How Good Was TheShy Really?

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  • @cinematicesports
    @cinematicesports  ปีที่แล้ว +44

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  • @dinouser554
    @dinouser554 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    Watching this after that 1-16 performance from TheShy. Man's the true definition of coinflip lmao

    • @klmchee
      @klmchee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      he had arm injury tho

    • @thebestteacher7466
      @thebestteacher7466 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Zeus is just better

    • @ziyueguan3430
      @ziyueguan3430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, counter + jungler always ganking top, it's not hard to beat the enemy top@@thebestteacher7466

    • @pluto5404
      @pluto5404 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      With TheShy getting older and not at his peak, WBG wasnt also the best team compared to 2018 IG, also T1 studied him well

    • @jouzu2477
      @jouzu2477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@pluto5404T1 studies everyone well

  • @ryanmackie6936
    @ryanmackie6936 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    The Shy in the past 2 series has gone 2/22. He has been on a big slump, but I've never seen a player better than him at his peak. He still randomly becomes that guy, but it seems to be less often.

    • @tenki_
      @tenki_ ปีที่แล้ว

      he won tho????

    • @willguan7214
      @willguan7214 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@tenki_ doesn't mean he played well

    • @tenki_
      @tenki_ ปีที่แล้ว +14

      how good can he be to go 1/16 and win GIGASHY

    • @bingitybong6518
      @bingitybong6518 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      He was playing Sion he was obviously copying the real GOAT toplaner, thebausffs

    • @sishui9429
      @sishui9429 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He is, if not the mos studied player in LPL since 2018. I could see it's more or less the same case in Worlds. He single handily remade Top lane in pro play, through sheer skill, mechanics, wits, and this daunting play style, not through some meta champs, builds or stats. I respect him for that. If nothing else, at least he made it a bit more entertaining for viewers.

  • @minhnguyenan217
    @minhnguyenan217 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    To the kids who never know who The Shy was, having the privilege to watch The Shy in 2018 was a bless and remember about those memories always giving me a goosepump.

  • @zxcxzxc
    @zxcxzxc ปีที่แล้ว +8

    His play style never changes and that’s what makes him one of the goat toplaners

  • @ajd74
    @ajd74 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    TheShy should be able to finally get his MSI title this spring. He is playing with the the king of spring, Xiaohu, after all.
    Weibo will win spring, and then MSI.

    • @ajd74
      @ajd74 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I may be a delusional fan, but I think Weibo can be the best team in the world.

    • @nathanhosea489
      @nathanhosea489 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ajd74 Oh, they definitely can. It's not impossible, far from it, actually. They just need to be more consistent

    • @flyingpandaify
      @flyingpandaify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If Karsa plays like he's been playing then 100% possible. Looks like he found his form again. Xiaohu is legit one of the goats, legit right behind faker and rookie. Don't think he's had a really bad season.

    • @vincentvadaax1556
      @vincentvadaax1556 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flyingpandaify rookie is not a goat

    • @flyingpandaify
      @flyingpandaify ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vincentvadaax1556 lil bro trying to stir the pot

  • @allainangcao28
    @allainangcao28 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    TheShy’s Jayce no joke flat out abused G2. One of if not the biggest total damage split in Worlds history.

    • @milandjukic738
      @milandjukic738 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      damn i remember g2 getting destoryed

  • @drravikhanna1636
    @drravikhanna1636 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rookie and TheShy are best laners to ever play the game for their respective roles and the meta suited them in 2018 world's. After winning world's TheShy probably lost his hunger and just didn't care enough to stay at his peak form, being in relationship, having money etc does that to most pro player's.
    We might never see a Rookie/TheShy kind of dominant solo lanes ever again.

