She should have reported him if nothing else he needed to be fired. He had no right to ask her to “prove it” and for what just so the kid could pet a dog?? WTF if the dog attacked someone then MAYBE she could be questioned a little but even then prob not. But the dog ddi NOTHING the lady just wanted to prove she was right about the girl not being blind and have her kid pet the dog the guard escalating things further for something stupid he should be fired for its a big liability for the mall too
When I was a kid, my mom taught me and my sister to never mess with service dogs when they're on duty. After that, a lady with a service dog got my mom's attention and thanked her for teaching us to be respectful. My sister and I are older now and that's still stuck with us to this day. Now when we see service dogs, we leave them alone
@@vergilthewolf3619 I don't think it's depressing. It means that at least they are teaching kids in school how to behave around service dogs. There are plenty of things that parents depend on their children to know. My mother still talks about "sending a letter on the computer". She means email.
And that first security guard should've lost his job for this. The fact that he ALLOWED KAREN TO GRAB THE HARNESS AND DIDN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT was an absolute show of incompetence.
I wish that was the case. I used to be a guard. The client company won't let guards physically interact with anyone due to fear of being sued. The company wants the target of the sue to be the Karen. Like when I was a guard, my partner got fired for stopping a thief. The thief grabbed some booze and ran for the door, but my partner grabbed his jacket and kept him from escaping for a little less than a minute, long enough for the male employees of the store to block the door themselves, and the cops got there pretty quickly. Cost of potentially stolen goods: $100 Cost of company being sued for injury from guard: $thousands So let the thief get away. Those were our orders.
@@ViirinSoftworks it was too late for that. His collosal f-up by asking her if she could prove she was blind was already more than enough to bring a lawsuit against the company for ADA violations. One that would likely be much more costly than had he removed the Karen's grip.
@@luke6612 Totally agreed on all counts. I just wanted to say how I was trained as a security guard, in case anyone wondered why guards allow obvious thieves to steal and do nothing.
@@ViirinSoftworks That's some of the dumbest goddamn shit I've ever read. What's the point of having security in a place if they're not allowed to actually secure anything? It shouldn't be allowed for a criminal, in the middle of committing a crime, to sue anybody for anything. That's just another bit of utter idiocy in the US legal system.
Security guard 1 needs to be fired for incompetence. As a security guard myself, that was an embarrassing level of stupid. He should have shut Karen down long before it got to where it did.
same here. We should try to deescalate situations and no means no. I don't like confrontation, but I'd chew him up for being so a useless guard and call the dispatcher to get him out of that area and work at a construction site to look at the materials. Same IQ level as the surrounding bricks.
You can be surprised at how... persistent some people are to the point you go along with what they're demanding just to make them shut up and get this confrontation over with. But the guard asking OP to prove they're blind is a whole new level of no
On the guide dog story, throughout its reading I kept thinking the same way as rSlash pointed out at the end. When a dog owner tells you no, you can't pet my dog, that's it. End of discussion. The security guard was totally useless, and should have just asked Karen to stop pestering customers from the get go.
This is only one part of the issue but totally agree about petting dogs you don’t know. You ask the owner, if they say yes hold out your hand for the dog to sniff and only pat if the dog acts interested. If either these is a no, that’s it.
also, according to the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the security guard cannot ask anything about her disability, including for her to prove her disability.
That security guard should be immediately fired. Under the Americans with Disabilities Act it is illegal for any business or their representatives to ask you to prove you are blind or to even prove your dog is trained. They have 2 questions and only 2 questions they can legally ask. 1. Are you disabled (if your disability isn't immediately obvious) and 2. Is your dog specifically trained to help you with any aspect of your disability. Those are literally the only 2 questions legally allowed to be asked. And it surprises me that more businesses don't educate their employees on the ADA considering ADA violation lawsuits are historically some of the most expensive lawsuits a business can face. I would know. I have been disabled my whole life. Its annoying how few people actually know the law
These stories always make me so angry. I wanted to punch the security guard. I guess it's a good thing OP didn't mention the store cuz people would have flamed it to nonexistance
I thought the first one was "Is that a service dog?" And the second was "Waht task is it trained to perform" I thought that businesses couldn't ask someone if they were disabled because it's a violation of some sort.
@@NekoKuro-il8rz they can ask you if you are disabled. They cannot ask you what your specific diagnosis is or to prove your disability to them. I had a Dollar General employee learn that the hard way when I accidentally got her fired for reporting her to DG corporate HQ. I had just moved out to North Carolina in June. This happened around mid July. Governor Roy Cooper had issued a mask mandate for all of NC because of Covid. But a specific exception to the mandate was if you had any physical, mental, or emotional disability or disorder to keep in line with the ADA. So anyways I walk into Dollar General. The employee has no problem with me entering. She watched me do it. I shopped. Got in line to check out. As I was checking out she said "oh next time you refuse to wear a mask I won't let you check out." I said ma'am I have an exemption per the Governor's order and the ADA (both have explicitly clear language saying they cannot ask you to prove any disability). She proceeded to tell me that I had no such exemption and if I wanted to claim one I had to constantly carry around a letter with me from my doctor outlining my diagnosis. Mega ADA violation. So I complained. She got fired. And bonus bit of knowledge the ADA explicitly states that vests are not required for service animals and you are actually encouraged NOT to use a vest in some circumstances. Some states think that because they made a law requiring vests they can enforce it. But Federal law always supersedes state law. And the ADA is Federal Law. Anybody on here who is disabled either mentally or physically i recommend studying up on the ADA and FHA laws and keeping copies of them with you at all times
Legally, management can ask to see papers for the guide dog if there is question of it being a "real" guide dog. Proving a disability is only legal if she was seeking employment I believe but its not illegal to ask about the nature of a disability. The real issue here is less of them asking to prove that she was blind but that an actual ASSAULT happened and security did nothing and even participated. Forget the ADA, going after the guide dog harness is straight up a crime as a guide dog isn't considered a pet and the shopping center should fire the officer and ban the Karen due to the legal issues of that crime happening and being allowed by their staff.
Edit: This Thread Is Getting Long. Just Wanted To Say I Was Speaking Sarcastically. I Have A Disability Myself & Know He Can't Ask Her That. LOL. Pretty sure the security guard has no right to ask her to prove that she's blind.
It's like asking a wheelchair bound person to prove they can't walk. Pretty sure he's not allowed to do that and I would have reported him for that and also for just standing idly while OP was assaulted
@@tidepodpadthai2633 yea but how many people ride those stupid scooters in walmart that can actually walk? Not that I agree with the security guard but there does have to be a way to prove your blind or that the dog has paper work proving it's a guide dog. I remember seeing this lady throwing a fit because her small purse dog, yes it was in her purse, was her comfort dog and pitching a big fit because the store didn't allow her "service animal".
I don't know about that, there must be a someone who is allowed to check for this kind of thing, otherwise anyone could just walk in with their dog pretending to be blind. Maybe something like security manager, or the police if they are called. I assume that blind people with service dogs generaly take their dogs paper with them when they go out, just like they take their own paper. Also I'm surprise the dog didn't try to defend her, isn't it the kind of things that service dogs are trained to do ? protect their human ?
That would be correct. It is against the ADA. You may only ask if the dog is a service dog and what it was trained to do. That’s it. They are under no obligation to prove that they are disabled nor should they. Also, attacking a service dog is a federal crime.
@@michaelcook6288 that lady is full of shit. She was trying to pass a purse dog as an emotional support animal, which does not apply as a service animal. ESA require a special set of papers from a licensed counselor. I know because I helped my husband apply one of our cats as an ESA due to his chronic medical condition.
Store should be contacted. Since the first guard failed his job and they let the woman harass and assault a disabled person, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. Also, press charges for assault and present legal proof of blindness to put her away.
You say you would have done that, but being in that situation, in the moment can be scary and make you panic. Like OP said, it can cause an instinctual feeling of just wanting to get away as fast as possible. I’m not blind, but I’m physically disabled and I’ve had assholes get in my face and yell at me (according to them I’m faking my disability because young people don’t use wheelchairs, don’t use walking canes, and/or don’t use handicap parking tags. So I must be faking it somehow in order to get free money from the government. 🙄) and it’s utterly terrifying. Especially when you’re incapable of running away and you don’t know if this clearly crazy person is going to become violent.
i would at the minimum contact the store to make an official complaint and ask that the guards get trained or i will press charges. It's the store jobs to train their guards to know and follow the law
The blind lady should've just been like "This woman said she was going to shoot me dead in the parking lot," and by that security guard's logic, because she couldn't prove she hadn't said it, guess she must've said it. Right?
That blind person's story was giving ME anxiety just listening to it. There should be a law that allows people to whack humans on the nose with a newspaper in those situations.
The guard broke the law assuming this is in America (basing it on the phrase "shopping" though im assuming European). ADA law states that if you have a service animal you can only ask "is that a service dog" and "what service does the dog provide". You can't ask someone to prove they are disabled, and you really just have to take it as "I have to believe the person claiming to be disabled that they arent lying". It's frustrating yeah I get it, but as a disabled person myself it gets exhausting explaining my disabilities to every person who asks. Especially since I'm 20, and use mobility aids, Karen's pop up a lot.
OMG I think this is such a good idea...lol Karen walks up and starts crap, you pull out the newspaper, whack her on the nose "Bad Karen, go to your cage!"
I just wrote a similar comment saying I started having a panic attack when she wasn't being permitted to leave!!! I started getting the face tingles and I'm still shaking so hard I can barely type, omg. So upsetting.
Second story: op should forget about having the EP arrested, they should sue the mall. It’s illegal to ask someone how they are disabled. If someone tells you the have a disability, you’re legally required to take them at their word. And ADA violations are HUGE deals. Any lawyer would foam at the mouth to take that case.
If you're legally required to take their word for it, however, then this allows people without disabilities to successfully get away with lying about having one for disability benefits, especially if they don't even have to explain how.
@@dyno8man What is with people going "well if some people will abuse X then we might as well not give it to all the people who need it?" Of COURSE people will abuse any sort of kindness but that's not a fucking reason to leave everyone else out in the fucking cold.
@@dyno8man Look, I'll be honest. I don't give a flying fuck that some people might fake disability. The fear that someone might be faking a disability is what causes people to harass people with invisible disabilities for not being "disabled enough." Frankly, I'd rather err on the side of compassion and believe everyone, even if it lets people faking it slide through the cracks.
The story about the blind woman made me sick to my stomach. I have “invisible” disabilities, and I empathize with people feeling like you need to “”prove”” you’re disabled. The fact that she went through that is just. Disgusting. And scary.
