I will categorically proclaim that Loop were one of very of the best psych bands of the mid-80's. they made psychedelia look and sound dark and heavy. Underrated.
@@GriefTourist funny, i decided to check early verve stuff again after a maybe a year or so. Still amazing. Some of it (Voyager 1 lp) sounded surprisingly more demented than loop.
Still got the old Fade Out CD somehow...This band really turned me on to psychedelic music in about '89, and are still a huge influence. This tune is just out there. Grazie Paolo!
I saw them a couple of times in early nineties in Italy. Once opening for Jane's Addiction (forgettable concert, too big venue), once in a small club near Milano (the mighty Bloom), and this was devastating, so incredibly loud and mesmerizing..
heard and saw them live a full wall of sound amazeing irish centre digbeth bham 1987 with 2 other bands cud and the birdcage it was a great night, never forgotten
I used to have this on 12” till I split with my ex 3 years ago. When I first bought it I always thought the band members all looked really old in the sleeve pics, but they were probably only a couple of years older than me!
this was the peak...loop always sounded like loop but this LP had the SOUND...honestly, a youtube upload is not going to give the same effect as the vinyl or even the CD...you can get LOST in this with the right source and equipment...trust me on that....this song especially, it is an orchestration of noise that is one of the top psych songs of all time...kinda sounds like an AM radio here on youtube thru laptop speakers %^)
You are spot on about the sound. I have this on vinyl and it is a transcendent experience at the right volume. Late 80's Loop and Spacemen 3 are amazing.
I saw Loop a few times in the 80's. I swung my hair so hard and for so long I had an out of body experience. Say no to drugs, listen to Loop! I wonder if they get any props from the current doom/stoner bands?
Loop were lumped into the shoegaze thing 30 years ago. A band can be psych and shoegaze at the same time. You making a comment on youtube isn't going to change reality. So put away your little genre pie graph, nerd.
incredibile mi sono ricordato di loro poco fa....ed eccoli qui sul tubo....una delle mie influenze sicure...il "loop" era un mio modo di fare suoni. ...Ma è una banda ancora attiva? su wikipedia non trovo un granchè...grandi...
I love when people try to put something into a genre or classify in a category when they weren't even around to hear it in the first place. No kiddies before TH-cam, Spotify, Pandora, people actually read zines went to record stores and shows. We did our homework and didn't hit a button and say we were instant fans to earn street cred. We worked at out knowledge and were part of a scene. You posers! LOOP wasn't shoegaze. Fuck the bands that were in the so called shoegaze scene hated that bastard term! It was made up by the likes of Melody Maker and NME! Why all the categories? Can't you just say it's great music and go with it? LOOP are gods!
I agree with you that subgenres upon subgenres are ridiculous but saying that younger people who like older music are posers seems too much. There are a lot of em, sure, but not all. I'm only 23 and listen to whatever fits my fancy, new or old, I don't care.
There are way to many genres and subgenres. Post Punk being the first. Many like Dark Core were made up after the fact. Don't be so harsh on younger people though. No one has a say when they are born.
I guarantee you that most of those bands are heavily influenced by Loop; Infact, Loop seem to have had a big influence on numerous undergroud/Avant metal bands: Neurosis and Electric Wizard to name a couple.
I remember seeing Loop at the Reading Festival but I can't remember the year. It may have been 1989. PWEI and Jesus Jones were also on that day and I think The Mission were headlining. Anyone able to confirm the year?? I remember thinking Loop were one of the best bands of the day. May have been the combination of weed and lager. Good days! :-)
+WarrenCromartie2 1990 was the year - I saw them and still have some photos somewhere. Other highlights: the Telescopes, the Cramps, the Band of Holy Joy on the second stage, Pixies were underwhelming, Fishbone were awful...
Day three, Reading Festival 1990. Two of us slept in a one-person tent and two of us in my 1976 Mini that was parked on an industrial estate nearby. I still remember the smell of my mate Mart's feet. The following year the big end of the same Mini went on the M4 down there and we were towed into Reading in splendour by the RAC. No shit.