    • @21___dcy
      @21___dcy ปีที่แล้ว

      "Best laners" that is so delusional
      Best laner in mid has been chovy at 2018-2022 and faker at 2013 and 2015
      Best laner in top was kiin at 2018, marin 2015 and smeb 2016.
      Theshy was great but him played so well against europeans toplaners, a bit meh

    • @drravikhanna1636
      @drravikhanna1636 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@21___dcy Choby in an interview before 2019 match up with IG himself said he wishes he can lane like Rookie, every LPL mid considers Rookie the best laner and most Korean pros who play with him in soloq consider him the same. Chovys playstyle is more of lane farming. Rookie is taking aggressive trades every time and he wins most of the times, and gets Kane dominance that ways. I doubt you know more about league than Chovy himself.
      Peak ThyShy 2018-19 was best laner, only way to stop him was camping him. No one comes close to peak ThyShy in top lane.
      2013 Faker was great, 14 Pawn dominated him, go watch old LCK matches and PawN was dubbed Faker killer and in old PawN interviews he never gave zfaker godlike respect which every caster used to give.

    • @21___dcy
      @21___dcy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drravikhanna1636"choby" I never seen to chovy losing in mid and him has best reflexes. Rookie is great but never has been the best laner. Chovy said that for respect but you cant understand.
      Cmon theshy best laner against who? Yeah against europeans and chineses coinflip

    • @drravikhanna1636
      @drravikhanna1636 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@21___dcy Again you are missing the point, both Chovy and Rookie have different laning play style and they are the best in their respective style, Chovy plays dominates lane to farm, while Rookie plays to dominate lane by taking aggressive trades, in soloQ/scrims he takes every trade and more often than not wins as said in interviews by many pros.
      Rookies play style is a better version of how lane dominance works hence he gets the tag of best laner.
      Today's Rookie has dialled down a little on his play style and focuses more on roaming to get other lanes ahead but 2015-2020 Rookie was just too far ahead.

    • @shgalagalaa
      @shgalagalaa ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@21___dcy Chovy plays for cs and is the best at it. If you consider cs lead = winning lane or at worst even. Then yeah chovy never loses lane. Thats not really how the game works tho. If you are up 20 cs but have never moved from mid while the enemy laner has dove your bot 3x in 15min you are losing lane. Chovy single handedly lost the series vs t1 just yesterday by chilling mid as viktor while faker is running around on annie winning his team the game.

  • @ziyueguan3430
    @ziyueguan3430 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The reason so many people consider TheShy the best top laner in China, is because he ended the dark time of S5-S7. I mean those were the times that no one dared to do outplays. If they were behind, they would literally stay in the tower the whole day. TheShy completely changed the playstyles of LPL players. In my opinion no one can beat the 2018 IG (literally everyone was at their peak, and unlike most LPL teams, they dared to fight) so TS, Ning, Rookie, Jackeylove, Baolan. I mean particularly in the match against G2, in the river that 1 strike 4 with Aatrox Q3, that is why most people loved him.

  • @tuananh8124
    @tuananh8124 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the best toplaner of all time

  • @zeroxin7748
    @zeroxin7748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the channel! Keep up the good work man. Love writersthat go deeper on the individual players stories like you!

  • @pixelshot8684
    @pixelshot8684 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    always be my fav top pro player

  • @xxYoanxx1
    @xxYoanxx1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super happy to have found this channel, exactly the stuff I love! Instant sub from me, keep up the great work!

  • @loganlockett9037
    @loganlockett9037 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I genuinely think TheShy is hands down the greatest top laner of all time

    • @Jaybird9x
      @Jaybird9x ปีที่แล้ว

      Kingen is getting there for me. Theshy just has something else about him tho

  • @ikzerdox7253
    @ikzerdox7253 ปีที่แล้ว

    HE S BACK WITH WBG IT S SO NICE HE WILL BE BACK IN WORLDS

  • @QuincyJamesMusic
    @QuincyJamesMusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He's one of my Favorite players of all time, huge inspiration. For me, there's an argument that there haven't been as insanely innovative players as the likes The Shy, Khan and i'd mention Doinb.

