Guys, be sure to stick around for the aftercredit scene, a heartfelt tribute to our Uncle Tony 😢 It has come to my attention that Philip Brumley, the lawyer interviewed in this Broadcast, was actually sanctioned by the state of Montana for "his intentional and sustained efforts to deceive the courts." Brumley was defending Watchtower with some CSA cases, he lied, and was fined 154,000 US Dollars. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. This is the possible reason why this Broadcast was deleted. Or maybe Watchtower wanted to kill two birds with one stone, by also deleting Tony Morris' talk in the process. So much for God's one true religion, huh? Here's a more complete story on the disgraced lawyer: avoidjw.org/news/philip-brumley-sustained-effort-to-deceive/
It's so crazy. I remeber when this talk was realeaed yo I remeber not wanting to really even go to school like that and my grades actually suffered, but I was still going out in service and going to meetings and nobody really cared. That indoctrination shit is crazy.
It's such a strange thing for JWs to expect others to open their minds to what they believe, but then promote not attending college because of the possibility of learning about what others may believe. If your faith and your "truth" are so fragile that speaking to others who believe otherwise could that easily make you think your wrong about everything related to the religion: then WHY would you ever believe in it in the first place???
As is typical for Watchtower, what it advises for other people in other religions does NOT apply to JWs: "...are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination." w58 5/1, p.261 “We need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organizations with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are lovers of the truth, *there is nothing to fear from such an examination."* Truth book, p. 13
@@adamantiumbullet9215 The first place putting your religion to a test means you are trusting in man we are told in the Bible not to put your trust in any man. It also says all men are liars. We are to test the spirit. ❤
“MAKE SURE OF ALL THINGS”! Except watchtower and the governing body. Because if you investigate us, you might find out the truth about the truth and we can’t let that happen so we have to punish you forever.
The fundie church community I was part of (which may have been a cult as well but not as intense as JWs thankfully) had many people with that mentality that I knew and was close to but at least we weren’t discouraged from higher education, I suppose Tony’s kind might be right to fear higher education and evolution because in my case those were some of the things that ultimately killed my faith in conservative and mainstream Christianity as a whole.
Same. And I did it because something felt off with JW teaching on evo, but I didn't know how to work out what it was. Granted, I came out with a third, but it was a third and knowing what was really real. I might have had something like inattentive ADHD nobody had picked up as well. Hyperactive ADHD got attention, but inattentive wasn't well known back then.
It's so sad how these high control groups squash the natural curiosity of people. Learning is my favorite thing. Even if I'm not strong in the subject (Science and Math are not my strong suits) but I love when someone can help me understand more complex topics. Education is such a wonderful thing.
Yes. Learning is always good. And I believe the Armageddon survivers will learn complex things coming from the wisdom of Christ.. Because Christ he is the Son of the most High YHVH. And Christ can give us enormous power to accomplish everything. Painting Music Singing Reading Possible traveling by telepathic wisdom...who knows... WT only demands more people to work and built Kingdom halls for WT to sell...
Because when you are curious, you might look for answers. And then you might find WRONG answers. And then you might stop believing... because now you KNOW.
Higher education is one of the things that helped me break out of my fundamentalist church which may have been a cult as well, I became radicalized into that sort of worldview in high school but my denomination never discouraged college or the like so it was through that I started to realize that what that fundie church taught didn’t exactly align with the reality of the outside world (including the evolution bit, I knew people who really believed the world was only 6,000 years old). So I imagine that cases like mine is exactly why more controlling groups like JWs fear higher education, it could also be with a combination of the anti-intellectualism found in some parts of American society in particular.
@@monus782 I’m really happy to hear you got out. It’s just so sad how some of these groups refuse to reconcile their faith with the realities of science. You can still believe in God or whatever and accept that evolution is true.
I remember when my dad divorced my mom and left JWs he went back into school to advance in welding, electrical, architectural engineering and design which he originally wanted to do right after high school but my grandmother discouraged him going to university and refused to pay for any college/university and instead encouraged him to pioneer. But now with his degrees he earned about 4 years ago now I’ve seen that he is doing so much better now and even uses that money he gets to help support me and mother. I’m happy for him and he made me realize how much BS this religion is and I can’t wait to leave it.
They are instigating the brothers and sisters to work full time for WT building KHs which WT sells to pay law suits to court. Because they don't report the CSA cases... Serving Almighty GOD YHVH And serving Christ means : Accepting And recognize GOD as the most High and he sent his Son Crist to rescue humans from eternal death... fallow his commands daily... loving our family and fallow man like we love ourselves.... We as society are not saved by our " works" ....we are saved by grace of Christ... Even if I was doing 1.000.000 hours in field service I couldn't pay for my faults because it takes a perfect life to pay my faults.. Christ did that ... Building KHs and sell them is a fraud against GOD,s name , and an exploration against the " sheep"
I'm waiting for the day Tony Morris publishes his own expose on the Jehovah's Witnesses, like when Raymond Franz published 'Crisis of Conscience' in 1983.
Unlikely. Raymond Franz left because he had a conscience. We don't know why Morris left, but I guarantee conscience had nothing to do with it. Whatever Morris could write would lack the moral foundation Franz demonstrated.
I cannot believe that there still has been no news about Uncle Tony since he left the Governing Body. No information about if he is still an active JW, what congregation he attends, no video of him in a Kingdom Hall, giving a Public Talk somewhere, nothing.
Once they leave they do not return. They woke up from the indoctrination. The congregation is required to not talk or associate with the person who left. They are considered "bad" disfellowship! Cut off!
Im suprised they could convert anyone in some communities. Many immigrant families strongly value education and see it as a way to a better life. Telling some cultures no college and they will show you the door.
