World of Warships Blitz - Japanese premium battleship "Shikishima" review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- I have to admit, the first two test games with this ship scared me a little - she can do rather unpleasant things to people who play stupidly. But fortunately, she's not game-breaking. Also, good grief, they love their Yamas on the ASIA server.
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I really loved your statement about battleships being obsolete in their traditional role, but not obsolete overall. The US navy didn't recomission the Iowa class battleships in the 1980ies because they were bored or they thought it was hilarious. No ship on earth can rival a battleships firepower when it comes to supporting amphibious assaults.
I appreciate your words about the crates and I despise them extremely heavily (I had nightmares about them but don't tell anybody). I sincerely hope that WG will put the smolensk up for cash or resources.
A lot of the later USN BBs were acting as carrier escorts AFAIK. And if you read about what the IJN did to Henderson field with very old battleship guns...
When the US Navy brought WWII era BBs back to active service in the 1980s it was primarily to use them in support of operations against adversaries without the capability to oppose them. They also loaded them up with cruise missiles. Which is essentially the point you were making. However, the US Navy never intended to use them against the Soviets, or Soviet client states. They are most certainly obsolete in 2020 with the proliferation anti-ship cruise missile.
It would be very unwise to deploy an Iowa class BB in the Mediterranean or Persian Gulf these days, and I also think it was unwise to activate them back in the 1980s too. Unfortunately, the decision to do so was heavily influenced by lobbyists for the defense contractors. Get enough Senators onboard and they will ram weapon systems down the Pentagon’s throat and it doesn’t matter if there is a strategic or tactical need for them or not.
There was plenty of opposition inside the Pentagon back when that decision was made. Battleships have been obsolete for well over forty years, even with their modified mission.
@@chrisdraughn5941 I agree that a battleship is a very expensive toy, and reactivating the Iowas was certainly not worth it. However, a battleship is excellent for providing coastal fire support, which is why the US navy held them in reserve and planned that the new zumwalt class destroyers would take over from them
Terry I just won this on the blitz facebook riddle giveaway. It's an absolute monster. Citadel'd a Montana five times in my second match. Thanks for the video.
Current Shikishima create did the 1 pull on the 1+1 create got the Shikishima and unique camouflage. I nearly choked on my beer the only time I have ever been lucky on a gambling create . So naturally I watched this video thanks for the tips . Keep up the good work
Players: ok we need a new battleship with big guns. Wargaming : how about a Yamato with bigger guns? The player: your joking right?
well, she's in PC as well. If you've been watching Trenlass' channel, he loves that thing.
Agree, in my case I already have Yamato. As Terry pointed out, the broadside on the regular Yamato is actually higher than the new Shikishima. So just a Yama with bigger guns but fewer of them. It has to be even more specialized. You may as well resign games with 3-4 enemy DDs. This does not make me want to immediately throw money on a crate. After Terry did a video on the stats I stopped buying crates. They need to come up with new ship types that offer a significantly different experience.
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Soon we will see an Iraqi Navy BB armed with 2 100cm Gerald Bull Babylon guns with 4 of the Baby Babylons as secodaries. Plus we will see a Kriegsmarine BB armed with 4 single gun turrets mounting Schwerer Gustav 80cm main guns with 8 of the Bismarcks 38 cm guns as secondaries. 🙄
I'm actually excited to see a European DD line at some point, that'd be a great addition in terms of gameplay variety. And I seriously need to get my hands on a Daring, that thing kept bullying me in the Shiki :)
As for the crates, as I've said elsewhere, I like people to make informed decisions - won't tell anyone to buy or not buy them, as long as they know the mechanics behind it. Personally, I spend my money on Blitz passes if there's something interesting in them, or bundles.
I do really like Yamato, and play her often. The damage is awesome but you have to be careful as carriers and DDs love you. I put a full wave of torpedoes from Minotaur in one of these Shikis and really hurt it. Seems like the ship should eat torps. I don’t think I would want fewer guns. Good review, going to pass on this one.
