Bought mine about 18 months ago and I must say, one of the best things I have bought. I suck and hand sharpening, and the belt thing was not for me. Gets a huge thumbs up from me. I have the loaded 02.
You mentioned your liking ceramic stones. I share that. I made 3 ceramics (500/1200/2000) for the K03/EdgePro using stones offered by Idahone. Unfortunately, only one of the stones is an exact fit but they all work. Also, I learned from someone that applying Windex to the ceramic stone greatly reduces the residue on the stone and what is left is easily cleaned off.
This one is also TSPROF. And model is KO3. Which model are you talking about. Which TSPROF mod are you taking. Please specify. It will be great help to choose a knife sharpner.
I got my K03 yesterday. When setting it up I came to the conclusion the allen screws on the clamps are different sizes because you want to have both of the allen keys in at the same time. Therefore making it easy to keep the clamps parallel without having to keep moving the allen key. You can turn them at the same time and its way quicker than adjusting the front one, then move the allen key to the other screw, then adjust that one a bit, then go back and check the first one and so on. They use different sized keys so you dont have 2 of the same size. That gives you more options when using these allen wrenches/keys on other things than the TSPROF. Thats Russian thinking 😉 Apologies if this has already been said.
You mention making your own stone assemblies with a strip of aluminum. I did that with a leather strop - works great. Thanks for the video - goo detail.
These systems are nice but too expensive for me so I've just invested my time into strengthening & improving my hand sharpening techniques. Love your channel & content. Stay safe my friend.
Adam, you can do it yourself. Just search for "File guide", Gough Custom made nice one. It mostly known for making main bevels, but you can use different sandpaper instead of a file for sharpening. This thing is similar to the one shown in the video, but cheaper hundred times:))
This is the Ferrari if knife sharpeners. This thing is about precision and ease. This is the Sharpener Hattori Hanzo would have used were it available when he was making samurai swords. ⚔️
I just got one for free and seeing this video shows it looks complex but rather simple to use and holy shit did it put an edge back on some knives I carry and the kitchen knives 😮 this device is insanely awsome simple and does what it's suppose to
Nice! That thing looks like it belongs in a lab, I love the look of finely machined parts. Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next build. I hope that you and yours are well, take care.
I think the screws are different sizes since the rear screws are holding a bigger piece of the knife clamp. The front of the clamp is a thinner piece of metal and only requires a smaller screw. If anything they could have used the larger screws for all three.
You're doing it wrong. (Just kidding!) It's a very expensive sharpening system, otherwise I'd have one. As it is I have the Work Sharp Professional Precision Adjust, along with a few aftermarket addons purchased here and there along with some nice diamond stones. I also have, for my larger knives, some paper wheels (grit and no grit) that I use on a variable-speed (reversed motor) buffer. I do manage to get my knives nice and sharp with what I have, yes, but I do plan to get a TSPROF some day. I enjoy watching these kinds of videos, and this one was a pleasure, so thank you for letting us hang out and sharpen with you!
To prove the angle argument, you could set your camera up on end to either sharpener so the viewing angle shows the triangle between the stone, stand, and blade. By then sharpening a straight blade, the stone would move toward and away from the camera, but keep the same angle with the blade at all times. That would be a good way to depict it for the people that still don't understand...
At 8:29....the 2 different allen screw sizes are so that you can use them both at the same time to get the right thickness and tension on clamping yur blade in.......I really like the upgrades they did on this kit.......
Oh maybe that’s why they did that. From a usability standpoint I really don’t like it. I’d rather have one tool and go between the two. But you’re right on the upgrades. This is sweet! 👍
James Brandon There are photos of sharpeners on websites given this new ‘K03’ designation, but none of the pics I’ve come across are showing the new ratchet style adjustment, only the old style. If you have a link to this model please share it, as currently it’s not even on the official site. Cheers🍻
@@griffithshandmade-knives the one that comes in the box like the one that is in this video is on Amazon for $520. I just looked it up. Still, thats a lot of dough.
The whole angle argument is really easy to confirm. Just use the level app on your iphone that shows angle degrees. just keep it parallel to the edge of the blade. The angle of the stone as it touches the edge of the blade will remain on the same plane because not only does the angle of the rod change, but so does the angle of the stone as the rod turns.
hi, but your angle changes with the "wideness" of your blade, in proportion to the clamps. your degree dialer is only set for the setup you made. if the blades goes further in or out (to the sharpener), the angle changes.
