@@RadiantPercivalChristian moms like to embarass the fuck out of their sons for having a girlfriend or being friends with a girl for some reason I know from experience…
i imagine hunter in a gas station watching someone refilling their car, and then their dad comes out and hunter, hiding behind his car door, whispering "very suspicious". and everyone can see and hear him and thinks he's on drugs or something.
"Go to the cornfield and carve your name into the grain silo, or the Husked Men will take you away to the Moonshine-y Gentleman!" (it's secretly really just a plot for kids to get the fuck out of Nebraska and into a college)
Wendigoon going from "I did the my girlfriend doesn't go here move as a kid" to "The girls at my school bullied me relentlessly, and I had a lisp, AND i loved DBZ" in the matter of seconds without any more prodding is hilarious
And the part where they would put him in the trashcan like no one asked he's trauma dumping while high all because of the name Jacoby 😂 now he's the coolest guy on the internet
How tf can Hunter claim to be from the Midwest if he’s never had a 30 minute conversation with an old white man outside of a kwik trip in the middle of nowhere at 1 am
I live in a small town in Texas, with a combination of ADHD and autism, i don't care how kind you are, you take more than five minutes of my time talking about your wife, your smoked meats, your fishing, anything, I'm done and leaving xD I don't have time to listen to your life story even if you might have time to listen to mine, I ain't telling anyway. I got shit to do
Dumb question but is there really a gas station chain in the Midwest called Kwik-Trip? I’m from the Carolina’s and there is a popular gas station chain here called Quik-Trip (More often known as QT). I wonder if they’re related. On a side note my favorite Midwest gas station is Kum & Go given the amazing name 😂
Hunter being suspicious of southern hospitality and conversation starters is SO Missourian of him. Lived in Missouri for 4 years and everyone was so suspicious of everyone lmao
Noticed that moving into a northern state too. People don't like to talk as much! Southern hospitality and making new friends go hand in hand, but only in the south methinks.
As a listener to unsubscribe, I was worried the minute I heard this that you guys were going to track down his school bullies and bully them off the Internet 😂
Screaming at Hunter’s emphasis on how if the red door was important than the teacher would have mentioned it in the story and saying that it’s probably a different door and COMPLETELY missing how the teacher did in fact mention how there was a freshly painted red door during the first telling
@@ItAllComesBackToTheWall yeah usually i dont mind if they miss something, but it completely changed his theories after that. on top of that it was a really cool full circle moment and to know the whole time hunter was thinking it was an entirely different location was frustrating LOL
It also shows the passage of time in the story. When Mr. Mays sees the freshly painted red door, then later Jack comes upon the door after it has aged and the paint is now peeling.
Creepcast is becoming integral to my Saturday errands. I don’t think I’d be able to scrub a toilet or put away dishes without listening to the giggles of two grown ass men reading internet spookies
I love that Mr. Mays' therapist told him to talk about his trauma to his friends and family, but Mr. Mays interpreted that as, "Tell all your students a watered down, half-truths version of the experience that utterly traumatized you."
I always interpreted the voice in the tunnel as being Mr. Mays reaching out to Jack. It would make sense why they clarified his death earlier in the story. Not only did he let him out of the tunnel, but I think the "Tell me what you see" line was sort of mocking Jack for even going to the Showers. Seems in line with his character. Also Mr. Mays' story specifically mentioned a freshly painted red door with an elaborate door knocker on it, so I think they were definitely in the same location. As for the silo I theorize that the silo was removed to cut off access from the Showers, seeing as that's where Mr. Mays' friend saw somebody entering. I've been a fan of this story for a long time and have had a lot of time to think about it lmao
I really like your theory. It makes sense. Also, this was actually my introduction into no sleep/creepy pasta stories. So this will forever be one of my favs. I literally thought about this story for weeks lol
My thinking is that it's different not because of the silo persay or even the peeling paint, but because the knocker was on the wrong side of the door. Jack went the opposite direction, and yet he still encountered the knocker
@@heededshadow509 But when Jack went through the door he almost ran into a hanging piece of sheet metal, like the one that collapsed on Mr. Mays' friend. That's too specific of a detail to not be related, along with the red paint. I think I more possible that there was a door knocker on both sides
@@Ahad-bj1cz the ending was extremely sad. But everything related to the presence of the weird man leading up to the ending was fucking terrifying. To me anyways lol I felt like I was being watched.
@@Ahad-bj1cz I personally find that story to be the most frightening. Stuff that I don't understand always creeped me out. Penpal focusing around a guy who has weirdest intentions was incredibly creepy. Forest sections, camera noises, balloon build up, murders, unseen photos on the phone and final reveal left me really scared. For example something like Borrasca didnt scare me with its reveal, cause I at least understand intentions or the villains, while Penpal villain acted inhuman and his actions never made sense that even after reading the story I stayed horrified by it. P.S. I read Borrasca, Penpal, 1999, Normal Corn for Normal People, Majoras Mask and The Showers myself, cause I heard how good those stories are. I love all of those stories, but if I had to choose the most scariest one from those, then its definitely Penpal. Apologies for dwelling, I just really wanted to share my opinion.
@@RandomPerson-nd2ey fair enough but even without the internet if kids/teenagers wanted to viciously bully someone they still would and did find ways to do it
Wendigoon: Oh guys! Im on meds! I am going to be silly!Please ignore it🙂! *IMMEDIATELY* starts oversharing about how he was the sad nerdy kid in middle school
I love the idea of Mr. Weller, the perfectly normal blood bank runner, and the ominous man who says foreboding things about Mr. Weller, because he’s afraid of needles or something.
the therapist: you need to talk about your trauma to work through it the teacher: ok i’ll start telling it to children like a spooky story every halloween the therapist: wait n-
I actually had a math teacher in the 8th grade who did this 😂 He told us about encountering a demon at the bar, who turned their head sideways and morphed in to the devil. He was so serious too. I learned no math in that class. He also told us all the computers in town were linked to a super computer terminal. 😅
I can remember in the original "Where Are You, Scooby Doo?" cartoon, they would always refer to Scooby as a "ham". I have vivid memories of Velma saying "what a ham!" when Scooby would do a little skit or there was a comedic moment.
SCOOBY DOO!! I thought I must’ve heard it from Peanuts or something. I’m realizing now you must be right, I just remembered someone calling a dog a ham for playing pretend. Velma would call Scooby a ham for being scared, I assumed it was Lucy being mean to Snoopy or something. thank u for sharing lol
Whew 😅 I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking he was still telling his personal story, lol! I laughed so hard when I saw he actually reading the story! 😂
Throwing my head back in ecstasy, shooting ropes, screaming so loud it wakes the neighborhood at the sight of a new Creepcast. This shit is everything to me, man.
I know two things. 1- the tunnel being so long and winding means it’s probably drawing out a shape or symbol underground. 2- Wendigoon on meds is a mood.
@@SJ-sp8fj They said the tunnel winds and turns, a pentagram-shaped tunnel would have sharp turns and straight corridors. There are also no intersections, and pentagrams have plenty. It's a nice idea but the tunnel is always described as a single narrow passageway, no intersections, no regularity. A squiggle, not a pictogram.
@beckstheimpatient4135 That's under the assumption that firstly, the protagonist is in any state to notice intersections in the dark while crawling around with a broken knee and a head injury, and secondly that the pentagram actually completely meets with no walls between lines. If, ssay for example, the showers are designed to fill the tunnels with gore, there may be walls defining each section of pentagram to facilitate the filling. But, you are probably right. I just like the idea of a slaughterhouse drain situation in the middle, like the shiny man in borrasca, that provides the sewerage system with gloopyness that fills up an underground pentagram with gore that ends in the summoning of some sort of goat-headed entity.
When he tried to start the story backup after his sad childhood and he said "My friendships were often fleeting" at 23:25 I genuinely thought he was still going lol.
1:59:35 one of the descriptions that the teacher gave in his original story was that the door they came up to with his friends had just recently been painted red. when the kid returns as an adult, he notes that the red paint is peeling now.
I love the moment when Jack says that Mr Mays died of liver failure and then says he's going to continue the story when he's sober. Such a great way to foreshadow.
He always turned the stories into his and then he ended up doing the same thing as Mr. Mays, drinking and sharing the story to get past it. Maybe it was the drugs, maybe it was the concussion. They know what they saw was there
man, poor souther old people. just trying to start a conversation and suddenly hunter calls them a demon and runs away screaming " YOU'LL NEVER HAVE MY BLOOD!!".
It was definitely the same place as Mays. The ceiling had collapsed outside the door where his friend had his head cut open, and when MC rushed out the door, he "nearly slammed into a piece of the collapsed ceiling"
Two things: 1) with the emphasis on the child's eyes, I wonder if those were the red eyes in the woods Mr Mays and his friends saw on the road during their trip 2) jack was down there for a LONG time, enough to wait a while for Steve, navigate the showers, and CRAWL for MILES. But when he gets out, Steve is only just returning from getting rope to the building. Definitely some time shenanigans
I was thinking that since his foot was injured and he was CRAWLING as well makes time slow down because you’re in so much pain in an uncomfortable position, so what could’ve been a five minute walk feels like a 5 mile crawl for Jack. But now that you mention it, maybe there was some time-warp involved? Like remember there was a time-travel-like shenanigan with the bermuda triangle where a plane went head-first into a storm and kind of warped through time to make them get to their destination 30 minutes earlier and there was something with their gas as well? I don’t remember the details, but what if it was some supernatural time-warp in the tunnel? Jack COULD have actually been crawling for miles in that tunnel, but when he gets out he’s only less than a hundred feet away from the barn?
Y'all remember he was concussed right? Nothing he says after his fall can be taken at face value at all. His 'forever' could have been all of 5 minutes for all we know
I read it as he’s taking Mr May’s journey in reverse as the door was red in mays story and the pice of the ceiling the protagonist encounters after opening the fire is the one that killed Mr mays friend. I think Steve noticed his friend wasn’t in the hole after getting the rope so he saw the direction the tumble went and made his way other there, just meeting up with our protagonist as he escapes
I definitely think the “children” are meant to be supernatural entities. Mr. Mays literally said “they took him, he didn’t make it” in reference to his dead friend, implying that said friend died because of the things in the showers. Not to mention the hatred in their eyes and whatnot. The voice whispering to Jack seemed like it was coaxing him to look into the kids’ eyes, as if that’s how they “take” you. I assume that Mr. Mays’ friend gave into the voice’s influence and did just that, essentially hypnotizing him into going with the children and staying in that evil place. As for the setting, it is definitely the same place in both Jack’s and Mr. Mays’ experiences. Mr. Mays’ DID say the door was red, and mentioned the knocker as well. The metal sheet that injured his friend was still there for Jack too. The paint being chipped and the silo being gone/the cellar door being overgrown are just meant to show that a lot of time has passed. Also, I think the disconnected nature of the elements of the showers is purposeful. I believe the showers is meant to be *literally* Hell leaking out onto the earth, hinted at by Mr. Mays’ line at the bar. It’s uncanny, smells of death, has no perceivable real world use, and instills humans with dread just by entering. It’s pure evil. Maybe the woman at the gas station is one of the few survivors of a past attempt to destroy the showers, but they failed and lots of people died/were “taken”. Her generation gave up and chose to look the other way, too scared to fight it or even talk about it, so it grew into obscurity. That’s how I interpreted it, at least.
