A lot of comments here seem to think reversing the path of the ace would make it do more damage, but FYI that's not the case. Simple explanation in this follow up vid here: th-cam.com/video/zWuSHHxfZXs/w-d-xo.html
Here's some interesting stuff about the Tsar Bomba upgrade: a) It's the only upgrade in BTD6 to have a real life counterpart (including ammo, that being the largest nuclear bomb set off) b) Because of the real life counterpart, we can calculate the energy it takes to get 1 pop. c) Here's the calculation: The real bomb released an estimated amount of 210-240 Petajoules; we'll go with 210 to be conservative. The ingame ability can deal up to 3,000 damage to 5,000 bloons, which means that when all energy is absorbed (pierce capped and max damage), it releases 15,000,000 damage. This means that 210,000,000,000,000,000 joules is approximately 15,000,000 damage, at a staggering 14,000,000,000 joules per damage. Moral of point c, don't underestimate a 0-0-0 dart monkey; it regularly throws a dart with the energy of about 2 lighting strikes. d) From the looks of it, the Tsar Bomba plane appears to match in design to the Tu-95V bomber, the plane that dropped the real Tsar Bomba. Assuming that the cost of the ingame upgrade in medium mode prices is only the price of the plane itself and not its ammunition or fuel, then we can take the price of building a real Tu-95V bomber and assume that they are equal in cost e) Here's the calculation for that: From what I can find, a Tu-95V bomber costed approximately 26.28 million USD. The ingame medium mode price for the upgrade is 30,000 ingame currency, leaving us with a roughly 876 USD per ingame unit. Moral of point e, you can buy the sun god for about 438,000,000 USD in real life. Have fun with that.
Point C is a little off, since layerskipping means the tsar can technically deal up to 14,738 damage with 5,000 pierce, meaning one damage is approximately 2.85 billion joules which is still a staggering amount, but it does mean that a 000 dart monkey throws a dart with "only" about 1 lightning strike of power every second. Still absolutely ridiculous considering a single dart monkey can consistently power about 5 million houses
It would be better only with super-heavy micro, where you always asap move the ace to the point it always throws bombs on the BAD. helps little to no against ddt's tought.
Bloon 1: "Comrades, the Monkeys are carpet bombing the next track we have to conquer." Bloon 2: "They're... what?" Bloon 1: "They're carpet bombing it." The carpet bombing in question 14:56
Imagine just being born you look are your mom loving eyes and she says “lets call him use code isab” your looks turns to horror as you see your dad nod in disapointment
We have supersonic bombers. You'll see them in the distance, then not anymore. You'll hear them coming, then nothing at all. You'll see the payload, then you can't. Bright lights, then black
Technically it would be better if the ace route was just a bit smaller than the circle, so that all darts hit always at all time whilst the bombs still hit the bloons. But just technically, still an awesome video and much love for you man
Isab, would having the bloons move the same direction the ace is flying increase the single target DPS? Then the ace would be over everything for a longer period of time. Then again, flying against each other it would fly over the bloon more often. Something to test if you want.
as a long time youtube watcher I think isab should have a donation link so I can support him. I don't like giving money to twitch or 3rd parties and just want to give what's appropriate for someone who has been very consistent in making good videos.
Wouldnt a figure 8 pattern flight and map make the damage higher since the bombs at the cross section would hit double the ballons. Also for dart efficiency, i think having a bigger figure 8 track around the normal figure 8 track would let less darts be lost. That map would also probably be the best map for the 500 monkey ace
not energizering the ace for cdr also and i get that it would probably deal to much damage but a 5-x-x buccaneer would also be a good support for the tzar
İsab my friend nice video but if you turn the plane ratation the bombs start the chase the and instead of hitting every turn it will constantly Damage if speed is same
Crosspathing Alchemist to 420 makes the buff apply to a single tower more frequently, and lasts for more shots (unless this was ever changed, haven't played since a couple updates).
Would it be better if the bloons and ace were going the same direction either bother clockwise or counterclockwise, wouldn't that allow the bombs to hit things like BADs a lot more per circle
I could 100% be wrong but I think you can use unfinished tracks (without an exit) and I think no bloons will go there and maybe the bomber sees it as track? That is if you can even play a map with an unfinished track like that.