  • @saintlysword1364
    @saintlysword1364 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arguably TheShy didn't reach his true peak as he had a hand injury that needed a surgery in 2018 spring.

  • @fdssdvs6405
    @fdssdvs6405 ปีที่แล้ว

    now the shy come back for the world champion again

  • @Ren10do
    @Ren10do 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1-16

  • @imtfanboy7173
    @imtfanboy7173 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in his prime best toplaner ever

  • @huytruong4894
    @huytruong4894 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol will never have a top lane like theshy again. he is a legend of top lane. in my heart and it's always fact. Theshy 2019 has crazy stats and nobody cant better than theshy 2019

  • @CxerRy96
    @CxerRy96 ปีที่แล้ว

    he's back at world's baby

  • @hoaang9455
    @hoaang9455 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still the most entertaining toplaner ever to watch I don’t care he 1/16 , cringe comments and social media said bad shit while none of them understand how draft works .He got countered pick because WBG need a good botlane matchup none of you said how he gap “BIN” in semi finals how a wasted player like TheShy can beat 1 of the best toplaner in the world he still the G.O.A.T in my heart ❤.

    • @realone-gp6is
      @realone-gp6is 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1-16

    • @hoaang9455
      @hoaang9455 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@realone-gp6is we all int one in while :))

    • @JenniferJoyFelizardo-ic4uq
      @JenniferJoyFelizardo-ic4uq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hoaang9455 atleast is not in competition xD

    • @hoaang9455
      @hoaang9455 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JenniferJoyFelizardo-ic4uq that his playstyle IG never left him

  • @phucnguyeninh7225
    @phucnguyeninh7225 ปีที่แล้ว

    You dont know. The shy joined WE as streamer before even old enough to compete

  • @mica2884
    @mica2884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TheShy is just the bet toplaner ever

    • @21___dcy
      @21___dcy ปีที่แล้ว

      Theshy carrer 2018-2020 and then 0/9 half of games but of course best top 🤣

    • @mica2884
      @mica2884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@21___dcy Which top peaked higher than him ? He carried a whole team to the title, u just haven't seen those worlds lol

    • @21___dcy
      @21___dcy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mica2884 so much toplaners, theshy played against europeans and chineses coinflip. When him played against smeb was meh

    • @mica2884
      @mica2884 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@21___dcy Smeb is the only one who can arguably be no1 over TheShy but he doesnt have a world title, and i still believe Theshy's peak was better

  • @bengidonus2761
    @bengidonus2761 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn seeing 2018 perkz still give me goosebumps what a legend

  • @matejalukovic7227
    @matejalukovic7227 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite player

  • @YuYuYuna_
    @YuYuYuna_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    TheShy is league's ultimate raid boss? Are we just dickriding cuz we are nostalgic or what. Objectively, factually, historically that is categorically just flat out wrong.
    Faker is, by all statistics and results, the ultimate raid boss. Outside of 2018 Worlds he has been washed.

  • @MylesTheDoctorMahajan
    @MylesTheDoctorMahajan ปีที่แล้ว

    One day, TheShy will win worlds again. and hopefully, when he does, HE ACTUALLY PLAYED RIVEN AT LEAST ONCE DURING THE FUCKIGN TOURNAMENT SO RIOT CANT CUCK HIM OUT OF A RIVEN WORLDS SKIN BECAUSE FUCK. HE PROBABLY IS SALTY AF THAT HE DIDNT PLAY RIVEN AT LEAST ONCE AGAINST FNATIC IN 2018. just toss a game, but not really because its /TheShy's/ riven. they named a fucking combo after him hes so god damn brilliant. now forever forced to watch the Excalibur riven sword in the fiora recall.

  • @koks49045
    @koks49045 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought this video was gonna be about shy from azubu 2012/13 kek

  • @rakansasas1111
    @rakansasas1111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I don't think IG was even actually a good team. They could demolish every oponent based on pure skill and aggressiveness. No big macro plays needed, no adapation to the enemies. Just destroy everyone before they can react. It is actually amazing that they managed to win worlds based just on that, but they did. And Rookie and TheShy were the key players of that huge skill gap.