Yeah but I think the silo not being there is because they entered from the other side of the tunnel so the building and surroundings would be different, he crawls back to the other side, the side with the wooden barn door with the silo outside but he didn't see it because he was injured af. Thats what I think is missing from your otherwise spot on assessment.
The kids could have just have a general hatred in their eyes from mistreatment. Not saying you're wrong but the story is too ambiguous to really be about anything, I honestly don't think the writer even knew, at least at the time, just wanted a story full of spooky things for vibes and feels, not meaningful narrative. And mr Mays never describes what happens. Maybe they physically took his friend (he doesn't say) maybe Mays had to leave him and because he never saw his friend assumed it was the people there (only the kids are ever described) not the friend bleeding out and dying from lack of care and mays convinced himself it was more concrete out of guilt and preserving his sanity
I'm making a list of things Hunter doesn't trust in stories; * Kids * Adults around kids * Moms of the kids/narrator * New Characters * Isaiah * Showers * Stairs * Basements(i get this one) * Police (i get this one too) * The narrator * The reader * Wendigoon Edit: Add more please!
I think the voice at the end was his teacher's spirit. He needed someone to believe what he saw and wanted Jack to tell him he saw the same thing. When Jack panicked, it was an implied admission that he saw something dangerous. So when the voice said ''relax for a second, I'll get it" it was him opening the lock for Jack. This let's the teacher Rest In Peace as he was haunted by not only not having anyone believe him, but he saved his student in a way he couldnt save his friend.
the bickering really does it for me honestly jahhkajdhsla i played my dad an episode on a road trip n he got so annoyed he was like "CAN THEY JUST READ THE DAMN STORY?" n i was like ....... but sir the goofy guys having fun is where its at
Ahaha, I think my dad would’ve been the same way… He HATED when my sibling and I would pause movies to squeal and rant over the story! Thank you for your comment, it reminded me of my dad who passed away this time last year and it’s the first time I’ve been able to relate this to someone without crying. He was a really amazing dude and I just miss him, so, again, thank you so much and whole-heartedly, you made my day!
Actually I think it's just dirty water all along. I think the story would be the best if in the end it would turn out that there were no supernatural at all just an abandoned human traficking rig with insane children left alone in the dark.
In case you guys didn't know, the author actually wrote a sequel to The Showers. I would really love for you guys to cover it sometime, I think it does a fantastic job of exploring what the showers actually are and it has some really strong themes that work off of the first story. Loving the podcast guys! Edit: I know they mentioned there was a sequel later on. I posted my comment right after they finished the story and realized they weren't going to cover it. I still hope they will read it sometime, but I can understand if they're ready to read something else.
The sequel is treated with more disdain by fans of the original than Borrasca V is by fans of Borrasca for a reason. Borrasca V is an average story that's subpar in comparison to I-IV; the sequel to The Showers is just flat-out bad. It feels far more like fanfic than the same author trying to write an actual sequel. As for "exploring what the showers actually are": It feels as though the story is written intentionally to leave the reader/listener in the dark about it. The sequel feels like it attempts to force some answer, _any_ answer, for readers/listen who are too belligerent to accept an ending where someone goes "Okay, this is too messed up, I don't care about my curiosity, I'm leaving this the hell alone." (Honestly, it feels like it was made over-the-top intentionally bad to scorn these people. but that may be me projecting.)
The conversation between Wendigoon and Papa Meat about the conversations that start from noticing someone’s license plate is a perfect example of the Extrovert Friend and the Introvert Friend, and I think it’s so funny and wholesome.
Which is funny because on cream crew he’s described as the extrovert of the group. Wendigoon just has that natural southern hospitality and friendliness in his genes I guess.
thats not really an introvert vs extrovert thing, its just not wanting to be friendly with complete strangers or being against small talk. im extroverted but i hate small talk lmao.
I saw this story almost as a what if Borrasca never got exposed and eventually just stopped running. This barn in the middle of nowhere originally seen by Mr.Mays in his younger years, is almost a “stable” when it was possibly up and running. I think the demonic noises he hears that are later eluded to being similar to jack screaming, are the screams of the victims stuck there at the time he had found it. the showers possibly being something that maybe the victims were forced to use for unknown yet reasons that can be imagined, and that over the years the pipes have eroded and tainted the water, changing the color and thickness. It even makes sense that whoever would be holding people there would allow the path leading to it to overgrow and almost hide in plain sight, the general desolation of the Nebraska fields already giving off an unsettling vibe it would make sense that a path of overgrown trees would look like hands grabbing at you, and possibly the light breaking through the trees giving the illusion of thousands of eyes watching. By the time jack finds it whatever operations were there have been shut down for the most part, but not entirely. I think that some of the victims were left down there for dead, My guess is, this isn’t like borrasca in the sense of the depravity of the story (tho it’s possible, things like that are only ever eluded to for the sake of my theory), I believe it is something along the lines of a cult that got discovered, or possibly a trafficking ring. I don’t believe the child actually had ill intentions, I think the child may have been asking for help, but didn’t know how because it had spent its entire life down there, possibly the parents of the child being victims of this place, the child a heartbreaking creation from the depths of this hell. I think Mr mays found the entrance that was created by the perpetrators of who created this place and that jack stumbled across the entrance meant for the victims. Either theory also makes sense as to why the locals don’t want to talk about anything relating to it, “no one around here knows anything about that anymore”. Anymore definitely means she knew something or someone relating to it and just wants to forget about it. I also believe that it’s possible that the child saw jack in his scared state went up and investigated him, and then actually was the one to open the door for him, the child possibly staying behind because they had never been outside before and was scared himself, and I believe that when jack heard his friend talking from behind the door, it was just a hallucination brought on by his concussion and extreme fear in that moment. In my mind this story lends itself so perfectly to being something that is actually grounded in reality that is so wild it almost feels like something evil or magical is going on P.s I’ve done no research on this story so I could be dead wrong, this is just my interpretation
I agree with this since I felt the story was too grounded to be supernatural. Maybe the meat from the showers was food for the kids? That seems more likely than a demon being born out of it.
The "child" in the story is probably not actually human. Tapetum lucidum is the term for the membrane that reflects light in animal eyes, and humans don't have it. So, whatever it was, it likely wasn't a person at all.
If I remember my basic biology from high school right I think humans do have a similar structure, it’s what causes eyes to turn red in flash photos sometimes
imagine being someone who saw 7th grade isaiah and would pick him up and put him in a trash can only to see him years later talk about you on a horror podcast
When Wendigoon tries to one up Hunters dark humor, and immediately Hunter just hits him with something so out of pocket he just bursts out laughing is one of the most genuine "polar opposites attract" friendships in action, its so authentic and organic
Thank you guys, I haven’t had a good laugh in awhile, but you saying “well he’s been taking photos of you for the past while, check his phone check his phone” gave me such a good hard laugh that I just haven’t had in awhile
Hunter dropping the Robert E Lee thing and saying another teacher cried at Gone with the Wind just set my "Missouri is not the South" argument back 50 years.
When the story mentioned that there were no cobwebs in the building, that immediately triggered the thought that the lady was lying when she said “we don’t do that anymore”
@arsena5209 yeah cause, they keep talking about that putrid smell and those puddles of disgusting liquid but there's not one fly?? Not even a singular cockroach? Something is amiss
I think at the very end where that voice says, “I’ll take care of it, just rest a second” I like to think that’s somehow the spirit of maybe his teacher or his teacher’s lost friend unlocking the door
I was thinking that too at first. Like whichever one it was wanted confirmation that what they saw was really there from an outside source and this was his only chance
As a native born and raised Okie I absolutely love the way Papa described the eeriness of the empty Midwest and comparing it to the ocean. There is something peaceful, but also very off putting and even alarming about the countryside’s vast emptiness. It feels like an absence that’s so strong it becomes a presence of its own.
As someone born and raised in New Zealand, where you’re never far from valleys, hills, mountains and oceans - the idea of flat plains stretching beyond the horizon is so harrowing.
I moved around a lot in my life but was mostly raised partially in kansas and partially in south carolina. the landscapes AND the people are so different it's uncanny, but because I've been around both my whole life I completely understand the imagery of the huge flat open empty fields, the trees reaching out to grab the car, and both sides of the license plate argument. If I hear one more person say "haha you're not in kansas anymore huh?" at any point in my life I will scream, and I hate talking/being talked to but I STILL prefer polite small-talk to everyone seeming to ignore my existence other than a slight expressionless glance or seemingly suspecting me of something for no reason. Overall I DO prefer when everyone just keeps to themselves, but walking by without a smile or a nod just comes off as impolite, especially if I had just mustered up the courage to make eye contact and smile first just to be nice, it's always been a bit hard for me to do
I'm a 60 yrs old lady, my daughter turned me on to Wendigo 1st and then she hooked me up with Papa Meat! I friggin love you 2!!! I had to commute to work in the early morning hours & the drive was on Dark Scary Road in Arizona! I would listen to Coast to Coast! It was so cool!
That's so lovely! You live in Arizona? One of the stories Wendigoon and Papa Meat read on this channel, "The Left Right Game," takes place there. Have you watched those videos yet? If not, I bet you'd love it :)
@@Pragabond It was a dark scary road! It was a 2 lane Hwy. My job started at 4 AM & It took about 1 hour to get there on time! So I've had a lot of weird critters jumping in front of my head lights! But I looked forward to the drive because of Coast To Coast!!
@leslie-tc2po Fellow Arizonan, those dark desert roads can be spooky for sure! Glad you enjoy the content it's always neat to see people of older generations enjoying internet stuff like this. A lot of older people I know just think it's weird. Hahaha
In my opinion, It has something to do with a time loop-type thing. I think this is shown with the ending line of him talking about getting another drink, like his English teacher. He also became an English teacher, like his English teacher, and told the stories to his students. I feel like it’s also a metaphor for how urban legends get told and passed down, with the story being slightly different every time, “like a game of telephone” like the author themself says. That’s why there’s so many pieces that don’t quite fit in, since as a story gets passed down over time, it changes and some pieces get lost and don’t make as much sense when compared to one another. Maybe I’m thinking too far deep into it but I found this story to be very metaphorical and not taken at face value.
Yes. I think they moved past the 'time loop' theory too quickly, and that they brushed over the importance of the narrator being both unreliable and relaying an urban legend. if you try and find answers to the showers and the kids, ofc youre going to be disappointed, but if you take it as the hauntings of urban legends themselves its really neat.
