Present! - Linotype with Jim Gard

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  • @johnthomson2164
    @johnthomson2164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am 80 now, I worked both Linotype and Intertype machines for the Scottish Daily Express in Glasgow from 1957 till 1974 when the paper closed. Great machine, great memories. Thanks for great video.

  • @Nancy3766
    @Nancy3766 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    In 1963 I took the job of teletypesetter for a daily newspaper. I punched teletype tape to feed to the linotype machine. What an experience! When the plant of the newspaper was blown up because of a gas water heater flame igniting fumes from cleaning the old flatbed press, we were ushered into the high speed printing world. I spent over 50 years progressing from the remarkable linotype age to where we are now with computers. I retired from the position of publisher in 1997 but never stopped writing. I am so glad I experienced the full progress of modernizing publishing newspapers. I am now 86 but I still love the newspaper. Thank goodness for my computer.

    • @tigermike69
      @tigermike69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was born in 1963, joined a paper in Calcutta as a sub-editor in 1985... Those machines -- and their operators -- were fascinating Imagine working with those machines in summer with just an industrial fan to prevent you from melting like the lead. Today, I use such videos in my classroom!

    • @haroldfarthington7492
      @haroldfarthington7492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should write a book about it!

  • @snuffkin666
    @snuffkin666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that you have a Sigwalt 10! I’ve just refurbished one and am learning how to use it. If only I had time and run for my own LineOtype! Thank you for sharing that video!

  • @garybarton3843
    @garybarton3843 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A fascinating video, but I'd sure like to see it redone in HD. Someone, when I was much younger told me, "learn to run a Linotype and you'll have a job for life!". I did but I didn't!
    It is will always be one of the greatest inventions of all time, for it really brought down the cost of printing for the masses.

  • @loveinnerchild0
    @loveinnerchild0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was incredible! Thank you for the detailed visual and audio video!

  • @PremVideo-Live
    @PremVideo-Live 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used to work on one of these machines for a printing company in Zimbabwe called the Manica Post in the latest 70’s. It’s an amazing machine and a joy to work on.

  • @west
    @west 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The method of doing the expandable space was really clever. Such an amazing mechanical marvel!

  • @jimgard2609
    @jimgard2609 15 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An indicator on an advancing rule shows the remaining space on the line. When near the end of a line, the operator looks at the remaining space vs. the number of space bands. If there are enough, the remaining space will fill up when they are lifted (expand). If not, the operator types another word, or portion of it with a hyphen.
    Sometimes, especially on narrow lines, there's no way to space it cleanly. So, you add fixed spaces with the space bands, or letterspace a word.

  • @petruhreanu7738
    @petruhreanu7738 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am lucrat 30 de ani la acest tip de masina. Mi-am iubit enorm meseria, cea de LINOTIPIST!

  • @williamlarson2759
    @williamlarson2759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great..sure miss my dad..he was so proud to be a Lithographer!

  • @IgnacioAOlivar
    @IgnacioAOlivar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My father was a journalist and he worked for a local newspaper during my childhood. My first lessons of design, layout a page of a newspaper, columns, measures was at the shop of this newspaper. Talking every afternoon with linotype operators, seeing the proccess of photo clisé made me discovery the passion of graphics arts.

  • @DDEB12
    @DDEB12 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the great video. It took me back to my times in the composing room of my local newspaper. I used to operate the Linotype, Ludlow and Elrod (not all at the same time - lol). When eventually they were phased out and computers took over the silence was deafening. It was never the same.

    • @johnthomson2164
      @johnthomson2164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same job as me here on Glasgow

    • @josephgaviota
      @josephgaviota ปีที่แล้ว

      I, too am an old Intertype/Ludlow/Elrod operator! That's back when an extra 3 pts of lead meant three pts of LEAD !!!

