How Time Machine Backups Work When using iCloud

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  • @AndrewsProjectManagement
    @AndrewsProjectManagement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Probably the best explanation of Time Machine backups and the interaction with iCloud Drive that I've ever seen. Well done!

  • @vpf5295
    @vpf5295 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I finally understand and don't feel so paranoid about losing "everything"! You are such a great resource, Gary. Can't thank you enough for sharing all your knowledge.

  • @razorbackroar
    @razorbackroar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gary I’ll never understand how you know the things that 99% of us don’t know. With there being no useful information on the apple website nor any basic things on guides. I appreciate you bro.

  • @johnflemming7617
    @johnflemming7617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Worth sharing with friends and on social media. Gary is a Mac info treasure. Unlike many TH-cam presenters, Gary utilizes every moment with content.

  • @meeluanistyn1644
    @meeluanistyn1644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That'a really very well explained. When I started using Macs in 2013 I was concerned that files would get lost and be unrecoverable and I used to store everything locally - a legacy of using Windows for many, many years. Now I use optimise (Uk spelling!) and it all works seamlessly and I don't have worry about losing files. I'm pretty rubbish (sometimes) at finding old files when I can't recall enough about them to use Spotlight for a focused search. However, I know the files are there somewhere and invariably find them.

  • @hyperactivists9390
    @hyperactivists9390 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Holy cow this is the clearest explanation i could have asked for

  • @antongrimm
    @antongrimm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow! Great explanation and amazing visuals! You simplified it really well! Thank you so much for making these videos, Gary!

  • @carolinemyddelton580
    @carolinemyddelton580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That is super-clear and helpful, Gary! Another winner! Thank you *so* much for all these invaluable tutorials! 👍

  • @emmgeevideo
    @emmgeevideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm going on a flight tomorrow with my relatively new MacBook Air. I need to access files on the plane. I was really nervous that I would try to access a file and it wouldn't be there. I didn't know about the optimize setting. I just looked at it and sure enough it was set on. I unclicked it and now my files are downloading. I have plenty of local storage. Now I know I can get my work done on the plane. Thanks!

  • @Surfsailwaves
    @Surfsailwaves 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Massive thanks, this is a model of clarity. Far more useful than Apple documentation that just grinds through every feature without giving context.

  • @pattymccraw4170
    @pattymccraw4170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video Gary!! You’re videos are so valuable. I just wish I had found you when I bought my first iMac in 2009.

  • @dennisodell3040
    @dennisodell3040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gary, your videos are always very helpful. I’d put this one in the top five.

  • @PeterPrestonUK
    @PeterPrestonUK ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this clear explanation. I think you've just revolutionised my backup process. I think you've also just shown me that files I thought I'd lost were actually on icloud drive without me realising it. Phew.
    You've earned a new subscriber.

  • @PaulM_aka_4c21
    @PaulM_aka_4c21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanation, I found this out recently was shocked at first to find only the iCloud link file then was pleasantly surprised by looking even further back in time and the original file was there, so that is a point to remind people, to look back further for the actual file.

  • @mikevirtualteacher
    @mikevirtualteacher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello Gary, thank you always for the great tutorials! We all really appreciate them! I feel like I should mention something I didn't see in the video, if someone wants to use time machine to do a 100% back up and they have to many or too large a size of files for their current mac they can add an external drive or external drives to their mac and configure Time Machine to back up those drives as well. (One would need a bigger Time Machine back up drive). Hope this helps! Please keep up the fantastic work of these tutorials!

  • @TheHipDimension
    @TheHipDimension ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the clear explanation. There’s still one question that bugs me - how does TimeMachine ‘view’ the files that are offloaded? As still present (although they cannot be properly backed up)? I’m asking since I’m considering what happens in the event where the TimeMachine disk is full. Will the files which are not locally present start to get deleted from the backup? Thanks 🙏

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      This what this video is about. As for when your drive is full, I'm not sure how that would be any different than with other files. It would treat them the same.

  • @chucksaeger7500
    @chucksaeger7500 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are absolutely amazing! I’ve become a lot more confident since studying your videos. I also know that if I screw something up, you’ve got a video that will correct my error.
    Thanks

  • @chrisshuttleworth
    @chrisshuttleworth ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an excellent explanation of how Optimise Mac Storage and Time Machine work together. Very clear and helpful. Thank you!

  • @davidgory1757
    @davidgory1757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job with this Gary! I always learn things I thought I knew! 😃

  • @kbz311
    @kbz311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is incredible. So well reasoned and explained. 10/10 would learn anything from you.

  • @serenadenphoto
    @serenadenphoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well explained. I'm on a Macbook and I haven't used the optimize option because I want my files to be available even if I'm not connected to Internet. I also opted for a large SSD when I bought my Mac. Perhaps with better 5G coverage I will change my mind.

