@michaelpeck1346 I'm a WVU fan, so I have no bias either way. Your comment in itself shows you haven't been paying attention to the other teams in the league. Gus is building a powerhouse. Their incoming recruiting class is in the top 25, they are one of the fastest growing institutions in the nation, and are located in the middle of FL, one of the best recruiting hubs in the nation. Everyone in the Big 12 needs to stop looking at UCF like they are still a G5 school.
Can’t wait for the season. All these heated comments just fuel the fire. Anyone saying that Utah is overconfident has no idea how this program is run. This team has its eyes set on the CFP, but they aren’t taking any game for granted.
I'm looking forward to see Utah play in the Big 12. They are a consistently good, tough football team. I hope the Cowboys beat them. But I expect it to be a good game. I haven't been able to see how good Cam Rising is due to his injuries. But I know the guy can play. Should be an exciting season of Big 12 football.
I really dislike the idea of 2 super conferences but it seems to be what is coming, pushed by the SEC and BIG 10. Seems pretty stupid to hate Utah just because they are trying to be prepared for that possibilty. It's like trying to blame Noah for the flood.
There will be three conferences period. People that hate the B12 are fantasizing and getting hard-ons for the demise of the B12. We ain’t going nowhere but UP. If you want to find out who has the football conference, tell the Big10 and SEC to stop playing those cupcake non conference football teams and start scheduling B12 teams instead, so we can put the cheap talk to rest.
It's fine for UofU and Whittingham to prepare for a P2 quietly and behind the scenes, but why state that publicly? UofU should be a leader of the conference and should be helping the charge to build a P3. UofU has always been trying to tag along and siphon off the greatness of other schools in the league. Now that they are one of the leaders, they don't like having to carry dead weight like other leaders have to do. It's ME, ME ME!!! attitude. That's why they're so hated.
@slten12 naaa, Kyle Whittingham can troll with the best of them. Particularly knowing how his harmless comment over a year ago tipped so many people over.
Honestly he didn't say anything bad, and it's not like he's insinuating that they'll leave all of the Big 12 behind without any of the others schools moving up too. He's simply saying what most people see coming. It won't be a league with just two conferences though based on what we've seen with actual proposals and the conferences won't change much. It's going to be one major entitity just for football that will likely try to bring the regional feel back to the sport. There's simply no way that the Big Ten and SEC would want to govern 24-30 teams, it's difficult enough with their current numbers.
Nothing is for certain with regard to the conferences. There is so much more uncertainty and negative implications of recent changes. That is why Jim Harbaugh and Nick Saban left College Football last year. There is certainly a bubble in College Football TV Contracts. Schools left out of conferences will be able to offer their games same as MLB and NBA teams are able to offer their games individually on internet apps if facing lower TV income. So the TV Contract Income part of this atmosphere will change as it only longer exists in Football.
Well the Big 12 wanted Utah. Watch the Utes own the league this year. I'll laugh my ass off if its the Utes that give legitimacy to the Bread Crumb Conference.
Hold on, Utah is a little over a decade removed from the Mountain West, you ARE one of the bread crumb schools. What, do you think it's a coincidence that Utah ended up in the Big 12 themselves?
Utah thought that their association with bigger schools made them special. Then the Big Ten and SEC not only passed over the four corner schools, they didn't even give those schools a slight glance. After all of the talk about the Big 12 being a truck stop conference, I'm wondering when the four corner fanbases are going to figure out that they were the truck stop states of the Pac-12. Utah is right where they belong, and they're far down the pecking order to get poached by the top 2 leagues.
@@adellelo956 oh yeah, is that why they continuously changed leagues and are still trying to change? To be fair everyone is but Utah fans really do underestimate how little people are familiar with them outside of the West Coast.
@@adellelo956 Hell, you all seem to forget that Utah wasn't even the Pac-12's first choice, if the Pac-12 could've had their way then Texas, Texas A&M, Tech, Oklahoma and OK State would've joined the league in 2010 after Colorado then Utah would still be in the Mountain West. But somehow you all can't seem to understand that being good doesn't mean much if you aren't a brand that people want to see.
Late comment I know but I'm gonna say this that if this ever happens I'll slowly loose interest in college football and be more into college basketball because college basketball ain't gonna loose any of their conferences anytime soon
I don't think a 2 conference solution will be allowed without triggering anti-trust laws. There needs to be a minimum of 3. You are probably looking at 3 leagues of 24 teams. The Fox League, ESPN League, CBS League and what's left of the G5 becoming the G2 with 30-36 teams each, the Amazon League and Apple League.
