I’ve never been fit. Been playing for 40 years and around scratch since high school. I think after watching this I’m finally gonna go do it. Great video.
I just did my first fitting after 20 years. It’s amazing. Went with TSR3 with Ventus blue velocore+ and a +4 grip to help with heavy draw. I’ve been nailing fairways.
I got a Titleist iron fitting a I really enjoyed the process. Ended up T350 irons and I love the feel and repeatability. Great video. I need a driver fitting now.
I did my irons about 6 weeks ago, ended up in T150's, similar reasons, they ball just consistently came out the same, but also my mishits were seeing very similar distances as well which was awesome.
Glad it was helpful! I would definitely recommend a fitting, it's crazy how many shaft options are out there and there are lots of great stock and after market options as well!
@@pgjc756 I did try the fairway woods, Ill do a separate video on those, I saw some gains but I also hit for over 2 hours and it was over 100 heat index on the day, so I would like to hit them again. Same idea though, they look and feel very similar but i noticed mis hits didn't have a huge drop off, I also was able to get the ball a little higher than my current 3w.
Great Video. I just got the TSR2 in February and love it. The tightest dispersion I have ever had with a driver. I have it on the B3 setting with the 10 degree head, and Hzrdus Red CB shaft, stiff 50 g 6.0 shaft. Obviously you posted the best numbers you had with the TSR driver, how did the GT feel compared to the TSR? Loved the video though. Yes fittings are important.
The TSR2 is a really good driver, they feel and look very similar, and I think I cut it out, but we did talk about how TItleist's goal is for their drivers to look and feel the same from year to year, then people just enjoy the benefits of the new technology. I thought that was true, but my biggest thing was when I had mishits (and there was a lot) I just didn't see the ball speed drop or spin increase (misses were bottom heel usually) like I expected.
Excited for you. I got fitted for new irons but Driver is next.. I have a similar swing speed so looking forward to seeing what kind of gains I'll get..
It was impressive to see. I think in general, the driver tech has changed the last year or two and the ball speeds you get on less than perfect hits is crazy good.
That's part of getting fit and getting into a better driver, one that helps you find the middle more, but also plenty of the shots with the GT were mishit (I made sure to say it) and the ball speed on mishit shots was still 3 mph faster on average and spin was down a couple hundred rpms on those mishits from the other driver.
I play a ltdx ls with a Venus white 60 s. The ball I was playing was launching lower than I liked. Switched to a higher launching ball and now it’s a monster. My swing speed is 105mph. Carry is between 275 and 280 now
@@ryanwalters694 It's a great driver and I think Cobra is an underrated club company. But with how my swing has changed over the past few years, I think it's no longer what I need.
I'm about to get fit for this driver myself this week, but the shaft did more for you than the clubhead. A Titleist rep saying the clubhead means more is the exact opposite. I am a Titleist guy myself.
I think the shaft is very important, but the point is that you have to find a clubhead you like otherwise you won't know which part of the club is having a positive or negative effect on the ball flight. Shaft is obviously a very important element to the process.
At our facility with our Top100 fitters we charge $125 for a fitting. New drivers are around $600 right now so if you're going to make that investment I would definitely recommend getting fitted to make the most of it.
Your swing looked more comfortable and confident with the GT3; really nice swing; have been fit multiple times and if you think about how $ golf has become, it is absolutely worth investing in a fitting
100% fitting is important, I see it every day with our awesome fitters at Mistwood, they get people some great results. I don't think it made the cut, but at the start of hitting the GT3, it felt different and I almost was just trying to get it out of my hands. I think I had the thought going in that I was going to be in GT2, but then after hitting it a few times then going back and forth, I really started to like the weight on the bottom. While I wait for mine to come, I've been back on my Cobra and it's been bugging me not having the extra weight now lol.
It was both, I had basically the same setup, in the TSR2 and the ball speed went up from 160ish to 163. What also people aren't realizing is that the head can change how you deliver. I'll talk more about it later but there are design features that caused some of the improvement in delivery numbers. And yes a very low spinning shaft for me as well helps.
This was free. For us at Mistwood where we fit all brands we charge $125 (very worth it in my opinion) but you can also look for events from Titleist where it's usually less and you can fit.