  • @unchein
    @unchein 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolute solid explanation of this topic. You're amazing, Gary. Thank you.

  • @drewcantu
    @drewcantu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally, a clear explanation of how a Mac backup works if Optimize Stoage is used in combination with Time Machine.

  • @oldcodger4672
    @oldcodger4672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent explanations thank you. I am slowly moving everything in Dropbox to ICloud. DB is a relic from SQL server days. But now DB on latest Mac is buggy and unreliable.
    A topic that I would appreciate you covering I’d the practical pros and cons of Time Machine backing up of multiple Macs. My wife and I each have desktop Macs, plus MacBooks, iPads and iPhones. My wife also has an HP Windows 10 laptop to run MYOB accounting app.
    Our son has a Qnap RAID backup to share all the computers for his family, with a similar Mac household. His setup seems a bit complex for me - at age 76 I am not quite so confident as I used to be at tackling new complex tasks. This is likely to progress over the next decade or three. So simplicity is a very key issue in any Time Machine system we use.
    I have used 2 USB drives for each iMac to share the TIME machine backups, and found their reliability to be better than the dual drive RAID backup drives. I will check the optimisation settings, as that was not front and centre in my thinking. Thanks again Gary.
    Maybe the video called be called “Time Machines for senior’s households. Is a RAID Server for you simple and reliable?”
    I think that there would be wide interest in this. I think Time Machine for Dummies is not available. Pity ‘bout that.

    • @BlueSky_BlueSky
      @BlueSky_BlueSky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would suggest to keep everything simple&stupid. Any additional appliance in the household needs its manual read and maintenance done. Keep the number of devices at a minimum and use them at default settings. If anything happens to you or your partner, it will be easier get outside help.

  • @Espesia1
    @Espesia1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, such thorough and clear in-depth explanation! Thank you so much for your hard work!

  • @man-bagdammit2297
    @man-bagdammit2297 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation and content. I would recommend this channel to anybody who is new to MacOS.

  • @VietnamSteve
    @VietnamSteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This explanation is worthy of an award 👍

  • @garynagle3093
    @garynagle3093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation. Thank you for clarifying the process and practical examples

  • @snappedpixel
    @snappedpixel ปีที่แล้ว

    The King of Mac logic! Thanks for this - just working out what to do with files I'm migrating from a NAS. What to leave on external hard drive and what might just be okay on iCloud / off-loaded. Now considering whether to back up the TM backup that will be on my NAS - using iDrive, so it is possible to do. But is it necessary or even restorable from the iDrive cloud. Could just let it chug anyway but not keen on the potentially pointless hehe.

  • @luclevesquephd
    @luclevesquephd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New to Apple. Extremely helpful. Thank you.

  • @allenhuffman
    @allenhuffman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is exactly what I was looking for today. There are so many conflicting answers to this simple question.

  • @strawberry.jamcake
    @strawberry.jamcake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for clearing this up! I'm so relieved and know I can finally update my macbook without worrying about my files.

  • @UnitCancellation
    @UnitCancellation ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, excellent, excellent!!! A very understandable explanation about something I've been worried about for a long time!

  • @andrewmack4830
    @andrewmack4830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another excellent video. Clear, and understandable. Thank you

  • @peerpaulin8486
    @peerpaulin8486 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well explained Gary. Now I got a 100% understanding of these circumstances. Due to sometimes my Internet connection is down and because of TimeMachine has no backup of certain files, I do additional regular backups of iCloud Drive / Documents / Desktop to an external drive using CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner). So I can be safe to have my files available even the Internet is down oder TimeMachine, where I recently had to start a new backup has not copied certain files. CCC provides a history itself, but as I have TimeMachine backing up my external drive as well I at least have daily backups even with TimeMachine. So I am pretty safe now. The perfect strategy would be one more backup of my internal and external drive using an additional hard drive. I plan this for the future although that maybe a kind of overkill.
    Anyway. Thanks a lot again for your comprehensive tutorial.

  • @stubsey7475
    @stubsey7475 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheers Gary what excellent clarity, I now feel I have a much better understanding of this whole subject. Two questions - firstly to do with deleted time machine back ups. I regularly delete my early time machine back ups to gain space on the hard drive I use solely as a time machine back up. Could this potentially mean I may have lost some files which I haven't accessed for a considerable time? My second question is this - is it worth periodically turning off "optimise mac storage", is there any benefit to doing this?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How are you deleting early Time Machine backups? You should never go to the drive and do anything with it manually. Only let Time Machine manage the drive. Any manual file deletions will probably corrupt the whole backup. For your second question, see th-cam.com/video/6WvwfapIYxE/w-d-xo.html and also note that if you CAN have Optimize turned off, then why do you have it turned on? It is mostly for when you don't have the drive space. If you do have the drive space, then why use it?