Three conferences of 24 works… B1G adds: Stanford/ Arizona/ Utah/ Notre Dame/ Clemson/ Miami SEC adds: Arizona State/ Colorado/ Kansas/ Virginia/ North Carolina/ Duke/ NC State/ Florida State XII adds: Washington State/ Oregon State/ California/ San Diego State/ Memphis/ Boston College/ Syracuse/ UConn/ Pitt/ Louisville/ Wake Forest/ Georgia Tech/ USF
@@tarheel7406 The problem with that assessment is the Big 10 and SEC are composed of Teir 1 AND Tier 3 teams. The Big 12 is a better league top to bottom.
Utah is definitely going to take the place of a team who thinks they’re currently comfy in what we all know will become the only two real conferences. Can point a half dozen right away.
You say that because you think the two super conferences will be the expanded SEC and B1G. But teams like Vanderbilt, Rutgers, Illinois, and the rest of the dead weight will not be in the new league. The best teams from the SEC, B1G, ACC, and BXII will be splitting off to form something new. If any of the P5 continues on as football conferences it will be with leftovers and G5 backfill.
See. This is why we hate Utah. Moving to 2 super conferences he said while we all are not in one of them. The implication is, Utah is using the Big12 as a truck stop on its way up the ladder. I hope this Utah team wins 5 games or less and never sniffs a Big12 Championship.
As a Utes fan, you’re very fortunate to have a team like Utah in your conference, they only improve it, so keep crying over them. All I hear from you big 12 fans about Utah is nothing but negativity, and I really hope the Utes leave the big 12 as soon as they possibly can.
You are clearly looking to be offended. The B1G and SEC are positioning themselves to rule the while sport. Every team wants to position themselves to be in the "minor league NFL" that college football is clearly becoming. Every team is leveraging position right now to secure a future. If you don't see that, you aren't paying attention
@@Blasthole I think you’re not paying attention. I don’t think the SEC has designs on adding teams in Florida, SC, TX, or OK. I don’t think the Big10 is adding a teams that are not AAU. So I’m not seeing how the sec and Big10 are getting to 40 let alone 48. Utah and Kansas are uniquely positioned moving forward but the rest are in a snookered situation. Stuck, no options. SEC goal is to maximize revenue by having huge football all day Saturday. UNC it’s 52k seat stadium and less than a million viewers per week don’t meet the SEC standard. KS, same. Utah, same and to far. So if the SEC takes FSU, they are not going for UNC. And I don’t see why the Big10 would want what the SEC is passing on. Clemson? Who knows. Basically, we all probably agree those 2 FSU and Clem could figure it out with someone. The rest of us, no. You’re in the Big12 now and they had the chance to take any of you and they passed. Become Clemson. Become Alabama. This is the only way up.
@@steveb.2326 CatsClaw isn't one of the leaders of the conference who should be talking up the Big 12 and trying to lead the charge to a viable P3 instead of publicly stating that we don't think this subpar league, that we're too good for, is going to be around very long.
BTW: this is the same Utah team that lost 6 games last year. Lose your QB again and what you demonstrated last year is your recruiting is poor and that’s just a fact. Utah is a good if not great school. But the unnecessary arrogance is an embarrassment to the entire institution. Terribly sad.
You obviously didn't follow the team that closely last year, and that's okay. But to say we were just out a QB is a sever unserstatement. But yet we still found a way to hang with National title contender Washington, and beat SC and Caleb Williams with our 3rd string QB.
That UCF/Utah game in Orlando on Black Friday could easily become the most important Big 12 game of the regular season.
That’s going to require UCF to make a pretty big jump.
@michaelpeck1346 I'm a WVU fan, so I have no bias either way. Your comment in itself shows you haven't been paying attention to the other teams in the league. Gus is building a powerhouse. Their incoming recruiting class is in the top 25, they are one of the fastest growing institutions in the nation, and are located in the middle of FL, one of the best recruiting hubs in the nation. Everyone in the Big 12 needs to stop looking at UCF like they are still a G5 school.
I will be traveling there with a couple Ute buddies.
ucf and delusions of grandeur. name a more classic combo.
@@chucky0034 I hope you have a great trip to UCF. Black Friday is usually amazing weather!
Can’t wait for the season. All these heated comments just fuel the fire. Anyone saying that Utah is overconfident has no idea how this program is run. This team has its eyes set on the CFP, but they aren’t taking any game for granted.
I'm looking forward to see Utah play in the Big 12. They are a consistently good, tough football team. I hope the Cowboys beat them. But I expect it to be a good game. I haven't been able to see how good Cam Rising is due to his injuries. But I know the guy can play. Should be an exciting season of Big 12 football.
I am one of a bunch of Ute fans traveling to Stillwater. Should be a lot of fun.
Kyle needs an ASMR channel
@@bigvicut He’s the Bob Ross of college football coaches.
Excellent job with the interview Smoak.
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Go Utes!
Utah got Caleb Lohner, to play football... I'd forgotten, already.
I'll bet he gets drafted.