I was almost crying during the part of the story where OP started screaming for help as Karen was assaulting her and trying to steal her guide dog as a security guard stood by. Awful, awful people.
Imagine being blind, and having your cousin telling you about how she assulted someone for "lying about being blind". I don't care about blood relations, yet even I would be horrified of being related to that cousin.
I bet Karen hadn't visited her blind cousin in ages. That's assuming she even HAS a blind cousin, and isn't making it up based on stuff she's seen on TV.
EP: "So I called out some bitch for pretending to be blind." Cousin: "Wait, how...?" EP: "Her eyes looked fine, they weren't messed up like yours." Cousin: "Could you please step closer so I can hear you better." (EP obliges, cousin bashes over the head)
Unfortunately happens to a lot of people with health conditions. Relatives or acquaintances they don't even talk to use their story to justify bad behavior. It's a double whammy because, not only do you have to deal with you themselves, but they use your condition like you having it gives them any knowledge of your situation.
That first security guard is SO incompetent and should be fired. His job is security, not a judge. He doesnt have to care who is "right or wrong" just make sure nobody is being harassed. ALSO the double standard. So shes supposed to prove she is blind, but the woman doesnt have to prove that actually has a blind cousin? She should sue to have that loser guard fired. You need to do YOUR JOB not anything else. If someone is reporting harassment, escort them to safety or remove the problem. Its not actually important whether or not the lady knows what she's talking about or if OP is lying because regardless...shes being harassed! The dog thing is only important if you want SOMEONE ELSE to check if its a certified service dog, which you would need to perform without the harassing lady around. "She has a point" is the stupidest and most irrelevant thing ever.
Who even hired him? He seems like a complete idiot. "ShE hAs A pOiNT" made my blood boil. He needs to be fired. Who else has he let get harassed because there was no "proof" of a disability. So incompetent..
I'm hoping that the first security guard was new and inexperienced with these kinds of incidents, it is the only reason as to why I can think he even engaged with the Karen's ideas in the first place. I hope he gets seriously reprimanded for his part in the harassing of a blind woman, all because some Karen can't take "no" as an answer.
@@osmium3691 nobody is talking about it is or isnt real. At either rate anyone who thinks this is unrealistic hasnt met a lot of people. People where im from are generally much worse than this.
The language stories always get to me. I speak English and French, but my grandfather spoke those plus Blackfoot (he was half) when I was like 5 we (along with my grandma) were at a restaurant and speaking in French because my Grandpa wanted to make sure I knew it. This lady came up to us and said speak the language of the land (We live in the States) so my gpa turned to here and started speaking Blackfoot. Unfortunately I don't speak the language nor remember what he said but when he finished with "Was that better" in perfect English the look on that lady's face was priceless.
My dad's got a friend at his work that grew up in Laos and can speak English fairly well but still has a pretty heavy accent. Once another worker was giving him a hard time about not being able to understand his accent, and he goes "Fuck you! You understand that?!"
@@Choujifangirl Not rude at all, The Blackfoot Confederacy is a nation of Blackfoot speaking tribes, I'm, or rather my grandpa, was Siksika (which literally translates to Black foot). From the Alberta/Montana area.
At this point, I feel like a karen would see a group of kids playing Uno, hear one of them call out "UNO!" And then yell at them because "This is America, speak english!"
The blind woman story: besides the Entitled Mother deserving to be arrested, the first security guard should be fired. Not only he broke ADA's rules as other comments pointed out, even if OP was faking to be blind (which she wasn't), the moment EM grabbed her harness, that's physical assault. OP faking it or not, his job was to stop EM; OP was lucky there was another security guard around who actually knew his job. Also, why I feel EM called the first security guard because she know him somehow, and wanted someone who would support her bs?
I'm sorry if I'm singling out disabled people (even though I am one), but it seems like the disabled need to have a type of panic button as a means of calling for help against these kinds of attacks. At the very least, he should make a very annoying sound that will continue to repeat until the harrassment stops. I bet the latter would be so satisfying.
Often the police are very uneducated when it comes to disabled people as well. Those of us that are disabled aren’t always better off calling the cops than just leaving the situation. Unfortunately, it’s far too common that police can make situations like this worse, not better. Especially when you’re dealing with a Karen that’s willing to lie to make herself look like the victim or the righteous one.
i might be ignorant but i have one little question, how did op post the story if they couldn't see, and browse through reddit, like there's a few ideas but i honestly just want to know the real answer.
The best part about the blind person is that, depending on the state, interfering with a service dog is either a misdemeanor or felony, call the police.
The story of the blind girl was giving me so much anxiety that I had to take a break afterwards. Thats the mark of a well written and well narrated story. I was totally immersed.
when I heard about an Italian grandmother being yelled at by that karen I honestly braced myself for the worst, ready for a sequence of beeped out blasphemies in typical Italian fashion it's honestly pretty hilarious cause blasphemies are pretty common here in Italy [especially in Veneto where I live, we're literally known in the whole country for how much we curse] but in any other country it would be so shocking-
i work in security and this guard in the blind person story needs to move the other person along. It does not matter what condition someone has nor do they have to prove it to anyone at that level. What you do see is a woman badgering a blind person who has now raised a complaint about a behavior you have now witnessed. Asking for detailed medical histories or "proving" they have a condition is a gross overstepping of personal boundaries and I wouldn't have a guard working under me that acted this way.
I worked as a security guard for years. Guards often fall into one of two categories: 1. People doing entry-level jobs while they go to school or are trying to get a different job. (Or are working another job but need a few more hours a week.) 2. People who failed to become a police officer for one reason or another, or retired military or police officers. Either way, they're real mad that they aren't police or military and overuse the power they think they have on everyone they can.
This story got me curious, are security guards allowed to like check for papers allowing exceptions to the rules, like in the service dog situation for exemple. I mean, part of your job is to make sure people are following the establishment rules, and there must be some kind of control to do in those situations ? Like checking the dogs paper or something. Otherwise everyone would be able to come in with a dog claiming it's a service dog even though it's not, and I'm sure a lot of people would do that if it was just based on what they tell. I'm not defending the incompetent security guard of the story, it's just curiosity. It's pretty obvious that the guy should have first prioritize the safety of the person who was minding their own buisness and very clearly being attacked (even if just verbaly).
@Myha It's not a perfect system, but yes people can claim whatever they want and not have to validate themselves, even if its obvious they're lying. Like someone saying they're blind and their dog is a service animal even though it's both aggressive and on a normal leash, and the person is complaining about a typo on a sign. Asking for paperwork you just can't do. Even at the disability advocacy center I go to, they say "If you identify as disabled, you can get our services". You don't need a disability. Just say you are. And they will never ask what disability you have. They can't. In regards to the blind person being attacked, the guard can't intervene except by yelling at them. Their job is to call the cops. Even putting your hand, without touching someone, in between the two so they back off on their own isn't allowed because they could sue and say you hit them, and there aren't enough camera angles to prove them a liar.
@@MindokInAh The only thing you’re allowed to ask about a service dog is: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? You cannot ask for proof of a disability or even what the person’s disability is under the ADA. If the dog is well-behaved, wearing a vest, and/or actively performing a task, you can usually just tell if they are a service dog or not. Yes, people can buy vests that say “service dog/emotional support animal” but usually the behavior of the dog gives away people trying to cheat the system. At that point, if the dog is being disruptive, you can ask the person to leave based on the dog’s behavior. You don’t even have to bring up their possible disability.
People actually do this. Not all of us that use wheelchairs have paralysis, so Karens will come up to us and yell at us for “faking” a disability because they saw us shift our legs or stand up for a moment. They’ll demand that we prove that we’re paralyzed and if we “admit” that we’re not, they freak out like they’ve caught a murderer red-handed. In extreme cases they’ll try to take the wheelchair, resulting in injury to the wheelchair user. I’ve never had one of them try to take my chair, but I’ve had them yell at me for “faking” and supposedly stealing their tax dollars by collecting disability payments by faking a disability. Despite the fact that I don’t get any kind of disability payments.
@@Annie_Annie__ when I had surgery a few years ago and first started going out, it would wear me out for the rest of the day. So I'd use those scooters in store. It felt awkward, bc when I was done, id just park it by the front, hop off and walk to the car. Fortunately, I didnt have jerks but was prepared for that discussion. And try to keep my eyes and ears to support/defend those who do need things like canes, service animals or wheelchairs.
i think part of the "being cursed out in another language" that feels worse is that you can tell that they're pissed, they're saying words loudly, and you don't know what it means. they could be just calling you an asshole, OR they could be telling you your wife is a cow and you have the body build of a withered corpse. the uncertainty is what i think makes it hurt more
also, some languages have some BRUTAL swearing that flows out the tongue so much that the hand of satan himself would pick up the mic for you after you drop it (after he finishes the soup you prepared) 🤣
I want to learn compliments and kind words in other languages and shout them at people who anger me. See if it has the same affect while bringing positivity to others around.
@@SerenaSilverMoon Amazingly enough, he said it right. He just missed one letter. The Č in kučko (č is pronounced as ch in, e.g., chain, choke, cheat, etc.). So the whole sentence is pronounced something like: tee veh-lee-ka kooch-kaw
As someone who is legally blind, I feel I will have many run-ins with entitled parents once I get a service dog. I was hesitant to get one but a few months ago my leg was broken after getting but by a car, u didn't see so had an "eye opening" moment where I realized u actually do need one lol
Yeah, and a disturbing amount of police officers are really just psychopaths with a murderhobo license. Please try to keep your service animal safe when you get one. Also did you know you can actually get a "seeing eye horse"? Miniature horses can be seeing-eye animals too.
@@1-upking119 legally blind usually means they can see, but have such poor eyesight to the point where they can’t drive, stuff like that. even if they were completely blind though, screen readers usually tell you what key you’re pressing on the keyboard
Yeah I feel you. I am legally blind as well, and I’m waiting to be matched with a guide dog at the moment. I was advised to memorize the ADA laws in case people get difficult about my dog being allowed certain places or to do certain things. I feel like those situations will probably be pretty frustrating, but overall I am really excited to get a guide dog, as I know that it will be super beneficial to my independence. I hope everything works out for you. 😸
The first story had a small update. Karen called cps claimed that op was abusing the baby and tried to convince cps to get a court mandated c section to save the baby from op. She also lied on Facebook about op giving her the baby then her and family after finding out she wasn't. Called her every name under the sun until she blocked her.
for the story with the blind girl: that security guard should be sued, and the woman should be arrested. that story was... sickening to say the least. that woman is awful for using a blind family member as an excuse to harass blind people, and that security guard is so awful for asking OP to prove that she's blind.