    • @stubsey7475
      @stubsey7475 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@macmost Hi Gary, as explained I was deleting early back ups to gain space on drive I use solely for time machine as I noticed available space was running low, I take your advice and will leave things to time machine to manage the drive. As far as your final comment re using "optimise mac storage" I'm afraid that's down to my ignorance / lack of understanding. Many thanks for your assistance. Continue the good work.

  • @nnajioforobinna
    @nnajioforobinna ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello and thanks so much for all the great videos that you put out. Please I downgraded my macOS from Sonoma to Ventura, and I am trying restore my MacBook Pro from the Time Machine backup, will it restore the Sonoma OS in my backup while restoring my Apps and Files? I only needed to restore my Apps and Files and not the Sonoma OS. Please how do I get to do that. Thanks and remain blessed.

  • @CharlesLouisRosario
    @CharlesLouisRosario 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video. Very good to know!

  • @gregkurtz9867
    @gregkurtz9867 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been slowly grasping how exactly iCloud works and while I was getting close to understanding fully, this video answers almost all of the questions I had. I have one left though. Is it possible to use iCloud to sync files stored on an external drive?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. iCloud Drive syncs using a folder inside your Home folder's Library folder. It won't do anything for files you have on an external drive.

  • @peterg8851
    @peterg8851 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Gary for all your help, it's been a great help. I have one question with this latest issue. my question is what do these clouds represent, the dotted ones and the full outline ones but without the down arrow?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      support.apple.com/en-us/HT203564

  • @icoco_de
    @icoco_de 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. 👍 Never before had thought about those aspects of Time Machine. Good to know.

  • @josefhab8095
    @josefhab8095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Useful as always, thanks Gary.

  • @ratcharinkongkasuwan3405
    @ratcharinkongkasuwan3405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was a very best explanation about icloud. Could I ask some question? I buy a new Mac and I would like to migrate all of my data from my old Mac. Most of my files are in the icloud and did not download in the local drive. What is the best way to migrate the data? In case that I have not backup via time machine before and plan to backup it today for the first times. I am worry that if I migrate via the time machine backup . Are the files in the icloud will migrate to the new Mac? Thank you so much.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't you WANT all of your iCloud files to migrate? Not sure what you are worried about. If you want to just sign into iCloud to get your files you can do that. ,But migration assistant will bring over settings too and make it easier.

  • @ashburnhampenhurstparishco8502
    @ashburnhampenhurstparishco8502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks - super helpful and everything explained very clearly and logically.

  • @LeeStewart
    @LeeStewart 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    iCloud Drive and Time Machine are completely separate. iCloud Drive are locally stored files in the same way as iCloud Photos are stored on the cloud. Time Machine relies on a USB drive or AirPort Time Capsule connecting to your Wi-Fi network to backup your entire Mac.

  • @YourLifeRE
    @YourLifeRE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos. Thanks! Question for you. My mac storage is getting full. I have time machine with backups. Can I delete all documents from my mac to free up space and use a backup if I need something? How does that work?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No! That's a very bad idea. A backup is for emergencies. It is not for storing anything. If you want to free up some space one thing you can do is to get another drive and archive old projects/folders/files to it. See th-cam.com/video/yZ_vXYb2ziw/w-d-xo.html

  • @chanwitte
    @chanwitte ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, superb video and explanations. I never knew what I didn't know until I watch your video. Now, I think I know!! thank you.

  • @jonathan112
    @jonathan112 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this concept also true for iCloud Photos, if you choose "Download Originals to this Mac"? Great video by the way!!

    • @macmost
      @macmost  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes.

  • @flocela
    @flocela ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you ever so much for making these videos.

  • @MalphiteOnly
    @MalphiteOnly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your videos, they are helpful. I have a question somewhat related to this video please. I have never been able to understand the following scenario: Let’s say I create a file on my iPad which has “optimize Mac storage turned on” and that file is now residing in iCloud and not on my iPad except as an empty envelope ready to be downloaded if needed. But lets add to this that my iPhone has iCloud turned on but “optimize Mac storage is turned off”. Does the full version of the original file that I created in iPad and is now in iCloud get downloaded to my iPhone? I have never been able to understand this sort of scenario.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First, "Optimize Mac storage" is for MACs only. The "optimize" setting doesn't exist for iPhones and iPads. It is ALWAYS behaving that way. But if you have "Optimize Mac storage" OFF on your Mac, then, yes, the file gets downloaded to your Mac and is not an "empty envelope" on your Mac.

    • @MalphiteOnly
      @MalphiteOnly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost thank you. I see now that the “optimize” on the iPad and iPhone are only for Photos. Regards

  • @LJ-jq8og
    @LJ-jq8og 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video presentation - thank you !

