My uncle of this horrible crash was the Captain. Sadly his son was killed 3 years later on June, 13, 1978 in a helicopter crash. He was with the National guard. My family went through so much during this horrific time. My uncle and cousin were wonderful men.
@@jeffk19 I read article about this years ago. It seems a pilot of a flying tigers. DCA noticed the windshield or the descent of his airplane was coming a little too rapidly he was able to pull out and land safely .The Flying Tigers pilot advised the tower to change the runway to the Northwest runway which the tower never did.
I lost my father in that plane crash. It was like it happened yesterday and is burned into my memory. I was only 19 years old at the time and still miss my father very much.
I particularly remember that day because I was working as one of the three NBC staff still photographers. I was asked to shoot stills from one of the TV screens in the kine room for the network. I shot a child's teddy bear resting on the ground, which ended up very large on the front page of the Arts section NY Times. The article was about whether or not the TV News was too intrusive during a catastrophe of this kind. It was the beginning of the small remote video cameras that had been recently developed for on-site recording. What really upset me, apart, of course, from the crash itself, was that it was my first photo credit received from NBC. I'd been fighting for us to get credit for our work and unfortunately, this was the first one - and in an article criticizing the TV media! As an aside, it's so strange and kind of sad, to see Tom, who was a kind of mentor for me. I miss him.
On that sad day, I was 18 years old and was at JFK with my parents standing in line to get my ticket. I was a student leaving to study abroad in Argentina. We heard a lot of commotion, crying/screaming as some of the other parents and students were passing around the newspaper with the article and pictures. My mother grabbed it out of my hand and told me not to look at it. I grabbed it right back and my reaction was total shock😮 She had fear in her eyes as if to tell me: you aren’t going! I will never ever forget that moment. I actually did go. I offer my deepest sympathies to all who lost loved ones in that horrific plane crash😢
My mom's neighborhood friend passed away in this crash a long with her younger sister and mother. The father was taking a flight the next day to meet up with them. All my mom remembers is seeing the dad get in his car and speed away. Really was a sad day for a lot of people.
Finally, some WNBC-TV footage featuring Tom Snyder! Yes, he did do a excellent job anchoring the broadcast and segueing between crash updates and other news of the day. And he was as good of an ad-libber as anyone. It is strange seeing Chuck Scarborough taking a secondary role here, but he'd already anchored his newscast at 5:00.
@@wmbrown6The irony is that TS ultimately preferred doing lighthearted interviews to the serious stuff. Peter Lassally and Robert Morton have said they intended for Tom to have a serious, newsmaking show when they hired him to be on after Letterman, but that’s not what Tom was interested in doing.
Yes, a sad day, but I am also pleased to finally see some footage of Tom hosting NC4. I was really shocked when he died, and WNBC only had footage of him anchoring for WABC in the 80's. On Chuck's anniversary, they have a couple of clips of him on NC4, but nothing of Snyder? Video tape was expensive back then, and no reason to have ever broadcast archived, but don't they have anything? Or was it too expensive to bring the tapes out of storage for an obit?
Interesting dialogue at 20:19 when the open mic picks up Frank Field trying to sell Tom Snyder on the medical story: "This is serious." You could tell Snyder was pretty pissed at having to read the deli truck story before the break and didn't want any more fluff.
This was supposedly the first time that a New York TV station had ever done a live news report from the field with ENG (Electronic News Gathering) equipment, as opposed to cumbersome multi camera mobile units, which had been used on rare occasions prior to that. WNBC reportedly got their first live ENG unit just days earlier.
You can tell here and in the NBC Nightly News report with Robert Hager that they were still working out a lot of kinks communicating with the crew in the field.
Nice archive aviation footage. Interesting at this time wind shear was a unknown phenomena that eventually claimed Pan Am 759 in New Orleans and Delta 191 in Dallas Ft Worth as well later in years.
I remember when this happened. About 20 minutes from my then home. I was very young. My father was a Nassau County police officer and received a call from a fellow officer asking if he was called to go in.
I was born that year... but I remember this hearing about it years later and the videos then that one of the babies was found inside the fathers chest due to the impact and he was holding him to brace him from the impact... devastating.