That security guard performed so many ADA violations, you can hear the lawyers salivate over this case. It's open and shut against the mall for having the security guard act in that manner. $75k+
I will never understand the thought of a “complete family”. I swear some people think an adult man and woman being in proximity to kids automatically makes them Parents of the Year. I’d love to hear what the blind cousin had to say to that Karen when she recounted harassing a blind woman. Also, I second that. It’s honestly one of my life’s goals to learn as many foreign curse words as I can.
@@nenmaster5218 What that security guard did broke ADA regulations by demanding she prove she's blind. We're talking the mall owing $75k+ if they're found responsible (which they are). You can hear all the lawyers drooling.
@@sintanan469 I look into that Regal Legal Eagle then, but yeah, that's not who i meant. I meant the TH-camr. The 1 who made Collabs with Tier Zoo as well as Hbomberguy; who are also high-quality and very funny TH-camrs.
Had I witnessed that incident in the blind OP's story, I would've done a better job than the first guard to get that nasty woman off OP. The way that the guard was trying so hard to play goody two-shoes and going as far as to ignore OP's pleads to just have her removed disgusted me. I sure hope these aren't the kind of stunts that Karens get away with on a regular basis, because that's just putting a bad image on the corporations that does and will probably lose them business from honest patrons and consumers, as they rightfully should. If a business sacrifices morals in hopes of saving face, they have no more room to run a business than those who don't pay or mistreats their own employees. I'm honestly not surprised how disabled people often gets mistreated like this. Between self-righteous entitled people and the lack of accessibility in many modern architectures and infrastructure, there's plenty of things that will make their lives a living hell. I hope OP can find and move to another place that cares about their disabled population, because wherever she lives right now sounds like an entitled hell-hole.
YES RSLASH! Please post more of these blind situations stories This kind of situation happens at least 3 times a week to every single blind person I know! My opinion is that they should start actually posting the name of the restaurant/mall/store that does that, but they haven’t quite yet. Please post more to spread about it
That security guard needs to be disciplined, doesn’t matter if the person can prove their disability or not just the fact that they have a guide dog with them means no interference period. For all they know that dog could have been in training
Being reprimanded or cussed out in a foreign language definitely hits harder. My mom’s side of the family speaks English and Spanish (honestly, more Spanglish than actual Spanish) but we were all raised to know that when Nana or Tia (auntie) spoke to you in proper Spanish, you did something very wrong.
Ikr i mean I am Serbian and if i would hear someone say fuck you to me that would not be so bad,but if someone said "Jebi se"(fuck you in Serbian)that would be much worse.
My dads side is Ukrainian and when my dad would piss off my Baba (grandma) she would curse him out in Russian. That’s where I learned my Russian swear words. I was never on the receiving end of it but my dad was
@@notalikeableperson961 ya it always has much more emotion, intent and a bit of shock value. at least from what ik, which isnt much since ive at most heard it from only a few movies or comedians. :)
i think for single language/english only speakers its partly cuz of the fear of the unkown and for some its like ur literally being cursed, not just cussed at. we fear what we know much less. love craft horror is the best example of this. :)
That security guard should have been fired. I worked as a sheriff for many years. You cannot ask for proof if someone is disabled. Good way to get sued. If I was her I would have taken that security company to court.
The lady at 1:40 seems like she would trick a young teen into going to a pregnancy crisis center, force her to give birth and take the baby and do it again when it grows up
As a blind person that 2nd story triggered me so much. We face this kind of ignorance and discrimination on a constant basis. In the story OP talked about how some blind people have something physically wrong with their eyes and I'm one of those people and I was still accused of not being blind just because I got around a place too well . So we can't win either way and I realized how stupid people can be sometimes..
@@Mizukisu_ I use a screen reader on all of my devices that reads out everything on the screen to me out loud and how I type things out detepends on what device I'm using. I'm currently using my phone and dictate to type this out.
Blind or not a service dog is protected and he had no right to question her at all about her disability. It doesn't matter who was "right" in the situation and he should have done his job and gotten the Karen away from her when she asked instead of helping her harass OP! Rent a cops get a high off their powers over people even when it amounts to nothing at the end of the day.
@@ShadowEclipse777 as a service dog handler, most people are really ignorant. i have so many stories of entitled people and parents but haven't posted any since its basically like a daily thing. people will always ask invasive questions or think hes actually not mine cause i dont look disabled or arent blind (my boy is medical alert) many employees, security guards and even cops dont properly know the ADA law (im in the US) and so it makes it really frustrating.
@@tidepodpadthai2633 likely it was. Or at the very least, the cousin either doesn't know Karen, or doesn't talk to Karen. I with OP the best and I hope we can stop ignorance about blind and other disabled people from existing in the future.
I hope that security guard was fired. They had no right to ask those questions and why he even thought it was his job to see which woman was lying is beyond me.
If I was watching the incident, I'd walk up to the lady and tell her to leave OP alone as it's none of her business if she's disabled or not and if she said no then leave her alone. And that her child is acting more mature than you.
That first guard was worthless, and I hope got fired! And people saying she should have papers proving she is blind? Really? You really think she should carry that with her wherever she goes?
I can't help but remember a story I read a while ago where a Karen (or the male variant) tried the "speak English" line at a pair of women, and they just... switched to English, and loudly continued a conversation about mensural cycles, flow, blood and sanitary items. If I recall correctly, the Karen was absolutely horrified. Obviously, such subject matters aren't taboo to adults, but this Karen was quite the pearl clutcher.
It wouldn't have been assault, It would most likely have been knocked down to battery two. also, it doesnt matter that OP was a lady or not, ya benevolent sexist.
Usually i'm against hitting a woman unless it's for self defense but the Karen that harrased the blind lady in the second story tempted me to make an exception with her.
Modern women are trying really hard to unwrite those rules. Especially these Karens. Many of them need to be hit, like the one from the second story harassing the blind girl. Soon men will just forget about the “we’re not supposed to” thing and start treating them with true equality
@@frankthetank4986 Good point but remember that not all modern women are like this, i can tell you from experience with my mother, my sister, my aunts, my little cousins and many of my friends who are girls as well.
What's even worse than getting cursed out in another language? It's when the British use simple words with such anger that it seems more like being cursed out than anything. Like a mad British person could call me a stupid carrot & that would feel worse than being called an actual swear word in English.
The guard from the blind story needs to be fired he was breaking every single American with disabilities act rules there is you legally cannot ask someone to prove their disability it is illegal what he should’ve done was told Karen to mind her business and leave op alone which is his only job kudos to the second guard for jumping in and doing his job as a disabled woman it warms my heart
As a visually impaired person it's awful to hear those experiences occur often. I can see well enough to manage on my own but in my country you can get a card basically telling you're visually impaired or blind. It doesn't specify much, but shows how "bad" the disability is. They come handy in a lot of places. Easy way to prove I may need assistance for example in a swimming pool where I won't use my glasses for example.
As a legally blind person, the whole “I know a blind person so I know what blind people look like/act like etc.” is just soooo infuriating. Blindness is a spectrum, so only about 10% of us are totally blind. The rest of us have varying degrees of usable vision (for example, I can read print as long as it is large enough and/or close enough and there is nothing that can correct my vision to better than 20/200). There are many different causes of vision loss. Some are from birth, some happen suddenly due to an illness or accident, some are degenerative and a person will slowly lose their vision over time.. unfortunately, the media has perpetuated a stereotypical “blind person look”, So a lot of people assume that we are all supposed to look like that. Some of us do, but most of us don’t. Many of us can look like anyone else most of the time, so we get to deal with hearing “you don’t look blind” on a regular basis. By the way, for those wondering, blind people do use smart phones, tablets, watches etc. They are all equipped with accessible technology. Someone who is totally blind can still do things like read and reply to comments. That’s another lovely thing we get to deal with... the whole “If you’re blind, how did you read my comment/how can you type?” “Did your dog type that for you?” etc. really gets old, (I should add that when people ask how we do things like read and reply to comments in a polite respectable way, that’s just fine. Most of us are very happy to educate people. Unfortunately though, It is often asked in a way where it is clear the person is accusing us of faking.) For anyone interested, there are some great blind people with TH-cam channels that make videos to educate people about blindness, guide dogs, technology etc. the most well known is Molly Burke. But there are others like Joy Ross, Cayla with a C, Blind Girl Vlogs, How Casey Sees It just to name a few.
Even the polite people get annoying after a while I understand it's not their fault they don't understand but it just gets so tiring answering the same question over and over and over again it's always the first question anyone asks After while I eventually just decided to say screw it and just wrote out the answers I tend to give in what amounts with q&a on my about page of my profile so that anyone who wanted to ask could just go look there and I wouldn't have to keep saying it over and over and over again
Wait, so, if one is blind so to speak, how does the typing work with smartphones and whatnot? Is it like a special smartphone or something kinda similar to Braille? Sorry if it sounds odd, I’m just trying to understand a bit is all
@@tailbolt8483 Accessibility features are built into all smart devices. If you go into your settings and look for “accessibility“, you will see a list of options for visual as well as other physical impairments. For the whole typing thing, if you’re using a keyboard you learn how to touch typel. The best typists in the world are taught never to look at the keyboard, so it’s not a big stretch to learn how to memorize the keyboard when you can’t see it. As a matter of fact, many blind people have had careers as transcribers in the medical and other fields, typing out audio recordings. With phones and tablets, there is voice to text technology where you dictate what you want to write, and you can include punctuation, emojis etc. The device will also read whatever you want it to out loud. You can even edit what you were trying to say, correct spelling errors etc. Some of the blind TH-camrs that I mentioned have tutorials about how this works. The thing that always cracks me up is people are so shocked that this technology exists for us, but you guys use voice commands all the time with your devices, asking directions, ordering laundry detergent etc., so we don’t understand why it’s such a stretch for so many people to realize that voice commands work for blind people! Lol. If you do a search on TH-cam for “how does a blind person use a smart phone“, you will actually get a great list of videos you can watch that should answer any of your questions. I really hope this helps you understand.
The grandma in the last story (the comment story) is awesome. She takes crap from no one and really knows how to literally tell someone to screw off. She's an inspiration to all of us.
The security guard really shouldnt have conducted themselves the way they did. Even IF she can’t prove she’s blind, she has a right not to be harassed/verbally assaulted.
