Spyderco Paramilitary 2 vs Cold Steel Hold Out II
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- How will the Spyderco Paramilitary II (with the compression lock) hold up against our standard testing for shock and weight holding potential?
Watch this video to find out!
I like how unbiased you are. You guys ran your test, didn't insult the competition, didn't imply even ONCE anything negative. Hell, you only praised the design of the PM2.
Contrary to some forums and online chatter, you guys were upfront and honest about everything. It makes me really glad I bought one of my closest friends in the world a Cold Steel Espada XL. Him and my other friend beat the hell out of their knives and I'm glad they carry knives with your lock.
No doubt , Cold Steel is the strongest bar none. So impressed with what Cold Steel has been doing lately. You may have to move to fixed blades for comparisons haha. Would like to see the buck marksman 830, but have little doubt that Cold Steel will take it. My hats off to Andrew and Lynn
youve got one of the best jobs in the world man ;-)
piet jansen yeah being a fucking douche an getting payed for it.
Firstly let me say, I do like your knives, but you should let your product stand on its own merits instead of trying to belittle other successful knives.
Not exactly scientific with quantifiable results. more Marketing than Useful.
Did you hand finish your knife with the intent of doing this, or did you go to a outlet to get completely random units? Did you not engage the lock when flicking the PM2 open initially?
So many variables involved that make this more embarrassing for you than anything,
It certainly doesn't make me want to rush out and buy one of your knives.
As a great man said "Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is looking"
To people like me, who absolutely push their knives, I appreciate these tests. I'm not knocking people who strop their knives between opening Amazon packages, or those who fidget flick all day on their couch, but they definitely aren't the people I look to for advice on durable tools. People compare cars efficiency and performace, trucks towing, a tvs picture clarity etc.... So what has you so triggered over comparing knives strength?
Nutnfancy keeps breaking the world's strongest toughest knives without the use of specific dohickies designed to break blades with higher Rockwell hardness. I say get 3rd parties involved and see where that leads. Let the knives speak for themselves.
BudgetBugout Considering what he does to test the blades, it's not shocking at all. Hitting it on a rock is asking for trouble. He would still be one of the first people to defend Cold Steel.
BudgetBugout He broke two blades as far as I know. It was very abusive and they took a lot considering...I'd consider that a pass.
Also, hardness does not = toughness. Softer springy blades take impacts much better....too hard and they will chip or shatter easier.
Nutnfancy is also a goofball.
^^^
This is a scientifically objective test. I love nutnfancy, but never seen him hard test a Spyderco. His knife graveyard video is ridiculous. Smashing knives against rocks lol It's funny how, even when presented with objective evidence, people still can't admit Cold Steel is superior in at least some dimensions to other knives.
I've been checking out the comments and many people like the Para II ,,no problem with that, but I have had a lock fail on me at a job site doing landscaping working for the city and it was the formans / supervisor folding knife,,we had a one piece metal handle knife that was also being used and to get more done we used the BUCK 110 or a very good clone ( but I truly believe it was a110 buck ) well the 110 lock failed and cut me hand and off to the Emergency Room I went,, and my love for pocket knives suffered for sometime,,,,so lock strength is the most important part of ant folder to me,,,having said that now I still buy folder from various makers,,but Cold Steel is the only lock I have100% confidence in without babying the folding knife with extreme caution.I like my knives to use not to play with and flick open and close,,,and as a tool or weapon C.S. is hands down the best and strongest on the market IMHO.
Hey cold steel make sprint runs with different color knife handles G10 on black is getting old
***** yeah. even emerson now offers different colors. Thanks for listening. You took care of the steel, now take care of the rest.
*****
#coyotebrown #olivedrab #oxblood
***** It would be really cool to see a ti lite with the old school looking switchblade handle. At least from what I've seen there aren't any knives out there with that classy looking handle that aren't junk.
I agree with VERY NIIICE I've been wanting that for years.
Na.
I would like to see a hogue ex-01 or other button lock tested.
I really like this fella Mr Demko. He's doing some excellent work in the knife world..... I'll even forgive the 1911 EDC.... ;-).