I was seven years old in 75.....last day of 1 st grade was June 23th......i remember the strong thunderstorms and then the massive explosion that was much louder and different than thunder......we lived maybe 4 miles away as the crow flies......i do remember they were showing a buffalo ring on the news to help identify a victim........i can never forget that explosion over that severe thunder.
What I would give to return to my 8 year old self of 1972, would not even equal all the gold in the world. What a wonderful and magical time it was to grow up in the 1970's and 1980's. I love watching these old commercials and broadcasts, but I did not like watching the news about the Eastern crash tragedy!
Who could know that tornado scientist Ted Fujita, assigned to investigate this crash, would play a huge role in descovering and defining WIND SHEAR for the airline industry?
I remember seeing this on the news. So sad. And man I miss those accents and slightly snarky delivery at times - takes me right back to my childhood. We’d recently moved from the NYC burbs across NJ to PA just across from Trenton. We were closer to Philly but Mom felt the local newscasters ‘didn’t have the right accent’ lol. As luck would have it our house had a ridiculously tall TV antenna with a rotor we could point straight to NYC. Thus, nightly dinner with Tom Snyder continued uninterrupted lol
Wendell Ladner of the Kentucky Colonels and New York Nets ABA teams died in this crash. Was wearing his ABA championship ring when his body was identified...
Erving did write about Ladner and this crash in his autobiography. Great friendship from Dr. J's perspective. Nets retired Ladner's number 4 after this crash.
Lost a sister-in-law and 2 nieces in this crash... They were enroute to Nice, France, to visit her parents. My brother would have been with them, but he couldn't arrange it with his superiors at NOPD.
Roger Tuttle was the V/O who handled the station ID prior to Henry Marcotte's editorial (Marcotte was one of the early 1010 WINS anchors from the start of its all-news days until about 1968; at WNBC, he was their first editorialist, before Joe Michaels and then Bud Carey). Also, interesting to see how Chyron's use for the lower-thirds and all seemed limited to the newscast at this point.
@treffynnon19 I'm sure that's him. It looks and sounds like him, and I've read a few bios of him that mention that he was a broadcaster for WNBC 4 as well as for the network
I was 10 and my dad was an Eastern 727 pilot based out of JFK and scheduled to land around that time at JFK. We never knew his exact schedule, flight # or even what route he was on. I didn’t that day until the news broke and my mom started crying and told us he was due home in a couple of hours, meaning same approx landing time. We thought for sure it was his flight. He flew the New Orleans route a lot and may have been that day on a later flight-not certain about that but we didn’t know. He called from the airport an hour or so later to let us know he was safely on the ground. We were incredibly relieved. He’d seen the wreckage from the air and had flown with several crew members including the captain. He got home a couple of hours later, gave us all a hug and went straight to bed. I had never seen him shaken like that and never did again.
*It's* *REALLY* *weird* to see Tom Snyder behind a news desk. I knew he was a newscaster before his late night show and other work, but it's still weird.
In those days Snyder's primary job was the WNBC news anchor. The Tomorrow Show was just a side job. In the late 70's Snyder went full time to the Tomorrow Show but did some assignments for NBC News as well. In the mid 80's after Tomorrow was cancelled Snyder spent a couple of years at the anchor desk of WABC-TV in New York.
My brother and I flew on Eastern Airlines flight 66 from New Orleans to New York earlier that summer on our way to Germany for the summer. I remember while in Germany hearing about the crash. On our way back, we flew on Eastern Airlines Flight 65 back from New York to New Orleans. I remember it was the Eastern Airlines Whisper Jet 727. I've often wondered if the earlier flight 66 from New Orleans to New York was same jet and flight crew as the one the crashed.
The way TV News handles something like this today is 100 percent different. Today they wouldn't cut away from the crash story and they would hypothesize about what happened or second-guess experts with questions like "Shouldn't they have...." I am not saying this way is better than what we do today but a news story takes time to develop. Today we don't give it that time and it leads to misinterpretation and misinformation.
All the discussion of air conditioning was prescient, as the summer of 1975 in NYC turned out to be the hottest on record. An infamous massive blackout took place that summer due to crushing demand on the power grid. On top of that, it became one of driest summers on record. It was so bad that NYC had to impose usage restrictions and levy hefty fines. I still remember the Public Service Announcements..... “Keep Noo Yawk Wet, Save Wah-tuh!”