About getting cursed out in a different language: My girlfriend is Italian and I have friends from Romania. They can get VERY creative when they curse people out 😂
what's funny to me about that last story is the fact that the USA don't have an official language, most states just use english as their main language because that's spoken the most. So basically the entitled B word is wrong no matter what. also the story about the blindgirl boiled my blood as where my grandma was blind and the fact that the entitled b word used her own family member as one excuse to harrass her is so sickening i can't imagine being such a lowlife person...
which is funny because if a karen (from here or anywhere else *looks intensively at the USA) would say stuff like that most of us would belike ohh sorry didn't you finish elementary or highschool?
The blind person story made me so mad, the lady should have been arrested but the security guard should have also been held accountable! He let that lady physically assault op!
The lady with the seeing eye dog she does not have to prove she has a disability. In Canada and in the States and in most of Europe they have no right to ask you those questions. The store could be sued for discrimination by asking these questions. And you know what they damn well should be they have no right to encourage this behavior in this behavior and this crazy entitled parent. If the security guard is unsure of the laws surrounding this he should get management. If I was this lady I would press charges on the store and on the woman she is no right to do what she did. Feel terrible that people with service animals have to put up with this silly nonsense. Edit it to add it wouldn't matter if it was a service animal or not if someone tells you no you can't pet my dog the answer is no. Just because you have children and you ask nicely for something or demand it doesn't mean you get it. Sorry the story just has made me so mad.
That's what I was thinking. When a pet owner says no to petting their dog, there shouldn't be anything left to discuss or prrof or for the Security Guard to be "unsure who to believe".
As a blind person, it's illegal to ask a disabled person to prove their disability. Also, there are plenty of ways to use technology as a blind person. This is insane
Op can actually sue the store for not protecting a disabled patron. That first security guard did nothing to provide a safe environment and actively doubted her disability. That is actually lawsuit material
Everyone knows being blind is a real thing. Everyone knows that sometimes dogs are seeing-eye dogs. To automatically assume someone is lying about this very realistic situation alone is absurd. To get aggressive about it is beyond absurd. Edit: That woman absolutely should've called the police.
14:59 Judging by her logic "if you speak Serbian you should go back to Serbia", then why doesn't she go back to England if she speaks English? What kind of logic is this?
the other thing that bothers me about the guide dog story is OP already told thhe security guard that they have proof that it's a licensed service dog. So regardless of if OP is blind or not the security guard just needed to see those papers and thats all they need to tell them the mother cant pet the dog, not even regarding con sent it doesnt matter if OP was blind or not, the dog being a service animal for any reason is reason to lead the EM away
That blind person story. Asking anything more than 'is this a service dog?' and 'what task does the dog perform.' is completely illegal. That blind guy should sue.
Seconding. I'm a service dog handler of 14 years, currently training a guide dog for the deaf. The person is in no way required to disclose a thing about their disability, but the second question exists for a reason. If you asked me those questions, the answers are, respectively, "yes" and "She's training to detect sounds like fire alarms, timers, potential hazards like forklifts, and more that I cannot detect. She's also task-trained to block me from people who are getting too close without my knowledge." These are legitimate service dog tasks (but not even scratching the surface of possible tasks!) and answers the question without disclosing more than that I am hearing impaired.
I'm so surprised no one actually punches the entitled people in the face EVER i swear if someone tries to steal my dog or something they wouldn't walk out of it in one piece
My mother is a Karen, and there was a conversation I had with her. I told her that my tinnitus was acting up and I couldn't hear a certain thing at the time because of it. She didn't know what tinnitus was. I said, "You know when someone hits you in the head or face really hard and there's a ringing in your ears?" She said she'd never been hit by anyone. It made so much sense to me.
My dad was blind, the best way to tell if someone is blind is how their eyes focus. Usually their eyes don't fully focus in what they are looking at. Even then! I've met a few blind people whose eyes do focus because of what amount they can perceive. So that lady was not only dumb but crazy.
if that security guard believed the EM when she said she had a blind cousin, and asked OP for proof she was blind, shouldn’t he also ask the EM for proof her cousin is blind?
I read the second story on reddit the day it was posted and i said it then and i'll say it now: The security guard even asking her why she has a guide dog is already illegal, asking someone to prove their disability is also illegal. No one appart from your doctors are allowed to know your medical infos. Obviously someone being blind or in a wheelchair, people see it (even though OP sadly seems to have a lot of issues with people asking questions they shouldn't and many people even visibly handicap get denied their rights, especially with dogs) but it gets really bad with invisible illness. If someone says: i'm disabled, i have a trained service dog there's no follow up needed, no questions to be asked even from security guards. Just move on and tell Karen " this person say they're blind/disabled it's none of your business if you think otherwise, stop harassing them or you will be removed" that's it. If i remember well i told OP she needed to contact the store, because those guards need serious training.
There's so much wrong with that second story... Though I did chuckle when Karen said 'The dog isn't real!' like it is some kind of Boston dynamics robot or materialized spirit dog.
That second story left me fuming. My mother is blind, and if someone ever did that to her, I'm not exaggerating when I say that I would strangle them, consequences be damned.
As a blind person I can attest to this being very common. It's shocking how ignorant some people are. It's like we have to run into stuff and trip all over the place just to prove we can't see.
As a visually impaired person myself, I find it quite strange that some blind people seem to say that they have bad occurrences on a daily basis. Then there are people like me, who fear that kind of interaction on a daily basis, and it never happens to those of us who want it to happen to us so we can put people in their places! 😂 I've been hoping to run into a Karen for a while, I have yet to find one LOL, yes I'm terrified, but I also wanted to happen at the same time if that makes sense
That first story: OP should have sued the restaurant and the Karen. Also, idegaf if it’s a service dog or not, if someone says don’t touch my pet/service dog, then DONT TOUCH THEIR PET.
I hope that blind lady sues the hell out of that store. Asking for "proof" of disability is a violation of the ADA.
exactly what i was thinking!
@@lacie8407 great minds think alike!
I would definitely take them to court, and make sure tht first guard loses his job
Wow, that S-Guard was very useless.
She should have reported him if nothing else he needed to be fired. He had no right to ask her to “prove it” and for what just so the kid could pet a dog?? WTF if the dog attacked someone then MAYBE she could be questioned a little but even then prob not. But the dog ddi NOTHING the lady just wanted to prove she was right about the girl not being blind and have her kid pet the dog the guard escalating things further for something stupid he should be fired for its a big liability for the mall too
"No, you can't pet my dog.
Hes working his job."
Funny, how a child understands this, but not an adult
I've had small children actually stop their mothers from petting my service dog.
@@klepow That's depressing. And Yet the adults should be the smarter ones. SMH
In a sense, I think the mother was only pretending to be an adult.
When I was a kid, my mom taught me and my sister to never mess with service dogs when they're on duty. After that, a lady with a service dog got my mom's attention and thanked her for teaching us to be respectful. My sister and I are older now and that's still stuck with us to this day. Now when we see service dogs, we leave them alone
@@vergilthewolf3619 I don't think it's depressing. It means that at least they are teaching kids in school how to behave around service dogs. There are plenty of things that parents depend on their children to know. My mother still talks about "sending a letter on the computer". She means email.
And that first security guard should've lost his job for this. The fact that he ALLOWED KAREN TO GRAB THE HARNESS AND DIDN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT was an absolute show of incompetence.
I wish that was the case. I used to be a guard. The client company won't let guards physically interact with anyone due to fear of being sued. The company wants the target of the sue to be the Karen.
Like when I was a guard, my partner got fired for stopping a thief. The thief grabbed some booze and ran for the door, but my partner grabbed his jacket and kept him from escaping for a little less than a minute, long enough for the male employees of the store to block the door themselves, and the cops got there pretty quickly.
Cost of potentially stolen goods: $100
Cost of company being sued for injury from guard: $thousands
So let the thief get away. Those were our orders.
@@ViirinSoftworks it was too late for that. His collosal f-up by asking her if she could prove she was blind was already more than enough to bring a lawsuit against the company for ADA violations. One that would likely be much more costly than had he removed the Karen's grip.
@@luke6612 Totally agreed on all counts. I just wanted to say how I was trained as a security guard, in case anyone wondered why guards allow obvious thieves to steal and do nothing.
@@ViirinSoftworks That's some of the dumbest goddamn shit I've ever read. What's the point of having security in a place if they're not allowed to actually secure anything? It shouldn't be allowed for a criminal, in the middle of committing a crime, to sue anybody for anything. That's just another bit of utter idiocy in the US legal system.
@@ViirinSoftworks the fact a thief can sue for being hurt during a robbery fucking ridiculous
Security guard 1 needs to be fired for incompetence. As a security guard myself, that was an embarrassing level of stupid. He should have shut Karen down long before it got to where it did.
same here. We should try to deescalate situations and no means no.
I don't like confrontation, but I'd chew him up for being so a useless guard and call the dispatcher to get him out of that area and work at a construction site to look at the materials. Same IQ level as the surrounding bricks.
coz its fake
@@Saint0- how so?
He wanted to enjoy the Karen's drama
So he went along with that I guess
You can be surprised at how... persistent some people are to the point you go along with what they're demanding just to make them shut up and get this confrontation over with. But the guard asking OP to prove they're blind is a whole new level of no
On the guide dog story, throughout its reading I kept thinking the same way as rSlash pointed out at the end. When a dog owner tells you no, you can't pet my dog, that's it. End of discussion. The security guard was totally useless, and should have just asked Karen to stop pestering customers from the get go.
This is only one part of the issue but totally agree about petting dogs you don’t know. You ask the owner, if they say yes hold out your hand for the dog to sniff and only pat if the dog acts interested. If either these is a no, that’s it.
also, according to the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the security guard cannot ask anything about her disability, including for her to prove her disability.
And often times they say no for various reasons. Like what if the dog doesn't like being petted by strangers and they respond by biting?
The security guard should lose his job or at least get a "last chance" warning
The security gaurd so p!$sed me off. How can somebody be that stupid.