Yes They need lawyers to defend WT ...not to defend the rights of children they abuse.... How imoral and cruelty is that? I was a JW for decades. I,m out. Continuing fallow Crist commands. Not any organized religion commands.... Australia Royal Commission was a wake up for me. They had 1006 unreported CSA cases in Australia alone since 1959 up until 2015.... But I think according to recent news there is 800 more case ... The government needs to step in. To investigate this situations and bring justice to the victims.
26:35 really… because I pioneered from 2014-2018, and was a Ministerial Servant from 2015-2020 all because I wanted to work at bethel… and now today I have been saying that it was the worst mistake I’ve ever made… seriously it set my life back by at least a decade… if it were not for doing that I would be married and possibly have a kid by now
I'm so sorry. They just love to break people, I swear. I was, they are legally disowned now, related to a bunch of elders, bethelites, pioneers, & a some even moved to the Dominican Republic to pioneer. I have no idea why. I'm a psychic, & I told them staying with this cult would end badly for them when I was a lot younger. I hope things are better for you now. If I had closed the door on them a long time ago, I would be better off, Myself.
I stopped a Bible study when that JW sister BOASTED about not having a high school education. I politely got her the hell away from my kids . I’m racially mixed and my family that lives in the South USA was heavily involved in the civil rights movement and fighting against the poor education that Black southerners got.
I think they’ll be studying “my little book of bible stories” to avoid freaking out potential recruits. I know for a fact that new JWs/people who are not baptized, don’t have access to their full library, which becomes more and more unhinged as you progress. A lot of the violent/controlling parts of their doctrine are hidden from new members.
I think a number of those stories are going to freak them out anyway. The art alone is pretty bad. You're right though, they straight up lie to newbies about disfellowshipping, etc and then slowly convince them to dump their own families. It's so manipulative it should literally be illegal.
But they still asking for more works to build KHs for WT to sell later on. A kH should be built to promote God,s teaching and serve the community...and that building belongs to the community...... Business, business, business. For WT to pay court Cases of Child sex abuse... No worries Christ sees everything from above he is exposing anything bad against injustice.
They don't need doctors, but they sure need accountants and lawyers. Anyone who cites the bible over and over is guilty of circular reasoning. That's something you can learn from low-mid education. BTW, I, a guy who did trade school, make around 150k a year plus benefits. (Industrial electrician) no debts, it depends on what degree you do. Some are indeed useless, but a good lawyer will go farther than I could ever do. I was accepted for the PhD in pharmacology, but I liked the job of a millright more. That's what is great about being totally free. You can choose what you want. I can't help but feel sorry for the young people who get caught up in this. You don't have to gives your best life to these old decrepit guys.
People usually know the story of Yezhov edited out of the photo with Stalin, but in the Soviet Union there were more such absurdities, like subscribers of the Soviet Encyclopedia receiving "updated" pages with instruction to tear the old ones and replace it with the ones provided, when some prominent figure was outed.
My grandmother got a letter from a Jehovah witness and she can't read so she asked me to read and as soon as i realized what it was about i said to her that it was from a JW and that if she turned into one she would kose a grandson. I love her but no i can't ❤
It's very telling that Tony's "imagination" takes him straight to smoldering hot dog people. You know that man suffered PTSD his entire adult life and it shows through in many comments he has made about killing enemies, etc. Lots of dead people. I think he misses Vietnam.
In universities you learn critical thinking and are around people who may not think or believe like you. For as much as the gb claims all worldly people are evil if you go to school and see that no not all people are evil then you question other tenets and beliefs and you may just leave that faith.
My understanding is they follow a traditional patriarchal view that goes God/Jesus - The church - Husband - Wife - Children. We are the second lowest step on the ladder.
@@Nexibis Actually, in WT Land, male children rank higher than women. A 12 year-old boy qualifies to handle a microphone during meetings or pass out talk slips, but not an adult JW woman.
They're studying "My Book of Bible Stories" at the book study now? I'm genuinely shocked because I remember there always being talks about studying "the meat of the word instead of sticking to milk" or something like that. It's been years. So I don't remember the exact phrase. But it was something like that
When he mentioned the horror of acceptance of evolution I had a mega-cringe. I became a JW at a young age in the 70s. I stopped studying evolution and accepted the bible version of history. I abandoned any thought of higher education thinking it was a waste of time. So I dedicated my life to the dreary career of the preaching work. When I finally left the org at the beginning of the 21st century, I have been studying all sorts of science and history as well as analyzing the bible as a skeptic. No longer do I wonder why prayer almost never seems to work, nor am I tormented by guilt. I don't need to worry about running into JWs I know, since I moved to another city. when I meet them here I enjoy debating them with rationality and my knowledge of science and history which they nothing about.
Not legally, but most kids can’t afford to live by themselves. Either go to college or get out of my house. Now you have a kid who has to follow the parents every whim, you also have a kid who will take the first chance to get out of said house when he or she is capable of doing so
I'm blown away how frequently these videos sound very Mormon. I grew up Mormon and the JWs were always the weird ones. Ha ha! As a Mormon woman i was encouraged to get education, but not to actually use it. It was 99% for me to be able to teach my children and 1% to use in case my husband died. No one ever mentioned divorce or disability or job loss or never getting married as reasons that i might need to work. It's not a far stretch to say "Jesus is coming, so don't waste your time and money on education. You won't need to use it. "
Lol Thought I would find you people. Name 1 general authority who said that women should get an education but not actually use it. _"No one ever mentioned divorce or disability or job loss or never getting married as reasons that i might need to work."_ You want them to state obvious things like this? Like come on, this is just common sense stuff.
