Modifying a Pilatus PC-12 - $950k Engine Swap! | Perry the Pilatypus
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Mark and Mike begin the process of modifying Perry the Pilatus. In this episode they begin the engine swap.
Additional videos will be released in coming weeks on Mark’s channel.
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I appreciate Mark's rant on screws. Very true and applies across many industries
YES - as an auto mechanic, I agree 200%! One of my biggest pet peeves was the reuse of totaled fasteners. You can waste the entire billable job time on ONE stupid fastener! 😵
No joke. Especially since they’re repeat customers and the damn thing gets inspected annually, it benefits the techs to replace those screws for the next time they work on it.
Many fasteners only used once on removal must be replaced.
I'm not totally on board with that but at least every other time.
@@chauvinemmons On modern automotive engines, most of the time the cylinder head bolts are TTY (Torque To Yield), and can only be used ONCE. When you torque them to spec, they stretch to just a hair below their breaking point. Reusing them is a great way to ruin your week, lol.
Screws are cheap! Reputation is not. Replace the screws as a pro style service.
Your parents must be so proud to have raised 2 wonderful men. Y'all are amazing.
My wife gave me two sets of twins, I hope they are as successful as these guys. There does seem to be something to working in a team where you are that closely in sync with the other person.
I believe they have 6 bothers/sisters
@@TNels i believe that to be true
My twins learned to cooperate before they could talk , unfortunately it was one distracted me while the other took my wallet out of my back pocket 😃🤣 true story !
love the camera person who's spinning in the chair in thr background!!! love it!
The pc12 is my favorite plane, I’m so excited for this build
I would love to see Mark do more airplane building videos. I understand he’s busy with the business, but damn! 😅
👍👍
Watch the problem of the stall, The stick pusher, landing on a soft field, performing a full stall landing, will push the nose into the ground , if disconnected, the left wing will drop first, sharply.
Test this at altitude. Be sure you have control of the stall process! 🔥
The stall problem is reduced when olny part flaps are set, remember full flaps is the critical configuration
Watch blancolirio Mesquite incident !
[ Swiss aerodynamicist here, familiar with the STC process]
When I had my 1999 Station air T206H I got the garmin auto pilot G500, and loved it. Hope to have another soon
This channel is so underrated! Love the Patey bros!
I think Mike should do a top 10 reasons why he prefers Garmin over other companies. I'm curious to know why he likes them so so much compared to other options.
They’re very good.
What other options? Not many for certified. It's a Garmin world out there
Sponsorship is why.
they sponsor him...
Way fewer steps with the gamin touch than with the Apex. Garmin is much more intuitive.
I always thought Mark was the serious one. I was cracking up!
Yeah he really relaxed into it quickly, very cool.
Well Mark, I definitely think you are the comic relief between you two. This is shaping up to be a brilliant conversion and retrofit.
Mark, as a weight engineer for a large airplane manufacturer, you an engineer after my own heart!! Every ounce counts. And there is no reason for weight growth over time. Absolutely fantastic!
Mike and Mark Patey are awesome, keep up the good work! hope to see Draco-X soon!
and congrats on 300k subscribers!
Im wondering if thats where the old pilatus engine is going
@@Trophyman does it have more power? I'm pretty sure, in a previous video, he had Draco's engine rebuilt.
Another worthwhile face lift and a new heart for the beast. Gotta Love it! Feed us more, more often!!
the easiest way to tell Mike and Mark apart is by their demeanor and volume.
These are 2 twins I've never had a problem telling apart! It's the voice. Close your eyes and you'll still know who's talking.
The Patey twins share much but their skill sets are both complementary and overlapping. Literally a pair to beat a Full House!
2 of my best friends from the old neighborhood are twins. I learned really young to notice the subtle differences, so now that I'm much older, I can ALMOST always tell twins apart from each other. My biggest issue is remembering names. I know Mike and Mark from the years seeing them on TH-cam, but for people I just meet, I'm TERRIBLE with names, twins or not. It's embarrassing! Same with names of streets, newer cars, newer parts, etc.. Must've been the part of the brain affected by too much fun in the 80's, lol. 😁
I am so happy to see the other brother involved. You can finally see where Mark steps in and is just an amazing support system and awesome banter between these two. Thank you both for sharing and I can’t wait to see more.