That security guard should be immediately fired. Under the Americans with Disabilities Act it is illegal for any business or their representatives to ask you to prove you are blind or to even prove your dog is trained. They have 2 questions and only 2 questions they can legally ask. 1. Are you disabled (if your disability isn't immediately obvious) and 2. Is your dog specifically trained to help you with any aspect of your disability. Those are literally the only 2 questions legally allowed to be asked. And it surprises me that more businesses don't educate their employees on the ADA considering ADA violation lawsuits are historically some of the most expensive lawsuits a business can face. I would know. I have been disabled my whole life. Its annoying how few people actually know the law
These stories always make me so angry. I wanted to punch the security guard. I guess it's a good thing OP didn't mention the store cuz people would have flamed it to nonexistance
I thought the first one was "Is that a service dog?" And the second was "Waht task is it trained to perform" I thought that businesses couldn't ask someone if they were disabled because it's a violation of some sort.
so it's free business opprtunity
@@NekoKuro-il8rz they can ask you if you are disabled. They cannot ask you what your specific diagnosis is or to prove your disability to them. I had a Dollar General employee learn that the hard way when I accidentally got her fired for reporting her to DG corporate HQ. I had just moved out to North Carolina in June. This happened around mid July. Governor Roy Cooper had issued a mask mandate for all of NC because of Covid. But a specific exception to the mandate was if you had any physical, mental, or emotional disability or disorder to keep in line with the ADA. So anyways I walk into Dollar General. The employee has no problem with me entering. She watched me do it. I shopped. Got in line to check out. As I was checking out she said "oh next time you refuse to wear a mask I won't let you check out." I said ma'am I have an exemption per the Governor's order and the ADA (both have explicitly clear language saying they cannot ask you to prove any disability). She proceeded to tell me that I had no such exemption and if I wanted to claim one I had to constantly carry around a letter with me from my doctor outlining my diagnosis. Mega ADA violation. So I complained. She got fired. And bonus bit of knowledge the ADA explicitly states that vests are not required for service animals and you are actually encouraged NOT to use a vest in some circumstances. Some states think that because they made a law requiring vests they can enforce it. But Federal law always supersedes state law. And the ADA is Federal Law. Anybody on here who is disabled either mentally or physically i recommend studying up on the ADA and FHA laws and keeping copies of them with you at all times
Legally, management can ask to see papers for the guide dog if there is question of it being a "real" guide dog. Proving a disability is only legal if she was seeking employment I believe but its not illegal to ask about the nature of a disability. The real issue here is less of them asking to prove that she was blind but that an actual ASSAULT happened and security did nothing and even participated. Forget the ADA, going after the guide dog harness is straight up a crime as a guide dog isn't considered a pet and the shopping center should fire the officer and ban the Karen due to the legal issues of that crime happening and being allowed by their staff.
Edit: This Thread Is Getting Long. Just Wanted To Say I Was Speaking Sarcastically. I Have A Disability Myself & Know He Can't Ask Her That. LOL.
Pretty sure the security guard has no right to ask her to prove that she's blind.
It's like asking a wheelchair bound person to prove they can't walk. Pretty sure he's not allowed to do that and I would have reported him for that and also for just standing idly while OP was assaulted
@@tidepodpadthai2633 yea but how many people ride those stupid scooters in walmart that can actually walk? Not that I agree with the security guard but there does have to be a way to prove your blind or that the dog has paper work proving it's a guide dog. I remember seeing this lady throwing a fit because her small purse dog, yes it was in her purse, was her comfort dog and pitching a big fit because the store didn't allow her "service animal".
I don't know about that, there must be a someone who is allowed to check for this kind of thing, otherwise anyone could just walk in with their dog pretending to be blind. Maybe something like security manager, or the police if they are called. I assume that blind people with service dogs generaly take their dogs paper with them when they go out, just like they take their own paper.
Also I'm surprise the dog didn't try to defend her, isn't it the kind of things that service dogs are trained to do ? protect their human ?
That would be correct. It is against the ADA. You may only ask if the dog is a service dog and what it was trained to do. That’s it. They are under no obligation to prove that they are disabled nor should they. Also, attacking a service dog is a federal crime.
@@michaelcook6288 that lady is full of shit. She was trying to pass a purse dog as an emotional support animal, which does not apply as a service animal. ESA require a special set of papers from a licensed counselor. I know because I helped my husband apply one of our cats as an ESA due to his chronic medical condition.
I would have had the karen arrested and took that security guard to court for failing to protect a disabled patron.
Same
Store should be contacted. Since the first guard failed his job and they let the woman harass and assault a disabled person, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. Also, press charges for assault and present legal proof of blindness to put her away.
@@johngennaria Exactly.
You say you would have done that, but being in that situation, in the moment can be scary and make you panic. Like OP said, it can cause an instinctual feeling of just wanting to get away as fast as possible.
I’m not blind, but I’m physically disabled and I’ve had assholes get in my face and yell at me (according to them I’m faking my disability because young people don’t use wheelchairs, don’t use walking canes, and/or don’t use handicap parking tags. So I must be faking it somehow in order to get free money from the government. 🙄) and it’s utterly terrifying.
Especially when you’re incapable of running away and you don’t know if this clearly crazy person is going to become violent.
i would at the minimum contact the store to make an official complaint and ask that the guards get trained or i will press charges. It's the store jobs to train their guards to know and follow the law
Em: "No! She's not blind! The dog isn't real!"
Hold up-
Me:(pulls the crazy lady away from OP) And I guess your brain isn’t real either.
Exactly!!! My first thought was... So is the dog really a cat dressed like a dog? Or maybe a robot?
The universe is a hologram, but gold byyyyyyyyyyye!
How can dogs be real if her eyes aren’t real?
she proaly ment the dog isin't a real support dog, but its funny to think she is saying the dog dosent exsist!
The story of the blind OP made me legit angry listening to this person being assaulted and the security guard did nothing. Absolutely criminal.
The blind lady should've just been like "This woman said she was going to shoot me dead in the parking lot," and by that security guard's logic, because she couldn't prove she hadn't said it, guess she must've said it. Right?
And I know because I've heard shooters before so I know what shooters sound like.
@@Var_Will My mom’s cousin’s sister in law’s pet goldfish is a shooter
That blind person's story was giving ME anxiety just listening to it. There should be a law that allows people to whack humans on the nose with a newspaper in those situations.
The guard broke the law assuming this is in America (basing it on the phrase "shopping" though im assuming European). ADA law states that if you have a service animal you can only ask "is that a service dog" and "what service does the dog provide". You can't ask someone to prove they are disabled, and you really just have to take it as "I have to believe the person claiming to be disabled that they arent lying". It's frustrating yeah I get it, but as a disabled person myself it gets exhausting explaining my disabilities to every person who asks. Especially since I'm 20, and use mobility aids, Karen's pop up a lot.
OMG I think this is such a good idea...lol Karen walks up and starts crap, you pull out the newspaper, whack her on the nose "Bad Karen, go to your cage!"
I just wrote a similar comment saying I started having a panic attack when she wasn't being permitted to leave!!! I started getting the face tingles and I'm still shaking so hard I can barely type, omg. So upsetting.
@@sukuyanthefallen6419 or rather, "NO, Karen. NO. PLAY DEAD."
That Karen assaulted OP. If OP had defended herself, say by whacking Karen with a newspaper, that would've been legally fine
Second story: op should forget about having the EP arrested, they should sue the mall. It’s illegal to ask someone how they are disabled. If someone tells you the have a disability, you’re legally required to take them at their word. And ADA violations are HUGE deals. Any lawyer would foam at the mouth to take that case.
If you're legally required to take their word for it, however, then this allows people without disabilities to successfully get away with lying about having one for disability benefits, especially if they don't even have to explain how.
@@dyno8man What is with people going "well if some people will abuse X then we might as well not give it to all the people who need it?" Of COURSE people will abuse any sort of kindness but that's not a fucking reason to leave everyone else out in the fucking cold.
@@goldencyclone4984 I didn't say leave everyone in the cold
@@dyno8man Look, I'll be honest. I don't give a flying fuck that some people might fake disability. The fear that someone might be faking a disability is what causes people to harass people with invisible disabilities for not being "disabled enough." Frankly, I'd rather err on the side of compassion and believe everyone, even if it lets people faking it slide through the cracks.
You can tell them that they have their user in the corner
The story about the blind woman made me sick to my stomach. I have “invisible” disabilities, and I empathize with people feeling like you need to “”prove”” you’re disabled. The fact that she went through that is just. Disgusting. And scary.
I was almost crying during the part of the story where OP started screaming for help as Karen was assaulting her and trying to steal her guide dog as a security guard stood by. Awful, awful people.
Imagine being blind, and having your cousin telling you about how she assulted someone for "lying about being blind". I don't care about blood relations, yet even I would be horrified of being related to that cousin.
The cousin probably pretends she’s deaf now so she doesn’t have to listen to her any more.
I bet Karen hadn't visited her blind cousin in ages. That's assuming she even HAS a blind cousin, and isn't making it up based on stuff she's seen on TV.
EP: "So I called out some bitch for pretending to be blind."
Cousin: "Wait, how...?"
EP: "Her eyes looked fine, they weren't messed up like yours."
Cousin: "Could you please step closer so I can hear you better."
(EP obliges, cousin bashes over the head)
Unfortunately happens to a lot of people with health conditions. Relatives or acquaintances they don't even talk to use their story to justify bad behavior. It's a double whammy because, not only do you have to deal with you themselves, but they use your condition like you having it gives them any knowledge of your situation.
That first security guard is SO incompetent and should be fired. His job is security, not a judge. He doesnt have to care who is "right or wrong" just make sure nobody is being harassed. ALSO the double standard. So shes supposed to prove she is blind, but the woman doesnt have to prove that actually has a blind cousin? She should sue to have that loser guard fired. You need to do YOUR JOB not anything else. If someone is reporting harassment, escort them to safety or remove the problem. Its not actually important whether or not the lady knows what she's talking about or if OP is lying because regardless...shes being harassed!
The dog thing is only important if you want SOMEONE ELSE to check if its a certified service dog, which you would need to perform without the harassing lady around. "She has a point" is the stupidest and most irrelevant thing ever.
Who even hired him? He seems like a complete idiot. "ShE hAs A pOiNT" made my blood boil. He needs to be fired. Who else has he let get harassed because there was no "proof" of a disability. So incompetent..
It's illegal to ask to prove you're disabled as well. Should definitely be fired.
I'm hoping that the first security guard was new and inexperienced with these kinds of incidents, it is the only reason as to why I can think he even engaged with the Karen's ideas in the first place.
I hope he gets seriously reprimanded for his part in the harassing of a blind woman, all because some Karen can't take "no" as an answer.
That's because the story isn't real. It's pretty obviously made up
@@osmium3691 nobody is talking about it is or isnt real. At either rate anyone who thinks this is unrealistic hasnt met a lot of people. People where im from are generally much worse than this.
Karens have officially hit a new low
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Oh believe me whenever we think they've taken things too far, they somehow find a way to make it worse
The language stories always get to me. I speak English and French, but my grandfather spoke those plus Blackfoot (he was half) when I was like 5 we (along with my grandma) were at a restaurant and speaking in French because my Grandpa wanted to make sure I knew it. This lady came up to us and said speak the language of the land (We live in the States) so my gpa turned to here and started speaking Blackfoot. Unfortunately I don't speak the language nor remember what he said but when he finished with "Was that better" in perfect English the look on that lady's face was priceless.
