@@articledon4880 it’s just the way overall how he talks about real world things that there seems to be a lack of critical thinking that comes with even just a grade school education. To be fair it could also just be that he’s been in the entertainment industry his whole adult life so there’s just a disconnect there. He didn’t even understand what toll booths are for and talked about being happy the workers don’t have those jobs anymore without considering the economic impact of a large group of people losing their jobs. But it could just be his elitism showing cause that makes him sound like one of those “learn to code” people
The fact that This is America was this much of a debate is wild. The message in the song was clear as day. How someone interprets something can sometimes be irrelevant to the point that is being made. This is an example.
This is why I hate TH-camrs because Joe is technically an employee of TH-cam and patreon because they give him a 1099 form at the beginning of each year. TH-camrs swear they bosses but they really employees. I bet if Joe lose his monetization on TH-cam he'll go back to doing shows in parks living room
Joe is not wrong. It's just that most ppl in the U.S. are "educated" to be cogs so that's all they know. An entrepreneurial based system is best for a free society for all. To understand the real U.S., not the BS they feed you, you'd have to know centuries of European history. What we have now is overpopulation, and a majority of that population in indefinite serfdom and peonage slavery. Again, the majority have zero idea what any of that means but will argue with the ppl who do because they were trained to defend the system.
Ish was basically trying to say if everyone has a million dollars, it’s not a million dollars anymore. There needs to be poor for rich to exist as is laborers for a company to thrive. The core point that ish cleverly addressed is that in his fear, that line of distinguishing class is expanding faster then the roles are able to fill. Rich are getting richer and the poor are getting more poor and that shows in the housing market. Inflation 😮
Joe missed the point that most companies need workers, laborers, staff. So if everybody is an entrepreneur then there will be people who are doing labor and simultaneously running their own business. That will never work.
Frfr. Look how many businesses Elon an mark cuban failed at before they finally succeeded. Ad they came from wealth but still failed I hate all theses TH-camrs acting like bosses. I bet If Joe get demonetized on TH-cam hell cut half his staff
@@EARiotyou should look up a little thing called “mass production” which allows you to even have the phone that you used to type that leftist bullshit
The first hour in eight minutes shows nothing but pure, masculine, energy, honesty, vulnerability, respect, care, and a loving friendship. This is rare. This is Raw. This is much needed in the world, especially amongst men, each one of them receive their constructive criticism because they knew it came from a respectful loving place.
Not for mediocre jobs. Ai will replace those jobs. People forget that 9-5 / school was a result of Henry ford needing more workers . Our great great grandfather were farmers, locksmiths, in the army, etc. these were entrepreneurial jobs and most importantly they were jobs which needed u to develop skills
AI taking over the world is in itself a small minded concept. It’s limited by hardware integration. For example, our entire planet’s manufacturing is built on machines requiring humans. If you think we can rebuild the entire global infrastructure for AI integration you are on drugs.
40 min in and I can verify that what ish is saying is correct. I studied health education and economics in college and read books about depopulation because we are consuming too many resources too fast and about the kids and birth control. The US is a big business
Ish is right. Joe example about being happy tech is taking jobs is wild. The bagging groceries use to be for young kids. Now the kids have nothing to do for money except crime. We're mining the earth for resources to create tech. The biggest problem is people don't have a skill anymore, thats why the stimulus checks was like gold to so many people. Not understanding how much it added to the deficit.
You just told everyone just exactly how uneducated you really are. Just because you read books made from the same people who run the education systems who all share the same depopulation ideology. You flaunt “booksmarts” but lack any other intelligence to have the foresight to see it’s a nefarious agenda being pushed. Earth is way more than sufficient to handle the current population. Elon Musk concurs.
@@oladeebiazazi4538 yep, same. Do you know that hospitals charge for using cups and ice and every single thing for a patient. I read that one hospital charge $600 for a cup of ice. It’s wicked out here and it’s actually depressing if you think about it too much as a regular civilian
Joe a legend for these patreons back to back this is the thing about being part of the brokies we still get that content shout out to the patronees y’all paid so that we could watch 🫡
It’s just a marketing strategy, there is no need to suck him off and call him a legend😂😂 wait till you found what Black Friday is 📈 Just a Q4 close out 📉
The thing about this argument is who says everyone’s going to be entrepreneurs? There would be people that are willing to do the hard work to manage a service and trade & people who will prefer to focus on tasks they can do to help said process.
