This video has been sped up, if only these systems were this fast. Looking at the space taken up by the shuttles, the only benefit over conventional multi-deck parking is the slightly tighter sideways stacking, and a marginal saving on floor height. Unfortunately car lifts and shuttles are this technology's Achilles heel, they only transport one car at a time. It can take >3 minutes between the time a car leaves the exit enclosure and the next car is brought down: this excludes time taken to enter the correct info on the keypad, store one's shopping, retrieving a rear car from a tandem bay (the car closest to the aisle must first be removed and stored elsewhere), new arrivals correctly positioning their car in the entrance enclosure etc. Clearing a 60-car system can take >3 hours if using one car lift, staff finishing work at 5PM don't want to wait until 8PM before finally driving out. Alternative technology is available, yet solution providers cling to old one-car-at-a-time systems.
I think someone floated the idea in another article that you'd make the waiting rooms pleasant, with free coffee and music and a plaza. that would solve a lot of issues! People don't mind waiting when it's a pretty square
pretty cool system. 2 questions. how do you get your car back is there a special code or ticket you have to scan? & what if the system breaks down how is the car retrieved if the system should break down?
That never happens, what is more likely to happen is all in/out bays get stuck. That has happened to me more than a few times. It usually takes a few hours to get the engineers onsite to fix. Yet I still go back, still faster and safer than humans.
StK Reidy siiiigh ok, I'll explain it. Power goes out. You got somewhere to be but can't get there because your car is being held hostage. Unlike a power outage in a traditional garge where you still just leave. Hope that cleared it up for you.
do this if you want to insist on rejecting public transport and walkable cities (looking at you USA) - however: reduces the problem of wasted space, effective and just cool tech
Why do they need so much light in the garage if there are no people? There is surely a potential carbon saving by having the parking operated by machines like this
What happens if multiple people all come out at once? Happens all the time in my valet job. Think 10-15 people times 2 minutes, and you easily wait 20-30 minutes! I might be wrong but cant it only retrieve one car at a time? This would equal long wait times...
@Brian Hutchinson, good observation, nobody seems to give cycle times any thought until the installed system fails to perform as promised (Google Brickell House Robotic Parking). I mentioned your concern in an earlier post: "Unfortunately car lifts and shuttles are this technology's Achilles heel, they only transport one car at a time. 2 minutes is being very optimistic, it can easily take >3 minutes between the time a car leaves the exit enclosure and the next car is brought down: this excludes time taken to enter the correct info on the keypad, store one's shopping, retrieving a rear car from a tandem bay (the car closest to the aisle must first be removed and stored elsewhere), new arrivals correctly positioning their car in the entrance enclosure etc. Clearing a 60-car system can take >3 hours if using one car lift, staff finishing work at 5PM don't want to wait until 8PM before finally driving out. Alternative technology is available, yet solution providers cling to old one-car-at-a-time systems."
They should have some type of app where you can let the garage know that you will arrive in 2 minutes, and as you are heading towards your car, the garage is in the process of retrieving your car.
@@Visionery1 I mentioned in another thread that someone came up with the idea of making a beautiful waiting room - not with network television (yuck) but a beautiful seating area with coffee, vocalless music and great lighting.
@@RomyIlano a beautiful waiting room is an excellent idea if cars can be expected within 15 minutes, but if one has to wait 3 hours to get one's car because everyone else managed to get into the queue first, then people will park elsewhere. These one-car-lift systems can be compared to walking a class of schoolchildren across the road one at a time, not very efficient.
Terry Smith Nah they made it longer so they can increase the viewed minutes and earn more. This is business and you’ll be mistaken if think it was done for you b
They have almost twice the capacity per unit of land than a traditional one that is why and land costs a fortune, especially in urban areas. The reason is that just over half the floor space in a traditional multistory is for the ramps and access roads. Ramps being the worst offender as they use way more space than an elevator does. There is also the fact that by building them using this automated warehouse technology (Which is exactly where this tech comes from) you don't need to add in the cost for intermediate floors strong enough to handle vehicle loads as vehicles are stacked in a rack like pallets of goods in a warehouse. The tech is relatively low cost too as it is used in so many places these days pretty much all large airports use these same systems for baggage handling as do logistics and mail processing hubs etc.