Sounds more like a cultural thing or the people you were around. The church of Jesus Christ is all about getting the best education you can and always furthering your education wherever possible. Tons of talks from the higher ups talking of this very thing. The church even has a highly regarded university. A higher education is encouraged for all
@dylanwilliams2202 Oh buddy! You must be younger. SWK and ETB very, very much discouraged women from doing anything except being a stay at home mother. SWK wrote a book called "Marriage" that specifically says that divorces are caused by women working outside the home. Imagine my fear as a young woman thinking that if I wanted to be something other than a stay at home mom that I'd be setting myself up for a divorce and it would be all my fault! I'm happy to provide a boatload of quotes from GAs, including presidents of the church, from the 1980s and 1990s that drive this point home. I'll be honest, I do not hear that sort of rhetoric anymore. A lot of younger people have never heard those things from the pulpit or church manuals and don't realize that they were the predominant line if thinking in the not so distant past.
10:40 at least tony admits that intelligent professors will reshape and deprogram all the crap the witness student has been indoctrinated with. He literally admits that watchtower teaching can't stand up to intelligent scrutiny! 😂
"You need to have a goal and you need to have a plan. If you're lacking either one, Satan will provide one for you." - Weirdly enough, that'd be good advice if it were coming from LITERALLY anyone else. 😄
So brave, so much courage, if they proclaim themselves to be secure and brave with spreading "God's word" and being obnoxious to people with other opinions or religions with their crappy shunning doomsday cult, then why do they have to delete this videos? 💀
Just listening to uncle Tony's old talks kind of support the theory that he was forced out. Nothing about him says that he would ever support women wearing pants
Yesterday I had my first chemo treatment at my local hospital. (I'm in New Zealand so it is all free) I was in a day ward in a room with eight patients receiving a variety of treatments, including blood transfusions. I remarked to my friend who was supporting me that it was one place we were probably free from JW proselytisers.
Jesus Sat with sinners, but this guys seem to "Forget" about this... Matthew 9:10-13 American Standard Version (ASV) And it came to pass, as he sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with Jesus and his disciples. And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Teacher with the publicans and sinners?
Exactly. Christ was sitting with sinners..not to became a sinner,but to help them to change their lifestyle from bad morals actions, to good morals actions. Maria Magdeline was one example..she was a prostitute but she accepted Christ as GOD,s Son And Jesus said to her : Sin no more.... He didn't ask her to build a sinagoga and sell it..
@@MariaNunes-po5rc als!, the mission of the Christian is to make disciples... How you gonna make disciples if Jehovah witnesses apart them selfs from the people... Matthew 28:19-20 New International Version 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
A few days ago, I went grocery shopping at a mall I’m not local to. These guys, probably Spanish speaking, probably South/Central American, approaches my family just as we’ve parked. There’s a flock of them, all asking folks if they can pray for them, already ensnaring a (presumed) Christian couple. They were giving JW, and as I’m unpacking my boot, he asks if he can pray for me. Focused on my current activity, and without flinching, I let out a loud “absolutely not”, and I can feel every single JW rear their head in fright. The guy scuttled off too fast for me to say “I’m so sorry, that was terribly abrupt of me, but thank you for the offer” 😭 I still feel very guilty about that… Here in South Africa, it seems there is an increasing interest to spread the “gospel” of JW.
I love the video clip of Lloyd. Every time they pretended that the governing body was going to come back with the forces of Jehovah I imagined that Tony was going to be gunning for Lloyd personally. With McCallums in one hand and a flaming sword in the other.
I highly regret not going to college and getting my business degree like I originally wanted. As a mother trying to better my life now it’s hard. It would have been so much easier when I was young with no responsibilities to reach this goal but I’m still gonna reach it
So I am in Hawaii rn and saw a JW pamphlet stand a few days ago. There were two women standing there, we made eye contact for a split second and they called me over, I felt bad, so I listened to the whole, like what 20 minute talk? Then at the end they asked me if I wanted to take a pamphlet home, and when I told them I personally wasn't religious but my parents are SUPER Catholic, and SUPER not ok with other religious doctrines like Watchtowers in their home, they got pissed 😂. And went off into another 20 minute rant about how, my parents have been led astray by false religion and how I'm worse because I dont belive in any religion. All the while I just stood there super awkwardly as these two middle aged women screamed at a 17 year old for wasting their time, in the middle of a crowded strip. They then asked me "I bet you also belive in abortion, don't you?" Like it was a bad thing. 💀 After they called me a murderer, I just left. The saddest part, I've had similar reactions from people at my parents church. 😂 This is not just a JW thing, people like this exist in every religion.
@@imdbtruth Love that that's your takeaway from this. Love that for you. I'm not going to have a back and forth with someone who reads about how I was verbally assaulted by two strangers, and thinks "🤓Erm but abortion bad. "
Recently found your channel and since then I watched your videos almost everyday. I never had much to to do with Jehova's Witnesses but now I find your work very interesting actually. I didn't know this organisation is THAT crazy 💀👍
I lost the cringe challenge the moment I saw Tony's picture in the thumbnail. Also, I would have laughed my damn tail off if Tony had burned his finger when he lit that match.
The problem with high education is that colleges and universities never tell students about worker's compensation insurance. When you graduate, employers will not hire you because you don't have 5 years of experience; they will try to scam you into working for free to avoid paying worker's compensation insurance. I am a 2-time college graduate, and I work at a grocery store pushing shopping carts inside the store and work alongside uneducated people making the same amount of money. College/university used to work when worker's compensation insurance was low, but not anymore.
As an Australian, I always see Australia in the background of these JW broadcasting videos, with all these lights to show where large populations live, and yet im looking at the outback in NT and WA lit up like a Christmas tree, but NOBODY lives there.
