When I was learning Irish fiddle fifteen years ago, I could not find a teacher who could tell me these crucial points. I have spent years doing it wrong, knowing I was doing it wrong, and not knowing how to fix it. I even ran a session with many musicians coming and going for a year, and no one knew how to do it correctly or could tell me how to fix what I was doing. Thank you so much for this. I have found that in tight, crowded sessions, I do not have the room to hold my bow at the frog and throat, and have had to compensate by holding the bow at the winding. Perhaps it is also my arm length.
Fine playing and informative. I am a classical violinist, and I watched your right hand with amazement and more than a little shock. I am not convinced that classical technique will not work for this style, with minor adaptation. I will work on it. Thanks for the lesson!
I wish all my playing lessons were this informative and clear. truely amzing! keep doing it, and may this level of teaching propegate to other instruments and styles too
This is absolutely brilliant! It’s so great to also get some technique rather than just listen and repeat (a lot of that on the internet which is very generous but of its kind). Thank you so, so much for sharing. Great inspiration for adult beginners! I really appreciate it.
Thank you for solving a problem that has caused me sleepless nights till now :) Swung bowing, or not swung bowing in reels... nobody knows! Splendid! I can stop getting stressed about it! :))
Thanks for these clear explanations on how using the bow for irish music ! I'm a starter and this video will be very very helpful to begin with good vibrations ! thanks again !
This was SOO useful-1/2 inch bowing and index binger pressure- it's changes my playing dramatically ~ Thank you! I would love to see a clip on accompanying singers and how to be unobtrusive
I'm starting playing again after a gap of about 50 years and I was really pleased when you said there was no reason for holding the bow in the 'wrong' place. Then I watched the rest and noticed your wrist is constantly bent. If you bow mostly at the pointy end, with very short strokes, a shorter bow would fix that, or moving your hand, as though it was shorter... :-)
Thank you for this. I taught myself by ear and have been fiddling for years. I have learnt to play jigs and reels using long bow strokes with the rhythm coming from left hand fingering. Now I want to speed up I've hit a brick wall. Going to be difficult totally altering my bowing technique but I'm determined Thx again for sharing your knowledge.
This is great even as a refresher. You explain it very well, especially how you can work your bow to the end if you don't compensate with bowing lengths.
Thanks Chris - I watched your video on accompaniment- - you're right just...just what I needed - thankfully I have most of the music requested for St. Patrick's Day - wonderful soprano singer - they handed me the lyrics that's all and the old guitar player is really a horn player and couldn't tell me the chords he was playing oh vay but I know I'll have fun now and will lay low with you great tips- they like my solos and I'll play 2 :)🌈🍀
Yay, was looking forward to this, getting some more understanding of how to play the Irish bowing, thank you so much for this video. This will keep me busy for the coming time 😅😊
My problem is that I can do the bowing… until I add melody, then it all goes south. I think those small passages you have included here is going to be super useful. Thank you! Ps: Martin Hayes is a great exponent of dynamics, and I think enriches just about everything he plays.
Hey Chris! Good video. The flick is something I’m still learning when to apply. There’s usually multiple opportunities in a phrase to do it. Comments? Also, I was hoping to hear you discuss the bow triplet ornament that I hear the cream of the crop of Irish fiddlers use now and them. Again, when to use it. Thank you. Look forward to the old time video.
Hi Jerry. I tend to think of the flick and the triplet as ornaments rather than bowing features, but yes, maybe I should have mentioned them. Have you seen my video on the bowed triplet? th-cam.com/video/JzPmJ_J021Q/w-d-xo.html
Great, thank you very much for all your videos! You could do one to the bowing of Irish violinist Kevin Burke. He made a few tutorials where he explains his way of doing things. It looks like a "smooth Shuffle 3/3/11" with the accents on 2 and 4 Beats, but starting each measure with an up bow😊
Hi Gabriel. That's a good idea. Early in his career Kevin played a bit of American old time, and I think that may be where he got attached to the shuffle with a strong backbeat. He's very keen on starting with upbows. Personally I find that works really well with jigs.
@@TheFiddleChannel ha yes, I didn’t know about his early career! Here is one of the videos where he explains his bowing strokes, in case you haven't seen it :-) th-cam.com/video/1AMesSTGSd8/w-d-xo.html
Some of the exercises and concepts here are from my book "Exploring Folk Fiddle", but you can get a pdf of everything in this video for free if you email me on haighchris@hotmail.com.
Around 10:00 feels like when I attempted to learn french. Carrying the bow direction over from the last beat to the first beat of the next bar reminds me of liaisons. Im a self taught fiddler, I have mainly been drawn to American old time. It feels the most similar to playing rhythic guitar for me. This (and bluegrass/more melodic styles) seems like wayyy more though goes into bow direction. Is the way to get away from thinking too hard about bow direction is just practicing passages both directions always like you said? Especially in bluegrass, Im flabbergasted by how fiddlers can improvise all over the place and never lose positioning or control of their bow
I have been looking for a chord progression common on the guitar G,C,D, Em. But the Em seems to be missing on most fiddle TH-cam lessons, is there a reason for this?