I really like my Spyderco's though.....they are the only knives..along with Cold Steel..that I have NEVER had to send back for work or repair. Every BM POS I've paid the butterfly tax to own....has made the trip back to either get the auto or the omega springs replaced...costing me money, gas, and time....I'll never own another BM, outside of a good deal on a fixed blade, again...... But I'll have Cold Steel, Spyderco's, and Kershaw's from here on til I check out..... Maybe others too.....but def those.
Lol my cold steel knife broke my para is still as good as it was the day I got it.
Aw that sucks, what broke on it?
Andris Kompelien my cold steel tuff lite blade chipped out really bad, using it on larch wood in Wales in the forest, could not believe it I had it for about a year. Did not even use it that much, unfortunately I live in the uk so it was not worth all the hassle of sending it back, So I throw it away, I do videos on my channel but don't like to do fail videos to be honest, just brings the wrong crowd to watching my videos, I may get me a recon 1 but at the moment I must say I am disappointed.
Oh right, yeah huge chips can be a pain to get out. I've been looking a little at the Code 4 and Ultimate Hunter, but the Para 2 is a little higher on my wishlist right now :)
Andris Kompelien yes and if you ever tried sharpening a cold steel darn the steel is hard lol
fog360 Bushcraft my pm2 has not broke yet either and my cold steel did
Andrew Demko is the man! So classy talking about the PM2.
I still prefer the Para 2 because of the shape of the handle along with the extra jimping on the edge and spine sections. I know that it is much less likely to cause my hand to slip forward onto the blade, especially if I have it in a saber grip.
Very likely the compression wasn’t fully engaged in the spine whack test but between these two I’d still opt for the Para Military 2. Its lock while not quite as strong as the triad lock is much more practical for everyday use. It is head and shoulders above the triad lock in terms of smoothness and ease of use. Triad locks require a break-in period to “soften” the spring somewhat. To me, this is an annoying setback. Must I murder my thumb just to close a knife? The handle on the Para Military 2 is more thought-out with skeletonized steel liners and superior ergonomics. The PM2 is also lighter in weight, has a lifetime warranty (vs. Cold Steel’s 1-year warranty), and is made in America.
That is one strong Taiwanese knife! Kudos to Taiwan/China for making such a good blade.
Fun fact. 52% of all steel in the world is produced in China. So even if you were to buy an "All American Made" knife, that doesn't mean that the materials are produced here in America. It was just assembled here. Both Spyderco and Coldsteel pocket knives are great. But if it comes down to pure durability and longevity, I'd go with Coldsteel.
It "failed" first time but every time after that it was fine. Sounds like the lock wasn't fully engaged on the para the first time.
I like this guy, he seems very unpretentious which isn't what I typically expect from a person working for CSK.
I wish you could bring back XHP. It was such a lovely steel!
As I'm staring and holding my para2, although I love my mini-ak and have been wanting to get some more CS. The only thing that leans me away from them now days is that they are not all USA made :(... I can watch all your test videos but if I don't see USA made, part of me just isn't as happy.
***** Which two knives?
This was typed on a device using Chinese made microchips, you were happy with that though.
@@londiniumarmoury7037 Nah i'm not happy with that actually.
@@alfredcornflake5032 The American folding knife only crown are kind of hypocrites, 99% of them have draws full of cheap chinese made knife, forks and spoons, all use Chinese phones, and hardly any oft heir guns are American made, they mostly use European guns. I know tons of American only folder guys, and they own tons of Chinese swords too, and wear Chinese and European made clothes and shoes. but there folding knives have to be American for some reason.
@@londiniumarmoury7037 Nah bruh everything I have ever owned or will ever own has been proudly made in 'merica. lol, nah but for real I made this comment 5 years ago I could really give a shit less now. Still carrying my para2 though lol.
I love these tests, keep 'em coming! Andrew Demko has a great attitude.
As a Paramilitary 2 owner I'm pretty disappointed. I guess it stays relegated to light duty EDC use, if even that.
Maybe I'll sell it and put the cash into the 4Max fund...
Can you Test the Endura 4 pls :)
why would it fail the first test and not the second? Maybe you didn't lock it back all the way?
