Low Cost LCR meter Shoot Out - Hantek 1833C, CEM, DER DE-5000, East Tester ET-433, Peak Atlas LCR45

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  • @twinkletoe-s
    @twinkletoe-s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't know if someones already mentioned this. But the DER DE-5000 can optionally be plugged into an external power supply (wall wort) and use it while plugged in. I also bought some 5,400 mAh 9v rechargeables for it too. Great meter and great video thanks !

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Tim! I need to get a DE-5000;) I like the 9V rechargeable too, but it is really handy to have the option just to plug it in.

  • @MoreCharactersThanNeeded
    @MoreCharactersThanNeeded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have the DER DE5000 and I got it with case and leads. Furthermore, it also has a power adapter so I don't have to worry about the battery.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback! I like the power adapter option.

    • @ironman7261
      @ironman7261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also have it but the pwr adapter is a 45 dollar option so pricey. Reasonably satisfied with it and chose it after seeing it reviewed on Eevblog video. But that Hantek is tempting

    • @MoreCharactersThanNeeded
      @MoreCharactersThanNeeded 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ironman7261 hmm, did not know that. Probably you could get an off the shelf adapter for a lot cheaper, that would really bring some bang for the buck.

  • @DarthMaul41
    @DarthMaul41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the Hantek LCR meter for a while now and there's a few things I'd like to say about it. First of all, it seems you have to calibrate it every time you turn it on, using the Cal button. It's annoying but it does help it stabilize, especially when you measure very low values like a few picos or very low resistances. Another thing, is about the probes. I bought the ones you call "shielded". They're called Kelvin probes and they're night and day in terms of precision compared to regular probes.
    There are many things I like about this meter, except for the fact that it drains the battery even if you turn it off, but it's a minor problem (at least for me) because you can just recharge it.
    Love your videos, subscribed!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for your great feedback! Yes you are right - they are first Kelvin and if they have shielding all the better;) I do like this Hantek. Do you find that if you let it warm up for a bit, and then calibrate it that it makes a difference?

    • @DarthMaul41
      @DarthMaul41 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KissAnalog Yes, I think I actually saw an advice in the user manual saying that you should wait a few minutes after turning it on and before start using it and I'm doing that every time I use it. I wait like 5 minutes then I calibrate it, then everything works well.

    • @MarkPalmer1000
      @MarkPalmer1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got a Hantek 1833C as a second LCR meter, and as you mentioned I found it strange that it doesn't save the open/shorted calibration figures into the non-volatile memory like my other LCR, an Applent AT-826 does. I find this annoying with the Hantek, as the open lead calibration takes it a while to do. But the Hantek was half the price of the Applent, so I guess it's a case of getting what you pay for.

  • @peteb2
    @peteb2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My Peak LCR45 developed an over contrast on the display. I mentioned it on the eevblog-forum & in a couple days Peak-Atlas reached out to sort the issue. They sent a set of spares including the LCD for free which included indepth instructions. In under 15mins it was perfect. My Hantek 1833C arrived & did nothing so i put it on a charger. It woke up for around an hour & ceased after that to power up and never operated since including using a Lab PSU feed. I reached out to Hantek telling them it now doesn't work, mentioned warranty & have heard nothing.... not even a squeak!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is great service! I do actually find Hantek difficult to contact... But luckily everything that I have from this is solid;)

  • @ronniepirtlejr2606
    @ronniepirtlejr2606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I clicked on the link you provided for the Hantek 1833C & the price has went up to $209.00
    I was considering buying it until I seen that!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback Ronnie! The price seems to changes randomly. It might be do to availability…. The 1832C is essentially the same but with a single test voltage level which I haven’t found the benefit yet of the two levels. It might come into play with very large - low impedance parts. It is priced a bit better at $154.

    • @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
      @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KissAnalog The benefit of the lower voltage testing above the higher one, is the ability to measure in-circuit and stay below the forward voltage of a lot of silicon junctions that may be in parallel or in the circuit somewhere. That lets you measure things unaffected.

  • @mosfet500
    @mosfet500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks Eddie, always great to watch your reviews. I have the DE-5000 but I'm thinking that all these guys are pretty close. One thing, even though you can zero the meters out I'm wondering if you should use the same leads for both meters when you do testing. I don't know if it would make a great difference but it might be interesting to check a component and then change the leads, zero it and check it again.
    I'm looking at the B&K 880 because it's 4 wire and I think that changes things, you can only get so much out of two wire, especially when you start looking at ESR and milliohms and stuff like that. It does cost a lot more - about $350, I guess it's what you need it for and how much use you'll get out of it. I don't do much RF work so maybe the B&K is overkill for me.
    One more thing, the DE-5000 does have a 9VDC plug so you can use an external source if it's on constantly.