You have a Video out where you loved the Wicked Edge and now you have the TSPROF what i want to know is which one you think is the better one sense you have now used them both. Thanks
I would order this sharpener but at this time they seem not to be available. In addition, I wonder on the long haul what the service would be from them or for parts.
Appreciate the review of this tool, well done. If simplicity is the ultimate sophistication I feel that there is still a bit to be desired here. Reaching for multiple drivers on small fasteners seems that it might get problematic over time. I'm trying to find reasons to want something other than my Edge Pro but I'm not sold yet.
fyi: when you strop a knife that you just sharpened to lets say 20 degrees and the stropping is not done at that same angle you will dull your blade. that's why you buy stropping stones that mount on your tsprof
@@DF-sf5nl Thanks for the comment Derek. I think your example is looking at the problem from incorrect points and your introducing geometry and point of measurement that do not exist on the sharpener. Anyway. I stand by what I said, the angle does not change. If you disagree, great. You're entitled to do that. Cheers 👍
I will start with thanks for a great video. And I am NOT a pro knife sharpener. But I understand the physics of what is happening on the process. 1st I LOVE the way you get frustrated with people not understanding how the angle stays constant on a straight blade. Math is not for everyone. lol 2nd. If you sharpen more from the heal or the knife to the tip and back, instead of into the blade and back out of the blade you will find you get less burr. And probably even a finer edge. Just the physics of the stone on an edge. I have no idea if you really need to start this method with the coarsest stones? Im not that patient so I would probably do the 1st stone like you do as in and out of the blade just to remove more material faster. But as I worked into finer grits I would work across the edge not into it. I hand sharpened a lot of chisels and small knifes by hand. I think my uncle some 45 years ago taught me to go across the blade not into it. Great video. Which I had to coin just to have one. Thanks much. tom
HELP! I just received my K03 and need your help. I cannot raise the angle higher than 22°. The rack and pinion can't raise any higher since the adjustment tower cannot go any higher, it bottoms out. The manual gauge goes to 40°, not that I need that, but I need more than 22°. Any ideas?
Could you please do a tormek t8 review! I have one and im a little disappointed. Wondering what you think? Also you should rig up something for sharpening along the same lines as that sharpener but for a 2x72 belt grinder
I will be disappointed if I pay full price for a new Tormek t8 but 150$ from pawnshop totally acceptable. It’s only one 220 grit wet wheel stone and then need to do rest of all other sending and polishing numbers, what is again extra cost $
I'm gonna say it. I don't want to upset you because you're Canadian (I assume) and so very nice. BUT, the bevel angle does change - minutely but it does. When you move from end to end of the knife you are only adjusting 2 sides of a right angle triangle - the height stays constant. To keep the same angles all 3 sides would need to change to the same ratio. I'm an Aussie so very nearly as nice as you...
I appreciate your tact. Very much so. Really nice to be able to have a discussion on opposed views without rudeness. Thank you for that. I do have to (politely) say that I stand by my statements. We are working only on one plane when you sharpen a knife. The bevel is always only measured perpendicular to the edge. Just like the roof of a house, if you measure the pitch of the roof perpendicular to the gutter, it does not change. Now, mount a giant version of this sharpener to a central point on the top of the roof. Swing it back and forth just like this sharpener on a blade. The pitch of the roof never changes when you measure perpendicular to the gutter (which represents the edge of the knife. Maybe that helps a bit? If not, we can agree to disagree. If more comments were like yours youtube would be so much better for discussions and enjoyment as a creator. Thank you again. Cheers👍
@@Simplelittlelife I agree, TH-cam can be a pleasant place to exchange ideas. I'm going to have to experiment - just in my nature. If I'm wrong I shall be the first to say so. BTW, I'm building my own version of the Wicked Edge from extrusions typically used in CNC machines to hold material under work. I think the contraption will be as accurate, albeit less refined. Cost will be around £50 using Faalkniven D4 sharpening stones and home made strop. All the best and I really enjoy the drama-less videos.
I would never spend the kind of money that TSPROF is asking for there sharpeners. This sharpener costs $1200.00 in Canada. I can buy 4 Work Sharp® Professional Precision Adjust Knife Sharpeners for the price of the TSPROF sharpeners. I will gladly stick with my Work Sharp® Professional Precision Adjust Knife Sharpener.