  • @craigdavis4494
    @craigdavis4494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Gary. This video brings to mind a concern I have had for a while. Is there a way to search Time Machine to ensure that any old sensitive files that you have deleted from both your hard drive and icloud are no longer present on your Time Machine backup drive(s)?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you know where the file was, go to that folder, Enter Time Machine, and then go back to before the file was deleted to see if it is there.

  • @HarveyBeaudette
    @HarveyBeaudette 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question on backing up: If I back up everything on my iMac(with Time Machine) do I need to backup my MacBook or my iPhone if all three devices are synced?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Possibly not. If everything you care about is in iCloud Drive, and iCloud Drive is syncing everything so you have the same files on your other Mac too, then one backup is all you need. This is my situation with my MacBook Air. It has nothing on it that isn't in iCloud Drive, and all of those files are backed up via Time Machine on my Mac Studio.

  • @carlpuccijr.
    @carlpuccijr. ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video! Question....... I've dedicated an external drive to Time Machine as you suggested... Can I use some of this drive for other uses such as photo storage or other uses? Thanks! Love your channel!

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You shouldn't. That creates a single point of failure for that data. I'll have a video on this shortly.

  • @born2bwildne744
    @born2bwildne744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great explainer.... the various examples really teach viewers what would happen...
    I am macOS neophyte and still struggle with the file storage system in macOS - and maybe am simply wanting functionality that I am familiar with in Windows. So, questions:
    Question: does macOS provide a feature where by a file or folder can be tagged as "always on local drive"? Thereby, always on local and iCloud?
    Question: Can you have document folder outside of iCloud Drive while still having a documents folder inside iCloud Drive, thus managing local vs. cloud storage manually? Store files/folders guaranteed to be local outside of iCloud Drive and the rest inside iCloud Drive?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have "Optimize" off then all of your files are always on your drive. If you have it on and the file is one you have used recently, then it is automatic. Having two copies of each file, one local and one in iCloud Drive would simply take up double the space with no purpose. Just have "Optimize" off and you get what you want.

  • @bradyudovich2384
    @bradyudovich2384 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome walk through! How does this work for photos? I would love to have a carbon copy of my iCloud Photos in Time Machine/on my external hard drive.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      It does just that. The Library is a "file" on your drive, so it is backed up to Time Machine. If you have "Optimize" turned on for Photos too, then it gets complicated like it does for files. But if you have the space, turn off Optimize for Photos and you have everything local as well as in iCloud so it is all backed up.

    • @bradyudovich2384
      @bradyudovich2384 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost Beautiful, thank you!

  • @romyxia2566
    @romyxia2566 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Gary. Thank you so so much for your useful videos. It does help a lot. Gary I have a quick question I have this symbol of maleware M symbol on top of my MacBook screen. I know that Mac already comes with build in protection. What can I do with this? is it safe to remove it? or should I leave it? Any advise please?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean by "this symbol of maleware M symbol?" Is this something you installed? What, exactly?

  • @voyagerman22
    @voyagerman22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great tutorial, thank you. Your explanation for the rarity of recovering a deleted file makes sense. Now I’m thinking I should put ALL my computers files in iCloud with Optimize off. That would be equivalent of offsite back-up correct? I could still do Time Machine locally on computer and have access of everything from any device. Am I overlooking anything?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you have the space to have Optimize OFF, then you'd have everything in iCloud Drive (always anyway), on your local drive, and also backed up in Time Machine.

    • @voyagerman22
      @voyagerman22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@macmost Thank you! Keep up the great videos

  • @joenorman2206
    @joenorman2206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video! Love it!

  • @marcusbarnes5929
    @marcusbarnes5929 ปีที่แล้ว

    What type and size of external storage device do you recomend for time machine back ups for a macbook pro with 4 TB storage ?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      Get a HDD that is as big as you can afford. Maybe a 12TB HDD, for instance.

  • @NeilDHerbert
    @NeilDHerbert ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Gary. So if you have lots of space on your computer hard drive I take it files will be in both places if you tick the optimise button? It seems to say they will only be offloaded if you need the memory. Or does it offload them just because they haven't been used in a while? Thanks

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think it will still offload files you just don't appear to need. If you have plenty of space, leave Optimize OFF.

  • @loisskiathitis8926
    @loisskiathitis8926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very useful and informative video tutorial today! Thank you, Gary! 👏🏻❤️

  • @suyong3suyin960
    @suyong3suyin960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again, TQSM Gary, God bless you for sharing another useful and interesting video! Question: If I were to [uncheck] Optimize Mac Storage, to backup all files in Time Machine, and then [check] Optimize Mac Storage and continue from there, will this cover 100% all files?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, But once you uncheck it, it will take some time to download all of the files. Of course that assumes you have the space on your drive to fit them all. Check to make sure they are all there. Could take anywhere from a few minutes to a few days depending on how much you have and the speed of your connection. Then turning it back on wouldn't immediately offload things, that may take hours or days too. But if you have the local storage space anyway, you could just leave it off (I do, on my Mac Studio, where I have 2TB).