That would make the mention of jacks dog like whimpers make a lot more sense(not that they don’t make sense regardless lol). Kind of like in the left right game maybe the teacher heard his future student. Also like Wendi said what if it try’s to get you to join them so it wants you to look into the eyes of the children to test your will and see how controllable you are. and if you don’t pass it looks you in the eyes and puts something in your brain to send more potential members through you telling the story thus getting another curious person to come. Just a stretch lol but very good story.
That makes so much sense! That would mean that all of the story is a therapy conversation, as mister Maze said "You would think this wouldn't fauck me up?"
That was what I was expecting when the story ended, I really thought he was gonna wake up on a couch during a therapy session - I do like the idea of it bein mr mayes like a lot of commenters have been sayin
Hunter's story about his teacher crying during Gone with the Wind and everyone in class laughing at her right after Isaiah's heartfelt talk about a teacher that had a huge impact on him was perfect comedy lol Polar opposite stories yet somehow both just as relatable.
Wendigoon talking about being homeschooled and having religious parents is too relatable. My terrifying moment was when a guy said he would tell my mom I played Guitar Hero at a friend's house. You're not alone, Wendigoon. You're not alone.
It’s interesting the amount of variety in homeschool families. I was homeschooled and my folks are very religious but their rules were pretty lax. Basically be home by dark and no r rated movies until you’re a teen lol. But then I knew another family who were secular and homeschooled for anti-gov reasons, and they had a pretty strict diet and rules against a lot of popular culture stuff.
@@mere7583 I feel bad for the kids in that family 😅 of course spoiling your kids isn't a good thing but there's a difference between that and being paranoid of everything
@@arsena5209 Yeah, I think there was good and bad in it. Like they weren't allowed to consume any pro-military movies/tv shows, which back then (pretty soon after 9/11) seemed weird but I kinda get now.
Just putting in my two cents that it is the same tunnel, Mr Mays had mentioned that the door looked freshly painted red, so now the door is old and the paint is flaking; but also as Jack scrambles out said door he nearly hits his head on the same metal sheet that had come loose and knocked out Mr Mays’s friend. Love that he ended up finding the showers from the other direction though, that was really fun!
lmao I was thinking the same thing when Meat was saying the door wasn't red before and screaming in my mind that they should look back at the actual text when discussing it at the end because they keep forgetting the shit they read in the same story 😂
THANK YOU,,, I was gaslighting myself so hard like " the door WAS explicitly mentioned as being freshly painted red, right???? the ceiling DID collapse on the friend????" I passed out asleep a little bit after that part and it got to where I was questioning if I'd dreamed or hallucinated the explicit multiple connections to the original story
If I ever see Hunter in public I am 100% going to walk up to him and just say "I've been watching you, you look like you can control fire." and walk away without explaination.
@@Mannnnnnnn I’d assume because the areas around the highways in Southern Nevada are a lot more populated so a serial killer couldn’t be active for long without getting caught.
Midwest for about a decade now. My mom (born and raised here) calls my son a ham. 😂 Other than that, I've also never heard that, but it's cool to know. Thank you, fellow viewer.
@@lamiyahjackson5686okey, the idea of a ritual/sacred ground that you can access from different doors and points in time, but it's fixed in a continuous moment (it's own time outside of our reality's) is super cool
@randomvideoboy1 "I hate having to think" is basically what you just said. The sequel sucks BECAUSE he explains shit in it. Good horror is when you don't explain the monster or the scary thing, because what an individual thinks it is is 10x more scary then any sort of explanation.
Story idea, A maintenance man that specializes on renovating haunted houses and figuring out how to adjust or appease things with the spirit in mind to make stuff work again.
For Mr. Mays' story, if you found an underground room full of dirty, malnourished children, wouldn't you assume they'd been kidnapped or were being held down there? Yet, Mr. Mays was so terrified of these children that he even closed the door to keep them in that room. And when he supposedly talked to the police, he only wanted back the body of his friend, he didn't seem worried about the children at all. When Jack encounters one, he describes the hatred in their eyes and how he feels like they want to hurt him. Even though this child is so weak and malnourished they can barely even crawl, he still fears for his life. He repeats what Mr. Mays' did by closing the cellar door to stop the child from getting out. Although he doesn't open his eyes until the door is closed, so it is possible the child got out without him knowing. This all seems to suggest that the children aren't "normal" children because of the intense fear they instill in both Mr. Mays and Jack. The voice whispering to him through the cellar door implies that someone else is aware of/running this whole operation and seems to want to know what Jack thinks of the children. We could speculate that this person talking to Jack was Mr. Mays' friend whose body was never recovered, but I think that's unlikely. This person might be someone involved in "creating" these children so to speak as some sort of experiment. Since this person was specifically whispering outside the cellar door, that implies it was a real person who didn't want to be heard by Steve, not a supernatural entity. The old woman that Jack and Steve spoke to essentially said "people don't deal with that sort of business anymore, that was a long time ago" which suggests this was some sort of operation that people knew about decades ago. The reason other people in town might not have known about it may be because it ended (or was supposed to) so many years ago. I do wonder if the hatred the child seemed to show wasn't for Jack, but for the light he was carrying. At the end, the child is directly in his face, but seemingly doesn't touch him. Then, the flashlight is outside the cellar door as if the child put it there. It's also interesting how, in Mr. Mays' story, the lightbulbs burst before the door is knocked open, as if the children didn't want to see the light. They didn't follow them into the tunnel either as far as we know. Since Jack was able to open the red door from inside the room, there's nothing really keeping the children in that room. They would have been able to go out into the tunnel if they wanted, although they might not have been able to get out the cellar door. Crawling through the tunnels would have been difficult since the children were so malnourished, but as we saw in Jack's case, one of them did crawl all the way there. Of course, like Hunter and Isaiah were saying, we don't know how much thought the author actually put into all this, or if it was more of a "wouldn't that be a scary concept" kind of thing.
I honestly think they're just demon kids and the author was fixated on the le spooky child meme, thought of a location to put them in, then didn't go much further. Isaiah's invitation to worship theory is probably the best answer you can graft into the story, and makes the story a lot more interesting because it implies things about the missing friend maybe going cultic, and the neutral nature of a seemingly malevolent entity if - fairly speaking, after a show of force - it's willing to let you go if you don't show interest. Personally I think it was more of a Medusa scenario, ghost kid needs to be seen to hurt you, and was lulling him into opening his eyes - with the door opening being a sort of Act Of God Moment as is often seen in stories without Chekhov's Ammo, let alone Chekhov's Gun, and that tying those events together is probably not true to the author's intention but is better than their actual idea.
@@Wolf_ManJack Ooooh. Interesting. The author did create a work that would be heavily altered by other storytellers. It's a smart move. Tell a story, invite the audience to finish it/make it more. But admit up front that your story may be embellished to begin with.
The silo was a spaceship of aliens conducting experiments on child captives. The children are full of hatred and suspicion after years of mistreatment. The teacher and the main character were just scared because they're selfish wimps that did nothing in the moment and didn't return with rescue or help. But the real meaning behind the story is the author just threw in some spooky stuff with a vague story and said "you connect them" when there was never really thought behind it
I mean, If you, in the middle of nowhere, in a desolate abandoned place, went into a random cellar and just randomly saw dozens of identical zombie like children surrounded by darkness just standing around, would you seriously consider staying there and asking around, for all you know it could've been some secret cannibal tribe or something. Although I agree the teacher guy definitely could've been a bit more concerned about them as well, but running would've been my first instinct, at least wait to revisit it at daytime with some proper company and prep I guess. But I do feel like the police wouldn't have been helpful because at least from the gas station lady, the town seems to know what's been going on so they could've been in on it. Unfortunately we'll never really know, the story definitely felt a bit short, but I really liked it.
Thank you guys for showing the book cover I designed for Penpal! 6:40 It is so surreal seeing something I did for class getting traction like it did. For anybody interested there is a second image that shows off more of the cover art such as the inside flaps with the completed text blurbs and back cover of the book on the sub reddit. For those asking where to see the pictures it's on the Creep Cast subreddit under the fan art tag. (It's not letting me reply to people right now for some reason)
"don't hold it against me unless it's funny." You guys are amazing. Hunter, you rock that expeshilly. It used to drive me nuts, but now i anomonously love it
Hunter freaking out over the most common and generic gas station interaction is so funny to me, at least in VA where I'm from this is seen as like the default polite and friendly interaction with someone who's from super far away
@@mgeiger2341 He's ONE guy from Missouri chill dude. Also no part of it sounds like a lack of manners just a really peculiar stance on small talk Its actually incredibly common here too which is what makes it so funny that he's so completely defensive about someone making normal small talk and then thinking oh yeah everyone will agree with me in the comments. No part of living in Missouri should give you that impression Hunter are you ALSO high?
@@Pragabond 1. It's very rude to shout. 2. It's also very rude to assume one is intoxicated. 3. The tone was clearly sarcastic. 4. Knotting ones knickers is very counterproductive. Also very painful, don't do that. Does that answer your qualms Little Boy Blue?
I really like Wendigoon's line of thought near the end. I believe that the girl may be the *actual vessel* for whatever is summoned. It may not even be a demonic entity per say. "What do you see (what do i look like to you?" "I'll get it." *reaches over/through Jack to unlock the door. It is at this moment all he can see is hair.
I fell asleep in the first few minutes of this one. Woke up at the end and have no idea what happened so I am rewatching it. I had a never-ending dream to this one where I couldn't turn this episode off. I tried to ask google to turn it off but I couldn't talk or scream or anything. My childhood cat was sitting on my chair, was lovely to see her again. I started taking batteries out of things, i broke my phone in half, unplugged my pc but nothing stopped you guys from talking. I was told I yelled weird shit in my sleep and woke up mid "yell". 10/10 nap guys, thank you.
I think it’s worth note that something strange happens in both stories once an injury happens. It’s only a tunnel, until Maze’s friend got hit in the head, or when Jack dislocated his leg. It’s like pain brought out the children and the showers. It’s the key to it potentially
Yooo I’m good pals with Dylan the writer. I’m sure he’d enjoy talking to you guys. The reason the book is currently out of stock is because he’s working on a new edition with different cover artwork. He’s told me that hopefully that edition should be out soon.
@@firefly9838 idk why or how but I know there’s more to this story with Jack’s girlfriend and all but considering that Wendi and Hunter didn’t cover it, I’m confused
The detail the MC added about the hanging piece of sheet metal in the tunnel convinced me it was in fact the same place as the Teacher's story. The one that knocked the friend out and cut his forehead open. Seems to me the silo being removed is a hint towards the town trying to cover up the past
I think the silo was on the side of the tunnel with the cellar door. To me, it seems like the MC entered the same tunnel, but from the other side of the red door.
The hollow "fake floor" that the MC fell through could be the where the silo used to be. I was sure the place they found sounded larger than originally described. Could have built over it.