I lost it at 0:09 yeah pretty sure the less we have of something important as lawyers and doctors pretty sure armageddon will come earlier than they expect also the amazing digital circus episode 3 is coming to TH-cam and netflix if anyone's wondering or wants something new to watch.
Has anyone looked into how their lawyers who are also members are paid because there can be bar sanctions against their licenses if they are being paid in anyway for their so called pro bono legal work. There's got to be some type of fraud there right?
as if there's only 2 reasons to go to college-- "social prominence" or "getting famous". like geez. do people forget that it's valuable simply TO LEARN. that you can want an education for the sake of an education in and of itself. like bro i just want to learn more.
Luke the diciple was a doctor Paul was a lawyer. They both fallow Crist by accepting Christ as God,s Son. That is the primary thing... Cristians also should share the gospel of Christ to family members and friends... But WT wants slaves...to build KHs for WT to sell later on...
My cringe moment: 9:27. The claim that parents will blame the elders for not shepherding their grown children. Twenty years in that organization, I have never seen that happen. The blame always rains from the top down - never from the bottom up.
Guys, be sure to stick around for the aftercredit scene, a heartfelt tribute to our Uncle Tony 😢
It has come to my attention that Philip Brumley, the lawyer interviewed in this Broadcast, was actually sanctioned by the state of Montana for "his intentional and sustained efforts to deceive the courts." Brumley was defending Watchtower with some CSA cases, he lied, and was fined 154,000 US Dollars. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
This is the possible reason why this Broadcast was deleted. Or maybe Watchtower wanted to kill two birds with one stone, by also deleting Tony Morris' talk in the process. So much for God's one true religion, huh?
Here's a more complete story on the disgraced lawyer: avoidjw.org/news/philip-brumley-sustained-effort-to-deceive/
Something tells me that he's not going to pay the fine with his own money.
It's so crazy. I remeber when this talk was realeaed yo I remeber not wanting to really even go to school like that and my grades actually suffered, but I was still going out in service and going to meetings and nobody really cared. That indoctrination shit is crazy.
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What is the after credit music it’s very cool and calming😅
Tony wanted to go to Uni that's why he was put out *
A guy: * studies Marine Biology *
The devil: YES, NOW GET AN AQUARIUM!😈
Because there are worse things to get... I bet that swimming pool was tempting too
@@ashleyweems996in a swimming pool there may be a woman in a bikini just minding her own business.
Yess go look at that girl’s aquarium 😈😈😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
*studies psychology*
the devil: YES, NOW GO HELP PEOPLE
"The better the university, the greater the danger." Unbelievable. Tony also sounds intoxicated. Good example he's setting.
Tony meant to say, "The better the whiskey, the better the buzz."
@@adamantiumbullet9215 🤣
@@adamantiumbullet9215Don't do beer.
They do need lawyers now 😂
Anyone who doesn’t want you to have access to facts, evidence, and education is not to be trusted.
It's such a strange thing for JWs to expect others to open their minds to what they believe, but then promote not attending college because of the possibility of learning about what others may believe.
If your faith and your "truth" are so fragile that speaking to others who believe otherwise could that easily make you think your wrong about everything related to the religion: then WHY would you ever believe in it in the first place???
As is typical for Watchtower, what it advises for other people in other religions does NOT apply to JWs:
"...are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination." w58 5/1, p.261
“We need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organizations with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are lovers of the truth, *there is nothing to fear from such an examination."* Truth book, p. 13
@@adamantiumbullet9215
The first place putting your religion to a test means you are trusting in man we are told in the Bible not to put your trust in any man. It also says all men are liars.
We are to test the spirit. ❤
“MAKE SURE OF ALL THINGS”!
Except watchtower and the governing body. Because if you investigate us, you might find out the truth about the truth and we can’t let that happen so we have to punish you forever.
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None of that has anything to do with Watchtower's double standard, 'rules for thee but not for me' advice.
@@adamantiumbullet9215
I commented on one segment of the video. Did you not hear the video? Just wondering.
I cringed as a biologist when this dude had a absolute look of horror when he said evolution
Me too , I’ve got the biology degree and my oldest is a biochemist
That's about the moment I cringed as well
The fundie church community I was part of (which may have been a cult as well but not as intense as JWs thankfully) had many people with that mentality that I knew and was close to but at least we weren’t discouraged from higher education, I suppose Tony’s kind might be right to fear higher education and evolution because in my case those were some of the things that ultimately killed my faith in conservative and mainstream Christianity as a whole.
Macro evolution is a ridiculous theory that is not supported by material evidence.
Same. And I did it because something felt off with JW teaching on evo, but I didn't know how to work out what it was.
Granted, I came out with a third, but it was a third and knowing what was really real. I might have had something like inattentive ADHD nobody had picked up as well. Hyperactive ADHD got attention, but inattentive wasn't well known back then.
It's so sad how these high control groups squash the natural curiosity of people. Learning is my favorite thing. Even if I'm not strong in the subject (Science and Math are not my strong suits) but I love when someone can help me understand more complex topics. Education is such a wonderful thing.
This is such a good comment because so simple and so right. The NATURAL curiosity is stifled
Yes.
Learning is always good.
And I believe the Armageddon survivers will learn complex things coming from the wisdom of Christ..
Because Christ he is the Son of the most High YHVH.
And Christ can give us enormous power to accomplish everything.
Painting
Music
Singing
Reading
Possible traveling by telepathic wisdom...who knows...
WT only demands more people to work and built Kingdom halls for WT to sell...
Because when you are curious, you might look for answers. And then you might find WRONG answers. And then you might stop believing... because now you KNOW.
