre purchased tickets with genie plus prior to the change?
Thank you so much for your videos! Now if we have a hopper and start at DL, how soon can we buy a LL for Cars and multiple pass for a ride time in DCA and do we need to be in that park physically to do so? Thank you! 🙏
@@krystalkrysmas6705 You do not need to be in DCA, no. We grabbed a Toy Story just as soon as we scanned into Space Mountain. The time to ride just needs to be after 11 AM. You won’t be able to get in before then.
Very helpful! My family of 5 (kids ages 16, 13 & 13) are flying out west and will be visiting Disneyland / Cali Adventure on Monday, August 19th. We’ve need to Disney World many times and have no problems walking the parks all day long to get on as many rides as possible so we think we will be able to do the same at Disneyland. Question: Which park should we rope drop? I was thinking Disneyland since Cali Adventure has early entry that day and we don’t want to compete with the hotel guests who arrive early at Cali Adventure. However, Disneyland is open later so maybe we should rope-drop Cali Adventure instead? Thanks!
Early entry affects very little at Disneyland unless you’re dead set on rope dropping either Peter Pan or Guardians, as these are the two rides that early entry guests will drive up to 25 minute waits before rope drop. If you want to rope drop those rides, start in the park that doesn’t have early entry. But Disney hotel guests are fewer here at DL. Primarily because there’s only 3, but also because they’re all deluxes. We have no value resorts and $600/night is a huge ask for 30 extra minutes. As you saw here, we did plenty at DCA in the 6 hours we were over there. 9 of their 18 rides. The only thing I’d add to this schedule is single ridering Radiator Springs Racers. In fact, in a typical day, we’d pass on Grizzly and I’d probably exchange that time for RSR and you’re golden with this schedule.
My theory: way more people were testing the new system than normal so LL availability was being snatched up way faster than normal. This is the problem with a system like this. The more popular it is, the worse the experience and value proposition becomes. You should do a follow up challenge to see if you can hit all the same rides in one day without LL. I bet you come close.
Trevor, from the east coast I watch your posts a lot because the answer everything I think I want to know and more. I recently saw a Vlog from you suggesting to get LL. In May 2025, I'll be with two other adults staying at the Grand Californian as a DVC member. We plan, probably, 2 day in each park. When we did this before we didn't use LL, has that changed? Your recommendation takes into account Amount of days?..adults with or w/o children? Time of year? any other variable I might not have mentioned?
@@thomasboates-cg8zk 4 days it’s less necessary for sure. I still like it if you have the money for it just as a stress-reliever. When we went to WDW this is how we did it. We used LL for the first day in each park, and then only on Magic Kingdom for the second go around. Over here, with a similar sort of suggestion, I would say once for Disneyland and once for DCA. And then you could decide if you wanted it on a second Disneyland day. It’s not necessary for DCA I don’t think, but I still like it when I have it.
How does the battery life on your phones hold up with all of the refreshing on the app? We are there for 3 days this coming week, will be using lightning lane , and are considering our options for portable chargers. Would you recommend buying one beforehand or purchasing one at the park that can be swapped out for a full one if needed?
@@wendywilliams7623 Amy uses a fuel rod, but it doesn’t last very long. Like 30% recharge maybe? You can swap for a fresh one of course as much as you need to. I have one that magnetically attaches to my iPhone. No cords. I love it. It can fully charge your phone from 20% at least twice, possibly a third time. I’ve never had it run out on me and I use my phone A LOT for filming. This is what I have: amzn.to/4bwC2Ev
We are going to DL for the first time in October with 4 and 7 year old girls, do you have suggestions for an itinerary for 2 days in Disneyland? Trying to figure out how to group rides in DL for the most efficient day. Also, do you recommend spending 1 day at DL and 1 day at DCA? I don’t think my younger one can ride many of the rides in DCA so not sure it is worth it to go there?
Of the 18 rides at DCA, 11 of them have height requirements, so that's 7 without, and of those 7 most of them are the fairground type rides you can find almost anywhere. So if your little one is under 32 inches, then yes, you might want to skip DCA. As to an itinerary, there's way too much involved in something like that to even begin to advise you. I'd suggest writing a list of rides and prioritizing them by most important to least important, and then mostly just try to make sure you hit all the high priority rides for everyone in your party.
On Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway, Pluto is actually in almost every scene- if not all of them. He goes down the drain in the water scene and is in the window with the buildings.
@@jamiecameron-harley5001 I figured he was somewhere, but that we weren’t in the right vehicle to see him. We were first out of the drain scene, so he probably appears later in the sequence. I think we were first into the city scene then as well. So same thing.
Hey Trevor, great video, as always. We are bringing our now-old-enough-to-branch-off-from-us aged kids. Can you "split" LL? Like if my wife and I want to do/have LL for Big Thunder, but kids want to do Pirates at the same time...can you take them off of the LL guest list for BTR but get one LL for them for Pirates at the same time? Hope this makes sense...
Yes. You have the ability to select which guests are on your reservation before you make the reservation. Just make sure that if they plan to stick together that one of them has all the tickets for their immediate party linked to their app. Ideally only one person is making the reservations for the immediate party for simplicity. It can be done where they only have their own tickets and all coordinate to book at the same time, it's just more of a hassle if they want to change plans, or use our modify hack to get a better time.
@SoCal Disney Dad when you hit refresh to try and get a sooner time and don't find one, what do you do if you want to keep your original time?. Do you hit cancel or something else? Thanks. And the baked mac n cheese is the best ever. Got it three times one day.
@@CupcakeGrogan You select modify first. And the refresh the times in the modification window. If you don’t see anything you want, just back out. It won’t affect the current time you grabbed.
Yeah im going this coming Saturday and im willing to give this LL a try. Gosh i hope i have a good experience with it but something tells me its not going to be perfect
If you prepurchase lightning lane multipasa with your tickets, do you still need to enter the park before you book the first lightning lane or can you book earlier?
You still need to enter the park before you can book anything. The only benefit to pre-purchasing is locking in the lowest rate, as Disney will raise the cost on busier days. So if you’re going on a $35 day, but pre-purchased, then you only paid $30 when everyone else is paying the higher cost.
That would probably have been a better option. But I didn’t pivot well enough. What I WANTED to do was ride all the rides actually using Lightning Lane, not standby. So my starting strategy was trying to not let Indy run out to like 8 PM within the first hour and miss it completely. But given what I know now, I would have grabbed Space for 8:25 and rope dropped Indy 100%
@@allisonhalter3556 I’m sure I’ll redo it in January. I redo most of our bigger videos every year in January just so the 2025 planners have the most recent menus/prices/info etc.
At Disney World, Disney property guests can now book Multi-Pass seven days in advance. We will be at Disneyland, staying at Pixar place in two weeks. I believe we are still at 7:00am day of, correct? No advance bookings. Any help would be appreciated.
Unfortunately, Disneyland isn’t even 7 AM. You can’t book your first lightning lane at Disneyland until you are scanned into the park. Gates typically open for early entry around 7:20 AM. So that would be the earliest, provide you’re at the gate and ready to go as soon as they open.