No, the main difference between K03 and K02 is in the lifting unit. This one uses a pinion and the K02 was a simple thumb screw. You can purchase a digital angle cube separately.
Regarding the angle: experiment ALWAYS trumps calculation. In this case, the angle gauge on the machine moves when the actual angle to the edge changes -- but you can see (even when the blade curves slightly), that the gauge actually doesn't move; meaning yes, the angle is not changing. It COULD change if the blade curved really radically -- in a very strange edge the blade could curve and come around almost to the point of being right below the pivot, and in that case the sharpening angle would be almost 90 degrees, thereby dulling the edge. But, as long as that gauge doesn't move (and it doesn't in this demonstration) then the angle doesn't change. If it DID change slightly that would only mean that the angle was slightly different on different parts of the blade, and that wouldn't make a noticeable difference. And in fact, if the bevel appears to be the same HEIGHT along the edge, then the angle is substantially the same (as long as blade thickness from the edge remains equal along the length of the blade, which it does in most knives (until you get right at the tip....).
As I watch another TSPROF review I can't help wondering, why doesn't anyone use the park feature of the holder. They just flop it down on the table. I don't know if they just dont know about it or just prefer to flop it down.
@@Simplelittlelife the adjuster for the stop closest to you has the flat piece that stops over the pivot point when it's bumped the spring. If you rotate the rod and put the flat piece on the bottom side when you push the rod in it will sit where you park it, your stone will be facing upwards to add more water or drizzle some detergent on finer stones or will just set there while you're changing stones and wiping off slurry. I would send you a pic to save reading but I don't know how.
@@jerrywormeyhicks7427 Most people that review them get the sharpener for free. They are either unaware or rarely use it. Having said that its a bit cumbersome to quickly "park" it, so I can see why someone would just drop it.
Politely disagree. As you move along the blade edge (blade of any any geometry except for circular) the angle is changing. It is obvious. The smallest angle is at the blade ends, the largest at the blade center. You can easily measure the angle if you can not calculate it. The angle difference for longer rods is not substantial though. No offence please.
I like your disagreement. Very polite, nicely done. I politely counter disagree. Think of the pitch of the roof of a house. The roof gutters representing the edge of the knife. Now run a string from one center point on the roof to various spots on the gutters. Measure the angle perpendicular to the gutter (which is the way you must measure the angle of a bevel of a knife) and the angle is exactly the same no matter where on the roof you measure. The same thing happens with fixed pivot point sharpeners as long as the blade is straight. Does that analogy help out? Again, your manners are excellent and I thank you for that. If all disagreements on the internet were this civil, that would be a beautiful thing. All the best to you. Cheers👍
@@Simplelittlelife Even if the angle is changing, its just a few degrees. Its not going from 20 to 15 or so. If you look on his knive when hes showing us the edge, the width of the edge is almost completely the same from the ricasso to the tip. If it would change dramaticly then the with of the edge would change.
@@rnr4204 Because it is false. In his analogy both the string and roof are in the same plane. A better example would be with a flat roof and the string mounted 30ft high on a pole. If you move the string along the edge of the roof. The angle of the string in relation to the roof plane changes as it moves from corner to the middle of the edge and then on to the next corner. Shallowest angle would be when the string is at a corner and the steepest when it on the midpoint.
Chris Parker I thought about it and you sir are correct. His analogy would be correct if the roof was cone shaped or what he was sharpening was round. The front part of the blade might be close to the the same due to it being rounded, but the closer to the handle you go the more off it would be. I stand corrected.
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I just received my K03 today and boy was I excited...until I tried to get a 22.5 degree angle. The lift movement won't go higher than 20.1 degrees. I'm sure it's something obvious that I missed during assembly. Can you please tell me how to remedy this issue.
It depends on the knife. Kitchen knives usually 17-20 (again depends on the knife and type of steel) and outdoor or general utility knives get sharpened to 20-23 degrees. 👍
Beautifully made, but the price?! Insane just for sharpening knives. I've bought a £20 Chinese version, which with a little tweaking works just as well to paper slicing sharpness. However after the novelty wore off I found the set up and actual process a pain. I now use the edge of a plywood disc with compound on it on the grinder. Takes seconds and gets the same results after a few passes on a strop as well. Thanks for the video. PS The stone grit number on the stone will disappear as you use it. I used and engraver on the backs to record what grits they were before it disappeared.