No one knew what a microburst really was or understood it until 10 years later when Delta 191 went down in Dallas. No Doppler radar in 1975 either. Now days when they are on the phone with a reporter in the field the station goes to a commercial. Got to get that ad revenue.
It's interesting to note that the flight originated from New Orleans. I point this out because 7 years after this crash, another 727 belonging to Pan Am also became a victim of microburst while taking off FROM New Orleans.
I flew out of Kennedy that same night. I was 8 years old and going to Budapest, but I was flying to Luxemburg from Kennedy to catch a two-day bus ride to my final destination. I turned on the news before leaving for the airport. I told my mother and stepfather, and they yelled at me for making stupid jokes when they were nervous enough to let me fly by myself for the first time. We were delayed about six hours, not because of this crash but because heavy rain and thunder came back in if I remember correctly.
R.I.P. Wendell Ladner, former ABA New York Net. He was on this flight ✈️. I never got to see him play, he was way before my time, but I’ve seen documentaries and old highlight videos on his playing career. Dr. J called him the “Burt Reynolds” of the ABA. He always had a girl’s phone number at every game he played.
BlueBlaze YT The flight had just crossed 147th Ave. and was about to pass over Rockaway Blvd. before landing on runway 22L when it hit the wind shear, hit some of the approach tower lights and crashed..part of the plane skidded across Rockaway Blvd.
My Late Grandmother Lived in Jamaica Queens & was Visiting Us here in L.A. when the Plane Crashed at JFK, & my Late Mother Instructed me not to Say Anything to My Grandmother about the Crash cause it would Scare the Loving Shit out of Her on Flying Back to New York, She Left that Friday from LAX to JFK on American on June 27th 3 Days After that Devastating Crash on June 24th 1975.
Incorrect, Colbert's father and brothers died on another flight, Eastern 212, which crashed 9 months before this in Charlotte, NC. This was another crash where weather on approach played a part, but did not have to do with windshear like this one. The pilots of that flight simply weren't paying attention and descended too low in fog and hit the ground, killing 72 of the 82 people on board. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_212
@8:21 "Handsome Johnny" Roselli. He was one link that tied US Intelligence with the Mob and Castro plots. So was Sam Giancana, another Chicago Outfit figure recently clipped. Roselli got chatty with the feds. This got him floating in a steel drum off Miami a year later. Nothing personal, Johnny.
Back when the news was actually news. Speaking like real people, about some real things. And some people sometimes actually got in trouble for corruption.
No because windshear detection was almost non existent back then. Now days it would be pilot error if they choose to land in a thunderstorm as they have all the windshear information beforehand.
My uncle of this horrible crash was the Captain. Sadly his son was killed 3 years later on June, 13, 1978 in a helicopter crash. He was with the National guard. My family went through so much during this horrific time. My uncle and cousin were wonderful men.
god bless u
He and his crew really didn’t stand a chance with the unknown wind shear phenomenon back then.
❤🙏
@@jeffk19 I read article about this years ago. It seems a pilot of a flying tigers. DCA noticed the windshield or the descent of his airplane was coming a little too rapidly he was able to pull out and land safely .The Flying Tigers pilot advised the tower to change the runway to the Northwest runway which the tower never did.
I lost my father in that plane crash. It was like it happened yesterday and is burned into my memory. I was only 19 years old at the time and still miss my father very much.
I'm sorry for your loss.
So sorry
God bless.
Who was your father?
I particularly remember that day because I was working as one of the three NBC staff still photographers. I was asked to shoot stills from one of the TV screens in the kine room for the network. I shot a child's teddy bear resting on the ground, which ended up very large on the front page of the Arts section NY Times. The article was about whether or not the TV News was too intrusive during a catastrophe of this kind. It was the beginning of the small remote video cameras that had been recently developed for on-site recording. What really upset me, apart, of course, from the crash itself, was that it was my first photo credit received from NBC. I'd been fighting for us to get credit for our work and unfortunately, this was the first one - and in an article criticizing the TV media! As an aside, it's so strange and kind of sad, to see Tom, who was a kind of mentor for me. I miss him.