No, as you can seeeeeeee the whole car with the floor is moving............. This is a storage room for cars not for people to come in drive off the ramp.
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They are putting these in some high end condominium high rise buildings. So city living in your million dollar plus condo and none of the cars can be charged if they are electric? When the system fails, let's say on a Sunday afternoon, you're going to need a plan b for transportation. Hopefully they work out the issues. On paper it seems like a cool idea but it's easy to see many potential problems.
You're exchanging speed for expense. As it said in the video, it takes two-minutes to find a parking spot, and it's probably even faster to park instead of having to look for a space. In addition, people do pay the extra for that parking. I would also say your car is more likely safer to than an open parking lot or parking garage.
Its no slower than a human getting your key, running down the ramps, find the car, move the other cars out of the way and delivering the car. Price wise, its on par with the human staffed lots in the neighborhood. The biggest draw for me is that nobody touches the car. Lock it up and let the robot slot your car in.
Places like New York where people who own cars are 1. Upper middle class or higher and don't want their brand new luxury cars getting jockeyed around and joyridden by teenage garage attendants. 2. These people also only use their cars once in a while to go visit relatives in the suburbs or to go to their weekend homes. Therefore it doesn't matter if it takes 2-3 minutes because that extra time doesn't make them late for an important meeting in the worse case it might make them late for a dinner reservation by a little bit.
This is all not right, if people cannot park their cars properly they should not be able to drive the car. The automation in parking isn't any progress, it's rather waste of time and money. Still, the rich folks can use it as they have too much of both, time and money.
I hate this. It's no different than every other job stealing automated crap. The rich get richer, and those trying to earn a living, EAT, support themselves and/or their families gets left out and let down. I'll, personally NEVER PARK at one of these.
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Just imagine forgetting something in the car and going " Oh Crap! " as the car just slides up
That would really suck lol
Like a dog or your phone😬😯
it has a sensor for that job. Wherein, it scans an entire vehicle to check if any body is present in their.
@@alihussain3297 No it does not
@@onexlifeonly132 yes, it does. Scans for all lifesigns in the cabin.
“Did you get the baby?”
“I got the bag. I thought you got the baby?”
Back in the 70’s MAD Magazine had a comic that demonstrated this as relief to big city parking problems. Now it’s real!
I trust this more than my corner 19 year old valet driver lol
I drove into one in Copenhagen. I drove directly out (when it started scanning my car). Was not really sure about it all. I wasn't ready for this 🤔.
Looks awesome. Would love to see more parking lots like this one.
No you dont. It hasnt worked for the past 4 days and none of us have been able to get our cars.
@@gardenstatr07 Yes they do. Because that’s their opinion, not yours to decide based on YOUR experience.
@@Pano1 they're warning you it's trash but you just go "WELL I CAN WANT TRASH IF I WANT"
Wow now this is next level this is taking parking to the future hope to see this in Durham in a couple more years.
We need this Around the World, This is What we Call, "Innovation"!
Really cool. Kudos to whoever came up with this
It’s a nightmare when this thing fails.
Yeah, I have to wonder how these would work if there was a major blackout. Do they have a generator on standby?
@@adamohmmeter It hasnt worked at the JC location for the past 4 days and no one on the third floor can get their cars. Absolute nightmare.
This video has been sped up, if only these systems were this fast. Looking at the space taken up by the shuttles, the only benefit over conventional multi-deck parking is the slightly tighter sideways stacking, and a marginal saving on floor height. Unfortunately car lifts and shuttles are this technology's Achilles heel, they only transport one car at a time. It can take >3 minutes between the time a car leaves the exit enclosure and the next car is brought down: this excludes time taken to enter the correct info on the keypad, store one's shopping, retrieving a rear car from a tandem bay (the car closest to the aisle must first be removed and stored elsewhere), new arrivals correctly positioning their car in the entrance enclosure etc. Clearing a 60-car system can take >3 hours if using one car lift, staff finishing work at 5PM don't want to wait until 8PM before finally driving out. Alternative technology is available, yet solution providers cling to old one-car-at-a-time systems.