The real test would be if the knifes were firmly fixed to the pivot I two point to not allow it to swivel.
yeah andrew you have the strongest lock.
i own 8 of you (old series) and they are top.
but i never could close it well with one hand,im always scarry to get my fingers not out,and they are very stiff.
with a pm2/pm3 it works just top. for me to compare your knives are tanks,but the pm/p spydies more tac knives.
i didnt seen untill now one cs knife for exact my needs.i would wish you could build something up. fine+tac+ultrastrong+fullone hand use+fast opening&close
Fan of both company's.
You guys should test a microtech otf with your standards, interesting to see how the different folding mechanisms hold up to stress
Sea An otf isn't a folding mechanism at all. Hence the name behind the abbreviation, out the front. Lol :)
It would snap easiest of all
Man people are hilarious. I love all my Spyderco knives and I love these test video's. Cold Steel does in fact have the strongest lock on the market. That's just fact. Don't own any Cold Steel knives myself and that is because of a couple of reasons.
1. Don't like coated blades
2. don't like their business practice (ie. frivolous law suites and corporate bullying like with the whole recent San Mai BS)
If they ( Cold Steel) just let their products speak for itself I would definitely be more inclined to buy one of their knives.
+Neil The Knife Guy no one has been bullied over the San Mai thing, they are just doing what any company would and protecting their trademark. If someone started calling a knife the Manix 2 that is not Spyderco, they would step in... its just a normal practice.
The real reason that is controversial is because they trademarked a process that was around thousands of years before them.
But people can come up with their own names too, its like Notebook vs. Laptop. Same thing, just different names because of copyright.
+David Downs I stand by my reasons. If that came up with the process than I wouldn't mind as much. But they didn't.
Wow i just realized, judging by the butt of the knife in his pocket and the clip, our man Demko was using the ad15 prototype
Your tests seem very fair to me. How about the Hold Out II vs the Spyderco Manix 2 ?
Good videos keep them coming
I know this test is just testing other companies vs your basic standards, which is awesome! I think that in a knife I'm looking at, I don't plan on hanging off of it or using the back of the blade as a hammer. But that wasn't what this test was about.
I bought a new large Voyager to match my medium and the blade chipped immediately right out of the box with the first use. My only issue with CS is the quality of steel for the price.
+csknives advise you???? Is that code for you just got bent of and fucked up the butt???.... You rep CS just like a typical 1911 guy that can't admit his gear is bogus, looks great but when it's game time it fails, so let's make a video to trash the competition, I bet you hate Glocks too huh? I actually buy and use you product, but as of now I've decided I will never spend a dime to fund your stupid ass comparison videos.they are either nonsense tests or rigged.
Try a Buck 110 Folding Hunter!!!
My first thought is that the Spyderco's lock wasn't actually engaged when he did the first strike.
***** I'm not saying you didn't. That was just my first thought. And I own both knives. Actually I own a Hold Out I. I LOVE THAT KNIFE!!! I am a Spyderco fanboy but I love Cold Steel knives as well. For EDC my knives don't go through these torture tests. Although I always felt that the Paramilitary's compression lock appeared flimsy. They both function adequately for me with daily EDC use.
***** Also, although the Hold Out may VERY WELL BE the stronger knife, when I see the Hold Out spin 180 degrees during a strike test I wonder how much impact is not absorbed in the knife but rather dissipated in the spin itself.
I'll stick with my PM2. I don't use my knives as a pry-bar. But regardless, the triad lock is incredibly impressive.
@Semper Skeptical I'm trying to understand why people think that? is a Sig pointless? wouldn't you rather have a sig than a taurus? especially if the sig was cheaper?
@Semper Skeptical I just left my cold steels half open or so for a day or so they've been good to go for me. Really helps with that initial stiffness. Then just using the knife after that and the action will keep getting better. It'll never be a middle finger flickable knife like an axis lock for sure though.
Congrats... Your PM2 is pretty much a slip joint...
LOL! Andrew Demko: “what’s this thing?” This was obviously Lyns idea and not Andrew’s!
Why didn't you check the tightness of the bolt with the Spyderco like you did with the cs after every strike?
are you all in Cali or Arizona?