    • @suyong3suyin960
      @suyong3suyin960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@macmost thanks!

    • @Surfsailwaves
      @Surfsailwaves 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for asking and answering - a big help.

  • @arinvestor
    @arinvestor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect video. Great job.

  • @riqfez5468
    @riqfez5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you have a video on how to create a new separate group of contacts beside the ones already on the contact list?
    thank you

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know if I have a recent one specifically about that. It is pretty straight-forward to do though, try it.

  • @adreaminfocus
    @adreaminfocus ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so much. so very clear and really helpful

  • @davidhood479
    @davidhood479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done explanation. There is one piece of information that I did not hear you talk about. If you sign into your iCloud Account thru the Web, and go to Settings and then under Advanced you can restore an iCloud File that has been deleted. I believe these deleted iCloud Files are retained in the Trash for 30 Days?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right. That's basically the same as the Trash/Bin Handy to fix a mistake and realize it fairly quickly.

  • @johnberry3824
    @johnberry3824 ปีที่แล้ว

    I may have missed this, but: if a file is too old & unchanged to have been downloaded and thus backed up, isn't it still present on iCloud? And couldn't you simply log into iCloud and find it there? (Or is that what you meant in the latter part of your talk?)
    Another question would be how optimized iCloud storage works with *other* backup apps, like SuperDuper. And with external drives (including the drives that you're backing up to...) It gets complicated.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. You don't need to "find it" at all, just access it as normal. But if your backup started after the last time it was present locally, then it wouldn't be on your backup drive. It would be the same with SuperDuper as it can only backup what is present.

  • @raywhitehead6551
    @raywhitehead6551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial. Would you consider a tutorial on how to restore from Time Machine?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are a lot of different situations that covers: A single file, multiple files, previous versions of recover a deleted file, to a new Mac, to the same Mac with a new drive, etc.

  • @johnjohnsson9483
    @johnjohnsson9483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want some control, would it be possible to turn off “optimise Mac storage” and the manually press the “delete local files” on an achive folder within iCloud Drive?
    Or rather - that is possible but will the Mac auto download the folder again because of the settings?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you can't do that. If you have Optimize Mac Storage off then everything is local all the time. If you delete a file it is DELETED EVERYWHERE. I think what you mean is "Remove Download" but you won't have that option with Optimize off, of course.

  • @ChrisF-dp9wl
    @ChrisF-dp9wl 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Gary, I have my Desktop and Documents folder on the iCloud Drive and not on my local home folder. How can I back those 2 folders using Time Machine.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They will be. See th-cam.com/video/6WvwfapIYxE/w-d-xo.html

  • @angeltan3622
    @angeltan3622 ปีที่แล้ว

    So you are saying, I don’t need an external drive to back up with time machine? Meaning if I do you subscribe to Apple’s hundred terabyte storage I could completely back up my Mac onto iCloud what time machine? Thank you.

  • @amyv2838
    @amyv2838 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 2 external HDs (mostly pictures and some personal files) which I would like to sync to icloud. I just got a MacBook Air with 8GB of memory, and my cloud is the 2TB plan, which is plenty to cover what's on the HDs. I'm trying to figure out a way to get my files in icloud, plus have a physical backup on the HD in case of a catastrophe. I don't need them on my Mac so optimizing storage would be fine. Do I need to copy the drives to a computer with much larger memory and do the sync from there or is there another way? If you already have a video on this I would greatly appreciate being pointed to it.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      First, memory has nothing to do with it. It is STORAGE, not memory that matters. Completely different things.
      What is on the external drives, exactly? Just photos as files? Or Photos App libraries?
      Assuming just photos as files, you can upload them to iCloud via iCloud.com and the web Photos app. Then just turn on iCloud Photos in the Photos app on your Mac and make sure "Optimize" is on.

    • @amyv2838
      @amyv2838 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@macmost Sorry I was confused about the terms. This is great news for the photos (they're just individual pictures saved as JPEGs), which is the bulk of what I need to add. So I think my plan of action should be to: 1. Copy all the photos to iCloud from both external HDs, 2. Move the photos all onto one external HD to keep as a physical backup, 3. Move my personal files onto my Mac and turn on optimize storage, 4. Set up Time Machine to backup to my now-empty external HD. Does that sound right? Does that cover my bases in case someone hacks my iCloud account or a meteor hits my house? Thanks!

    • @macmost
      @macmost  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amyv2838 Seems like a good plan.