    • @nikoror6899
      @nikoror6899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I second the BK Precision 880. Comes with all the accessories. Price is higher but can compete with some of the lab grade stuff

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the great feedback as always! I should have mentioned the power adapter option. I would like to see if I could find a low cost milliohm meter. That’s probably where these meters need the most help…and low value inductors for rf.

    • @mosfet500
      @mosfet500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KissAnalog I did some supercap work awhile ago, would have been nice to see something going up that high but I understand the logic of why these meters don't. I use my bench meters when I get into the low resistance area, you really need 4 wire for that. It's way above the price of these meters but if you want a really good meter get the Keysight 34465A. I have the older 34401A that was a landmark meter when they were Agilent and HP that does all my day to day stuff. I'm spoiled!

    • @edinfific2576
      @edinfific2576 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got the DE-5000, and I'm disappointed with its reduced ESR resolution for larger capacitors which actually NEED higher resolution due to their much lower ESR.
      I am now eyeing the BK880 and LCR Research Pro1.

    • @mosfet500
      @mosfet500 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edinfific2576 I have 880, I like it but don't know if it would work in your app.

  • @KonstantinGrigoriadis
    @KonstantinGrigoriadis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Eddie, Great Video Thankyou! I have the DER5000 for some Years now, its very battery-friendly even with the 9V Block (and Auto-Off). Further its has a 1mOhm Resolution in the Rs Range and 10mOhm in ESR Setting, is Relatively small(compared to the Hantek) and light. Cheers, Konstantin

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your feedback Konstantin! I think I might look for a deal on the DER5000;)

    • @la7yka
      @la7yka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the DE-5000 too, and it's always spot-on. Why it need 30 seconds calibration time, each "open" and "short", totally 60 seconds may be a mystery. But it works very well. It's not a new LCR-meter, but well proven with good reputation.

  • @fernandogalloso359
    @fernandogalloso359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Eddie, I am using the UNI-T UT612 and it is very good and it has USB communication and it has 20,000 counts with a nice case. I highly recommend it

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the tip! I’ll look into it!

  • @jms019
    @jms019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I tried to buy a DER early 2020 but it couldn’t get out of Japan due to you know what though you’d think they’d still allow exports. So I bought something which was UNI-T re-branded as TENMA. I felt it was (as it is) a Chinese copy also the tweezer is absolutely useless being made of cheese. Eventually I sent this back and successfully got a DER which I have been pretty happy with. I also own a PEAK ESR.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the great feedback! I think I still want to get a DER;)

  • @ulflanz7334
    @ulflanz7334 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One point might be the guarding. I think the hantek is the only one that has an active guarding. The other one uses shield as guarding. But because of the price and the external powersupply I have ordered the DE-5000.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a great point! Thank you!

  • @R2AUK
    @R2AUK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh, I didn't know about DER DE-5000. Thanks for the hint!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You bet. Thanks for your feedback!

  • @TRONMAGNUM2099
    @TRONMAGNUM2099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Hantek looks just like my portable Hantek Oscilloscope. I'm sure to save money they just repurposed the case. Hantek is well within spec for my needs. That might end up being my X-mas present for myself this year.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Tron - and you are right. I like the case and body of the meter so I think they did a good job to repurpose and give us a rechargeable battery too;)

  • @sharymens8187
    @sharymens8187 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Which one is your favorite? The conclusion to the video is missing

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for asking! It is hard for me to tell some one else what to buy -but I really do like the Hantek;)

  • @questionmark9684
    @questionmark9684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Eddie,
    I have the DER DE-5000 and it's ok. It doesn't eat up batteries as far as my experience goes, and you can plug in an adapter as well.
    But I'm not super convinced of the readings for ESR and Q. I don't have any idea how to test this.
    About low resistance measurements, though, your Keithley 2015 can take some really accurate measurements with Kelvin probes. And it has 6 1/2 digits, 100 microOhm resolution and 30 ppm accuracy...Why would you want to play around with handheld devices?
    The biggest drawback of these LCR meters, for me, is that they don't measure leakage... your Sencore does with several 100 volts, no?
    Cheers
    Mark