Tormek and these kind of systems are vastly different. Tormek will give you a factory edge or even a bit better but these kinds of systems with the right stones can give you insane edges.
You said that you wished that the Wicked Edge had the rod stops implemented to stop you from scratching the blade or something.. Honestly that confused me because I can't figure out how or why you'd need it.
On the Blitz 360 model there is an angle adjustment dial to account for the varying thicknesses of different stones. Do you know why this adjustment is not needed on the K03 model? Also, you mentioned possibly slipping and cutting your hand. I would put in a hand guard just behind the wooden knob. A thin hand guard can be made out of a thin piece of plywood, plastic, or cardboard
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Gorgeous bloody Gorgeous. A Work of art......
Man has come a long way from using rock's to sharpen thing's...
Well some of us have.
Bought mine about 18 months ago and I must say, one of the best things I have bought. I suck and hand sharpening, and the belt thing was not for me. Gets a huge thumbs up from me. I have the loaded 02.
Right on! 👍
You mentioned your liking ceramic stones. I share that. I made 3 ceramics (500/1200/2000) for the K03/EdgePro using stones offered by Idahone. Unfortunately, only one of the stones is an exact fit but they all work. Also, I learned from someone that applying Windex to the ceramic stone greatly reduces the residue on the stone and what is left is easily cleaned off.
I have this unit and have also had a WE, Edge Pro and KME. In my opinion and I am not a pro but the TSPROF is s much better system than the rest.
Swigg's Shank Shack In what ways? Why not a House of Blades sharpener or Tormek T4?
This one is also TSPROF. And model is KO3. Which model are you talking about. Which TSPROF mod are you taking. Please specify. It will be great help to choose a knife sharpner.
I got my K03 yesterday. When setting it up I came to the conclusion the allen screws on the clamps are different sizes because you want to have both of the allen keys in at the same time. Therefore making it easy to keep the clamps parallel without having to keep moving the allen key.
You can turn them at the same time and its way quicker than adjusting the front one, then move the allen key to the other screw, then adjust that one a bit, then go back and check the first one and so on.
They use different sized keys so you dont have 2 of the same size. That gives you more options when using these allen wrenches/keys on other things than the TSPROF. Thats Russian thinking 😉
Apologies if this has already been said.
After learning to hand sharpen on water stones I still find this beast sucking me into it's coolness vortex. Damn.
James Barisitz don’t let it. Just don’t. You can make a better edge yourself.
You mention making your own stone assemblies with a strip of aluminum. I did that with a leather strop - works great. Thanks for the video - goo detail.
These systems are nice but too expensive for me so I've just invested my time into strengthening & improving my hand sharpening techniques. Love your channel & content. Stay safe my friend.
Adam, you can do it yourself. Just search for "File guide", Gough Custom made nice one. It mostly known for making main bevels, but you can use different sandpaper instead of a file for sharpening. This thing is similar to the one shown in the video, but cheaper hundred times:))
@@alexanderbell4976 I've seen that before & it's pretty good. I chose to do it my way. Thank you though.
Adam Huffman what is ur way?
@@jaspertipper9649 whetstone, oil stone, etc
Looks like it is a well built sharpener, thanks for sharing
This is the Ferrari if knife sharpeners. This thing is about precision and ease. This is the Sharpener Hattori Hanzo would have used were it available when he was making samurai swords. ⚔️
I just got one for free and seeing this video shows it looks complex but rather simple to use and holy shit did it put an edge back on some knives I carry and the kitchen knives 😮 this device is insanely awsome simple and does what it's suppose to
Nice! That thing looks like it belongs in a lab, I love the look of finely machined parts. Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next build. I hope that you and yours are well, take care.
"keep control of the nob" jeremy-simple little life - 2019 good job!
Lol I missed that one
hah ha very funny!
@@roscoemarshall7307 it was funny along with putting lube on the shaft lol
“There is some girth to it”
@@josh3594 lmao yeah that too
Best system I have viewed yet.
I think the screws are different sizes since the rear screws are holding a bigger piece of the knife clamp. The front of the clamp is a thinner piece of metal and only requires a smaller screw. If anything they could have used the larger screws for all three.
You're doing it wrong. (Just kidding!)