Higher education is one of the things that helped me break out of my fundamentalist church which may have been a cult as well, I became radicalized into that sort of worldview in high school but my denomination never discouraged college or the like so it was through that I started to realize that what that fundie church taught didn’t exactly align with the reality of the outside world (including the evolution bit, I knew people who really believed the world was only 6,000 years old).
So I imagine that cases like mine is exactly why more controlling groups like JWs fear higher education, it could also be with a combination of the anti-intellectualism found in some parts of American society in particular.
@@monus782 I’m really happy to hear you got out. It’s just so sad how some of these groups refuse to reconcile their faith with the realities of science. You can still believe in God or whatever and accept that evolution is true.
" Post-Secondary education leads to freedom of thought which leads to a rebellious attitude..." Enough said right?
Except in the last 4 decades. Marxism in doctrination.
Saying the quiet part out loud, we need ignorant members, not educated ones lol
I remember when my dad divorced my mom and left JWs he went back into school to advance in welding, electrical, architectural engineering and design which he originally wanted to do right after high school but my grandmother discouraged him going to university and refused to pay for any college/university and instead encouraged him to pioneer. But now with his degrees he earned about 4 years ago now I’ve seen that he is doing so much better now and even uses that money he gets to help support me and mother. I’m happy for him and he made me realize how much BS this religion is and I can’t wait to leave it.
I cringed as soon as I hit PLAY. The anticipation at another video was overwhelming THUMBS UP!!
"Don't pursue higher education!".... 😂
...because higher education teaches critical thinking. They don't want that. They are weird as hell!
They are instigating the brothers and sisters to work full time for WT building KHs which WT sells to pay law suits to court. Because they don't report the CSA cases...
Serving Almighty GOD YHVH
And serving Christ means :
Accepting And recognize GOD as the most High and he sent his Son Crist to rescue humans from eternal death... fallow his commands daily... loving our family and fallow man like we love ourselves....
We as society are not saved by our " works" ....we are saved by grace of Christ...
Even if I was doing 1.000.000 hours in field service I couldn't pay for my faults because it takes a perfect life to pay my faults..
Christ did that ...
Building KHs and sell them is a fraud against GOD,s name , and an exploration against the " sheep"
I'm waiting for the day Tony Morris publishes his own expose on the Jehovah's Witnesses, like when Raymond Franz published 'Crisis of Conscience' in 1983.
Unlikely. Raymond Franz left because he had a conscience. We don't know why Morris left, but I guarantee conscience had nothing to do with it. Whatever Morris could write would lack the moral foundation Franz demonstrated.
@@box-botkids3267 Yep. It's more likely that he went because he opposed the recent new light, not out of any sudden awakening.
i have always thought scandal and cover-up….. we need a full investigation on this. Pretty sure the org bought his new home in one of the Carolinas…
@abby-.11 2 homes. 1 he lives in the other close by for visitors. Search the Blue Envelope. Great content creator. Ex generational bro.
@@henrydejong8448 i will do that. love this community
Keeping followers sheltered from the outside world, and disenfranchising them by banning higher education, is a classic cult move.
Two Panda videos in one day? Is it Christmas?
of course not Jehovah hates Christmas 😂
naw its the remembrance
I cannot believe that there still has been no news about Uncle Tony since he left the Governing Body. No information about if he is still an active JW, what congregation he attends, no video of him in a Kingdom Hall, giving a Public Talk somewhere, nothing.
After blowing out a lit match..he’s disappeared..like smoke🤣👍🏽
He's being hidden like the senator's brother in Prison Break
Once they leave they do not return. They woke up from the indoctrination. The congregation is required to not talk or associate with the person who left. They are considered "bad" disfellowship! Cut off!
Damage control. The less of him is seen, the less questions, the less expose! 😂
Im suprised they could convert anyone in some communities. Many immigrant families strongly value education and see it as a way to a better life. Telling some cultures no college and they will show you the door.
They removed this video because Watch Tower needs LAWYERS, desperately!!!!!!!!! not just construction workers.
Yes
They need lawyers to defend WT ...not to defend the rights of children they abuse....
How imoral and cruelty is that?
I was a JW for decades.
I,m out.
Continuing fallow Crist commands.
Not any organized religion commands....
Australia Royal Commission was a wake up for me.
They had 1006 unreported CSA cases in Australia alone since 1959 up until 2015.... But I think according to recent news there is 800 more case ...
The government needs to step in.
To investigate this situations and bring justice to the victims.
Can you imagine meeting Tony at a bar and sitting down next to him and just saying, "What happened bro?" 😂
Damn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sparlock likes it when you are educated
Yes, I do like it.
@@Naka_IIWe love Sparlock 😌
@@WinglessVulture I share the same sentiments too, mortal.
Your videos are so good Pandatower 😂😭
26:35 really… because I pioneered from 2014-2018, and was a Ministerial Servant from 2015-2020 all because I wanted to work at bethel… and now today I have been saying that it was the worst mistake I’ve ever made… seriously it set my life back by at least a decade… if it were not for doing that I would be married and possibly have a kid by now
I'm so sorry. They just love to break people, I swear. I was, they are legally disowned now, related to a bunch of elders, bethelites, pioneers, & a some even moved to the Dominican Republic to pioneer. I have no idea why. I'm a psychic, & I told them staying with this cult would end badly for them when I was a lot younger.
I hope things are better for you now. If I had closed the door on them a long time ago, I would be better off, Myself.
never regret who you WERE... kepp moving forward 1 step at a time!
I stopped a Bible study when that JW sister BOASTED about not having a high school education. I politely got her the hell away from my kids . I’m racially mixed and my family that lives in the South USA was heavily involved in the civil rights movement and fighting against the poor education that Black southerners got.