  • @qwincyq6412
    @qwincyq6412 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know that cloud storage seems to be the preferred way to store files now, especially since Apple makes money selling space in iCloud. But internet connections can be iffy at times so could the files stored in iCloud be incomplete, compressed, or missing? Local storage along with time machine still seems the safest way to go.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are without a connection, and if you are using the "Optimize" feature, and if you are trying to access a file you haven't used in a while, you could have to wait until you have a connection again. But with the "Optimize" feature off, like I explain in the video, you can get to it. To have everything local all the time you'd need a big enough drive, and that would be true whether or not you are using iCloud Drive. So that disadvantage doesn't really exist. On the other hand, iCloud Drive means you can access your files on all of your devices and even on the web without any of your devices.

  • @gregorya72
    @gregorya72 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mention downloading a stub late, and it'll backup. What about photos? If I open the photos at least ONCE even 3 months late (bringing it down to the computer) will that then become part of the complete backup?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      It should. But if it is the same file as 3 months ago, then it wouldn't back it up because there was no change.

    • @gregorya72
      @gregorya72 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost Thanks. I really want a full Photos backup somehow, but my parents have more photos than their smaller hard disk can hold (plus a 2TB cloud plan). Thanks for your vid and reply!

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregorya72 See th-cam.com/video/5IvSPjs0GSM/w-d-xo.html

  • @chessforfunonly1586
    @chessforfunonly1586 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it best to do Time Machine manually, hourly, daily on my macbook air M2?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you do it daily and accidentally delete or change a file you have been working on for 8 hours, you'll lose all of your work. So why less than hourly?

    • @chessforfunonly1586
      @chessforfunonly1586 ปีที่แล้ว

      to save up space on the external SSD? And/or to not use the cpu for this, or is this light on the system?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chessforfunonly1586 It wouldn't save space. A backup once a day would save everything that changed in that day. A backup once an hour would save only files changed that hour. It is incremental. Files that aren't changed don't need to be backed up. Time Machine is very light on CPU use, even disk use. It is designed to run in the background. Don't try to manage it yourself, just let it work as it is designed.

    • @chessforfunonly1586
      @chessforfunonly1586 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost thanks a lot for the advice, Gary. I will set it to hourly again. Will it remember all the snapshots and then, when I only attach my external SSD once in a week or so, put them all on it? Or would I constantly have to plug in the external SSD? Sorry for many questions. You are of great help! thx

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chessforfunonly1586 You should definitely plug in your external drive much more often than that. Snapshots are good, but it won't save a week's worth. Plus snapshots are still local. If your MacBook breaks or is stolen, you'd lose all of your snapshots. Plug it in daily, if not several times per day. Or just plug it in when it is on your desk or wherever it makes sense.

  • @namansingh4684
    @namansingh4684 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir in case the files saved in icloud drive are backed up on time machine and the server offloads it from our local hard drive, Won't the new time machine backup think that since those files are no longer on the system, they might have been deleted by the user and in this case the new time machine backup won't include those files.
    So I think that in order to access those files a user would have to use the older time machine backup.
    Kindly correct me if I am wrong.
    thanks

    • @macmost
      @macmost  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Time Machine doesn't delete files like that. It is a "Time Machine." So if you delete a file the idea is you can go back in time to recover it from when it was there. But in the case of iCloud Drive caching, that isn't even an issue as it knows the file is still there, and unchanged.

    • @namansingh4684
      @namansingh4684 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@macmost ok sir

  • @JennaLauriceWardini
    @JennaLauriceWardini ปีที่แล้ว

    Does time machine see a file as "altered" if its offloaded to icloud drive at a later date? It seems like it would notice a change in the content of the file and try to re-backup the file once the contents had been offloaded to drive and you would overwrite the version with content. no?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure what you mean. If the file is offloaded, then it isn't available to backup. Plus nothing has changed as far as a the contents of the file anyway.

  • @herdeadbeatbabydadtee
    @herdeadbeatbabydadtee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank u so simple ok so lemme see if im getting it right I just need to have ample space on my local drive and iCloud optimize off if i want all my files to stay on my local drive and so iCloud won't mess with the files. and if I want to go the other route and optimize I need ample amount of iCloud space so iCloud won't mess up my files. correct?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need ample space in iCloud either way.

    • @herdeadbeatbabydadtee
      @herdeadbeatbabydadtee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@macmostthanks so its correct to say it won't corrupt my older logic files if there is always enough space. thanks Ill stop bad nothing I cloud and apple about that because that actually makes since but can I recover the Icloud corruptedr logic pro x files through Iclouddrive or Icloud site? or maybe some other way specifically for logic pro x files? and last thing to totally avoid all of this I should implement time machine back ups.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@herdeadbeatbabydadtee Corrupt? I don't know what you mean. Why would they get corrupted? I don't use Logic Pro but I don't see why files would be corrupt. If you are having that kind of problem I would call Apple Support or get some firsthand expert help.

  • @richc47us
    @richc47us ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to play this over and over to completely understand how to proceed for the best options.