  • @hightttech
    @hightttech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for sharing. I still use Sencore LC-102 for big stuff, and BK Precision 886 and 885 for everything else. The leads look VERY disappointing on the meters you reviewed. Milliohm resolution is important to me (0.001Ω), but a meter with one digit of resolution ok for solenoids, big resistors, etc (10:1 rule). Finally, inserting components' leads into front slots will take it's toll; get proper clips or fixture. I think those contacts are gold plated, to mate with proper fixtures and leadsets, and a few thousand various sized components scratching away will take their toll.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing this! I thought about the BK, but a bit more than I wanted to spend:)

    • @hightttech
      @hightttech 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KissAnalog: I've been looking at the DE-5000 for on-the-go stuff. One of my Fluke 289's was stolen at a jobsite 😠, and i decided to put together a box of DECENT gear that yields less STING if damaged or stolen. But the leads on the DE-5000 are a joke; would need to upgrade. I'm going to look at your list again. You've already done some of the homework for me 👍. Hantek is interesting.

  • @paulthomas4917
    @paulthomas4917 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Hantek I have although has rechargeable batteries, so you would think that would be much more convenient, sadly the standby current of the meter when it is off is plainly quite high as if I haven't used it for a couple of weeks, the batteries will be flat, and need charging, it can operate of the charger at the same time as charging the batteries, but the readings jump all over the place, to the point the instrument is unstable! I am intending to upgrade the firmware to see if that helps. I understand that the hantek does not have a dedicated ADC, but uses the one in the processor, and we know they can be noisy so that would account for the unstable readings when running the meter off the charger.
    it would be better if there was a proper break on/off switch as its likly such meters are used infrequently. The other thing I would like to know, are there switching regulators being used in the hantek, and some of the noise is making the readings unstable.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great feedback! Thanks! I'll have to look into this. I do have other meters that I use so I do charge the Hantek before I use it, so I haven't noticed this. I'll try to put it in the condition you are talking about and see if I notice this.

  • @redsnappa7837
    @redsnappa7837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this comparison test Eddie, I think you tipped the balance in favour of the Hantek for me. Please tell me about the Vishay capacitance test board and the Coilcraft inductance one, are they still available or have you had them for years?

  • @arfer1470
    @arfer1470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just refurbished my Wayne Kerr b424 LCR meter, does the job for matching parts etc, I also have a Peak ESR70 for capacitors only which does ESR.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ian! Sounds like you are having fun!

  • @_IN_OD_
    @_IN_OD_ 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I never get so many ads as when I watch your videos. Not sure if it’s you or TH-cam but this is a struggle.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for letting me know. I don't have control of this - but I am wondering if it is because of the average length of watch time on my videos? I'll look into it and see if I do have any control. Maybe quality of content leads to higher average watch time = penalized by too many adds = slow growth of channel... Seems like a bad formula...

  • @ergunguler3981
    @ergunguler3981 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Merhaba. Video için teşekkür ederim. Et433 bende de var. Kullanıyorum. Fakat "RANGE" seçeneğini anlamadım. Ne işe yarıyor?

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The range button might be for manually selecting the measurement range. I don't have the ET433 (but I wish I did;).

  • @edic2619
    @edic2619 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the review on these meters. It helped me learn a great deal. Great job.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much!

  • @amplidude101
    @amplidude101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good review.
    I had the der de 5000, very nice meter, but fried it during some 100 volt large capacitor reforming, dont for get to discharge :) just got the hantek 1833c and it feels much better quality wise, but haven't really tried it yet, as to your review, what frequency did the z meter use? And you should get some reference parts I know they are expensive but very nice to have.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your feedback. I actually do have a few reference parts - I will have to do a video where I compare measurements and try to document what my parts are - as close as I can;)

  • @ceutelectronique
    @ceutelectronique ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good to see this shoot out.
    Could you add one of the Uni-T UT622 (A C or E) in this review ?
    It seems the Uni-T is the best of the lowcost meter (I'm looking for a LCR Meter).
    Thanks 👍

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks - I'll see if I can get one. I bought some of these meters and have already spent a lot on LCR meters;) But I'll see if I can get one;)

    • @ceutelectronique
      @ceutelectronique ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to read that 😀@@KissAnalog

  • @mossymaple
    @mossymaple 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, I was hoping you may have some insight of the accuracy differences of different ac line splitters. I have read reviews where some people say the 10x and 1x are off on some models when in theory they should be the same reading but just need a decimal place shift for the 10x vs 1x. Any thoughts?

