⚫NOTE: ✔️All Videos on free air tests/demos are made to fulfill your needs, by getting the opportunity to see all closeup details as magnet/membrane/cone and speed/flex movements, ✔️Each and every video has been recorded with top tech, please use quality headphones to feel the difference between each and another video, ✔️Each and every model has been tested for hours/days, by all types of environments, hall/lab/vehicle, also, each speaker/tweeter/midbass/sub are tested on random amps/DSPs, and different head-unit input types, like analog/digital, the same process for power amplifiers/DSPs, we use this technique to maximize the final fair desition of the output level of each gear individually, the final score will be published on our web and in the upcoming videos, feel free to contact us for professional suggestions.
Hi Fred , i have just bought mille pro mpk 165.3 for the front mille pro mpx 165.3 for the rear , pioneer d9704 , pioneer d9701 amps and a Kicker comp r 12'' dual 2 ohm sub +enclosure . also iam looking for a small DSP like a Helix or audison . what is your opinion on this budget minded set up ?pls .
Love your videos. Looking for a mid level set of components. Right now it is between these mlk 165.3 or the dls up6i ultimate 6.5's. Which would you choose? They're both around $500 Canadian. Don't have steg out here
@@frednsoundok thank you. I used to run hertz milk 6.5's with the aluminum cone off a audison amp giving them 200 rms a side. Thinking of an old jl audio 300/2 video or dls referecs cci2. Which do you suggest? Anything better than these that won't break the bank. I am in canada so don't have access to most you suggest
@@terrencelewis7200 you’re welcome. some Brands we can help you getting them directly from the factory shipped to you. About your amps, The Slash Will be better than the cc.
Hi Fred, I can't really decide, can you tell me if the Hertz MPK163.3 or the Ground Zero GZRC 165.3SQ is better? Both are 3-way systems, which get good reviews in Germany. Nice video and thanks for your answer.
Olá estou pensando em colocar em meu Corsa Wind falante 6x9 Focal Auditor R-690C 6" NAR Kyvler 6.2HT e subwoofer Nakamichi nbx25m 10" módulo pensei em Pioneer GM 7004, mas ainda não definiu modelo. O que acha ?
Hello sir, Can you recommend any component which has better clarity , soft and deeper bass than mpk in this price range? I really like how my current alpine r2 tweeters sounds but not happy with midbass :(
@@frednsound thank you so much for your suggestion. Thinking of installing ME650CIII in the front and SG650C in the rear. I need both deeper bass and better vocals both.. what would you think about this..? Any suggestion?
Hi, i currently have alpine spg17 2way in my car. Im considering MPK 1650.3 (the 28 tweeter version). Is it a worthy upgrade? My amplifier is a audiosystem f4 380
@@frednsound thank you for your answer. However in my country (spain) the SG set is not available, only in european pages for 550+€. MPK 1650 is available here for half the price (around 250-300€)
Hi fred, i have this set running passive by audio control d6.1200, midwoofers r ok, I didn’t like the tweeters they r harsh and the Sss in the vocals r ruining everything else it’s like the vocals are not blending well. What should i do!! Is replacing the tweeters with the ml280 will be lot cleaner and better ? or should I replace the tweeters with other brands?
Hi mate, as mentioned several times here, the tweeters are too thin, the ML280 will over take them, as this kit has more tweeter and bass then vocals, get the STEG SQ32, will work best, thanks for watching
Hi fred Out of three Morel Tempo Ultra 602 MKii Hertz Mile Pro MPK 165.3 STEG MLG 65C / STEG SE650C which one do you recommend for overall tonality better bass response and vocals Or do you recommend any other in similar price range.
NEED HELP. Is it possible to wire in 2 more speakers to a 2 way speaker set up? So I’ll buy a 2 way set 2 speakers and 2 tweeters but I want 2 more can I do that? And a sub 8inch one
Hi, you can add 2 more midbass 4ohm each driver to final 2ohm 4 speakers. Using the same 2-way crossovers. Or, just add more amp ch with more 2-way kit. Thanks for watching
@@frednsound all so can I add any brand to hurtz Mille pro mpk 130.3 speakers like audison prima ap 4 4 inch mid base 40w speakers for my roof. Because I’ve got a old defender pickup and I need to fill the 4 inch hold in my roof with something and I was thinking them can I do that?
hi I would like to get the MPK165.3 kit but I don't know which amplifier to take ... Will a HERTZ AUDIO HCP4 amplifier be enough for the power supplies? Because I can not really understand the characteristics of watts rms. sorry for my english google trad
Great videos about to upgrade my stock speaker system do you if there's really any difference in these (hertz mpk 165.3 pro) and the mpk 165p.3 pro both seem to be about $500 originally but the regular 165.3 are on sale for $350 so buy those or 165p.3 at $500?
@@13elborracho13 hi, yes sure, the steg MT650CII better then mlk series, you just make sure it’s genuine, don’t buy online, local Distributor only, thanks for watching
hi mate, most of the focal sets are very bright, some like it, some don't, this mpk tweeters are not the top, they are also kind of bright, flax Evo vs these, Both are equal level, thanks for watching
Hi, I don’t speak English so good, I’m Brazilian. I bought the MPK here in Brazil for R $ 1,600.00 reais. here is equivalent to Audison APK and Morel Maximo. Did I make the best choice? I can still exchange, which is the best in the price range? The set I want to mount on a Golf MK3 is Kit 2 Way MPK on the front, Sub Morel Primo 12 in the back (porta malas) and Amp Hertz H604. Will it be good? Hug from Brazil.