Busy day! Would love to see you test out LLMP again (maybe not the challenge to do all the rides) just to see if the time slots are better in a few weeks. I go in September and was really good at Genie but now I’m alittle more nervous. I too know how far out certain rides usually book and made a plan but not sure if this was a fluke or will stay this way.
Hi Traver, Can you explain how you to buy the Multi LL Pass ahead of time if yiu have a season pass. I thought you said in one of the videos that you booked something at 6:30 am.
@@NancyNolteOlson No, magic key holders can’t buy it ahead of time. You have to wait until the day of and purchase it after you’re scanned into the park. Regular ticket guests have the option to pre-purchase it and lock in the lowest rate at the time of purchase, but it has to be for all days of their trip. So if they only want it one or two days on a four day trip, they still have to wait until the day of as well. Not sure about the 6:30 thing. I maybe was explaining that at WDW you used to make your first selection at 7 AM (not anymore, changed a week ago, now you make them several days in advance). Disneyland is still requiring your party to be scanned into the park before you can make your first selection.
I have noticed that some of the multi-pass rides are also single rider rides. is it still worth it to ride those rides multi pass even tho i can skip the line just by simply going into the single rider line. Thank you tho for all the good tips you gave. I will definitely use the tips you gave for my first visit. I just hope all the hicups you experienced are all fixed by the time i go in later September.
I have not been since 2019, and that was when paper fast passes were still being used. I'm confused by this lightning lane, is there any service that's free/comes with the ticket, like fast pass did? Or is the only option for non lightning pass people, the stand by line? Thanks for the helpful video!
@@SoCalDisneyDad thanks! One more follow up questions. With the demand pricing of day tickets. If you only had 1 day to go in October, would you recommend a Saturday or Monday? I’ve heard from multiple now that Monday was busier for them then Saturday.
@@jtlegionnaire6310 That depends on when those you’ve heard from have gone on Saturdays. Because during the Summer, most passholders were blocked out on Saturdays. Which does lead to some really nice weekends. But Saturdays and Sundays will continue to be when most locals visit the parks throughout the rest of the year. Mondays are fairly bad, too. They are possibly the worst of the weekdays. I think Friday and Monday have swapped places because people think Monday won’t be as bad as Friday, and that thinking as a whole has led to people using Monday for their 3-day weekend instead of Friday.
@@SoCalDisneyDad interesting thing to consider. I hadn’t considered blackout days but figured pass holder blackout dates were due to increased expectations of more people. We’re in town the weekend of October 19th, which is a blackout date. So maybe that will be better than the 21st as that’s fall break for many schools.
@@jtlegionnaire6310 Blackout dates aren’t necessarily because of more people. But mostly because Disney has to make the next pass level up more appealing so they blackout weekends that are the most convenient for people. This applies to most weekends in the Summer and Late Fall. The parks aren’t necessarily more crowded. The only two times of year I would completely avoid is Spring Break and Christmas week.
@@karenmelendrez7673 Rise is not a part of Multi Pass. It’s either standby or purchasing a LL Single Pass (previous called Individual Lightning Lane). This is a per person cost that only works on this ride. Most people will choose to standby the attraction. Which is best to do in the early morning or late evening. But be aware the ride closes before the park closes so check when it closes and be sure to ride before then.
Great job getting multiple experiences! Seems like modifying is a must do now. We usually don’t modify much so that’s a bummer. Guardians has had problems for weeks - they have elevators down in think. The LL for guardians is disappearing super early everyday
Only two of three shafts were running when we went. I think I forgot to mention that. I know a few weeks ago I witnessed only one running. That’s when I saw it 120 minutes.
@@kristinastacey4695 I only mentioned WiFi at Indy because it’s the only way. There is no cell service in that building. I generally only hop on Disney WiFi if my phone is struggling with connection. So mostly I’m on cell service.
Travor, is there any way you could email a copy of the graphic you use showing all of the Lightning Lane rides? It would be great to have that printed out for our trip in 43 days!
Ooh something just occurred to me - is photo pass still included like it used to be with Genie+? Going to Disneyland CA for the first time ever this Autumn and your videos have been a life saver!!
It appears that Disney needs to make some adjustments. You and Amy are frequent visitors and Instinctively knew something was not right but I think most people who have never been to DL or DCA would just think that the Lightning Lane Multi Pass is horrible and not worth the cost.
For sure, if you’d never purchased it before you’d never know the difference. But there’s no way that Little Mermaid should have been 7 hours out at 1 PM. 😂
How does it work as a couple if the whole family of 4 has purchased the LL Multi-Pass? Does only one adult book the passes? Or can both adults be looking at the same time?
@@neelyo I usually only recommend that one person handle the LLs. Amy and I are usually logged into the same account (mine), so that we both have access. But if she is modify refreshing for a better time, I’m not. It’s usually just one person.
It was busy when I went 8/13, but “multi pass” seemed crazier than normal. Didn’t even get on to guardians as it was sold out by around 12/1. Refreshing or”hacking” as I call it was harder than normal as well. Many times a sooner time popped up and then was gone once I clicked and I’m pretty seasoned at hacking. Hahah. Anyway, it was fun either way.
What rides you can use it on depends on the ride you received it from. For instance, Guardians and Toy Story are on the highest tier of LL. An MEP from one of these rides is good for everything in the park except Radiator Springs Racers. But an MEP from Little Mermaid won’t be useful on nearly as much. There is a list it shows you on what’s available. Previously, you could use it for rides without a Lightning lane. We used one on Luigi’s Rollickin Roadsters before. But I didn’t see the standby rides on this list when I looked. It wasn’t something I really thought about until right now though. That might be a change under the new system too.
Hi im so confused. I will be there on september and I bought with the package genie plus. That means that I have to use multiple pass. Trying to understand how to use and schedule my day
@@lizmarielvega1045 That is correct. Genie+ became Lightning Lane Multi Pass. So since you prepurchased Genie+, you will have Multi Pass. This video is more of an experiment to see if there were any unannounced changes. My how-to video from earlier in the year would be more useful to you as I walk you through using the app Step-by-Step and the process is still mostly the same. Here’s a link to that video: How to Use Genie+ at Disneyland to SKIP THE LINES in 2024 | Tips & Tutorial th-cam.com/video/473kD5q8HOE/w-d-xo.html
I'm your 900th like! 😁 I'm also concerned about the new LL Multipass! I struggle with it already and if you're being challenged I'm in trouble! 😬 We're coming during Halloween. 🎃 👻
Hi Traver - Can you tell me if any rides at Disneyland have multiple checkpoints for LL scanning? For example I know every ride in WDW that has 2 checkpoints vs those that have only 1. Asking bc I can’t book my next LL until second checkpoint at WDW. Thanks love your content !
If two people are going together can both of you use the app to book a LL? Or, opposite of that, if one of the couple wants to be in charge of booking a LL, can they book for both?
One person should book everything for the whole party on one device. It gets complicated if you each try to do it for your own tickets. You should have both tickets linked to one account and that one account manages it for both.