What a clean and neat interior with a few stripped screws in the floor...I used to be an aircraft mechanic in the 1970's, working on interior mx and cargo conversions on DC-8's and genl mx on C-130's. One of the most pleasant jobs ever is pulling literally thousands of crews up from the floor panels of a C-130 so they could all be pulled up for cleaning and inspection. The aircraft has been hauling every type of cargo from oil drilling equip to fresh fish, many of whom have fallen out of the bins and now reside rotting in the sidewall of the wall panels. Many of the screws are stripped and or filled with gunk so that they won't come out easily. Also the foreman insists (so that no more screw heads are stripped) that no pneumatic screw guns be used, (we didn't have electrics then) only hand held screwdrivers and an old fashion crank driver which gives you a little faster extraction.
Oh, and it's very hot and the removal of the sidewalls and the resulting fiberglass dust has your skin on fire...and you just knelt down and your knee kit a countersunk scree head. A great motivator to find a more professional line of work!
Mark/Mike, I can really appreciate your comments regarding the stripped screws on your $35K+ annual. Overall, the problem of common sense not applying to annuals is endemic in the aircraft maintenance industry. I often find and am puzzled by not replacing screws, wires, connectors, etc that have minimal cost because "it still works" mentality. You should see the 40 year old wires and connectors I just discovered in one of my airplanes back from annual on landing gear microswitches.....
Thankyou Mike. You sent my brother some Scrappy parts last year (you didnt even charge him). He passed away a few months ago. He talked about you all the time. Our passion was aircraft and we worked together. Its nice to see you and your brother working with each other. You flew over our house one day in Turbulence and it blew our minds (it is ridiculously fast)! I hope to see it fly again some day. Be well and enjoy pursuing your dreams.
I love how the PC-12 looks like it has a giant smile when the cowling is off.
As always immensely informative and entertaining. Slipping in some constructive criticism for service providers, demonstrating best practices for weight management, and making a great promo for Best Tugs in action with Mark's casual but completely confident backwards stroll w/ his freshly mod'ed "Pilatypus" following like a well trained puppy. Cliffhanger ending to keep us waiting for the next episode. Same Pilaty-time same Patey-Channel (or possibly @801pilot!) Well done. Oh, and Lima Papa... Limitless Potential!
"Zinc Chromate," Mark. Also the floorboard screws may be titanium for weight savings and are very expensive. They bind very easily when removing and the heads strip. Using valve grinding compound on the apex bit when removing titanium screws helps the traction and a much less chance of stripping the heads. They are a headache but I agree with you about replacing every one that is stripped. Really labor intensive fasteners.
Good to see more of Mark love to watch you guys work on airplanes
At 66 and disabled this is Something i can't do except through watching you guys it's so much better than a good book that you can't lay down 😁👍🍀
Such an inspiration to follow you guys. Nothing seems impossible to you, having your business, building crazy houses and airplanes and mostly being good people ❤️
Looking forward to follow this project as well. Thank you for taking us on this ride with you.
My favourite channel on TH-cam
The house I grew up in was number 22. I like that you guys brought that up! :)
There was always something about the PC-12 that I was drawn to. Even before I fell head-over-heels in love with aviation in 2017 (thanks to Greg / Premier1Driver's channel), I'd see one fly parallel to my street anywhere from 2-6x per week hauling pax from north to south, long before I knew what it was. I could always hear it coming - the modern turbine coupled with the old school tried-and-true prop. The long, straight wings really made it stand out in the sky, along with the SPEED! That was what drew me in - first the sound, then the speed! Before my shop was built I always worked on my tailgate of my truck in the driveway cleaning carburetors, rebuilding engines, keeping OPE, and cars / trucks running, and I'd always stop whatever I was doing and watch that Pilatus fly by, just amazed at the ground that thing was covering so quickly! It wasn't until I discovered aviation on TH-cam, and FlightAware that I knew how high, fast, what it was, where it came from and where it was going. Even at 9k feet above me, that thing just eats up the miles. Can really get a sense of the speed! Fun to watch! My chances of owning one in this lifetime are pretty slim, but that would be the one I would work my way up to if I ever had the opportunity. It's amazing to see what's under all those covers and panels! Impressive engineering. And speaking of engineering, that's the first time I've seen one of your Best Tugs operate! That is truly AMAZING! NICE work on that!! I know you guys have been continuously improving them over time, but wow, that's an impressive machine!
