As an ex-programmer from Asia I happen to be in a conversion master programme of CS in UK now. I totally agree with you that you don't pay so much for the knowledge, because nowadays you can learn almost everything online for free. But if you need a CS degree to prove yourself in job market, or an opportunity to work in UK, that would be different.
@@karolinasowinska Yeah fully online, half-year's Zoom university so far XD. But now I can make friends from various cultures, which I couldn't before.
Hello, I'm studying Electronics and Communication Engineering in India and planning to do MSc computer science. Am I eligible to directly or do I have to go with conversion computer science?
@@kesavanm3788 The UK is going to release a new visa policy, so you may have better choices now. Especially if you have several years of related study or work experience, it's possible to get a job directly without a local degree. Study in a conversion master's programme is a more cautious way if you don't lack time and money. (personal idea above)
Yes I have First degree in an Arts subject , completed an expensive very demanding MBA from a good University in Scotland but have now started another Masters in Computer Science which I'm finding the programming side very tough . The thing is you could learn all this yourself through the web and reading various books but employers would be not as impressed as from Imperial College , UCL or even Birkbeck College or Oxford or Cambridge Universities !!!
Excellent message! I agree, education is very important. However, a lot of people out there still think that universities are the only place where you can an education from. Like you said, we can now learn in/on many places. Keep the videos coming.
As someone currently on a masters conversion in this department (at a different UK university) I feel a bit short changed by it so far. I think I went in to it naively thinking I would be taught like it was an apprenticeship but I'm actually essentially teaching myself 95% of it, which I could have done anyway WITHOUT paying thousands to go to lectures to be told what to go and study. Then there's all the strict academic rules regarding assignments which is back in my life after many years since originally leaving uni. High stress, high cost, it bloody better be worth it at the end is all I will conclude with.
Totally relatable. What you do get is a diploma/something to put on your CV. I think it's worth it/it does make it so much easier to get a job in the field. Good luck with the studies!
If you are an EU person reading this, aside from going to the too universities in the UK I would instead pick Denmark or other countries of the Nordic area where you will deal with language issues of course , but the big plus is that the entire course is for free and you don't get a loan you have to pay afterwards. Arguably if your target market is the UK you can say that the cost you pay for can get compensated on your upcoming salary which will be a lot easier to get i you do the course in the UK. The thing about the course is that it not only has structure but what having structure means for the employer (and yourself). That makes it quite specific about what it is you can do and to what extent can be expected of you without of going in the trouble of hackathons or similar things while job hunting.
Hello. I know this is an old comment, but I am looking for conversion courses in Denmark and can't find any. Do you know what I should search for exactly? Thank you anyway!
I liked how honest this video was. I have a BS in EET and I was thinking of getting a master's in CS, but I had some doubts. Now, I am not sure what should I get next.
Thanks for your video! Im also a student studying Economics and mathematics in undergrad. I'm now waiting for a response from Imperial. Wish all the best!
Hi, I've heard that the conversion Master's at Imperial is very competitive (obviously they ask for a 1:1). Apart from good undergraduate grades, do you have any tips on how to make your application stand out? What did you write about in the personal statement since it's hard to write with little experience?
Thanks for the video! I was wondering what sort of undergrad background other students had? Is it primarily STEM subjects? I'd love to study this & have been saving for a while, but my undergrad was in Architecture (UCL) - not much quantitative thinking, sadly :( (The best I have is A-levels in further maths / physics!)
There was one person in my year who did architecture before :) In genereal people had various backgrounds (such as philosophy and law), but I'd say that overwhelming majority was coming from either economics or engineering. Good luck with the application process! :)
Hey! I can't remember very well at this point, but ultimately the schedule didn't matter. Everyone was either in classes or in computer labs basically all the time!
Thank you for this video! As a law student, I've always felt a lot of pressure to become a lawyer - but I'm not sure whether I want to be a lawyer. I've always had particular interest in legal topics which intersected with ComSci like internet regulation, data protection, and copyright law. Being able to be qualified to do both Law and ComSci has always intrigued me and this video has really helped explain the ComSci conversion course really well! Can I ask though what level of maths is required to do the course? I don't do a STEM degree and my maths is not very good X_X
It depends on a particular MSc course. Check their requirements on theirs websites. I imgine there are courses that don't require you to have ay background in maths! :)
Hi Karolina! I got accepted to Imperial for the same conversion course and I'm wondering if the cost is worth it for overseas students. I'm expected to pay 36k pounds if I choose to enrol this September which is quite an exorbitant amount, but if I can get a SDE job in London after graduating it would be fine. How likely is it for someone from outside of Europe to land a job in the UK with this course? Thank you so much!