Good fitting. My only problem with trying all 3 models is that first you hit your gamer, then you hit the Titleist, then you've got to narrow down shaft, then loft and surefit and with the GT3 possibly the weight. By the end, that's a lot of balls hit and fatigue comes into play.
It can, my speed stayed consistent throughout, also had a lot of fluids during this and made sure to take breaks. Anyone going for a fitting will hit a lot of swings. But it was about 80 total. I'm used to hitting a lot more shots than that.
I only wish I could get fitted like this! I have to drive over 2 hours just to go to a Dick’s for any kind of fitting, which is mostly a waste of time! As a lefty I’m basically screwed on options. I will keep my current clubs until I have to get a softer flex !
Yea club companies don't provide as many fitting options to lefty's, but we get all of them at our facility and there are still some good ones. I do think avoiding the big box stores is a good plan as well. Best thing to do is get on the manufacturer websites and look for events they are putting on (we actually have one at our course today) where you can get fit by them (usually for free!) and they bring all of their options.
2.23 - "We believe that the head is the most important component of the club." This is an interesting comment when you consider the variability in flex, torsion, and twist of every shaft attached to that head! #personalthought
The main contribution a shaft makes to a golf club is weight... People overhype shafts. The head is infinitely more important than the shaft. When people find a shaft that they swing well, it's 90% the weight that they are timing properly.
The head gets you into the right neighborhood. When I hit the different heads, one of them was just a no-go for me personally (still a great club) but based on what I like to see and need it wasn't hitting those windows so I only hit it a few times. But once there, the shaft is going to make little tweaks to really dial in the feel and the numbers needed for the golf club. Part of it can be weight, but a lot of times it's going to be if I have a certain torque it's easier to turn it over or keep the face open, or there are certain shafts with the same weight/flex but completely different bend profiles that feel and produce different results. That was my main goal of this video to show that it is definitely worth going to get fit and get the opportunity to try some different options that are out there.
One thing all of these "I GAINED XX NUMBER OF YARDS FROM A NEW DRIVER" have in common is their previous driver didnt fit them well. Its not that this driver is sooo fast or whatever these manufacturers want you to think, you just are spinning it less. 2800 to 2000 will gain anyone a decent chunk of distance, but you could have gained that distance with any brand out there, with their old or new drivers. This is all ignoring the fact that he lowered your spin with lower loft, which also will gain you ball speed. If more people understood how all this works, they wouldnt get so hyped on this stuff...
@@scotthogangolf Not according to the video, but lets even say that's true for arguments sake, you were hitting down on your cobra and up on the Titleist, a difference of just under 2 degrees. Also, you had an average 6° open face with your cobra, and a basically square face with the Titleist. Square face and more up will both equate to more club speed and less spin, which obviously result in more distance. Let's quit pretending new drivers are any faster. The answer is always in the numbers, whether that be the club spec numbers or swing numbers.
I tried to voice it but a lot of these shots were not great strikes. But also just looking at the end stats too, that would include all the shots no matter how it was hit. That was what I was most excited, I saw some crazy gains on shots that were not struck that well in my opinion.
@@albertroyen7799 I do think you're right and I'd love to have a video one day with a more "average" player and see what we can do with equipment to help them out.
I’m calling bs. Cmon guys like you find magical 10 yards with every new model. And now you got 23 yards. What are you finding with the GT Mark ii model in 2 years.
I don't understand how you've got this online, if it's embargoed until August 1, 2024. You're over a month early - did you get some kind of special permission from Titleist? Definitely not trying to yuck your yum, but if everyone else online has to abide by the same rules, how'd you get around that?
I talked with Titleist before hand to get permission to film and we had a discussion about what is allowed and what isn't. There is plenty that I have that I'm not allowed to show. I've seen others with videos or content showing the exact same thing as I've done here.
@@scotthogangolf titleist has an embargo (can’t release footage) until just before release date in Aug. everyone that has had a GT video has gotten taken down. Be careful
Not allowed to show numbers. Best take it down and be safe. Put it back up August 1st. Why do you think you're one of the only reviews online right now?
And every year or every other year in Titleist’s case, they convince a few hundred suckers that the latest and greatest now $900 driver is somehow going to add 20 yards to their drives lol.
If you had been correctly fit for any top driver , you would have achieved the same. Limits of driver are maxed out off centre hits. They're all good. Just get one that you like the look of .