  • @jamesstatham3258
    @jamesstatham3258 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gary, thanks for the video but when I enter Time Machine and look for my iCloud Drive folder it only gives me today as an option and everything else is greyed out. All my files were stored locally, so I know they were there but I cannot access them, any ideas?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      First, start at the exact location of the file, not the top-level of iCloud Drive. Then use the back (up) arrow to the right to go to previous backups of that file.

  • @anthonyc7979
    @anthonyc7979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always great info. I use Time Machine to an external disk through wifi. I get "waiting to complete first backup" The disk has months of backups but can't access them. I tried all the tips on could find online but I can't correct the situation and can't backup. Any ideas? Thank you

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So it has been working on the first backup for months? Sounds like something is wrong then.

  • @thetrainrev5483
    @thetrainrev5483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gary, I have a 6TB Seagate external drive that I selected for backups in TimeMachine preferences. Does that mean I am not backing up to iCloud Drive? what should I do to back up to both the Seagate and iCloud? Can I backup my MacBook Pro to the same Seagate drive under a different user (my wife)?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      iCloud Drive is a cloud service, not a backup. iCloud Drive is the virtual location of your files, Time Machine is the backup for those files. See th-cam.com/video/yM-hbmpTfgI/w-d-xo.html

  • @SotirisMoraitis92
    @SotirisMoraitis92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question. I wana change my email Address on my Icloud and moving all my icloud files to the other icloud address..is that possible? If yes, how? :P

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      support.apple.com/en-us/HT202667

  • @LJ-jq8og
    @LJ-jq8og 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gary: Do you have any idea yet on whether the new IOS 16 "delete" feature on apple messages will allow old text messages to be recalled. I hope not. I use texting records for business and NEED those old text records to protect myself on prior quotes etc., and agreements. I am "hopeful" it is only for "recently" sent text messages ? If you know yet ? 🙏

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you mean the ability to recover deleted messages? I think it is 30 days. But in your case I don't see how it applies as you wouldn't be deleting a message if it is important anyway.

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost No. There is new "re-call" functions to both texts and emails coming out soon. 10 seconds to recall an email. My question solely goes to people being able to recall texts they had previously sent to me ??
      I may not have asked the question well. My understanding is that the new Apple iPhone software will allow you to recall or pull back previously sent text messages. This is supposedly a new feature. My concern is is that people will be able to recall messages they sent you from long ago.? I am hoping that is not the case.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LJ-jq8og Oh, that's different. It is called "Unsend." It has to be iMessage (not SMS) and it has a 15-second time limit as of the first betas. You should never rely on a text message conversation for official records though. If it is important, save it. If it is a legal agreement, you need another method as messages can be so easily faked.

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost Ah Haa ! Yes and thank you. Appreciate ALL the good points. I often will print texts to PDF which is fairly easily from iMessage on my MacBook Pro 16.

  • @GarryKnight
    @GarryKnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent explanation, as always. However, it's only useful when iCloud is present. If, for any reason, you can't get an internet connection, e.g. when your ISP has an outage or even when you're out of range of the nearest cell tower, those files that are only on iCloud might as well not be there. So it's always better, if you're taking a project on the road with you, to make sure all of the files you need are actually present on the Mac.

  • @generic_official
    @generic_official 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the criteria for a file to be deemed “recently used”? In other words, what is the period of time that needs to pass before a file is offloaded? Thanks 😊

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No set time. Depends on the amount of space you have available. If you have very little space on your drive and are using a lot of files, then other files will be offloaded quicker.

  • @ruimartinho7191
    @ruimartinho7191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very useful video! How do you eject a Time Machine drive safely? Thank you, Gary!

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same way you do with any external drive. In the Finder sidebar, click the eject button next to it.

    • @ruimartinho7191
      @ruimartinho7191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I know it but, unfortunately, it doesn't work. When I try to do this, the message appears: "The disk "Time Machine Backup" wasn't ejected because one or more programs may be using it. You can try to eject the disk again or click Force Eject to eject it immediately.". I think a lot of people have this problem. Thank you, Gary

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ruimartinho7191 Is a Time Machine backup taking place when you try that? If so, wait until it is done or Stop it before trying to eject. Otherwise, do you have any maintenance or "cleaner" software installed? Security software? If not, then maybe try a shut down, then disconnect it, then start up again.

    • @ruimartinho7191
      @ruimartinho7191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is a Time Machine backup taking place when you try that? NO. Do you have any maintenance or "cleaner" software installed? NO. Security software? NO. If not, then maybe try a shut down, then disconnect it, then start up again. I would like to avoid having to shut down my MacBook, however I will do it. Thanks, Gary

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ruimartinho7191 I'm just suggesting to do it this once. Hopefully you won't need to do that every time.