Educated women boast an impressive 90% divorce rate.
Good luck with your "educated" wives.
I think they’ll be studying “my little book of bible stories” to avoid freaking out potential recruits. I know for a fact that new JWs/people who are not baptized, don’t have access to their full library, which becomes more and more unhinged as you progress. A lot of the violent/controlling parts of their doctrine are hidden from new members.
I think a number of those stories are going to freak them out anyway. The art alone is pretty bad. You're right though, they straight up lie to newbies about disfellowshipping, etc and then slowly convince them to dump their own families. It's so manipulative it should literally be illegal.
But they still asking for more works to build KHs for WT to sell later on.
A kH should be built to promote God,s teaching and serve the community...and that building belongs to the community......
Business, business, business.
For WT to pay court Cases of Child sex abuse...
No worries Christ sees everything from above he is exposing anything bad against injustice.
They don't need doctors, but they sure need accountants and lawyers. Anyone who cites the bible over and over is guilty of circular reasoning. That's something you can learn from low-mid education.
BTW, I, a guy who did trade school, make around 150k a year plus benefits. (Industrial electrician) no debts, it depends on what degree you do. Some are indeed useless, but a good lawyer will go farther than I could ever do. I was accepted for the PhD in pharmacology, but I liked the job of a millright more. That's what is great about being totally free.
You can choose what you want. I can't help but feel sorry for the young people who get caught up in this. You don't have to gives your best life to these old decrepit guys.
SPARLOCK THE WARRIOR WIZARD has offered up a comment for the algorithm.
Thank you sparlock the warrior wizard
@@cloakedcarp You're indeed welcome, feeble mortal.
@@Naka_II i love you im your biggest fan
Sparlock you rock. I grow feeble in your yt presence.
@@cloakedcarp You're welcome.
People usually know the story of Yezhov edited out of the photo with Stalin, but in the Soviet Union there were more such absurdities, like subscribers of the Soviet Encyclopedia receiving "updated" pages with instruction to tear the old ones and replace it with the ones provided, when some prominent figure was outed.
Well, something similar happens in this religion: from time to time they tell the congregants to dispose (in the recycling) of older literature
I swear i renembered seeing this,but never knew that it was removed.
Thanks for calling it out :,)
time to watch from my university cafeteria 😂
I love when you use the echoing fart sound effect, takes me out every time
"once a father always a father" is a rich thing to say for a jw
Is this video a love letter to our uncle Tony?
Yes!
I love it! ❤
My grandmother got a letter from a Jehovah witness and she can't read so she asked me to read and as soon as i realized what it was about i said to her that it was from a JW and that if she turned into one she would kose a grandson. I love her but no i can't ❤
I didn't cringe, but I did literally laught at loud when the guy said "and now her son believes in... EVOLUTION"
Macro evolution is a ridiculous theory.
I wonder what evolution her son talking about?
He was removed for being a drunk is what I heard. Slurred speech, random diarrhea if the mouth. Yep he has the symptoms
But, they ALL slur because they're a thousand damn years old.
@@Eric_01🤪😜🤣😂
This is so disturbing. My heart breaks for all the people who have been made to grow up in this cult.
It's very telling that Tony's "imagination" takes him straight to smoldering hot dog people. You know that man suffered PTSD his entire adult life and it shows through in many comments he has made about killing enemies, etc. Lots of dead people. I think he misses Vietnam.
This is how abuse lives. Don't let your kid leave to go to college or they might learn life is better without a cult and that facts are real.
In universities you learn critical thinking and are around people who may not think or believe like you. For as much as the gb claims all worldly people are evil if you go to school and see that no not all people are evil then you question other tenets and beliefs and you may just leave that faith.
I cannot understand how people believe and follow this!!!
Can someone pls explain to me what this religion has against women speaking 😭
Watchtower is only reflecting the misogyny of the Bible.
My understanding is they follow a traditional patriarchal view that goes God/Jesus - The church - Husband - Wife - Children. We are the second lowest step on the ladder.
@@Nexibis
Actually, in WT Land, male children rank higher than women. A 12 year-old boy qualifies to handle a microphone during meetings or pass out talk slips, but not an adult JW woman.
@@adamantiumbullet9215 oh damn I forgot that. Thank you!
Actually it is husband , son, and then wife and daughter. You are on the bottom.@@Nexibis
They're studying "My Book of Bible Stories" at the book study now? I'm genuinely shocked because I remember there always being talks about studying "the meat of the word instead of sticking to milk" or something like that. It's been years. So I don't remember the exact phrase. But it was something like that
I’m catholic but I’m obsessed with JW lore, lol.
What a walking red flag cult 😂❤
At 0:49, for a minute I thought he was holding a joint. LOL
When he mentioned the horror of acceptance of evolution I had a mega-cringe. I became a JW at a young age in the 70s. I stopped studying evolution and accepted the bible version of history. I abandoned any thought of higher education thinking it was a waste of time. So I dedicated my life to the dreary career of the preaching work. When I finally left the org at the beginning of the 21st century, I have been studying all sorts of science and history as well as analyzing the bible as a skeptic. No longer do I wonder why prayer almost never seems to work, nor am I tormented by guilt. I don't need to worry about running into JWs I know, since I moved to another city. when I meet them here I enjoy debating them with rationality and my knowledge of science and history which they nothing about.
Legally I don’t think a parent can prevent their kid from going to college.
Nope.
Not legally, but most kids can’t afford to live by themselves. Either go to college or get out of my house. Now you have a kid who has to follow the parents every whim, you also have a kid who will take the first chance to get out of said house when he or she is capable of doing so
I'm blown away how frequently these videos sound very Mormon. I grew up Mormon and the JWs were always the weird ones. Ha ha!