Maybe that's true, that's why people should go get fit and get correctly fit and see what works for them. But there is a lot of room in getting fit for a proper shaft still, and then dialing in all of the weight settings etc...
I’ve never been fit. Been playing for 40 years and around scratch since high school. I think after watching this I’m finally gonna go do it. Great video.
Thank you! It's definitely worth it. If you're in Chicago come see us at Mistwood!
I just did my first fitting after 20 years. It’s amazing. Went with TSR3 with Ventus blue velocore+ and a +4 grip to help with heavy draw. I’ve been nailing fairways.
@@zacharywilliams3136 That's a good setup to help with that ball flight! Glad to hear the fitting helped out!
Same thing scratch and just started getting fit the Titleist lineup is solid
Huge gains mate, congratulations!!
Thank you! I honestly wasn't expecting it, I typically would say driving is a strength of mine, but I'll take anything I can get!
I got a Titleist iron fitting a I really enjoyed the process. Ended up T350 irons and I love the feel and repeatability. Great video. I need a driver fitting now.
I did my irons about 6 weeks ago, ended up in T150's, similar reasons, they ball just consistently came out the same, but also my mishits were seeing very similar distances as well which was awesome.
I haven't been fit for a driver in 10 yrs. I was planning on waiting for the GT. Thanks for this helpful video!
Glad it was helpful! I would definitely recommend a fitting, it's crazy how many shaft options are out there and there are lots of great stock and after market options as well!
@@scotthogangolf did you also try their fairway woods and/or hybrids?
@@pgjc756 I did try the fairway woods, Ill do a separate video on those, I saw some gains but I also hit for over 2 hours and it was over 100 heat index on the day, so I would like to hit them again. Same idea though, they look and feel very similar but i noticed mis hits didn't have a huge drop off, I also was able to get the ball a little higher than my current 3w.
Just got my gt3. I’m a 3 handicap. Love the driver lets goooo
It's been awesome, a few people I showed have switched from their other brand new driver they bought earlier this year, it's performed that well.
Great Video. I just got the TSR2 in February and love it. The tightest dispersion I have ever had with a driver. I have it on the B3 setting with the 10 degree head, and Hzrdus Red CB shaft, stiff 50 g 6.0 shaft. Obviously you posted the best numbers you had with the TSR driver, how did the GT feel compared to the TSR? Loved the video though. Yes fittings are important.
The TSR2 is a really good driver, they feel and look very similar, and I think I cut it out, but we did talk about how TItleist's goal is for their drivers to look and feel the same from year to year, then people just enjoy the benefits of the new technology. I thought that was true, but my biggest thing was when I had mishits (and there was a lot) I just didn't see the ball speed drop or spin increase (misses were bottom heel usually) like I expected.
I just scheduled a Titleist driver fitting for July 29th. I sure hope it’s with the GT line. Thanks for the video!
We are expected to get our GT Fitting line on the 23rd so you should have it!
Excited for you. I got fitted for new irons but Driver is next.. I have a similar swing speed so looking forward to seeing what kind of gains I'll get..
It was impressive to see. I think in general, the driver tech has changed the last year or two and the ball speeds you get on less than perfect hits is crazy good.
The gains strike me as coming off a misfit Cobra LTDx rather than a huge gain by going to Titileist GT models from a properly fit driver.
That's part of getting fit and getting into a better driver, one that helps you find the middle more, but also plenty of the shots with the GT were mishit (I made sure to say it) and the ball speed on mishit shots was still 3 mph faster on average and spin was down a couple hundred rpms on those mishits from the other driver.
I play a ltdx ls with a Venus white 60 s. The ball I was playing was launching lower than I liked. Switched to a higher launching ball and now it’s a monster. My swing speed is 105mph. Carry is between 275 and 280 now
@@ryanwalters694 It's a great driver and I think Cobra is an underrated club company. But with how my swing has changed over the past few years, I think it's no longer what I need.
@@ryanwalters694 awesome! It's all about finding the right combo for you.
What is your average AofA ?
I'm about to get fit for this driver myself this week, but the shaft did more for you than the clubhead. A Titleist rep saying the clubhead means more is the exact opposite. I am a Titleist guy myself.