@@mirandagreen94 Exactly this. Our last time we purchased LL we grabbed a Space Mountain at 4 PM in the afternoon and it was out to like 6 at the worst. At least 8 rides in both parks were available immediately, and the only ride that applied to this visit was small world. Even Autopia and Buzz were more than an hour out if you didn’t Modify to get a better time.
Great video as always! One theory I have is they are directing a lot of people who are being denied DAS to buy the lightning lanes instead. I’m in multiple DAS groups on Facebook and many people have shared this, or Disney sometimes giving them 2 LL when they are denied. Not sure if this is contributing, but just wanted to share. Thanks for the videos, me and my family always look forward to them.
I want to call it Fast pass. I still do. Just not out loud. I never have had a Multi experience pass. So it doesn't matter to me. But what a bizarre day. Amy rocked it. Doing all the refreshing. And did you get around to buying the Jungle Cruise mug? I would buy.
@@lizoyd18 In a way, doing it during a crazy week is a good display of what’s possible even during a week that many say was the busiest since Spring Break. But I agree, most people should have an easier go of using the system as most weeks aren’t this hectic.
QQ: if there are four of us in the fam, do we "drive" our choices from just one phone? If we are all doing the same things that would be handy. On the other hand, if we divide up, how do we handle that then?
@@tiffanykarow You can select which tickets you want to make a reservation for. It’s one of the required steps when making a new reservation every time. So if you want to split up, you can. When you are all together, I recommend handling it all from one device. Be aware, if you do split up, the person who will be handling the reservations for the second group will need, at a minimum, the tickets of all people in their immediate party linked to their phone. You could link your entire party’s tickets to that phone as well if you want them to be able to make reservations for the whole group, too.
That looked like a tiring but good day! It does seem like they are staggering the release of them. Would be interesting to see if it’s the same next time. Also, I still like fast pass best; straight to the point! The cheesy pretzel from Maurice’s Treats was so good!!! We took notes from your food videos!
While in the line for Matterhorn, what did Amy mean by, “I hope we get the Fantasyland side?” 11:42 Also, I’m really interested to see more of these new Lightening Lane test videos over the next couple of months, bc if it continues looking like it did on this day, my main takeaway becomes that it’s no longer worth it to pay extra for that service. Really interested to hear your evolving thoughts in the coming weeks/months. Thanks Traver & Amy!
It is, but it’s on Single Pass. As is Rise of the Resistance. Which is a separate paid feature. This is what replaced Genie+ and is called Multi Pass (for multiple rides on just one service).
What about a park hopper video? to get the most out of the park hopper. I have some ideas I I would best utilize it but would love that video>> oh you know before dec ;)
@@GP_NW I take park hopper for granted so much that I didn’t even think about making a video about it. Thanks for the recommend! We could absolutely do this.
Does anyone have any experience with using genie+/multipass with rider swap? We went in March and purchased genie. I have a 2 year old and 3 older children. So we were using the rider swap as well as genie. It was sort of a hassle but we ended up scanning everyone in for genie even though one adult sat out so that we could book another attraction. Then whoever waited my 2 year old just got a rider swap. Is scanning everyone in at once necessary? Can you book your group another attraction if one person hasn’t scanned in? It was a bit much to keep track of so I was wondering if there was an easier way to do things or if I’m just stuck juggling genie and rider swap until my youngest is older. We’re going again in November.
@@tesamacomber4391 This is the way it needs to be done. Yes. Then have them issue a rider swap for the other person. In a two adult situation this may seem strange. But if you had something like 4 adults and a child and only one adult sat out, this is just the best and most efficient way to operate. I was going to suggest each of you booking separate lightning lanes (something you could have done on the old Fastpass). But I’m concerned that now that it’s a paid feature, they wouldn’t let you get a rider swap if the other person doesn’t have a lightning lane. I think they want all party members to scan in to prove that you have it. But I’m not positive. You usually need to have the party sitting out present anyway to get a rider swap. So this shouldn’t be too complicated to scan everyone in first.
I was waiting for that video to come as we pre-purchased Genie+ for August 9th which now automatically turned into Multi Lighting Lane Pass (wait, what was it called again? 🙄). This „change“ seems to be totally useless to me and I got the feeling that Disney wasn‘t really prepared for the system change as you discovered rides with no people waiting in lighting lanes even though no lane was available before in the app. I hope that this will not be the case for our „once in a lifetime“ visit to California 🙈. Anyway, love your videos and the positive mindset of your whole family! ❤
After booking a LL time, Amy tries to modify for a better time. 1-Does she use your phone to modify the time. Or 2- Dose the LL reservation show up on her phone and app and allow her to make modifications?
@@monim405 After you make a reservation, the current reservation shows up on your plans. You select the three dots next to it and a drop down menu appears. One of those options is Modify.
@@monim405 Amy and I are logged into the same account when we do it. But so long as each party member has everyone else’s tickets linked to their accounts, then they should have access to everything. But in general, I only recommend a single person handle the lightning lanes. It’s much less complicated when just one person is in control of everything. For example, if I went with 4 other people, but didn’t have any of their tickets on my account, and one of the others had all of ours and was in charge of lightning lanes. On my own phone I should be able to see the reservation. But if I tried to modify it, it would likely only modify my own because I don’t have the other 4 party members tickets linked to my account. I wouldn’t have access to their reservations if they aren’t linked.
This video was super helpful for me! 7/29, I had really good success as a first-time visitor to DL using Multi-Pass & leading a less intense crew that wanted to do a variety of LL & standby-only lines. Almost none of these LL were the time I wanted on the first try but I always got a much better time (
Love this! Would you do an updated lighting lane video to see if there are improvements to the lighting lane, my family purchased lighting lane for Monday August 19
One video idea I'd love to see is- for rides that have an outdoor element- seeing if they're better in the daytime or at night. For example, I found Jungle Cruise to be sort of dark and creepy at night, but Radiator Springs Racers was absolutely beautiful! I know it might take a long time for you to make since you usually leave the parks early, but I do think it would be valuable for trip planning! :)
@@parissinclair6513 Good idea. Racers is indeed great at night, especially right at sunset, as are Incredicoaster and Pixar Pal-around.
They are all better at night! Lol
Good idea!
My favorite is Storybook Land Canal Boats at night, followed by Big Thunder at night. Splash Mountain at night used to be great, too!
So helpful. Thank you!
A couple things I am not clear on:
1) When you had two attractions booked at the same time bc of the two-hour rule, were you still able to choose another attraction after scanning into the first of the two? And,
2) Were you able to book another attraction while holding onto that multiple experiences selection you got bc Thunder Mtn was closed?
Maybe on the monthly crowd update videos, you can add how far out the current LL is for each ride. Just to give us an idea of what to expect if we purchase LL multi pass.
@@mandy900812 Something to consider. I’ll try to work it in. Thanks for the recommend.
Thank you for sacrificing driving time to stay late and finish the challenge! This was quite the watch and I'm so glad I watched till the end, I was cheering y'all on the whole time!
THANK U THANK U THANK YOU! i’m going to disney next week and i was so panicked about this when ive barley understood genie+ 😭😭😭
@@robinsons5646 It makes a lot more sense once you start using it. It’s not particularly hard to use, but it definitely sounds confusing until you get your hands on it.