Hi Shanty. If you're talking about Irish tunes, if they're in G they would tend to start and end on a G. For guitarists, chords might come first, but for tune players, the melody defines the chords.
An English accent ha! Well I'm glad not all Englishmen hate the Irish. Do you have any good advice for the fingerboard technique to give it that Irish twang.
Enjoy your videos. Don’t play much fiddle now. Used to play in sessions in Portland Or in the 80’s. Kevin Burke, John Cunningham, Martin Hayes where a few of the famous fiddlers that swinged by now and then. Think the jig played in the background on this video sounds like Kevin Burke
Excellent explanation. I do not play fiddle but I understand now the difference that I hear in Irish fiddle reels.
Thanks Danny!
In my opinion Mr. Chris Haigh is the best teacher fiddle on the world🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻
When I was learning Irish fiddle fifteen years ago, I could not find a teacher who could tell me these crucial points. I have spent years doing it wrong, knowing I was doing it wrong, and not knowing how to fix it. I even ran a session with many musicians coming and going for a year, and no one knew how to do it correctly or could tell me how to fix what I was doing. Thank you so much for this. I have found that in tight, crowded sessions, I do not have the room to hold my bow at the frog and throat, and have had to compensate by holding the bow at the winding. Perhaps it is also my arm length.
Thanks, glad you found this helpful!
@@TheFiddleChannel. Hi Chris. Have you done a video teaching Trip to Pakistan, particularly part C and the type of bowing require ?
No, I haven't, but I'll take a look at it.@@californiadreamin8423
@@TheFiddleChannel Thanks.
Fine playing and informative. I am a classical violinist, and I watched your right hand with amazement and more than a little shock. I am not convinced that classical technique will not work for this style, with minor adaptation. I will work on it. Thanks for the lesson!
Glad you enjoyed this!
Thank you Chris. I’ve learned a lot from your show!
Glad l found this - really great to have some easy to follow help Thanks
Thanks Caz!
Great summary which helped a lot. No longer feeling guilty about short bows. Slurring info useful to understand their use. Thanks for your time.
Thanks Helen. Glad it all made sense!
This is the besr of all your instruction!
This is extremely helpful- thank you!
G;lad you found this useful!
I wish all my playing lessons were this informative and clear. truely amzing!
keep doing it, and may this level of teaching propegate to other instruments and styles too
Many thanks Elad!
Was puzzled about this. Thanks for showing me.
You're welcome Tom.
Extremely useful and knowledgeable advice - thank you!!
This is absolutely brilliant! It’s so great to also get some technique rather than just listen and repeat (a lot of that on the internet which is very generous but of its kind). Thank you so, so much for sharing. Great inspiration for adult beginners! I really appreciate it.
Also, so helpful to show the music 🙏
Thanks Arfy!
Thinking of dynamics in bowing; Persian fiddling comes to mind, makes for an excellent study.
Thanks for yet another interesting video! 🙏
Thank you for solving a problem that has caused me sleepless nights till now :) Swung bowing, or not swung bowing in reels... nobody knows! Splendid! I can stop getting stressed about it! :))
Glad to hear it!!!
Excellent video for a beginner and a seasoned player. Can't wait to see the follow-up videos on oldtime and bluegrass fiddle bowing. Well done.
Thank you.
Thank you for that, very informative.
Shared.
Thanks for the share!
Thanks for these clear explanations on how using the bow for irish music ! I'm a starter and this video will be very very helpful to begin with good vibrations ! thanks again !
Glad you found this useful!
Thank You!
This was SOO useful-1/2 inch bowing and index binger pressure- it's changes my playing dramatically ~ Thank you! I would love to see a clip on accompanying singers and how to be unobtrusive
Hi Molly. So glad to hear you found this useful. You might want to see this one;
th-cam.com/video/kpXPyxmQ3vI/w-d-xo.html
I'm starting playing again after a gap of about 50 years and I was really pleased when you said there was no reason for holding the bow in the 'wrong' place. Then I watched the rest and noticed your wrist is constantly bent. If you bow mostly at the pointy end, with very short strokes, a shorter bow would fix that, or moving your hand, as though it was shorter... :-)
Oh my god! This is so good. The slurring!Thankyou so much.
So glad you liked this!
Trhank you! This is great for a novice like me … anxious to get better!!!
Glad you found it useful!
This is *really* useful for me, Chris! Thank you so much.
This was incredibly useful, thank you! :)
Regarding you doing a similar lesson on Old Time: Yes, please!!!
Thank you for this. I taught myself by ear and have been fiddling for years. I have learnt to play jigs and reels using long bow strokes with the rhythm coming from left hand fingering. Now I want to speed up I've hit a brick wall. Going to be difficult totally altering my bowing technique but I'm determined Thx again for sharing your knowledge.
Glad this was useful!
Very useful, thanks!
you're welcome!
Thanks so much that was very helpful. It's all about the bowing.
Hi Monica. it is indeed all about the bowing!
I really like your lessons, you make it clear
Thanks Marco!
Would love this for old time!!
You're in luck! Old time fiddle bowing technique video coming out this month.