I have found on the para 2 if you do a good hit on the back of the knifes blade it fails which is scary because I like fingers not a fan of the compression lock and I do not understand spyderco makes.an amazing ball bearing lock, bolt lock and back lock
My heart was beating hard when you tested the paramilitary 2. I expected more from it. But aren't we are talking about 2 very different locking methods? Isn't the Spyderco Paramilitary pretty much a reverse liner lock with a notch taken out the tang that the liner snaps into? The design is cool but it will allow for play and flex under that kind of duress and doesn't have the strength to compete with a Tri-Ad mechanism which seems to be one of the strongest out there. (I own two Espada XLs). I can't see most liner locks standing up to the Tri-Ad. Now what would be interesting to see is a normal back lock tested with the Tri-Ad, say the Spyderco Chaparral. I really would like to see the Holdout 'holdup' against a Sebenza too :) Come one man, do the Sebenza!
First and foremost, I understand fully that this test was designed only to test locking mechanism durability. As far as durability goes, the Tri-Ad is one of, if not the, strongest in the industry.
With that said, I still passed on the Cold Steel brand for the PM2 on a recent purchase. It came down to a combination of factors instead of perceived superiority in any one category. While the tri-ad locking feature is strong, I feel it sacrifices in convenience. I like to open and close my knives one handed and I can't do that with the tri-ad lock. Second, and probably less important, I prefer the Spyderco unique aesthetics. Not that CS knives are ugly, they just seem to have a common appearance. The final selling point for me was the PM2 being US made. Even tho I know this company outsources, I do like to support an American company when possible, especially when they make a quality product. If I were a knife collector of any kind (as opposed to a guy who just buys one good EDC and carries it til lost, it fails, or I'm just wanting something else) I would undoubtedly own CS products. I feel they make a great product that is affordable and that is certainly among the elite of mass production companies.
Final note, these "My brand vs your brand" comment fights are really stupid. The companies themselves don't even have any animosity amongst each other and actually recognize and willfully admit that their competitor makes great products. I work for a major company that makes small gas engine products and regularly meet with, and have great friends in, employees of our competitors.
Will be a test Cold Steel Ti-Lite vs knife another firm (liner lock) ?)
you guys are crazy. I know there is no stronger lock on the market. there is no reason to prove it more then what you have done. I like my cold steel knives. I like others too. I love my blades guys! interesting stuff you guys do, but I doubt I would ever be in a situation to make my pm2 fail like that. rock on fellas!
dandandatreeman Would you bet your fingers on it?
How about testing the Sog Vulcan, it's a version of the axis lock.
This is why I don't get why all those other knife guys are all about ZT, Benchmade, Spyderco etc. And not Cold steel.
Why didnt we see an emerson test
I don't use my PM2's as pry bar or wedge.
Lockback/Triad are stronger but, how much spine strength do you need for a pocket knife ?
How about you do some slicing tests ?
Kind of cool to know but life got on just fine prior to the triad lock. Hell, who would need to push there knife to that extreme, and by the way " i am a cold steel fan"". Own many but yet not a fan of the testing hype!!! We get it!! Strongest lock !! And now cts steel but that aint eveything.
I love cold steel knives !!!!!!
A $150 knife broken by 135lbs. Hell, you dont even get a pound per dollar out of that p.o.s. Glad i carry a recon 1.
I hope that prototype is a US production AD-10!
I'd also like a US made 4" stiletto with a tri-ad similar to the one Andrew posted on his instagram a while back.
Will be waiting to buy one of each. :D
I beleive it would fail if new . My experience with spyderco knives is they seem to have a poor quality control and need to step it up. The knives have ruff engagement when new and they claim that usage improves performance . That should NOT be a way a company thinks . I agree with what you say . it may pass 99% but the first fail could be catastrophic
cold steel you need to compare the coldsteel sage 3 against a cold steel knife because people are saying it's a stronger long
Pls Test the Spyderco Endura FRN VG10, Very Common Knife. Pls Test it pls :)
Pls do an Endura 4 vs ....
Please test a smf strider.
Cold Steel you rock! please test Sebenza, Strider, Rick hinderer knives too
Love my cold steel 52 pieces and Counting
The prototype looks like an ad15 maybe?
I think the Spyderco ATR has a framelock compression lock.
