Thank you guys so much for putting all the time and work into breaking these down! Always look forward to hearing what you both think, especially with these two events.
Google's I/O was... fine? I don't think anything truly wowed me like yesterday's OpenAI event but there's a lot to like here. I really do love being able to search for my license plate in Google Photos.
Definitely agree with you Gavin. I think there are some really cool things especially the NotebookLM but I felt like there was a ton of info and it felt a little disjointed and all over the place. Interested to play with these things once they're available.
@@DrewRohaly Yeah, it's funny watching it back a few times when putting this together even the places they talked about stuff felt like it was all over the place - like they jumped around a LOT. I totally get the pressure that Sundar and the rest of them must be under tho.
well I truly appreciate all the up to the minute news. I know it’s been off schedule for you guys but I gather you’ll be getting busier as AI goes nuclear and everyone is talking about it nonstop. It seems that way already but truly most people barely think or discuss the topic. To most people it seems AI is a generic term for automatic but what you’ve brought to light is the exciting frontier that is a gold rush like no other
@@AIForHumansShow Please don't make it a regular thing then. I'm sure coordinating a time Kev having 2 find the correct Hotel parking lot 2 "borrow" the good Wi-Fi seems like a lot
The 2 AIs talking about science was pretty interesting. I feel AI Teachers would greatly help humanity as a whole by at least raising the average across the board in every country. We could always use some brighter bulbs. Having a Halo like Cortana personal assistant i feel is the logical step forward to have baseline on every phone. Hallucination would have to be solved first though!
honestly, if we can truly solve hallucination i think these would leap in usefulness so much was listening to the vergecast this week and their biggest criticism (justified imo) against all the news this week was the fact that you absolutely cannot trust these to respond without hallucinating. if that gets solved, so many people would immediately convert
Awesome breakdown, thanks guys I also found myself underwhelmed by Google here. It feels like they're just spread too thin, where OpenAI is a tightly-knit team working towards a singular goal. All the features were neat, they were just too scattered...
yeah it's funny you mention the scattered thing -- looking back on it it seemed like it didn't even fit into sections, we had to jump around to all the different places when we were covering it etc
I just had this off the wall thought about the licence plate ID capabilities. In the event of an "Amber Alert" type situation, Tesla style cars on the network could CHOOSE to opt in, for a.i. to search plates in real time and forward the info to police? It's a terribly slippery slope, and I'm trying to find the good in it, which there is little.
I definitely hated how nothing was ready for primetime, especially that convo on NotebookLM - WHICH - had tiny text that said it was prerecorded audio!
Agree with the sentiments. Appeciate that Google is really thinking about how this technology can actually improve upon daily lives and enhance what users are already doing with their products. (not just slapping a chatbot into the search bar that interrupts behavior patterns. *cough* meta *cough *)
Yeah, it's true one of the things we'd love is just to have all this stuff *work*. But to be honest, that might be a hard thing to deploy across the board from a company like Google.
@@AIForHumansShow lol. yeah I looked him up and saw he ran the OG show, that’s so freaking awesome. Props to both of y’all for the work you’ve done over the years! I was just a teenager watching the old show and now I’m a middle aged man One minute we’re out here breakdancing in fat suits and the next we’re geeking out about ai. Nerds. Nerds never change.