Loop, Spacemen 3 were nowhere near the Shoegazing scene. They had their own Vibe going on and were more akin to Psych Garage punk bands of the 60's than the the likes of My Bloody Valentine and JAMC. Not that they weren't good, but I found Loop to be way above
the problem with shoegaze as a genre is there are about 3 bands in it that all sound different, and people's idea of shoegaze doesn't actually exist in any band that's why 'new shoegaze' sounds nothing like them.. This band are pretty post-punk(another stupid name that is too vague to mean anything), just immediately thought similarities with early Bunnymen, and The Wire...with a lot more reverb...first time listening though.
jorgepeterbarton No, the problem is that 'Shoegaze' was not a genre or a 'scene'. Shoegazer was a term of abuse that was used by fans of people like the Mondays and the Roses for other indie kids regarding their miserable dancing style and general 'gooseberry at the school disco' demeanor. Fans of pre-Glider MBV would certainly be prime candidates for this, but all the stuff that lacked a funky backbeat could conceivably have shoegazers amongst its fanbase. I was apalled the first time I saw shoegazer listed as a genre on AMG (probably 15 years ago or more). The idea that 'Shoegazer' was a genre seems to have been created and perpetuated by AMG and subsequent music journos who apparently need labels to apply to create ludicrously small 'scenes' -well, you can never have enough half baked, ill fitting, generalizations can you.
Post-this psych-that shoe-you I'm telling you it all pisses me off the genres and classifications that are painted on with an awfully wide brush, when I go to AllMusic . com every artist I choose from hardcore punk , heavy metal and the newly revived psych-rock are all tagged POP , fuck pop and its fizz rather Fuzz , Pop Music is popular music IMO top forty even bubblegum, who dare I ask is the great Overlord that decides for all the sheeple what is what . I question . Shoegaze as I read some time ago , came about because the performers stared at the floor equipment (Fuzz and wha wha pedals) instead of dancing about like a Patsy .
percy blakeney yes, language evolves though and now no one uses it as an insult. Its used as a genre....and the only common denominator between those who argue about it seems to be MBV and a coupe of thmes valley bands that probably barely met eachother...definitely not a scene... But looking at lists of "best shoegaze" it comes to stuff being obscured by reverb nowadays, heck a recent pitchfork top 50 lists various bands I wouldn't call shoegaze...but then i'd mention bowery electric, loveliescrushing, and stuff from NYC after 'loveless' and someone would probably argue with me. Its kind of clear people have different ideas, quite often cocteau twins are described as some epitomy and loads would argue against that......... as with JMC etc. etc. whilst putting late ride albums that basically sound like oasis on it. Same with no-wave, post-punk, post-rock all have their obscurities of genre... trying to get some over-arching term to describe it all vaguely of this sector of music is one way to go but then like those before it would be used 'wrongly' again.
shoegaze, psych, garage, who cares what genre this is? genres are nothing but made up terms, anyway, and don't mean anything. loop might have a few things in common with, say, mbv or chapterhouse but they have their own sound that can't be categorized into any one genre, which is what makes them a great band.
60's 70's psych garage grunge doom....... uh can anybody drop names to those eras ? instead of 90's pop.........which they were ...not! thanks for everyone in advance keep it lit!
Long time fan of Loop, but saw them for the first time about a month ago. Still awesome, and they create a mesmeric field like no other band out there. Heartily recommend their latest LP. One of the bands on my label owe a big debt to Loop, especially this track: th-cam.com/video/2etFetyWY-I/w-d-xo.html
cos the vocals are exactly the same as spacemen 3 is why .not to mention the sound/vibe..still..a place to bury strangers sound like Loop cos of goth basslines
I will categorically proclaim that Loop were one of very of the best psych bands of the mid-80's.
they made psychedelia look and sound dark and heavy. Underrated.
can't argue that at all...…..as you are right! loop tho have been overlooked on occasions! blinding band!