As a Mormon woman i was encouraged to get education, but not to actually use it. It was 99% for me to be able to teach my children and 1% to use in case my husband died. No one ever mentioned divorce or disability or job loss or never getting married as reasons that i might need to work.
It's not a far stretch to say "Jesus is coming, so don't waste your time and money on education. You won't need to use it. "
Lol Thought I would find you people. Name 1 general authority who said that women should get an education but not actually use it.
_"No one ever mentioned divorce or disability or job loss or never getting married as reasons that i might need to work."_ You want them to state obvious things like this? Like come on, this is just common sense stuff.
both religions were founded by FREEMASON 33*ILLUMINATTI
Nothing wrong with higher education
Sounds more like a cultural thing or the people you were around. The church of Jesus Christ is all about getting the best education you can and always furthering your education wherever possible.
Tons of talks from the higher ups talking of this very thing.
The church even has a highly regarded university. A higher education is encouraged for all
@dylanwilliams2202 Oh buddy! You must be younger. SWK and ETB very, very much discouraged women from doing anything except being a stay at home mother. SWK wrote a book called "Marriage" that specifically says that divorces are caused by women working outside the home. Imagine my fear as a young woman thinking that if I wanted to be something other than a stay at home mom that I'd be setting myself up for a divorce and it would be all my fault!
I'm happy to provide a boatload of quotes from GAs, including presidents of the church, from the 1980s and 1990s that drive this point home. I'll be honest, I do not hear that sort of rhetoric anymore. A lot of younger people have never heard those things from the pulpit or church manuals and don't realize that they were the predominant line if thinking in the not so distant past.
Danke!
His voice is like nails on a chalkboard!! I’ve always just cringed when hearing his voice, always made me feel creepy too.
he wants to molest you ....sexually!1😂🎉😂❤ but, he said you dont deserve flowers of foreplay!1😂🎉😂😂😮😮
I don't think that college is for everyone, and is sometimes a bit of a waste of resources, but WOW this is some insane crap.
I wonder if Tony can still afford the top shelf booze he was drinking as a member of the GB. I hope not! 🍸🥃🍺🍷🍾
10:40 at least tony admits that intelligent professors will reshape and deprogram all the crap the witness student has been indoctrinated with. He literally admits that watchtower teaching can't stand up to intelligent scrutiny! 😂
"You need to have a goal and you need to have a plan. If you're lacking either one, Satan will provide one for you."
- Weirdly enough, that'd be good advice if it were coming from LITERALLY anyone else. 😄
For our family it was never a 'suggestion' but an order from everyone we knew.
Early for the first time. I'm so happy
Bravo!!!👏🏻 I’m so happy you have all his videos downloaded!!!
So brave, so much courage, if they proclaim themselves to be secure and brave with spreading "God's word" and being obnoxious to people with other opinions or religions with their crappy shunning doomsday cult, then why do they have to delete this videos? 💀
Something about a religious organization haveing a "legal department" gives off big evil corporation vibes
Yeah it does but then again the whole cult is extremely evil and corrupt
No Tony their son left a false religion ran by satan
how about when they guild the youth ;; "face away and pull down those pants sweety"
Just listening to uncle Tony's old talks kind of support the theory that he was forced out. Nothing about him says that he would ever support women wearing pants
Yesterday I had my first chemo treatment at my local hospital. (I'm in New Zealand so it is all free) I was in a day ward in a room with eight patients receiving a variety of treatments, including blood transfusions. I remarked to my friend who was supporting me that it was one place we were probably free from JW proselytisers.
2:16 this whole religion is a waste of time
I come see your videos after meeting, hugs from 🇦🇴
You may not need lawyers and doctors in your afterlife fantasy world... but you need them now.
Wow, I had no idea. This explains alot of the behavior from my parents while I was going to college.
Jesus Sat with sinners, but this guys seem to "Forget" about this... Matthew 9:10-13 American Standard Version (ASV)
And it came to pass, as he sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with Jesus and his disciples. And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Teacher with the publicans and sinners?
Exactly.
Christ was sitting with sinners..not to became a sinner,but to help them to change their lifestyle from bad morals actions, to good morals actions.
Maria Magdeline was one example..she was a prostitute but she accepted Christ as GOD,s Son
And Jesus said to her :
Sin no more....
He didn't ask her to build a sinagoga and sell it..
@@MariaNunes-po5rc als!, the mission of the Christian is to make disciples... How you gonna make disciples if Jehovah witnesses apart them selfs from the people... Matthew 28:19-20
New International Version
19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Nice working close to 85,000 subs
Does the brain of a governing body member tend to shrink from abuse or neglect?
All 9 members of the GB _combined_ still don't equal one brain. They all begin with shrinkage and it only gets worse.
If I didn’t go to college, I would not be making such a big impact on the kids I work with everyday. It gives me life
you are the best thanks for your work panda❤❤
Have I been pressured by the system into believing my service to Jehovah will somehow make me a more respected person and lead me to a better life? 🤔
I’m completely dead from cringing I’m gonna leave and finish it later 💀💀💀
A few days ago, I went grocery shopping at a mall I’m not local to. These guys, probably Spanish speaking, probably South/Central American, approaches my family just as we’ve parked. There’s a flock of them, all asking folks if they can pray for them, already ensnaring a (presumed) Christian couple. They were giving JW, and as I’m unpacking my boot, he asks if he can pray for me. Focused on my current activity, and without flinching, I let out a loud “absolutely not”, and I can feel every single JW rear their head in fright. The guy scuttled off too fast for me to say “I’m so sorry, that was terribly abrupt of me, but thank you for the offer” 😭 I still feel very guilty about that…
Here in South Africa, it seems there is an increasing interest to spread the “gospel” of JW.