On that sad day, I was 18 years old and was at JFK with my parents standing in line to get my ticket. I was a student leaving to study abroad in Argentina. We heard a lot of commotion, crying/screaming as some of the other parents and students were passing around the newspaper with the article and pictures. My mother grabbed it out of my hand and told me not to look at it. I grabbed it right back and my reaction was total shock😮 She had fear in her eyes as if to tell me: you aren’t going! I will never ever forget that moment. I actually did go. I offer my deepest sympathies to all who lost loved ones in that horrific plane crash😢
My mom's neighborhood friend passed away in this crash a long with her younger sister and mother. The father was taking a flight the next day to meet up with them. All my mom remembers is seeing the dad get in his car and speed away. Really was a sad day for a lot of people.
How agonizing
Finally, some WNBC-TV footage featuring Tom Snyder!
Yes, he did do a excellent job anchoring the broadcast and segueing between crash updates and other news of the day. And he was as good of an ad-libber as anyone.
It is strange seeing Chuck Scarborough taking a secondary role here, but he'd already anchored his newscast at 5:00.
That's the thing. Times like that crash prove how Mr. Snyder was more than the caricature that would be portrayed by Dan Aykroyd on "SNL."
@@wmbrown6The irony is that TS ultimately preferred doing lighthearted interviews to the serious stuff. Peter Lassally and Robert Morton have said they intended for Tom to have a serious, newsmaking show when they hired him to be on after Letterman, but that’s not what Tom was interested in doing.
Yes, a sad day, but I am also pleased to finally see some footage of Tom hosting NC4. I was really shocked when he died, and WNBC only had footage of him anchoring for WABC in the 80's. On Chuck's anniversary, they have a couple of clips of him on NC4, but nothing of Snyder? Video tape was expensive back then, and no reason to have ever broadcast archived, but don't they have anything? Or was it too expensive to bring the tapes out of storage for an obit?
Tom had an ad lib in this video "hard to get excited about a deli truck crash".
I was 9 in 1975. Too young to understand or be interested in such things. Now I find this fascinating.
Interesting dialogue at 20:19 when the open mic picks up Frank Field trying to sell Tom Snyder on the medical story: "This is serious." You could tell Snyder was pretty pissed at having to read the deli truck story before the break and didn't want any more fluff.
Back when news and newscasters didn’t suck.
The happened on the day I graduated from high school. May all of the ones who lost R.I.P.
This was supposedly the first time that a New York TV station had ever done a live news report from the field with ENG (Electronic News Gathering) equipment, as opposed to cumbersome multi camera mobile units, which had been used on rare occasions prior to that.
WNBC reportedly got their first live ENG unit just days earlier.
You can tell here and in the NBC Nightly News report with Robert Hager that they were still working out a lot of kinks communicating with the crew in the field.
Nice archive aviation footage. Interesting at this time wind shear was a unknown phenomena that eventually claimed Pan Am 759 in New Orleans and Delta 191 in Dallas Ft Worth as well later in years.
I remember when this happened. About 20 minutes from my then home. I was very young. My father was a Nassau County police officer and received a call from a fellow officer asking if he was called to go in.
I was born that year... but I remember this hearing about it years later and the videos then that one of the babies was found inside the fathers chest due to the impact and he was holding him to brace him from the impact... devastating.
I was seven years old in 75.....last day of 1 st grade was June 23th......i remember the strong thunderstorms and then the massive explosion that was much louder and different than thunder......we lived maybe 4 miles away as the crow flies......i do remember they were showing a buffalo ring on the news to help identify a victim........i can never forget that explosion over that severe thunder.
What I would give to return to my 8 year old self of 1972, would not even equal all the gold in the world. What a wonderful and magical time it was to grow up in the 1970's and 1980's. I love watching these old commercials and broadcasts, but I did not like watching the news about the Eastern crash tragedy!
Who could know that tornado scientist Ted Fujita, assigned to investigate this crash, would play a huge role in descovering and defining WIND SHEAR for the airline industry?
Great newscast piece provided by the late Tom Snyder
If this had happened today there would be wall-to-wall coverage.