I think the shaft is very important, but the point is that you have to find a clubhead you like otherwise you won't know which part of the club is having a positive or negative effect on the ball flight. Shaft is obviously a very important element to the process.
How much does it cost fort driver and getting fitted? Does the price change depending on hiw you fit the driver??
At our facility with our Top100 fitters we charge $125 for a fitting. New drivers are around $600 right now so if you're going to make that investment I would definitely recommend getting fitted to make the most of it.
Im coming from the Tsi. Excited to try the GT3. What's your handicap?
I'm a zero, I think from the TSi you'll see some big differences
Great Video, where was your fitting?
Oak brook golf club!
No embargo?`
Embargo?
What was the final verdict for head/shaft combo ? I'm considering a Titleist driver for the first time ever and would love to know .
GT3 with graphite deign vf7 shaft
did you try the gt4 after findin the shaft that suited your swing?
I didn’t, just from the initial shots it was pretty clear it wasn’t going to be for me. ball came off too low and too right for me
GT3. You know my trigger word.
Haha it's mine now too
Is GT1 coming?
They didn't say, in the TSR lineup I believe that came later
Your swing looked more comfortable and confident with the GT3; really nice swing; have been fit multiple times and if you think about how $ golf has become, it is absolutely worth investing in a fitting
100% fitting is important, I see it every day with our awesome fitters at Mistwood, they get people some great results. I don't think it made the cut, but at the start of hitting the GT3, it felt different and I almost was just trying to get it out of my hands. I think I had the thought going in that I was going to be in GT2, but then after hitting it a few times then going back and forth, I really started to like the weight on the bottom. While I wait for mine to come, I've been back on my Cobra and it's been bugging me not having the extra weight now lol.
Are you able to express your decision for the 3 vs the 2 por favor?
I will talk more about that in a future video, so stay tuned!
would have like to seen how you would have gone a QI10 fit and compare it to the GT
Well they definitely wouldn't allow that at a Titleist event...but we will see what we can do in the future.
It was not the new driver head per se, that gave the increase in distance, it was the whole fitting process, probably more to do with the shaft.
It was both, I had basically the same setup, in the TSR2 and the ball speed went up from 160ish to 163. What also people aren't realizing is that the head can change how you deliver. I'll talk more about it later but there are design features that caused some of the improvement in delivery numbers. And yes a very low spinning shaft for me as well helps.
Interesting. I have never been fitted for a driver. What'd it cost ya.
This was free. For us at Mistwood where we fit all brands we charge $125 (very worth it in my opinion) but you can also look for events from Titleist where it's usually less and you can fit.
What’s your swing speed?
106-108 in this video
@@scotthogangolf 162 ball speed is very impressive at 106. I guess I need to get a lot more efficient
Good fitting. My only problem with trying all 3 models is that first you hit your gamer, then you hit the Titleist, then you've got to narrow down shaft, then loft and surefit and with the GT3 possibly the weight. By the end, that's a lot of balls hit and fatigue comes into play.
It can, my speed stayed consistent throughout, also had a lot of fluids during this and made sure to take breaks. Anyone going for a fitting will hit a lot of swings. But it was about 80 total. I'm used to hitting a lot more shots than that.
I only wish I could get fitted like this! I have to drive over 2 hours just to go to a Dick’s for any kind of fitting, which is mostly a waste of time! As a lefty I’m basically screwed on options. I will keep my current clubs until I have to get a softer flex !
Yea club companies don't provide as many fitting options to lefty's, but we get all of them at our facility and there are still some good ones. I do think avoiding the big box stores is a good plan as well. Best thing to do is get on the manufacturer websites and look for events they are putting on (we actually have one at our course today) where you can get fit by them (usually for free!) and they bring all of their options.
2.23 - "We believe that the head is the most important component of the club." This is an interesting comment when you consider the variability in flex, torsion, and twist of every shaft attached to that head! #personalthought
The main contribution a shaft makes to a golf club is weight... People overhype shafts. The head is infinitely more important than the shaft. When people find a shaft that they swing well, it's 90% the weight that they are timing properly.