Nah, not even. We listened to Public Enemy, X Clan, Brand Nubian, Poor Righteous Teachers, KRS One, etc... along with lighter faire. Ice and Ish are superficial, basic and empty in their taste.
I’m reading this comment while they were playing All The Stars and just seeing Ice and Ish both dancing like they never heard a better song to a Kendrick record is hilarious…. All to prove the wrong point 😂
Ice was wrong about the car assembly industry. It didn’t go away. They moved from Detroit where they would have to pay American citizens a livable wage and took their plants to places like Mexico where they can pay workers less. Yes automation helped with efficiency but they still need plant workers they just went where they can get them cheaper
I believe his point was to highlight the difference in how Detroit looked while the industry was there versus how it looked when it left. He also literally said they left because they had to pay them a livable wage.
This is America by Childish Gambino is by far not a trash song. Ice just doesn’t like listening to anything that does not promote black on black crime or ratchet women in the streets. 😂 it’s ok ice
On the college topic *Ish* is speaking to “over-saturation” of the market. Too many sellers, not enough buyers. There needs to be a good balance to stop the loss of jobs & product value.
I'm with Joe and Parks on the "This is America " debate. That shyt hard and still said so much without saying nothing. The way it wad put together,production, video was overall DOPE!!!. REGARDLESS IF IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DRAKE DISS...
Im am beyond glad that the segment with the nonbinary teacher turned into a convo about how every group compares themselves to black discrimination. That teacher pissed me off the second he equated his imaginary struggle to black ppl 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Ish is right. In order for capitalism to sustain, you need a strong labor force that is underpaid for their labor. So, to Ish’s point, if everyone in our country was an entrepreneur/business owner, we would not sustain in a capitalistic society.
That’s what sucks!!! To be a strong good worker and be underpaid where u can’t pay your bills but bust your ass.. it’s funny as I thought and am writing this ish just backed up what I’m saying by saying the same exact thing.. That’s why people hate the 9-5.. especially MINORITIES.. They call it working for the white man!!
The This Is America argument is wild to me. 1:56:58 I think that the song accompanies the video. The song is more meaningful with the video. That’s why the video came first then the song. They shouldn’t be spoken about separately.
I ain't gna lie, the JDP been dropping so much content, I'm actually behind in episodes. No other podcast gets my attention until I finish all the new content. No Brilliant Idiots, no MDWOG, no DrinkChamps. Only It Is What It Is and that's sports 😂
I mess with Ice, but as far as his aggressive takes on what he cares and doesn't care about, it reminds me of my 5 year old cousin running around, loud as hell, letting everyone know how much he doesn't care about your nerves.
I really need Ish to have his own segment or something. I loved this, I’m intrigued by new things and the mechanics behind how they work. I would listen to them break down credit card points cause I don’t know about them shits at all. 😊
To be watching this episode today Ish JoE Flip Parks even ice go get your book we need those stories and dont know when we wont hear from you again. RIP James Earl Jones 🕊🕊
For anyone using the air tags, while they are very useful, there is a video on TH-cam on how to remove the speaker from the AirTag and it still be operational. I have one like that on my motorcycle. So while you maybe able to see that an AirTag that’s not yours maybe on your car or something, if that speaker isn’t in it you may have trouble finding, stay safe.
If everyone was an entrepreneur, we would find ways to redefine what we mean when we use the word entrepreneur. If entrepreneurship was the new baseline, then those defying the norm would perhaps be the new entrepreneurs. Really this question is philosophical in nature and doesn't have a right or wrong answer.
The last 20 seconds of the 2hr 45min mark.. that’s art!💀😂💀😂 N once upon a time Joe would say some wild shit 💀.. make you look at your phone. No bleeps in the vicinity of the pod 💯
Ish is right though without workers the world stands still if everyone is a entrepreneur who’s driving the garbage truck, who’s doing the gardening, who’s catching the fish, who’s working on the ships with the heavy machinery, who ls building the skyscrapers? although we can agree Ai and machines can do a few jobs people are still needed to make the world go around efficiently the fact that if a machine breaks down a human is needed to fix it ends that whole debate
Joe’s lack of formal education shows a lot when he’s trying to have certain conversations. The entrepreneur talk is a shining example of that.
what did he say for example?