  • @garydirkse9900
    @garydirkse9900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great extra thorough review. Your Z meter can reform capacitors and, test leakage. I miss the one I used at work.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes that is correct. These Z meters are pretty awesome and I have found them in many labs that I have worked - or had the equipment manager get one for the lab;) However - I need to get rid of some equipment so this one might have to go;)

  • @Tech-Relief
    @Tech-Relief 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have the DE 5000 and it came with the module with two short alligator clips and tweezers for smd stuff. The tweezers refuse to calibrate although i see nothing wrong with them. So i made op some leads with kelvin clips and they do calibrate so go figure.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your feedback! I do like the kelvin connection for the alligator leads, but the tweezers that I have don't work great either.

  • @gerykis
    @gerykis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wooo, those pretty instruments in the background ! Don't you want to go through quickly each one of them what those are and how do you use them ?

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks - that’s a great idea!

  • @fitcher-armchair-sleuth
    @fitcher-armchair-sleuth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate battery eating devices. Is there really a need to draw / use so much current?

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your feedback! I do like the rechargeable battery in the Hantek;)

  • @alex-zu9zj
    @alex-zu9zj ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings
    Congratulations for your videos
    I should buy an LCR
    Which one would you buy between the DE-5000 and the CEM DT9935?

  • @ASJC27
    @ASJC27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No worries about the battery consumption of the DE-5000. It's pretty good. I've had mine since late 2018 and have yet to replace the battery.
    It sees only occasional use, so for someone who uses it every day it might be a different story, but I think for most use cases the consumption is low enough to be a non issue. You can also get a power adapter for it, but at that point you might consider a benchtop model.

    • @LegacyMicro
      @LegacyMicro ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the same DER 5000. I think it's a great meter for hobbyists . I think I paid well over $130 but I wanted all the options. It gives decent readings "in circuit" with the optional tweezers. Plus it's made in Taiwan and NOT CHINA!

    • @kryzoxy1
      @kryzoxy1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LegacyMicro What's the problem with the equipment made in China, many people complains about it, but almost all is made in China, good and bad, cheap or expensive...

  • @alvaro_5508
    @alvaro_5508 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello, I was watching the video carefully and I found it very interesting, my question is: which of these meters is capable of measuring capacitors in circuit? Thank you very much in advance and congratulations for your work!!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks - great question! I think they all will to a degree. It can depend on the circuit.

  • @sharymens8187
    @sharymens8187 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for your feedback!

  • @videoalyoum5904
    @videoalyoum5904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ايهما افضل ممكن تفيدني

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great question! I do like the Hantek amzn.to/3Qh0Zfx

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The cem tweezers are for checking in circuit caps for esr I suspect.
    Sorry for all the comments. I just remembered. Have you seen the new high-end hantek bench stuff. Not the dso but the psus and the 7.5 digit multimeter and 3 channel signal gen. I don't know how good they are but the black industrial design is super nice. They're jet black like the new rigol stuff.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you are correct about the tweezers;)
      I have been looking at some of the Hantek stuff - it looks really nice - but they are not easy to reach and don't seem interested in sending me things to review - even on a loan basis.

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KissAnalog don't throw any money at it for goods sake. One of the happiest days of my life was getting rid of my hantek scope

  • @joehubler4965
    @joehubler4965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have de 5000, I have about 10 in-use hours on it with the same battery

  • @tonysfun
    @tonysfun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the entire kit+case DER DE-5000 and I love it. It also came with power adapter, so you don't use batteries, but I hate the corded meters, so I don't use it. Thanks for sharing!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Tony! I think that's a fantastic option;)

    • @tonysfun
      @tonysfun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KissAnalog Would you like me to test it - something specific for your needs? Also, I have the same batteries there I had since day one, but heavier usage would test the batteries and how long they last. It also has a computer connection and software, so one could also sort parts and their values.....

  • @ozzfestone
    @ozzfestone 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I have to pay for an LCR among those that I will list capable of precise reading of small inductances of the 1 microfarad type and they are: Hantek 1833C, CEM DT-9935, DER DE-5000 and the classic PEAK LCR45, which one do you recommend? . I thank you in advance.