He saw the opportunity and he took it!
My dad's got a friend at his work that grew up in Laos and can speak English fairly well but still has a pretty heavy accent. Once another worker was giving him a hard time about not being able to understand his accent, and he goes "Fuck you! You understand that?!"
I don’t mean to be rude but what exactly is Blackfoot? I’ve never heard of that is it some kind of Native American tribe?
@@Choujifangirl Not rude at all, The Blackfoot Confederacy is a nation of Blackfoot speaking tribes, I'm, or rather my grandpa, was Siksika (which literally translates to Black foot). From the Alberta/Montana area.
@@nathancrapo9788 so Blackfoot is kind of like an indigenous tribe in alberta?
At this point, I feel like a karen would see a group of kids playing Uno, hear one of them call out "UNO!" And then yell at them because "This is America, speak english!"
Imagine if one of the kid's parent(s) snaps back with: "yelling like that DOSn't do you any favors!"
@@thuyluong5925 "Stop yelling at my kids or I'll make you disappear without a TRES"
The blind woman story: besides the Entitled Mother deserving to be arrested, the first security guard should be fired. Not only he broke ADA's rules as other comments pointed out, even if OP was faking to be blind (which she wasn't), the moment EM grabbed her harness, that's physical assault. OP faking it or not, his job was to stop EM;
OP was lucky there was another security guard around who actually knew his job. Also, why I feel EM called the first security guard because she know him somehow, and wanted someone who would support her bs?
How’d she write the story
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@@EtoMashi Many visually impaired people use screen readers and even on the IPhone there’s a special feature called Voiceover
@@quinnsug that, and im sure OP had a friend who would be more than excited to help them write the story about it
@@EtoMashi Theres this thing called voice to text
The blind person really should have called the police. That mother needs to be taught a lesson
I'm sorry if I'm singling out disabled people (even though I am one), but it seems like the disabled need to have a type of panic button as a means of calling for help against these kinds of attacks. At the very least, he should make a very annoying sound that will continue to repeat until the harrassment stops. I bet the latter would be so satisfying.
Often the police are very uneducated when it comes to disabled people as well. Those of us that are disabled aren’t always better off calling the cops than just leaving the situation. Unfortunately, it’s far too common that police can make situations like this worse, not better.
Especially when you’re dealing with a Karen that’s willing to lie to make herself look like the victim or the righteous one.
Wow, that S-Guard was very useless.
i might be ignorant but i have one little question, how did op post the story if they couldn't see, and browse through reddit, like there's a few ideas but i honestly just want to know the real answer.
no bloody name Adaptive devices and text-to-speech. She said she had an earbud in. That was because her phone was reading the posts to her.
The best part about the blind person is that, depending on the state, interfering with a service dog is either a misdemeanor or felony, call the police.
The story of the blind girl was giving me so much anxiety that I had to take a break afterwards. Thats the mark of a well written and well narrated story. I was totally immersed.
when I heard about an Italian grandmother being yelled at by that karen I honestly braced myself for the worst, ready for a sequence of beeped out blasphemies in typical Italian fashion
it's honestly pretty hilarious cause blasphemies are pretty common here in Italy [especially in Veneto where I live, we're literally known in the whole country for how much we curse] but in any other country it would be so shocking-
i work in security and this guard in the blind person story needs to move the other person along. It does not matter what condition someone has nor do they have to prove it to anyone at that level. What you do see is a woman badgering a blind person who has now raised a complaint about a behavior you have now witnessed. Asking for detailed medical histories or "proving" they have a condition is a gross overstepping of personal boundaries and I wouldn't have a guard working under me that acted this way.
I worked as a security guard for years. Guards often fall into one of two categories:
1. People doing entry-level jobs while they go to school or are trying to get a different job. (Or are working another job but need a few more hours a week.)
2. People who failed to become a police officer for one reason or another, or retired military or police officers. Either way, they're real mad that they aren't police or military and overuse the power they think they have on everyone they can.
This story got me curious, are security guards allowed to like check for papers allowing exceptions to the rules, like in the service dog situation for exemple.
I mean, part of your job is to make sure people are following the establishment rules, and there must be some kind of control to do in those situations ? Like checking the dogs paper or something. Otherwise everyone would be able to come in with a dog claiming it's a service dog even though it's not, and I'm sure a lot of people would do that if it was just based on what they tell.
I'm not defending the incompetent security guard of the story, it's just curiosity. It's pretty obvious that the guy should have first prioritize the safety of the person who was minding their own buisness and very clearly being attacked (even if just verbaly).
@Myha It's not a perfect system, but yes people can claim whatever they want and not have to validate themselves, even if its obvious they're lying. Like someone saying they're blind and their dog is a service animal even though it's both aggressive and on a normal leash, and the person is complaining about a typo on a sign.
Asking for paperwork you just can't do. Even at the disability advocacy center I go to, they say "If you identify as disabled, you can get our services". You don't need a disability. Just say you are. And they will never ask what disability you have. They can't.
In regards to the blind person being attacked, the guard can't intervene except by yelling at them. Their job is to call the cops. Even putting your hand, without touching someone, in between the two so they back off on their own isn't allowed because they could sue and say you hit them, and there aren't enough camera angles to prove them a liar.
@@MindokInAh The only thing you’re allowed to ask about a service dog is:
(1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?
(2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform?
You cannot ask for proof of a disability or even what the person’s disability is under the ADA. If the dog is well-behaved, wearing a vest, and/or actively performing a task, you can usually just tell if they are a service dog or not. Yes, people can buy vests that say “service dog/emotional support animal” but usually the behavior of the dog gives away people trying to cheat the system. At that point, if the dog is being disruptive, you can ask the person to leave based on the dog’s behavior. You don’t even have to bring up their possible disability.
Not just that, he’s legally not allowed to ask what her disability is or ask her to prove it. That’s a massive ADA violation right there.
Security guard: can you prove you're paraplegic and need the wheelchair
Karen: they're faking flopping around
People actually do this. Not all of us that use wheelchairs have paralysis, so Karens will come up to us and yell at us for “faking” a disability because they saw us shift our legs or stand up for a moment. They’ll demand that we prove that we’re paralyzed and if we “admit” that we’re not, they freak out like they’ve caught a murderer red-handed.
In extreme cases they’ll try to take the wheelchair, resulting in injury to the wheelchair user.
I’ve never had one of them try to take my chair, but I’ve had them yell at me for “faking” and supposedly stealing their tax dollars by collecting disability payments by faking a disability.
Despite the fact that I don’t get any kind of disability payments.
Wow, that S-Guard was very useless.
@@Annie_Annie__ when I had surgery a few years ago and first started going out, it would wear me out for the rest of the day. So I'd use those scooters in store. It felt awkward, bc when I was done, id just park it by the front, hop off and walk to the car. Fortunately, I didnt have jerks but was prepared for that discussion. And try to keep my eyes and ears to support/defend those who do need things like canes, service animals or wheelchairs.
i think part of the "being cursed out in another language" that feels worse is that you can tell that they're pissed, they're saying words loudly, and you don't know what it means. they could be just calling you an asshole, OR they could be telling you your wife is a cow and you have the body build of a withered corpse. the uncertainty is what i think makes it hurt more
they could be saying your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberries lol
also, some languages have some BRUTAL swearing that flows out the tongue so much that the hand of satan himself would pick up the mic for you after you drop it (after he finishes the soup you prepared) 🤣
I want to learn compliments and kind words in other languages and shout them at people who anger me. See if it has the same affect while bringing positivity to others around.
What do people in America have against other languages? I mean seriously, have they even looked at a map?
rslash completely butchered that serbian
As a Serbian, i will admit, the way you said "Ti velika kuchko" was hilarious to me
Did he say it right? If not, how should he have said it? I'd really like to know so that I can say and use it right.
@@SerenaSilverMoon Amazingly enough, he said it right. He just missed one letter. The Č in kučko (č is pronounced as ch in, e.g., chain, choke, cheat, etc.). So the whole sentence is pronounced something like: tee veh-lee-ka kooch-kaw
@Imsorry Imshy THANK YOU!!!! Now I can curse at someone and know that it's right. LOL
Nismo Srbi nego smo ruski komunisti haha 🤣
That first security guard in the seeing eye dog story should 100% lose his job.
As someone who is legally blind, I feel I will have many run-ins with entitled parents once I get a service dog. I was hesitant to get one but a few months ago my leg was broken after getting but by a car, u didn't see so had an "eye opening" moment where I realized u actually do need one lol
Yeah, and a disturbing amount of police officers are really just psychopaths with a murderhobo license. Please try to keep your service animal safe when you get one. Also did you know you can actually get a "seeing eye horse"? Miniature horses can be seeing-eye animals too.
If you don’t mind me asking, how are you able to type stuff when you’re blind?
@@1-upking119 legally blind usually means they can see, but have such poor eyesight to the point where they can’t drive, stuff like that. even if they were completely blind though, screen readers usually tell you what key you’re pressing on the keyboard
@@TELEK1NET1C Ohh ok. Thanks for the explanation!
Yeah I feel you. I am legally blind as well, and I’m waiting to be matched with a guide dog at the moment. I was advised to memorize the ADA laws in case people get difficult about my dog being allowed certain places or to do certain things. I feel like those situations will probably be pretty frustrating, but overall I am really excited to get a guide dog, as I know that it will be super beneficial to my independence. I hope everything works out for you. 😸
The first story had a small update. Karen called cps claimed that op was abusing the baby and tried to convince cps to get a court mandated c section to save the baby from op. She also lied on Facebook about op giving her the baby then her and family after finding out she wasn't. Called her every name under the sun until she blocked her.
This story will get far worse. If she's going to these lengths, she'll get violent, they always do.
link pls
I came to the comments JUST to make sure someone had posted the update fpr everyone
@@o-hero-gaming4227 The fact that r/ doesn't link to the posts is actually a major shortcoming of this channel
@@agilagilsen8714 ikr, even though his vids are great, its not fun not being able to understand how people took the post
for the story with the blind girl: that security guard should be sued, and the woman should be arrested. that story was... sickening to say the least. that woman is awful for using a blind family member as an excuse to harass blind people, and that security guard is so awful for asking OP to prove that she's blind.