Its never what does God instruct us to do. It has become, what does the GB think?
I love the video clip of Lloyd. Every time they pretended that the governing body was going to come back with the forces of Jehovah I imagined that Tony was going to be gunning for Lloyd personally. With McCallums in one hand and a flaming sword in the other.
oh man what a great one brother, thanks
What knowledge are they afraid of? They approve drinking, which things will erode their thinking?
I highly regret not going to college and getting my business degree like I originally wanted. As a mother trying to better my life now it’s hard. It would have been so much easier when I was young with no responsibilities to reach this goal but I’m still gonna reach it
So I am in Hawaii rn and saw a JW pamphlet stand a few days ago. There were two women standing there, we made eye contact for a split second and they called me over, I felt bad, so I listened to the whole, like what 20 minute talk? Then at the end they asked me if I wanted to take a pamphlet home, and when I told them I personally wasn't religious but my parents are SUPER Catholic, and SUPER not ok with other religious doctrines like Watchtowers in their home, they got pissed 😂. And went off into another 20 minute rant about how, my parents have been led astray by false religion and how I'm worse because I dont belive in any religion.
All the while I just stood there super awkwardly as these two middle aged women screamed at a 17 year old for wasting their time, in the middle of a crowded strip. They then asked me "I bet you also belive in abortion, don't you?" Like it was a bad thing. 💀
After they called me a murderer, I just left. The saddest part, I've had similar reactions from people at my parents church. 😂 This is not just a JW thing, people like this exist in every religion.
Abortion is a bad thing.
@@imdbtruth Love that that's your takeaway from this. Love that for you. I'm not going to have a back and forth with someone who reads about how I was verbally assaulted by two strangers, and thinks "🤓Erm but abortion bad. "
@@Hyper_Fixatios Being "verbally assaulted" doesn't compare to being murdered in the womb and having your remains sold for profit.
@@Hyper_Fixatios Being "verbally assaulted" doesn't compare with being terminated in the womb and having your remains sold for profit.
@@imdbtruthHow about contraception? Is that also “a bad thing”? What about IVF?
This video is super demure. I definitely feel jah’s presence
Recently found your channel and since then I watched your videos almost everyday. I never had much to to do with Jehova's Witnesses but now I find your work very interesting actually. I didn't know this organisation is THAT crazy 💀👍
@ukrainezilla•
The organization isn't crazy, you just can't see Jehovah's Love 😔. The governing body loves all the members very much 😌.
Yes they are crazy
@@fukai-samado your masters know you are talking to apostates?
@@PokemonRules333 I was being sarcastic lol, im actually pimo.
@@fukai-samaoh my bad
Give me a drink! Give me... a drink...
Ignorance is bliss
Bro at 15:18 blink if you need help
He blinked...he needs haaaaaaaaaalp
I’ve already cringed in the teaser! 😂 Tony Morris saying the better the university the greater the danger. Yikes!! 😬
It has always been that way, since I can remember in the 1970's.
Yeah let’s go to a school that doesn’t pay you anything!! To do volunteer work that doesn’t pay anything!! Oh my goodness 😂
4:50 these guys are masters of “spiritual harm”. I think what AntMo is saying is, the watchtower doesn’t want anyone else in their business.
I lost the cringe challenge the moment I saw Tony's picture in the thumbnail. Also, I would have laughed my damn tail off if Tony had burned his finger when he lit that match.
in private meetings with shunned , he puts ciggarrettes out on his neck!❤
The problem with high education is that colleges and universities never tell students about worker's compensation insurance. When you graduate, employers will not hire you because you don't have 5 years of experience; they will try to scam you into working for free to avoid paying worker's compensation insurance. I am a 2-time college graduate, and I work at a grocery store pushing shopping carts inside the store and work alongside uneducated people making the same amount of money. College/university used to work when worker's compensation insurance was low, but not anymore.
As an Australian, I always see Australia in the background of these JW broadcasting videos, with all these lights to show where large populations live, and yet im looking at the outback in NT and WA lit up like a Christmas tree, but NOBODY lives there.
I lost it at 0:09 yeah pretty sure the less we have of something important as lawyers and doctors pretty sure armageddon will come earlier than they expect also the amazing digital circus episode 3 is coming to TH-cam and netflix if anyone's wondering or wants something new to watch.
Has anyone looked into how their lawyers who are also members are paid because there can be bar sanctions against their licenses if they are being paid in anyway for their so called pro bono legal work. There's got to be some type of fraud there right?
er....ya....
Ayyy 8 minutes ago! Yipeee :D. Perfect thing to watch while im sick, lol
as if there's only 2 reasons to go to college-- "social prominence" or "getting famous". like geez. do people forget that it's valuable simply TO LEARN. that you can want an education for the sake of an education in and of itself. like bro i just want to learn more.
Luke the diciple was a doctor
Paul was a lawyer.
They both fallow Crist by accepting Christ as God,s Son.
That is the primary thing...
Cristians also should share the gospel of Christ to family members and friends...
But WT wants slaves...to build KHs for WT to sell later on...
Dude that peach's castle theme at 14 minutes in is fucking beautiful.
Love your channel
2:13 the drama.
Fr
My cringe moment: 9:27. The claim that parents will blame the elders for not shepherding their grown children. Twenty years in that organization, I have never seen that happen. The blame always rains from the top down - never from the bottom up.
I listened to old Tony and all I've got to say is ......like old Tony , ILL DRINK TO THAT CRAP
And that why i leave that place i was young kid i dont want become cult member i never go jw kingdom
0:33 _SAINT_ Tony, please.
We should canonize him
@@exjwpandatower something something human cannonball joke