Alex Marçal Lopes hi mate, between the models you mentioned, the MPK is the best, stay with that, try getting different sub, morel primo subs are very thin bass, thanks for watching
Hear the Morel tempo Ultra has 2k, more expensive. I stay whit the MPK, and I will buy the H604. Need a other kit for the back? My actually set will be: - Pioneer X7000BR - AMP HERTZ H604 - 2 WAY HERTZ MPK 165.3 PRO - SUB MOREL PRIMO 12 POL In Brazil the others subs on the same price is Hertz 12 Pol, ES I think. How the other better? I will trade the Morel so.
Hi Fred. I’m new to your Channel and appreciate you putting out some cool content. I’m in limbo between getting the audison voce 3 ways components vs these hertz mpk 163.3. I have an audison ap 8.9 (8x35) After reading some comments on this thread, STEG seems to be on top of your list. Any suggestions is welcome and Thanks in advance!
Hi mate, welcome🎶, between your selections. MPK will have better bass respond, as the voce doesn’t have deep bass, but, the voce is better in all means from the MPK. Voce has better tweeter, better vocals and better power output compared to the MPK, voce tweeters are little too bright, but way better than MPK tweeters, MPK feels thin and empty, thanks for watching
Hello Fred! Just stumbled on your channel. Amazing vids! I am planning a 3 way setup. Can't decide between mpk 163.3 set and audison voce av 6.5/3.0/1.1. Which ones will sound better in your opinion? Will the hertz midbass outperform the voce? Thx!
Hi mate, thanks for the support, Glad you liked them, the mpk will be softer and better bass, the voce will have better voice and more power, depends on your needs, thanks for watching
@@frednsound thank you for your quick reply. What about the mille legend? Will those have better voice reproduction than the audison voce? Is the mille legend better all around vs the audison voce? I always see here in the comments you saying about the mille legend : ' for that money you can have better.' What are the better alternatives for the same budget besides STEG. Thx again!!
@@teletin01 welcome, yes the legend will be better then voce, and yes STEG is much better then legend, if you do not want steg just stay with legend, thanks
@@frednsound hi Fred, as far as 2ways I think the Rockford Fosgate T5 652-S components might draw alot of people's attention if they ever heard them. Just saying!
Got 2 sets of these components on a pioneer gmd 1200. 4 channel. With 4 skar zvx 15s on a viking 8001... video soon those comps help with enjoying the music then the bass beats you back to reality 🤣
Helo, love all your videos so much, Am thinking upgrade my components, now am using morel hybrid 602, any suggestion among : 1. Hertz mille legend 2. Flux rc 370 3. Focal 165 wxp 4. Scanspeak gold series 5. German maestro M-line I have budget for that kind of speaker but unfortunately no steg component in my country And planning upgrade my amp too ,now am using hertz H604 and plan to upgrade between helix C4 / zapco ap series and mosconi as series, which one will u suggesting ? Thnks
hi mate thanks for the great support, I would do recommend better then these the ME650CII, but if you can get them then: Hertz 1650.3, Flux RC 370, zapco ap are better than the other you just mentioned, thanks for watching
@@frednsound wow, u mean zapco ap is better than Helix c4 ? That’s really surprise me .. coz from specs sheet, c4 is pretty superior... very nice info , thnk you Fred n sound channel, 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@frednsound thank you mate, but lastly, zapco Z-AP vs Zapco Z-SP, any difference between these two? Saw the spec sheet and thinkink not so much different between them, only the price that AP is higher 😅
Well mate, didn’t feel that much improvement for the price, stay with the AP, or if you have the ability of getting AudioSystem Italy or steg amps, then they are even better, as the K-Series or twister series, thanks
Another great video fred thank you for making great videos . What is the differences between the mpk and the mlk ? What do you get when you step up to the mlk
Hi Mike, thanks for the great support mate, well, can’t recommend MPK, as it’s thin sound, doesn’t feel full/natural, the MLK1650.3 is much better, better tweeters, better mids, with deeper sound, if you do like/prefer hertz, then go for the MLK1650.3 only, the best hertz ever made was the old MLK165, was an amazing kit, thanks for watching
Fred & Sound hi Fred thx for replying back ..between hertz mlk ,hybrid legatia l6 or morel virtus?if all were priced the same what’s the better buy for the sound?
Hello sir I want upgrade my front stage I shortlisted component hertz mile pro for good midbass and confuse midrange on morel CCWR254 and ALPINE DP 35M OR MPK 165.3 PRO PLZ GIVE ME BEST Solution
@@frednsound HERTZ MILE PRO + MOREL MIDRANGE CCWR254 it’s a budget friendly combo thanks you sir for better performance can be use hertz component with crossover or active plz suggest
Hi Fred & Sound, I have a jl rd 900/5 I’m looking at upgrading my door speakers. I plan on running 6.5” components up front and am unsure about the rear doors, should I go with coax or comment in the rear? Also, I don’t know which brand wil sound the best, jlc3 focal flax or hertz Millie pro? I know you mentioned steg but I have no local dealer. What’s best aroun that price range? I’m looking for SQ
Hi mate, steg ME650CII, or Mille legend, if you have the possibility to run components for rear fill it’s better then coax, of no, will work fine, thanks for watching
@@frednsound thanks for responding! Is there something better at the jl c3 and hertz mpk price range? If not which 6.5” would you go with out of the 2 I mention for SQ? Thanks for making the great videos.
Hi fred, really like what your doing, it makes the choice less difficult. But unfortunately I bought focal kx2, have them biamped at 4x180wrms on a kenwood headunit but the quality of different numbers are so extreme that I have to keep adjusting eq and other settings. I bought a zapco dsp Iv II and will completly go active. My guess is that the focals are going out, I had a set of Polk Audio Sr6500 but with that new headunit my tweeters burned out, and that was the best set I have heard so far. The 6,5” just could have it al, i really punished them and they never failed. But the focals are not satisfying, I bought 4 morel elate mids really like to hear that because al the good reactions here. I also bought the old hertz mille tweeters and midrange so before I’ll buy a steg set have to trie how its sounds. If possible I will add a set of infinity magnetostatic tweeter from kappa, I heard that on a car who won severall emma competitions, that sounded so unbelievable sweet he added them If im correct from somewhere above 9khz and up. They are oldskool but brand new. What do you think will it be a match with hertz mille ht 250 tweeters the hertz hd 500 midrange and the morel elate6 midbass?