Miles better than Verve for example
@@GriefTourist funny, i decided to check early verve stuff again after a maybe a year or so. Still amazing. Some of it (Voyager 1 lp) sounded surprisingly more demented than loop.
The Loop track I listen to the most. A classic of drone-rock, a genre that Loop personified and were the best example of.
the most out there track ever...remember buying this in 89...fuck!!!!
I wanna know more about 80s psychedelic rock.
Your dp looks cool ossan
thing i love most about this is they played it-no digital tricks no sequencers or computers just real love of repetative music.hats off
Yes
Still got the old Fade Out CD somehow...This band really turned me on to psychedelic music in about '89, and are still a huge influence. This tune is just out there. Grazie Paolo!
I saw them a couple of times in early nineties in Italy. Once opening for Jane's Addiction (forgettable concert, too big venue), once in a small club near Milano (the mighty Bloom), and this was devastating, so incredibly loud and mesmerizing..
heard and saw them live a full wall of sound amazeing irish centre digbeth bham 1987 with 2 other bands cud and the birdcage it was a great night, never forgotten
LOOP
The Amazing Unsurpassed
Beautiful in their Disc
Wow! This brings back memories. I remember seeing them at Reading festival in 1989 ( I think) I was very mashed and they sounded great.
Spacemen 3 & Loop on the same bill.
I was there for that as well. They were loud and they were brilliant and I was fucked
Spacemen 3, Loop and MBV
I was there too! great times!!!
I used to have this on 12” till I split with my ex 3 years ago. When I first bought it I always thought the band members all looked really old in the sleeve pics, but they were probably only a couple of years older than me!
this was the peak...loop always sounded like loop but this LP had the SOUND...honestly, a youtube upload is not going to give the same effect as the vinyl or even the CD...you can get LOST in this with the right source and equipment...trust me on that....this song especially, it is an orchestration of noise that is one of the top psych songs of all time...kinda sounds like an AM radio here on youtube thru laptop speakers %^)
You are spot on about the sound. I have this on vinyl and it is a transcendent experience at the right volume. Late 80's Loop and Spacemen 3 are amazing.
i bought the cassette which sounded much different, and better, than my bud's CD, which sounded like this.
This music's awesome
Croydon's finest, we salute you.
Aaaagh indie madness from the late 80's
Love this. Play them regularly on my show. - CRMK 8pm Friday UK time
I saw Loop a few times in the 80's. I swung my hair so hard and for so long I had an out of body experience. Say no to drugs, listen to Loop! I wonder if they get any props from the current doom/stoner bands?
Their best track.
Effing superb
shoegaze? these guys were around before that scene. they fit in more with early telescopes and spacemen 3. they were just a psych band, not shoegaze
It does sound more on the psych rock side
right on brother
don't forget to respect suicide and silver apples ;)
Loop were lumped into the shoegaze thing 30 years ago. A band can be psych and shoegaze at the same time. You making a comment on youtube isn't going to change reality. So put away your little genre pie graph, nerd.
pigeon holes smigeon holes. I love all this shit. Saw Loop in 1986 and it was fucking shoe gaze rock n roll out of it madness. Is that a hole.
incredibile mi sono ricordato di loro poco fa....ed eccoli qui sul tubo....una delle mie influenze sicure...il "loop" era un mio modo di fare suoni. ...Ma è una banda ancora attiva? su wikipedia non trovo un granchè...grandi...
This is relevant to my interests.
Every other track on the album bores the shit out of me, Black Sun makes it worth owning. Never gets old.
no-gaze..a stoner band that perfected repetition and noise the way spacemen 3 did.
I love S3, but this was a band, not a clash of two egos.
great band dude
Oh thanks for the peek
Well they are, came out of the same musical spirit and influences. Nothing wrong there. Right for the time. this stuff has worn really well.
You said it. I have always felt the same.
Definitely influenced my beloved Swervedriver...
Bro Mezcal Head was badass.