  • @johnnevillegmail
    @johnnevillegmail 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I used to work on these too, and moved many ooh what a headache lol i have all the books relating to these machines, installation,servicing maintenance , full set

  • @k0rc
    @k0rc 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for posting this video! I worked for the Mergenthaler Linotype Company during the 1970's installing the new "analog" typesetting machines that were the precursor to the digital technology used today. The Linotype machines remained in use, parallel to the new equipment, for many years while the workforce adjusted to this "new technology". If I recall, the keyboard layout was not the same as today's QWERTY system.
    Edison was right, the Linotype machine was the 8th wonder of the world!

  • @SLWatson
    @SLWatson 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I must be one of the few people under the age of thirty-five who operated a Linotype; a model 41, in my father's shop. I was apprenticed practically from birth, and remember the smell and the sound. And, like you, was a member of the International Typographical Union, before it became part of the CWA.
    Damn shame these things aren't a part of the world anymore. And I say this even while typing on a computer.

  • @andrewkiwi1
    @andrewkiwi1 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my parents used to own a small print shop out here in New Zealand. We had a model 32 with most ly sparton,helvetica,and times roman from 6pt to 18pt. I uesd to work there for 6 years. I stil have faded scars on my left arm from selecting the wrong mold on the mold wheel and having a squirt. I miss that old lino , now 25 yrs later im a mechanic. cheers Andrew

  • @MouYijian
    @MouYijian 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I live in a small town near Rome. Our typographer still prints businnes cards out with that small printer, but he assembles the glyphs manually. Using such a huge mechanism as a Linotype just for composing name, surname, address and telephone number(s) would be highly antieconomical. But the result doesn't change at all: beautifully neat and tridimensional characters not just printed, but almost ENGRAVED into the paper. Old-fashioned typing, made art.

  • @robertdeisenroth7121
    @robertdeisenroth7121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad was a lion type operator for 45 Plus years. He had his own business in suburban Chicago up until 1981. Just recently passed away but he loved his linotypes. I worked for him for 20 years and used to make the pigs for the lead slugs.. a hot Smokey dirty job. Melting down all the old type and making new pigs.
    Otypes

  • @josephgaviota
    @josephgaviota ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the red stripe on your second elevator cam! Reminds me of the '60s Batmobile.

    • @jimgard2609
      @jimgard2609 ปีที่แล้ว

      At one time I hoped that someone would recognize the machine for the safety paint on the cam so I could find out where it came from. It will remain a mystery.

    • @josephgaviota
      @josephgaviota ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimgard2609 Risking TMI ... When I was in my early 20s, I ran a set of "tape mills" (Intertype machines that ran on 6-level TTS tape). Once in a while a mat would fly out, and land on the floor. I'd lean over the 2nd elevator cam, pull out the 2nd elevator plunger, and slide the matts on to the distributor rail.
      I wore "coveralls," a one-piece oversuit, so my street clothes would stay clean. One time, while I was reaching and leaning, the cam began to turn, and some of the cloth from the front of my coveralls got stuck ... I stood on my toes, and the cam circled, and luckily, no private parts damaged.

  • @jennhoff03
    @jennhoff03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, terrible camera work, but excellent everything else! :) I've been watching videos about Linotypes to try and figure out how the matrices go back into the machine. I couldn't find it anywhere else. That was so interesting! Thanks, Jim! :)

    • @jennhoff03
      @jennhoff03 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      P.S. My only remaining query is- what happens when you make a mistake while you're typing? Do you take the line out and put it down where the arm can take the matrices back up?

    • @jackaw1197
      @jackaw1197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jennhoff03 I read that normally they just fill in the rest of the line with easily identifiable gibberish from the first two columns of the keyboard (similar to typing qwertyuiop on a modern keyboard) and its gets discarded later. I think that is much faster than manually adjusting the line.

    • @jennhoff03
      @jennhoff03 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackaw1197 Awesome!!!!

    • @HenryLoenwind
      @HenryLoenwind 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jennhoff03 The manufacturer's intention is that you send the line while holding down the "don't cast" lever. It will then be processed normally, just without lead actually being injected. It seems people found it too tiring to lift up their left hand to that lever that sits 4 inches above the keyboard and instead gibberished the line and hoped the proofreader would sort it out. Which often didn't happen, so those lines ended up in print.