Hi mate, glad you liked it, the Polk’s was a good design, focal always feels thin sometimes harsh, I’m always trying to explain that, people should know, sometimes or say most of the times we just buy name/price tag, and that’s a shame, later on, you feel it was a quick mistake, morel have good piccolo tweeters, for the midbass I prefer others, Nice you know The HT 250, it’s the first Mille tweeters, maybe I’ll do a video later on, they will work fine with HD500, but with other midbass, something deeper, I would upgrade to full kit of ME650CII SG650C, or ML653, or SS KIT, but that’s very expensive, and yeah, run always active, with passive crossovers and unstable speakers, you could feel lost in tuning, one day the setup is right, few hours later you can’t stand it lol, wish you success.. thanks for watching
Seems need more power for mid bass. I have a 3 way mille pro with 2 woofer for doors and they are awesome at 80hz. I love this speaker. Quality/price excellent but i control they with a steg dsp 6to8, hertz ml power 4 for woofer and h604 for mid and tweeter. I love your channel Fred. Hi from Italy! ❤
It’s a descent speaker, works ok, not high-end for sure, tweeters are thin, there much better sets out there for the same cost, if someone likes Mille then stick to legend 1650, thanks for watching
What was your power going to them, and crossover points? Or, did you run them full range, and let the passive crossovers do all the crossover duites? Luv your videos, and use the one track as a reference after I tune, I forget the name, but has glass breaking, forest sounds, etc, left and right, back and fourth
Christian D Shatto hi, you talk about jungle in space, glad you liked my videos and music, try the new track of 8D-audio I’ve just released: th-cam.com/video/-KBXVCinV_w/w-d-xo.html This set gets 150rms, full range from the amp, to the passive crossovers, thanks for watching
Hi Fred... I was Going to buy Hertz MPK 165.3 PRO and it's really cheap in my country... About $250 But with this price i have this options too: AUDIO SYSTEM AE650C Rockford T1650-S Helix P 62C Helix Esprit E 62C.2 Image Dynamics CXS64 Alpine SPX-177R STEG MT650C STEG MT650C II DLS RC6.2 DLS RMC6.2 DLS Ultimate UPi6 ( it's a little more exepensive than others but if it's best choise it's not matter ) DLS RC6.3 Gladen RS-X 165 Focal PS 165V1 ( Used ) Focal PS 165F ( Used ) So what do you think? just go with Hertz MPK 165.3 PRO or no? one of other optiones that i named? Sound quality is the most important thing for me, detail, clarity, depth and accurate sound and everything that improve sound quality. i mostly listen to rock and EDM and i really dont want a very very sharp sound or harsh sound.
Hi, I would recommend the steg MTor audio system AE, but surely they are fake as the AE cost 649euro and mt 589eur, so skip them.. the Image Dynamics CXS64 has good vocals but lacking on bass, or the DLS Ultimate UPi6, thanks for watching
@@frednsound I guess they are not fake. they are not $300 or euro in my country... i just change my country monetary unit into $. but they are cost similar to Hertz MPK 165.3 PRO in my country. assuming that they are not fake which one do you you recommend? STEG MT650C or STEG MT650C II or AUDIO SYSTEM AE650C? what's the difference between these three?
@@frednsound Hmmm... Tnx man. There is about 9 models of STEG component available in my country! ME650CII is also available and it costs about $550. So there is not fake of ME650CII in the market? Is there any way to distinguish between genuine and fake? ML653C is also available for about $600. And SG 650C for about $450. What do you think about these models? They are all MADE IN ITALY for both STEG and AUDIO SYSTEM. And the last thing, Do MT650C and ME650CII have the same price? Cuz as i said ME650CII costs about $550, but on the other hand MT650C costs about $250!!! BTW i guess only one particular company imports STEG and AUDIO SYSTEM products into my country with the same warranty. You're really helping me a lot by taking the time to answer my questions and guide me. Thank you...
@@frednsoundhi Fred thank you for amazing videos. Which do you recommend hertz ml 280.3 or steg sq 32 with hertz ml 1600 woofer, hertz mp 70.3 mid range speakers. Thank you in advance!
@@azimovshoxrux9502 hi, Thanks! Sq32 is smother, warmer and more natural. Ml280.3 is more crisp and sharper. Depends on your preference. Thanks for watching
Car speakers are free air, your car doors are not box, also, this way you get the opportunity to see the speakers from all angles, open, as voice coil magnet and so, in enclosure sure they sound better, but it’s just to mistake you, as most people don’t install enclosure at the car, thanks
I don't like at all. I had 1 years ago. Tweeter are worst than steg sq650tw and cost a lot more the hertz. Woofer are nothing special, dead sound, when i tried i compared with alpine spg17cs woofer (better than hertz dsk165.3), and i don't noticed particular difference except the cost.
Daniel Caschetto hi, yeah they sound thin, mlk1650.3 is a good set, you can’t compare them to any STEG series’s, sure the SQ650TW is the lowest series from steg, but sound way better, just imagine the upper series’s, thanks for watching
⚫NOTE:
✔️All Videos on free air tests/demos are made to fulfill your needs,
by getting the opportunity to see all closeup details
as magnet/membrane/cone and speed/flex movements,
✔️Each and every video has been recorded with top tech,
please use quality headphones to feel the difference between each and another video,
✔️Each and every model has been tested for hours/days,
by all types of environments, hall/lab/vehicle, also, each speaker/tweeter/midbass/sub are tested
on random amps/DSPs, and different head-unit input types, like analog/digital,
the same process for power amplifiers/DSPs,
we use this technique to maximize the final fair desition
of the output level of each gear individually,
the final score will be published on our web and in the upcoming videos,
feel free to contact us for professional suggestions.