This is a great video to show how to best mix Lightening Lanes and Standby to have a great experience at Disneyland! I think that is the best way to maximize your enjoyment of the parks! Thanks for another great video!!
Thank you for all your helpful videos. Our family of 7 is traveling to Disneyland in December. What is the best way to work the app for families? Should we load all our tickets onto one of our Disneyland accounts and then my wife and I both sign into that account on the app to access our tickets and make Lightning Lane reservations?
Great video. I wanted to see how Lightning Lane Multi Pass now works at Disneyland, and it seems to be about the same at Disneyland. Also, I didn't know about the 2-hour stacking feature, or the refresh tip. We'll make even better use out of LLMP now. Thanks. First time viewer, and I'm looking forward to checking out your other videos.
Thank you! And welcome! If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I’m always happy to help if I can.
This has been very informative, thank you! I have not been back since COVID so the whole new fast pass approach has seemed overwhelming. What crowd calendar do you use? Also, have you used the LL since posting this and have you seen an improvement in availability? It seems a little stressful trying to manage what to book and when to be efficient. Any suggestions on what to do if you are not park hopping? We tend to do a multi day pass where we commit one day to DCA and the others to Disneyland as just hasn't seemed worth the extra cost and time jumping from park to park in the past for us.
I have not used it since. No. You’ll have an easier time not park hopping. Just hit what’s available for what you want to do. And focus on the priority rides first if it looks like they’re disappearing quicker.
Planning me and my sons first trip to Disneyland in October, your videos have been not only helpful but they get me all excited about the upcoming trip. Keep up the great work
Nice challenge and very interesting . My strategy is just to book my first LL at rope drop and keep modifying for the afternoon. I just keep getting more every 2 hours so they are stacked for the afternoon. Works well if you aren’t park hopping. I hope my strategy isn’t messed up with the name change.
That’s all well and fine if you’re okay with only getting 5-6 lightning lanes.
We ended up using at least 12, which would take 24 total hours if you were stuck with one only every 2 hours.
Last time we did this challenge, we actually managed to get something like 16 lightning lanes (there were only 18 total rides on the service at the time).
Thats something that’s just not possible with stacking, but it works for some people and so long as it does what they want, then it’s all good.
@@SoCalDisneyDad I’ll have to go back and rewatch that other one. I’ll clarify that we didn’t have a park hopper so it’s just the LL in one park and we are able to use all the LL but we are open to close people since we don’t go often - so yes, it takes allllll day. 😂 We use the Golden Hour for Fantasyland.
I should also add that we don’t stack them all. We might have 3 stacked by noon then we when we use one we can book another for a ride that has a more immediate return time.
The hope is to rope drop the favorites and then be able to ride them again in the afternoon/ evening with LLs but as your video showed, breakdowns happen and it’s not always possible.
Great video! We felt the same way. We went Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. We were there at 7:45am all three days. Friday was manageable but Thursday and Wednesday were bananas. It was just bonkers the way LLs disappeared.
BTW thank you so much. I watched 7 months of your vids to prepare for this trip. We were able to every single thing on our must-dos and lots of bonus things thanks to you, Amy and the tots. I even happened upon that boysen slushie and pretzel bread and they were a winning combo!
The bananas-level crowds did not detract from an amazing trip, and we felt so relaxed and well-researched.
Ok so if you stack lightening lanes. Let’s say you have “1” for 2:00 that you set first, but then your 2 hour window is up and you booked the “2” for 1:30. Once you use “2” at 1:30 can you book another? Even though “1” was booked first. Sorry if that’s confusing. Trying to understand the stacking better.
That’s correct. Once a reservation passes the 2 hour mark, it’s no longer relevant for selecting a new pass.
You could make that first reservation for 8 PM at night if it’s already out that far (Guardians might be in this boat right now). Once you pass that first two hour window, the new lightning lane you make becomes the one you either have to use or wait two hours for.
That 8 PM reservation can sit there all day but it won’t impact new reservations after the first 2 hours.
One of our viewers said they stack everything for the evening.
How that works is you just keep modifying your reservations.
For instance. Say you make the first reservation for 9 AM because that’s as far out as it goes at rope drop. At 8:45 you can modify it to say 11:30 or whatever it’s currently out to at that point.
Your 2-hour window is from the original time you booked the lightning lane. It doesn’t reset when you modify. So you can still book another at 10 AM.
To get all your lightning lanes for the evening, you just have to keep modifying them to push them later and later.
Does this make sense?
I have a question: if you have to choose one option what would you choose:
Option 1: 3 days with park hopper with LLMP
Option 2: 5 days 1 park per day
Option 3: 5 days with hopper
Family of 4 (kids age 3 and 11) and looking to go the week of Sep 16-21. Please help! Thank you so much!😊
@@Tangled20244 5-Day Park Hopper.
OR Option 4: 5-Days 1 Park Per Day, but buy LLMP at least for one Disneyland day.
@@SoCalDisneyDadthank you!! 😊 going to go with option 4 lol
i love the hour long videos ! keep the tips comin 🎉
Do you have a strategy video for park hopping with multi pass? Prioritizing Indy and original guardians of the galaxy during October.
Provost Park Pass did a whole video about Pluto during M&M's RR. I can't believe you got all of the rides done!
@@needanap2needanap232 It was down to the wire! We were getting tired and almost called it early, but we left it up to Benjamin and he wanted to keep going.
@@SoCalDisneyDad Awe! Such a trooper and brave!
Thank you for the helpful video! We're excited to go in October. Does it show the availability of the rides in BOTH parks or just whichever park you are currently in? Could we park hopper back and forth depending on what ride we have LL for?
You can change the park in the app, but it only shows one park at a time. And you can't select a ride in the other park until after 11 AM at least due to hopping restrictions. But you can absolutely hop back and forth if you like. You'll have to keep switching the app from Disneyland to DCA and back, though.
Great content, as usual. We are in the dreaming of going back phase and love watching to relive the experience. Question for you, Traver. I'm wondering if refreshing so much is a difference or was it something that was just as helpful with the old Genie+ system?
@@kimInVic_88 It definitely worked for us often enough this visit.
The times we struggled I had a few theories.
So, if they were limiting lightning lanes for whatever reason, then there’s less to go around and more competition.
If there were more people buying it there was more competition.
Or, it’s possible people just weren’t letting them go. Especially with Star Tours given the new scenes that released in April if folks haven’t seen them yet.
For other rides, especially given that Guardians ran out at Noon, folks might have hung on to them knowing they couldn’t get it again.
Why did they run out so fast? That’s the big question. Disneyland has never had supply issues with Lightning Lanes. That’s a WDW problem.
And to that, I have no answer still.
Great video as always! Excited to get back to the park!🔥
Hey 👋 - we were at Disneyland on Wednesday (thanks for all of your tips, by the way)... The one thing I noticed... When I would go in to modify my LL time, I'd get one time offered (i.e. 5:00pm), but once I confirmed to accept the new time or new ride with that time... It would confirm it with a MUCH layer time... I'd be expecting that 5:00pm and then I'd end up with 8:20pm...