@@AIForHumansShow well, the only users to have access to some Google's products at the moment are americans, right? I'm brazilian and I still can't use many things I see poeple having access to. Isn't that an America First approach? For example, look at the message I'm seeing right on my screen: NotebookLM is currently only available in the U.S. NotebookLM is only available in the U.S. for users 18 and up
yeah they spent sometime in the latter part of this video talking about android and actually it was pretty interesting, that's the section the google nano stuff comes from
@@LikelyKevin Im sorry, I meant did Google focus on Android? I thought it was all AI all day today and tomorrow they'd focus on Android--and maybe Chrome, Gmail, maybe even ... TH-cam.😱👍😁
.... Fart GOT'EM! Seriously though searchin through and trusting AI (4 me) is a bit much. I have 2 cross check so much stuff jus cuz I don't trust the internet. Could b cool but we'll c. Leave my fridge alone though. I don't need 2 have things ordered 4 me thank u very much, I can go pick it up myself. My wife would love it, no access 2 drive herself but trusting it would b tough. BUT we shall c
I would like to mentioned I see a trend here. I see OpenAi leaving the old boyfriend Microsoft and going to bed with Apple. I see google moving to ANDROID only. So if you want OpenAI assistant, you go to iphone and MacOS...and windows later on. However, If you want google assistant, you go to Android....and windows later on. Due to the AI mobile wars, microsoft is in a "later" position.
I wouldn't sleep on MS - the built in Windows co-pilot features are pretty robust already, and likely to get better. And they're wise to encourage OAI to cozy with Apple.
That's not really the innovators dilemma. "The dilemma itself is the fact that though large innovators have some motivation to innovate, they also have a strong disincentive from doing so as new products will undermine their existing ones." - worldofwork
uh, isn't this exactly what we said? the idea is that AI will fundamentally undermine google's search product which drives it's entire business and yes they're still IN the AI world but they could do something entirely different if they didn't have to worry about it
Yep, yep and yep. It all felt very corporate and not that exciting. I would rather have seen Demis talk for two hours but I understand the company is much bigger than that.
OpenAI feels like sleek sexy shmexy eventGoogle IO, on the other hand, looks like planetarium planning meeting by the Communist party where all the seats are taken, but they clap with sad faces Gavin just said it - it looks like lens and why can't we play with it now? they used to close streets in SF to hold this event in 2014 and jumping off the roof! 10 years later it is low key 2 hours event at their campus???
Thank you guys so much for putting all the time and work into breaking these down! Always look forward to hearing what you both think, especially with these two events.
Much appreciated. Thanks for the kind words!
Thank you for watching. We really appreciate comments like this.
100% y’all are crushing it. Love the off-cycle update videos too. Keep it up!!
You guys kick ass... So much ass
😂👀🙏
All the ass are jelly from all the kicking.
@@AIForHumansShowbut can you say fart?
Wow two in one week! Truly appreciate the work guys, love the coverage!
More to come! recording a semi-regular ep this morning!
Great summary at the end Kevin. You said exactly what I was thinking. Spot on!
Google's I/O was... fine? I don't think anything truly wowed me like yesterday's OpenAI event but there's a lot to like here. I really do love being able to search for my license plate in Google Photos.
Definitely agree with you Gavin. I think there are some really cool things especially the NotebookLM but I felt like there was a ton of info and it felt a little disjointed and all over the place. Interested to play with these things once they're available.
@@DrewRohaly Yeah, it's funny watching it back a few times when putting this together even the places they talked about stuff felt like it was all over the place - like they jumped around a LOT. I totally get the pressure that Sundar and the rest of them must be under tho.
You guys are kickin butt. You’re my fav source of AI news. 5 stars ⭐️
Many thanks! We're trying out here. :)
well I truly appreciate all the up to the minute news. I know it’s been off schedule for you guys but I gather you’ll be getting busier as AI goes nuclear and everyone is talking about it nonstop. It seems that way already but truly most people barely think or discuss the topic. To most people it seems AI is a generic term for automatic but what you’ve brought to light is the exciting frontier that is a gold rush like no other
We back already!? Let's go! Actual good comment after the video
We are back to back -- nearly killed ourselves doing these in a row but wanted to see what it would be like. WAS A LOT.