Hi Fred , i have just bought mille pro mpk 165.3 for the front mille pro mpx 165.3 for the rear , pioneer d9704 , pioneer d9701 amps and a Kicker comp r 12'' dual 2 ohm sub +enclosure . also iam looking for a small DSP like a Helix or audison . what is your opinion on this budget minded set up ?pls .
Hi mate, best value setup will be STEG mdsp6ii with USB otg audio. Thanks for watching
The shop i go to recommend this to me, how big of a difference will i hear coming from jl audio c1? Assuming jl is 4/10?
Hi, this one is better, but yet has thin sound, the bass is ok, thanks for watching
Hi mate . Do i need to use any extra amplifier for those hertz system or it will works straight with my radio ?
Hi mate, you do need a quality after market amplifier. Thanks for watching
Love your videos. Looking for a mid level set of components. Right now it is between these mlk 165.3 or the dls up6i ultimate 6.5's. Which would you choose? They're both around $500 Canadian. Don't have steg out here
@@terrencelewis7200 up6i will be better. Thanks for watching
@@frednsoundok thank you. I used to run hertz milk 6.5's with the aluminum cone off a audison amp giving them 200 rms a side. Thinking of an old jl audio 300/2 video or dls referecs cci2. Which do you suggest? Anything better than these that won't break the bank. I am in canada so don't have access to most you suggest
@@terrencelewis7200 you’re welcome. some
Brands we can help you getting them directly from the factory shipped to you. About your amps, The Slash Will be better than the cc.
@@frednsound what brands can you help me get? Steg? What àmps? I listen to hip hop and reggae mostly
@@terrencelewis7200 for more info, contact by the email in the description below.
Hi Fred, I can't really decide, can you tell me if the Hertz MPK163.3 or the Ground Zero GZRC 165.3SQ is better? Both are 3-way systems, which get good reviews in Germany.
Nice video and thanks for your answer.
Hi, similar level, MPK has better midbass, and GZ has better tweeters. depends on your needs. Thanks for watching
Olá estou pensando em colocar em meu Corsa Wind falante 6x9 Focal Auditor R-690C
6" NAR Kyvler 6.2HT e subwoofer Nakamichi nbx25m 10" módulo pensei em Pioneer GM 7004, mas ainda não definiu modelo. O que acha ?
Hello sir,
Can you recommend any component which has better clarity , soft and deeper bass than mpk in this price range? I really like how my current alpine r2 tweeters sounds but not happy with midbass :(
@@AmitSharma-gh6dj hi, get the sg650c. Thanks for watching
@@frednsound how is steg ME650CIII compared to SG650c? Does this have deeper midbass and clarity?
Also Blam signature series is better than steg?
@@AmitSharma-gh6dj no, STEG is better in my opinion.
Sg has deeper bass, ME Better vocals.
@@frednsound thank you so much for your suggestion. Thinking of installing ME650CIII in the front and SG650C in the rear. I need both deeper bass and better vocals both.. what would you think about this..? Any suggestion?
@@AmitSharma-gh6dj welcome. it will work great
Hi, i currently have alpine spg17 2way in my car. Im considering MPK 1650.3 (the 28 tweeter version). Is it a worthy upgrade? My amplifier is a audiosystem f4 380
Hi, no. you can get for that cost much better value. Get the SG650c Thanks for watching
@@frednsound thank you for your answer. However in my country (spain) the SG set is not available, only in european pages for 550+€. MPK 1650 is available here for half the price (around 250-300€)
@@angelcantero7320 welcome. we can help you get them directly from the factory in italy. Even lower series are still better than mpk
Hi fred, i have this set running passive by audio control d6.1200, midwoofers r ok, I didn’t like the tweeters they r harsh and the Sss in the vocals r ruining everything else it’s like the vocals are not blending well.
What should i do!! Is replacing the tweeters with the ml280 will be lot cleaner and better ? or should I replace the tweeters with other brands?
Hi mate, as mentioned several times here, the tweeters are too thin, the ML280 will over take them, as this kit has more tweeter and bass then vocals, get the STEG SQ32, will work best, thanks for watching
Hi fred
Out of three Morel Tempo Ultra 602 MKii
Hertz Mile Pro MPK 165.3
STEG MLG 65C / STEG SE650C
which one do you recommend for overall tonality better bass response and vocals
Or do you recommend any other in similar price range.
Hi Mishel, the SG650c or ME650c, thanks for watching
@@frednsound leo 650C
MLG65C
SE 650C
are the available models from distributor
Please suggest from these
@@misheldhiman7981 non
@@frednsound ME650Cii ?
@@misheldhiman7981 yes
NEED HELP. Is it possible to wire in 2 more speakers to a 2 way speaker set up?
So I’ll buy a 2 way set 2 speakers and 2 tweeters but I want 2 more can I do that?
And a sub 8inch one
Hi, you can add 2 more midbass 4ohm each driver to final 2ohm 4 speakers. Using the same 2-way crossovers. Or, just add more amp ch with more 2-way kit. Thanks for watching
@@frednsound thanks 👍
@@amcf2000c welcome
@@frednsound all so can I add any brand to hurtz Mille pro mpk 130.3 speakers like audison prima ap 4 4 inch mid base 40w speakers for my roof. Because I’ve got a old defender pickup and I need to fill the 4 inch hold in my roof with something and I was thinking them can I do that?
@@amcf2000c you can, but you need the right passive crossovers for them, Thanks for watching
You recommend these on jeep wrangler? Or anything better then this bro?