  • @FarceTheory
    @FarceTheory 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best Linotype video I've seen!

  • @parkerea1
    @parkerea1 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! It is sad that so few people really understand how remarkable the Linotype is, and how it literally changed the course of history, almost as much as movable type did. Invented in the mid 1880's, the Linotype remained in use for almost hundred years (!) before being replaced. I was a Graphic Communications (i.e. printing) major at Cal Poly SLO, and our family business had about a dozen. I spent many hours watching them run, though only ran a few lines through them myself.

    • @jennhoff03
      @jennhoff03 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I'm 32 years old and heard about it for the first time today! Printing presses get all the attention. :)

  • @jimgard2609
    @jimgard2609 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's no metal vapor. The type metal is a eutectic alloy of lead, tin, and antimony at 535 F (280 C).
    The machine is pre-OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) in the U.S. Some later machines had more guards.
    Yes the seat is missing the back, but I use it because it has wheels - I can roll back from the machine.
    I come in contact with type metal every day of my life. When I last had a blood sample they checked for lead - none was found.
    Fear lead paint, not type metal.

    • @jennhoff03
      @jennhoff03 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your replies are so interesting to read! This machine is amazing. I can't believe I'm only discovering it for the first time in my 30s.

  • @josephgaviota
    @josephgaviota ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many hours I've spent running the Linos (actually Intertype machines).
    As a teen, so many of my pants had lead on them for various squirts.
    I once made the mistake of taking my finger trying to knock a matt off the top of a line of type in the assembling elevator, and WHAM, the 2nd elevator came down, and took the tip of my left index finger off.
    Won't do _that_ again.

  • @k0rc
    @k0rc 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Follow-up...
    Somewhere tucked in a drawer at home I have a single Linotype Matrix which has the entire 26-letter alphabet. This was given out at trade shows as a demonstration of the high quality that could be produced with the Linotype equipment.

  • @jimgard2609
    @jimgard2609 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andrew, I have been very careful to select a proper mold. The only squirt I've had was when I cast a a border slide and had put it in upside down. A waterfall of molten type metal came pouring out of the top. It took hours to chip it all out.
    The only burn I've gotten from the machine was from the light fixture. After that I changed to a compact florescent and haven't been burned since.

  • @error.418
    @error.418 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was amazing to watch, thank you so much

  • @jimgard2609
    @jimgard2609 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you are having trouble with your own linecasting machine, please take your questions or discussion to the Yahoo group: IntertypeWorld. The description: This group is for folks who own, or who are interested in, Intertype Lincecasting Machines. Also welcomed to this group are folks interested in Linotype, Elrod, and Ludlow slug and strip casting equipment. Ask questions; chat about your equipment, and generally enjoy the conversation. Please post often and keep this list active! Enjoy!

  • @kdw75
    @kdw75 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have two of these exact machines at work. We last used them about 5 years ago. A couple of guys buying old equipment offered use two grand for both machines, but we were too attached to them and wanted to hang on to them to show my grandchildren someday.

  • @mexcalus
    @mexcalus 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to be an linotype operator back in 1960, in Guaymas, México. Who remembers "La Gaceta"?
    Yo fuí linotipista en "La Gaceta" de Guaymas, Sonora, en 1960.

  • @steveburrington4288
    @steveburrington4288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! I am in the process of restoring a printing press. Do you know where I can purchase a smaller press for business cards?

  • @Neptunehugh
    @Neptunehugh 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As one compositor typesetter to another, you did a great job Jim Gard. I was never good enough to "hang" lines during production but many of my colleagues were. I concentrated on accuracy of typing so less corrections had to be done. Beware of the "front and back splashes"!!!

    • @jimgard2609
      @jimgard2609 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neptune Hugh Thank you. Occasionally I'm setting the short little date code slugs that are only a few characters and I can hang one and watch it wait to go on the elevator. But the text I set carefully and I never get ahead of the machine. Only had a couple of squirts - my fault in both cases.