It was such a disappointment because it did not help with trying to plan... it was my first time at Disneyland, but I always used Genie at Disney World and never had the time pushed out so far when changing, so not sure if that was the new change or park-based.
I just felt like I was losing... would have been fair to show the updated time and asking if you still wanted to change.
Main plus, we got Guardians first thing and we rode it twice after getting another pass due to Monsters breaking down.
Definitely going to provide feedback to Disney.
So the time you see when refreshing is what’s available right that second. But it takes you a few seconds to process it’s a time you want and click it. In that time, if someone else clicked it, then they get it. So when you click, it just gives you the next available time.
So long as you make it to the screen where it asks if you want to confirm this new time, you’re locked in to whatever time is showing and can take a few seconds to decide if you truly want that time.
So in the situation you’re describing, I see 5 PM, click, and it now shows 8 PM on the confirmation screen, it just means someone else was faster than me.
This is why I was saying that competition seemed fiercer than it usually is at DL.
But I still think they were short-stocking the LLs because it does not usually work this way at Disneyland. It was acting more like WDW.
I hope it goes back to how Genie+ was. We go for the holiday season and have always had amazing luck with Genie+
I’m hoping this was first day (or first week I guess) technical issues.
Was there monday and wednesday, Monday was really packed and was able to ride all but 2 LL and many stansbys in Disneyland (party of 8 with small children so a lot a breaks to eat). Wednesday with less people LL were harder to get with the refresh but still possible.
@@bettinos9929 So it does seem to be related to the new system. Now is it a temporary bug or permanent new “feature”?
Hey Trevor I have a question I hope you can answer, I am going to Disneyland on November 5th my girlfriend bought her ticket with her family along with a lighting lane multi pass. I'm buying mine as well today along with the lighting lane multi pass as well. When we arrive and scan our ticket will we automatically have the lighting lane on the app? Also how would we book rides? Together if we brought separate tivkets
How does Lightning Lane work with rider switch? If you do rider switch will you get to still use the LL if you bought it or will they cancel out?
Also, what would you suggest for a family doing rider switch at rope drop? We have a 13, 10 and 2yo and want to donthe main rides at rope drop (space mountain, matterhorn, big thunder, haunted mansion) but are unsure how to navigate with the time limit to go back for the rider switch.
Thank you so much for your videos! You and your family are adorable. I have a question-you and Amy mentioned requesting the Fantasyland side of the Matterhorn and, I think, said it’s due to it being a little easier on your back. Did I understand that correctly?
@@JoyShaw-e5r That is correct. Yes. It’s a little smoother.
Thanks!
Great video ! I’m going Friday August 2nd and we’re park hopping. Thank you for such great info !
Hey, I love your content and coming from the uk forum first visit next Feb I keep rewatching to learn 😂 BUT I can’t find the video that tells me what shoes Aimee wears that are waterproof. Can you tell me what make they are please
@@Lucas8578 Vessi Waterproof Shoes - crrnt.app/VESSI/YvWL-GnP
If you ever need them again, I’ve been putting links to all the products we use in the parks in the description of every video starting back in July maybe. So anything on the newer end has the links in the description.
Hi. I'm visiting with my family around Christmas. I know its going to be busy so... I have a 4 year old that may not be 40 inches tall by then. Is it worth getting them LL since they won't be able to ride all the rides?? I know ride swap is also a thing that my wife and I can do as well. How do you feel about that verses LL? Thanks.
In April when I was there I was 40 mins late for autopia and they told me the line was too long for me to skip with my genie plus reservation since I was late. Standby was 45 mins. I agree with you fast pass was easier to understand and say.
Weird, I’ve been late before without issues. I wonder if it depends on the cast member.
The one time that happened to me, though, I just scanned in an hour late and it turned green and I didn’t even speak to a cast member.
When you buy LL up front you must buy it for the whole
Length of the ticket or can you choose less, like 3 days of tickets but only 1 or 2 have Lightning Lane?
Love your videos and content! Question for you, Do you know if they are going to let you keep the new service in your tickets if you had pre purchased tickets with genie plus prior to the change?
@@breeannvosberg9627 Yes. It’s a seamless change. Basically in name only. If you bought Genie+, you’ll have Multi Pass
@@SoCalDisneyDad thank you much for taking the time to reply!
Thank you so much for your videos! Now if we have a hopper and start at DL, how soon can we buy a LL for Cars and multiple pass for a ride time in DCA and do we need to be in that park physically to do so? Thank you! 🙏
@@krystalkrysmas6705 You do not need to be in DCA, no. We grabbed a Toy Story just as soon as we scanned into Space Mountain. The time to ride just needs to be after 11 AM. You won’t be able to get in before then.
Very helpful! My family of 5 (kids ages 16, 13 & 13) are flying out west and will be visiting Disneyland / Cali Adventure on Monday, August 19th. We’ve need to Disney World many times and have no problems walking the parks all day long to get on as many rides as possible so we think we will be able to do the same at Disneyland. Question: Which park should we rope drop? I was thinking Disneyland since Cali Adventure has early entry that day and we don’t want to compete with the hotel guests who arrive early at Cali Adventure. However, Disneyland is open later so maybe we should rope-drop Cali Adventure instead? Thanks!
Early entry affects very little at Disneyland unless you’re dead set on rope dropping either Peter Pan or Guardians, as these are the two rides that early entry guests will drive up to 25 minute waits before rope drop.
If you want to rope drop those rides, start in the park that doesn’t have early entry.
But Disney hotel guests are fewer here at DL. Primarily because there’s only 3, but also because they’re all deluxes. We have no value resorts and $600/night is a huge ask for 30 extra minutes.
As you saw here, we did plenty at DCA in the 6 hours we were over there. 9 of their 18 rides.
The only thing I’d add to this schedule is single ridering Radiator Springs Racers.
In fact, in a typical day, we’d pass on Grizzly and I’d probably exchange that time for RSR and you’re golden with this schedule.
My theory: way more people were testing the new system than normal so LL availability was being snatched up way faster than normal.
This is the problem with a system like this. The more popular it is, the worse the experience and value proposition becomes.
You should do a follow up challenge to see if you can hit all the same rides in one day without LL. I bet you come close.
It definitely could be “shiny new thing” syndrome. 😂
And the TH-camrs probably all did it right after release to make their videos, so I bet it was worse than normal for the first week or so.
Trevor, from the east coast I watch your posts a lot because the answer everything I think I want to know and more. I recently saw a Vlog from you suggesting to get LL. In May 2025, I'll be with two other adults staying at the Grand Californian as a DVC member. We plan, probably, 2 day in each park. When we did this before we didn't use LL, has that changed? Your recommendation takes into account Amount of days?..adults with or w/o children? Time of year? any other variable I might not have mentioned?
@@thomasboates-cg8zk 4 days it’s less necessary for sure.
I still like it if you have the money for it just as a stress-reliever.
When we went to WDW this is how we did it. We used LL for the first day in each park, and then only on Magic Kingdom for the second go around.
Over here, with a similar sort of suggestion, I would say once for Disneyland and once for DCA. And then you could decide if you wanted it on a second Disneyland day.
It’s not necessary for DCA I don’t think, but I still like it when I have it.
