PHIL COLLINS: ON AMERICAN DRUMMER CHESTER THOMPSON DRUMMING FOR GENESIS - Revised

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    THIS 2014 INTERVIEW, PHIL COLLINS DESCRIBES HOW HE RECRUITED THE AMERICAN DRUMMER CHESTER THOMPSON TO PLAY DRUMS WITH GENESIS, REPLACING PHIL AS THE PRIMARY TOURING DRUMMER. FROM 1976-2007 . THE HIGH POINT OF THEIR TIME TOGETHER WERE THOSE MOMENTS IN THE SHOW WHEN THEY PLAYED HIGH INTENSITY DRUMMING DUETS.
    WATCH - CHESTER THOMPSON INTERVIEW : DRUMMING WITH GENESIS & PHIL COLLINS here • CHESTER THOMPSON INTE...
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  • @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
    @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

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  • @curiousnomad
    @curiousnomad หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I asked Chester at a clinic once what his three main band leaders expected of him. He said Zappa expected everything to be perfect- like orchestral music. Everything was as Frank expected. He said Zawinul wanted total creativity constantly- always be soloing and interacting, and never the same. He said with Phil and Genesis he was there to serve the music of those groups and basically fill Phil’s role. I’m sure there was some improvisation, but the music was the music.

  • @Rembrant65
    @Rembrant65 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Four sticks, three chairs, two drummers, and one objective, making magic.

  • @forthwithtx5852
    @forthwithtx5852 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Despite all of Phil’s success as a singer, songwriter, composer, etc. one of my favorite drummers of all time. Such an icon.

  • @klnine
    @klnine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Sir Chester and sir Darrell held my band together . thank you both !

  • @simoncooper5803
    @simoncooper5803 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is about the third time I’ve listened to this & it never disappoints. Thanks John

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any other suggestions for similar channels Sir?

  • @RBLevin
    @RBLevin หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great drummer. Among the top 10 ever.

  • @craigchapman8220
    @craigchapman8220 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They are generational talents. I really hope they can mend fences because life is short. I loved watching their duets. We will never see the likes of that again.

  • @susangraham101
    @susangraham101 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He's got such a genuine smile. You can tell he loves what he does and it shows. God Bless him with his physical issues.

  • @stevehardisty6502
    @stevehardisty6502 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been to several of Chester Thompsons drum clinics thanks to Terry Wion at Ace Music years ago. In fact, I was able to meet Phil with Chester introducing me to him through Terry and Chesters friendship. Great bunch of guys and mentors, forever grateful for those moments! I still have Chesters autographed photo and Genesis album cover, and have both sets of thier sticks in my collection... Wonderful years of memories!

  • @davidwylde8426
    @davidwylde8426 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It’s interesting how many times I’ve had discussions on line or even in the ‘real world’ and praised Phil’s drumming,( I’m not a drummer, although I have programmed beats and been lucky enough to work and compose with fantastic real drummers), and they’re almost a little shocked that I could rate him ‘so’ highly….. until you drop the quotes of other world class drummers,( often their heroes), and what they have said about him, and suddenly they’re all like …. ‘I should probably check him out’.
    Precisely, … if you haven’t even bothered to listen to him then don’t comment.
    Same as the other half of his rhythm section … Rutherford. Fuckin insane player.

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Watched the pair of them play together at Earls Court in 1994 Genesis We Can’t Dance tour and they had the entire audience hypnotised and honestly stunned by their skills and awesome dexterity and I’m very glad to have been there, thanks again Mr Uploader of your wonderful channel and please keep it coming Sir. 🥁🎤🎺🎧

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m mostly focused on their duet mid concert and the incredible affect they had upon our behaviour in the audience, unbelievable music that was just never to be heard from again and we all knew that fact which made the whole duration of their performance together even more magical..😂👏🥁

  • @HippoYnYGlaw
    @HippoYnYGlaw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    What a smile! Phil's a real trooper. 'Very easy to get on with' ... You did very well to discuss this aspect of Genesis with him. Thanks for sharing.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m so glad I found him before I became a political being but I’m not going to let that affect my views or opinions on him change because his and his bandmates are a magical part of our young lives that can’t be surpassed. Thanks 🙏 🎺🎧🎚️☘️👏