That security guard performed so many ADA violations, you can hear the lawyers salivate over this case. It's open and shut against the mall for having the security guard act in that manner. $75k+
a blind family member who might not even exist
Picturing an old lady yelling "Eff you, is that better??" Made me laugh so hard
1:05 *DING DING DING IT'S THE 'YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP' ALARM!*
I will never understand the thought of a “complete family”. I swear some people think an adult man and woman being in proximity to kids automatically makes them Parents of the Year.
I’d love to hear what the blind cousin had to say to that Karen when she recounted harassing a blind woman.
Also, I second that. It’s honestly one of my life’s goals to learn as many foreign curse words as I can.
Entitled parents are just a different breed.
And no, not in a good way…
Hello there verified
They are definitely a very, very special kind of scummy
Couldn’t agree more.
Hope they go extinct.
Hence why they’re called “entitled.”
Karens were once funny on this channel, now they’re making it harder to enjoy listening to these stories
Holy shit, that second story. I can just hear the lawyers salivating over the huge payday they’ll get if OP retains them.
Wow, that S-Guard was very useless.
@@nenmaster5218 What that security guard did broke ADA regulations by demanding she prove she's blind. We're talking the mall owing $75k+ if they're found responsible (which they are). You can hear all the lawyers drooling.
@@sintanan469 Yeah.
I know, cause i watch Legal Eagle. He taught me a lot. Know him?
@@nenmaster5218 I know of a writer with the handle RegalLegalEagle, but I assume that's not who you mean. I'll look into them.
@@sintanan469 I look into that Regal Legal Eagle then,
but yeah, that's not who i meant. I meant the TH-camr.
The 1 who made Collabs with Tier Zoo as well as Hbomberguy;
who are also high-quality and very funny TH-camrs.
Had I witnessed that incident in the blind OP's story, I would've done a better job than the first guard to get that nasty woman off OP. The way that the guard was trying so hard to play goody two-shoes and going as far as to ignore OP's pleads to just have her removed disgusted me. I sure hope these aren't the kind of stunts that Karens get away with on a regular basis, because that's just putting a bad image on the corporations that does and will probably lose them business from honest patrons and consumers, as they rightfully should. If a business sacrifices morals in hopes of saving face, they have no more room to run a business than those who don't pay or mistreats their own employees.
I'm honestly not surprised how disabled people often gets mistreated like this. Between self-righteous entitled people and the lack of accessibility in many modern architectures and infrastructure, there's plenty of things that will make their lives a living hell. I hope OP can find and move to another place that cares about their disabled population, because wherever she lives right now sounds like an entitled hell-hole.
YES RSLASH! Please post more of these blind situations stories
This kind of situation happens at least 3 times a week to every single blind person I know! My opinion is that they should start actually posting the name of the restaurant/mall/store that does that, but they haven’t quite yet. Please post more to spread about it
That security guard needs to be disciplined, doesn’t matter if the person can prove their disability or not just the fact that they have a guide dog with them means no interference period. For all they know that dog could have been in training
Jesus Christ, that first security guard was less than useless. I really hope she made a complaint against him
Being reprimanded or cussed out in a foreign language definitely hits harder. My mom’s side of the family speaks English and Spanish (honestly, more Spanglish than actual Spanish) but we were all raised to know that when Nana or Tia (auntie) spoke to you in proper Spanish, you did something very wrong.
Ikr i mean I am Serbian and if i would hear someone say fuck you to me that would not be so bad,but if someone said "Jebi se"(fuck you in Serbian)that would be much worse.
My dads side is Ukrainian and when my dad would piss off my Baba (grandma) she would curse him out in Russian. That’s where I learned my Russian swear words.
I was never on the receiving end of it but my dad was
@@notalikeableperson961 ya it always has much more emotion, intent and a bit of shock value. at least from what ik, which isnt much since ive at most heard it from only a few movies or comedians. :)
i think for single language/english only speakers its partly cuz of the fear of the unkown and for some its like ur literally being cursed, not just cussed at. we fear what we know much less. love craft horror is the best example of this. :)
@@chrislanglois8275 Yea,probably bcs we hear it so often.
That security guard should have been fired. I worked as a sheriff for many years. You cannot ask for proof if someone is disabled. Good way to get sued. If I was her I would have taken that security company to court.
The lady at 1:40 seems like she would trick a young teen into going to a pregnancy crisis center, force her to give birth and take the baby and do it again when it grows up
As a blind person that 2nd story triggered me so much. We face this kind of ignorance and discrimination on a constant basis. In the story OP talked about how some blind people have something physically wrong with their eyes and I'm one of those people and I was still accused of not being blind just because I got around a place too well . So we can't win either way and I realized how stupid people can be sometimes..
Sorry if I sound rude but may I ask how did you write this comment? I'm very sorry if I sounded rude but I'm a little confused and I'd like to know
@@Mizukisu_
Speech to text most likely
@@Mizukisu_ I use a screen reader on all of my devices that reads out everything on the screen to me out loud and how I type things out detepends on what device I'm using. I'm currently using my phone and dictate to type this out.
@@ToughBeifong thank you for the explanation! Sorry if I caused trouble to you
@@Mizukisu_ It's OK. I don't mind as long as you're respectful about asking questions. I don't mind spreading education about my disability.
Blind or not a service dog is protected and he had no right to question her at all about her disability. It doesn't matter who was "right" in the situation and he should have done his job and gotten the Karen away from her when she asked instead of helping her harass OP! Rent a cops get a high off their powers over people even when it amounts to nothing at the end of the day.
Don't think he was on a power high or anything, just seems like he was completely incompetent
@@ShadowEclipse777 as a service dog handler, most people are really ignorant. i have so many stories of entitled people and parents but haven't posted any since its basically like a daily thing. people will always ask invasive questions or think hes actually not mine cause i dont look disabled or arent blind (my boy is medical alert) many employees, security guards and even cops dont properly know the ADA law (im in the US) and so it makes it really frustrating.
That poor blind woman. Never heard someone who knows a blind person who does not get that you can’t do that to one.
I bet the whole "blind cousin" thing was just a lie.
@@tidepodpadthai2633 likely it was. Or at the very least, the cousin either doesn't know Karen, or doesn't talk to Karen. I with OP the best and I hope we can stop ignorance about blind and other disabled people from existing in the future.
I honestly love hearing different languages in public places. Makes me feel excited that America is a mixture of so many cultures.
As a security supervisor, that first guy would've been done at my site. Unreal...
I hope that security guard was fired. They had no right to ask those questions and why he even thought it was his job to see which woman was lying is beyond me.
That security guard NEEDS to be fired or heavily reprimanded at the least.
OP: "I am blind!"
Karen: "No, you're not!!"
OP: "Yes, I AM blind!"
Karen: *"DID. I. STUTTER?"*
If I was watching the incident, I'd walk up to the lady and tell her to leave OP alone as it's none of her business if she's disabled or not and if she said no then leave her alone. And that her child is acting more mature than you.
@@Battleship009 If a child acts more mature than an adult, you know you have a serious problem.
@@dracko158 Yep.
That first guard was worthless, and I hope got fired! And people saying she should have papers proving she is blind? Really? You really think she should carry that with her wherever she goes?
I can't help but remember a story I read a while ago where a Karen (or the male variant) tried the "speak English" line at a pair of women, and they just... switched to English, and loudly continued a conversation about mensural cycles, flow, blood and sanitary items. If I recall correctly, the Karen was absolutely horrified. Obviously, such subject matters aren't taboo to adults, but this Karen was quite the pearl clutcher.
This lady should have gotten arrested for assaulting a disabled lady.
It wouldn't have been assault, It would most likely have been knocked down to battery two. also, it doesnt matter that OP was a lady or not, ya benevolent sexist.
Usually i'm against hitting a woman unless it's for self defense but the Karen that harrased the blind lady in the second story tempted me to make an exception with her.
Modern women are trying really hard to unwrite those rules. Especially these Karens. Many of them need to be hit, like the one from the second story harassing the blind girl. Soon men will just forget about the “we’re not supposed to” thing and start treating them with true equality
Well, the moment she grabed the service dog, it basically became self defense.
@@frankthetank4986 Good point but remember that not all modern women are like this, i can tell you from experience with my mother, my sister, my aunts, my little cousins and many of my friends who are girls as well.
Same. I try not to get into fights but like- I'd probably strangle.
Security guard: I dont know who to believe
How about the one that doesnt involve violating ADA, lawsuits and getting yourself fired if you're wrong.
What's even worse than getting cursed out in another language? It's when the British use simple words with such anger that it seems more like being cursed out than anything. Like a mad British person could call me a stupid carrot & that would feel worse than being called an actual swear word in English.
Actually, thanks to these Reddit posts, I know not to even let my kid ask if he can pet a service dog. Glad these stories are out there.
That blind person story is dreadful. I can’t believe people like that exist. And I can’t believe no one helped like they should have.
I thought the same thing!
The guard from the blind story needs to be fired he was breaking every single American with disabilities act rules there is you legally cannot ask someone to prove their disability it is illegal what he should’ve done was told Karen to mind her business and leave op alone which is his only job kudos to the second guard for jumping in and doing his job as a disabled woman it warms my heart
As a visually impaired person it's awful to hear those experiences occur often. I can see well enough to manage on my own but in my country you can get a card basically telling you're visually impaired or blind. It doesn't specify much, but shows how "bad" the disability is. They come handy in a lot of places. Easy way to prove I may need assistance for example in a swimming pool where I won't use my glasses for example.
I love that last mini story, Grandma isn’t taking no shit 😂
"She isn't blind, the dog isn't real"is a wild thing to tell security
As a legally blind person, the whole “I know a blind person so I know what blind people look like/act like etc.” is just soooo infuriating. Blindness is a spectrum, so only about 10% of us are totally blind. The rest of us have varying degrees of usable vision (for example, I can read print as long as it is large enough and/or close enough and there is nothing that can correct my vision to better than 20/200). There are many different causes of vision loss. Some are from birth, some happen suddenly due to an illness or accident, some are degenerative and a person will slowly lose their vision over time.. unfortunately, the media has perpetuated a stereotypical “blind person look”, So a lot of people assume that we are all supposed to look like that. Some of us do, but most of us don’t. Many of us can look like anyone else most of the time, so we get to deal with hearing “you don’t look blind” on a regular basis.
By the way, for those wondering, blind people do use smart phones, tablets, watches etc. They are all equipped with accessible technology. Someone who is totally blind can still do things like read and reply to comments. That’s another lovely thing we get to deal with... the whole “If you’re blind, how did you read my comment/how can you type?” “Did your dog type that for you?” etc. really gets old, (I should add that when people ask how we do things like read and reply to comments in a polite respectable way, that’s just fine. Most of us are very happy to educate people. Unfortunately though, It is often asked in a way where it is clear the person is accusing us of faking.)