@@articledon4880finish watching.
@@articledon4880 it’s just the way overall how he talks about real world things that there seems to be a lack of critical thinking that comes with even just a grade school education. To be fair it could also just be that he’s been in the entertainment industry his whole adult life so there’s just a disconnect there. He didn’t even understand what toll booths are for and talked about being happy the workers don’t have those jobs anymore without considering the economic impact of a large group of people losing their jobs. But it could just be his elitism showing cause that makes him sound like one of those “learn to code” people
FACTSSSSS
@@darnell9806 I agree with everything you’re saying, why do you think people think learning how to code is the answer
The fact that This is America was this much of a debate is wild. The message in the song was clear as day. How someone interprets something can sometimes be irrelevant to the point that is being made. This is an example.
Thank You Parks for providing ISH with the wise counsel 🙏 regarding using his own voice as well as the rationale 👋👋👋
A few minutes later they all started using that voice !
Lol!
✌🏾✌🏽✌🏼💫
Agreed
Joe is so out of touch to not understand this concept. Ish is absolutely right.
This is why I hate TH-camrs because Joe is technically an employee of TH-cam and patreon because they give him a 1099 form at the beginning of each year. TH-camrs swear they bosses but they really employees. I bet if Joe lose his monetization on TH-cam he'll go back to doing shows in parks living room
@@tuubu9115 I totally agree.
That's the best way to have a debate .....
It's because he didn't go to college and take economics 1 and 2 lol
Joe is not wrong. It's just that most ppl in the U.S. are "educated" to be cogs so that's all they know. An entrepreneurial based system is best for a free society for all. To understand the real U.S., not the BS they feed you, you'd have to know centuries of European history. What we have now is overpopulation, and a majority of that population in indefinite serfdom and peonage slavery. Again, the majority have zero idea what any of that means but will argue with the ppl who do because they were trained to defend the system.
Ish was basically trying to say if everyone has a million dollars, it’s not a million dollars anymore. There needs to be poor for rich to exist as is laborers for a company to thrive.
The core point that ish cleverly addressed is that in his fear, that line of distinguishing class is expanding faster then the roles are able to fill. Rich are getting richer and the poor are getting more poor and that shows in the housing market. Inflation 😮
We need a Parks appreciation day on the JBP he’s probably one of the most logical thinkers that says shit that nobody’s thinking
No. And I hate his adlibs get off his d 🤡
I Agree.
Agreed
Parks definitely needs a spot on that couch. Move Ice to where parks be at 😂
@@Preston_TheDragon 🤝🏾 agreed fam
Joe missed the point that most companies need workers, laborers, staff. So if everybody is an entrepreneur then there will be people who are doing labor and simultaneously running their own business. That will never work.
Frfr. Look how many businesses Elon an mark cuban failed at before they finally succeeded. Ad they came from wealth but still failed I hate all theses TH-camrs acting like bosses. I bet If Joe get demonetized on TH-cam hell cut half his staff
True. Basic economics, bro is tweaking
He’s out of touch with America at large.
@@EARiotyou should look up a little thing called “mass production” which allows you to even have the phone that you used to type that leftist bullshit
You can contract work. As an entrepreneur you can contract your work so the only way doesn't have to be that way.
The first hour in eight minutes shows nothing but pure, masculine, energy, honesty, vulnerability, respect, care, and a loving friendship. This is rare. This is Raw. This is much needed in the world, especially amongst men, each one of them receive their constructive criticism because they knew it came from a respectful loving place.
Joe sounded crazy with that entrepreneur segment. No way companies would last without workers. Who will fix the a.i when it goes down 😂 Joe
ai isn't even really what people think it is. They think it is an actual artifact intelligence when it isn't. We haven't achieved singularity.
Right? Who will teach the kids at school?
Society absolutely needs employees.
Small thinking
Ugh shid I'm at work right damn now thinking bout entrepreneurship
@@SUPERZAYAN1realistically it's not. Service jobs are necessary
Not for mediocre jobs. Ai will replace those jobs. People forget that 9-5 / school was a result of Henry ford needing more workers . Our great great grandfather were farmers, locksmiths, in the army, etc. these were entrepreneurial jobs and most importantly they were jobs which needed u to develop skills
AI taking over the world is in itself a small minded concept. It’s limited by hardware integration.