True. We would have seen at least two days of coverage like that of Malaysian Airlines flight 370 on CNN.
He was my dad's favorite news guy as I recall, long time ago.
I remember seeing this on the news. So sad. And man I miss those accents and slightly snarky delivery at times - takes me right back to my childhood. We’d recently moved from the NYC burbs across NJ to PA just across from Trenton. We were closer to Philly but Mom felt the local newscasters ‘didn’t have the right accent’ lol. As luck would have it our house had a ridiculously tall TV antenna with a rotor we could point straight to NYC. Thus, nightly dinner with Tom Snyder continued uninterrupted lol
My Aunt and Uncle died in this plane crash well before I was born
Sorry to hear that! God Bless you and your family!
Wendell Ladner of the Kentucky Colonels and New York Nets ABA teams died in this crash. Was wearing his ABA championship ring when his body was identified...
Yes. Doctor. J. Thought a lot of. Wendell and really liked him
Erving did write about Ladner and this crash in his autobiography. Great friendship from Dr. J's perspective. Nets retired Ladner's number 4 after this crash.
His mother grieved herself to death. Isn't that sad?
Lost a sister-in-law and 2 nieces in this crash... They were enroute to Nice, France, to visit her parents. My brother would have been with them, but he couldn't arrange it with his superiors at NOPD.
TOM WAS A PRO!!!
Roger Tuttle was the V/O who handled the station ID prior to Henry Marcotte's editorial (Marcotte was one of the early 1010 WINS anchors from the start of its all-news days until about 1968; at WNBC, he was their first editorialist, before Joe Michaels and then Bud Carey). Also, interesting to see how Chyron's use for the lower-thirds and all seemed limited to the newscast at this point.
@treffynnon19 I'm sure that's him. It looks and sounds like him, and I've read a few bios of him that mention that he was a broadcaster for WNBC 4 as well as for the network
I was 10 and my dad was an Eastern 727 pilot based out of JFK and scheduled to land around that time at JFK. We never knew his exact schedule, flight # or even what route he was on. I didn’t that day until the news broke and my mom started crying and told us he was due home in a couple of hours, meaning same approx landing time. We thought for sure it was his flight. He flew the New Orleans route a lot and may have been that day on a later flight-not certain about that but we didn’t know. He called from the airport an hour or so later to let us know he was safely on the ground. We were incredibly relieved. He’d seen the wreckage from the air and had flown with several crew members including the captain. He got home a couple of hours later, gave us all a hug and went straight to bed. I had never seen him shaken like that and never did again.
New York news legends here.
RIP Dr. Frank Field & Tom Snyder
*It's* *REALLY* *weird* to see Tom Snyder behind a news desk. I knew he was a newscaster before his late night show and other work, but it's still weird.
In those days Snyder's primary job was the WNBC news anchor. The Tomorrow Show was just a side job. In the late 70's Snyder went full time to the Tomorrow Show but did some assignments for NBC News as well. In the mid 80's after Tomorrow was cancelled Snyder spent a couple of years at the anchor desk of WABC-TV in New York.
This crash was the deadliest single plane crash in US history at the time.
The plane that crashed was Flight 66:
“Flight” is spelled with 6 letters
How I love hearing New York accents on the news. And real news.
My brother and I flew on Eastern Airlines flight 66 from New Orleans to New York earlier that summer on our way to Germany for the summer. I remember while in Germany hearing about the crash. On our way back, we flew on Eastern Airlines Flight 65 back from New York to New Orleans. I remember it was the Eastern Airlines Whisper Jet 727. I've often wondered if the earlier flight 66 from New Orleans to New York was same jet and flight crew as the one the crashed.
The way TV News handles something like this today is 100 percent different. Today they wouldn't cut away from the crash story and they would hypothesize about what happened or second-guess experts with questions like "Shouldn't they have...." I am not saying this way is better than what we do today but a news story takes time to develop. Today we don't give it that time and it leads to misinterpretation and misinformation.
I didn't realize Frank Field just passed away this July 2023 a age 100.
Very strong storms moved across Queens that day. I remember the one that passed through Flushing were I was living at the time.