It's a very expensive sharpening system, otherwise I'd have one. As it is I have the Work Sharp Professional Precision Adjust, along with a few aftermarket addons purchased here and there along with some nice diamond stones. I also have, for my larger knives, some paper wheels (grit and no grit) that I use on a variable-speed (reversed motor) buffer. I do manage to get my knives nice and sharp with what I have, yes, but I do plan to get a TSPROF some day. I enjoy watching these kinds of videos, and this one was a pleasure, so thank you for letting us hang out and sharpen with you!
I want one so bad, nice video thanks
To prove the angle argument, you could set your camera up on end to either sharpener so the viewing angle shows the triangle between the stone, stand, and blade. By then sharpening a straight blade, the stone would move toward and away from the camera, but keep the same angle with the blade at all times. That would be a good way to depict it for the people that still don't understand...
I did that in a video about 2 years ago 👍
That looks solid 👍
It doesn't get any better than this system for sharpening
At 8:29....the 2 different allen screw sizes are so that you can use them both at the same time to get the right thickness and tension on clamping yur blade in.......I really like the upgrades they did on this kit.......
Oh maybe that’s why they did that. From a usability standpoint I really don’t like it. I’d rather have one tool and go between the two. But you’re right on the upgrades. This is sweet! 👍
Nicely done!
Great video and review, thank you!
I wish I could afford to buy one, they look like they do an amazing job of sharpening.
I looked this up omg $900 I could never think about paying that much for a knife sharpener
James Brandon There are photos of sharpeners on websites given this new ‘K03’ designation, but none of the pics I’ve come across are showing the new ratchet style adjustment, only the old style. If you have a link to this model please share it, as currently it’s not even on the official site. Cheers🍻
Griffiths Handmade-Knives there on eBay now friend , with new rack and piñon elevation mechanism . Just ordered mine today ....
@@griffithshandmade-knives the one that comes in the box like the one that is in this video is on Amazon for $520. I just looked it up. Still, thats a lot of dough.
The whole angle argument is really easy to confirm. Just use the level app on your iphone that shows angle degrees. just keep it parallel to the edge of the blade. The angle of the stone as it touches the edge of the blade will remain on the same plane because not only does the angle of the rod change, but so does the angle of the stone as the rod turns.
AWESOME video as always jeremy. can't wait for the next knnife build. XD
Thank you! 👍
Very interesting sharpener. thanks for sharing
Looks like it does a good job sharpening knives.
you can buy one from zanvak store
hi, but your angle changes with the "wideness" of your blade, in proportion to the clamps. your degree dialer is only set for the setup you made. if the blades goes further in or out (to the sharpener), the angle changes.
You have a Video out where you loved the Wicked Edge and now you have the TSPROF what i want to know is which one you think is the better one sense you have now used them both. Thanks
Lubrication .. proudly bought to you by AvE.
very nicely made machine but yes the different size screws would piss me off
Лучший обзор заточной системы. Все по делу и без лишней воды. Спасибо.
точилка для аутистов
Почему? Все хвалят, вроде.
Please please please make a video on how to care for kitchen and chef knives, especially the carbon Damascus ones, this would be a huge help👍
$520 on amazon....I can think of a lot of other knife making supplies or tools that I could get for that kind of dough!
idiots was always, idiots are exist, idiots always be - thats the main target of that bullshit
I would order this sharpener but at this time they seem not to be available. In addition, I wonder on the long haul what the service would be from them or for parts.
very nice tool !
Jeremy you have many sharpening systems that you use and have tried. If you could only have one what would it be?
Paper wheel
Very good video! I love this Russian product. Very well crafted.
Check into getting a leather strop from an old barber shop. Long, thick with no backer board.
Appreciate the review of this tool, well done.
If simplicity is the ultimate sophistication I feel that there is still a bit to be desired here. Reaching for multiple drivers on small fasteners seems that it might get problematic over time.
I'm trying to find reasons to want something other than my Edge Pro but I'm not sold yet.
I looked at this model at the Blade Show in Atlanta and was told they would not be ready to ship until late August.
USA web site says in stock.
Hey man love your videos that iv seen. New to knife making an wondering what u would recommend or use urself when u polish knife blades
Wicked Edge miles above this system. You should really check it out. both sides sharpened at the same time. tons of stone options.
I have a WE130. Have for over 2 years. People hate that system because of the price.
@@Simplelittlelife WE130 is 575. This is between 7-900.