Yea I don’t think that’s debated or needs convincing, it is definitely the same place that’s why those obvious parts were added. Now stuff like the purpose/what went down there, Who the beings there were (ghosts, demons, etc), and everything else is all deliciously hard to decipher!
It’s been 7 years since I last read this story. I was 9 when I last read this story and completely forgotten about it’s existence only having small memories to the classroom being decorated in Halloween decorations and the teacher getting ready to tell a story. Once I heard the red door I was like “Ohhhh I read this before”. Cool to get some nostalgia and fun from Creepcast. I believe I originally listened to this story on the No Sleep podcast or somewhere on TH-cam.
New editing is so WILD, I really enjoy the background sounds even if they are infrequent because it makes the story feel more impactful and immersive. The metal sliding door after the chain gave me the deepest sense of dread a youtube video ever could and it has me so excited.
The yahoo answers link works in the wayback machine. Someone was asking about "The Showers" in 2010, one of the replies to the question was "I cant be exactly sure, but I just heard about it today and from what I have heard from a person that I trust completely, is that it is located in a barn with a hedge along the road in front of it, by my calculations it should be within 50-100 miles of Hastings itself in any given direction. but I was also told by this person not to dig for details......I know that most people think that it's a myth but the complete conviction with which this person told me the details was almost undeniable. I cant be sure of the exact circumstances of what happened there and if its still going on today, but I'm still researching and wont stop until I get a definitive answer." This is two years before this creepypasta came out.
Wendigoon sold me prescription fentanyl on turn 37 of the left right game
This would go so hard as merch
Put it on a shirt goddamn
I wish I was genius enough to have thought of this
😂
If you give it to the hitchhiker, he will leave everyone else alone. He's not really a bad guy, just has back pain
Wendigoon reading this entire story while high on fentanyl, naked in his shower that was barreling down a highway was really impressive.
How did he get a bear to be the driver though?
This comment made me laugh so hard I choked
Like patting your head a rubbing your stomach for pros
A true artist.
Skilled beyond belief to completely tell a story and paint a vivid picture in a comment section.
As a regular Creep Cast viewer, the concept of a shower alone has me terrified
you had me dying
Agreed. No vile modern standards of cleanliness will deprive me of my natural musk.
The real nightmare would be if Hunter was there with you
Showers are a social construct
Based and redpilled
The idea of a young Christian boy crying out “PLEASE DON’T TELL MY MOM I LIKE GIRLS!” is extremely funny to me
I actually cried laughing tears atp
"Mom, I... I'm... I'm straight."
"NO! SAY IT ISN'T SO! WHERE DID I GO WRONG!?"
Imagine Wendi crying like that vine with the girl crying because they found 2 guys kissing on her laptop
Having grown up around a few awkward, sheltered religious kids, that story was so hilariously real 😆
@@RadiantPercivalChristian moms like to embarass the fuck out of their sons for having a girlfriend or being friends with a girl for some reason
I know from experience…
It’s crazy how good the CGI is in this. You can barely tell that Isaiah was in the shower the entire time, whoever did it is very talented.
In the shower that was inside a heavy machine that he was operating. I'm impressed
They even managed to key frame his clothes on perfectly
Had to have been Kane 👀
AI has gotten really advanced.
@Eeb_005 nah otherwise he would've mentioned skibidi toilet
Hunter every time a side character shows up: "VERY SUSPICIOUS!"
this is why he doesn't talk to strangers at gas stations
Borrasca did one hell of a number on him lol
Random Woman: "Hello."
Hunter: "That woman is a demon ghost."
@@Domura Sounds more like something Wendigoon would do
i imagine hunter in a gas station watching someone refilling their car, and then their dad comes out and hunter, hiding behind his car door, whispering "very suspicious". and everyone can see and hear him and thinks he's on drugs or something.
Usually, when an episode eclipses the hour mark, it's either a fire story or Hunter and Isiah sharing one brain cell lmao
I was JUST thinking that, while they spend ten minutes talking to each other in the worst southern/Creole accents.
Sometimes it's both
@@LeahMichelle512 two hick-lites try to bully the other for being a hick.
Highlights:
-two professional writers who've never heard the idiom of someone being "a total ham"
-Jacoby is a boy's name
-Robert E Lee was the shit
Often both
I love how Borrasca was such an impactful trauma that they refer to it as "another Borrasca situation"
"Is it another Borrasca?"
No, it's worse.
*IT'S NEBRASKA*
@@Moonhermit- nebrassca
"Go to the cornfield and carve your name into the grain silo, or the Husked Men will take you away to the Moonshine-y Gentleman!"
(it's secretly really just a plot for kids to get the fuck out of Nebraska and into a college)
Neborrasca
@@Moonhermit- In that one the main character find his sister, save her and they end married happily ever after. 😆
Wendigoon trauma dumping as soon as the story starts, lol.
I felt bad for laughing too 😂
Puts you in bin
Cool comment. Hey btw are you a universal donor? Come down to the third corn field on the left in the Midwest. Just wanna ask you somethin
Showers traumatize us all
@@x-xPhobiaare you on a list
Wendigoon going from "I did the my girlfriend doesn't go here move as a kid" to "The girls at my school bullied me relentlessly, and I had a lisp, AND i loved DBZ" in the matter of seconds without any more prodding is hilarious
Worst spy candidate ever
Man, I had no idea Wendigoon had such a rough childhood.
Well we know wendi likes tall and buff ladies, what if it was a long con to get femdommed 🤔
And the part where they would put him in the trashcan like no one asked he's trauma dumping while high all because of the name Jacoby 😂 now he's the coolest guy on the internet
@@nunyabizness6113felt so bad, but laughed because it sounded straight out of a movie 😂
How tf can Hunter claim to be from the Midwest if he’s never had a 30 minute conversation with an old white man outside of a kwik trip in the middle of nowhere at 1 am
Solid nod to the Kwik trip. Takes me back to small town Ks.
I live in a small town in Texas, with a combination of ADHD and autism, i don't care how kind you are, you take more than five minutes of my time talking about your wife, your smoked meats, your fishing, anything, I'm done and leaving xD I don't have time to listen to your life story even if you might have time to listen to mine, I ain't telling anyway. I got shit to do
Wendi is right, its normal to small talk at gas stations
how is hunter from the midwest and not want to have that conversation. you hear the best philosophies outside a gastation
Dumb question but is there really a gas station chain in the Midwest called Kwik-Trip? I’m from the Carolina’s and there is a popular gas station chain here called Quik-Trip (More often known as QT). I wonder if they’re related. On a side note my favorite Midwest gas station is Kum & Go given the amazing name 😂
Can confirm being a ham, usually steamed, is a regional expression from Albany.
Springfield?
Not sure if true, when I was in Utica I’ve never heard it.
Shower heads? In this old farm house? In this are of the country? At this time of night year? At this time of night?
@@slipslugo4684 Can I see it?
@@p0laris813 no
Hunter being suspicious of southern hospitality and conversation starters is SO Missourian of him. Lived in Missouri for 4 years and everyone was so suspicious of everyone lmao
It's called the show me state for a reason lmao
Huh. Well, that explains my mom, I guess. She was born and raised in Missouri and she never trusted anyone or anything.
Everything is relative lol I moved here from PA, and people here are a lot more open and trusting
Yeah. Philadelphians don’t trust anyone either.
Noticed that moving into a northern state too. People don't like to talk as much! Southern hospitality and making new friends go hand in hand, but only in the south methinks.
The bully victim wendigoon lore really recontextualizes his interest in the goth dommy mommy type
True!
Don't forget the "tall" part, it's integral for this description
"Wendigolore"
with each revelation of Wendigoon backstory I can only think: "he just like me for real"
@@RkeR21 you were a homeschooled Christian?
Hearing the stories of how my son was bullied and thrown into trash cans during school makes me feel like a failure of a father.
As a listener to unsubscribe, I was worried the minute I heard this that you guys were going to track down his school bullies and bully them off the Internet 😂
Breaking news: Tony Gonzalez has reportedly published a new campaign ad lambasting his opponent for his shortcomings a s a father.
Lol
@@colinflack4517think you mean Tony Twinkledick
B tier Brandon??
Screaming at Hunter’s emphasis on how if the red door was important than the teacher would have mentioned it in the story and saying that it’s probably a different door and COMPLETELY missing how the teacher did in fact mention how there was a freshly painted red door during the first telling
Lol yes, I was so frustrated
@@ItAllComesBackToTheWall yeah usually i dont mind if they miss something, but it completely changed his theories after that. on top of that it was a really cool full circle moment and to know the whole time hunter was thinking it was an entirely different location was frustrating LOL
Especially when it mentions the detail of the sheet metal hanging from the ceiling
It also shows the passage of time in the story. When Mr. Mays sees the freshly painted red door, then later Jack comes upon the door after it has aged and the paint is now peeling.
Glad to see I'm not the only one shouting at podcasts 😅
Only 2 parts. How could it be two hours? "Yeah, so they used to throw me in a trash can at school." Oh that why
MR. WELLERS
@@ALu-nq8rfI was also coming to say MR WELLERS!!! 😂
Jacoby!
Creepcast is becoming integral to my Saturday errands. I don’t think I’d be able to scrub a toilet or put away dishes without listening to the giggles of two grown ass men reading internet spookies
true that 🤣 my clients probably think I'm insane laughing my ass off while detailing their car interior
The episodes always come out in my weekend to work. Only way I'm able to make it through the weekend!
Lmfao I do the same!
😂 I love that
Awwe me too they help me with chores
I love that Mr. Mays' therapist told him to talk about his trauma to his friends and family, but Mr. Mays interpreted that as, "Tell all your students a watered down, half-truths version of the experience that utterly traumatized you."
Seriously, never went to the police, FBI, private investigator anything that would bring closure and potential help or justice to what was going on
@@garrickditlefsen1653 lol in his defense, he did say the cops didn't believe him or his friends.
@@sashbanditand maybe some hallucinogens they were on right?
or cops in town were part of the cult (or whatever it was) and aware of this whole situation and that's why they didn't do anything
Alcoholic teachers be like: "let me tell you about my demons"
I always interpreted the voice in the tunnel as being Mr. Mays reaching out to Jack. It would make sense why they clarified his death earlier in the story. Not only did he let him out of the tunnel, but I think the "Tell me what you see" line was sort of mocking Jack for even going to the Showers. Seems in line with his character.
Also Mr. Mays' story specifically mentioned a freshly painted red door with an elaborate door knocker on it, so I think they were definitely in the same location.
As for the silo I theorize that the silo was removed to cut off access from the Showers, seeing as that's where Mr. Mays' friend saw somebody entering.