  • @paige.campbell
    @paige.campbell ปีที่แล้ว

    blessssssssssss. thank you for your videos, this was imploding my brain

  • @BorderTerrier-yk2hw
    @BorderTerrier-yk2hw 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does M.Soft OneDrive files react in the same way as ICloud files when using Time Machine?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not sure as I don't use that. But if they are normal files on the drive, then they should be backed up. If you use it, then try it and see.

  • @joneisenberg7877
    @joneisenberg7877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Thank you!

  • @user-fi5yb
    @user-fi5yb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello. When downloading videos from icloud to windows desctop the "date taken" is missing. Also the "creation date" is set to the date that has beeing downloaded. Is there any way to download the videos with the correct metadata? I've tried every possible way and still havent got to the buttom of it

    • @macmost
      @macmost  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The metadata inside a file should be the same. Are you sure you are looking at the metadata inside the file, not the FILE date?

  • @nstamer
    @nstamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I’m not clear on- will changes made to an iCloud account be ignored / undone if restoring from Time Machine ? I believe this is what recently happened to my account after my MacBook was away for a week getting repaired. Id done quite a bit of reorganization in that time using my iPad and all that effort seems to have been a waste

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean a complete restore, like using Migration Assistant? It shouldn't. But Im not sure as there is no easy way to test that.

  • @Land-of-reason
    @Land-of-reason 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    QUESTION: If you turn 'optimise' off do the files automatically transfer back from icloud to the local storage?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you turn it off, then all files will be downloaded and soon be "present" on your Mac, if you have the space for them.

    • @Land-of-reason
      @Land-of-reason 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost thanks.

  • @subbbass
    @subbbass ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a timemachine backup on a harddrive that has problems. At the moment i can open data on this HD but i can't make a new timemachine backup. So i bought a new HD and i want to copy also the old data to the new HD (before the old completly fails) + use it for all future timemachine backups. I haven't found a way ..... Do you have a workaround for me?

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn't bother. Just start the new backup. Keep the old drive around for some time (30 days, maybe) in case you need a file you messed up with.

  • @gbluvas
    @gbluvas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do I back up to icloud an external drive on my studio mac that is running the system, and storing all files? TIA

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      iCloud isn't a backup, it is a cloud service. You would back up to a Time Machine drive or an online service like Backblaze.

    • @gbluvas
      @gbluvas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Time Machine backup to an external drive atm, but would like to have copies of my files on my mac backed up to a cloud service

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gbluvas Cloud services aren't for backing up. See th-cam.com/video/yM-hbmpTfgI/w-d-xo.html So if what you really want is an online backup, use something like Backblaze.

  • @casybond
    @casybond ปีที่แล้ว

    Good backup strategy requires 3 copies: 1. on Mac disk, 2. on TM backup, and 3. on iCloud. When files are off-loaded from your Mac you end up with a hybrid situation: many files having 3 copies but others having just 2 copies.

  • @lillil6490
    @lillil6490 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: if you’ve had Time Machine on for years but never actually plugged in an external hard drive until recently, are the files on the drive now?

    • @lillil6490
      @lillil6490 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also why hardly anyone else is pointing out this is so frustrating. The amount of articles I’ve read and only this gives the full picture. Thank you.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably only the files that are locally cached right now are backed up. If you have the room, turn off Optimize for a while to get everything downloaded and backed up. Otherwise, maybe consider using the Download Now function for any file you consider really important, though likely most of those are local since you'd be using them frequently.

    • @lillil6490
      @lillil6490 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost Thank you. For me it’s pictures and lots of them, and definitely no available room on the computer. Someone gave a hypothetical of changing the default download location to your external so you could select “download now” and it would automatically go to the external hard drive and not the computer’s disc. But I haven’t found out if that’s even possible yet.

    • @macmost
      @macmost  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lillil6490 "Download Now" is for iCloud Drive files, not Photos. With Photos you can move your library to an external drive, but then you have to have that drive attached all the time to use your Photos. Plus Photos will be slower working from an external. No great solution. But at least by using iCloud Photos you have your photos stored in the cloud which is a lot safer than just on one drive that could fail.

    • @lillil6490
      @lillil6490 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@macmost somehow I'm more confused but I appreciate your response. Some photo files in my desktop folders successfully transferred to the external. But not all, which I attribute to being offloaded to iCloud. Photos app shows on the external, but if I click I get a 4302 error. Apple really needs to make this less confusing lol.

  • @zwurltech9047
    @zwurltech9047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!

  • @MultiFivefingers
    @MultiFivefingers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, wondering if you might know how to make your iPhone keep all of iCloud Drive downloaded.
    I want access to my whole iCloud Drive offline on all my devices, the optimize Mac checkbox makes it possible to do this on my desktop but my iPhone always offloads files from my desktop and documents folders and then when I’m offline I no longer have access…

    • @macmost
      @macmost  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no way to do that. If you have plenty of space on your iPhone and you download the folders you need in the Files app, they should remain for some time as long as you continue to have plenty of space.