  • @yoshiko4049
    @yoshiko4049 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    caedrel must see this video

  • @azrrrrrrrr
    @azrrrrrrrr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool concept for a video but i feel like when your narration should be at its highest(theshy smashing other teams) you wen completly different way and said it so low. Just my opinion! But cool video!

    • @cinematicesports
      @cinematicesports  ปีที่แล้ว

      I see what you're saying. I will take note of that for next time! Thank you

    • @whysmile9412
      @whysmile9412 ปีที่แล้ว

      can i add to maybe put good bgm on important parts for emphasis

  • @av-vl5nf
    @av-vl5nf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    caps vid next please

  • @BlueFoxGaming
    @BlueFoxGaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zeus clapped him

  • @PhillipMorris758
    @PhillipMorris758 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was pretty good

  • @painhatesad
    @painhatesad ปีที่แล้ว

    the goat fr

  • @symeo.n
    @symeo.n ปีที่แล้ว

    Atm he's toplane's hylissang kind of

  • @sojourner2x
    @sojourner2x ปีที่แล้ว

    theshy was the goat

  • @peepeepoopoo5646
    @peepeepoopoo5646 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Super Shy

  • @MauriceGucci
    @MauriceGucci ปีที่แล้ว

    Peak 2018 iG is maybe the best team to ever play league.

  • @dasurmel1424
    @dasurmel1424 ปีที่แล้ว +596

    both rookie and theshy got a bit forgotten cause their teams arent that good anymore. while theshy is just a bit insane rookie might have been the goat if he got better teammates around him. ive never seen such an absurd skillgap as in worlds 2018. both bwipo and caps got hyped during worlds and legit got schooled.

    • @cinematicesports
      @cinematicesports  ปีที่แล้ว +99

      Definitely agree. People who don't know the game's history won't realize just how rare it is for two solo-laners to dominate the way they did for an entire tournament.

    • @edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262
      @edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Nope, it's just forgotten by the western community, cause for some reason LPL isn't popular among western audiences. Don't forget, The Shy has been awarded the most popular top laner in LPL fans for several years now since his 2018 Worlds win.

    • @anaepeot
      @anaepeot ปีที่แล้ว +7

      you did not watch worlds 2017?

    • @jacobsumner3694
      @jacobsumner3694 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Rookie has been great the past year. V5 was doing quite well for a while, and Rookie has been looking super good.

    • @Rubricate
      @Rubricate ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I still think Rookie is one of the best, if not THE best mid laner in the LPL, he always shows up, consistent, I just think he falls short when it matters, somehow. But, I don't think he's gotten any worse.

  • @imnotjesper
    @imnotjesper ปีที่แล้ว +174

    I remember a Perkz interview where he said something like: On a different day, they could have won against 2019 FPX. But if they had played against 2018 iG 100 times, they would have lost 100 times.

    • @cinematicesports
      @cinematicesports  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I could believe that

    • @SilencedButNotForgotten
      @SilencedButNotForgotten ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People really forget that FNC beat them twice in groups or what? 😂

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@SilencedButNotForgotten FNC tiebreaker was against Duke.
      Also, Fnatic was a significantly stronger team than G2 in 2018. Hjärnan + Wadid were no match for Rekkles + Hyli. Caps was better than Perkz. Broxah was peaking, although Jankos is ofc more consistent.

    • @mlgbblade5221
      @mlgbblade5221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m pretty sure he was talking about 2020 damwon not 2018ig, and it makes sense he was comparing 2020 damwon with 2019 fpx because he faced both teams with the exact same g2 roaster, 2018 g2 didn’t have the same roaster (not even caps)

  • @Omosisthefuture
    @Omosisthefuture ปีที่แล้ว +208

    I still remember what he did to Wunder and Bwipo in 2018. That man was a raid boss at worlds.

