limiter ceiling is the threshold for the limiting. if you set it at 12 db a sound would need to peak at 12db before it starts limiting. Also if you set the limiter attack, release and sustain to 0 the limiter becomes a hard clipper using the limiter ceiling as the threshold. Fruity Limiter underrated.
Nice info on the expander. Though raising the ceiling ALONE has no effect on the waveform. You can test this by rendering your track dry. Then render with the ceiling up. Play both and reverse the polarity on one and you get perfect phase cancellation.
I use Fruity Limiter to compress and saturate melodies, and I use Fruity Soft Clipper for drums. I put the threshold on the highest and post gain to the desired DB level, and the drums tend to keep all their qualities in the mix, no matter how low that DB level is. I use saturation on the limiter in my master preset, too.
To help your voice-over not get too noisy you can just add the waves Ns1 to your voice over track and find a sweet spot . its a great tutorial here . thanks
CEIL (Ceiling) - Limiter ceiling. Sets the level above which the signal will be limited. While it is not possible to disable the limiter stage completely, setting the ceiling level to the maximum (+12 dB) should effectively prevent limiter engaging. That's what the ceiling does as per the manual. The limiting of the signal is being "compressed" or "Limited" in your video by the saturator.
The SAUCE is INSANE!! 🔥🔥 Thank you fam! Just getting started this year and I need to improve everything but most interested in Mixing / Mastering! This is AMAZING. So I don’t have to use soft clipper this gives WAAAAYYY more control
I remember Decap in one of his videos was talking about the ceiling as well in the fruity limiter how he uses it on his drums iI guess why he has the best kicks & 808s in my opinion his drums really do knock.
I was always taught when I open FL Studio and Fruity Limiter was on the master, I was taught to delete it right away, Some people was acting like Fruity Limiter was the devil 😂 Anyway, Thank you Game...Always dropping knowledge. Do the Grammy's have a section for TH-cam Producers/Teachers like you if they don't they should and you Sir should have lots of those GRAMMY'S with YOUR NAME on THEM, PERIOD!!!
yes you should. make your song, get all the levels as best as you can before adding compression and mastering to the overall track -> for best results.
Bro you spit so much game and give us some of the best musical facts I can find on the internet as far as producing an engineering music yous a real one b
you werent hitting clipping range before increasing that ceiling right? Why would it clip then? Also, you can do this with maximus and compressor too, i dont need to tell how its done in maximus but in fls stock compressor if you increase threshold and change the the "ratio" to 0/4 it will increase the volume, i do it sometimes on 808s but i have never tried that on a full beat tho i have to admit.
@@ehmjay540 i think they meant you should route your mixbus to a new channel, use the limiter and then blend this new signal with the original mix bus signal in the master channel.
Thanks so much man I’ve been struggling with trying to get a Level sound this trick helped me to achieve that I’m forever grateful 💯🙏🏾❤️ much thanks bro
Damn, I'm so surprised the way stock Compression and Limiting sounds in FL. (Did they change it??) I can't hear a difference between Fruity Limiter -vs- my expensive Pro-L 2. Also the Fruity Compressor gives me the same sound as Compassion with the same settings.
Thank you for the best Tutorial, how to use the Compressor, and Limiter. 🔥 now i make 2 years music and Never get a good Video how to use this to Master a Beat. 🔥🔥🙏
I attempted to apply this to some of my old tracks and hear the differences but I unfortunately realized this technique is specific for your genre. In my case it doesn't work at all and ruins a lot of the sounds. Still interesting though.
I you sure this expanding? It feels like its doing upward compression. Also is the limiter and the compressor working together or does it switch between them depending on what is chosen?
yea, just watching him tinker with it, it seemed like upward compression (in OTT). But either way I'm going to re investigate the plugin using his information because there is a BIG difference in the sound for sure. The real test is what it sounds like after it's rendered. Stay up and keep Fruity Loopin'. Peace
Theoretically speaking, could you put your kicks/808s on a track by themselves, then do all this to just the track the kicks are on so it doesn’t affect the hh/claps ?
Congratulations you discovered saturation and compression.😂 why are you doing this in your master instead of just fixing your mix??? The best master is a great mix down
bro tells us we using it wrong and then proceeds to not use it as a limiter at all. real title should be how to be too lazy to use real clipper. you should never use expansion on something that can still be mixed. expansion is mostly for fixing squashed amateur rendered mixes. if you need more dynamics in your kick turn it up and use a 30 ms attack on your drum bus. if youy simply turn up the drums they will hit the clipper quicker and harder then everything else. listen to this guy if you want to sound like everyone else.