@ISAB why make the path go counter-clockwise? Doesn't the plane go clock-wise? So shouldn't the path be goint clock-wise to maximize the amount of damage? Also the faster the ballon moves opposite of the plane the less leeway you get to hit bombs.
I wonder if Ace micro would have done it there. If you switched the Ace to reverse, a good portion of the bombs would fall with the BAD's movement instead of against it, and thus dealing more damage. Whenever the Ace would pass the BAD, you reverse it again.
Hello ISAB. i would like to suggest a video idea. can you please god boost the comanche commander. i think its a very underrated tower and would be very good to god boost. keep up the good content 👍
Wouldn’t it be way better to have slightly smaller circles, alternating with slightly bigger circles? Bomb range would hit the same, but that way the side arrows would hit, instead of going directly outside the path?
probably wouldnt make much of a difference but i feel like having the plane fly the other way would do more damage. having it follow bloons rather than go against the grain to stay on top of them for longer.
Would reversing the direction help the ace? I know it would take longer to get back, but I feel like it would have better damage output on single target especially.
Wouldn't this technically be *with* the grain when referring to wood? Up and down is essential the same, but when you go horizontal it's truly against the grain.
A de- camo sub so you don't have to rely on overclock? Did you forget about your mib? That upgrade before mib is camo detect? And I assume that was just for your temple bc the bomber ace has camo build in to the path anyways?
try getting dart paragon next if its doable, dartagon perfect map would go hard (the best track should be something like the longest map w/ walls on both sides since the paragon balls can bounce around a lot more)
I've said this before but wouldn't having the ace fly the same direction as the bloons be better? It would mean it's on top of a single bloon for longer which would increase single target
I'm surprised that Tsar Bomba doesn't increase the damage of the bombs at all. It feels like they just forgot, considering how many other towers that used to be like that were changed.
Would’ve been nice if you tested if counterclockwise performed better, haven’t tested but I would think it has better single target damage since it’d be on top of a bad for longer
I wonder if a smaller track with a figure 8 in would have been better so the ace spends more time dropping bombs directly on the bad. Also why not put Pat in the water to take advantage of the energizer cooldown reduction
what about changing the direction of the bomber ace so that it travelled in the same direction as the bloons? would this not yield more damage as it has slightly higher time above the bloons?
Yes, and no. The knowledge point ONLY applies to the pineapples from the T1, which get removed upon the T3 of the same path. Bomber Ace naturally drops its bombs near the track.
@@jksbdvd that's not what I asked. I asked why he needed the decamo sub, not why he submerged a sub. If you pay attention he purchased one while one already existed.
The bomber ace misses a bomb in the SSE corner. this is so sad. Well at least I can thank Isab for popping the bloons (P.S.) the cleansing foam removing camo from ddts prevents the spy plane +1 damage
A lot of comments here seem to think reversing the path of the ace would make it do more damage, but FYI that's not the case. Simple explanation in this follow up vid here: th-cam.com/video/zWuSHHxfZXs/w-d-xo.html
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Here's some interesting stuff about the Tsar Bomba upgrade:
a) It's the only upgrade in BTD6 to have a real life counterpart (including ammo, that being the largest nuclear bomb set off)
b) Because of the real life counterpart, we can calculate the energy it takes to get 1 pop.
c) Here's the calculation: The real bomb released an estimated amount of 210-240 Petajoules; we'll go with 210 to be conservative. The ingame ability can deal up to 3,000 damage to 5,000 bloons, which means that when all energy is absorbed (pierce capped and max damage), it releases 15,000,000 damage. This means that 210,000,000,000,000,000 joules is approximately 15,000,000 damage, at a staggering 14,000,000,000 joules per damage.
Moral of point c, don't underestimate a 0-0-0 dart monkey; it regularly throws a dart with the energy of about 2 lighting strikes.
d) From the looks of it, the Tsar Bomba plane appears to match in design to the Tu-95V bomber, the plane that dropped the real Tsar Bomba. Assuming that the cost of the ingame upgrade in medium mode prices is only the price of the plane itself and not its ammunition or fuel, then we can take the price of building a real Tu-95V bomber and assume that they are equal in cost
e) Here's the calculation for that: From what I can find, a Tu-95V bomber costed approximately 26.28 million USD. The ingame medium mode price for the upgrade is 30,000 ingame currency, leaving us with a roughly 876 USD per ingame unit.