  • @edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262
    @edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262 ปีที่แล้ว +770

    His peak is also the peak of top lane in the whole pro league history.

    • @fussysaur
      @fussysaur ปีที่แล้ว +75

      has an argument for highest peak in general in league history, he legit made fun of the entire league at his best

    • @nathanhosea489
      @nathanhosea489 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@fussysaur It's between him and Faker 2017 imo. My vote still goes to Faker 2017, though. Feel free to ask why

    • @olejakobaune8033
      @olejakobaune8033 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nathanhosea489 I'd say highest peak in League history is Imp & Mata

    • @yblue6116
      @yblue6116 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanhosea489 why

    • @adamskibrapmanlolage
      @adamskibrapmanlolage ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rookie also, he completely stomped everyone else

  • @nathanhosea489
    @nathanhosea489 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    Unless Zeus and YSKM keep on improving at a dramatic rate, it will take a very long time for us to get the top laner who will surpass the peak TheShy had. He was just that good.

    • @soul0172
      @soul0172 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      If you mean compared to the others at the time sure, but in terms of individual strength, Zeus currently is the best toplaner that has existed

    • @johwwa
      @johwwa ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@soul0172 I believe that mechanically nuguri was untouchable, he just inted wayyy too much

    • @ariel_801
      @ariel_801 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@johwwa yess Nuguri on carries was peak even on Fpx before they mentally imploded.

    • @siddhanthgoyal5820
      @siddhanthgoyal5820 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      YSKM has had a few good games. He’s definitely not in the same convo as The Shy, or even Zeus, as of now.

    • @MeLlamoBauti
      @MeLlamoBauti ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@soul0172ah yes,zeus,the dude who singlehandledly made t1 lose worlds last year lmao

  • @jonnysith
    @jonnysith ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Honestly, out of the the players and playstyles. TheShy is THE most entertaining to watch. He has the balls to do what no other player will do. Success or failure I just love his style.

    • @jimmykudo11
      @jimmykudo11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly... Pure Aggressive playstyle in the Top lane.

    • @damiester1
      @damiester1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Him and Jackeylove on 1 team is just a crazy experience lol

    • @quanganhbui1044
      @quanganhbui1044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now imagine a team with TheShy, MLXG, Jizuke, Jackeylove, and Hang lmao. 0 brake team.

    • @Biginjapanx
      @Biginjapanx ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@quanganhbui1044that team would go undefeated or winless, no inbetween

  • @ShadowAngelS2K
    @ShadowAngelS2K ปีที่แล้ว +57

    As we speak he started 2023 in a monster form. Then in his recent 5 games he went 2/25, it’s sucha shame because everyone knows TheShy is probably the scariest player in the world when he is in top form.

    • @21___dcy
      @21___dcy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scariest for europeans but for the rest is meh

    • @noelbate505
      @noelbate505 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@21___dcy if TheShy is in peak form that man is definitely the scariest toplaner in the world and it's not even close, everyone thinks that 369 was good last year 2018 TheShy was way better

    • @robertmusil1107
      @robertmusil1107 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Never doubt TheGod

  • @azen4184
    @azen4184 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    He was underrated in 2019 , he and jackeylove single handedly carried a out of form ig to worlds that year. In spring 2019 , the shy was undefeatable in lane and if not for the team issue , they would have won both Msi and worlds

    • @itachi60001
      @itachi60001 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      yep, and in msi they were just plagued by internal issues apparently, but watching ig in spring 2019 looked like ig was playing the game at 2x speed and every other team was playing in 1x speed, and i also think its not fair to pin the failure to carry against fpx solely on him given the fact that he was the only reason they were still in the game at that point.