So TSPROF K03 or Wicked Edge?
Big fan of your videos. If you could only get one K03 or a wicked edge pro? Thanks
fyi: when you strop a knife that you just sharpened to lets say 20 degrees and the stropping is not done at that same angle you will dull your blade. that's why you buy stropping stones that mount on your tsprof
Forgive, I don't know if you have said how to buy it, it interests me a lot and I don't know where to buy it.
I am from Spain.
Thank you
Preach it, the angle stays the same
Hahahaha yeah! I get at least 10 emails right after I mention it. It’s crazy 🤪
@@DF-sf5nl Thanks for the comment Derek. I think your example is looking at the problem from incorrect points and your introducing geometry and point of measurement that do not exist on the sharpener. Anyway. I stand by what I said, the angle does not change. If you disagree, great. You're entitled to do that. Cheers 👍
I will start with thanks for a great video. And I am NOT a pro knife sharpener. But I understand the physics of what is happening on the process.
1st I LOVE the way you get frustrated with people not understanding how the angle stays constant on a straight blade. Math is not for everyone. lol
2nd. If you sharpen more from the heal or the knife to the tip and back, instead of into the blade and back out of the blade you will find you get less burr. And probably even a finer edge. Just the physics of the stone on an edge. I have no idea if you really need to start this method with the coarsest stones? Im not that patient so I would probably do the 1st stone like you do as in and out of the blade just to remove more material faster. But as I worked into finer grits I would work across the edge not into it.
I hand sharpened a lot of chisels and small knifes by hand. I think my uncle some 45 years ago taught me to go across the blade not into it.
Great video. Which I had to coin just to have one.
Thanks much. tom
thanks for sharing .
Do you prefer this system over the wicked edge ?
I always love your angle explanations.
What is the price of this sharpening system ? Really like it
Where do you buy your wet stones? Are you using the same process 1000/6000 grit?
tried making a leather strop that fits in the jig? i have one for my lansky, love it
That is a brilliant idea! I think I’ll have to do that. Thank you 🙏👍
at 8:30 those should ideally be thumb screws, you dont wanna mess around with silly wrenches and drivers
I agree 100% 👍
HELP! I just received my K03 and need your help. I cannot raise the angle higher than 22°. The rack and pinion can't raise any higher since the adjustment tower cannot go any higher, it bottoms out. The manual gauge goes to 40°, not that I need that, but I need more than 22°. Any ideas?
How small of a knife can you sharpen with that? I'm usually sharpening small skinning knives and hunting knives, 10 inch max.
Nice very nice.
Could you please do a tormek t8 review! I have one and im a little disappointed. Wondering what you think? Also you should rig up something for sharpening along the same lines as that sharpener but for a 2x72 belt grinder
I will be disappointed if I pay full price for a new Tormek t8 but 150$ from pawnshop totally acceptable. It’s only one 220 grit wet wheel stone and then need to do rest of all other sending and polishing numbers, what is again extra cost $
How is the compared to an Edgepro Professional 4 or their new Beveltech 4?
I have no idea
You set it up to use the max amount of the stone - then use just the centre with small, quick strokes!
You commented on my video!
So if you theoretically moved along the strait blade for 1000 meters the angle wouldn’t decrease at all?
I am waiting for mine :)
Where can I order one?
Got mine today can’t wait to play
Great video. But, could you slow down, poindexter?? I didn’t understand what you were talking about with the angle of the blade😂
I'm gonna say it. I don't want to upset you because you're Canadian (I assume) and so very nice. BUT, the bevel angle does change - minutely but it does. When you move from end to end of the knife you are only adjusting 2 sides of a right angle triangle - the height stays constant. To keep the same angles all 3 sides would need to change to the same ratio. I'm an Aussie so very nearly as nice as you...
I appreciate your tact. Very much so. Really nice to be able to have a discussion on opposed views without rudeness. Thank you for that. I do have to (politely) say that I stand by my statements. We are working only on one plane when you sharpen a knife. The bevel is always only measured perpendicular to the edge. Just like the roof of a house, if you measure the pitch of the roof perpendicular to the gutter, it does not change. Now, mount a giant version of this sharpener to a central point on the top of the roof. Swing it back and forth just like this sharpener on a blade. The pitch of the roof never changes when you measure perpendicular to the gutter (which represents the edge of the knife. Maybe that helps a bit? If not, we can agree to disagree. If more comments were like yours youtube would be so much better for discussions and enjoyment as a creator. Thank you again. Cheers👍
@@Simplelittlelife I agree, TH-cam can be a pleasant place to exchange ideas. I'm going to have to experiment - just in my nature. If I'm wrong I shall be the first to say so. BTW, I'm building my own version of the Wicked Edge from extrusions typically used in CNC machines to hold material under work. I think the contraption will be as accurate, albeit less refined. Cost will be around £50 using Faalkniven D4 sharpening stones and home made strop. All the best and I really enjoy the drama-less videos.