I really dislike the idea of 2 super conferences but it seems to be what is coming, pushed by the SEC and BIG 10. Seems pretty stupid to hate Utah just because they are trying to be prepared for that possibilty. It's like trying to blame Noah for the flood.
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There will be three conferences period. People that hate the B12 are fantasizing and getting hard-ons for the demise of the B12. We ain’t going nowhere but UP. If you want to find out who has the football conference, tell the Big10 and SEC to stop playing those cupcake non conference football teams and start scheduling B12 teams instead, so we can put the cheap talk to rest.
Every year we beat the SEC bottom feeders in bowl games, it’s getting boring. 😂
It's fine for UofU and Whittingham to prepare for a P2 quietly and behind the scenes, but why state that publicly?
UofU should be a leader of the conference and should be helping the charge to build a P3. UofU has always been trying to tag along and siphon off the greatness of other schools in the league. Now that they are one of the leaders, they don't like having to carry dead weight like other leaders have to do. It's ME, ME ME!!! attitude. That's why they're so hated.
@slten12 naaa, Kyle Whittingham can troll with the best of them. Particularly knowing how his harmless comment over a year ago tipped so many people over.
Honestly he didn't say anything bad, and it's not like he's insinuating that they'll leave all of the Big 12 behind without any of the others schools moving up too. He's simply saying what most people see coming. It won't be a league with just two conferences though based on what we've seen with actual proposals and the conferences won't change much. It's going to be one major entitity just for football that will likely try to bring the regional feel back to the sport. There's simply no way that the Big Ten and SEC would want to govern 24-30 teams, it's difficult enough with their current numbers.
Adapt or die. Utes just trying to position themselves for that inevitable change.
The first few times I heard of Whittingham, I thought people were referring to former Stanford/Notre Dame/ Washington head coach Tyrone Willingham...
....and the point?
The 2 conference prediction is assuming that viewership and recruiting will stay exactly the same over time as playoffs are accessible to everyone.
Go Utes!!
That seems like a huge bomb you guys just glossed over without any follow up questions, the rest of the interview was pretty good though
Nothing is for certain with regard to the conferences. There is so much more uncertainty and negative implications of recent changes. That is why Jim Harbaugh and Nick Saban left College Football last year. There is certainly a bubble in College Football TV Contracts. Schools left out of conferences will be able to offer their games same as MLB and NBA teams are able to offer their games individually on internet apps if facing lower TV income. So the TV Contract Income part of this atmosphere will change as it only longer exists in Football.
Well the Big 12 wanted Utah. Watch the Utes own the league this year. I'll laugh my ass off if its the Utes that give legitimacy to the Bread Crumb Conference.
Hold on, Utah is a little over a decade removed from the Mountain West, you ARE one of the bread crumb schools. What, do you think it's a coincidence that Utah ended up in the Big 12 themselves?
Utah thought that their association with bigger schools made them special. Then the Big Ten and SEC not only passed over the four corner schools, they didn't even give those schools a slight glance. After all of the talk about the Big 12 being a truck stop conference, I'm wondering when the four corner fanbases are going to figure out that they were the truck stop states of the Pac-12. Utah is right where they belong, and they're far down the pecking order to get poached by the top 2 leagues.
@@josephmelendez8370any league Utah plays in is a top league. That program is legitimate enough to not need to clout chase, they are the clout.
@@adellelo956 oh yeah, is that why they continuously changed leagues and are still trying to change? To be fair everyone is but Utah fans really do underestimate how little people are familiar with them outside of the West Coast.
@@adellelo956 Hell, you all seem to forget that Utah wasn't even the Pac-12's first choice, if the Pac-12 could've had their way then Texas, Texas A&M, Tech, Oklahoma and OK State would've joined the league in 2010 after Colorado then Utah would still be in the Mountain West. But somehow you all can't seem to understand that being good doesn't mean much if you aren't a brand that people want to see.
Late comment I know but I'm gonna say this that if this ever happens I'll slowly loose interest in college football and be more into college basketball because college basketball ain't gonna loose any of their conferences anytime soon
Some serious ❄️ ❄️ in the comments.
I don't think a 2 conference solution will be allowed without triggering anti-trust laws. There needs to be a minimum of 3. You are probably looking at 3 leagues of 24 teams. The Fox League, ESPN League, CBS League and what's left of the G5 becoming the G2 with 30-36 teams each, the Amazon League and Apple League.
The behavior of the SEC and BiG trying to control all or most of the money in College sports should have already triggered Antitrust law suit.