Moral of point e, you can buy the sun god for about 438,000,000 USD in real life. Have fun with that.
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Point C is a little off, since layerskipping means the tsar can technically deal up to 14,738 damage with 5,000 pierce, meaning one damage is approximately 2.85 billion joules which is still a staggering amount, but it does mean that a 000 dart monkey throws a dart with "only" about 1 lightning strike of power every second. Still absolutely ridiculous considering a single dart monkey can consistently power about 5 million houses
@@pickandshotmonkeys just trained different
Also with the dart monkey claim, how much force in lighting bolts would heart of thunder let out?
@@Tacojohns123 A single heart of thunder has the power of about 30 lightning bolts since it does 2 damage with 32 pierce
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9:54 enjoy the loading screen of DDTs
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10:12 this is also one good one
fun fact they are called throbbers
11:03 "and a decamo sub so we don't have to deal with them using cleansing foam"
MIB: "wait what"
Not to mention center path ace does more damage to camo so decamo made it do less damage to DDTs
and he already had a sub down :sigh:
Wouldn't it be better if the ace was flying counterclockwise?
That doesnt really matter with a map that long
@@tarekk6427For single target swapping directions would be a lot better though, right?
@@tarekk6427it probably would
It would be better only with super-heavy micro, where you always asap move the ace to the point it always throws bombs on the BAD. helps little to no against ddt's tought.
@@grmigrim9834 yes it would increase dps and damage, but in this context it still wouldnt help against 140 with the 240,, maybe with the 250 tho
Bloon 1: "Comrades, the Monkeys are carpet bombing the next track we have to conquer."
Bloon 2: "They're... what?"
Bloon 1: "They're carpet bombing it."
The carpet bombing in question 14:56
Imagine just being born you look are your mom loving eyes and she says “lets call him use code isab” your looks turns to horror as you see your dad nod in disapointment
i had a stroke, like so fucking hard and it was embarrassing, damn you and your stupid spelling mistake.
Duck.
4:17 QUIT EDGING US AND JUST PLACE DOWN FUSTY‼️
Literally bro
4:46 Playlist for the best maps for each tower would be helpful
They're in his super-buffing playlist
Love your videos Isab. I always love to watch someone who knows how to play this game so well
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fast bomber ace is terrifying imagine that thing flying iver your neighborhood
We have supersonic bombers. You'll see them in the distance, then not anymore. You'll hear them coming, then nothing at all. You'll see the payload, then you can't. Bright lights, then black
as a ddt I'll probably be fine
@@romansrevengethethirdstrik8086as a 250 village, no, you wont be fine
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I can walk around the path, so I'd be fine
4:46 Speaking of this table, I think a new playlist for these types of perfect map videos should be made.
I love watching Isab and not sleeping
same
why buy a second sub at 11:03 when you already have a sub that's closer to the front, as well as a 042 village lol
Because the first was not under the influence of the sun temple.
@@DeJay7Yeah but isab still had the 042 village… which includes the x2x crosspath, the radar scanner
@@DeJay7you can see later in the video he move the 000 sub so he could have just moved it closer to the temple then moved it away
Because the sun temple was outside the range of the village, thus needing a de-camo. Also because the first sub wasnt under the temple discount.
Out of the whole series, this is definitely the most satisfying one.
Thanks ISAB for pumping us with content and leave us dripping for more
Thanks for covering yourself in Vaseline and sliding across the map to pop balloons isab
Turning off monkey Knowledge ❌
Fixing the map so slightly so that bombs drop ✅
Chimps automatically disables monkey knowledge
Technically it would be better if the ace route was just a bit smaller than the circle, so that all darts hit always at all time whilst the bombs still hit the bloons. But just technically, still an awesome video and much love for you man
I'd like to see you do a race on this map. Bomber Ace pierce is crazy.
would be min time
He basically already did
Im a race to round 300 on a infinitely long map but it was not really infinite
Isab, would having the bloons move the same direction the ace is flying increase the single target DPS? Then the ace would be over everything for a longer period of time. Then again, flying against each other it would fly over the bloon more often. Something to test if you want.
No because Bloons would outrun it and clockwise hits more anyways
Please do a recursive/bomb blitz run of this, especially with the new buffs!