Hi bro, better then this? Will be the STEG SG650C will do fine on open top, thanks for watching
Hi fred, i want to ask which 3inch midrange speakers you prefer,audison voce 3.0 or hertz mille pro70.3?
Hi Leo, same level, the mille will be smoother, thanks for watching
Ok, thanks for your reply
@@leoadam5410 you’re welcome
hi I would like to get the MPK165.3 kit but I don't know which amplifier to take ... Will a HERTZ AUDIO HCP4 amplifier be enough for the power supplies? Because I can not really understand the characteristics of watts rms. sorry for my english google trad
Hi mate, try getting sound quality amp with 100w rms+ thanks for watching
@@frednsound ok then i will take the amplifier: HERTZ HCP-4DK. that should be enough, right?
@@shanywoozen2051 yes right, thanks
Hi fred, always liked your video. Between Hertz MPK 165.3 Pro and Hertz CPK 165 Pro, how does the sound quality compare?
Hi, thanks, glad you liked them.
Mpk is more smoother. Both feels a little thin sound because of the tweeters. Thanks for watching
@@frednsound thank you for the reply. Was also wondering how does the sound quality compare between Mpk 165.3 with Focal Slatefiber Ps 165 sf?
@@lianghan1787 welcome. Mpk better bass. Focal better mids and highs
Great videos about to upgrade my stock speaker system do you if there's really any difference in these (hertz mpk 165.3 pro) and the mpk 165p.3 pro both seem to be about $500 originally but the regular 165.3 are on sale for $350 so buy those or 165p.3 at $500?
Hi, there is not justice to add that extra for that range, get the sale one on 350$ and success.. thanks for watching
@@frednsound thank you very much one more question are there any other component sets to consider at $500 price point other then hertz mpk?
@@13elborracho13 hi, yes sure, the steg MT650CII better then mlk series, you just make sure it’s genuine, don’t buy online, local
Distributor only, thanks for watching
Fred ! Mpk 165.3 4ohms ou Mpk 1650.3 3ohms. Qual ??
HI, MPK1650.3. Thanks for watching
Fred, what's the sound quality difference between this Hertz and Morel tempo ultra 602?
Hi, this one will have better bass, but for these costs, could get much better then both, thanks for watching
Great video! Do you recommend Hertz CPK 165 Pro or Focal Access 165as???
Hi, thanks for the support, CPK, thanks for watching
Hi fred
I've heard everyone saying that focal flax speakers are bright, but how is the flax evo compared to the mpk in both midbass and tweeters ?
hi mate, most of the focal sets are very bright, some like it, some don't, this mpk tweeters are not the top, they are also kind of bright, flax Evo vs these, Both are equal level, thanks for watching
There are so many different component speakers made by Hertz....which one is the best??
From hertz? The best will be the Mille legend 1650.3, thanks for watching
Hi, I don’t speak English so good, I’m Brazilian.
I bought the MPK here in Brazil for R $ 1,600.00 reais. here is equivalent to Audison APK and Morel Maximo. Did I make the best choice? I can still exchange, which is the best in the price range? The set I want to mount on a Golf MK3 is Kit 2 Way MPK on the front, Sub Morel Primo 12 in the back (porta malas) and Amp Hertz H604. Will it be good? Hug from Brazil.
Alex Marçal Lopes hi mate, between the models you mentioned, the MPK is the best, stay with that, try getting different sub, morel primo subs are very thin bass, thanks for watching
Hear the Morel tempo Ultra has 2k, more expensive. I stay whit the MPK, and I will buy the H604. Need a other kit for the back? My actually set will be:
- Pioneer X7000BR
- AMP HERTZ H604
- 2 WAY HERTZ MPK 165.3 PRO
- SUB MOREL PRIMO 12 POL
In Brazil the others subs on the same price is Hertz 12 Pol, ES I think.
How the other better? I will trade the Morel so.
Alex Marçal Lopes hertz subs are better then Morel’s, thanks
I put Some JL audio C2 in my car but im not satisfied .The Hertz pro are better ?!
Not that good, for that range, get MT650CII, thanks for watching
Hi Fred. I’m new to your Channel and appreciate you putting out some cool content. I’m in limbo between getting the audison voce 3 ways components vs these hertz mpk 163.3. I have an audison ap 8.9 (8x35) After reading some comments on this thread, STEG seems to be on top of your list. Any suggestions is welcome and Thanks in advance!
Hi mate, welcome🎶, between your selections. MPK will have better bass respond, as the voce doesn’t have deep bass, but, the voce is better in all means from the MPK. Voce has better tweeter, better vocals and better power output compared to the MPK, voce tweeters are little too bright, but way better than MPK tweeters, MPK feels thin and empty, thanks for watching
@@frednsound o
@@frednsound how does the JL Audio C5-653 Evolution and the Focal ES 165KX3 Elite K2 Power compare to these or the Mille Legends and STEGs?
@@lanewarriorillridez3739 Mille legend is a good set, STEG SG and upper models are better, thanks for watching
Oh~~~ finally ~!! Thank you
No one in TH-cam has expressed in detail like you. Thank you.
김보경 thanks for the support mate:)
Do you think these are better sounding then the jl audio C3 650? Thanks for the vids
Jimmy Mounts hi mate, similer level, thanks for watching
Which would you pick jl c3’s or these?
Sounds great
Thanks for watching
What would you recommend between focal ES165k,mile mpk 165.3 pro or mt650cii? Open to suggestions around same price Mark
Thanks in advance man
Will KSZ hi, sure the MT650CII, thanks for watching
@@frednsound thanks for the quick response mate . Unfortunately that's not available in Australia only hertz and focal here
Any idea between this two?
Will KSZ hi mate, the mpk will be smother then ES, the ES will be louder, similar level different flavor, thanks
Appreciate your help mate guess I'd go with ES then
Will KSZ welcome mate
Applause!!!!!