How does the battery life on your phones hold up with all of the refreshing on the app? We are there for 3 days this coming week, will be using lightning lane , and are considering our options for portable chargers. Would you recommend buying one beforehand or purchasing one at the park that can be swapped out for a full one if needed?
@@wendywilliams7623 Amy uses a fuel rod, but it doesn’t last very long. Like 30% recharge maybe?
You can swap for a fresh one of course as much as you need to.
I have one that magnetically attaches to my iPhone. No cords. I love it. It can fully charge your phone from 20% at least twice, possibly a third time. I’ve never had it run out on me and I use my phone A LOT for filming.
This is what I have:
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We are going to DL for the first time in October with 4 and 7 year old girls, do you have suggestions for an itinerary for 2 days in Disneyland? Trying to figure out how to group rides in DL for the most efficient day. Also, do you recommend spending 1 day at DL and 1 day at DCA? I don’t think my younger one can ride many of the rides in DCA so not sure it is worth it to go there?
Of the 18 rides at DCA, 11 of them have height requirements, so that's 7 without, and of those 7 most of them are the fairground type rides you can find almost anywhere.
So if your little one is under 32 inches, then yes, you might want to skip DCA. As to an itinerary, there's way too much involved in something like that to even begin to advise you.
I'd suggest writing a list of rides and prioritizing them by most important to least important, and then mostly just try to make sure you hit all the high priority rides for everyone in your party.
What do you do with your bag/backpack when you are riding rides? Can you take it on or are there lockers you rent at each ride?
You can take bags on every ride at DL except the silly company swings which has a designated place to put your bags.
I love the long video!!! Keep those coming! I'm hoping the new LL is worth it.... we have it in our package for our upcoming trip.
On Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway, Pluto is actually in almost every scene- if not all of them. He goes down the drain in the water scene and is in the window with the buildings.
@@jamiecameron-harley5001 I figured he was somewhere, but that we weren’t in the right vehicle to see him. We were first out of the drain scene, so he probably appears later in the sequence.
I think we were first into the city scene then as well. So same thing.
Something to look for another time! 😊
Hey Trevor, great video, as always. We are bringing our now-old-enough-to-branch-off-from-us aged kids. Can you "split" LL? Like if my wife and I want to do/have LL for Big Thunder, but kids want to do Pirates at the same time...can you take them off of the LL guest list for BTR but get one LL for them for Pirates at the same time? Hope this makes sense...
Yes. You have the ability to select which guests are on your reservation before you make the reservation.
Just make sure that if they plan to stick together that one of them has all the tickets for their immediate party linked to their app. Ideally only one person is making the reservations for the immediate party for simplicity. It can be done where they only have their own tickets and all coordinate to book at the same time, it's just more of a hassle if they want to change plans, or use our modify hack to get a better time.
@SoCal Disney Dad when you hit refresh to try and get a sooner time and don't find one, what do you do if you want to keep your original time?. Do you hit cancel or something else? Thanks. And the baked mac n cheese is the best ever. Got it three times one day.
@@CupcakeGrogan Yeah, just back out of the screen. It won’t do anything to your existing time if you don’t select a new one.
@@SoCalDisneyDad so your refreshing the page hoping for a new time but don't hit modify until you get the better time you're looking for?
@@CupcakeGrogan You select modify first. And the refresh the times in the modification window. If you don’t see anything you want, just back out. It won’t affect the current time you grabbed.
@@SoCalDisneyDad thank you so much for answering my questions. That’s what makes you and your family great TH-camrs.
Great video! Always so fun and informative! Thank you!
Thank you. Very helpful.
Yeah im going this coming Saturday and im willing to give this LL a try. Gosh i hope i have a good experience with it but something tells me its not going to be perfect
@@unbreakable2543 It never is perfect. But make the most of it and you’ll have a great time.
@@SoCalDisneyDad thank you. Real briefly can u explain how you refresh to check for better times??
@@unbreakable2543 Once you have made a selection, go back to that ride and click the drop down menu and choose “modify”
@@SoCalDisneyDad great! Thanks again. Take care
If you prepurchase lightning lane multipasa with your tickets, do you still need to enter the park before you book the first lightning lane or can you book earlier?
You still need to enter the park before you can book anything. The only benefit to pre-purchasing is locking in the lowest rate, as Disney will raise the cost on busier days. So if you’re going on a $35 day, but pre-purchased, then you only paid $30 when everyone else is paying the higher cost.
we are wondering if we should buy this pass - new to us
What about doing Indiana Jones as your rope drop ride? Wondering if that’s a good strategy for lightening lanes
That would probably have been a better option. But I didn’t pivot well enough.
What I WANTED to do was ride all the rides actually using Lightning Lane, not standby. So my starting strategy was trying to not let Indy run out to like 8 PM within the first hour and miss it completely.
But given what I know now, I would have grabbed Space for 8:25 and rope dropped Indy 100%
We go in February. I would love an update in a few weeks/months to see if they’ve fixed some bugs.
@@allisonhalter3556 I’m sure I’ll redo it in January. I redo most of our bigger videos every year in January just so the 2025 planners have the most recent menus/prices/info etc.
That locker chamber of commerece thing is insane! I wonder why that is?
Appreciated seeing this video, thanks so much!
At Disney World, Disney property guests can now book Multi-Pass seven days in advance. We will be at Disneyland, staying at Pixar place in two weeks. I believe we are still at 7:00am day of, correct? No advance bookings. Any help would be appreciated.
Unfortunately, Disneyland isn’t even 7 AM. You can’t book your first lightning lane at Disneyland until you are scanned into the park. Gates typically open for early entry around 7:20 AM. So that would be the earliest, provide you’re at the gate and ready to go as soon as they open.
Not what I wanted to hear, but I fully appreciate the response. Best to you and yours.
Busy day! Would love to see you test out LLMP again (maybe not the challenge to do all the rides) just to see if the time slots are better in a few weeks. I go in September and was really good at Genie but now I’m alittle more nervous. I too know how far out certain rides usually book and made a plan but not sure if this was a fluke or will stay this way.
I could probably do this on a day I’m there by myself (to make it a cheaper retest).
Hi Traver, Can you explain how you to buy the Multi LL Pass ahead of time if yiu have a season pass. I thought you said in one of the videos that you booked something at 6:30 am.
@@NancyNolteOlson No, magic key holders can’t buy it ahead of time. You have to wait until the day of and purchase it after you’re scanned into the park.
Regular ticket guests have the option to pre-purchase it and lock in the lowest rate at the time of purchase, but it has to be for all days of their trip. So if they only want it one or two days on a four day trip, they still have to wait until the day of as well.
Not sure about the 6:30 thing. I maybe was explaining that at WDW you used to make your first selection at 7 AM (not anymore, changed a week ago, now you make them several days in advance).
Disneyland is still requiring your party to be scanned into the park before you can make your first selection.
I have noticed that some of the multi-pass rides are also single rider rides. is it still worth it to ride those rides multi pass even tho i can skip the line just by simply going into the single rider line. Thank you tho for all the good tips you gave. I will definitely use the tips you gave for my first visit. I just hope all the hicups you experienced are all fixed by the time i go in later September.