I've been a fan of this story for a long time and have had a lot of time to think about it lmao
I really like your theory. It makes sense. Also, this was actually my introduction into no sleep/creepy pasta stories. So this will forever be one of my favs. I literally thought about this story for weeks lol
The silo being removed makes sense because when Jack exits the cellar door he ends up outside next to a bush
My thinking is that it's different not because of the silo persay or even the peeling paint, but because the knocker was on the wrong side of the door. Jack went the opposite direction, and yet he still encountered the knocker
i think the silo was removed based on what the old lady said, “we don’t do that anymore”
@@heededshadow509 But when Jack went through the door he almost ran into a hanging piece of sheet metal, like the one that collapsed on Mr. Mays' friend. That's too specific of a detail to not be related, along with the red paint. I think I more possible that there was a door knocker on both sides
i love how the thumbnail is always them looking scared but in reality they sit around and laugh for 2 and a half hours
Id elevate that laughter to elated giggling, bordering on infantile giddiness.... and its the best part of the show lol!
Except Penpal lol
@@atticus999xpenpal was just a straight out tragedy. Such a genuinely sad story, not even that much horror in it.
@@Ahad-bj1cz the ending was extremely sad. But everything related to the presence of the weird man leading up to the ending was fucking terrifying. To me anyways lol I felt like I was being watched.
@@Ahad-bj1cz I personally find that story to be the most frightening. Stuff that I don't understand always creeped me out. Penpal focusing around a guy who has weirdest intentions was incredibly creepy. Forest sections, camera noises, balloon build up, murders, unseen photos on the phone and final reveal left me really scared.
For example something like Borrasca didnt scare me with its reveal, cause I at least understand intentions or the villains, while Penpal villain acted inhuman and his actions never made sense that even after reading the story I stayed horrified by it.
P.S. I read Borrasca, Penpal, 1999, Normal Corn for Normal People, Majoras Mask and The Showers myself, cause I heard how good those stories are. I love all of those stories, but if I had to choose the most scariest one from those, then its definitely Penpal.
Apologies for dwelling, I just really wanted to share my opinion.
The Jacoby story had me on the FLOOR laughing. That’s the type of story that people blackmail you over.
Yeah... all I'm gonna say is that I'm so glad I grew up in a time before social media was a thing.
The funny thing is it's the name of the lead singer of papa roach so kids coulda been messing with him saying he likes that guy lol
@@RandomPerson-nd2ey fair enough but even without the internet if kids/teenagers wanted to viciously bully someone they still would and did find ways to do it
@@arsena5209 Yeah, the internet is a new tool rather than a new method.
@@arsena5209as a weird girl who way too into DBZ in middle school before social media, this is true😂
Wendigoon: Oh guys! Im on meds! I am going to be silly!Please ignore it🙂!
*IMMEDIATELY* starts oversharing about how he was the sad nerdy kid in middle school
Not silly, just sad and in need of hugs
that's why we love him .
Hush. This is why we love him. All the best people were.
He's just like me fr
explains why he's ALT RIGHT
Meat: Jacoby
Wendi: now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
Jacobi
@@noises4978 Jacobi? Obi Wan Jacobi? Goes to another school.
I love the idea of Mr. Weller, the perfectly normal blood bank runner, and the ominous man who says foreboding things about Mr. Weller, because he’s afraid of needles or something.
@randomvideoboy1 what does this have to do with Mr. Weller, the character they made up for a joke in the middle of the video?
@randomvideoboy1 me when i hate fun and creativity
@@MorningDusk7734sir may i ask if there is some kind of creature in your well?
@@silkdust8069 yeah, a huge fucking skeleton thing that’s a metaphor for depression
The “Mr. Weller” derail was hilarious and I hope that they’re right that he becomes a part of the over arching lore in future episodes.
He really enjoys universal donors...
I can’t wait for Papa to animate this shit lmao I really hope he uses Isaiah’s voice too. 🤣
Mr Weller stole my blood while I slept, he even used a paw patrol band aid
We are gonna slowly see the green splash turn to more of a muddy brown for Mr.Weller’s bog blood clinic
I gave Mr Weller blood once, and now he calls me any time he needs more. I am a universal donor
the therapist: you need to talk about your trauma to work through it
the teacher: ok i’ll start telling it to children like a spooky story every halloween
the therapist: wait n-
@randomvideoboy1 ok?
@randomvideoboy1 you’re commenting this everywhere 💀
I actually had a math teacher in the 8th grade who did this 😂 He told us about encountering a demon at the bar, who turned their head sideways and morphed in to the devil. He was so serious too. I learned no math in that class. He also told us all the computers in town were linked to a super computer terminal. 😅
@randomvideoboy1 Guys I think he doesn't like this story
@@persephoneblack888
Lol
I can remember in the original "Where Are You, Scooby Doo?" cartoon, they would always refer to Scooby as a "ham". I have vivid memories of Velma saying "what a ham!" when Scooby would do a little skit or there was a comedic moment.
Where IS Scooby-Doo?!?
SCOOBY DOO!! I thought I must’ve heard it from Peanuts or something. I’m realizing now you must be right, I just remembered someone calling a dog a ham for playing pretend. Velma would call Scooby a ham for being scared, I assumed it was Lucy being mean to Snoopy or something. thank u for sharing lol
"My friendships were often fleeting, as were any relationships-" I thought he was oversharing again 😂
Yeah, I was half listening and was like I came here to laugh not to cry.
Whew 😅 I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking he was still telling his personal story, lol! I laughed so hard when I saw he actually reading the story! 😂
gnawing at the bars of my enclosure
fellow brittany broski x creepcast fan?
twin ❤
same
Throwing my head back in ecstasy, shooting ropes, screaming so loud it wakes the neighborhood at the sight of a new Creepcast.
This shit is everything to me, man.
I read that with the strongest British accent I could muster
I know two things.
1- the tunnel being so long and winding means it’s probably drawing out a shape or symbol underground.
2- Wendigoon on meds is a mood.
I was thinking a pentagram with a middle chamber for sacrifice
@@SJ-sp8fj They said the tunnel winds and turns, a pentagram-shaped tunnel would have sharp turns and straight corridors. There are also no intersections, and pentagrams have plenty. It's a nice idea but the tunnel is always described as a single narrow passageway, no intersections, no regularity. A squiggle, not a pictogram.
@@beckstheimpatient4135it's shaped like a squiggly worm
It spells Mr. Weller
@beckstheimpatient4135 That's under the assumption that firstly, the protagonist is in any state to notice intersections in the dark while crawling around with a broken knee and a head injury, and secondly that the pentagram actually completely meets with no walls between lines. If, ssay for example, the showers are designed to fill the tunnels with gore, there may be walls defining each section of pentagram to facilitate the filling.
But, you are probably right. I just like the idea of a slaughterhouse drain situation in the middle, like the shiny man in borrasca, that provides the sewerage system with gloopyness that fills up an underground pentagram with gore that ends in the summoning of some sort of goat-headed entity.
When he tried to start the story backup after his sad childhood and he said "My friendships were often fleeting" at 23:25 I genuinely thought he was still going lol.
I thought the same thing lol
"Let me tell you why Halloween is my favorite time of year."
"So anyway, the roof collapsed, and the rusty sheet sliced my friend's head open."
“And then he died, sorry left that part out the first time anyway goodnight” *dies*
Hunter when somone looks at his license plate: "Um, excuse me? My eyes are up here!"
"oh Hi, you got room in the back of your car? Sure I'll breathe into your rag." greatest thing said
That whole 20 minutes had me laughing so hard, my wife had to check on me
@@beautybardIt had me laughing so uncontrollably I had to pause it to not feel pain from laughter
1:59:35 one of the descriptions that the teacher gave in his original story was that the door they came up to with his friends had just recently been painted red. when the kid returns as an adult, he notes that the red paint is peeling now.
Also the narrator sees the peice of sheet metal that fell on the teachers friends
I love the moment when Jack says that Mr Mays died of liver failure and then says he's going to continue the story when he's sober. Such a great way to foreshadow.
He always turned the stories into his and then he ended up doing the same thing as Mr. Mays, drinking and sharing the story to get past it. Maybe it was the drugs, maybe it was the concussion. They know what they saw was there
"i watched dragon ball z, i had a lisp, and i made up a girlfriend"
That's a bingo somewhere.
Who didn’t?!
man, poor souther old people. just trying to start a conversation and suddenly hunter calls them a demon and runs away screaming " YOU'LL NEVER HAVE MY BLOOD!!".
It was definitely the same place as Mays. The ceiling had collapsed outside the door where his friend had his head cut open, and when MC rushed out the door, he "nearly slammed into a piece of the collapsed ceiling"
Yep, it's the same place, but it seems it was abandoned. There was only one kid in the basement as well when mays said there were 10-20.
Two things:
1) with the emphasis on the child's eyes, I wonder if those were the red eyes in the woods Mr Mays and his friends saw on the road during their trip
2) jack was down there for a LONG time, enough to wait a while for Steve, navigate the showers, and CRAWL for MILES. But when he gets out, Steve is only just returning from getting rope to the building. Definitely some time shenanigans
I was thinking that since his foot was injured and he was CRAWLING as well makes time slow down because you’re in so much pain in an uncomfortable position, so what could’ve been a five minute walk feels like a 5 mile crawl for Jack. But now that you mention it, maybe there was some time-warp involved? Like remember there was a time-travel-like shenanigan with the bermuda triangle where a plane went head-first into a storm and kind of warped through time to make them get to their destination 30 minutes earlier and there was something with their gas as well? I don’t remember the details, but what if it was some supernatural time-warp in the tunnel? Jack COULD have actually been crawling for miles in that tunnel, but when he gets out he’s only less than a hundred feet away from the barn?
Yes, time works differently in that farm, like black holes.
Y'all remember he was concussed right? Nothing he says after his fall can be taken at face value at all.
His 'forever' could have been all of 5 minutes for all we know
@@NatLaSAlso remember Jack is a storyteller that embellishes.
I read it as he’s taking Mr May’s journey in reverse as the door was red in mays story and the pice of the ceiling the protagonist encounters after opening the fire is the one that killed Mr mays friend. I think Steve noticed his friend wasn’t in the hole after getting the rope so he saw the direction the tumble went and made his way other there, just meeting up with our protagonist as he escapes
I definitely think the “children” are meant to be supernatural entities. Mr. Mays literally said “they took him, he didn’t make it” in reference to his dead friend, implying that said friend died because of the things in the showers. Not to mention the hatred in their eyes and whatnot. The voice whispering to Jack seemed like it was coaxing him to look into the kids’ eyes, as if that’s how they “take” you. I assume that Mr. Mays’ friend gave into the voice’s influence and did just that, essentially hypnotizing him into going with the children and staying in that evil place.
As for the setting, it is definitely the same place in both Jack’s and Mr. Mays’ experiences. Mr. Mays’ DID say the door was red, and mentioned the knocker as well. The metal sheet that injured his friend was still there for Jack too. The paint being chipped and the silo being gone/the cellar door being overgrown are just meant to show that a lot of time has passed.