Thanks for watching:)
will this DROP in my streetglide batwing AND lowers without Fabricating the hole?
Hi, not sure about that, try checking the size to make sure, thanks for watching
Mile are Awesome speakers. I have the legend line in 2 way and 3 way and they are very clear
Hi, thanks for watching
What would you recommend for the same price point, different brand or same brand?
Hi, steg series are much better than Mille legend, MT/SG/ME series’s, thanks for watching
Fred & Sound thank you for replying, do you have a video testing these out?
Hello Fred! Just stumbled on your channel. Amazing vids! I am planning a 3 way setup. Can't decide between mpk 163.3 set and audison voce av 6.5/3.0/1.1. Which ones will sound better in your opinion? Will the hertz midbass outperform the voce? Thx!
Hi mate, thanks for the support,
Glad you liked them, the mpk will be softer and better bass, the voce will have better voice and more power, depends on your needs, thanks for watching
@@frednsound thank you for your quick reply. What about the mille legend? Will those have better voice reproduction than the audison voce? Is the mille legend better all around vs the audison voce?
I always see here in the comments you saying about the mille legend : ' for that money you can have better.'
What are the better alternatives for the same budget besides STEG.
Thx again!!
@@teletin01 welcome, yes the legend will be better then voce, and yes STEG is much better then legend, if you do not want steg just stay with legend, thanks
Love your videos. What's the difference in sound within this Hertz system and Steg Mt650c? Who is better for punch and sound quality? Thanks
Hi, the MT650CII is night and day better then Mille legend, it’s deeper, crisper, and warmer, thanks for watching
@@frednsound I hope be the same for the first version of Mt650c, I bought these
Tomcat84 the first was amazing, because of the fakes issues they replaced it, thanks
These or the steg ms650?
@@frednsound hi Fred, as far as 2ways I think the Rockford Fosgate T5 652-S components might draw alot of people's attention if they ever heard them. Just saying!
What speakers would you recommend in this price range if not these ones ?
Hi, STEG MT650c. Thanks for watching
Would you take these hertz or cdt audio Es-62i ?
@@jtome84-91 sure the cdt
Thanks
I’m going to run Jl audio xd700/5 bridged for 200 rms per side . Do you think that is good ?
Fred, how do these compare to JL Audio C5-650?
hi, similar level, the JL tweeters are better, thanks for watching
Hello, what amp would you recommend for these? Thanks for the video!
Hi mate, AudioSystem Italy f4d-400, thanks for watching
@@frednsound will a hcp4 work okay as I’ve got a mate selling one for cheap 🤔
@@wotish it’s a very cheap build amp, it will be better getting a quality one,
Thanks
Got 2 sets of these components on a pioneer gmd 1200. 4 channel. With 4 skar zvx 15s on a viking 8001... video soon those comps help with enjoying the music then the bass beats you back to reality 🤣
Lol:) enjoy them.. thanks for watching
Helo, love all your videos so much,
Am thinking upgrade my components, now am using morel hybrid 602, any suggestion among :
1. Hertz mille legend
2. Flux rc 370
3. Focal 165 wxp
4. Scanspeak gold series
5. German maestro M-line
I have budget for that kind of speaker but unfortunately no steg component in my country
And planning upgrade my amp too ,now am using hertz H604 and plan to upgrade between helix C4 / zapco ap series and mosconi as series, which one will u suggesting ? Thnks
hi mate thanks for the great support, I would do recommend better then these the ME650CII, but if you can get them then: Hertz 1650.3, Flux RC 370, zapco ap are better than the other you just mentioned, thanks for watching
@@frednsound wow, u mean zapco ap is better than Helix c4 ? That’s really surprise me .. coz from specs sheet, c4 is pretty superior... very nice info , thnk you Fred n sound channel, 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Yeah for sure, helix have good build quality, but sound is always empty and cold, Zapco will be better, thanks
@@frednsound thank you mate, but lastly, zapco Z-AP vs Zapco Z-SP, any difference between these two? Saw the spec sheet and thinkink not so much different between them, only the price that AP is higher 😅
Well mate, didn’t feel that much improvement for the price, stay with the AP, or if you have the ability of getting AudioSystem Italy or steg amps, then they are even better, as the K-Series or twister series, thanks
Hi
Witch have deeper mid base, this or Audison voce av k6?
Hi, this.. thanks for watching
qual o site que tem os testes?
in update.. available again soon
Jl c1-075 tweeters vs these tweeters
(I have focal flax 6.5s to pair with them)
Hi, these are better, Thanks for watching
For golf 6 too ?
Hi, could fit, thanks for watching
Are these better than the audison voce three way
Hi, these has better bass respond, the voce has better tweeters, thanks for watching
Nice!
thanks for watching mate
Is better than image dynamics xs65 ? Or cxs64?
nestor segura hi, no, this set is too thin, xs is better, or mlk1650.3 will be better, thanks for watching
And the image dynamics cxs64 is also better than the mille pro?
Saludos desde México :)
Salute mate:), yes right, thanks
Another great video fred thank you for making great videos . What is the differences between the mpk and the mlk ? What do you get when you step up to the mlk
Hi Mike, thanks for the great support mate, well, can’t recommend MPK, as it’s thin sound, doesn’t feel full/natural, the MLK1650.3 is much better, better tweeters, better mids, with deeper sound, if you do like/prefer hertz, then go for the MLK1650.3 only, the best hertz ever made was the old MLK165, was an amazing kit, thanks for watching
Fred & Sound hi Fred thx for replying back ..between hertz mlk ,hybrid legatia l6 or morel virtus?if all were priced the same what’s the better buy for the sound?
