What If Quebec Voted Yes ?

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    Why did Quebec hold two referendums, and what would have happened if they had voted yes? In this video, we dive deep into the history of Quebec's 1980 and 1995 referendums, exploring the reasons behind these significant events and the potential impact of a "yes" vote on Quebec and Canada.
    Discover the political, cultural, and economic factors that led to these crucial votes. Learn about the key figures, the campaigns, and the aftermath of the referendums. We also discuss hypothetical scenarios, analyzing how Quebec's independence might have reshaped the region and the country.
    Keywords: Quebec referendums, Quebec independence, 1980 referendum, 1995 referendum, Quebec sovereignty, Canadian history, political history, Quebec separation, Canada politics, what if Quebec voted yes, Quebec nationalism, Rene Levesque, Jacques Parizeau, Lucien Bouchard, Canada-Quebec relations, Quebecois culture, Canadian unity, historical analysis, referendum outcomes, Quebec referendum documentary
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  • @GeoNerd.
    @GeoNerd.  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

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  • @hansdupuis8263
    @hansdupuis8263 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Vive le Québec libre!

  • @daveh893
    @daveh893 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I remember having this discussion with my sister-in-law who said that in our younger years no one could imagine Germany becoming one country and Canada becoming two!

  • @PatrioteQuebecois
    @PatrioteQuebecois 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thanks for your open question at the end. As Quebeckers, we are often ignored about questions affecting our own future as if others were better to choose for us. The French of France say they know better. The Supreme court of Canada and Trudeau's government say they represent us, etc.
    Up to a few years before now, we have had a moderate politcal culture that is entrenched in all of us. We make unanimous motion in the National Assembly just to have is ignored in Ottawa since we don't count.
    There are more differences between Quebec and the rest of Canada than between France and Germany for instance who agree on much more issues. Quebec would work better as an independent country and Canada as well. The official language of Quebec would be French and the official language of Canada without Quebec would be English. It would be in each other's interest to cooperate and have a common policy when dealing with third countries.
    However, internally, we would advance much more on all issues. Canada would be more conservative and Quebec would never block Canadian internal politics anymore.

    • @PatrioteQuebecois
      @PatrioteQuebecois 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@guyl9456 en effet, la "culture canadienne" est de la pure fabulation.

  • @Sebastienpoliquin
    @Sebastienpoliquin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    VIVE le Québec libre et indépendant plus que Jamais.

  • @perrysturgeon
    @perrysturgeon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'd be happy 😊

    • @dukenukem9450
      @dukenukem9450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      moi avec mon chum

  • @WeirdAwesomeGeography
    @WeirdAwesomeGeography 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video!

    • @GeoNerd.
      @GeoNerd.  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @Habebandebardown
    @Habebandebardown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    One day... un quebec libre

    • @Poodleoop
      @Poodleoop 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can’t wait

    • @dukenukem9450
      @dukenukem9450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Poodleoop nous avec batince...

    • @azamatbagatov4324
      @azamatbagatov4324 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I also cant wait - an Albertan

  • @chillwatercatch
    @chillwatercatch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sovereignty association lookin real good for all Canadian provinces right now. Would be nice if Canada was more of an EU situation.

  • @AlexaDeWit
    @AlexaDeWit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I double taked really hard at the pronunciation of Levesque's name. A considerable effort to both look up the correct pronunciation and make a stab at it. Solid effort

    • @GeoNerd.
      @GeoNerd.  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Je n’ai pas de problème à dire René Lévesque! Sometimes switching languages is a bit of a tongue twister aside from that no need to look up anything 😎😅

    • @AlexaDeWit
      @AlexaDeWit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GeoNerd. Ah! Well that explains a bit!

    • @stephanelevesque5745
      @stephanelevesque5745 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GeoNerd. it's not bad at all every one outside of Quebec they call me levesske WTF

  • @Benjamin_Bratten
    @Benjamin_Bratten 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    As an Ontarian who lived in Montreal for many years, I selfishly want Quebec to remain on the basis that, aside from the Maritime provinces, it's the only province with any real cultural identity of its own and Canada would be poorer without them.

    • @claudelalonde1732
      @claudelalonde1732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      you said it... selfishly. I really like to see more anglos show solidarity to Québec's independence

    • @PSNDonutDude
      @PSNDonutDude 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@claudelalonde1732I'm an Ontarian that thinks Quebec should have separated. I think it should have an open border and movement like the EU. A new form of government should be created like a Canadian Union. The dollar should be shared, but Quebec should have its own government, and be it's own country. The EU is better for having smaller countries and I truly believe Canada would actually be better off separate from Quebec, and Quebec would be better too. I believe a big issue in Canada and the US is how large the countries are and they issues that arise from that.

    • @AlexaDeWit
      @AlexaDeWit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@claudelalonde1732complicated feelings as a Québec resident Anglo.
      The fear of having a brexit experience if done wrong is not a great ideal. But sovereignty I'm all for. (I vote qs)

    • @claudelalonde1732
      @claudelalonde1732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PSNDonutDude I agree

    • @claudelalonde1732
      @claudelalonde1732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AlexaDeWit Merci beaucoup

  • @Tats2020
    @Tats2020 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i used to think it would be bad for Quebec to leave but i have changed my mind on this one. If the rest of Canada could stay together it would be better off financially and cultural without Quebec. although it might have led to a deep economic recession and who knows may be other parts of Canada would have decided to slit off and join the USA. it could have started a process of change that could have had the USA getting most or all of the rest of Canada.