    • @joecancer6013
      @joecancer6013 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DaveSCameronI liked Genesis and Phil, until he went with Epstein

    • @TheAmarok87
      @TheAmarok87 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joecancer6013 There's a list online with full details on each celebrity, ones which went to the island, ones for business and ones which were just contacts. Phil is listed thankfully just as a contact. Not everyone a pedophile knows is one themselves, thought that would be obvious. Rich people sometimes just like to meet other rich people and hangout and just meet. Doesn't always have to be for devilish things
      Besides, Courtney Love is in there too. She was one of the first to throw shit at Weinstein so I don't think this in itself means anything.

  • @Jeff-rh8mq
    @Jeff-rh8mq หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seen Genesis 5 times since the early 80's and have still to this day been the best shows of of my life!

  • @Neal_Schier
    @Neal_Schier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for uploading this. Very much like the story here!

  • @silvia6068
    @silvia6068 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great interview, I love listening to Phil talk...thank you!! 🥁🎤🎶

  • @396Cap
    @396Cap 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great interview. Watched lots of your Genesis and Phil Collins interviews. Thanks John.

  • @steveton9155
    @steveton9155 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. Fantastic

  • @fd1930
    @fd1930 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much for this John
    As always, insightful but responsible and non pushy, you bring the best out in Phil and in all these docs you do
    Great to hear you again!

  • @mathewj.deroko4856
    @mathewj.deroko4856 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Phenomenal line of questioning sir. Phil’s sticks produced by Promark in the late 80s to early 90’s were in fact shorter than your average drumstick. Another question I’ve always wanted to ask him was how he did the drum bit of the tom crash tom crash (usually simultaneously hit or in beat) as part of the ending to “Against All Odds” and incorporated in a lot of his solo/Genesis work came about and how he developed it. Thank you for sharing!

  • @abundantYOUniverse
    @abundantYOUniverse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First! I appreciate these so much Mr. Edgington!

  • @WintersWar
    @WintersWar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Primo material John. I always wondered if Phil ever talked about his tambourine dance routine idea? Another fun moment along with the drum duets.

  • @jeffdawson2786
    @jeffdawson2786 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Adding Chester was a great move.

  • @rogermoscrop4523
    @rogermoscrop4523 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Before Genesis Phil Collins was a successful session drummer. Chester mentions Phil was self taught). The study (transcription of Genesis and Phil’s playing, including his technique which was represented in ‘Phil’s style’, was the foundation of Chester’s observations. CT was emphatic Phil and he hit it off from the ‘Go’.
    The drummer will use, the sticks, mallets, brushes etc for the music and situation. Stick weight & length will be more to personal taste / technique [sticking and style]. The interview process seems boarding on confrontational? The line about kids sticks, very funny 🤣 Well taken Phil ✊

  • @volkswagent6raillad850
    @volkswagent6raillad850 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’ve often wondered how the years would’ve transpired if Bill Brufford had carried on

  • @krusher74
    @krusher74 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Compaired to standard length/average drumsticks andthe average length on most pro players signature sticks, Collions are about 1 inch short and thompsons about 1" long, they are at the 2 extremes. about as far apart as you would find in signature sticks.

  • @RGB06084
    @RGB06084 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who'd have thunk it? Chester had a longer stick than Phil, but Phil hits it harder!

  • @malcolmhobden4350
    @malcolmhobden4350 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thought Phil might have mentioned he had actually asked Simon Phillips first to join Genesis but Simon was contacted to the Jack Bruce band so he had decline Phil's offer. So Chester got the gig. Genesis

  • @alkebulansan
    @alkebulansan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love both theses dudes, Phil and Chester. When Mr.Collins said he wanted to put the funk into Genesis, when I listen to The Lamb, that's exactly what I feel, there's so much groove and funk in that album starting with obviously, Fly on a Windshield.
    And should you be curious about Chester's jazz drumming you must check out Air Pocket and their album Fly On, super heavy changes and delightful intricacies. And finally, Phil Chester I hope you've made up and are now friends again, dumb to squander a deep friendship.