Mike Hill welcome mate, L6, thanks
Between, DSK vs MPK 165.3? The price difference are double. But you think the difference is big? Thanks
Hi, yes, it’s a completely different kit, and it’s better, thanks for watching
Hello sir I want upgrade my front stage I shortlisted component hertz mile pro for good midbass and confuse midrange on morel CCWR254 and ALPINE DP 35M OR MPK 165.3 PRO PLZ GIVE ME BEST Solution
Hi, Best solution from your selection will be the morel midrange, thanks for watching
@@frednsound HERTZ MILE PRO + MOREL MIDRANGE CCWR254 it’s a budget friendly combo thanks you sir for better performance can be use hertz component with crossover or active plz suggest
@@surajbhan6549 welcome mate, try going active for better performance
@@frednsound again thanks for best solution
@@surajbhan6549 you’re welcome
Hi Fred & Sound, I have a jl rd 900/5 I’m looking at upgrading my door speakers. I plan on running 6.5” components up front and am unsure about the rear doors, should I go with coax or comment in the rear? Also, I don’t know which brand wil sound the best, jlc3 focal flax or hertz Millie pro? I know you mentioned steg but I have no local dealer. What’s best aroun that price range? I’m looking for SQ
Hi mate, steg ME650CII, or Mille legend, if you have the possibility to run components for rear fill it’s better then coax, of no, will work fine, thanks for watching
@@frednsound thanks for responding! Is there something better at the jl c3 and hertz mpk price range? If not which 6.5” would you go with out of the 2 I mention for SQ? Thanks for making the great videos.
@@onedavidh thanks for the support, try getting the cdt Hd series, good value and better then mpk or c3, thanks
Is it possible that you can test the gladen sql 165? And review it? :)
Hi, will try to:), thanks for watching
@@frednsound I'm playing with them in my car! Sound really good! Curious what your reaction is:) thanks
Ivo Hoogendijk ive been listening to all their series, will try making that video, thanks
@@frednsound that would be awesome:) thanks, appreciate your videos!
Ivo Hoogendijk thanks mate
What does the switch in the crossover do?
Hi, tweeter level, thanks for watching
Excelente una pregunta ese set componente como lo tienes en hp y hz y slope
Según yo, siempre los usa en full range. Ya los crossovers hacen su trabajo.
Exactly as josh comment, thanks for watching:)
jose antonio nataren thanks for watching:)
Hi fred, really like what your doing, it makes the choice less difficult. But unfortunately I bought focal kx2, have them biamped at 4x180wrms on a kenwood headunit but the quality of different numbers are so extreme that I have to keep adjusting eq and other settings. I bought a zapco dsp Iv II and will completly go active. My guess is that the focals are going out, I had a set of Polk Audio Sr6500 but with that new headunit my tweeters burned out, and that was the best set I have heard so far. The 6,5” just could have it al, i really punished them and they never failed. But the focals are not satisfying, I bought 4 morel elate mids really like to hear that because al the good reactions here. I also bought the old hertz mille tweeters and midrange so before I’ll buy a steg set have to trie how its sounds. If possible I will add a set of infinity magnetostatic tweeter from kappa, I heard that on a car who won severall emma competitions, that sounded so unbelievable sweet he added them If im correct from somewhere above 9khz and up. They are oldskool but brand new. What do you think will it be a match with hertz mille ht 250 tweeters the hertz hd 500 midrange and the morel elate6 midbass?
Hi mate, glad you liked it, the Polk’s was a good design, focal always feels thin sometimes harsh, I’m always trying to explain that, people should know, sometimes or say most of the times we just buy name/price tag, and that’s a shame, later on, you feel it was a quick mistake, morel have good piccolo tweeters, for the midbass I prefer others,
Nice you know The HT 250, it’s the first Mille tweeters, maybe I’ll do a video later on, they will work fine with HD500, but with other midbass, something deeper,
I would upgrade to full kit of ME650CII SG650C, or ML653, or SS KIT, but that’s very expensive, and yeah, run always active, with passive crossovers and unstable speakers, you could feel lost in tuning, one day the setup is right, few hours later you can’t stand it lol, wish you success.. thanks for watching
Hi,, can be tried to replace heaunit ... ❤Hx-D2❤ ,F1,ODR ...... 😉
ความบริสุทธิ์ของตัวแม่เหล็กก็สำคัญกับระบบเสียง?
Yea sure, thanks for watching
What do you think of mpk 163.3 ?
hi, you could get so much better for that cost, thanks for watching
@@frednsound so how is it compared to 165f 3 ?
@@thesefaberkay hi, please specify the full model, thanks
@@frednsoundhi, I am thinking of buying a focal ps 165f3 or hertz mpk 163.3 ,thank you
@@thesefaberkay both are the same level, the mpk will be softer, the F3 will be sharper, thanks
Hi, is the jl Xd700/5 75rms good enough to power the mpk?
BeatBoyProduction hi, if you bridge it yes, just keep in mind, it is very cold sounding amp, thanks for watching
$600 usd in the states, but theres better choices for the money
Yeah, sure.. thanks for watching
Seems need more power for mid bass.
I have a 3 way mille pro with 2 woofer for doors and they are awesome at 80hz.
I love this speaker. Quality/price excellent but i control they with a steg dsp 6to8, hertz ml power 4 for woofer and h604 for mid and tweeter.
I love your channel Fred.
Hi from Italy! ❤
Enjoy your setup, and thanks for the great support mate:)
How would you rate the H604 amplifier? I´m considering getting one of those..
04:52 4K Shots...
Hello Fred & Sound a question' which one has better quality and loudness - Audison AV 3.0 or Hertz MP 70.3 ? With combination Hertz HSK 165.4 XL
@@georgekorakas2704 hi mate, AV is lauder, MP will sound better, MP will pair better for you between these 2, thanks for watching
@@frednsound Thanks you mate..
george korakas welcome:)
Can you plz review the Focal ES100K
Hi, will try to, thanks for watching
@@frednsound would love to see that =)
you think a 50 watt amp (active) would be ok i like the kicker "keys" line up.