Thanks! I have empirically determined that you can take down a Yama with both sets of torps from a Mino. Smoke helps with not being obliterated while turning the ship around. Couple shots on the nose from the 150s seal the deal.
@@FunandGameswithTerry- With some of the newer island maps, it can be hard to stay at long range especially if there is no carrier for recon. I have been killed by Minotaurs in my Yamato once or twice along with a range of tier X DDs. I play Yam like a long range sniper. With the wild ability of the Minotaur to maneuver not to mention smoke, you are a difficult target . Not sure the person I victimized had all the dispersion mods. I also think I got hit at least once but think he over-penned me. I would imagine that is a problem but not sure. I am bringing up to Zao because I think it might be like a cross between Mino and Des Moines.
I haven't tried Zao, but my legendary Mino is about as manoeuvrable as a stock Shima. There's very little she can't take on, I play her as an oversized DD, pretty much. For IJN CAs, I'm much more on the stealth / kite / ambush style.
It's sad Wargamimg decided to make gambling so inherent in this game. And with such rediculous chances
it takes two to gamble, one who's offering the game of chance, and one who puts the coin in. Personally, I stay well away from crates - you could argue that there's no "loss" involved per se, since you always get some form of reward, just maybe not the one you wanted. That said, everyone is free to make their own decisions, and if someone has the money to spare and e.g. would rather gamble in-game than in a casino, by all means, enjoy. I just try to point out a couple of things:
* what your chances are (I've done a whole video of compound probability, and how much you'd have to pay for e.g. an 80% chance)
* what the thing you could get can do, and what it can't
* how the free alternatives compare
And at the end of the day, it's everyone's freedom of choice, as long as they understand what they're doing :)
@@FunandGameswithTerry yeah absolutely man
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The only crates i ever open are the occasional free ones. Looking at the percentages i decided to pass. Now one thing i wish we could do is if you have daily and battle award crates built up is that one could open multiple blueprint crates at a time. Right now i think I've got around 180 built up and i just recently cleaned them out. You have the option to select purchase on suppliers and oil donations. Why not here.
There are a tremendous amount of parallels between this game and slot machines, and not just with the crates.
@@chrisdraughn5941 why?
Just raw firepower and pure insanity.
At close range, she's brutal. If you get people doing stupid things, like sitting broadside on at 8km, you can punish them. But then again, you can do that in a Yama as well, and at long range, she actually has a relatively weak alpha strike.
Interesting ship if you're into that sort of gameplay, and nice to have a third Yama. Personally, not my thing :)
I like smol botes. It does look like a good snack. Lookin like a thicc bowl of oatmeal
Specialized ships like this with give you a high percentage of games with few targets for your primary weapons. Expect many BB light matches. It’s the same with deep water torpedo DD; you’ll often find yourself in DD heavy matches.
I could be operating under a confirmation bias, but regardless you will be disappointed and frustrated with matches that have 4-5 DDs and a CV on the enemy team.
I've been reviewing her on Asia, where I mostly get only one or two DDs, and whole flocks of Yamas. Very different on NA, wouldn't want to be facing triple Shimas who tend to know what they're doing. Then again, that's not fun in any top tier BB I guess
@@FunandGameswithTerry this comment didn't age well...cough Italian BBs cough cough
@@FunandGameswithTerryplaying the german dds on asia is very difficult
There is not much you can do to a battleship
Just pulled this on my 10th crate of a 10 pack, while I was having fun with Champagne. Hmm, 6 citadel happy railguns on a long range focused hull? I think I know how those work!
The only problem about this ship is her shell volume imagine having only 6 guns in t10
Also imagine the calibre - 510 mm
@@sukritbera5244 It will just overpen for sure
@@radioactiveboi842 Nope....it can punch through even the thickest BB side Armor at close to medium ranges....without overpenning and at long ranges, the falling shells will pen almost any amount of Armor and citadel the enemy. Shoot at angled or broadsided Cruisers (surely not at the thin bow or stern/aft), and you'll get devastating citadel hits. About DDs, they're gonna overpen at any angle, except a few Lucky shots, which will inflict full damage (that's the reason why the secondaries and auto-secondaries are there). Target right at the centre of CVs, and most of the shots will inflict full damage and you're gonna get citadels too. Six shells don't matter. It is your aiming, luck and the calibre of the shells that matter.