  • @TheLyonsDen65
    @TheLyonsDen65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I grew up in Montreal and was present for both referendums. While I was glad that no won, I still ended up leaving for Ontario in 96. I also had changed my mind on the situation and felt that a Yes vote was likely the only thing that would ever settle the divisive politics that existed in Quebec. So many businesses left or moved their headquarters. The St. Jean Baptist society would also harass small business owners to the point where they felt leaving the province was the only viable solution. Laws were changed that put such a financial burden onto the retailer; forcing many niche businesses to relocate to Ontario or elsewhere. When I left St. Catherine St. was a ghost town with so many storefronts closed and boarded up.

    • @claudelalonde1732
      @claudelalonde1732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, you are talking about the past.

    • @Habebandebardown
      @Habebandebardown 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the No side having shady tactics created resentment, like sponsorgate... the federal gov dosent even declassify the documents about the No side in 1995 to this day :/

    • @cyprn6600
      @cyprn6600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@claudelalonde1732 Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. that being said Quebec's economy is stronger than in the 90s and construction on St Cath already killed the small businesses that were there lol

    • @Darkdragon5544
      @Darkdragon5544 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      St-Catherine street may be iconic, but it is just a small street. Québec is so much more

    • @claudelalonde1732
      @claudelalonde1732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cyprn6600 I remember the past, and I know about Canada-Québec relations are not changing. Nothing is settled. The same questions keeps coming back.

  • @passatboi
    @passatboi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing I can’t reckon with is the gap between Ontario and the Maritimes. I don’t know how that would work. There are a few countries with exclaves, like Alaska, but none that big. Alaska accounts for 0.2% of the US population. The Maritimes are 5% of Canada‘s (current) population. If you removed Quebec, that percentage would be higher. I don’t think the rest of Canada could maintain cohesion if there weren’t a land connection between them.

  • @nickd4310
    @nickd4310 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think Quebec would have agreed to sovereignty association as envisioned by Levesque. Everything would have remained the same, but Quebec would have a different colour on the map. It was also have allowed them to negotiate federal-provincial divisions of power. However, Quebec has not asked to take on any federal powers.

  • @paulfhoffman
    @paulfhoffman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Quebexit? If Quebec seceded, Alberta would follow and the country would fall apart.

  • @dez7800
    @dez7800 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:00 I would also add the rise of the first french canadian middle class that came with Desjardins (access to credit) and the creation of the Université du Québec (Public universities spread all across Québec). Before the quiet revolution french canadians were almost totally financially poor and uneducated.

    • @GeoNerd.
      @GeoNerd.  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes! The révolution tranquille itself could be a one hour documentary! Maybe one day 😉

    • @medenos9683
      @medenos9683 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Financialy poor yeah sure. Culturally poor I couldn't agree less.

    • @dez7800
      @dez7800 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@medenos9683 I should of specified. Culturally poor in the sense that they were uneducated, that they didn't have access to a large portion of cultural content because of their lack of education and because the church prohibited it. A large majority of french canadians did not have access to education, and were functionally illiterate.

  • @hagron5702
    @hagron5702 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bonjour. Don't put that guy on the thumbnail, he doesn't represent Canadians nor Quebeckers, he's representing himself.

  • @fittobetiedyed5315
    @fittobetiedyed5315 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    A yes would vote would be a victory for the rest of Canada.

    • @fittobetiedyed5315
      @fittobetiedyed5315 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottjet5308 In the 24 years I've lived in BC I've met one French person, and she was an immigrant from France.

  • @AndreaWalter-g9e
    @AndreaWalter-g9e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh I remember that. On a trip I want to Quebec just after it did not go through. The ones I talked to seemed to blame it on the "immigrants". - Yes as they have not lived in this amazing country that they choose to come to - they were just so happy to be a Canadian.

  • @zacharyscott2298
    @zacharyscott2298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quebec would have been partitioned and seriously reduced in size. English Canada would not have needed thejr consent.

    • @bearjo11
      @bearjo11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is the basis for that? Do you know their history?

    • @zacharyscott2298
      @zacharyscott2298 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bearjo11 lol English Canada is the dominant military, economic, and sovereign power. Quebec is not. English Canada could also weaponize Indian treaties, Quebec signed none. The historical borders of new France are much smaller, they were given vast swaths of land to join confederation. Yes, I know the history.

  • @Jesusholmes64
    @Jesusholmes64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One thing Quebecers and the rest of Canada share is our hate for Justin Trudeau, it has united us like never before

    • @cyprn6600
      @cyprn6600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not really. this will mean next govt will be conservative which historically have not been very popular in Quebec. Would be fun to see Bloc Québécois as official opposition tho.