Yeah, I'm wondering how many it can shuffle per hour
I think someone floated the idea in another article that you'd make the waiting rooms pleasant, with free coffee and music and a plaza. that would solve a lot of issues! People don't mind waiting when it's a pretty square
it also protects against vandalism which is a big issue here in sf
They should install that in Disneyland...
This video looks like it was supposed to be posted on Tech Insider.
I like how this is inside an actual parking garage
these are so cool!!!!!!!!! they solve so many problems and have so much more security
It's all fun and games until the power goes out.
the Klaus stackers have hydraulic lifts and generators in that case
pretty cool system. 2 questions. how do you get your car back is there a special code or ticket you have to scan? & what if the system breaks down how is the car retrieved if the system should break down?
same questions came in my mind too
Song so catchy, love it
What happen if that machine destroys your car whose paying ?🤔
That's rare, most likely your insurance company or the garage insurance
That never happens, what is more likely to happen is all in/out bays get stuck. That has happened to me more than a few times. It usually takes a few hours to get the engineers onsite to fix. Yet I still go back, still faster and safer than humans.
Kwan Cheng I thought you quit TH-cam lol
Looks like a car vending machine
That's cool and all but what happens in a power outage?
raynarayskye Back up generator
How does a power outage effect anything, the machine will just stop in place until the backup comes on
StK Reidy siiiigh ok, I'll explain it. Power goes out. You got somewhere to be but can't get there because your car is being held hostage. Unlike a power outage in a traditional garge where you still just leave. Hope that cleared it up for you.
I love the music. Very "The Police" .
make sure you don't forget anything in your car 😥😥
do this if you want to insist on rejecting public transport and walkable cities (looking at you USA) - however: reduces the problem of wasted space, effective and just cool tech
thats so cute they look like toy cars
Why do they need so much light in the garage if there are no people? There is surely a potential carbon saving by having the parking operated by machines like this
if someone stays there there will be no lights and that can be dangerous
What happens if multiple people all come out at once? Happens all the time in my valet job. Think 10-15 people times 2 minutes, and you easily wait 20-30 minutes! I might be wrong but cant it only retrieve one car at a time? This would equal long wait times...
@Brian Hutchinson, good observation, nobody seems to give cycle times any thought until the installed system fails to perform as promised (Google Brickell House Robotic Parking). I mentioned your concern in an earlier post: "Unfortunately car lifts and shuttles are this technology's Achilles heel, they only transport one car at a time. 2 minutes is being very optimistic, it can easily take >3 minutes between the time a car leaves the exit enclosure and the next car is brought down: this excludes time taken to enter the correct info on the keypad, store one's shopping, retrieving a rear car from a tandem bay (the car closest to the aisle must first be removed and stored elsewhere), new arrivals correctly positioning their car in the entrance enclosure etc. Clearing a 60-car system can take >3 hours if using one car lift, staff finishing work at 5PM don't want to wait until 8PM before finally driving out. Alternative technology is available, yet solution providers cling to old one-car-at-a-time systems."
They should have some type of app where you can let the garage know that you will arrive in 2 minutes, and as you are heading towards your car, the garage is in the process of retrieving your car.
@@Visionery1 I mentioned in another thread that someone came up with the idea of making a beautiful waiting room - not with network television (yuck) but a beautiful seating area with coffee, vocalless music and great lighting.
@@RomyIlano a beautiful waiting room is an excellent idea if cars can be expected within 15 minutes, but if one has to wait 3 hours to get one's car because everyone else managed to get into the queue first, then people will park elsewhere. These one-car-lift systems can be compared to walking a class of schoolchildren across the road one at a time, not very efficient.
Once again, insider making a 3 minute video that could have easily been 30 seconds
right! lol
Terry Smith Nah they made it longer so they can increase the viewed minutes and earn more. This is business and you’ll be mistaken if think it was done for you b
It looks very expensive. i wonder how it can b more cost effective than standard garage.