  • @kstixx7575
    @kstixx7575 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude for the love of god, SHOW DO NOT TELL !
    Ur video is legit a podcast, the text is good don't get me wrong but you lost SO MUCH opportunity to show that your video is nothing more than a slideshow. (When you talk about one of the most EPIC toplaner.
    For example you talked about theshy playing a lot of toplaner.. ah yeah cool, why didn't you show us His well know kalistat top ? we almost only saw aatrox and sion. WHY?
    I'm glad youtube algorithme is starting to put new channel on the radar but my dude, if you wanna get on top you'r gonna have to create a VIDEO, not an audio book.

  • @Walker-gr4bj
    @Walker-gr4bj ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "THE CROWNLESS ARE FINALLY KINGS!" still get chills :)

  • @milandjukic738
    @milandjukic738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    imo the best top league ever had. Rookie could have been best ever if he had a bit help from team..

  • @charlewill9346
    @charlewill9346 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    2018 IG is my favorite team by far.

  • @Kasijas
    @Kasijas ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everyone talking bout 2018 Theshy but y’all forgot about 2019. No pro players in LPL can name a player that would beat him in lane. Dude dominated every single one of them.

    • @gold9994
      @gold9994 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even now, but he's too easily ganked.

  • @bolbolzaboon
    @bolbolzaboon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well he definitely proved your theory at 2023 world championship final.

  • @bloopblob
    @bloopblob ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Gotta love TheShy, one of my favorite players of all time.

  • @cookxol579
    @cookxol579 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Aged like milk lmao

  • @nope7200
    @nope7200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    theshy changed the entire lpl changing top laners from simply being a tank and playing slow to being a carry

    • @codino97
      @codino97 ปีที่แล้ว

      no he didnt, gogoing was playing carries in season 3 and 4 like nidalee, ryze, kassadin pdd was playing j4 and vlad in season 2,

  • @thecharismaticengicm
    @thecharismaticengicm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dare i say TheShys peak is the highest of any player ever. Maybe 2018 Uzi and 2015 Faker comes close in terms of legacy id still rank smeb 1 spot above theshy but prime alone i think its rly undispuitable

  • @PHILLYMEDIC69
    @PHILLYMEDIC69 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    he is still very very good. Super oppressive in lane but his style is super meta dependent.

    • @حمزةهشام-ك9ط
      @حمزةهشام-ك9ط ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont totally agree , like somtimes u see theshy pull very unexpected picks , but on the other hand I remember that he once said that he picks whatever the coach says as he can play any top champ

    • @Dudu-qt1zu
      @Dudu-qt1zu ปีที่แล้ว

      This year there’s no really good games to go with the ints he always had. Now it’s just ints and he’s a liability to his team if he’s playing anything other than sion who can be rlly useful despite gold/xp deficit

  • @Gullyeon
    @Gullyeon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    how relevant this is after just losing worlds finals

  • @bastianvalero4612
    @bastianvalero4612 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really well put! I remember really well that semis against FPX he was carrying IG at their first win and in game 4 they fell short and he blundered a couple times, later on FPX won it all. That's The Shy 🤷‍♂, but he still remains as my fav player with Rookie, cuz they won Worlds by smashing their opponents, in my opinion that hasn't happened again, you could say Nuguri and SM(didn't win worlds by having this exact playstyle) or Kingen and Zeka(They destroyed some lanes, but not too much, only Zeka vs Scout)

  • @FilledWithDetermination
    @FilledWithDetermination ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Prime TheShy turned counterplay into advantage state, shiet was unreal to watch. It was like he would wait for his opposing laner to be at their most confident and that was when he would strike. High risk high reward, beat your opponent at their best and what do they tell themselves after that? "We fought when the odds were stacked in my favor and he still won, what more can I possibly do?" And you could see in the play of the opposing top lane their confidence was gone, it was no longer about winning it was about survival.

  • @jouzu2477
    @jouzu2477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I stopped watching competitive for a while and was in disbelief seeing TheShy violated by Zeus in a Worlds final

  • @GinkgoPete
    @GinkgoPete ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the going theory that TheShy just got bored and is just playing like a complete coinflip player because he just tries whatever.
    His cockiness during some series in this video kind of supports that theory.