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limiter ceiling is the threshold for the limiting. if you set it at 12 db a sound would need to peak at 12db before it starts limiting. Also if you set the limiter attack, release and sustain to 0 the limiter becomes a hard clipper using the limiter ceiling as the threshold.
Fruity Limiter underrated.
I just recently got into limiter and distructor and I’m finally seeing the magic in the distorted beats I hear
Thankyou
Nice info on the expander. Though raising the ceiling ALONE has no effect on the waveform. You can test this by rendering your track dry. Then render with the ceiling up. Play both and reverse the polarity on one and you get perfect phase cancellation.
I use the limiter in FL a lot. Added this to the toolbox. Thanks Fam!
I use Fruity Limiter to compress and saturate melodies, and I use Fruity Soft Clipper for drums.
I put the threshold on the highest and post gain to the desired DB level, and the drums tend to keep all their qualities in the mix, no matter how low that DB level is.
I use saturation on the limiter in my master preset, too.
To help your voice-over not get too noisy you can just add the waves Ns1 to your voice over track and find a sweet spot . its a great tutorial here . thanks
CEIL (Ceiling) - Limiter ceiling. Sets the level above which the signal will be limited. While it is not possible to disable the limiter stage completely, setting the ceiling level to the maximum (+12 dB) should effectively prevent limiter engaging.
That's what the ceiling does as per the manual. The limiting of the signal is being "compressed" or "Limited" in your video by the saturator.
The SAUCE is INSANE!! 🔥🔥
Thank you fam! Just getting started this year and I need to improve everything but most interested in Mixing / Mastering!
This is AMAZING. So I don’t have to use soft clipper this gives WAAAAYYY more control
I remember Decap in one of his videos was talking about the ceiling as well in the fruity limiter how he uses it on his drums iI guess why he has the best kicks & 808s in my opinion his drums really do knock.
busyworks u did it again… u a producing legend fr i get so many tips from u bru
I was always taught when I open FL Studio and Fruity Limiter was on the master, I was taught to delete it right away, Some people was acting like Fruity Limiter was the devil 😂 Anyway, Thank you Game...Always dropping knowledge. Do the Grammy's have a section for TH-cam Producers/Teachers like you if they don't they should and you Sir should have lots of those GRAMMY'S with YOUR NAME on THEM, PERIOD!!!
I second that man.🙌
yes you should. make your song, get all the levels as best as you can before adding compression and mastering to the overall track -> for best results.
Bro you spit so much game and give us some of the best musical facts I can find on the internet as far as producing an engineering music yous a real one b
That beat was dope and thanks for da info fam I'm glad u here we need u!!
some don't know this is a game changer... thanks BWB for this man! ❤️
Always dropping some Gems.... appreciate it 👍
I saw laxcity do this and I didn't really know how it works. I just know it sounds louder. Thanks for explaining this more indepth!
Hey, thanks for letting me know about this. You helped me unflatten a lot of instruments and samples for my new remastered song.
5 year ...I still love you r video
You a real one 💯
I watched this n instantly had to go try it, this a game changer bro🔥🔥🔥🔥
you werent hitting clipping range before increasing that ceiling right? Why would it clip then? Also, you can do this with maximus and compressor too, i dont need to tell how its done in maximus but in fls stock compressor if you increase threshold and change the the "ratio" to 0/4 it will increase the volume, i do it sometimes on 808s but i have never tried that on a full beat tho i have to admit.
Love your videos, been watching for a long time. I feel wary that you don't know what the ceiling on a limiter is for.
Yo Game... the REAL game changer is using this in parallel to get this sound WITH your original dynamics in tact.
So put it on my mix bus? AND the master?
@@ehmjay540 i think they meant you should route your mixbus to a new channel, use the limiter and then blend this new signal with the original mix bus signal in the master channel.
@@ehmjay540 please do not do that. This guy has no idea what he is talking about
Probably cause polarity issues
Very educative and kindly do a video on how to go about Maximus
Thanks so much man I’ve been struggling with trying to get a Level sound this trick helped me to achieve that I’m forever grateful 💯🙏🏾❤️ much thanks bro
Busy with the work
Great help dude. Keep up the great work. Gonna give you a shout out on my next podcast.
Thank you. A revisit of Fruity Limiter is in order with this NEW information. If it will render like that......WHEW
🔥🔥🔥🔥 definitely goin to try this. I used limiter a little different
Thanks for info. Would love to hear your take on the Maximus multi compressor.
Oh thank u ffs i never really understood the concept of limiter and u explained that so well
busy done did it again changing the sound of the industry
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This is brilliant! Big love from Russia! Watching you since 2019 🤯
Damn, I'm so surprised the way stock Compression and Limiting sounds in FL. (Did they change it??)