Nice...now can I afford one...thank U
I would never spend the kind of money that TSPROF is asking for there sharpeners. This sharpener costs $1200.00 in Canada. I can buy 4 Work Sharp® Professional Precision Adjust Knife Sharpeners for the price of the TSPROF sharpeners. I will gladly stick with my Work Sharp® Professional Precision Adjust Knife Sharpener.
This looks like the K02 on there homepage. The K03 looks different (Digital angle meassuring) is this right?
No, the main difference between K03 and K02 is in the lifting unit. This one uses a pinion and the K02 was a simple thumb screw.
You can purchase a digital angle cube separately.
Regarding the angle: experiment ALWAYS trumps calculation. In this case, the angle gauge on the machine moves when the actual angle to the edge changes -- but you can see (even when the blade curves slightly), that the gauge actually doesn't move; meaning yes, the angle is not changing. It COULD change if the blade curved really radically -- in a very strange edge the blade could curve and come around almost to the point of being right below the pivot, and in that case the sharpening angle would be almost 90 degrees, thereby dulling the edge. But, as long as that gauge doesn't move (and it doesn't in this demonstration) then the angle doesn't change. If it DID change slightly that would only mean that the angle was slightly different on different parts of the blade, and that wouldn't make a noticeable difference. And in fact, if the bevel appears to be the same HEIGHT along the edge, then the angle is substantially the same (as long as blade thickness from the edge remains equal along the length of the blade, which it does in most knives (until you get right at the tip....).
LOVED the vid! Thanks.
Do you like it better than the 130 wicked edge? Does it clamp thicker blades like a 7.6mm ?
Could you possibly leave a link for the stones you are using I can’t seem to find a nice set for this system. Those look like the perfect length
Wish I could afford some of these knife sharpeners 😂 one day
I will repeat, I wish I could afford these 😭😭😭
e-Rekt eBay is my friend
Someone might buy the sharpener, and then they can't afford steel to make any knives!!
@e-Rekt - you might have missed my joke.
@e-Rekt - doesn't matter. Wasn't all that funny anyway
Seguro que es clarísimo,pero es lo mejor que visto en internet.
Where do they "TsProf" manufacture their sharpeners? I can't find any info on it
I’m pretty sure they are made in Russia.
As I watch another TSPROF review I can't help wondering, why doesn't anyone use the park feature of the holder. They just flop it down on the table. I don't know if they just dont know about it or just prefer to flop it down.
What is the park feature?
@@Simplelittlelife the adjuster for the stop closest to you has the flat piece that stops over the pivot point when it's bumped the spring. If you rotate the rod and put the flat piece on the bottom side when you push the rod in it will sit where you park it, your stone will be facing upwards to add more water or drizzle some detergent on finer stones or will just set there while you're changing stones and wiping off slurry. I would send you a pic to save reading but I don't know how.
idk
@@jerrywormeyhicks7427 Most people that review them get the sharpener for free. They are either unaware or rarely use it.
Having said that its a bit cumbersome to quickly "park" it, so I can see why someone would just drop it.
@@Ducati_Dude Yup
great videos....as always...what are doing with the first unit they sent you now?
Do you keep control of the knob on the lubricated shaft?😳🤣🤣🤣
Couldn't help myself
Hahaha!
Yes, while managing your detent balls.
Politely disagree. As you move along the blade edge (blade of any any geometry except for circular) the angle is changing. It is obvious. The smallest angle is at the blade ends, the largest at the blade center. You can easily measure the angle if you can not calculate it. The angle difference for longer rods is not substantial though. No offence please.