Also, I think the disconnected nature of the elements of the showers is purposeful. I believe the showers is meant to be *literally* Hell leaking out onto the earth, hinted at by Mr. Mays’ line at the bar. It’s uncanny, smells of death, has no perceivable real world use, and instills humans with dread just by entering. It’s pure evil. Maybe the woman at the gas station is one of the few survivors of a past attempt to destroy the showers, but they failed and lots of people died/were “taken”. Her generation gave up and chose to look the other way, too scared to fight it or even talk about it, so it grew into obscurity. That’s how I interpreted it, at least.
Yeah but I think the silo not being there is because they entered from the other side of the tunnel so the building and surroundings would be different, he crawls back to the other side, the side with the wooden barn door with the silo outside but he didn't see it because he was injured af. Thats what I think is missing from your otherwise spot on assessment.
Ooooo
I like this one
Its a gate to hell itself, but all you can do is try to keep it shut so the demonic Spawn won't get out
there are 5 parts to the showers and it answers a lot of questions
@@mokaPCPexcept Jack said he ran around looking for signs of the silo ever being there and no way the building is big enough to hide a silo
The kids could have just have a general hatred in their eyes from mistreatment. Not saying you're wrong but the story is too ambiguous to really be about anything, I honestly don't think the writer even knew, at least at the time, just wanted a story full of spooky things for vibes and feels, not meaningful narrative. And mr Mays never describes what happens. Maybe they physically took his friend (he doesn't say) maybe Mays had to leave him and because he never saw his friend assumed it was the people there (only the kids are ever described) not the friend bleeding out and dying from lack of care and mays convinced himself it was more concrete out of guilt and preserving his sanity
Wendi saying “my friendships were often fleeting” after listing his childhood tragedies had me thinkin he was gearing back up into the second half 😂
He’s honestly so real
Isaiah just trauma dumping high on fentanyl is just so cute to me i love it
Tbf that's something I would do, high or not.
I'm making a list of things Hunter doesn't trust in stories;
* Kids
* Adults around kids
* Moms of the kids/narrator
* New Characters
* Isaiah
* Showers
* Stairs
* Basements(i get this one)
* Police (i get this one too)
* The narrator
* The reader
* Wendigoon
Edit: Add more please!
I love that you have Isaiah and Wendigoon
dads too
And that one box that fell in 1999
Mr wellers
The word ham
I think the voice at the end was his teacher's spirit. He needed someone to believe what he saw and wanted Jack to tell him he saw the same thing. When Jack panicked, it was an implied admission that he saw something dangerous. So when the voice said ''relax for a second, I'll get it" it was him opening the lock for Jack. This let's the teacher Rest In Peace as he was haunted by not only not having anyone believe him, but he saved his student in a way he couldnt save his friend.
OH MY GOD THATS SUCH A GOOD TAKE
the voice even said "tell me what you see", and if asking to get jack to admit he's right
we have a genius here
The image of Fentagoon getting picked up and put in a trashcan like its nothing has me dying 😂😂😂
Why did I imagined him with the same face on a child's body and a ridiculously oversized backpack(?)
this is iceberg boy 2
ik this is 4 months old now but i actually never listened to this episode yet, but “fentagoon” is TAKING ME OUT
@@nora687 same lol 😂😂😂
the bickering really does it for me honestly jahhkajdhsla i played my dad an episode on a road trip n he got so annoyed he was like "CAN THEY JUST READ THE DAMN STORY?" n i was like ....... but sir the goofy guys having fun is where its at
Ahaha, I think my dad would’ve been the same way… He HATED when my sibling and I would pause movies to squeal and rant over the story! Thank you for your comment, it reminded me of my dad who passed away this time last year and it’s the first time I’ve been able to relate this to someone without crying. He was a really amazing dude and I just miss him, so, again, thank you so much and whole-heartedly, you made my day!
@@HavianElamay he rest in peace
Figures that Reddit would consider a story called “The Showers” to be the scariest story of the year
@randomvideoboy1bro u left this comment twice stfu it’s a fine story they who wrote it isn’t a New York Times best seller but it’s a fine short story
I mean, I kind of agree. It's not a very great story, but you seem a bit too angry... @randomvideoboy1
@@Poooppoop22they’ve left it under every comment actually
Actually I think it's just dirty water all along. I think the story would be the best if in the end it would turn out that there were no supernatural at all just an abandoned human traficking rig with insane children left alone in the dark.
@randomvideoboy1 I really liked the sequel...
In case you guys didn't know, the author actually wrote a sequel to The Showers. I would really love for you guys to cover it sometime, I think it does a fantastic job of exploring what the showers actually are and it has some really strong themes that work off of the first story. Loving the podcast guys!
Edit: I know they mentioned there was a sequel later on. I posted my comment right after they finished the story and realized they weren't going to cover it. I still hope they will read it sometime, but I can understand if they're ready to read something else.
I love this story and was disspointed they didnt cover the next part. I hope they get back to it.
@@flygxg1908I’m still hoping they read borr part 5.
Thank you I was questioning my sanity at the end thinking "Wait did I just hallucinate a quarter of this story"
This makes more sense, I felt like it didn't end, just stopped 😅
The sequel is treated with more disdain by fans of the original than Borrasca V is by fans of Borrasca for a reason. Borrasca V is an average story that's subpar in comparison to I-IV; the sequel to The Showers is just flat-out bad. It feels far more like fanfic than the same author trying to write an actual sequel.
As for "exploring what the showers actually are": It feels as though the story is written intentionally to leave the reader/listener in the dark about it. The sequel feels like it attempts to force some answer, _any_ answer, for readers/listen who are too belligerent to accept an ending where someone goes "Okay, this is too messed up, I don't care about my curiosity, I'm leaving this the hell alone." (Honestly, it feels like it was made over-the-top intentionally bad to scorn these people. but that may be me projecting.)
The conversation between Wendigoon and Papa Meat about the conversations that start from noticing someone’s license plate is a perfect example of the Extrovert Friend and the Introvert Friend, and I think it’s so funny and wholesome.
Which is funny because on cream crew he’s described as the extrovert of the group. Wendigoon just has that natural southern hospitality and friendliness in his genes I guess.
Lmao more like extrovert friend and paranoid schizophrenic friend
@@Trained_Duck Yeah. That rant he did was less introverted and more anti-social.
thats not really an introvert vs extrovert thing, its just not wanting to be friendly with complete strangers or being against small talk. im extroverted but i hate small talk lmao.
I saw this story almost as a what if Borrasca never got exposed and eventually just stopped running. This barn in the middle of nowhere originally seen by Mr.Mays in his younger years, is almost a “stable” when it was possibly up and running. I think the demonic noises he hears that are later eluded to being similar to jack screaming, are the screams of the victims stuck there at the time he had found it. the showers possibly being something that maybe the victims were forced to use for unknown yet reasons that can be imagined, and that over the years the pipes have eroded and tainted the water, changing the color and thickness. It even makes sense that whoever would be holding people there would allow the path leading to it to overgrow and almost hide in plain sight, the general desolation of the Nebraska fields already giving off an unsettling vibe it would make sense that a path of overgrown trees would look like hands grabbing at you, and possibly the light breaking through the trees giving the illusion of thousands of eyes watching. By the time jack finds it whatever operations were there have been shut down for the most part, but not entirely. I think that some of the victims were left down there for dead, My guess is, this isn’t like borrasca in the sense of the depravity of the story (tho it’s possible, things like that are only ever eluded to for the sake of my theory), I believe it is something along the lines of a cult that got discovered, or possibly a trafficking ring. I don’t believe the child actually had ill intentions, I think the child may have been asking for help, but didn’t know how because it had spent its entire life down there, possibly the parents of the child being victims of this place, the child a heartbreaking creation from the depths of this hell. I think Mr mays found the entrance that was created by the perpetrators of who created this place and that jack stumbled across the entrance meant for the victims. Either theory also makes sense as to why the locals don’t want to talk about anything relating to it, “no one around here knows anything about that anymore”. Anymore definitely means she knew something or someone relating to it and just wants to forget about it. I also believe that it’s possible that the child saw jack in his scared state went up and investigated him, and then actually was the one to open the door for him, the child possibly staying behind because they had never been outside before and was scared himself, and I believe that when jack heard his friend talking from behind the door, it was just a hallucination brought on by his concussion and extreme fear in that moment. In my mind this story lends itself so perfectly to being something that is actually grounded in reality that is so wild it almost feels like something evil or magical is going on
P.s I’ve done no research on this story so I could be dead wrong, this is just my interpretation
Also love you guys and the pod keep up the amazing content!
I agree with this since I felt the story was too grounded to be supernatural. Maybe the meat from the showers was food for the kids? That seems more likely than a demon being born out of it.
The "child" in the story is probably not actually human. Tapetum lucidum is the term for the membrane that reflects light in animal eyes, and humans don't have it. So, whatever it was, it likely wasn't a person at all.
Thank you, your comment literally made a chill run down my spine
They aren't human
They only LOOK like human, Human children
And that's more unsettling then just their appearances
Oh wow, yeah, that is great information i am kinda regretting to know now. This is great!
If I remember my basic biology from high school right I think humans do have a similar structure, it’s what causes eyes to turn red in flash photos sometimes
Could be forcing people to reproduce under ground until they adapt over time ? Like some weird human experiment stuff
imagine being someone who saw 7th grade isaiah and would pick him up and put him in a trash can only to see him years later talk about you on a horror podcast
Proven right😂
When Wendigoon tries to one up Hunters dark humor, and immediately Hunter just hits him with something so out of pocket he just bursts out laughing is one of the most genuine "polar opposites attract" friendships in action, its so authentic and organic
Thank you guys, I haven’t had a good laugh in awhile, but you saying “well he’s been taking photos of you for the past while, check his phone check his phone” gave me such a good hard laugh that I just haven’t had in awhile
Hunter dropping the Robert E Lee thing and saying another teacher cried at Gone with the Wind just set my "Missouri is not the South" argument back 50 years.
I mean as someone from Missouri you trying to argue Missouri ISNT basically part of the south is kinda batshit to me (at least southern Missouri)
As a southern Missourian, at least half of Missouri is definitely part of the south, I can definitely see Northern Missouri being Midwest.
I mean Missouri was a slave state, and had its history in the civil war
as someone from georgia, i’ve never heard anyone dare try to claim fuckin missouri is part of the south😭that’s batshit to me
Missouri is both Midwestern and Southern despite the fact that neither the Midwest nor the South want anything to do with it.
When the story mentioned that there were no cobwebs in the building, that immediately triggered the thought that the lady was lying when she said “we don’t do that anymore”
or the place is so currupted even the spiders go 'hell nah I aint gonna live there'
@arsena5209 yeah cause, they keep talking about that putrid smell and those puddles of disgusting liquid but there's not one fly?? Not even a singular cockroach? Something is amiss
@@NatLaS It was mentioned that there seemed to be a perimeter of dead grass around the place. I also wonder about that dead rabbit...
@@user-cs7fg5eq9rand the dead tree!