  • @MrDoneboy
    @MrDoneboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much, Eddie!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You bet Don! And thank you!

  • @silviuguseila2552
    @silviuguseila2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which one of those can be used to measure internal resistance of batteries? Thanks

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think any of these would do that. I’ll show in a future video on how to do this.

  • @MrDoneboy
    @MrDoneboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for your generosity!!

  • @marcfruchtman9473
    @marcfruchtman9473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Eddie, I like that we can see the variety of functions and how each meter behaves. But, it's a little hard without a LCR calibration standard to check against?
    Also, do you have a recommendation for a similar LCR meter that can handle larger farad values?
    Thanks for the video.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your feedback. Real standards are very expensive, and I think most meters pretty much meet their spec, so I find it more how they work and compare in features. Funny thing is that there are some multimeters that measure very large capacitors - higher than many LCR meters. How big a capacitor would you like to read?

  • @Novaterra892
    @Novaterra892 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Qual desses modelos vc escolheu et430 ou hantek 1833?

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great question! I think they are the same under different names.

  • @tylerpeppy1450
    @tylerpeppy1450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep up the awesome videos!

  • @andytwgss
    @andytwgss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you find your 1833C so far? Anything particularly useful, like or dislike?

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great Question Andy! I do like the recharging built in battery. I am pretty happy with it right now. I'll be using it a lot soon, so I'll see if anything pops up as a dislike.

    • @andytwgss
      @andytwgss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KissAnalog can't wait to see! Thanks!

  • @mihaiachim5299
    @mihaiachim5299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i daily drive an extech lcr 200 meter and I have another 2 keysight u1733c lcr meters for backup ...

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice meters;) Thanks for your feedback!

  • @dipakbhalodia7155
    @dipakbhalodia7155 ปีที่แล้ว

    DE5000 ESR METER I can use meters in circus test capacitor esr value please answer

  • @sunuk1915
    @sunuk1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much for new episode of review and comparison very useful
    Industrial Grade meter review 👏👏💖

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So nice of you. I appreciate your great feedback as always!

    • @sunuk1915
      @sunuk1915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KissAnalog respect you and your every word's 🙏💝

  • @rockon1122
    @rockon1122 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is best LCR meter price wise that can do up to 1Mhz with any given frequency?

  • @Homer19521
    @Homer19521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the Kelvin leads on my DER DE5000. Close enough for who it's for.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your feedback! I like those as well - I think its a great addition.

  • @Bakafish
    @Bakafish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Peak, and it didn’t work at all with big power caps. I just got the very pricey Agilent/HP/Keysight U1733C unit, would love to see how it compares.

  • @GraditelMacedonia
    @GraditelMacedonia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why you not put on HOLD one meter for better comparison???

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the suggestion. Do you mean to take one reading then put it on hold - and then take the reading with the next meter to compare?

    • @GraditelMacedonia
      @GraditelMacedonia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KissAnalog Yes.

  • @thogevoll
    @thogevoll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems to me that if you are interested in RF peration that you might want as high a frequency as you can get.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes - I would agree with you. Thank you for your feedback!

  • @Mrjlasr09
    @Mrjlasr09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi Eddie i have a tenma 72-960 which works well

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I’ll check it out;)

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now ya got a new one Eddie you can sell me one. I don't need the most fancy one. Just one I can whip out on occasion when I wind inductors as well haha

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Joey! I do want to start selling some of my equipment as I need to recoup some of the money that I have on my credit card;)

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KissAnalog I have an lcr meter brother. It was cheap but works. You know my opinion on the sale of Aho Overstock sales haha

  • @andros2112
    @andros2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video! I'm in the market for a precision low value inductance meter in order to wind and adjust torroids for a low pass filter. You mentioned interest in the same, and I hope you produce a video that depicts your findings.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I do plan to do this - and I think I might in the series I'm working on now which is the JAT collaboration power supply design. I will probably make an inductor for this and so it will work in great to try these LCR meters.

  • @jaymclemore9497
    @jaymclemore9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice meters, but probably way more than I really need. For an entry level, do you still like the Bside, or others?
    Enjoyed the video!

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Jay! I almost brought out the Bside, but then the video would have been even longer;) I think it is hard to beat the price of the Bside;)

  • @friedmule5403
    @friedmule5403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your great review! :-) I do myself own a DER, was so lucky to get a used one for about $30, I have bought rechargeable 9V batteries, and it works fine for my seldom usage. I am thinking about if you can talk about glue or whatever is used to secure components on the board, I have seen Mr. EEV troubleshoot some gear where the fault was the glue that was become conductive over the years. Is that possible to know beforehand? Maybe using a Giga Ohm resistance meter or?