I like your disagreement. Very polite, nicely done. I politely counter disagree. Think of the pitch of the roof of a house. The roof gutters representing the edge of the knife. Now run a string from one center point on the roof to various spots on the gutters. Measure the angle perpendicular to the gutter (which is the way you must measure the angle of a bevel of a knife) and the angle is exactly the same no matter where on the roof you measure. The same thing happens with fixed pivot point sharpeners as long as the blade is straight. Does that analogy help out? Again, your manners are excellent and I thank you for that. If all disagreements on the internet were this civil, that would be a beautiful thing. All the best to you. Cheers👍
@@Simplelittlelife Even if the angle is changing, its just a few degrees. Its not going from 20 to 15 or so. If you look on his knive when hes showing us the edge, the width of the edge is almost completely the same from the ricasso to the tip. If it would change dramaticly then the with of the edge would change.
Simple Little Life the roof analogy is perfect. How people can’t visualize it is beyond me.
@@rnr4204
Because it is false. In his analogy both the string and roof are in the same plane. A better example would be with a flat roof and the string mounted 30ft high on a pole. If you move the string along the edge of the roof. The angle of the string in relation to the roof plane changes as it moves from corner to the middle of the edge and then on to the next corner. Shallowest angle would be when the string is at a corner and the steepest when it on the midpoint.
Chris Parker I thought about it and you sir are correct. His analogy would be correct if the roof was cone shaped or what he was sharpening was round. The front part of the blade might be close to the the same due to it being rounded, but the closer to the handle you go the more off it would be. I stand corrected.
I just received my K03 today and boy was I excited...until I tried to
get a 22.5 degree angle. The lift movement won't go higher than 20.1
degrees. I'm sure it's something obvious that I missed during assembly.
Can you please tell me how to remedy this issue.
Second link I've clicked on for sharpening systems that are unavailable on Amazon...
Hi, how much is this and where to get it
How much was this system ? I must have missed it if he said it .
Hey What grit would you recomend for honing after cooking? Like the every day honing
Leather strop. You can get multiple types of leather mounted on the aluminum blanks, or get blanks and mount your own leather. Work great.
i am a bachelor of science and your angle story is correct, dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
Right on 👍
Where can I get this.
So, I put together a setup to see if the angle does in fact change or not. The video of the results is on my channel if anyone is interested.
Heh, he said detent BALLS, a lot. Yes, I'm 39 going on 13.
Jarod Morris 39/13 = 3
Illuminati confirmed
How would you say this compares to the Hapstone R1?
It’s called a rack and pinion. Girth?? I think you mean mass.
I have a question.. at what angle or degree of angle do you sharpen a knife edge?
It depends on the knife. Kitchen knives usually 17-20 (again depends on the knife and type of steel) and outdoor or general utility knives get sharpened to 20-23 degrees. 👍
What do you use to adjust for stone thickness as the coarse stone wear?
Beautifully made, but the price?! Insane just for sharpening knives. I've bought a £20 Chinese version, which with a little tweaking works just as well to paper slicing sharpness. However after the novelty wore off I found the set up and actual process a pain. I now use the edge of a plywood disc with compound on it on the grinder. Takes seconds and gets the same results after a few passes on a strop as well. Thanks for the video.
PS The stone grit number on the stone will disappear as you use it. I used and engraver on the backs to record what grits they were before it disappeared.
you write the grit size on the back of the stone with a permanent marker
You can put lubrication on my shaft ANYDAY 😅And it doesn't even have to be tenacious
While it looks fantastic and over built, at that price, tormek looks like a better option. Thumbs up on your review!
Tormek and these kind of systems are vastly different.
Tormek will give you a factory edge or even a bit better but these kinds of systems with the right stones can give you insane edges.
You said that you wished that the Wicked Edge had the rod stops implemented to stop you from scratching the blade or something.. Honestly that confused me because I can't figure out how or why you'd need it.
If you get one you’ll know why.
I just went to their website and I can't find a price in English I know that's a stupid question
On the Blitz 360 model there is an angle adjustment dial to account for the varying thicknesses of different stones. Do you know why this adjustment is not needed on the K03 model?
Also, you mentioned possibly slipping and cutting your hand. I would put in a hand guard just behind the wooden knob. A thin hand guard can be made out of a thin piece of plywood, plastic, or cardboard
How did you buy it? I paid to Russian site and got no response since that. Looks like a scam to me....
will the stones from the Apex fit this sharpener ?
Unfortunately not. The stones from the TSPROF are 20 cm in length while the edge pro stones are 17 cm. They're too short :(