I have not been since 2019, and that was when paper fast passes were still being used. I'm confused by this lightning lane, is there any service that's free/comes with the ticket, like fast pass did? Or is the only option for non lightning pass people, the stand by line?
Thanks for the helpful video!
@@jtlegionnaire6310 Standby line is the only thing that comes with your ticket. This is the old FastPass system. It just costs money now.
@@SoCalDisneyDad thanks! One more follow up questions. With the demand pricing of day tickets. If you only had 1 day to go in October, would you recommend a Saturday or Monday? I’ve heard from multiple now that Monday was busier for them then Saturday.
@@jtlegionnaire6310 That depends on when those you’ve heard from have gone on Saturdays. Because during the Summer, most passholders were blocked out on Saturdays. Which does lead to some really nice weekends.
But Saturdays and Sundays will continue to be when most locals visit the parks throughout the rest of the year.
Mondays are fairly bad, too. They are possibly the worst of the weekdays.
I think Friday and Monday have swapped places because people think Monday won’t be as bad as Friday, and that thinking as a whole has led to people using Monday for their 3-day weekend instead of Friday.
@@SoCalDisneyDad interesting thing to consider. I hadn’t considered blackout days but figured pass holder blackout dates were due to increased expectations of more people.
We’re in town the weekend of October 19th, which is a blackout date. So maybe that will be better than the 21st as that’s fall break for many schools.
@@jtlegionnaire6310 Blackout dates aren’t necessarily because of more people. But mostly because Disney has to make the next pass level up more appealing so they blackout weekends that are the most convenient for people.
This applies to most weekends in the Summer and Late Fall.
The parks aren’t necessarily more crowded.
The only two times of year I would completely avoid is Spring Break and Christmas week.
Thanks for the info! Great video as always !
We are going Dec. 24th, just one park (Disney Land) so is the lightning lane pass worth it? It seems a little confusing, and very time consuming.
Hi 👋 how can we ride Rise of the resistance with this new system and avoid long lines?
@@karenmelendrez7673 Rise is not a part of Multi Pass. It’s either standby or purchasing a LL Single Pass (previous called Individual Lightning Lane). This is a per person cost that only works on this ride.
Most people will choose to standby the attraction. Which is best to do in the early morning or late evening. But be aware the ride closes before the park closes so check when it closes and be sure to ride before then.
Great job getting multiple experiences! Seems like modifying is a must do now. We usually don’t modify much so that’s a bummer. Guardians has had problems for weeks - they have elevators down in think. The LL for guardians is disappearing super early everyday
Only two of three shafts were running when we went. I think I forgot to mention that.
I know a few weeks ago I witnessed only one running. That’s when I saw it 120 minutes.
@@SoCalDisneyDadh❤
Do you recommend only using the Disney WiFi within Indy and using cell data everywhere else?
@@kristinastacey4695 I only mentioned WiFi at Indy because it’s the only way. There is no cell service in that building.
I generally only hop on Disney WiFi if my phone is struggling with connection. So mostly I’m on cell service.
Travor, is there any way you could email a copy of the graphic you use showing all of the Lightning Lane rides? It would be great to have that printed out for our trip in 43 days!
Is the fantasyland side of Matterhorn calmer? We have our 2nd Disneyland trip in December and I’m thinking of trying to ride if it is. 😂
We think it’s “smoother” but both sides are still quite bumpy.
I just love all your videos!
Love the videos me in preparation for our visit in 19 days. Would just wish there were chapters in the videos. Great work though
Love this video. "it is what it is, but we're having fun".
Ooh something just occurred to me - is photo pass still included like it used to be with Genie+? Going to Disneyland CA for the first time ever this Autumn and your videos have been a life saver!!
@@conniekucani2772 I believe it is. Yes.
Thanks for the fun video! I am halfway and will need to finish it tomorrow though - the suspense will kill me!
It appears that Disney needs to make some adjustments. You and Amy are frequent visitors and Instinctively knew something was not right but I think most people who have never been to DL or DCA would just think that the Lightning Lane Multi Pass is horrible and not worth the cost.
For sure, if you’d never purchased it before you’d never know the difference.
But there’s no way that Little Mermaid should have been 7 hours out at 1 PM. 😂
How does it work as a couple if the whole family of 4 has purchased the LL Multi-Pass? Does only one adult book the passes? Or can both adults be looking at the same time?
@@neelyo I usually only recommend that one person handle the LLs.
Amy and I are usually logged into the same account (mine), so that we both have access. But if she is modify refreshing for a better time, I’m not. It’s usually just one person.
Can you do a video on how early you get to parking for role drop??
It was busy when I went 8/13, but “multi pass” seemed crazier than normal. Didn’t even get on to guardians as it was sold out by around 12/1. Refreshing or”hacking” as I call it was harder than normal as well. Many times a sooner time popped up and then was gone once I clicked and I’m pretty seasoned at hacking. Hahah. Anyway, it was fun either way.
Can you use an Multi Experience pass on any ride? Like a ride that doesn’t have lightening lanes?
What rides you can use it on depends on the ride you received it from.
For instance, Guardians and Toy Story are on the highest tier of LL. An MEP from one of these rides is good for everything in the park except Radiator Springs Racers.
But an MEP from Little Mermaid won’t be useful on nearly as much. There is a list it shows you on what’s available.
Previously, you could use it for rides without a Lightning lane. We used one on Luigi’s Rollickin Roadsters before.
But I didn’t see the standby rides on this list when I looked. It wasn’t something I really thought about until right now though.
That might be a change under the new system too.
Hi im so confused. I will be there on september and I bought with the package genie plus. That means that I have to use multiple pass. Trying to understand how to use and schedule my day
@@lizmarielvega1045 That is correct. Genie+ became Lightning Lane Multi Pass. So since you prepurchased Genie+, you will have Multi Pass.
This video is more of an experiment to see if there were any unannounced changes.
My how-to video from earlier in the year would be more useful to you as I walk you through using the app Step-by-Step and the process is still mostly the same.
Here’s a link to that video:
How to Use Genie+ at Disneyland to SKIP THE LINES in 2024 | Tips & Tutorial
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@@SoCalDisneyDad Thanks!!!
I'm your 900th like! 😁 I'm also concerned about the new LL Multipass! I struggle with it already and if you're being challenged I'm in trouble! 😬 We're coming during Halloween. 🎃 👻
Hi Traver - Can you tell me if any rides at Disneyland have multiple checkpoints for LL scanning? For example I know every ride in WDW that has 2 checkpoints vs those that have only 1. Asking bc I can’t book my next LL until second checkpoint at WDW. Thanks love your content !
@@Michimarie91 None. Disneyland doesn’t do the second checkpoint.
You can immediately start booking another lightning lane.
@@SoCalDisneyDad thank you!!
If two people are going together can both of you use the app to book a LL? Or, opposite of that, if one of the couple wants to be in charge of booking a LL, can they book for both?
One person should book everything for the whole party on one device. It gets complicated if you each try to do it for your own tickets.
You should have both tickets linked to one account and that one account manages it for both.