For example, our entire planet’s manufacturing is built on machines requiring humans. If you think we can rebuild the entire global infrastructure for AI integration you are on drugs.
40 min in and I can verify that what ish is saying is correct. I studied health education and economics in college and read books about depopulation because we are consuming too many resources too fast and about the kids and birth control. The US is a big business
Ish is right. Joe example about being happy tech is taking jobs is wild. The bagging groceries use to be for young kids. Now the kids have nothing to do for money except crime. We're mining the earth for resources to create tech. The biggest problem is people don't have a skill anymore, thats why the stimulus checks was like gold to so many people. Not understanding how much it added to the deficit.
You just told everyone just exactly how uneducated you really are.
Just because you read books made from the same people who run the education systems who all share the same depopulation ideology.
You flaunt “booksmarts” but lack any other intelligence to have the foresight to see it’s a nefarious agenda being pushed. Earth is way more than sufficient to handle the current population. Elon Musk concurs.
That’s a faxx my cousin told me the same thing he’s in public health
@@oladeebiazazi4538 yep, same. Do you know that hospitals charge for using cups and ice and every single thing for a patient. I read that one hospital charge $600 for a cup of ice. It’s wicked out here and it’s actually depressing if you think about it too much as a regular civilian
@@Frija_the_goddess Wow, that’s insane!
Joe is the type to argue, im not talking about what im wrong about, im only talking about what im right about or slightly right about 😂
Facts
You guys gel so well. Joe used to come off too strong, now we see a softer side of him. More jokes all around. Keep it going y’all. Love to see it
Diff girl, no drugs, friends, older folks, learned his lesson, better lighting, more money, etc etc. Changes 🎶
I love how Ish is trying to explain a simple Economics concept and Joe can't even begin to understand it
Because it's bullshit that was passed down by very evil human beings. Stay on that side tho we good.
“This is America” was 🔥
I hate when Joe won’t let a topic go, they’ll move on to the next topic and he’ll keep finding ways to go back because he lost the argument 🤦🏿♂️
Wolves don’t mess with lions. “What do you call Joe”
A cheetah. 😂😂😂😂😂
"Bob Cat"🤭
Joe a legend for these patreons back to back this is the thing about being part of the brokies we still get that content shout out to the patronees y’all paid so that we could watch 🫡
You take those kneepads off?
5$ should not hurt that bad 😂
😂😂😂 not “y’all paid so we can watch”. We thank y’all!!!
It’s just a marketing strategy, there is no need to suck him off and call him a legend😂😂 wait till you found what Black Friday is 📈 Just a Q4 close out 📉
@@TREDESHAUN paying for some niggas Only fans is crazy lol 😂
Shouts to Joes book, been in my bookshelf since 06’. A lot of more current tracks are missing. PT.2??? IAN🗣️🗣️🗣️
My all time favorite rapper. And I've never heard of this. Is it a gem for real? I need to find one
Shout out to all JBP Fam 🎉🎉
Thank you Ish, in East Flatbush they are building homes for $1m or more. Very few people that currently live here can afford that.
The thing about this argument is who says everyone’s going to be entrepreneurs? There would be people that are willing to do the hard work to manage a service and trade & people who will prefer to focus on tasks they can do to help said process.
I like pods like this. ISH for MVP..
Y’all going to raise y’all’s blood pressure with the pseudo courtroom debates 😂 knew Joe wasn’t going to let the This Is America debate go
I really enjoy the pods where it’s just some real mature talk. Yeah, the jokes are cool but I’m always looking to learn as well.
Ice has the musical taste of a teenager. 😂
Like he just way too mature for some of these music takes
Nah, not even. We listened to Public Enemy, X Clan, Brand Nubian, Poor Righteous Teachers, KRS One, etc... along with lighter faire. Ice and Ish are superficial, basic and empty in their taste.