Mezcal Head is totally badass.
LuxeXx I disagree. Raise was my fave Swervies album. Sandblasted is a great shoegaze classic although it is leaning towards Dinosaur Jr.
What a loop
I love when people try to put something into a genre or classify in a category when they weren't even around to hear it in the first place. No kiddies before TH-cam, Spotify, Pandora, people actually read zines went to record stores and shows. We did our homework and didn't hit a button and say we were instant fans to earn street cred. We worked at out knowledge and were part of a scene. You posers! LOOP wasn't shoegaze. Fuck the bands that were in the so called shoegaze scene hated that bastard term! It was made up by the likes of Melody Maker and NME! Why all the categories? Can't you just say it's great music and go with it? LOOP are gods!
eric1012wi Dude chill out, smoke a spliff or something.
eric1012wi I wanted to shoe gaze, but never seemed to make it past my navel....
I agree with you that subgenres upon subgenres are ridiculous but saying that younger people who like older music are posers seems too much. There are a lot of em, sure, but not all. I'm only 23 and listen to whatever fits my fancy, new or old, I don't care.
I think it was 1989. I can remember seeing them for the first time.
There are way to many genres and subgenres. Post Punk being the first. Many like Dark Core were made up after the fact. Don't be so harsh on younger people though. No one has a say when they are born.
I fucking loved jamming to this through the turbo rat & cry baby.
daily friendship dose.
robert was a roadie for the spacemen and the press over stressed that fact after Loop did well
So ahead of its time! Increase the pitch of the vocals and this could be atmospheric/cosmic black metal 😈 🪐
I guarantee you that most of those bands are heavily influenced by Loop; Infact, Loop seem to have had a big influence on numerous undergroud/Avant metal bands: Neurosis and Electric Wizard to name a couple.
So, this is perfect, yes?
I remember seeing Loop at the Reading Festival but I can't remember the year. It may have been 1989. PWEI and Jesus Jones were also on that day and I think The Mission were headlining. Anyone able to confirm the year?? I remember thinking Loop were one of the best bands of the day. May have been the combination of weed and lager. Good days! :-)
+WarrenCromartie2 1990 was the year - I saw them and still have some photos somewhere. Other highlights: the Telescopes, the Cramps, the Band of Holy Joy on the second stage, Pixies were underwhelming, Fishbone were awful...
+Len Parrick BOHJ were such a good band in those days. Johnny Brown had an incredible stage charisma.
Day three, Reading Festival 1990. Two of us slept in a one-person tent and two of us in my 1976 Mini that was parked on an industrial estate nearby. I still remember the smell of my mate Mart's feet. The following year the big end of the same Mini went on the M4 down there and we were towed into Reading in splendour by the RAC. No shit.
+WarrenCromartie2 1989 I was there too :) ... also see Loop yearbefore that at the ULU (London Uni)
+Extreme Weather Blimey WOW indeed. But you're forgetting Ride.
Loop Black Sun just sums up my love of droney druggy repetition perfectly.
Loop, Spacemen 3 were nowhere near the Shoegazing scene. They had their own Vibe going on and were more akin to Psych Garage punk bands of the 60's than the the likes of My Bloody Valentine and JAMC. Not that they weren't good, but I found Loop to be way above
the problem with shoegaze as a genre is there are about 3 bands in it that all sound different, and people's idea of shoegaze doesn't actually exist in any band that's why 'new shoegaze' sounds nothing like them.. This band are pretty post-punk(another stupid name that is too vague to mean anything), just immediately thought similarities with early Bunnymen, and The Wire...with a lot more reverb...first time listening though.
jorgepeterbarton Lush?....
jorgepeterbarton No, the problem is that 'Shoegaze' was not a genre or a 'scene'. Shoegazer was a term of abuse that was used by fans of people like the Mondays and the Roses for other indie kids regarding their miserable dancing style and general 'gooseberry at the school disco' demeanor. Fans of pre-Glider MBV would certainly be prime candidates for this, but all the stuff that lacked a funky backbeat could conceivably have shoegazers amongst its fanbase.