Three conferences of 24 works…
B1G adds: Stanford/ Arizona/ Utah/ Notre Dame/ Clemson/ Miami
SEC adds: Arizona State/ Colorado/ Kansas/ Virginia/ North Carolina/ Duke/ NC State/ Florida State
XII adds: Washington State/ Oregon State/ California/ San Diego State/ Memphis/ Boston College/ Syracuse/ UConn/ Pitt/ Louisville/ Wake Forest/ Georgia Tech/ USF
@@kopp0e541 No purpose for an even larger and wider Tier 2 BIG12.
@@tarheel7406 *that covers networks on issue of anti-trusts complaints…
@@tarheel7406 The problem with that assessment is the Big 10 and SEC are composed of Teir 1 AND Tier 3 teams. The Big 12 is a better league top to bottom.
You know, even the pro leagues have rules, for their own good. At what point does college sports need at least some rules?
Utah won't be in the 2 super-conferences. It's a pipe dream.
Utah is definitely going to take the place of a team who thinks they’re currently comfy in what we all know will become the only two real conferences. Can point a half dozen right away.
@@danjohnson8556
Utah will be in one of the two super conferences. Too bad for you.
@@ExaltedSeahawksFan Laughable. Utah has little-tough-guy syndrome. Everyone else but their fan base can see it.
@@danjohnson8556
Utah without a doubt will absolutely be in a super conference. It’s not a matter of if, but when.
Cope and seethe about it princess.
You say that because you think the two super conferences will be the expanded SEC and B1G. But teams like Vanderbilt, Rutgers, Illinois, and the rest of the dead weight will not be in the new league. The best teams from the SEC, B1G, ACC, and BXII will be splitting off to form something new. If any of the P5 continues on as football conferences it will be with leftovers and G5 backfill.
If that happens, cf will die
See. This is why we hate Utah. Moving to 2 super conferences he said while we all are not in one of them. The implication is, Utah is using the Big12 as a truck stop on its way up the ladder. I hope this Utah team wins 5 games or less and never sniffs a Big12 Championship.
Every team in the conference would leave if chosen. He’s not wrong at all about the super conference comments. Writing is already on the wall.
As a Utes fan, you’re very fortunate to have a team like Utah in your conference, they only improve it, so keep crying over them.
All I hear from you big 12 fans about Utah is nothing but negativity, and I really hope the Utes leave the big 12 as soon as they possibly can.
You are clearly looking to be offended. The B1G and SEC are positioning themselves to rule the while sport. Every team wants to position themselves to be in the "minor league NFL" that college football is clearly becoming. Every team is leveraging position right now to secure a future. If you don't see that, you aren't paying attention
@@ExaltedSeahawksFan where would they go? The Big Ten and SEC wouldn't want them.
@@Blasthole I think you’re not paying attention. I don’t think the SEC has designs on adding teams in Florida, SC, TX, or OK. I don’t think the Big10 is adding a teams that are not AAU. So I’m not seeing how the sec and Big10 are getting to 40 let alone 48. Utah and Kansas are uniquely positioned moving forward but the rest are in a snookered situation. Stuck, no options. SEC goal is to maximize revenue by having huge football all day Saturday. UNC it’s 52k seat stadium and less than a million viewers per week don’t meet the SEC standard. KS, same. Utah, same and to far. So if the SEC takes FSU, they are not going for UNC. And I don’t see why the Big10 would want what the SEC is passing on. Clemson? Who knows. Basically, we all probably agree those 2 FSU and Clem could figure it out with someone. The rest of us, no. You’re in the Big12 now and they had the chance to take any of you and they passed. Become Clemson. Become Alabama. This is the only way up.
We had to deal with Texas for 20+ years and you aren't even close to Texas. Sit down and shut it Utah.
Another b12 🤡 hating on Utah
What did he say that was so offensive to you?
It cracks me up when people say this… there will never be two super conferences! 😂
I think he’d probably know a lot more then you
There already is.
2 conferences with a total of 48 teams is the ideal top tier!
No offense but he is clueless about what is going on.
And you aren't?
@@steveb.2326 CatsClaw isn't one of the leaders of the conference who should be talking up the Big 12 and trying to lead the charge to a viable P3 instead of publicly stating that we don't think this subpar league, that we're too good for, is going to be around very long.
BTW: this is the same Utah team that lost 6 games last year. Lose your QB again and what you demonstrated last year is your recruiting is poor and that’s just a fact.
Utah is a good if not great school. But the unnecessary arrogance is an embarrassment to the entire institution. Terribly sad.
@@kimcoulter806
What a totally asinine comment! Utes recruiting is poor? lmfao you’re the one who is sad, and also pathetic!
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Wasn’t jus a qb that was out, was 8-15 starters every week. And 5 losses. But ok buddy.
@@kimcoulter806
Such an asinine comment.
You obviously didn't follow the team that closely last year, and that's okay. But to say we were just out a QB is a sever unserstatement. But yet we still found a way to hang with National title contender Washington, and beat SC and Caleb Williams with our 3rd string QB.