Never had an edge role on me before. my Cold Steel American Lawman did, so severe that I cant fix it my self. The blade is bent from about the middle of the blade and down to the edge. Might be a production error, but not impressed. Im not puting off Cold Steel yet, if I find another knife I like Ill buy it, but Im sceptical.
Great video. Audio needs work. Get some thing that records a voice better.
This is sure to produce a lot of butthurt Spyderco fans.
looks like I'll be hanging up the para 2 for awhile... I might end up getting that hold out such a cool looking knife.
great video, cold steel are the only knifes I buy. well, I have a few moras as back-up knifes.
thanks
Back to the drawing board for the Spyderco....
im still getting a spyderco, and next year ill probably get a Cold Steel
In my opinion very UN classy to do these test. Two different animals. Spyderco a silky smooth tough under normal circumstances knife. I own a small hold out and to be honest the overbuilt lock sucks. Not a fun knife to open and close and also the pins through the handle developed slop and rattle just from normal use. If I am using a knife in a rough manner I do the right thing and carry a fixed blade.
"I only have one to really test here" *has two*.
***** do cutting tests, like through sandpaper, or tough rope, or tape, or paracord, or receipt paper, or something? maybe some real *use oriented* tests instead of just these unrealistic never-would-happen-in-average-use tests? please? if I'm going to get into a problem in a life-and-death situation, i'm going to want something that'll cut *well* for long periods of time without needing resharpening.
***** yes it would, but my Vic Spartan has never closed on my fingers, and it doesn't have a lock. and my opinel no9 carbone model has also never closed on my fingers, even with the lock disengaged, and nothing but friction holding it open. both cut even the thinnest of paper with ease. if one knows how to use a knife, then even something like your kudu should be sufficient for most purposes, despite its lack of triad lock.
***** nobody ever said anything about "how to use a knife" in this comment thread till you. I'm not asking for instructions, I'm asking for whether this knife will hold up well against competition in the tasks that most people will actually use them for. if you're only marketing this as a "knife for 'what if'" then i'd expect a fixed blade. not a folder which could accidentally only deploy half-way, and wind up closing on one's fingers no matter how strong the lock.
I'm asking for tests that will represent how your knives stand up to your claim "world's... ...sharpest knives", and if the blade geometry actually permits much real-world, non- hacking, chopping, and throwing use. as most people who buy your knife will not wind up using it in life-or-death situations, it might make sense to show how your knives will stand up for your claims, and how they will stand up against the offerings of others.
***** I was not asking for any video on how to use a knife. you brought that up, so don't give me that sarcastic smile after quoting something that has nothing to do with what you brought up unnecessarily. I was making the point that for anyone who knows how to use a knife, lock strength has a lot less to do with the usefulness of a knife than you make it out to have, while you brought up that the video is not about how to use a knife. are your knives for those who are uneducated in knife use? I'm saying your company claims to have the sharpest knives on earth, and I'm calling you out like you call out everyone else on their "hard use" knives. you have extremely unprofessional advertising practices, and you're childish in your commenting on youtube. I've been looking for a reason to like your company beyond the lock strength, and you've just lost a would be customer. I hope you understand that your business practice is dispelling real knife enthusiasts and is drawing in the sort of person who wants a knife as a weapon, not a tool. you're thinking you've won the argument because you made me write an essay? cool. troll. you're forgetting, customers are what make a company, and I will not be helping to progress your company.
Axis lock vs tri-ad
Well that spine wack test was a bit weird, woulda been nice to see ya keep goin before ya went to overstrikes, but o well.. It's obvious that coldsteel wins but I'm just curious about the deal with the lock "setting" on the spyderco, but alas, you guys work for coldsteel, not spyderco ;) Thanks for finally putting it to the test! And I still love my PM 2 ;)
Cold Steel for life ❤️
If i may i would love to compare sales between the two. I think should be added to the comparison.
We all know the Triad lock is a beautiful bit of engineering. But I would prefer the test be conducted by someone who can tell whether he's done something 5 times or 6! On the overstrike test, he subjects the PM2 to 6 strikes but only counts to 5. If he can't even count to 6, how am I supposed to trust ANYTHING this guy says or does?