That's crazy!! We went a month ago and the LL for space was way less than 2 hours and the park was VERY crowded!!
@@mirandagreen94 Exactly this. Our last time we purchased LL we grabbed a Space Mountain at 4 PM in the afternoon and it was out to like 6 at the worst.
At least 8 rides in both parks were available immediately, and the only ride that applied to this visit was small world. Even Autopia and Buzz were more than an hour out if you didn’t Modify to get a better time.
Great video as always! One theory I have is they are directing a lot of people who are being denied DAS to buy the lightning lanes instead. I’m in multiple DAS groups on Facebook and many people have shared this, or Disney sometimes giving them 2 LL when they are denied. Not sure if this is contributing, but just wanted to share. Thanks for the videos, me and my family always look forward to them.
That might be! I completely forgot about that. This is our first time using LL since the DAS changes went into effect.
I want to call it Fast pass. I still do. Just not out loud. I never have had a Multi experience pass. So it doesn't matter to me. But what a bizarre day. Amy rocked it. Doing all the refreshing. And did you get around to buying the Jungle Cruise mug? I would buy.
@@lisabostrack24 I did not. But I absolutely will pick it up on Tuesday (next visit). We just didn’t want to get a locker.
Geez you guys gonna have to do this again on a different week, this is crazy
@@lizoyd18 In a way, doing it during a crazy week is a good display of what’s possible even during a week that many say was the busiest since Spring Break.
But I agree, most people should have an easier go of using the system as most weeks aren’t this hectic.
QQ: if there are four of us in the fam, do we "drive" our choices from just one phone? If we are all doing the same things that would be handy. On the other hand, if we divide up, how do we handle that then?
@@tiffanykarow You can select which tickets you want to make a reservation for. It’s one of the required steps when making a new reservation every time.
So if you want to split up, you can. When you are all together, I recommend handling it all from one device.
Be aware, if you do split up, the person who will be handling the reservations for the second group will need, at a minimum, the tickets of all people in their immediate party linked to their phone. You could link your entire party’s tickets to that phone as well if you want them to be able to make reservations for the whole group, too.
@@SoCalDisneyDad Thanks much... I think we'll just stick together and have one hand on the wheel 🙂
18:12 W dad, love that you're considerate of the people around you
I vote for the name Fast Pass to return! 😊
That looked like a tiring but good day! It does seem like they are staggering the release of them. Would be interesting to see if it’s the same next time. Also, I still like fast pass best; straight to the point! The cheesy pretzel from Maurice’s Treats was so good!!! We took notes from your food videos!
FastPass was also just a simpler name. They’ve really confused everything with tons of very similar terminology.
Benjamin, I'm right there with you on Guardians. Never again! 🤣
While in the line for Matterhorn, what did Amy mean by, “I hope we get the Fantasyland side?” 11:42
Also, I’m really interested to see more of these new Lightening Lane test videos over the next couple of months, bc if it continues looking like it did on this day, my main takeaway becomes that it’s no longer worth it to pay extra for that service. Really interested to hear your evolving thoughts in the coming weeks/months.
Thanks Traver & Amy!
The fantasyland side is “less bumpy” than the Tomorrowland side. It’s still bumpy but not as bad.
What about the cars ride . In CA is it still there ?
It is, but it’s on Single Pass. As is Rise of the Resistance. Which is a separate paid feature.
This is what replaced Genie+ and is called Multi Pass (for multiple rides on just one service).
@@SoCalDisneyDadthank you love the vids . Taking the kids in October lots of great advice 👍🙌🙌🙌
What about a park hopper video? to get the most out of the park hopper. I have some ideas I I would best utilize it but would love that video>> oh you know before dec ;)
@@GP_NW I take park hopper for granted so much that I didn’t even think about making a video about it. Thanks for the recommend!
We could absolutely do this.
Does anyone have any experience with using genie+/multipass with rider swap? We went in March and purchased genie. I have a 2 year old and 3 older children. So we were using the rider swap as well as genie. It was sort of a hassle but we ended up scanning everyone in for genie even though one adult sat out so that we could book another attraction. Then whoever waited my 2 year old just got a rider swap. Is scanning everyone in at once necessary? Can you book your group another attraction if one person hasn’t scanned in? It was a bit much to keep track of so I was wondering if there was an easier way to do things or if I’m just stuck juggling genie and rider swap until my youngest is older. We’re going again in November.
@@tesamacomber4391 This is the way it needs to be done. Yes. Then have them issue a rider swap for the other person.
In a two adult situation this may seem strange. But if you had something like 4 adults and a child and only one adult sat out, this is just the best and most efficient way to operate.
I was going to suggest each of you booking separate lightning lanes (something you could have done on the old Fastpass). But I’m concerned that now that it’s a paid feature, they wouldn’t let you get a rider swap if the other person doesn’t have a lightning lane.
I think they want all party members to scan in to prove that you have it. But I’m not positive.
You usually need to have the party sitting out present anyway to get a rider swap. So this shouldn’t be too complicated to scan everyone in first.
I was waiting for that video to come as we pre-purchased Genie+ for August 9th which now automatically turned into Multi Lighting Lane Pass (wait, what was it called again? 🙄). This „change“ seems to be totally useless to me and I got the feeling that Disney wasn‘t really prepared for the system change as you discovered rides with no people waiting in lighting lanes even though no lane was available before in the app. I hope that this will not be the case for our „once in a lifetime“ visit to California 🙈. Anyway, love your videos and the positive mindset of your whole family! ❤
I, too, I’m hoping it’s an early days bug that it’ll fix itself. And not the way the system will work from here on out.
My vote is to call it Multi Lightning Genie Fast Pass +. It rolls right off the tongue.
Wait what!? Does the fantasyland side of the Matterhorn hurt less?
@@Newsiwzerland3737 That is correct.
Thank you for the video
After booking a LL time, Amy tries to modify for a better time. 1-Does she use your phone to modify the time. Or 2- Dose the LL reservation show up on her phone and app and allow her to make modifications?
@@monim405 After you make a reservation, the current reservation shows up on your plans. You select the three dots next to it and a drop down menu appears. One of those options is Modify.
@@SoCalDisneyDadbut does it show up on the apps of the people in your party?
@@monim405 Amy and I are logged into the same account when we do it.
But so long as each party member has everyone else’s tickets linked to their accounts, then they should have access to everything.
But in general, I only recommend a single person handle the lightning lanes. It’s much less complicated when just one person is in control of everything.
For example, if I went with 4 other people, but didn’t have any of their tickets on my account, and one of the others had all of ours and was in charge of lightning lanes. On my own phone I should be able to see the reservation. But if I tried to modify it, it would likely only modify my own because I don’t have the other 4 party members tickets linked to my account. I wouldn’t have access to their reservations if they aren’t linked.
@@SoCalDisneyDadPerfect that what I thought you guys log into the same account on separate devices? Think You for the job you do.
@@monim405 Correct. Amy is on her own phone, but she logs into my account.
How much would it be for 4 people on passes that goes every year?
@@jennipennyhernandez7006 It cost us $24/person for Multi Pass because of our Magic Key discount.
Great job guys!
Amy’s bag is SO cute!!! 🍊