The head gets you into the right neighborhood. When I hit the different heads, one of them was just a no-go for me personally (still a great club) but based on what I like to see and need it wasn't hitting those windows so I only hit it a few times. But once there, the shaft is going to make little tweaks to really dial in the feel and the numbers needed for the golf club. Part of it can be weight, but a lot of times it's going to be if I have a certain torque it's easier to turn it over or keep the face open, or there are certain shafts with the same weight/flex but completely different bend profiles that feel and produce different results. That was my main goal of this video to show that it is definitely worth going to get fit and get the opportunity to try some different options that are out there.
Your Cobra driver was previously properly fit for you and now it’s not and you find 23 yards with the Titleist. Yeah ok.
Feels like a difference in weight. Just like every other brand and every other model. Wow
Difference in weight how so?
One thing all of these "I GAINED XX NUMBER OF YARDS FROM A NEW DRIVER" have in common is their previous driver didnt fit them well. Its not that this driver is sooo fast or whatever these manufacturers want you to think, you just are spinning it less. 2800 to 2000 will gain anyone a decent chunk of distance, but you could have gained that distance with any brand out there, with their old or new drivers. This is all ignoring the fact that he lowered your spin with lower loft, which also will gain you ball speed. If more people understood how all this works, they wouldnt get so hyped on this stuff...
Without responding to all of this, I'll just say, he went up in loft 1.75 degrees and lowered spin. So you are not correct.
@@scotthogangolf Not according to the video, but lets even say that's true for arguments sake, you were hitting down on your cobra and up on the Titleist, a difference of just under 2 degrees. Also, you had an average 6° open face with your cobra, and a basically square face with the Titleist. Square face and more up will both equate to more club speed and less spin, which obviously result in more distance. Let's quit pretending new drivers are any faster. The answer is always in the numbers, whether that be the club spec numbers or swing numbers.
Problem with this type of fitting that the focus is on the best shots. I think for amateurs it’s more important to focus on the average shots.
I tried to voice it but a lot of these shots were not great strikes. But also just looking at the end stats too, that would include all the shots no matter how it was hit. That was what I was most excited, I saw some crazy gains on shots that were not struck that well in my opinion.
@@scotthogangolf no problem! Congrats with the improvement!
@@albertroyen7799 I do think you're right and I'd love to have a video one day with a more "average" player and see what we can do with equipment to help them out.
I’m calling bs. Cmon guys like you find magical 10 yards with every new model. And now you got 23 yards. What are you finding with the GT Mark ii model in 2 years.
Dude, if you are getting 40 yards from a driver fitting these days, your old driver was really not fitted well
40? More like 23. Also things change.
I don't understand how you've got this online, if it's embargoed until August 1, 2024. You're over a month early - did you get some kind of special permission from Titleist? Definitely not trying to yuck your yum, but if everyone else online has to abide by the same rules, how'd you get around that?
I talked with Titleist before hand to get permission to film and we had a discussion about what is allowed and what isn't. There is plenty that I have that I'm not allowed to show. I've seen others with videos or content showing the exact same thing as I've done here.
lol lawsuit on the way. But everyone is looking for this content
What do you mean lawsuit?
@@scotthogangolf titleist has an embargo (can’t release footage) until just before release date in Aug. everyone that has had a GT video has gotten taken down. Be careful
@@MABirkeland Interesting, they invited me and asked me to film the video, so I will have to see.
@@MABirkeland I will say, there is stuff I was not allowed to show in the video so maybe those people had that.
Not allowed to show numbers. Best take it down and be safe. Put it back up August 1st.
Why do you think you're one of the only reviews online right now?
Cobra drivers suck lol 😂
The new Darkspeed drivers are definitely built to help people gain speed and aren't bad.
Titleist drivers are snoozers zzzzzz
They would take that as a compliment that their driver looks the same as it always has, but gets gains out of new techology.
Sure they do…
@@booger65man literally says it in the video
And every year or every other year in Titleist’s case, they convince a few hundred suckers that the latest and greatest now $900 driver is somehow going to add 20 yards to their drives lol.
@@booger65man What a weird response to one of the top golf brands ever created. Weird...
Please stop putting labour political broardcast advert lies
What now?
If you had been correctly fit for any top driver , you would have achieved the same. Limits of driver are maxed out off centre hits. They're all good. Just get one that you like the look of .
Maybe that's true, that's why people should go get fit and get correctly fit and see what works for them. But there is a lot of room in getting fit for a proper shaft still, and then dialing in all of the weight settings etc...