Also, (on the first test) I don't think he was tightening the bolt as tightly for the Holdout as he was for the PM2.
I'd go out and get myself a Benchmade because of their great service they provide.
Definitely. They're the best in that regard, as folding knives go. I prefer their warranty/customer service programs to that of Esee. Not many (if any) other companies will replace the blade in your folder for a reasonable price.
Send me the Hold Out 2. I can't afford it ,but I'm hard on knives and it will be an honest hard use test.
Everybody gets mad at CS b/c there's really no reason to buy any other knife besides aesthetics and brand loyalty. Still waiting on something with one hand closing capabilities though.
PissedOff WhiteGuy Do you mean things like lifetime warranty, ergonomics, comfort, ease of deployment/closing, blade steel, US made (for many people), etc. aren't reasons to buy a knife, but the fact that you can bang a CS with tri-ad on a rock without it closing, or whatever, is? I buy knives, and make my decision on what I buy, to use as an actual knife. To have a knife hold up to a situation I'd never expose it to, or never have any reason to expose it to, is pretty low on the list of important qualities for me.
Strong lock only needed when you using your knive backward
My Rajah 2 and my sebenza 21 large is to different things!
Like i said. I am a fan. Have had more cold steel knives than i can count. Still do. So i guess that says more than anything
Knives are not toys for fidgetting with. I need the knife to perform when it's time to perform. Cold Steel performs.
Been wanting to get a Para 2 for some time now....not anymore.. That was pathetic.
@MGladwell 4 years later and the PM2 is still a weak knife for light duty applications.
A little disappointed. Honestly thought that Para II would've done better than it did.
I've had 3 knives close on me through normal EDC use, a Chris Reeve Mnandi and two different Emerson knives. I have some loss of sensation in my right index finger do to the Emerson closing on my finger in normal use.
No matter how a knife is marketed, the quality control and the actual engineering of the knife should be that that will never happen.
I have a pretty large knife collection, so maybe it's just inevitable that this will happen, but I have since sold all my Emersons, I sent in the Mnandi for repair, CR replaced it, I still kept that one, I just treat it like a slip joint.
I have loads of Custom knives that cost upwards of $1,000, and I still carry and use them, but none inspire the confidence as my Cold Steel knives do.
***** A folding knife is designed to fold. I will be the first to give props to Cold Steel for producing an extremely strong knife lock. That said, The Paramilitary 2 has a smoother opening and closing action and the company has some of the best heat treatments and ergonomics in the industry. I would EASILY still choose the Para 2 over the CS knife from this comparison for my everyday blade, and I like the knives from both brands. This type of testing is simply not representative of what a user should expect from a knife. Spine whacking makes literally no sense as a test for a folding knife because it is being subjected to something that NO folding knife should be subjected to to begin with. Engineering a knife to withstand a spine whacking test is like baking a cake to take to a pie making competition. It's irrelevant.
***** unfortunately, liner locks and improved variants are still pretty limited in lock strength....that said, they are perfectly fine for most regular use.
dtester To be fair to the design, the Compression Lock is as much a variant of the Axis Lock by Benchmade as it is a variant of the Liner Lock. It interfaces with the blade tang the same way the Axis Lock does, except instead of using tiny Omega springs it uses a lock bar that sits into a recess. It's pretty much a hybrid of the two lock designs. I'd also say that it's not perfectly fine for MOST regular use, but for ALL regular use. Any type of use that you could ask a folding knife to reasonably handle, the Para II will handle. Does a Cold Steel have a stronger lock? Sure, but as an owner of knives from both brands I will say that the Compression lock functions much more smoothly and ergonomically. Also, many Cold Steel knives use very thin hollow grinds and the blade will usually give out before the lock does. The knives are not infallible. The Para 2 has a fine point but it also has a pretty thick blade stock and is flat ground. Aside from some tip damage here and there, I really haven't seen anybody complain about breakage on a Para 2. Honestly, if the Para 2 won't handle it, you need a fixed blade. The Tri-Ad lock is awesome, but it alone doesn't make a comparison between a Cold Steel knife and a Para 2 a win for the Cold Steel. It just makes it a stronger lock. Every other variable between the two knives gets ignored when all you focus on is lock strength.