  • @pgcorps3901
    @pgcorps3901 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wunder think he can win The shy is still the funniest thing ever

  • @estebanjulioricardomontoya4524
    @estebanjulioricardomontoya4524 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Either you get the God Theshy or Troll Theshy. My guy is the epitome of coinflip

  • @omniambitionsbadediting6765
    @omniambitionsbadediting6765 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TheShy still has one of the most dominant laning phase in the world, he just often int with his macro plays. If he gets ganked, he somehow doesn't lose much cs. If he doesn't get ganked, he can get a gold lead so large that he becomes a raid boss once more.

  • @AofCastle
    @AofCastle ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought you'd mention the 0/14 in a playoffs (or Worlds qualifier? I don't remember) on kennen. But the video was great nonetheless.
    I hope we see Weibo at Worlds this year, just to see how they fare

    • @cinematicesports
      @cinematicesports  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I think we all want to see TheShy back at Worlds!

  • @fabiopino5496
    @fabiopino5496 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good video, high quality direction and editing, good voiceover. My only advise would be shifting the focus from the ig team performance to the actual theshy matchups and gameplay. apart for that really liked this video, keep it up

  • @thebestteacher7466
    @thebestteacher7466 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    theshy and zeus are similar in skill level but the one things zeus had that theshy dont, is team mate he can trust

  • @Linkingx2
    @Linkingx2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not what I expected as a video - sure very well done mini doku - probs bro
    good job
    and maybe its my wrong expectation, but instead of really asking the question who good he was - you went over the history of the player - and repeated the common consensus of that time; which again is a neat thing in a doku for newer players/viewers; but I thought you would rather question, was he really that good - what about the team, meta - opponents etc.
    looking for holes in the established opinion - and then compare that to his achievements or playstyle - maybe analyze how he dominated lane (certain match ups etc.)
    but I guess you are doing "cinematic" dokus - story building etc. - so again my bad - but hay had fun these 12min
    keep up the great work - looked at your channel and nearly all videos look interesting - good titels and topics :)
    have a good one m8

  • @mikielgrato5705
    @mikielgrato5705 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it was recently revealed that he was actually suffering in a toxic work environment and the pressure to perform was getting to him. watch the interview before the 1st game in the lpl this season

  • @EverTruu
    @EverTruu ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've always thought that Mata and Dandy's worlds performance in s4 worlds is still the among the best tournament peaks in history, and I honestly feel that way about ZEKA's now too.

    • @flyingpandaify
      @flyingpandaify ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Zeka is what BDD wanted to be for the last few years.

  • @tomding7938
    @tomding7938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually Theshy had never reach his biggest possibility, starting form 2018, he was one of the best to laner at that time, then surprisingly int he next year, he becomes the most domonanting top laner in the League of Legends history pro plays. Most importantly, he achived these with an arm injury which seirously impacts his movements. At last just take a second and imagine how it looks like if he actually had the chance to redeem every piece of his talent

  • @peterenis3507
    @peterenis3507 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That ig kt game 3 end was still the craziest moment i ever witnessed in lol history
    i literally jumped up and screamed FUCK cause i was for kt but then i saw they actually won
    INSANITY
    the shy had the highest mechanical peak in lol ever compared to his role tbh he was THE RAID BOSS

  • @vigilantstranger6130
    @vigilantstranger6130 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hindsight is 20/20 but having The shy and Jackeylove on the same team is just asking to get Inted ever few games.

    • @shgalagalaa
      @shgalagalaa ปีที่แล้ว

      jkl been one of the most consistent adcs in lpl for past two seasons + was the only member on test performing at worlds. But I guess you just don't watch their games and just parrot reddit opinions that are formed based on 1 clip from a losing game :D

    • @vigilantstranger6130
      @vigilantstranger6130 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shgalagalaa brother read and stop jumping to conclusions. I said every few games as in he doesn't always int same with The shy he doesn't always int but when he does he really ints

  • @RickertBrandsen
    @RickertBrandsen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    as of 11.13.2023- TheShy will meet Zeus in the finals of Worlds... WBG vs T1, what a banger.