It's good with late game, but mediocre without buffs 💀
Not 100% circle, ISAB clickbait confirmed
it doesn’t say 100% circle anywhere 😂
as a long time youtube watcher I think isab should have a donation link so I can support him. I don't like giving money to twitch or 3rd parties and just want to give what's appropriate for someone who has been very consistent in making good videos.
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thank you isab for popping the bloons in a circle
Doesnt 0-2-0 ace have extra damage for camos? So why did you decamo the ddts on round 128? 😅
Wouldnt a figure 8 pattern flight and map make the damage higher since the bombs at the cross section would hit double the ballons. Also for dart efficiency, i think having a bigger figure 8 track around the normal figure 8 track would let less darts be lost. That map would also probably be the best map for the 500 monkey ace
Pat fusty not being in water to get ability buffed by energizer seems like an oversight
not energizering the ace for cdr also
and i get that it would probably deal to much damage but a 5-x-x buccaneer would also be a good support for the tzar
İsab my friend nice video but if you turn the plane ratation the bombs start the chase the and instead of hitting every turn it will constantly Damage if speed is same
Crosspathing Alchemist to 420 makes the buff apply to a single tower more frequently, and lasts for more shots (unless this was ever changed, haven't played since a couple updates).
ISAB, This is perfect! I subscribed right away!
Thank you isab for incentivating my sleep deprivation
I'd LOVE to see sky shredder, it's one of if not my favorite tower in the game. :D
Would it be better if the bloons and ace were going the same direction either bother clockwise or counterclockwise, wouldn't that allow the bombs to hit things like BADs a lot more per circle
Yes it would, you quickly learn ISAB doesn't think much.
Waiting so long for lots more darts was actually INFURIATING
"A tower that is not the strongest"
*Bloons to the ace*: But would you lose...?
*Ace*: Nah, id win
I could 100% be wrong but I think you can use unfinished tracks (without an exit) and I think no bloons will go there and maybe the bomber sees it as track? That is if you can even play a map with an unfinished track like that.
@ISAB why make the path go counter-clockwise? Doesn't the plane go clock-wise? So shouldn't the path be goint clock-wise to maximize the amount of damage?
Also the faster the ballon moves opposite of the plane the less leeway you get to hit bombs.
I wonder if Ace micro would have done it there. If you switched the Ace to reverse, a good portion of the bombs would fall with the BAD's movement instead of against it, and thus dealing more damage. Whenever the Ace would pass the BAD, you reverse it again.
3:47 put pat in water next to ace?
Hello ISAB. i would like to suggest a video idea. can you please god boost the comanche commander. i think its a very underrated tower and would be very good to god boost. keep up the good content 👍
shouldve moved engi foam away cuz spy plane deals extra camo dmg. surely the +1 is a game changer 100%
you could place barriers (like fences or hedges) to block the other towers so the test becomes more even
Wouldn’t it be way better to have slightly smaller circles, alternating with slightly bigger circles? Bomb range would hit the same, but that way the side arrows would hit, instead of going directly outside the path?
probably wouldnt make much of a difference but i feel like having the plane fly the other way would do more damage. having it follow bloons rather than go against the grain to stay on top of them for longer.
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Tree Stump and Geared are the closest tracks I can think of that can utilize the centered path extremely well.
Would reversing the direction help the ace? I know it would take longer to get back, but I feel like it would have better damage output on single target especially.
is it better to have the ace going in the same direction as the bloons or the opposite direction?
Thank you isab for being my reward for finishing my engineering homework
Should the plane be going the other way the same direction of the bloons?
Thank you isab for giving us more content
I can’t see any comments, but it hurts having the ace go against the grain. I feel like chasing it’d do more dps
I hope you see this one
you’re supposed to pop against the grain though
Nope he's right, often the ace does more damage when following the bloons@@spki8656
Wouldn't this technically be *with* the grain when referring to wood?
Up and down is essential the same, but when you go horizontal it's truly against the grain.
@@spki8656 With the plane following bloons it will hit the bloons more consistently.
ISAB video for the trip to school? I am in heaven. Also (insert thank you _ for popping the bloons)
This is ironically the best map for Sky Shredder
At this point I enjoy watching you play more than enjoy the game itself
Wouldn't flying in "8" or "∞" figure be much better since the track actually intercepts?