    • @Jesusholmes64
      @Jesusholmes64 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cyprn6600 more popular than ever before, so yes really... tabernak

  • @jackfordon7735
    @jackfordon7735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    J'aimerais bien voir une telle vidéo faite en français.

  • @R005t3r
    @R005t3r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All I can say is, bonne chance and adieu.

  • @Metalblaze124
    @Metalblaze124 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One could only hope we could finally be free of laurentian politics. The removal of french language from anglo Canada will allow many average Canadians to be free of the very negative effects from the Quebecois separatists. They consistently vote in personal interest while simultaneously playing both sides to their advantage using their "national heritage" which is of course NOT inherently Canadian. I for one would be happy if they seperated.

    • @cyprn6600
      @cyprn6600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol are those very real negative effects in the room with us? Quebec culture IS the Canadian culture. Of course you would deny it's significance because all you have is the "post-national" nonsense given to you by Trudeau.

    • @SekelQc
      @SekelQc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Not inherently Canadians haha dude wtf . We are actually the real Canadians. You are just Americans pretending to be Canadian.
      And before you all say: no no natives are the real Canadians. No, natives were here before the creation of canada by the french so they are not canadian either

    • @edouardcote2960
      @edouardcote2960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Le nom de ton pays, ton hymne national, ton sirop d'érable et ta poutine, ça vient toute de nous buddy.

  • @LostAgain-i1k
    @LostAgain-i1k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    United

  • @Kyle-ou2tc
    @Kyle-ou2tc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alberta definitely would not have been inspired to leave Canada by Quebec leaving. In fact, it would have been the exact opposite. As an English speaking region whose citizens are largely gatekept out of federal government jobs or positions of power based on not being bilingual, turning Canada into a unilingual English speaking country would have eliminated one of the largest persistent causes of Western Alienation.

  • @tarunm4534
    @tarunm4534 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    China and India should influence quebec s freedom movement...similarly canada support khalistan

  • @doug729
    @doug729 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Their share of the national debt would be 90% as Quebec has always had transfer payments way above whatbthey were due. Why is daycare so cheap in Quebec? Because Albertans work hard.. Don't get me wrong, I worked 25 years in Quebec, I'm a Habs fan. This not Quebecs fault, this is the fault of corrupot federal politics.

    • @medenos9683
      @medenos9683 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's Quebec and Ontario that subsidized the west at first though.

    • @cyprn6600
      @cyprn6600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      daycare is cheap in quebec because it's one of the most heavily taxed provinces in all Canada

    • @bauch69
      @bauch69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dont get me wrong but the only reason why Albertans can work hard is because Ontario and Quebec were there first and paid alot of money to finance the Albertan economy and specialy, the oil industry. Blame your Provincial Government for putting all their eggs in the same basket since the creation of the oil industry . Now they are all crying because the whole world is about to shift from oil to renewable energy

  • @pewpew518
    @pewpew518 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More than half of Canadas population is in Ontario. Quebec has what 8M people? If Quebec leaves i recon half of the people would move to Canada and leave Quebec. Obvious all the 'No' voters would leave Quebec. That leaves Quebec with 4-5M people. How do you run a country with 5M people? Not to mention Quebec would lose 15B$ of hush money they get every year. They would also lose countless doctors, nurses, mechanics I mean you name it. Quebec would entirely be depended on Canada but without any of the economical support and activity they get currently. This just shows how utterly idiotic this independent Quebec idea is.

    • @medenos9683
      @medenos9683 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Est-ce si idiot de vouloir voir mon peuple exister? Est-ce si idiot de vouloir voir mon peuple représenté et rayonner à l'international pour sa distinction? Pas parce que nous sommes meilleurs ou pire mais seulement puisque nous sommes distinct et méritons le droit à l'existence et l'auto-détermination.
      I really doubt that everyone that votes no would leave for the RoC. A lot of them don't know english and most of them have family members, friends and collegues that would want to stay in an independent Québec.
      Has for the population you might wanna check out a couple of independent country like Iceland which has a lot less people than Quebec and still are independent country.
      To call nearly half of the population's aspirations "idiotic" because you have an extremely economically centered view of the world seems at best disrespectful at worst outright racist.

    • @cyprn6600
      @cyprn6600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      there would be no such thing, at worst they would suffer a recession. all the banks already dipped to Ontario the last time it got serious.

    • @cyprn6600
      @cyprn6600 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ontario is 38% of Canada demographically, which certainly not "more than half". Could say close to half but even then 10% is not satistically insignificant.

    • @edouardcote2960
      @edouardcote2960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Realistically maybe 2% of people would leave, 90% of them being in the West Island.

    • @MBR4740
      @MBR4740 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Several European countries have populations of 8 million, 5 million, 3 million, etc so Quebec could be a country. However, it would probably never happen. Quebec has been basically turning inward and pursuing their own French-only culture.
      Why separate when you can continue to live off extensive annual transfer payments paid by the citizens of other Canadian Provinces, where billions of dollars of Hydro revenues are Excluded from the annual equalization formula, but where Western Canadian energy sector is not excluded. Financially speaking, the rest of Canada, especially Western Canada, would be much better off without Quebec. Bon Voyage and Bon Chance.