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! That's a great price! I also use rechargeable 9v batteries, but for my Hantek current probe;) Thanks, I'll have to do one on this subject;)

    • @Fhokerfhaze
      @Fhokerfhaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can actually detect those moisture build up using cheap analog meter witn x10k ohms range, including leaks on diode and transistors

  • @InssiAjaton
    @InssiAjaton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am thinking your range table is badly limited. For example the DE5000 at 100 kHz frequency reads with 1 nH and 0.01 pF resolution. The DC and AC resistance ranges also go way lower than your list. Of course, if you are limiting the table to 100 Hz, just about all the resolutions are likely to be much coarser. On the other hand, the maximum ranges tend to be much higher. So, to get apples to apples comparisons, you must take the frequency into account.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great feedback! It is great that there are different frequencies - and they are important for the different capacitor types.

  • @nnnvp
    @nnnvp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have Lutron LCR-9183
    its very good to compare with Instek LCR-819!

    • @mosfet500
      @mosfet500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had the Instek, it was a very good meter but big and clunky, I guess if you're getting a lot of use out of it it's worth it but my bench has limited space so I got rid of it. Sometimes I miss it though, it's a lot better than these guys but it should be for the price.

  • @Onkel.Moetrik
    @Onkel.Moetrik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh dear..😁
    Now I am even more confused. I need a cap tester, and I have a Hantek dso5202. Therefore I decided for a 1833, but if I buy the East Tester 432 I get the kelvin clip for free.. that's about 80$ extra for the Hantek. I am just a simple hobby guy, but I don't want to buy to small. I could probably do with a Mesr 100, ( highly recommend by Richard from Learn Electronics repair channel) but that is almost a 100 us, so I might as well go for something bigger/better that is more future proof. What does people think;
    Is the East tester just as good as the Hantek when I only need it for hobby and namely smps repair?
    Thank from Denmark. Nice video btw, but I did miss some sort of a conclusion 🤗

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear from friends in Denmark. The Mesr100 is only for capacitors where the Hantek and East Tester can do capacitors and resistors too, The East Tester looks great and I'd like to get one to review, but they are a bit pricy. The 433 is not much more than the 432, so I'd go with that one: amzn.to/3Qcncdr
      But the Hantek 1833 is great and might be as good in specs as the East Tester but much better price: amzn.to/3scRpkH

  • @engjds
    @engjds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The speed of that CEM is a deal breaker, its no faster than a meter with cap testing, in over two decades in electronics professionally I have never measured inductance above 10H, maybe some weird RF guy has, but normal folk do not need above that).
    Keysight also do one, but its over a grand, the Peak ones seem to get good reviews, but built in leads without sockets puts me off, so it really only leaves us with the Hantek or that DER, BUT the DER seems to be firmly chinglish, low quality internals judging the pictures online, so yeah Hantek baby! (shame about the dim display though!).
    One note, it should have a zero out function or relative, thats pretty essential, did you not find it on the Hantek?

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It does appear that the East meter is pretty much identical to the Hantek, and as of this write is $20 cheaper than the Hantek.

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ed I was going to buy that Der last year and the price jumped like a hundred bucks more haha. I have a cheap one. I have a decent little esr meter though. Got it on sale last year for 45 when it was usually 120.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I ran into the same thing. I swore the price was better - but when I was ready to buy the price was a bit high for me to just review it;)

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KissAnalog man. You'll never believe but we just lost half our home and belongings in a hurricane. There was a line where you tear your house down and rebuild and we narrowly avoided it my friend. I apologize for nagging Ed. I was trying to help you and me at the same time. 2 to 300k in damages but atleast us and the brood of rescued cats we have are ok. We prepared for it but you never think it'll happen to you.
      This is the only app that works but I have to download videos and can see the notifications. I just needed somewhere to vent my friend.