I can't hear a difference between Fruity Limiter -vs- my expensive Pro-L 2. Also the Fruity Compressor gives me the same sound as Compassion with the same settings.
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen. Ever.
Thank you for the best Tutorial, how to use the Compressor, and Limiter. 🔥 now i make 2 years music and Never get a good Video how to use this to Master a Beat. 🔥🔥🙏
Hey can you make a vid on the stock plugin pitch shifter and how to use it like the waves pitch shifter plugin
Thanks
Wow! Big coincidence. I was just about searching for this tutorial online and suddenly, this popped up
I got you 😎
we need this instrumental released ASAP no rocky!
Fam thank you so much for this gem 🙏
Thanks for the tip busy!
Was waiting for this video!
We need ample guitar melody full detail tutorial please?
This video is the besttt i will try it !!
FL Studio be like:
Soft Clipper: average Lil B song
No Fruity Limiter: *average Lil B song*
Dayum bro did u just try several chains and found this one. It’s a diamond!
I don’t even know how I stumbled across this lol
Fruity Limiter Been Slept On!
do you put it on before or after mixing your beats?
Thank you. This has helped out a great deal.
I attempted to apply this to some of my old tracks and hear the differences but I unfortunately realized this technique is specific for your genre. In my case it doesn't work at all and ruins a lot of the sounds. Still interesting though.
I you sure this expanding? It feels like its doing upward compression. Also is the limiter and the compressor working together or does it switch between them depending on what is chosen?
yea, just watching him tinker with it, it seemed like upward compression (in OTT). But either way I'm going to re investigate the plugin using his information because there is a BIG difference in the sound for sure. The real test is what it sounds like after it's rendered. Stay up and keep Fruity Loopin'. Peace
@@forsale313 its upward compression and he probably means that too, just using the wrong term.
Now I know why Limiter is default when you open up FL 11.
why please explainn
That beat fye asl
and thank you for your effort. If you can make a video about Lo-Fi soft, that would be aweso!
busy works beats deez nutz. all the people that hate on you are wack. keep it going bizzy.
Yooo thanks man 😅ibeen lookin for these bra
How should I go about compressing vocals?
really helpful tkx bro
Can I do the same with my vocals ?
Thanks for the tip
wouldnt one put the EQ after the clipper and limiter? I was always under the impression that the effects chain started at the top and moved downwards.
Would you want to level before this or after this step
Sa . It's hard when you look at the software
thank you
Gems 🔥
tested & approved
I used limiter on my my beat 🔥
This is fn genius!!! thank you
Shhheeessshhhh tooo much saauce🔥🔥
THIS A GAME CHANGER!!!! (no pun intended lol)
Theoretically speaking, could you put your kicks/808s on a track by themselves, then do all this to just the track the kicks are on so it doesn’t affect the hh/claps ?
You could , track might not sound as cohesive but it can be done
I would agree completely. I separate most of my drums as much as possible to add effects to each instrument. Instead of the entire drum track at once.
so this is kinda like what the mv2 does but you can add saturation?
🔥enrgy beats taught the same trick
Yo game, please send us the song. Or a link to download it. It's so good.
I always deleted fruity limiter before this.. 🤣
This is so inspiring 🔥 ! Thank you
Only use this to side chain
Thank youuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can u do this technique when mastering a track?
Have you find an answer to this?
Sheesh now my music is going to be better now
Gems! 💎
big gem
Does this apply to vocals?
thanks for videoooo!!!
:D :D
TOO MUCH BRO🔥🔥🔥
Nice
YESSIR YESSIR
On point
0:25 me too :P
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great!🙏
I remember dude played my worst beat then dissed it😂 but doesn't use limiter?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What beat is this tho ?
get psp vintage warmer
Thanks tho, but how do i handle it when a 808 is added?
The same way
@@busyworksbeats okay thanks
Is it just me or is there literally no difference between any of these other than volume?
You have to use a good set of headphones or monitors. Close your eyes and it feels as if the room got bigger in a 3 dimensional space.
How would u do dat in ableton?
goat
sounds overly distorted now. completely disagree with how you've used it.
Congratulations you discovered saturation and compression.😂 why are you doing this in your master instead of just fixing your mix???
The best master is a great mix down
I literally do that all in the mix and just use a limiter to bring the gain back up
stil got things to learn for this fool who is me lol
💝
bro tells us we using it wrong and then proceeds to not use it as a limiter at all. real title should be how to be too lazy to use real clipper. you should never use expansion on something that can still be mixed. expansion is mostly for fixing squashed amateur rendered mixes. if you need more dynamics in your kick turn it up and use a 30 ms attack on your drum bus. if youy simply turn up the drums they will hit the clipper quicker and harder then everything else. listen to this guy if you want to sound like everyone else.