I got this ship from a giveaway in the server as part of wowsb birthday celebrations (that coincidentally comes around the same time my birthday comes, mine was on 19th January) so i technically got this as a birthday gift. I haven't played this yet but i love IJN's glass cannon strategy!
“To instill fear”
Also everyone: clueless
The Shiki is an interesting ship. If you manage to land your shells it can do some monstrous damage, but with only six shells in each salvo sometimes it can be frustrating. Though bow tanking its like the GK, just with more punch per shell.
Holy... Look at them gold, like how much did u spend on the game my guy ?
Anyway, cool video.. Thinking about getting shikishima, but i can imagine she's hella expensive..
This is my press account, it has unlimited resources - perk of being a community contributor, I use that to review ships and try out things. My personal account looks a lot more reasonable :)
Hmmm, this ship seems like a good ship for me to give my broadside to at 8km or less when i actually got a t10 and get matched with one of them.... Also on the topic of tier 10, Terry have you got the wooster yet and will you review it? Also is it just me or the stock reload on the wooster got buffed? 🤔 Also also, will you do a Black Bayern review?
Terry: punching battlecruisers
Me: Iowa isn’t a battlecruiser
I know. That's why I like saying it.
Hi.
Just wondering, I noticed your video on Yamato that you used propulsion modification on your second slot and deck protection modification on Shikishima. Don’t they have the same hull?
The Shikishima review is older, before I realised that the deck protection module is basically useless. I've since switched pretty much all ships to propulsion.
@@FunandGameswithTerry thank you :)
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Hi, me again.
Im considering on putting steering modification on both second and third slot.IJN battleships turret transverse is very slow. I m thinking of turning the ship itself. Perhaps it will help me dodge incoming fires as well(torpedoes too) . May I ask why you prefer propulsion modification instead?
How many crates did it take you to get the shikishima?
zero. That's my press account :)
@@FunandGameswithTerry hehe big brain,i am never pay anything to wargaming, they sucks at the community,so why should we buy something from them
Thank you for the information
One of the Best Videos.
Thanks,
Regards.
Thanks mate! Turned out to be a bit long, but the biggest guns in the game deserved some attention.
Merry Christmas Terry ;)
Thanks, to you too!
You've a phone with a notch in a display, rounded corners and a screen ratio of 9:19. Your settings are on "Hide the notch". Am I right?
Honestly I encountered this thing and I could not go broadside without it giving my ship a wallop of a salvo. I was in a Musashi and luckily I killed it but Jesus, this thing would probably woop a Musashi 9 times out of 10, I just got lucky.
This happened in my first or second test round, a Monty decided to try and brawl, got a double citadel for 15k in return. But at long ranges of about 15km, she's very much on-par with the other top tier BBs. Single ships don't make such a big difference, it's the concentration of fire and positioning. I've lost against Yamas a fair bit.
Nice video keep up the good work
I hope you will do a collab with other TH-camrs
Now shikishima is available to pull i already have yamato with her camo does it worth it to pull ? or just skip it
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Has anyone ever run Into a glitch in the software, where on certain occasions (usually after switching targets) no matter where you aim you shell will either over fly the target out to something like maximum range or the opposite, fall 4-6 kilometers short.
I believe I know how that mechanic works now. You aim at a ship, and the cross hair is focused there. But if you aim at another ship, because if the short distance between them, it won't adjust. So when you fire at the new ship, the shells are more focused on the ship which the cross hairs have targeted. But because you are aiming at a different place form the ship the cross hair has targeted, the shots will land halfway between both marks.
@@Shadow-sq2yj yes...I certainly did notice that it usually happens when one target is “overlapping” another. That is to say...directly “behind” or in “front” of it from the players point of view. Such that a slight motion up or down will cause a great change in range between the targets and I think the computer is still tracking the original target.
Maybe it I gave it an extra second or two it would refresh.?...
@@WorshipinIdols I think you should make the cross hairs focus on the target before firing.