  • @jwong19
    @jwong19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The DER EE (DE-5000) when you buy it as a complte set, you get, the tweezers, the USB cable and transmitter, the guard cable ( green one), the test instrument, the power supply that gives you the choice to stay on as long as you wish because it disconect the APO (Automatic Power Off function) that permits when battery use to save energy, also you get the short connector for component measurements, the owners manual, the installation software CD, and the usb cable, and finally the protection case.
    In my lab, I have all the instruments that Sencore made, LCs up to the last one until they sell the company (The LC 103 "Resolver"), that includes their test calibration gear for the LCs, the frequency counters, etc...also al their published News letters and magazines, trainings, for LCRs, VCRs, TV (Scopes, Signal Gen...) the Audio Analyzer PA-81, with the accessory that enhance the measurements up to 5000W...a long story...
    From Agilent, Fluke, Yokogawa, Tinsley, Aim TT, Brymen, Beckman, Hioki, many test gear for my journey that with 70 years continues the saga...Since vacum tubes , to this days playing, programming and designing with Aduinos, Beaglebone Black, Pi's...etc.
    And my friend, following you, enjoying with your great joy, behind the " Tools of the trade". My respects as always from this side of the Caribbean...

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! It sounds like you must have a great story! I appreciate you!

    • @jwong19
      @jwong19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KissAnalog My respects always for you. Keep going young man and great engineer. God bless you and your family as well from and old retired nuclear physicist and electronic engineer.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Your story is getting more interesting all the time:)

  • @brunomahle1618
    @brunomahle1618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have de 5000 with modded leads.....like it

  • @turkalpkucur
    @turkalpkucur 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome! Thanks for your feedback!

  • @stevenbliss989
    @stevenbliss989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have several meters, including a clone of the CEM, which is cloned ALL over the place, all using the same LCR chip, INCLUDING the DE-5000!!!!!!! They are expensive`ish (i.e. CRAP VALUE )but are ok. The the Hantek looks way better (especially on value/price), and I have been coveting it for some 5 months now, still sitting in my eBay basket, so THANK YOU for your review! :)
    BTW the Peak thing you showed was reviewed by a British channel - don't remember channel name - Yeah it is not great, and the price for it is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!
    Peak in general is way overpriced for what you get!

  • @IliyaOsnovikov
    @IliyaOsnovikov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems that Hantek has 4 wire measuring option only at built in terminals. So I don't quite understand how could it have such low resistance range working with test leads? That looks more like a gimmick.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the question! It needs to be calibrated with test leads or at terminals - whichever the measurement is done with. The terminals are best of course;)

    • @MarkPalmer1000
      @MarkPalmer1000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KissAnalog what gets me is that the lead calibration figures aren't saved into the Hantek 1833C's memory at power off. So if you use the same test leads/fixture all the time which most people do, you have to go through the open/shorted lead calibration process every time you power the meter on. It wouldn't be such a big deal if it didn't take this stupid meter such a dreadfully long time to complete the process.

  • @jacek7178
    @jacek7178 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The parameters for ET433 on the paper are to good to be real.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've wanted to pick up an ET433. They are a bit expensive for a handheld LCR meter, but if they are that good - maybe they are worth it. For a bit more, you can get the Matrix that I have, which has great specs: amzn.to/3KMjxku

    • @jacek7178
      @jacek7178 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KissAnalog ET433 has 2 special sexy features: 1. Frequency is continuously adjustable by
      1Hz stepping and 2. voltage: 0-500 mV adjustable, 1 mV steps + 0.1Vrms、0.3Vrms、0.6Vrms 1Vrms.
      ------ MCR - 5100 for $680 corresponds to ET4510 for $332 continuous, till 2V
      The question is how good 433 works? Many features, many errors :)
      Regards

  • @Onkel.Moetrik
    @Onkel.Moetrik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi
    I just got my ET 432 today. It is very much like the Hantek, but it is cheaper** and has better specs. Also the kelvin probe and the charger plus battery is standard. I paid 190$ including shipping. There is only one (1) video on TH-cam, and one in a very foreign language 😅 so no help here. Maybe you could make one (the video where you just showed a picture of it doesn't count! 😁😄)
    ** The Hantek is sold without battery (on ALIX) and kelvin probe, so with this the ET is a little cheaper. But the ET comes without a bag. I also had to choose between a Hantek handheld scope/multimeter and a owon, here I went with the owon since it had a larger screen. Finally I also bought a Fnirsi tablet scope because I wanted a floating scope, and also a scope with touch screen. The Fnirsi get very mixed reviews, and it may be more of a toy 😜
    Kind regards
    Claus
    Denmark

    • @Onkel.Moetrik
      @Onkel.Moetrik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually I do have a floating scope, because my Hantek dso5202p is running on a Studer inverter/battery..
      I am actually making a new PSU with buck converters, so I can put lion batteries in it..
      I'm very afraid of toasting my scopes.. BANG! - as Dave downunder calls it😄

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your feedback! I looked at the ET432 again today, but it is a bit expensive now. I do want to get it, but I need to wait awhile and save up;)
      Great to hear from our friends in Denmark;) How do you like the Fnirsi?