You need more nodes for each loop so the map would be shorter
@@IAmUnderscore fair enough
A de- camo sub so you don't have to rely on overclock? Did you forget about your mib? That upgrade before mib is camo detect? And I assume that was just for your temple bc the bomber ace has camo build in to the path anyways?
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try getting dart paragon next if its doable, dartagon perfect map would go hard (the best track should be something like the longest map w/ walls on both sides since the paragon balls can bounce around a lot more)
I feel like the track being an infinity shape in the same way that the Ace is would make it use up more of it’s pierce.
I've said this before but wouldn't having the ace fly the same direction as the bloons be better? It would mean it's on top of a single bloon for longer which would increase single target
would love to see middle path druid, those thorns stacking on track layered over itself like 40 times sounds insane
Amazing video like you do always 👍
I'm surprised that Tsar Bomba doesn't increase the damage of the bombs at all. It feels like they just forgot, considering how many other towers that used to be like that were changed.
Would’ve been nice if you tested if counterclockwise performed better, haven’t tested but I would think it has better single target damage since it’d be on top of a bad for longer
if the ace moves with the flow of the balloons and not against them, it will have more coverage on it for single target dps.
What is that changing number on the button thats supposed to say "Upgrades"? Is it a projectile count?
I wonder if a smaller track with a figure 8 in would have been better so the ace spends more time dropping bombs directly on the bad. Also why not put Pat in the water to take advantage of the energizer cooldown reduction
Would be cool to have a playlist for the best tower maps
No more oil ISAB, we going in raw
isab not microing the plane physically hurt me
Personally, I feel like a figure eight track could be more fun!
ig the issue with that is having a spot over the track where you can place the ace.
YESSSSS I love attack speed bombers.
one of my favorite towers to spam is the 130 ace
Was not expecting something I suggested to pop into existence. Admittedly, he probably thought of it uniquely himself as well.
So I'm not really keeping up with BTD6 updates anymore, but is there now an Ultraboost per round limit?
8:48 how did pat fusty hit those BADs
what about changing the direction of the bomber ace so that it travelled in the same direction as the bloons? would this not yield more damage as it has slightly higher time above the bloons?
Isab be pulling a morshu with this one 🔥🔥💣🤯💥🤯💣🔥🔥
Ace only dropping bombs on the map is a Monkey Knowledge. U can turn it off to make it always drop
Yes, and no. The knowledge point ONLY applies to the pineapples from the T1, which get removed upon the T3 of the same path. Bomber Ace naturally drops its bombs near the track.
Loving this series! Keep it going pls
Why would you need a decamo sub when you have radar scanner?
I retract my statement, I have no clue
for the temple i think? but what i'm wondering is why not just use the first sub that's closer to the front lmao
So it doesn’t steal pops
@@jksbdvd that's not what I asked. I asked why he needed the decamo sub, not why he submerged a sub. If you pay attention he purchased one while one already existed.
@@turmspitzewerk the pre-existing sub wasn't under the temple's radius, so he got a new one to save money
does the direction the bloons go relative to the ace matter like with blade maelstrom and going against the grain?
This is the most interesting "IF X HAD THE PERFECT MAP" since the ace is very reliant on the path.
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Wouldn't an infinite shape allow more track time and double chances to hit bloons on the junction?
Wouldn't having a figure 8 path allow for more hits on the intersection? I don't know what that would do to track length tho
I’m pretty sure that rosilia would be be better because it buffs attack soeed and flight speed
i think, if u turn the track to the counter-clockwise u deal a lot more damage
I remember seeing a subscriber notification ask when this was coming out in a video a while back
The bomber ace misses a bomb in the SSE corner. this is so sad. Well at least I can thank Isab for popping the bloons
(P.S.) the cleansing foam removing camo from ddts prevents the spy plane +1 damage
Track/balloon travel direction mightve improved the results
Thank you ISAB for popping the Bloons with the Bomber Ace
ok but now geraldos rejuv potion restocks the entire shop including the potion you just used so u could try with geraldo now
ISAB I’m a big fun But I must know if you can beat my custom map on chimps ZFKUCDL is the map, nobody has been able to and I just need to know.
One might say that this video really bombed.