I've rambled enough! Great stuff fellas - always love the TV / movie clips thrown in - cracks me up! Can't wait to see her fly and perform with that new engine! I'll definitely check Mark's channel for those numbers - love that stuff. I can't recall where I saw the new paint ... maybe Instagram, but it looks PHENOMINAL! 😎🙌
Mark and Mike, what a great job from both of you Mark you did such a wonderful job on the video keep it up. I really love all of the A&P references I used to be an A&P mechanic for my dad‘s charter service on one old 1955 Aero Commander so it really hit home. I have followed both of your videos for a long time. Mike does a fabulous job but I’m glad to see that you’re on board and I followed you as well. I think your new “saying” should be…Mark’s going back to work??? I know Mike’s building a house that takes his time, but both of you guys do such a fabulous job for General aviation. It has renewed my interest, faith and belief in what can be done. I love the N number on the Pilatus, but I have to agree let’s party is the way to go, my dad‘s old plane was 00B miss it a lot but happy to live through you two brothers! Had the good fortune of meeting Mike and the Flying Cowboys in Reno the day before Draco’s mishap…look forward too what you and Mike have coming in the future great job to the both of you!!! Congrats and let’s Party Patey brothers!
I don't own a plane or ever plan to... I do however like to learn. Y'all are super knowledgeable and do a great job at explaining things. Thanks for sharing the knowledge
Love the attention to detail and yes, if the screw is not in good order throw it out and replace it. One of the tools that ruin screws is electric screwdrivers used inappropriately or not mated fully to the screw. Anyone using a rattle gun to tighten up wheel nuts (lug nuts if you prefer) on my car will get a thick ear. Hand tighten and then use a torque wrench with the appropriate setting.
I just run them up to where they are not yet tight with the impact wrench and then grab the torque wrench.
Hey Patey’s, I worked a Depot at Hill AFB just north of you guys. I worked F-4’s and F-16’s on the production line. We always replaced the screws and bolts we took out with new. The locking nuts and nut plates were hard on threads and you don’t want a fastener coming out of a jet on a mission! Thanks much for sharing your video.
Of course they’ll have best Platus on the planet! 😊
Mark couldn't be more right and fair regarding the screws. He certainly mentioned it in a far nicer manner than I would have.
All but one of the 12's I maintain has the Finnoff -P model and I love it! One huge recommendation is replacement of the older style wing fuel sumps with the newer style ones!
As a new to aircraft as in I've got ground my first ground school class scheduled a week away and a neighbor with A&P training going to look at what I'm hoping to be the same type of not same plane that enthralled me at age 6 a Cessna 195 with 69SMOH and the sexiness of a 32 highboy within my budget so Im hopefully passing up on a 172 and tail dragging the the ground and putting a dream on tap all 34 years later. Love you guys with Drago and Scrappy and Rebuild rescue as they made my side hustle of repairing cars over the last 3 years pay for my lessons and hopefully a beautiful 195.
I'll never forget when I dropped in at the late Joe Clarks "strip" (think airport, that big), and he said on the radio to go ahead and land he was just wrapping up his routine in his PC-12. For the next several minutes I got treated to a great aerobatic show. It's a crying shame you guys never met, he was a a 12 and a 6, loved the brand.
100% agree on the issue putting new screws in once the originals are worn😬 thats the reason i like to check my plane before panels get back closed… too many shops want to skip the little extra time but fail to understand that it makes all the difference.🤷🏼♂️
lol, that yellow stuff is yellow 3M. its great stuff. you use that to put something together that you never want to come back apart. I use it to glue random parts to my engines. its a pain to clean up if you ever do need to take it apart again, but good stuff.
Wow - I am very much looking forward to future videos on this project!
You should develop your revised "Master List of Parts" based on what you found after getting into it.
Oh man, I wish I had your problems. I am 51, busting my butt working 7/12s trying to figure out why I am sticking with trying to build just one RV-8 when I should have given up after the $30k increase of my project the last two years. Here you guys are sitting there talking about something that cost the same as eight of what I'm trying to build. I love it though when people's hard work pays off, even when a lot of others doesn't though, which is a big reason I love your videos. My problem is I love my job working on jet fighters which I've done since I left high school. It just doesn't quite pay as well. LOL Blue Skies!!!
the PC-12 is an aircraft I have always admired, never got to fly in one, but seeing you guys build a hotrodded one is absolutely something I am here for!
@Mike_Patey06 It is so disgusting to me to see you guys in here scamming when Mike and Mark just lost there father, absolutely despicable.
Ahhh the best tugs free advertisement. God that's easy to hook up and steer around.