@@user-cs7fg5eq9r That was my first thought too. That's the one thing that seems overtly supernatural
I think at the very end where that voice says, “I’ll take care of it, just rest a second”
I like to think that’s somehow the spirit of maybe his teacher or his teacher’s lost friend unlocking the door
I was thinking that too at first. Like whichever one it was wanted confirmation that what they saw was really there from an outside source and this was his only chance
oooo yeah makes sense, creepy af tho
Pointing out that when Mays was down there with a group there were multiple children. When Jack was down there by himself there was only one child.
As a native born and raised Okie I absolutely love the way Papa described the eeriness of the empty Midwest and comparing it to the ocean. There is something peaceful, but also very off putting and even alarming about the countryside’s vast emptiness. It feels like an absence that’s so strong it becomes a presence of its own.
As someone born and raised in New Zealand, where you’re never far from valleys, hills, mountains and oceans - the idea of flat plains stretching beyond the horizon is so harrowing.
I moved around a lot in my life but was mostly raised partially in kansas and partially in south carolina. the landscapes AND the people are so different it's uncanny, but because I've been around both my whole life I completely understand the imagery of the huge flat open empty fields, the trees reaching out to grab the car, and both sides of the license plate argument.
If I hear one more person say "haha you're not in kansas anymore huh?" at any point in my life I will scream, and I hate talking/being talked to but I STILL prefer polite small-talk to everyone seeming to ignore my existence other than a slight expressionless glance or seemingly suspecting me of something for no reason.
Overall I DO prefer when everyone just keeps to themselves, but walking by without a smile or a nod just comes off as impolite, especially if I had just mustered up the courage to make eye contact and smile first just to be nice, it's always been a bit hard for me to do
It’s so true too, the fields can be creepy if you think about it for too long
_absence so strong it becomes a presence of its own_ is such a good way to describe the feel of it!!
Let me tell you all about the horrible Southwest USA!!
Seeing the title “The Showers” makes me immediately think of 2 possible ways this could go and I don’t know which is better
Oh it's good
im assuming one of them is 18 cowboys?
@@SlickussoFellow Jew? 👀
The waiting is done!!!
@@chickensalad3535subhuman
I'm a 60 yrs old lady, my daughter turned me on to Wendigo 1st and then she hooked me up with Papa Meat! I friggin love you 2!!! I had to commute to work in the early morning hours & the drive was on Dark Scary Road in Arizona! I would listen to Coast to Coast! It was so cool!
That's so lovely! You live in Arizona? One of the stories Wendigoon and Papa Meat read on this channel, "The Left Right Game," takes place there. Have you watched those videos yet? If not, I bet you'd love it :)
@@bananabrain364 Cool & Thanks, I'll check it out!
The way you capitalized Dark Scary Road makes me wonder if someone legitimately named a road that or if you just mean A dark scary road
@@Pragabond It was a dark scary road! It was a 2 lane Hwy. My job started at 4 AM & It took about 1 hour to get there on time! So I've had a lot of weird critters jumping in front of my head lights! But I looked forward to the drive because of Coast To Coast!!
@leslie-tc2po Fellow Arizonan, those dark desert roads can be spooky for sure! Glad you enjoy the content it's always neat to see people of older generations enjoying internet stuff like this. A lot of older people I know just think it's weird. Hahaha
Wendigoon being a weird lanky kid in 7th grade is so funny to me because that glowup must have been shocking
In my opinion, It has something to do with a time loop-type thing. I think this is shown with the ending line of him talking about getting another drink, like his English teacher. He also became an English teacher, like his English teacher, and told the stories to his students. I feel like it’s also a metaphor for how urban legends get told and passed down, with the story being slightly different every time, “like a game of telephone” like the author themself says. That’s why there’s so many pieces that don’t quite fit in, since as a story gets passed down over time, it changes and some pieces get lost and don’t make as much sense when compared to one another. Maybe I’m thinking too far deep into it but I found this story to be very metaphorical and not taken at face value.
"It's like poetry, they rhyme."
Yes. I think they moved past the 'time loop' theory too quickly, and that they brushed over the importance of the narrator being both unreliable and relaying an urban legend. if you try and find answers to the showers and the kids, ofc youre going to be disappointed, but if you take it as the hauntings of urban legends themselves its really neat.
That would make the mention of jacks dog like whimpers make a lot more sense(not that they don’t make sense regardless lol). Kind of like in the left right game maybe the teacher heard his future student. Also like Wendi said what if it try’s to get you to join them so it wants you to look into the eyes of the children to test your will and see how controllable you are. and if you don’t pass it looks you in the eyes and puts something in your brain to send more potential members through you telling the story thus getting another curious person to come. Just a stretch lol but very good story.
YES!! Thats what I thought was happening when jack said he sounded like a dog.
This actually makes sense holy shit
The voice he heard before being let out almost sounded like something a therapist says to you to get you to remember a traumatic experience.
That makes so much sense! That would mean that all of the story is a therapy conversation, as mister Maze said "You would think this wouldn't fauck me up?"
That was what I was expecting when the story ended, I really thought he was gonna wake up on a couch during a therapy session - I do like the idea of it bein mr mayes like a lot of commenters have been sayin
Hunter's story about his teacher crying during Gone with the Wind and everyone in class laughing at her right after Isaiah's heartfelt talk about a teacher that had a huge impact on him was perfect comedy lol Polar opposite stories yet somehow both just as relatable.
We really had a 20 minute intermission while Hunter and Isaiah did their best Col. Sanders impersonations
Wendigoon talking about being homeschooled and having religious parents is too relatable. My terrifying moment was when a guy said he would tell my mom I played Guitar Hero at a friend's house.
You're not alone, Wendigoon. You're not alone.
Certified Jacobi moment
It’s interesting the amount of variety in homeschool families. I was homeschooled and my folks are very religious but their rules were pretty lax. Basically be home by dark and no r rated movies until you’re a teen lol. But then I knew another family who were secular and homeschooled for anti-gov reasons, and they had a pretty strict diet and rules against a lot of popular culture stuff.
@@mere7583 I feel bad for the kids in that family 😅 of course spoiling your kids isn't a good thing but there's a difference between that and being paranoid of everything
@@arsena5209 Yeah, I think there was good and bad in it. Like they weren't allowed to consume any pro-military movies/tv shows, which back then (pretty soon after 9/11) seemed weird but I kinda get now.
Just putting in my two cents that it is the same tunnel, Mr Mays had mentioned that the door looked freshly painted red, so now the door is old and the paint is flaking; but also as Jack scrambles out said door he nearly hits his head on the same metal sheet that had come loose and knocked out Mr Mays’s friend.
Love that he ended up finding the showers from the other direction though, that was really fun!
lmao I was thinking the same thing when Meat was saying the door wasn't red before and screaming in my mind that they should look back at the actual text when discussing it at the end because they keep forgetting the shit they read in the same story 😂
THANK you, I was looking for this comment
I was getting so frustrated knowing it was red!!
THANK YOU,,, I was gaslighting myself so hard like " the door WAS explicitly mentioned as being freshly painted red, right???? the ceiling DID collapse on the friend????" I passed out asleep a little bit after that part and it got to where I was questioning if I'd dreamed or hallucinated the explicit multiple connections to the original story
In Australia, men over 40 start conversations all the time. I met someone at the street crossing and found out they had just recovered from a stroke.
If I ever see Hunter in public I am 100% going to walk up to him and just say "I've been watching you, you look like you can control fire." and walk away without explaination.
Not nice. It is probably a fat joke.
The "are you from new york? cause youre acting like a yankee" had me losing it cause I was thinking the same thing
“There’s an active serial killer in northern Nevada” is an amazing story from Nosleep. That one should definitely be checked out and analyzed.
Sounds interesting.
@randomvideoboy1I take it you’re not a fan?
@@themoocow7718 it is pretty gripping I’m from Western Utah so right next to where the story takes place adds an extra layer of spooky.
Why not south nevada
@@Mannnnnnnn I’d assume because the areas around the highways in Southern Nevada are a lot more populated so a serial killer couldn’t be active for long without getting caught.
1:16:27 "Mr. Wellers don't like it when people say his name down by the bog, city boy." Is one of the funniest lines I've heard all year 😅
Then when you DO say Mr Wellers down by the bog he just says something like "Please call me Chuck, Mr Wellers was my father"
Wrong timestamp
But true
@@moonriverinc7896 I was an hour early, thank Wellers for the ability to edit
@@Teruko666 shoutout Mr Wellers fr fr
I was your 420th like so I think we both deserve some kind of reward
I love that this is a horror podcast, but always contains some of the best genuine comedic moments on the internet.
Watching Hunter's hair dry throughout this was a thing on its own XD
I love watching curls dry lol, glad I’m not the only one who noticed
He looked just like Rosanne Barr. Really got me going.
“A ham” is more of Midwest/southwest term for a kid who is very charismatic and socially adept
It's more someone who loves attention
I live in the Midwest and I have NEVER heard that term.
Another Midwestern here, I haven’t heard the term in AGES but as a kid my older relatives used it to describe some of my cousins
my mom always called me a ham and we are from california
Midwest for about a decade now. My mom (born and raised here) calls my son a ham. 😂 Other than that, I've also never heard that, but it's cool to know. Thank you, fellow viewer.
I love how they completely ignore the teacher saying that the guy who died was dragged away
As soon as he mentioned hearing dragging, I thought about that too. With that said, the time parallel theory seems the most accurate.
@@lamiyahjackson5686okey, the idea of a ritual/sacred ground that you can access from different doors and points in time, but it's fixed in a continuous moment (it's own time outside of our reality's) is super cool
@randomvideoboy1and yet people enjoy it
@randomvideoboy1 "I hate having to think" is basically what you just said. The sequel sucks BECAUSE he explains shit in it. Good horror is when you don't explain the monster or the scary thing, because what an individual thinks it is is 10x more scary then any sort of explanation.
@@emersonawesome3778 ngl I was disappointed with it, it's just a nothing sandwich
Story idea, A maintenance man that specializes on renovating haunted houses and figuring out how to adjust or appease things with the spirit in mind to make stuff work again.
I love this idea. Is it OK if I use it as a writing prompt?
@@justcommoncurt For sure. It would have been a dead end for me. So you have my blessing. I'll love yo see what you birth from it.
It's 2 am I'm stealing this idea and will not provide credit, thanks boss
For Mr. Mays' story, if you found an underground room full of dirty, malnourished children, wouldn't you assume they'd been kidnapped or were being held down there? Yet, Mr. Mays was so terrified of these children that he even closed the door to keep them in that room. And when he supposedly talked to the police, he only wanted back the body of his friend, he didn't seem worried about the children at all.
When Jack encounters one, he describes the hatred in their eyes and how he feels like they want to hurt him. Even though this child is so weak and malnourished they can barely even crawl, he still fears for his life. He repeats what Mr. Mays' did by closing the cellar door to stop the child from getting out. Although he doesn't open his eyes until the door is closed, so it is possible the child got out without him knowing.