I was apalled the first time I saw shoegazer listed as a genre on AMG (probably 15 years ago or more). The idea that 'Shoegazer' was a genre seems to have been created and perpetuated by AMG and subsequent music journos who apparently need labels to apply to create ludicrously small 'scenes' -well, you can never have enough half baked, ill fitting, generalizations can you.
Post-this psych-that shoe-you I'm telling you it all pisses me off the genres and classifications that are painted on with an awfully wide brush, when I go to AllMusic . com every artist I choose from hardcore punk , heavy metal and the newly revived psych-rock are all tagged POP , fuck pop and its fizz rather Fuzz , Pop Music is popular music IMO top forty even bubblegum, who dare I ask is the great Overlord that decides for all the sheeple what is what . I question . Shoegaze as I read some time ago , came about because the performers stared at the floor equipment (Fuzz and wha wha pedals) instead of dancing about like a Patsy .
percy blakeney yes, language evolves though and now no one uses it as an insult. Its used as a genre....and the only common denominator between those who argue about it seems to be MBV and a coupe of thmes valley bands that probably barely met eachother...definitely not a scene... But looking at lists of "best shoegaze" it comes to stuff being obscured by reverb nowadays, heck a recent pitchfork top 50 lists various bands I wouldn't call shoegaze...but then i'd mention bowery electric, loveliescrushing, and stuff from NYC after 'loveless' and someone would probably argue with me. Its kind of clear people have different ideas, quite often cocteau twins are described as some epitomy and loads would argue against that......... as with JMC etc. etc. whilst putting late ride albums that basically sound like oasis on it. Same with no-wave, post-punk, post-rock all have their obscurities of genre... trying to get some over-arching term to describe it all vaguely of this sector of music is one way to go but then like those before it would be used 'wrongly' again.
...the horrors were influenced by that. for sure.
Lyrics, anyone, please?
shoegaze, psych, garage, who cares what genre this is? genres are nothing but made up terms, anyway, and don't mean anything. loop might have a few things in common with, say, mbv or chapterhouse but they have their own sound that can't be categorized into any one genre, which is what makes them a great band.
Nerds and their genre flowcharts, they will always be there to piss on the parade.
This does sound like drone rock, but why aren't they classified as such, but instead by shoegaze?
They fall into multiple categories, including drone, shoegaze, psychedelic... why is this so hard for some people to grasp?
Shit journalists pigeonholing things.
60's 70's psych garage grunge doom....... uh can anybody drop names to those eras ? instead of 90's pop.........which they were ...not! thanks for everyone in advance keep it lit!
It's on the show www.mixcloud.com/TheTransmitterDown/show-81-16th-november-2018/
Long time fan of Loop, but saw them for the first time about a month ago. Still awesome, and they create a mesmeric field like no other band out there. Heartily recommend their latest LP.
One of the bands on my label owe a big debt to Loop, especially this track:
th-cam.com/video/2etFetyWY-I/w-d-xo.html
from Selhurst to here
Check out Halo Noose journey to the sun on you tube
sadly under productive back in the day. But brilliant
Angle into body from two side triangles base bone chakkra
i was thinking more the soup dragons
The Masters of Shoegaze !!!!!!
White Sun anyone?
cos the vocals are exactly the same as spacemen 3 is why .not to mention the sound/vibe..still..a place to bury strangers sound like Loop cos of goth basslines
tr i p...
lolllooo
tra le band piu' ingiustamente sottostimate,insieme ai Talk talk,Psichedelic Furs,Church..
Altro pianeta rispetto ai Church e agli PS. Sono freak disillusi, non inermi.
I notice all the comments trying to classify this sound... to me it just sounds like Joy Division with too much reverb and delay.
Loop were more about the 60's/70's psychadelic scene than the 80's new wave. During the 80's we referred to Loop as psychadelic rock.
huh? Sounds nothing like punk.