All the discussion of air conditioning was prescient, as the summer of 1975 in NYC turned out to be the hottest on record. An infamous massive blackout took place that summer due to crushing demand on the power grid. On top of that, it became one of driest summers on record. It was so bad that NYC had to impose usage restrictions and levy hefty fines. I still remember the Public Service Announcements..... “Keep Noo Yawk Wet, Save Wah-tuh!”
The blackout was in the summer of 1977 on July 13th and 14th. There was another in NYC in 2003.
No one knew what a microburst really was or understood it until 10 years later when Delta 191 went down in Dallas. No Doppler radar in 1975 either.
Now days when they are on the phone with a reporter in the field the station goes to a commercial. Got to get that ad revenue.
It's interesting to note that the flight originated from New Orleans. I point this out because 7 years after this crash, another 727 belonging to Pan Am also became a victim of microburst while taking off FROM New Orleans.
Wow! What a 70s snapshot in time
I flew out of Kennedy that same night. I was 8 years old and going to Budapest, but I was flying to Luxemburg from Kennedy to catch a two-day bus ride to my final destination. I turned on the news before leaving for the airport. I told my mother and stepfather, and they yelled at me for making stupid jokes when they were nervous enough to let me fly by myself for the first time. We were delayed about six hours, not because of this crash but because heavy rain and thunder came back in if I remember correctly.
I remember that day!!
I was 8 living in Queens but I never heard of this crash.
R.I.P. Wendell Ladner, former ABA New York Net. He was on this flight ✈️. I never got to see him play, he was way before my time, but I’ve seen documentaries and old highlight videos on his playing career. Dr. J called him the “Burt Reynolds” of the ABA. He always had a girl’s phone number at every game he played.
I think chuck did the 6. Tom did a looser format at 5
Daniel Gravois In those days Scarborough anchored “NewsCenter 4” at 5:00, and Snyder did the 6:00 hour. I think Chuck did the 11:00 show as well.
Other way around, and Chuck did 11.
I feel for Eastern.. Three fatal accidents within a span of less than 3 years, being Flight 401 the most famous.
Was this near 147th Avenue?
BlueBlaze YT The flight had just crossed 147th Ave. and was about to pass over Rockaway Blvd. before landing on runway 22L when it hit the wind shear, hit some of the approach tower lights and crashed..part of the plane skidded across Rockaway Blvd.
Chuck was such a cutie!
My Late Grandmother Lived in Jamaica Queens & was Visiting Us here in L.A. when the Plane Crashed at JFK, & my Late Mother Instructed me not to Say Anything to My Grandmother about the Crash cause it would Scare the Loving Shit out of Her on Flying Back to New York, She Left that Friday from LAX to JFK on American on June 27th 3 Days After that Devastating Crash on June 24th 1975.
OMG I remember that broadcaster. Tom Snyder and he had a late night show.
Stephen Colbert lost his father and 2 brothers on this flight.
"Dr. J" Julius Erving lost his teammate and friend Wendell Ladner in the crash.
Incorrect, Colbert's father and brothers died on another flight, Eastern 212, which crashed 9 months before this in Charlotte, NC. This was another crash where weather on approach played a part, but did not have to do with windshear like this one. The pilots of that flight simply weren't paying attention and descended too low in fog and hit the ground, killing 72 of the 82 people on board.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines_Flight_212
He did? Man, you learn something new every day!
Back in the good old days when newscasters dressed Mafioso!
@8:21 "Handsome Johnny" Roselli. He was one link that tied US Intelligence with the Mob and Castro plots. So was Sam Giancana, another Chicago Outfit figure recently clipped. Roselli got chatty with the feds. This got him floating in a steel drum off Miami a year later. Nothing personal, Johnny.
Why is that man wearing a helmet?
Back when the news was actually news. Speaking like real people, about some real things. And some people sometimes actually got in trouble for corruption.
sad
Is This Pilot Error.
No, it wind shear.
No because windshear detection was almost non existent back then. Now days it would be pilot error if they choose to land in a thunderstorm as they have all the windshear information beforehand.
Microburst, so not really
SD SAD SAD
Sacha Baron Cohen's BRUNO looks like Tom Snyder?!
😫 tom Snyder