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did a video on how to keep your scope safe, but I think I need to do a follow up;)

    • @Onkel.Moetrik
      @Onkel.Moetrik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KissAnalog
      Hi Eddie
      The Fnirsi is still travelling, but I get the Owon scope/DMM this week, and that I am very excited to try. I did se your video about scope grounding - and many others. If you need inspiration for a new video, please take a look her: th-cam.com/video/LFH9pBTttic/w-d-xo.html
      That you should test! and maybe even hack it 🙂 I know it is possible to hack so it can handle more power. When I say there is no video, I mean English videos. This load is probably the most affordable load you can get. 600 watt 100$...
      About the ET remember it is with Kelvin probe, the Hantek probe is 50$ alone
      Claus

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I'll see if I can get one.

  • @gtcollection6933
    @gtcollection6933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Ed, good compares. I have the East Tester unit and really can't find anything to complain about, a little disappointed you didn't gave that badboy a good beating! On the model I have here the FREQ/LEVEL/BIAS all have adjustable resolutions (e.g. FREQ with 1Hz step resolution, 1Hz-to-100kHz) much like those benchtop high end LCRs does. Has DCR too, but particularly like the SCPI interface and commands, I have it comm via USB to a custom UI and charting/analysis software I wrote last year for it. ps. you're gaining weight, watchout ;)

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the great feedback! You are right - I need to start working out again;)

    • @BobaFettBountyHunter
      @BobaFettBountyHunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a rude comment! When you edited it, did any part of you think it might be a good idea to remove the rude part of your comment?

  • @rectify2003
    @rectify2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant 👍

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!!

    • @rectify2003
      @rectify2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KissAnalog Your Welcome 😇

  • @pccgbpetondal3369
    @pccgbpetondal3369 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good content but please stop waving your hands, fingers,etc. in front of the camera when the purpose of the view is to show the meter, the component, etc. Every time the camera re-focuses so one just sees a blurry unfocused image. Also pre-plan your tests rather than the confusing scatter-gun approach you adopt. Makes following comparisons almost impossible. I use the Hantek 1833c plus other L/C and ESR meters. Keep up the good work.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your feedback. This is a bit older video and I’m trying to improve all the time do I hope the more recent videos are better:)

  • @marekmosat7176
    @marekmosat7176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you sir for your experience and comments, for me it was really informative.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! I appreciate you!

  • @misseryguts
    @misseryguts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought a Hantek occiloscope and it failed after just over a year. Turns out it was bad solder joints, so many the unit was not worth repairing, a total loss. Would never buy another Hantek device.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing that! I've been lucky so far and have had no troubles. I hope others give feedback here on their experiences.

  • @PoiSonSonic
    @PoiSonSonic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't dislike the great video enough because of autofocus. It makes my eyes hurt.

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry you found it so bad. I've spent a lot of money to try and get good equipment but it is difficult to get it all right all the time.

  • @TMS5100
    @TMS5100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DER DE-5000 is time tested and proven.

  • @KostyanichW
    @KostyanichW ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hantek need calibration before use)

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes great point. Most of the better LCR meters will require calibration before use for the best measurements.

  • @TeTe76VTheChiken
    @TeTe76VTheChiken ปีที่แล้ว +2

    low cost... yeah

  • @8Junio76
    @8Junio76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Hantek has no guard

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean it doesn't have a Safety ground connection? It is a battery operated device, so it doesn't really need one.

  • @augustinradupereni4688
    @augustinradupereni4688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍🎞👍🍀

  • @CeZero4
    @CeZero4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Z-meter, sth what ruzzians really need these days🤣

  • @guillermoiturriaga7863
    @guillermoiturriaga7863 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Low cost ?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🤦🤦🤦

    • @KissAnalog
      @KissAnalog  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Funny guy;) Do you have a favorite?

    • @guillermoiturriaga7863
      @guillermoiturriaga7863 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KissAnalog
      Peak atlas 70 AND mesr-100 🤫