@@AIForHumansShow Please don't make it a regular thing then. I'm sure coordinating a time Kev having 2 find the correct Hotel parking lot 2 "borrow" the good Wi-Fi seems like a lot
Thank you for the breakdown and the hard work! 🙏
Thank you so very much! We wanted to try this two days in a row and good lord it hath kicked our asseths.
for the notebooklm "demo",the first thing I saw was "audio has been pregenerated"
yeah, it's funny we didn't even see that when we were recording the first time
The 2 AIs talking about science was pretty interesting. I feel AI Teachers would greatly help humanity as a whole by at least raising the average across the board in every country. We could always use some brighter bulbs. Having a Halo like Cortana personal assistant i feel is the logical step forward to have baseline on every phone. Hallucination would have to be solved first though!
honestly, if we can truly solve hallucination i think these would leap in usefulness so much
was listening to the vergecast this week and their biggest criticism (justified imo) against all the news this week was the fact that you absolutely cannot trust these to respond without hallucinating.
if that gets solved, so many people would immediately convert
Awesome breakdown, thanks guys
I also found myself underwhelmed by Google here. It feels like they're just spread too thin, where OpenAI is a tightly-knit team working towards a singular goal. All the features were neat, they were just too scattered...
yeah it's funny you mention the scattered thing -- looking back on it it seemed like it didn't even fit into sections, we had to jump around to all the different places when we were covering it etc
I don’t fear AI. However, AI should to fear Beemop.
We should all fear Bee...
I just had this off the wall thought about the licence plate ID capabilities. In the event of an "Amber Alert" type situation, Tesla style cars on the network could CHOOSE to opt in, for a.i. to search plates in real time and forward the info to police?
It's a terribly slippery slope, and I'm trying to find the good in it, which there is little.
I fcks with Perara. Can't spell your name but I subscribed just seeing you pop up bc I know it's going to be solid tech news.
A for Effort. And intention.
Chat GPT is more sexy IMO. Siri is absolutely useless. Great job guys 🎉
again, all we want is the have the new chatgpt-4o as our siri voice
there is so much we'd be asking it all the freaking time
Come on google. Turn my pixel 7 into a friend that won’t disagree with my X-men 97 theories.
ooooh controversial x-men 97 theories? we are here for it.
Lol I talk with Pi sometimes about what ifs in comics and theory all the time 😂
I definitely hated how nothing was ready for primetime, especially that convo on NotebookLM - WHICH - had tiny text that said it was prerecorded audio!
OH WHAT? I didn’t even see that part.
All these different project names... I can't keep up 😆
There are only 40 products to track, with different versions, release dates, access levels, protocols..............
honestly google would be better served by just cutting down them to google gemini and google gemini mini
Google I/O seemed ok, but i still like GPT-4o!
honestly, really and truly want to get that voice chat lady
I am late but I am here! Thanks bros.
Points awarded for attendance.
Always love Kevin's perspective! Keep it up!
...and I love this perspective. Heh. Thanks!!
oh. and what about GAVIN'S perspective hmmmmmmm?
@@AIForHumansShow Gavin is love, Gavin is Life
Agree with the sentiments. Appeciate that Google is really thinking about how this technology can actually improve upon daily lives and enhance what users are already doing with their products.
(not just slapping a chatbot into the search bar that interrupts behavior patterns. *cough* meta *cough *)
Yeah, it's true one of the things we'd love is just to have all this stuff *work*. But to be honest, that might be a hard thing to deploy across the board from a company like Google.
It’s really cool to see y’all back out here doing things after the second great G4 collapse of ‘22. Ai waifu when?
Hahaha well it's nice to have the spirit of that ol' G4 back. Gavin used to run the original Attack of the Show as well.
@@AIForHumansShow lol. yeah I looked him up and saw he ran the OG show, that’s so freaking awesome. Props to both of y’all for the work you’ve done over the years! I was just a teenager watching the old show and now I’m a middle aged man
One minute we’re out here breakdancing in fat suits and the next we’re geeking out about ai. Nerds. Nerds never change.
The America First approach spoils everything.
curious how you see the 'america first' thing working here?
@@AIForHumansShow well, the only users to have access to some Google's products at the moment are americans, right? I'm brazilian and I still can't use many things I see poeple having access to. Isn't that an America First approach? For example, look at the message I'm seeing right on my screen: NotebookLM is currently only available in the U.S.