***** Yeah, I've studied the internals of these locks, so I know how they work. Thanks anyway. (the rest of your post was really huge, so I'm not really going to bother with it, sorry)
My cold steel broke within the first six months and my pm2 that I've had for two years is still as good as it was when I got it
And I have used both equally
Philip Monroe well it did break so I'm going by my experience
Tri-ad lock is just insanity. I dont know how to destroy it....
HAHA thanks guys! I proudly carry my CS knife with me. ^^
It held out after the first fail. Should have kept going
Maybe you guys should try and make some of your knives 100% in the USA and I will buy a couple such as AK-47 and Recon1. It's about time you upgraded your steel. I'll carry a KA-BAR utility/fighter for EDC before I carry a folder that says Taiwan on it!!! I'll GLADLY PAY THE EXTRA MONEY KNOWING IT'S 100% MADE IN USA
+csknives Yes, I know it's CTS XHP. And I know you guys have the "4-Max" and 'Ranch Boss" Made here in the USA. I also know most people are not going to buy the Ranch Boss, but the 4-Max is definitely a knife I would buy, unfortunately it is currently on Backorder.... I wonder why. I can only assume you guys cant quite meet the supply for the demand of a 100% USA made Tri-Ad folder! Anyways I wont be buying Cold Steel knives until I see my favorite design the CS AK-47 Made 100% in the USA. I have a friend that has an old Recon Tanto fixed blade in Carbon-V steel that says Made in USA, so I know you guys can do it.
This is the beauty of video, editing & retakes. They would never show you if one of their knives failed. Let's start doing all these live & see what happens.
Thanks for not wearing skinny jeans. You rock!
That's all they got is a great back lock with shit names and bad designs that I don't care for I've never had any knife fail on me
Pm2 is such a brilliant knife 🔪 👏
Benchmade contego vs cold steel recon 1
This is the third of these videos I have seen and it seems like they take it a little easier on there knives. Like they are not clamping down their knives as tight.
Are cold steel knives made in China?
Too bad the holdout 2 is made out of AUS 8 steel and is made in Taiwan.
CTS XHP Carpenter Steel is the best 👌
You guys win in lock strength, but in terms on ease of use, you guys lose. You're tri-ad lock can withstand those tests because it's basically a lock back with an insanely strong spring. Makes your knives strong, but hard to close. You need the thumbs of Hercules to disengage your tri-ad lock. A david boye detent on the lockbar would help. Keep up the good work!
I guess I'm Hercules since I have no problem releasing the triad locks on my CS knives. The compression lock on my Paramilitary (1st gen) is somewhat sticky but I still like the knife.
Jabbawokeez4 I can open and close every single one of my cold steel knives one handed, regardless of which hand it is. You're just weak man, sorry.
Razz Rocher Yeah I do have weak hands, but that just means the lock is unfriendly to women or younger users, which goes to my point of sacrificing ease-of-use for strength
No one is forcing anyone to buy the knives though. And if you buy a knife without ever actually holding it or testing how it feels and operates then that's your fault, not theirs. Could the locks be made a bit smoother? Sure, but if you're going to buy a tool as important as a knife, you should first get a feel for it.
Than you're saying that knives should NEVER be bought online without handling it in real life first. Say that to all the different websites such as Blade HQ, The Knife Connection, etc. and see if they agree.
I don't use my knife for holding some thing , try cutting steel test better ^_^
I have seen DPX H.E.S.T. did. Very awesom interwive , very use full knife. So I brought a H.E.A.T. one. Ha ha ^_^
Once again...Cold Steel rules!
+Joel Brothers Said noone ever. Spyderco eats this knive alive
+Urban Stare
Prove it.
+Joel Brothers Buy yourself a PM2, take your Cold Steel out and cut in in half with Spyderco. Theres your proof
+Urban Stare
Let's see it. Shoot a video and post it here. Talk is cheap.
so what your'e saying is that cts-xhp is worse than s30v lol fanboying to its finest
Spyderco fanboys coping harder than Cold Steel fanboys. "I prefer pm2 because it's made in the USA". Well then get ready to throw out most of the things in your house! 😂