They have almost twice the capacity per unit of land than a traditional one that is why and land costs a fortune, especially in urban areas. The reason is that just over half the floor space in a traditional multistory is for the ramps and access roads. Ramps being the worst offender as they use way more space than an elevator does. There is also the fact that by building them using this automated warehouse technology (Which is exactly where this tech comes from) you don't need to add in the cost for intermediate floors strong enough to handle vehicle loads as vehicles are stacked in a rack like pallets of goods in a warehouse. The tech is relatively low cost too as it is used in so many places these days pretty much all large airports use these same systems for baggage handling as do logistics and mail processing hubs etc.
Since there are no humans involved, I envisioned this system working in the dark with no lights on.
you can use it only for cars, not light trucks? like Ford F150 or F350?
Can i get the plans for this? It would help me a lot for my project
What if u have a Tesla and u open it’s doors via ur key fob mid operation
No, as you can seeeeeeee the whole car with the floor is moving............. This is a storage room for cars not for people to come in drive off the ramp.
Then your car gets crushed
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A revival of "Pigeon Hole" parking garages from the 1950's.
They are putting these in some high end condominium high rise buildings. So city living in your million dollar plus condo and none of the cars can be charged if they are electric?
When the system fails, let's say on a Sunday afternoon, you're going to need a plan b for transportation.
Hopefully they work out the issues. On paper it seems like a cool idea but it's easy to see many potential problems.
But will it handle a Ford F250 Crew Cab with the extended bed? :)
No, but Car washes and regular parking garages might not either
what about EV charging?
"What happens if there is a short circuit in the system?"?
Where is the place?
I want to have one in Bogotá, Colombia, contact me please.
No walking lane for drivers :(
nice
Is it profitable?
Longterm.. but it need shit load of space
I've been using the same lot for almost a decade. They are still around, I guess if they are not profitable they are at least operation neutral.
Jose Aguirre agreed, how do you compete vs a parking garage.
See .... He man Robotic car ParKing
Seems expensive and slow. Anyone care to explain to me why you would use this?
NunchuckDuck
You realize that good inventions can easily disappear because people think that it’s stupid and not useful.
You're exchanging speed for expense. As it said in the video, it takes two-minutes to find a parking spot, and it's probably even faster to park instead of having to look for a space. In addition, people do pay the extra for that parking. I would also say your car is more likely safer to than an open parking lot or parking garage.
Its no slower than a human getting your key, running down the ramps, find the car, move the other cars out of the way and delivering the car. Price wise, its on par with the human staffed lots in the neighborhood. The biggest draw for me is that nobody touches the car. Lock it up and let the robot slot your car in.
I would assume this is more compact than a valet / parking garage, and so would make financial sense in densely populated areas with high land costs
Places like New York where people who own cars are 1. Upper middle class or higher and don't want their brand new luxury cars getting jockeyed around and joyridden by teenage garage attendants. 2. These people also only use their cars once in a while to go visit relatives in the suburbs or to go to their weekend homes. Therefore it doesn't matter if it takes 2-3 minutes because that extra time doesn't make them late for an important meeting in the worse case it might make them late for a dinner reservation by a little bit.
Too slow. A good example of Inefficient over-engineering
My car already got crashed by this
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Does America really have these? Seems like a wasteful amount of time
QuadHawk8 it's actually better, you don't need to find a parking spot, this way it's just a few simple steps for the driver.
Narayan lfalee I live in America and tbh I agree with you complete waste of money it's meant for lazy people
Austin I didn't mean it's for lazy people, maybe they are in a rush
Narayan lfalee yeah if ur in a rush it probably takes a super long time to get your car if multiple people want theirs
In cities where land is outrageously expensive, this makes a lot of sense - the same reason why we build skyscrapers instead of detached homes.
Hacker see 😀
This is all not right, if people cannot park their cars properly they should not be able to drive the car. The automation in parking isn't any progress, it's rather waste of time and money. Still, the rich folks can use it as they have too much of both, time and money.
Far too slow.
Greg Caesar : 2 minutes? Less time than if you would go and get it there and paid for the parking.
Runar Andersen
Far too slow.
@@runarandersen878 think about you get off work, get there and queue up with 50 ppls
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I hate this. It's no different than every other job stealing automated crap. The rich get richer, and those trying to earn a living, EAT, support themselves and/or their families gets left out and let down.
I'll, personally NEVER PARK at one of these.
You realize there isn't anyone working at the surface lot you park at in protest, right?