Hi, could work, but I would go at least 60-100rms, thanks for watching
Cool video. Your thoughts
On the speakers?
It’s a descent speaker, works ok, not high-end for sure, tweeters are thin, there much better sets out there for the same cost, if someone likes Mille then stick to legend 1650, thanks for watching
What was your power going to them, and crossover points? Or, did you run them full range, and let the passive crossovers do all the crossover duites? Luv your videos, and use the one track as a reference after I tune, I forget the name, but has glass breaking, forest sounds, etc, left and right, back and fourth
Christian D Shatto hi, you talk about jungle in space, glad you liked my videos and music, try the new track of 8D-audio I’ve just released:
th-cam.com/video/-KBXVCinV_w/w-d-xo.html
This set gets 150rms, full range from the amp, to the passive crossovers, thanks for watching
Please tell us about the setting on amplifier
Hi, in this setup, we used flat crossovers point, thanks for watching
Hi Fred... I was Going to buy Hertz MPK 165.3 PRO and it's really cheap in my country... About $250
But with this price i have this options too:
AUDIO SYSTEM AE650C
Rockford T1650-S
Helix P 62C
Helix Esprit E 62C.2
Image Dynamics CXS64
Alpine SPX-177R
STEG MT650C
STEG MT650C II
DLS RC6.2
DLS RMC6.2
DLS Ultimate UPi6 ( it's a little more exepensive than others but if it's best choise it's not matter )
DLS RC6.3
Gladen RS-X 165
Focal PS 165V1 ( Used )
Focal PS 165F ( Used )
So what do you think? just go with Hertz MPK 165.3 PRO or no? one of other optiones that i named?
Sound quality is the most important thing for me, detail, clarity, depth and accurate sound and everything that improve sound quality.
i mostly listen to rock and EDM and i really dont want a very very sharp sound or harsh sound.
Hi, I would recommend the steg MTor audio system AE, but surely they are fake as the AE cost 649euro and mt 589eur, so skip them.. the Image Dynamics CXS64 has good vocals but lacking on bass, or the DLS Ultimate UPi6, thanks for watching
@@frednsound I guess they are not fake.
they are not $300 or euro in my country... i just change my country monetary unit into $.
but they are cost similar to Hertz MPK 165.3 PRO in my country.
assuming that they are not fake which one do you you recommend?
STEG MT650C or STEG MT650C II
or AUDIO SYSTEM AE650C?
what's the difference between these three?
@@babaksadeghi2649 MT650C and AE650C are discontinued because of the fake issues, the ME650CII will be preferred, thanks
@@frednsound Hmmm... Tnx man.
There is about 9 models of STEG component available
in my country!
ME650CII is also available and it costs about $550.
So there is not fake of ME650CII in the market?
Is there any way to distinguish between genuine and fake?
ML653C is also available for about $600.
And SG 650C for about $450.
What do you think about these models?
They are all MADE IN ITALY for both STEG and AUDIO SYSTEM.
And the last thing, Do MT650C and ME650CII have the same price? Cuz as i said ME650CII costs about $550, but on the other hand MT650C costs about $250!!!
BTW i guess only one particular company imports STEG and AUDIO SYSTEM products into my country with the same warranty.
You're really helping me a lot by taking the time to answer my questions and guide me.
Thank you...
@@babaksadeghi2649 your welcome, well it’s doesn’t make sense, ml653 is about 1k euro, ME 700euro, looks odd to me, what is your location?
Good but Hertz MLK 165 series is Father of All .
Hi, for hertz series’s MLK1650.3 is the best, other that, many better models for that same cost, thanks for watching
@@frednsoundhi Fred thank you for amazing videos. Which do you recommend hertz ml 280.3 or steg sq 32 with hertz ml 1600 woofer, hertz mp 70.3 mid range speakers. Thank you in advance!
@@azimovshoxrux9502 hi, Thanks! Sq32 is smother, warmer and more natural. Ml280.3 is more crisp and sharper. Depends on your preference. Thanks for watching
Mpk or mlk? 🤷♂️
hi, MLK, Thanks for watching
Krx2 or 1650?
Hi, 1650, thanks
H fred! Ever heard of RS audio? Is it goog
Hi, yes, it is a price tag brand, never found them different/special, thanks for watching
Thannks fred! Love listening to your site im from the philippines!
Matt kmazz glad to see you here mate, thanks
А почему без оформления?
What? Thanks for watching
@@frednsound , why without a box?
Car speakers are free air, your car doors are not box, also, this way you get the opportunity to see the speakers from all angles, open, as voice coil magnet and so, in enclosure sure they sound better, but it’s just to mistake you, as most people don’t install enclosure at the car, thanks
Хорошо, понятно. Good.
Hertz mpk 165.3 pro vs mpk 163.3 pro difference
hi, the mpk163.3 is a 3-way kit, depending on your setup needs, thanks for watching
Which one is the newest? And I have a 14 GMC Sierra what’s a good set up to run?
@@demetriusmcilwain7480 if you need 2-way then go for the 165.3, thanks
Ok and is the hertz SV 165.1 good for the rear?
@@demetriusmcilwain7480 SV is for spl, will not match the mpk series, thanks
I don't like at all. I had 1 years ago. Tweeter are worst than steg sq650tw and cost a lot more the hertz. Woofer are nothing special, dead sound, when i tried i compared with alpine spg17cs woofer (better than hertz dsk165.3), and i don't noticed particular difference except the cost.
Daniel Caschetto hi, yeah they sound thin, mlk1650.3 is a good set, you can’t compare them to any STEG series’s, sure the SQ650TW is the lowest series from steg, but sound way better, just imagine the upper series’s, thanks for watching
@@frednsound any steg better than mlk?
ST MT AE SG ME and sure the SS..