For anyone interested, there are some great blind people with TH-cam channels that make videos to educate people about blindness, guide dogs, technology etc. the most well known is Molly Burke. But there are others like Joy Ross, Cayla with a C, Blind Girl Vlogs, How Casey Sees It just to name a few.
Cheers, I didn’t want to ask about the possibility with smartphones and tablets and such in fear of being the “a**hole” 😅
Even the polite people get annoying after a while
I understand it's not their fault they don't understand but it just gets so tiring answering the same question over and over and over again it's always the first question anyone asks
After while I eventually just decided to say screw it and just wrote out the answers I tend to give in what amounts with q&a on my about page of my profile so that anyone who wanted to ask could just go look there and I wouldn't have to keep saying it over and over and over again
Wait, so, if one is blind so to speak, how does the typing work with smartphones and whatnot? Is it like a special smartphone or something kinda similar to Braille? Sorry if it sounds odd, I’m just trying to understand a bit is all
@@tailbolt8483 talk back check it out accessibility settings on any device you have
@@tailbolt8483 Accessibility features are built into all smart devices. If you go into your settings and look for “accessibility“, you will see a list of options for visual as well as other physical impairments. For the whole typing thing, if you’re using a keyboard you learn how to touch typel. The best typists in the world are taught never to look at the keyboard, so it’s not a big stretch to learn how to memorize the keyboard when you can’t see it. As a matter of fact, many blind people have had careers as transcribers in the medical and other fields, typing out audio recordings. With phones and tablets, there is voice to text technology where you dictate what you want to write, and you can include punctuation, emojis etc. The device will also read whatever you want it to out loud. You can even edit what you were trying to say, correct spelling errors etc. Some of the blind TH-camrs that I mentioned have tutorials about how this works. The thing that always cracks me up is people are so shocked that this technology exists for us, but you guys use voice commands all the time with your devices, asking directions, ordering laundry detergent etc., so we don’t understand why it’s such a stretch for so many people to realize that voice commands work for blind people! Lol. If you do a search on TH-cam for “how does a blind person use a smart phone“, you will actually get a great list of videos you can watch that should answer any of your questions. I really hope this helps you understand.
The grandma in the last story (the comment story) is awesome. She takes crap from no one and really knows how to literally tell someone to screw off. She's an inspiration to all of us.
Story 3: "We're in America. Speak English!"
Me: You're just mad that you can't understand a conversation you're trying to listen into.
That she's one of those nationalists who think everything outside the US is communism.
Though it's more likely the first one.
That, and if you were going to speak American, you have to sign in ASL
@@abfarrow3596 or speak in Cherokee. Or any other indigenous language, including Hawaiian.
@@asmith8692 yeah. And if you really want to communicate in American, speak all of those languages at once while signing
So true.
The security guard really shouldnt have conducted themselves the way they did.
Even IF she can’t prove she’s blind, she has a right not to be harassed/verbally assaulted.
As a person who's blind in the left eye I would've sued that Karen for violating the ADA and have her behind bars
The first security guard in story 2 should have been fired
I'm sure guard 2 had a chat with management of the store and his team.
There are a lot of incompetent people hired for those positions.
About getting cursed out in a different language: My girlfriend is Italian and I have friends from Romania. They can get VERY creative when they curse people out 😂
what's funny to me about that last story is the fact that the USA don't have an official language, most states just use english as their main language because that's spoken the most. So basically the entitled B word is wrong no matter what. also the story about the blindgirl boiled my blood as where my grandma was blind and the fact that the entitled b word used her own family member as one excuse to harrass her is so sickening i can't imagine being such a lowlife person...
The majority of the world's population is bilingual, so if you only speak one language then you're below the average.
@@natlegend Majority in my country are trilingual.
which is funny because if a karen (from here or anywhere else *looks intensively at the USA) would say stuff like that most of us would belike ohh sorry didn't you finish elementary or highschool?
@@ashmazr3539 I should have said multilingual
10:43 "The dog isn't real"
I guess it's just a damn hallucination then.
The blind person story made me so mad, the lady should have been arrested but the security guard should have also been held accountable! He let that lady physically assault op!
The lady with the seeing eye dog she does not have to prove she has a disability. In Canada and in the States and in most of Europe they have no right to ask you those questions. The store could be sued for discrimination by asking these questions. And you know what they damn well should be they have no right to encourage this behavior in this behavior and this crazy entitled parent. If the security guard is unsure of the laws surrounding this he should get management. If I was this lady I would press charges on the store and on the woman she is no right to do what she did. Feel terrible that people with service animals have to put up with this silly nonsense.
Edit it to add it wouldn't matter if it was a service animal or not if someone tells you no you can't pet my dog the answer is no. Just because you have children and you ask nicely for something or demand it doesn't mean you get it. Sorry the story just has made me so mad.
That's what I was thinking.
When a pet owner says no to petting their dog, there shouldn't be anything left to discuss or prrof or for the Security Guard to be "unsure who to believe".
The story's fake. OP was exposed on later posts. She isn't blind even.
As a blind person, it's illegal to ask a disabled person to prove their disability.
Also, there are plenty of ways to use technology as a blind person. This is insane
Op can actually sue the store for not protecting a disabled patron. That first security guard did nothing to provide a safe environment and actively doubted her disability. That is actually lawsuit material
This security guard is completely incompetant. I hope he got disciplined and fired and never able to work in security again.
15:14 you said the curse word so wrong I spit out my water from laughing XD
15:58 not again 🤣😭
Everyone knows being blind is a real thing. Everyone knows that sometimes dogs are seeing-eye dogs.
To automatically assume someone is lying about this very realistic situation alone is absurd. To get aggressive about it is beyond absurd.
Edit: That woman absolutely should've called the police.
The second story just has me shaking. That security guard needs to lose his job and that EP needs to get hit by karma or something.
14:59 Judging by her logic "if you speak Serbian you should go back to Serbia", then why doesn't she go back to England if she speaks English? What kind of logic is this?
Because she speaks American, c'mon now smh
the other thing that bothers me about the guide dog story is OP already told thhe security guard that they have proof that it's a licensed service dog. So regardless of if OP is blind or not the security guard just needed to see those papers and thats all they need to tell them the mother cant pet the dog, not even regarding con sent it doesnt matter if OP was blind or not, the dog being a service animal for any reason is reason to lead the EM away
I thought she was going to say it was greedy for her to force a baby without a dad. But nope, she went the crazy route
That blind person story. Asking anything more than 'is this a service dog?' and 'what task does the dog perform.' is completely illegal. That blind guy should sue.
Asking if the dog is a service dog isn't illegal it's his job as normal dogs are banned. Asking to prove that they are disabled and how however.
@@DarthAxolotl Gee, that sure was a reading comprehension fail.
@@DarthAxolotl reading fail
Seconding. I'm a service dog handler of 14 years, currently training a guide dog for the deaf. The person is in no way required to disclose a thing about their disability, but the second question exists for a reason.
If you asked me those questions, the answers are, respectively, "yes" and "She's training to detect sounds like fire alarms, timers, potential hazards like forklifts, and more that I cannot detect. She's also task-trained to block me from people who are getting too close without my knowledge." These are legitimate service dog tasks (but not even scratching the surface of possible tasks!) and answers the question without disclosing more than that I am hearing impaired.
I'm so surprised no one actually punches the entitled people in the face EVER
i swear if someone tries to steal my dog or something they wouldn't walk out of it in one piece
Absolutely with you on that!
My mother is a Karen, and there was a conversation I had with her. I told her that my tinnitus was acting up and I couldn't hear a certain thing at the time because of it. She didn't know what tinnitus was. I said, "You know when someone hits you in the head or face really hard and there's a ringing in your ears?"
She said she'd never been hit by anyone.
It made so much sense to me.
Same here 100%
I would probably miss xD
My dad was blind, the best way to tell if someone is blind is how their eyes focus. Usually their eyes don't fully focus in what they are looking at. Even then! I've met a few blind people whose eyes do focus because of what amount they can perceive. So that lady was not only dumb but crazy.
Hi! I’m the blind girl!
Thanks so much for sharing my story and helping spread more awareness on the blind experience, it means so much!
Much love!
I hope that by some medical miracle that your eyes heal
if that security guard believed the EM when she said she had a blind cousin, and asked OP for proof she was blind, shouldn’t he also ask the EM for proof her cousin is blind?
I read the second story on reddit the day it was posted and i said it then and i'll say it now: The security guard even asking her why she has a guide dog is already illegal, asking someone to prove their disability is also illegal. No one appart from your doctors are allowed to know your medical infos. Obviously someone being blind or in a wheelchair, people see it (even though OP sadly seems to have a lot of issues with people asking questions they shouldn't and many people even visibly handicap get denied their rights, especially with dogs) but it gets really bad with invisible illness. If someone says: i'm disabled, i have a trained service dog there's no follow up needed, no questions to be asked even from security guards. Just move on and tell Karen " this person say they're blind/disabled it's none of your business if you think otherwise, stop harassing them or you will be removed" that's it. If i remember well i told OP she needed to contact the store, because those guards need serious training.
There's so much wrong with that second story... Though I did chuckle when Karen said 'The dog isn't real!' like it is some kind of Boston dynamics robot or materialized spirit dog.
That security guard asking her to prove that she's blind needs to be fired. That's beyond insane!
That second story left me fuming. My mother is blind, and if someone ever did that to her, I'm not exaggerating when I say that I would strangle them, consequences be damned.
Second Story: I would've filed a formal complaint against that first useless security guard.
As a blind person I can attest to this being very common. It's shocking how ignorant some people are. It's like we have to run into stuff and trip all over the place just to prove we can't see.
Security guard's job: Dealing with a case of harassment
Security guard: Trying to find out if OP is really blind.
The grandmother at the end made me burst out laughing. What a legend!
As a visually impaired person myself, I find it quite strange that some blind people seem to say that they have bad occurrences on a daily basis. Then there are people like me, who fear that kind of interaction on a daily basis, and it never happens to those of us who want it to happen to us so we can put people in their places! 😂 I've been hoping to run into a Karen for a while, I have yet to find one LOL, yes I'm terrified, but I also wanted to happen at the same time if that makes sense
That first story: OP should have sued the restaurant and the Karen. Also, idegaf if it’s a service dog or not, if someone says don’t touch my pet/service dog, then DONT TOUCH THEIR PET.