Another good laugh. When I was working (Air Freight Op) the wires never got pulled out of the ceiling. Huge bundles of abandoned wires as tech advanced and left in place. I had an office that had a huge pile of Conrtoler com wires, from Coax to the latest blue hose. When I got done (carefully!) huge feet came out and it was just a small bundle (and management would not even let me pull the Coax out of the runs to the main brains to make room in the conduit for future runs. So much falls to management stupidity.
Love your comment about new screws! I replace mine at the hint of a bungled head.
In Europe we just added the GFC600 autopilot and EIS to G600's, GTN750's, 67P and a 7-Blade MT prop. Very impressive.
One thing I missed in life was a Brother🤔...... Mike or Mark you are so Lucky to have each other... so Lucky ! 😁Bravo.
Two of the coolest dudes.
I had lost track of you since you stepped away from the building of your last plane. Nice to see you both together working on a project. I hope you bring us along for this ride as well....
All those considerations , recording performance,and experience..for an optimum improvement. I was impressed about pilot workload the most..plus less flight time ,and greater power saftey margins. Ive always gone with the idea of bigger means easier workload for engine also
I really like the pace of the PC-12 engine swap. I was pleasantly surprised how much faster you showed the conversion
Me too, I was expecting several weeks worth of videos.
Thankyou Mark! You are easier on our nervous systems.....
PMP Pimp my Pilatus new model number PMPBT Pimped My Pilatus Best TUGSTURBO! LOL! Cool project!
Hello I just need to clarify something for your viewers and by the way I love you guys. 27:10 you mentioned shot peening the prop as hardening the prop that is not what it does. Shot peening puts the surface of steel (or material) under compression, by doing that it it allows the surface to come under tension and minimize stress fractures to form.
LOVE hearing Mike tell us about all the projects they have in motion!!! But.... it's a very welcomed breath of fresh air to listen to Mark and his angle on flying!!! Thanks Mark!!! (I like that name.... haha) 🙂
Me too. Thanks Mark.
I absolutely love the PC-12. It’s such a capable, reliable and beautiful aircraft.
Mark, good to see you in a video. You are the more quiet one and I prefer your style. Anxious to follow along on this project.
That yellow paste is call mastinox and it's made to prevent corrosion between dissimilar metal. But it's a pain to apply and clean. So we noe use thixo grease which does a great job a preventing corrosion but without all the negative side of the Mastinox
Mastinox is the yellow anti- sieze on the bolts. Bad stuff, worked with it early on in my career. Glad it was replaced with other compounds
Many called it "nastynox".
Great planes. Here we have the Pontius Pilatus 12 as the prime Royal Flying Doctor Service aeroplane. Very expensive but worth every penny, absolute life savers.
Dude Pilatus needs to pay you for this video. I love this kind of information. We are looking at going from Cheyenne's to Pilatus PC12 and this video enormously helpful really appreciate!
Mark, there's a further concern in that those are possibly 10/32 25" pds screws, which also means that they have been exceeding the torque values on those..... and what else? Oh, and if there are plate nuts, they could be forced to the point they are hard to engage once the floor boards are in. Always worth a check.
I'm not an airplane guy on the mechanical end but, I can relate to you guys being so particular with zero shortcuts or leaving abandoned equipment in the air frame. Great eye on the details, guys
Mike, regarding the Stripped Screws, regardless of what you're saying regarding the $35k annual inspection cost. The FBO you are using for service most likely is paying its Senior Mechanic (A&P) at best $60/hr at best; that guy won't be removing the screws. A Jr A&P or apprentice will most likely accomplish interiors. They're making maybe $14? Probably the same guys are using a drill set to high torque for removing the floor board screws.
Fantastic video. I really enjoyed the several comedic clips, great stuff. Awesome to see your tug in action, what a creation!
Thanks for doing this. I really enjoyed it. Flying Cubs, Champs and RV-4's doesn't allow me to be exposed to this level of aviation and it's really great to see something like this, explained in ways and terms I can easily follow. Thanks Mark. Really appreciate it!
New screws and hardware are 70% of why I bill 6.5% of billed labor cost for shop supplies. That way I'm covered and customers get whatever is needed as far as the little hardware items
Good to see Mark in a video again
Hey Mike, great project. Nice to see a refit that includes stripping out unused parts and wiring. Maybe "Let's Hit It" as your tagline.
Had me in stitches with the catchphrases .
15:50 ...the yellow stuff is what we called monkey snot, and I have no doubt it could cause cancer...