This all seems to suggest that the children aren't "normal" children because of the intense fear they instill in both Mr. Mays and Jack.
The voice whispering to him through the cellar door implies that someone else is aware of/running this whole operation and seems to want to know what Jack thinks of the children. We could speculate that this person talking to Jack was Mr. Mays' friend whose body was never recovered, but I think that's unlikely. This person might be someone involved in "creating" these children so to speak as some sort of experiment. Since this person was specifically whispering outside the cellar door, that implies it was a real person who didn't want to be heard by Steve, not a supernatural entity.
The old woman that Jack and Steve spoke to essentially said "people don't deal with that sort of business anymore, that was a long time ago" which suggests this was some sort of operation that people knew about decades ago. The reason other people in town might not have known about it may be because it ended (or was supposed to) so many years ago.
I do wonder if the hatred the child seemed to show wasn't for Jack, but for the light he was carrying. At the end, the child is directly in his face, but seemingly doesn't touch him. Then, the flashlight is outside the cellar door as if the child put it there. It's also interesting how, in Mr. Mays' story, the lightbulbs burst before the door is knocked open, as if the children didn't want to see the light. They didn't follow them into the tunnel either as far as we know.
Since Jack was able to open the red door from inside the room, there's nothing really keeping the children in that room. They would have been able to go out into the tunnel if they wanted, although they might not have been able to get out the cellar door. Crawling through the tunnels would have been difficult since the children were so malnourished, but as we saw in Jack's case, one of them did crawl all the way there.
Of course, like Hunter and Isaiah were saying, we don't know how much thought the author actually put into all this, or if it was more of a "wouldn't that be a scary concept" kind of thing.
I honestly think they're just demon kids and the author was fixated on the le spooky child meme, thought of a location to put them in, then didn't go much further. Isaiah's invitation to worship theory is probably the best answer you can graft into the story, and makes the story a lot more interesting because it implies things about the missing friend maybe going cultic, and the neutral nature of a seemingly malevolent entity if - fairly speaking, after a show of force - it's willing to let you go if you don't show interest. Personally I think it was more of a Medusa scenario, ghost kid needs to be seen to hurt you, and was lulling him into opening his eyes - with the door opening being a sort of Act Of God Moment as is often seen in stories without Chekhov's Ammo, let alone Chekhov's Gun, and that tying those events together is probably not true to the author's intention but is better than their actual idea.
@@Wolf_ManJack Ooooh. Interesting. The author did create a work that would be heavily altered by other storytellers. It's a smart move. Tell a story, invite the audience to finish it/make it more. But admit up front that your story may be embellished to begin with.
The silo was a spaceship of aliens conducting experiments on child captives. The children are full of hatred and suspicion after years of mistreatment. The teacher and the main character were just scared because they're selfish wimps that did nothing in the moment and didn't return with rescue or help. But the real meaning behind the story is the author just threw in some spooky stuff with a vague story and said "you connect them" when there was never really thought behind it
I mean, If you, in the middle of nowhere, in a desolate abandoned place, went into a random cellar and just randomly saw dozens of identical zombie like children surrounded by darkness just standing around, would you seriously consider staying there and asking around, for all you know it could've been some secret cannibal tribe or something. Although I agree the teacher guy definitely could've been a bit more concerned about them as well, but running would've been my first instinct, at least wait to revisit it at daytime with some proper company and prep I guess. But I do feel like the police wouldn't have been helpful because at least from the gas station lady, the town seems to know what's been going on so they could've been in on it. Unfortunately we'll never really know, the story definitely felt a bit short, but I really liked it.
All of these are really good points to consider! Thanks for putting them down so succinctly!
Idk what it is but post-shower Hunter looks like he can control fire.
He kind of looks like markiplier too, huh
I was thinking the same thing
Little hunter Barrymore
The part where Hunter was continuing his creole impression and Isaiah was telling him to stop had me dying
I like how they created their own creepy pasta on accident just by making fun of Isaiah being friendly.
I want to point out, the way he was throwing up in fear could also be partly his concussion.
Thank you guys for showing the book cover I designed for Penpal! 6:40
It is so surreal seeing something I did for class getting traction like it did.
For anybody interested there is a second image that shows off more of the cover art such as the inside flaps with the completed text blurbs and back cover of the book on the sub reddit.
For those asking where to see the pictures it's on the Creep Cast subreddit under the fan art tag. (It's not letting me reply to people right now for some reason)
You did an amazing job on the artwork! Where can I find the other images of it?
IT LOOKS SO FIREEEEEEEEEEEE
@@heidihawes8422You can find it on the subreddit under the fan art tag. Not sure why my replies keep on disappearing.
It looks so good!
@@heidihawes8422 The subreddit under the fan art tag.
Creep Cast is like the modern-day book club I've always wanted as a teen.
"don't hold it against me unless it's funny."
You guys are amazing.
Hunter, you rock that expeshilly. It used to drive me nuts, but now i anomonously love it
Hunter freaking out over the most common and generic gas station interaction is so funny to me, at least in VA where I'm from this is seen as like the default polite and friendly interaction with someone who's from super far away
Up here in PA it's the same. Guess people from Missouri weren't taught how to have manners.
@@mgeiger2341 He's ONE guy from Missouri chill dude. Also no part of it sounds like a lack of manners just a really peculiar stance on small talk
Its actually incredibly common here too which is what makes it so funny that he's so completely defensive about someone making normal small talk and then thinking oh yeah everyone will agree with me in the comments. No part of living in Missouri should give you that impression Hunter are you ALSO high?
@@Pragabond 1. It's very rude to shout.
2. It's also very rude to assume one is intoxicated.
3. The tone was clearly sarcastic.
4. Knotting ones knickers is very counterproductive. Also very painful, don't do that.
Does that answer your qualms Little Boy Blue?
@@mgeiger2341man you have the most unbearable vernacular
Man this is the first time I've watched creep cast but the man on the right looks like he can control fire
Is that prince zuko?
Cant help but hurting my sides LAUGHING everytime some1 brings up the control fire thinggg😭😭😭
O my fucking gosh lol
Fucking awsome
Huh?
I really like Wendigoon's line of thought near the end.
I believe that the girl may be the *actual vessel* for whatever is summoned. It may not even be a demonic entity per say.
"What do you see (what do i look like to you?"
"I'll get it." *reaches over/through Jack to unlock the door. It is at this moment all he can see is hair.
Huh. You may be right.
I fell asleep in the first few minutes of this one. Woke up at the end and have no idea what happened so I am rewatching it. I had a never-ending dream to this one where I couldn't turn this episode off. I tried to ask google to turn it off but I couldn't talk or scream or anything. My childhood cat was sitting on my chair, was lovely to see her again. I started taking batteries out of things, i broke my phone in half, unplugged my pc but nothing stopped you guys from talking. I was told I yelled weird shit in my sleep and woke up mid "yell". 10/10 nap guys, thank you.
I think it’s worth note that something strange happens in both stories once an injury happens. It’s only a tunnel, until Maze’s friend got hit in the head, or when Jack dislocated his leg. It’s like pain brought out the children and the showers. It’s the key to it potentially
Yooo I’m good pals with Dylan the writer. I’m sure he’d enjoy talking to you guys.
The reason the book is currently out of stock is because he’s working on a new edition with different cover artwork. He’s told me that hopefully that edition should be out soon.
I really hope it comes out soon because I’ve been wanting a copy for soooo long!
Would certainly be good timing to release it ASAP
Am I correct in thinking theres more to this story?
@@firefly9838 idk why or how but I know there’s more to this story with Jack’s girlfriend and all but considering that Wendi and Hunter didn’t cover it, I’m confused
The detail the MC added about the hanging piece of sheet metal in the tunnel convinced me it was in fact the same place as the Teacher's story. The one that knocked the friend out and cut his forehead open. Seems to me the silo being removed is a hint towards the town trying to cover up the past
It’s definitely the same place. It had the same red door and everything.
I think the silo was on the side of the tunnel with the cellar door. To me, it seems like the MC entered the same tunnel, but from the other side of the red door.
The hollow "fake floor" that the MC fell through could be the where the silo used to be. I was sure the place they found sounded larger than originally described. Could have built over it.
Yea I don’t think that’s debated or needs convincing, it is definitely the same place that’s why those obvious parts were added.
Now stuff like the purpose/what went down there, Who the beings there were (ghosts, demons, etc), and everything else is all deliciously hard to decipher!
@@dailynoob_d5978shearing sheds have elevated wooden flooring so sheep wee and poop falls through.
It’s been 7 years since I last read this story. I was 9 when I last read this story and completely forgotten about it’s existence only having small memories to the classroom being decorated in Halloween decorations and the teacher getting ready to tell a story. Once I heard the red door I was like “Ohhhh I read this before”. Cool to get some nostalgia and fun from Creepcast. I believe I originally listened to this story on the No Sleep podcast or somewhere on TH-cam.
BABE WAKE UP, NEW CREEP CAST JUST DROPPED WITH PAPA MEAT AND ICEBERG BOI
MEAT MAN AND ICEBERG BOY! THE NEWEST DYNAMIC DUO! :u
*insert comic cover here*
My day is literally made whenever a Creepcast drops
@@Arkonu I've just watched a particular episode of Mythbusters... "Meat Man" does not conjure up pleasant feelings.
Are you referring to Jacolby's boyfriend?
😂 Damn you did Wendigoon dirty
New editing is so WILD, I really enjoy the background sounds even if they are infrequent because it makes the story feel more impactful and immersive. The metal sliding door after the chain gave me the deepest sense of dread a youtube video ever could and it has me so excited.
The breathing sound scared the shit out of me
The hollow bang! I was like "that's EXACTLY what it would have sounded like".
@@ezra8129 right?? Had me edge of my seat, like "did this story have footage with it?"
Creepcast has genuinely become one of my favorite podcasts as of late!!! Excited to see where this story goes. So far it seems really interesting.
Fr tho, it’s my #1 favorite podcast now. Legit one of the biggest highlights of my weekend 🤣
100%
I would never have expected Wendigoon and Papa Meat reading creepy pasta to be one of my favorite things to listen to but here we are.
@@TheCarltonator definitely. And the episodes are extremely high quality with how often they come out too
Same, supermegacast ending has shot this one up for me, though, there is this cool brand new up-and-coming podcast called supermegashow..
The yahoo answers link works in the wayback machine. Someone was asking about "The Showers" in 2010, one of the replies to the question was "I cant be exactly sure, but I just heard about it today and from what I have heard from a person that I trust completely, is that it is located in a barn with a hedge along the road in front of it, by my calculations it should be within 50-100 miles of Hastings itself in any given direction. but I was also told by this person not to dig for details......I know that most people think that it's a myth but the complete conviction with which this person told me the details was almost undeniable. I cant be sure of the exact circumstances of what happened there and if its still going on today, but I'm still researching and wont stop until I get a definitive answer."
This is two years before this creepypasta came out.