  • @team3am149
    @team3am149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2018 KT had zero GOATs of their roles.

  • @DanVSGames
    @DanVSGames ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video, one of the greatest players out there.

  • @TheMiiieep
    @TheMiiieep ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The video/editing quality is amazing and the narration is superb! Great work, you deserve a lot more subs!

  • @Subchesire
    @Subchesire ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TheShy is inting his games right now in LPL funny enough lol

    • @cinematicesports
      @cinematicesports  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, at least he's playing team fights well sometimes

  • @xicor7952
    @xicor7952 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Soooooo...... 1/16/5 O_O

  • @winter7885
    @winter7885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damwon had higher ceiling if you ask me

  • @Paddythelaad
    @Paddythelaad ปีที่แล้ว

    So funny how IG got wrecked by TL, who than got speedrun by G2. Its like if you pick Viktor you lose, FNC lost to IG with Viktor, The pattern is so strong even IG lost to TL with Viktor.

  • @Illidandavid
    @Illidandavid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's why it's always a thrill to watch theshy play, you never know what you are gonna get.
    Watching Faker? You dang know what's in store for you.
    He is basically the reverse of the: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?" meme
    as in
    "How many times does this old man have to teach you this lesson?"
    Not like I don't semi-religiously watch SKT games, all I'm saying is that the expectations are different.

  • @intifadayuri
    @intifadayuri ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That 2019 was such a hype tournament, both G2 vs SKT and IG vs TL were massive upsets that will be remembered in history

  • @pyroboss3099
    @pyroboss3099 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not very good tbh he's decent but they mainly won worlds bcz fnatic went afk at finals fnatic was the best team at worlds then and the way they beat ig in the stage before that rlly showed they could stomp ig 9 times out of 10 but ofc they didn't show up at all at finals xD

  • @teemomain1238
    @teemomain1238 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Trash in the world 2023 finals

    • @hoaang9455
      @hoaang9455 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Still beat the craps out of Bin :)) stfu kid

  • @rlagusrlagus
    @rlagusrlagus ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember the griffin drama. griffin basically doing everything in its power to not have doran subbed on. justice 4 chovy

  • @emillarsson1299
    @emillarsson1299 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you use a clip from the wrong year at 1:23 when discussing how good TheShy was at the time? Seems disingenuous at best, ignorant at worst :)

  • @Paddythelaad
    @Paddythelaad ปีที่แล้ว

    IG wins the first 2 against KT, then the shy ignores his coach and they lose :p. Also they didn't really tear them to pieces if they lost a game.

  • @ivanrado3430
    @ivanrado3430 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peoole can glorify him as much as he want. He maybe is top 5, but top are definitely Smeb and Marin.

  • @panhradu
    @panhradu ปีที่แล้ว

    IG did not loose because of TheShy plying bad but because DoinB outsmarting everybody.

  • @glizzygobbler2810
    @glizzygobbler2810 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1-14 lol

  • @hikennoace4428
    @hikennoace4428 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hes my favourite pro toplaner or player and he always will be.

  • @N3oFlame
    @N3oFlame ปีที่แล้ว

    GIGASHY - Shout out to Caedrel for making me a TheShy fan

  • @devilbhrothesavage2807
    @devilbhrothesavage2807 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funnily enough Soaz in game 3 was pretty good in reducing TheShys impact on the game. Ning, Rookie and JKL carried that game 3 and they prolly wouldve won that particular game with any other toplaner.

    • @climtz
      @climtz ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah you are understimating Wayward's ability to rundown

  • @turbanheadless
    @turbanheadless ปีที่แล้ว

    even in wbg this is evident. they smash JDG then lose to omg. spring split was the same

  • @yuxuan93loh
    @yuxuan93loh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most overrated top laner