@@hopes_dreamswhaaaat!? 😐
I’m reading this comment while they were playing All The Stars and just seeing Ice and Ish both dancing like they never heard a better song to a Kendrick record is hilarious…. All to prove the wrong point 😂
Ice was wrong about the car assembly industry. It didn’t go away. They moved from Detroit where they would have to pay American citizens a livable wage and took their plants to places like Mexico where they can pay workers less. Yes automation helped with efficiency but they still need plant workers they just went where they can get them cheaper
I believe his point was to highlight the difference in how Detroit looked while the industry was there versus how it looked when it left. He also literally said they left because they had to pay them a livable wage.
His point was the negative impact it had on the city, not that the industry completely disappeared lol
ice energy been getting cornier as time goes by
Bro seriously he act like a female
He was ignorant asl on this one.
Flip my man yo! He definitely makes the pod fun! Bc when they hit him the awkward questions he get to stuttering and his facial expressions 🤣😂🤣😂
I've literally put all other Pods on pause cos of these drops, damn! We are eating good this Christmas.
This is America by Childish Gambino is by far not a trash song. Ice just doesn’t like listening to anything that does not promote black on black crime or ratchet women in the streets.
😂 it’s ok ice
This is America was & is fire lol . Wild takes
Nah that shit trash, I agree with ice
Ish ...i would 100% buy your book if you narrated it
Extremely mature pod. Enjoyed the financial talk; the segment on Drake/ Gambino; trans teachers and Ice's arguments 😂
On the college topic *Ish* is speaking to “over-saturation” of the market. Too many sellers, not enough buyers. There needs to be a good balance to stop the loss of jobs & product value.
SEE THIS IS WHY I NEED A MIC ON THIS PODCAST!!!
I'm with Joe and Parks on the "This is America " debate. That shyt hard and still said so much without saying nothing. The way it wad put together,production, video was overall DOPE!!!. REGARDLESS IF IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DRAKE DISS...
Im am beyond glad that the segment with the nonbinary teacher turned into a convo about how every group compares themselves to black discrimination. That teacher pissed me off the second he equated his imaginary struggle to black ppl 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Joe not thinking about all the "employees he sees every day. Fast food, factories, Amazon delivery, Starbucks, gas stations
Bro CTown takes me back to the early 90s back in Brooklyn 😂, Didn't realize that they still exist 🔥🔥
😂😂😂 why ish being so secretive when asked a question , when he the let me ask you a question guy lol
Ish is right. In order for capitalism to sustain, you need a strong labor force that is underpaid for their labor. So, to Ish’s point, if everyone in our country was an entrepreneur/business owner, we would not sustain in a capitalistic society.
Um no.
@@flame984 umm, yes.
That’s what sucks!!! To be a strong good worker and be underpaid where u can’t pay your bills but bust your ass.. it’s funny as I thought and am writing this ish just backed up what I’m saying by saying the same exact thing.. That’s why people hate the 9-5.. especially MINORITIES.. They call it working for the white man!!
It’s so funny when Ice get in his arguing bag
“IDC WHAT ISH DO!!!” Lmaoo
1:49:00 the funniest part flip be knowing what he doing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
When ice mad that shit be the funniest
Man that nigga said “ we got em”. He couldn’t let that slide lmaooo perfect timing
Ish not understanding the art in the lyrics of This Is America is wild!
I’m glad that you took my advice and got rid of the problem.
The This Is America argument is wild to me. 1:56:58 I think that the song accompanies the video. The song is more meaningful with the video. That’s why the video came first then the song. They shouldn’t be spoken about separately.
If everybody was an Entrepreneur we would go back to Bartering Products & Services. Trading..
Joe not understanding the entrepreneur convo was aggravating the hell out of me!!!
This Is America is a Boondocks episode. The song and video. If you get it you get it
Played This Is America on the way home from work.
I ain't gna lie, the JDP been dropping so much content, I'm actually behind in episodes. No other podcast gets my attention until I finish all the new content. No Brilliant Idiots, no MDWOG, no DrinkChamps. Only It Is What It Is and that's sports 😂
Ices finite resources take was spot on. Ish said what I was too. Ice just added to the point in a really important way. Great and necessary convo
Ish is wrong there is not scientist saying we have more water now and overpopulation is not about land space is about resources
Newark boys got Joe on the This is America topic
I mess with Ice, but as far as his aggressive takes on what he cares and doesn't care about, it reminds me of my 5 year old cousin running around, loud as hell, letting everyone know how much he doesn't care about your nerves.