    • @Neptunehugh
      @Neptunehugh 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Gard Good man Jim. Occasionally I would forget to change the ejector blade and ruin a . . . I have forgotten the correct name for the item that determines the slug length in ems and the body width in points. A change of . . . I must Google it and find out. Keep up the good work. Printing was such an interesting job when I was in the trade in the '70s through to the mid '90s. Our company changed from hot metal to "New Technology" (computer typesetting) in the mid '80s but alas went bust in the mid '90s.

    • @Neptunehugh
      @Neptunehugh 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neptune Hugh Just remembered. A liner. My old brain cells (aged 60) are still ticking over!

    • @jennhoff03
      @jennhoff03 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neptune Hugh- What happened when you typed a letter incorrectly? Did you just manually pull out the line and put it where the arm could take the matrices back?

  • @stephenpark8133
    @stephenpark8133 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Worked on both Intertype and Linotype - wished I own one.
    It's an amazing machine, so many cogs doing there bit.
    from: the Old Composer

  • @GaneshRamachandra135
    @GaneshRamachandra135 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks, jimgard2609, for the interesting info about a fascinating machine. Best wishes.

  • @tomkent4656
    @tomkent4656 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An amazing piece of engineering.

  • @jimgard2609
    @jimgard2609 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    The keyboard is an etaoin shrdlu layout. Mergenthaler could have used the qwerty keyboard that was becoming popular with typewriters of the time, but chose to use this much more efficient layout based on character frequency of use.
    The alphabet mat fits all 26 letters into a 6 point square. I have a couple of these mats and the Pecks enjoy it so much they insist that I put the little square into printing work I do for them.

  • @mikeklaene4359
    @mikeklaene4359 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing machines - do they jam like a typewriter can or are there interlockings to prevent that?
    Also, how much does one weight?

  • @josephgaviota
    @josephgaviota ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's the SMALLEST press I've EVER seen !!
    I notice you lock up the type in the chase with _screws!_ Never seen that before!
    I was at the Smithsonian, looked at their printing exhibit, and noticed they showed "coin keys" !!! Can you even believe it? Everybody (in printing) knows it's quoin keys!

    • @jimgard2609
      @jimgard2609 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Baltimore No. 10 has screws in the chase because it's too small for quoins. It was never meant to have slugs, just a few lines of hand-set type.

  • @Bill25cycle
    @Bill25cycle 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was 10 years old, for the next 3 summers I ran a Linotype Model #5 built in 1900, 47 years older than this model for my dad in a small print shop in Buffalo, N.Y. Ours had a rare electric pot (most 1900 models were gas fired), and it had a brand new 1/3 hp 1160 revolution per minute 60 hz drive motor (most were 850 rpm ), I'm wondering what speed it ran at 65 years earlier since I would guess they just put a smaller pinion gear in to keep the clutch wheel running at 70 rpm. Mel is your machine a 3 phase motor or do you have a single-phase model?

  • @FarceTheory
    @FarceTheory 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @mikeylik7051 I made a mistake. The Short Jaw is used for Quadding. This is out side the Vise at the very top. I’m convinced that the machine lost power in mid cycle.
    I’m having difficulties finding it in my manual. I have a index to refer to if you or anyone would like to suggest any.
    Most Thankfull

  • @SyNRG
    @SyNRG 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the cool video, really interesting machine!!

  • @Nudekwood
    @Nudekwood 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very inforamtive video, thank you.

  • @robotMadeByEvolution
    @robotMadeByEvolution 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting way to print stuff.
    How did the machine handle horizontal justification?
    Desktop publishing programs do maths to work out whether a word should be pushed over to the next line, squashed onto the current line or hyphenated so that it is partly in both lines. How did the Linotype user know whether the words they were typing would fit onto a line?
    Also, anyone know how expensive Linotypes were compared with today's PC+software combo? Thanks in advance & thanks for posting the vid.

    • @1958david1
      @1958david1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      robotMadeByEvolution spacebars m8.