Nice Cliff hanger :( You're killing me with the suspense. :) Great Video guys! very inspirational!
Hey Mike, I worked with Oregon Aero for a couple of years. For a while we even had 2 PC-12's. Do yourself a favor and fly with one of the 5-blade Props like with the MT-Prop. Because of the symmetry of the 4-blade prop, the 5-blade is a lot quieter. Thanks a lot for this content. Brings a lot of memories up of old times crossing the Atlantic via Iceland to Germany for a couple of times. Greetings from Germany. 🙏😀
As good as Mike's content is, the editing is top notch to boot. Credit to the editors too!
Great work guys….
The engine upgrade will obviously have its benefits but the electrical system capacity upgrade and additional redundancy offered is quite substantial. Great for IMC and also any role equipment which may have high power requirements.
Mastinox D40 is the coating which was used on bolts and screws for anti seize / anti corrosion. My old boss back in the day called it Yellow peril.
I have a ton of work to do today but I couldn’t “get back to work” without finishing this video. Mark you nailed it. Fantastic comedy and easy presentation skills to make dry sh*t exciting! 😂
Wow. Bloody amazing
The yellow-ish stuff on bolts is probably mastinox. It's corrosion inhibitor used where two different metals meet...
Mark and Mike are so alike in some respects, but SO much different in others. Nice! Coolest twins around. :)
Excellent rundown of the upgrade. I’m used to watching Mike do the videos. I think you did very well. That’s obviously a very expensive upgrade but we’ll worth it I’m guessing. 👍👍🇨🇦
I'm here for everything, AND the new paint!
Nice to see Mark on a vid. I wonder what the old engine is going to power now? I agree if you spend a lot of money on maintanance even if they charge you to replace damaged screws you wont even notice it on your bill.
Awesome video Mark!!! and Mike. Can't wait to see the next installment. I know it'll get changed but I like the original paint scheme. Don't forget to change the small models paint, they gotta match :). I love this, hot rodding is fun.
AirHammer out!!
The PC-12 is already debatably the most plane you can get for your buck in the single engine civilian market.
What the Pateys have done is go "Right, we shall improve it!"
You did not just do that. Thats wrong just plane wrong...lol. Well cannot wait for Part 2. Great video N22LP for sure. Thank you for sharing...
SKU codes are the Bain of my life!! In fact just to follow the trend of my day to day, i am gonna put a SKU code on my headstone that ends up saying product not found 🤣
I want to see a video about those guy's parents. This is awesome. That's every parent's dream to raise such wonderful, smart and hard working human being. ❤️
I agree. I’m fascinated by this family. I know one of the other brothers lives in Costa Rica and owns a zoo, a soccer team, and a TV channel down there
You blokes are inspriational - keep up the videos on aviation and house flogs. Good to see Mark on the vlogs too.
It is great to see you Mark on Mike's channel! That is going to be an awesome Pilatus! BTW, loved the part with coming up with a signature saying... now I am thinking about a good saying for you Mark....
Airplane video - yeah 😁 But the best is Chandra spinning on her chair and slowly disappear to the left in the first five minutes. 🤣👍 What I would love to see is how you're doing all these things. It's nice to know what you do but even nicer how you do it. ☺️
Autralian international air show is on in march! come down to Melbourne Australia!!!!!!
The yellow stuff on the engine bolts is Duralac it stops corrosion. Well worth using.
Loving the project! Personally I think the LP should stand for "Legendary Pateys"
The funny side of Mark!!! Bobs your uncle!!! You guys rock!
Most excellent Mark video .
I want to see more of him .. .
Oh my goodness that sounds inappropriate lol
Seriously though Mark relates the job at hand well .
Oh man! Mark ended with a page turner!
How about old bolt fundraiser for the flight program? I’m IN!
Really cool to see this. Thank you!
Awesome, can’t wait to see the numbers! Great video as usual, but the “dancing” guy in the blue shirt cracked me up.
I'm so excited for you both! I'm here living vicariously and enjoying every minute of it. Thanks for sharing. We will watch closely with great interest and excitement.
Oh come on, Mark! You led me to the best part and I didn’t get to hear the ticking ignition starting the fire inside that new beast of an engine! I so wanted to witness the first exhaust puff! Haha
I hope you guys thank god every night for the lives you have! I can only dream about them…..just getting my pilots license was a struggle for me. I did it but the concept of owning a plane is beyond my wildest dreams. You guys are truly blessed! 👍👍