Well, maybe he doesn’t care . LOL
The way joe says HOST is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂lol I love it
This is why I started to watch this podcast…
Overheard a conversation downtown Boston; a young women and man said "can't wait for public school graduation. We need more workers"
I’ve been getting to these pods back to back to back. Somebody doing they job lol
I really need Ish to have his own segment or something. I loved this, I’m intrigued by new things and the mechanics behind how they work.
I would listen to them break down credit card points cause I don’t know about them shits at all. 😊
Flip is funny. He rolls with whoever is making the better point. Whether it’s right or wrong. 🤷🏽♂️😆😆😆
Consistency over everything 💯
The i went to the precinct joke had me cracking up lol
Ish’s laugh will have you dying just because 😂
I’m 29 and moving from Jersey to Florida about four years ago I was mad confused at the whole separate bagger thing
This Is America was 🔥🔥🔥 though 😂
The ring question had me cracking up.
To be watching this episode today Ish JoE Flip Parks even ice go get your book we need those stories and dont know when we wont hear from you again. RIP James Earl Jones 🕊🕊
Scale. Everyone can’t make, package, ship, sell AND profit off their own box of cereal every morning. That takes a work force(s) on multiple levels.
This pod was good as hell. Shi had me talkin to my phone lmao
For anyone using the air tags, while they are very useful, there is a video on TH-cam on how to remove the speaker from the AirTag and it still be operational. I have one like that on my motorcycle. So while you maybe able to see that an AirTag that’s not yours maybe on your car or something, if that speaker isn’t in it you may have trouble finding, stay safe.
“So the running back is the one that run the ball right?” Lmaoooo 🤣 Thats a crazy question from a grown man
24:40 - Joe calling himself “ground level” with that water side view behind him is hilarious 🤣
This was always my argument with Dame’s “BOSS” conversation on the Breakfast Club. Everybody can’t be a boss, we need workers.
Travel point talk was elite
Got damn this was a good Pod fellas.
Love the mature podcast 👌🏽
Parks dead educated me on that voice subject
Overwhelmed with so many pod drops
Ice be emotional saying I don't care lol
If everyone was an entrepreneur, we would find ways to redefine what we mean when we use the word entrepreneur. If entrepreneurship was the new baseline, then those defying the norm would perhaps be the new entrepreneurs. Really this question is philosophical in nature and doesn't have a right or wrong answer.
Right👌🏾
Parks voice In the back ground sound like a character
The last 20 seconds of the 2hr 45min mark.. that’s art!💀😂💀😂
N once upon a time Joe would say some wild shit 💀.. make you look at your phone. No bleeps in the vicinity of the pod 💯
Lmfaoooo nah getting the f word off with the bleeps be killing me 2:15
That Donald Glover song was fire and impactful idk what these dudes talking about at all.
Thought y'all had bino on for a second 😭
Happy Anniversary Joe!!
The greatest show on earth. Hell, the only show on earth 💁🏽♂️ 0:26
Ish’s laugh between 6:10 & 6:20… single HAs into the mic that sound like lasers
"Not even if it's Victor's?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Parks is 1 of my favorite podcasters!
Ish for president.. dope conversation
The song goes with the video. That's why the lyrics sound like how they do. For visual pauses.
Dam! I want to be a fly 🪰on the wall when they bleep out the conversations 🤔🫢😂
Watching ice put that left blinker on is priceless
I’m glad the let ish get into that topic today!!
Arguing with Joe would literally beat on my nerves
Ice fully supports the negative aspect of rap music… I don’t agree with him at all.. you can’t push positivity and support negativity… he’s a cornball
Ish is right though without workers the world stands still if everyone is a entrepreneur who’s driving the garbage truck, who’s doing the gardening, who’s catching the fish, who’s working on the ships with the heavy machinery, who ls building the skyscrapers? although we can agree Ai and machines can do a few jobs people are still needed to make the world go around efficiently the fact that if a machine breaks down a human is needed to fix it ends that whole debate
Everybody can’t nor want to run a business. Some people are more content with just having a job
Ish should have Joe read his book.
LOL waiting for mega church RICO's was the most hilarious statement of this episode