  • @frankoarrow5632
    @frankoarrow5632 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a wonderful machine but long ago I guess I'd still like to use the older Gutenberg method with some people or in the 1900s, use a typewriter or something. This type of stuff makes me VERY thankful that we have had wordprocessor machines since the 80s and computers with modern word procesor programs and printers since the 80d too.

  • @LoveAndPeece
    @LoveAndPeece 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Jim! That is Way cool!

  • @FarceTheory
    @FarceTheory 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    ? Could someone help me! I have a Lino model 8. And I can't open the vise. After the first elevator where the matrices are pushed left. I believe that the Short Jaw is not in it's appropriate place. I could be wrong, But it is located at the very top of the vise and is preventing me from opening it. Please help!

  • @bkjackson8092
    @bkjackson8092 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Total longshot, but if anybody knows of a working linotype in AZ I'd love to hear about it. I'm researching this for fiction & while the online stuff has helped, what I really need is an up close & personal view and hopefully to see one at work. Although I do hope lead has been replaced with some safer material!

  • @delevingne
    @delevingne 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super ! Thanks.

  • @jimgard2609
    @jimgard2609 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, this one is all electric. A single 1/3 HP motor drives the mechanism and immersion heaters melt the type metal in the pot. The other common system for the metal pot is natural gas.

    • @lubovmazur6911
      @lubovmazur6911 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      finally, I found it.

    • @jimgard2609
      @jimgard2609 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      And - what did you think?

    • @lubovmazur6911
      @lubovmazur6911 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought it was very well done. Your delivery is very animated and comfortable. You didn't look like you in the beginning, but it was you all along.

  • @felipe200794
    @felipe200794 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hell yeah, I definitely wanna be an engineer

  • @jolovesminnis
    @jolovesminnis 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this electric?

  • @FarceTheory
    @FarceTheory 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @mikeylik7051 I was obsessed with that page last night. Noted! Thank you very much. Until next time I find my self out of sorts.

  • @jimgard2609
    @jimgard2609 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please - call it type metal. Too many misinformed people are afraid of the L word.
    The only part of the machine that has ever burned me is the light fixture on the front. I changed it to a twisty bulb and it's been okay ever since. Not to say it's never happened - I've had my share of squirts.

  • @rebekahambrose5839
    @rebekahambrose5839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So basically, this giant machine makes tiny stamps?

    • @jackaw1197
      @jackaw1197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they might make thousands of lines that get assembled into plates for books or newspapers. The press in the video was very small, but you can imagine large, automated ones, printing whole pages of a newspaper. And there might be rooms with dozens of workers making these short lines.

  • @FarceTheory
    @FarceTheory 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @mikeylik7051 I will try this tomorrow. I have no intention of forcing it. I found it! It’s the delivery with the short and long fingers together as if they contain no matrices. Directly above the vice before matrices are pulled down to the mold. I have "Linotype Machine Principles" published 1940. And I’m very new at this.
    Pleas keep in mind I am fully capable.

  • @SLWatson
    @SLWatson 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait. Wasn't a 41, no such beast. 14.

  • @FarceTheory
    @FarceTheory 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    ? Linotype Model 8 Success the cams are rotating every thing is moving and, Ya its not stopping! Once in a while it will after a cycle or many. The clutch works and the control handle works. I have Linotype machine principles if anyone can refer me to page and part. Thank you

  • @AndyTaylorprinter
    @AndyTaylorprinter 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do love an amateur

  • @nwesterbeckmaster
    @nwesterbeckmaster 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    i met him in real life lol

  • @GaneshRamachandra135
    @GaneshRamachandra135 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what those machines did to their poor operators' health.
    The engineering of a Linotype seems great but a Health & Safety Executive officer in the UK today would faint on seeing one: metal vapour in the air, moving machine parts near bodies, no arm or back rests on the seats and -- scariest of all -- molten lead close by!
    I'm a sub-editor. The Linotype operator's job is now part of mine. If it were not for computers I'd have so much lead in me I could probably wear uranium underpants.

  • @sivadmg
    @sivadmg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    it seems like a complicated, barbaric typewriter