NotebookLM is only available in the U.S. for users 18 and up
It makes being an assassin easier
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I was hoping Kevin and Gavin would cover this!
YOU GOT YOUR WISH
Yeah, YEAH! GPT-4o's event definitely wasn't planned to just be released one day before Google's I/O event to troll them. Definitely!
Thanks. totally agree - disappointing corp show..
lol we actually thought about including something like 'ai for our corporate overlords" in the title but it felt like too much
One day, we'll be using AI to summarize the keynote events. 👀
Well you can paste youtube links into gemini already...
@@NateBear I forgot to add "...oh wait."
I wonder if they used A.I. to count how many times they said A.I.
if it was google, they wouldn't have been able to figure out which model to use
@@AIForHumansShow 😂
Um, isn't there a whole SECOND DAY tomorrow? And did they focus Android at all?
yeah they spent sometime in the latter part of this video talking about android and actually it was pretty interesting, that's the section the google nano stuff comes from
They did -- we talked a bit about Gemini Nano which is a smaller model that can run on Android devices.
@@LikelyKevin Im sorry, I meant did Google focus on Android? I thought it was all AI all day today and tomorrow they'd focus on Android--and maybe Chrome, Gmail, maybe even ... TH-cam.😱👍😁
.... Fart GOT'EM! Seriously though searchin through and trusting AI (4 me) is a bit much. I have 2 cross check so much stuff jus cuz I don't trust the internet. Could b cool but we'll c. Leave my fridge alone though. I don't need 2 have things ordered 4 me thank u very much, I can go pick it up myself. My wife would love it, no access 2 drive herself but trusting it would b tough. BUT we shall c
4:14 Isn't Google a 2 trillion company while OpenAI a 100 billion?
yes, misspeak our bad!
Please cover what are the best investments opportunities for all things ai! 🤖 💰
I would like to mentioned I see a trend here. I see OpenAi leaving the old boyfriend Microsoft and going to bed with Apple. I see google moving to ANDROID only. So if you want OpenAI assistant, you go to iphone and MacOS...and windows later on. However, If you want google assistant, you go to Android....and windows later on. Due to the AI mobile wars, microsoft is in a "later" position.
I wouldn't sleep on MS - the built in Windows co-pilot features are pretty robust already, and likely to get better. And they're wise to encourage OAI to cozy with Apple.
That's not really the innovators dilemma. "The dilemma itself is the fact that though large innovators have some motivation to innovate, they also have a strong disincentive from doing so as new products will undermine their existing ones." - worldofwork
uh, isn't this exactly what we said? the idea is that AI will fundamentally undermine google's search product which drives it's entire business and yes they're still IN the AI world but they could do something entirely different if they didn't have to worry about it
second.
DonG Lover is wild
you know the whole backstory there? i still remember that going down on twitter
Google had a boomer presentation with a MBA to come up with all the clever names yet no clear ship dates and I look very canned.
Yep, yep and yep. It all felt very corporate and not that exciting. I would rather have seen Demis talk for two hours but I understand the company is much bigger than that.
I know you guys would say fart to make us happy
we do what we must
I really hope this show survives the curse of Keven because this is a great show. Please dont crumble... lol
WE WILL AVOID LE CRUMBLE
fart
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This google event sucked compared to the openai
Yeah it wasn’t great, cool stuff still but too much and kind of jumbled
OpenAI feels like sleek sexy shmexy eventGoogle IO, on the other hand, looks like planetarium planning meeting by the Communist party where all the seats are taken, but they clap with sad faces Gavin just said it - it looks like lens and why can't we play with it now? they used to close streets in SF to hold this event in 2014 and jumping off the roof! 10 years later it is low key 2 hours event at their campus???
hahaha here for the RussianQueenIrina emoji response as always
i will say the stage overall looked very nice, good art design