@@Shadow-sq2yj I do. I just think when there is a lot of clutter on the screen it may take a second. Or perhaps move the pointer completely away before bringing it back.
Let me guess. This is the Spinal Tap Tier 11 ship
And that Erie looked so cute. 😁
Am I the only one who assumed that this ship would have Shimakaze tworps? 😂
The torps are Shimakaze's.
I Test has work on Italian fuel smoke I am proud of this test, free to have a look Terry it’s been send in the General-Chat in your Discord Server few free to do a video on it if you like, Remember to say and thank me for testing this out when you are ready to do a video on it.
Yammy is a common ship in Asia Server. Still, My Yammy and Conqkek welcome this new target.
"common" is an understatement - I've had games with 6-8 of them across both teams. And Darings & Shimas, which you have absolutely no defence against in this thing, unless they're making questionable decisions.
You can only pray you're divisioned with a cruiser, gunboat DD or CV who will DD spot for incoming torps at T10
cruiser captains on ASIA seem to have a large aversion to hunting DDs... I find it's actually not that bad, since you're staying "behind the lines" most of the time in this thing anyway. You do get the occasional sneaky Shima, but I honestly had more problems with the Darings, they tend to burn me down :)
if just there was the mountain icon pop up when your shells will hit an island...
Shikishima has the same states as Yamato but with 510mm 21in Guns
The skikishima has 18inch amore belt
The Republique player is strongest member of my fleet.He can carry with all Line..
Giveaway when?
Now I want a british battlecruiser with a couple of 18 inch guns in tier 4.
Are you kidding me?
@@sukritbera5244 It is more historical than Shikishima.
@@shp27493 It is more historical? There was no such thing in the Royal Navy, whereas the Imperial Japanese Navy had actually designed the Shikishima, designated as the A-150 Class Battleship, or informally referred to as the Super-Yamato Class Battleship.
@@sukritbera5244 Actually,
The ships were built during WW1. Courageous class battlecruisers were completed and the third ship of this class "HMS Furious" was designed with two 18 inch guns on it. Both the guns and the ship were completely constructed, but the RN instead decided to convert Courageous class BCs into Carriers. So the guns were instead fitted on Monitors (coastal bombardment and protection ship). The monitors were scrapped after WW1 but the guns remained in testing up until 1947.
Another thing, Battlecruiser Furious also had torpedoes, two 21 inch torpedo launchers with 10 reloadable torps.
References:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courageous-class_battlecruiser
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Furious_(47)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_18-inch_Mk_I_naval_gun
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Clive-class_monitor
You'll find that most BBs from around WW1 had torps.
And monitors were weird boats... I guess if we got massive calibres in low tiers, we'd just end up overpening everything :)
Hi pro, I’m _Groot_ fleet HQVN1
I mean if I get this the only thing I am going to get is citadel right
so far, I've played without APCS, you'd normally get around 2-5 citadels per game. At extreme ranges, it's not guaranteed. The best fun is if someone doesn't pay attention, and you can get broadside shots at things at close range of about 8km.
@@FunandGameswithTerry well,hen i`m in a battleship i use ap shells but agian the 510mm guns in a 1 km i am going to use ap and use the presice aim so i can get a huge amount of damage
It’s a giant Gneisanau.
No it’s a A-150 blueprint ship : two ships where planned . If two are made there Are most powerfull battleship ever even greater than Iowa Bismarck etc
@@tankkiller_2666 bviouy it’s not an actual Gneisanau. I meant an “In-Game” Gneisanau.
Warship 797 was improved shinano could never have these big guns only 18.1 inch guns
"In 1946, Japan felt she would then begin rearming the seven original YAMATO class ships with six 20-inch guns"
www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/history/marshall/military/wwii/Japanese.navy/jap_yamoto_bat.txt
This is what I was referring to with my conspiracy theory :)
Good video like👍 Please give me this boat...
Get over 10k on some citadels. Yamamoto 12.
Same with Incomparable. This is an older review, not sure if they already had the 300% citadel bonus
I’d rather get musashi