Terrific help, Chris. Appreciated. Pleased to have joined your Patreon channel.
Loving your videos!
Thanks!
This is great even as a refresher. You explain it very well, especially how you can work your bow to the end if you don't compensate with bowing lengths.
Thanks!
Thanks Chris - I watched your video on accompaniment- - you're right just...just what I needed - thankfully I have most of the music requested for St. Patrick's Day - wonderful soprano singer - they handed me the lyrics that's all and the old guitar player is really a horn player and couldn't tell me the chords he was playing oh vay but I know I'll have fun now and will lay low with you great tips- they like my solos and I'll play 2 :)🌈🍀
Great. Let me know how the gig goes!
This is a great bowing tutorial. Looking forward to tutorials for Oldtime and Bluegrass bowing.
Thanks!
Yay, was looking forward to this, getting some more understanding of how to play the Irish bowing, thank you so much for this video. This will keep me busy for the coming time 😅😊
Hi Eva. Glad you found this useful!
Great lesson...Thank you
Very Helpful Thank You
My problem is that I can do the bowing… until I add melody, then it all goes south. I think those small passages you have included here is going to be super useful. Thank you!
Ps: Martin Hayes is a great exponent of dynamics, and I think enriches just about everything he plays.
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Vincent!
Thanks--this was very helpful and yes, I would like the sheet music.
Glad you enjoyed this. Send me an email to haighchris@hotmail.com
Excellent instruction! I would love to see some explanation of old time bowing ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫
Thanks!
Yes, me too😊
Excellent thank you 🙏
Thanks Gail!
Thank you so much !
You're welcome!
Hey Chris! Good video. The flick is something I’m still learning when to apply. There’s usually multiple opportunities in a phrase to do it. Comments? Also, I was hoping to hear you discuss the bow triplet ornament that I hear the cream of the crop of Irish fiddlers use now and them. Again, when to use it. Thank you. Look forward to the old time video.
Hi Jerry. I tend to think of the flick and the triplet as ornaments rather than bowing features, but yes, maybe I should have mentioned them. Have you seen my video on the bowed triplet?
th-cam.com/video/JzPmJ_J021Q/w-d-xo.html
Hi Excellent video , please send me a copy of the sheet music for the Irish Fiddle Bowing Technique Video . Regards Terry
Great, thank you very much for all your videos! You could do one to the bowing of Irish violinist Kevin Burke. He made a few tutorials where he explains his way of doing things. It looks like a "smooth Shuffle 3/3/11" with the accents on 2 and 4 Beats, but starting each measure with an up bow😊
Hi Gabriel. That's a good idea. Early in his career Kevin played a bit of American old time, and I think that may be where he got attached to the shuffle with a strong backbeat. He's very keen on starting with upbows. Personally I find that works really well with jigs.
@@TheFiddleChannel
ha yes, I didn’t know about his early career! Here is one of the videos where he explains his bowing strokes, in case you haven't seen it :-) th-cam.com/video/1AMesSTGSd8/w-d-xo.html
Hi Chris, could you tell me the name of the book which you are reading these bowing exercises from? I would like to get one if possible. Thanks
Some of the exercises and concepts here are from my book "Exploring Folk Fiddle", but you can get a pdf of everything in this video for free if you email me on haighchris@hotmail.com.
We use the same technique to play morning dew ?
Around 10:00 feels like when I attempted to learn french. Carrying the bow direction over from the last beat to the first beat of the next bar reminds me of liaisons.
Im a self taught fiddler, I have mainly been drawn to American old time. It feels the most similar to playing rhythic guitar for me. This (and bluegrass/more melodic styles) seems like wayyy more though goes into bow direction.
Is the way to get away from thinking too hard about bow direction is just practicing passages both directions always like you said? Especially in bluegrass, Im flabbergasted by how fiddlers can improvise all over the place and never lose positioning or control of their bow
Hi Peter. You just have to keep practising the bowing patterns and exercises until the right hand can take care of itself!
More practice?? haha I'm kidding. Thanks for the insight and quick reply! @@TheFiddleChannel
"Without a microphone " is the most significant comment
I have been looking for a chord progression common on the guitar G,C,D, Em. But the Em seems to be missing on most fiddle TH-cam lessons, is there a reason for this?
Hi Shanty. If you're talking about Irish tunes, if they're in G they would tend to start and end on a G. For guitarists, chords might come first, but for tune players, the melody defines the chords.
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What is the melody at the beginning of the video?
Hi Robert. It's my recording of The Banks of Lough Gowna.
An English accent ha! Well I'm glad not all Englishmen hate the Irish. Do you have any good advice for the fingerboard technique to give it that Irish twang.
It's all in the bowing and the ornamentation!
What is the name of the tune? (m.10:12) Thanks!
Hi Gladys. It's the Tenpenny Bit.
Enjoy your videos. Don’t play much fiddle now. Used to play in sessions in Portland Or in the 80’s. Kevin Burke, John Cunningham, Martin Hayes where a few of the famous fiddlers that swinged by now and then. Think the jig played in the background on this video sounds like Kevin Burke
Hi Jeff. I'm flattered- that's me playing!