  • @cintrepdchannel5854
    @cintrepdchannel5854 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why do they refer to Chester and Daryl as "American" drummer/guitarists all the time? You don't see people referring to Phil and Mike as British musicians.🙃

  • @robertnobody
    @robertnobody หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chester spent 30 years in Genesis as a touring drummer, but he had a falling out with Phil Collins in 2010 and they haven't spoken since.

    • @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
      @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not according to Phil. He told me he called Chester shortly before this interview in 2014

    • @scrambaba
      @scrambaba หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIESNot sure if it was 2014 or whenever, but Chester himself says that they haven‘t spoken in years, if I recall correctly.

  • @SuperQdaddy
    @SuperQdaddy หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well I hope chester got paid well..after dedicating most his career playing Phil's music...ive noticed the look on his face...alot of the music is emotional..its just a shame..thats all

  • @christ.8547
    @christ.8547 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🆒caT!!...💙🎯💯🌎✌🏽😇..(RoCK ON!...🤘🏽)

  • @IThinkYouLookLarvely
    @IThinkYouLookLarvely หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:50 I think that's Mike joining in, he's such a diplomatic chap! Hasty edit : On listening again it's not him- I'm hearing Giles Martin (vocally similar, but probably not him!!)

    • @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
      @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s Graham - my wonderful cameraman who’s also a musician.

    • @IThinkYouLookLarvely
      @IThinkYouLookLarvely หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES Ah, thank you for the clarification John. And for all these uniquely insightful videos of course.

  • @stevewoo8154
    @stevewoo8154 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did he say he didn't want to talk about the fall out, or did you just not want to go there?

    • @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
      @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I understood from Phil that they did talk privately in 2014 shortly before this interview. It was obvious there was sensitivity about it. I didn't feel it was necessary to go there for the purpose of this filming, which was a very broad brush mainly covering the 1980s,90s.

    • @IThinkYouLookLarvely
      @IThinkYouLookLarvely หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES I'm hoping things are better between them now (and either way, at least it's not as feudal as the Waters/ Gilmour situation, which I'm sure it's not!)

  • @user-qt1rr5tk9i
    @user-qt1rr5tk9i หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chester said he got the blame for this and that

  • @gatchpaints
    @gatchpaints หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's tough to have two drummers in a band unless you start out on world tours with large stages. Local bands playing in bars don't have room for two drummers to set up. Where would a band like that even play?

  • @TVGuy729
    @TVGuy729 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Too bad they dont speak to each other anymore...

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really, sad to hear about this…😊

    • @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES
      @JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @TVGuy729 I understood from Phil that they did talk privately in 2014 shortly before this interview.

  • @rodericde876
    @rodericde876 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can’t swing Collins subs a jazz drummer to play for him.

  • @gnyx1566
    @gnyx1566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bit forward of the cameraman there interjecting. How dare he. Although, could have a point?

    • @gnyx1566
      @gnyx1566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hee hee.

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can tell Phil has drank a lot of alcohol in his life.

    • @codersexpo1580
      @codersexpo1580 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How? How can you tell?

    • @j.t.cooper2963
      @j.t.cooper2963 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@codersexpo1580 First of all it's no secret that he was a self admitted alcoholic for years and you can see the damage it's done to him physically. If you want to know the exact damage I suggest you read up on what alcoholism does to you and then you will see the signs yourself.

    • @Bobaman5400
      @Bobaman5400 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No you cant. Youre just trying to sound educated on youtube. 90% of long term alcohol effects are with blood/cholesterol, organs & digestive. None of which could you tell by looking at somebody for a few minutes. He looks normal. Dont be a 🤡

    • @joecancer6013
      @joecancer6013 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Epstein client

    • @user-nv2gw1tt5o
      @user-nv2gw1tt5o หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup - you can see the regression in motor skills, eye contact, taking. I just lost my 44 year old boss to it. Same changes.