I would like to make a major career change from psychology to computer science.. however I acquire little knowledge on the topic. With a 2.1 psychology bsc what route would you recommend I take?
if your out of town for example albany ny being a student in london. the loan is given to you as long as you dont got an income. if your under disability you get grants in the uk for free.
Hey, great video! On a scale of 10, how hard is the course? On an average how many hours you have to devote for independent study per day? Is there an option to skip the dissertation? Any prep work that you would recommend for the course? have you any idea about the comp sci conversion course at Newcastle?
It was hands down 10/10 for me haha! On average... people only take breaks for food and sleep. I'm sorry to paint such a dramatic scenario, but that's really how it was! You can't skip your Master's thesis. Prep work... learning C++ beforehand would be so useful! I haven't heard about the Newcastle course.
I'm in Finland and working as SWE at a once the largest phone manufacturer company's cloud software network management system organization. I was thinking about my choice for Master's as a non tech degree holder. My choices were limited to University of Applied Sciences since normal universities strictly require previous CS or Engineering Bachelor's. For me, got any opinions for 1) Cyber Security or 2) AI and Data Analytics engineering? Also, is an MSc worth it at all?
Hi Karolina! If you are unsure of whether you'd like to do data science, data engineering, or machine learning engineering and are interested in research, what do you recommend for a good master's degree? Are computer science, data science, applied math, and statistics pretty equal? I have a background in engineering. Thank you!!
I'm an Economics graduate like yourself with an offer for computer science (cyber security) MSc from university of Kent. I'm passionate about this course but I'm nervous I might struggle with no programming experience. Any advice?
Hello Karolina, Is it recommend to code all the machine learning algorithms from scratch so that I can learn math behind it or just understand and start to code?
I'm studying Electronics and Communication Engineering now. Am I eligible to do MSc Computer science directly or do I have to go with conversion computer science? In my Current UG I had 4 modules regarding computer science till now and I'm also having programming skills like Java, Data structures and algorithms, HTML, CSS, JavaScript.
In some universities they will accept you for Advance computer science courses like Loughborough University but some universities prefer you for conversion courses so the point is you need to choose wisely while doing application.
Had a quick question about the loan and stuff, was this the postgraduate loan? And if so, I'm a bit worried that it doesn't even cover all of the tuition, let alone any living costs
@@karolinasowinska Yeah it is a pain.. Were there any other loans you got? Or grants or scholarships? Thanks for the video btw, was very useful to get a better feel for what it would be like!
Hey! I have a medical background and want to do a conversion MSc in CS with Data Science for transitioning into research. However, since I am based in EU, I have to do it online and the options are therefore scarce (only low ranked unis such as Sunderland, Keele, Wolverhampton etc offer online options). Do you think it's worth it? Given that conversion MSc are generally frowned upon by employers and to that you'd add the modestly placed universities. Worth it or not? Regards
The beautiful 😻 girl from Internet is back. ❤️ how are you? Yesterday I interviewed few people in my company. I also think people who know C++ are at an advantage as they can understand Java and C much easier. Also I subscribe that college can be temporary but learning is forever.
@@karolinasowinska I interviewed 7 and finally took 2. The last candidate was star potential. He even got a patent filing in his name. The other candidate came from an economically weaker background and appeared hard working. He had 1 year of gap after class 12 before his graduation and told me that he aspired to become a defence personnel primarily to support his family as his father is a farmer. So as to supplement his fathers income. But then since he has breathing problem due to which he failed the fitness test, he did engineering in mechanical engineering. I urged other interviewer to consider him and thankfully the other interviewer understood. It was nice experience for me...first time I am in this situation from the other side of the table.
I am graduated in business studied a Graduate IT Diploma in NZ. To be a Data Engineer, do you think it would be better if I do a Master in Computer Science or in Data Science?
@@karolinasowinska do you also think that studying programming before enrolling in the course can make the course load easier? Thank you for your answer by the way!
Hii.. You told that the course employability is very good. So are you and your batch mates employed and happy now?? I am from India and did study economics(same as you) in my undergraduates and currently looking to get into some conversion programme.
Hi I'm from Kerala, India. I've completed Electronics and Communication Engineering (B Tech) in Kerala. But my decision was wrong I'm in to CS. I don't want to work in Electronics field. What If I do Msc in CS (Information and Communication Technology to be specific) conversion course in the UK, will it be worth it? Is this is good idea?. And I want to settle in the UK too, is there a possibility to get a skilled worker visa after this?
oO i had memory management in my first or second semester of studiying game engineering - i agree its really usefull but i wouldnt go do a master for it ^^
IMO, getting a formal uni education these days is just to show employers that you can commit and/or work hard at something. I totally agree that you can get most of the information online. When I was living in London I ended up doing heaps of MOOCs for programming in my spare time for about 4 years while I was working at a pub. At the end of 2020 I decided to go back to my home country Australia and study a degree in applied computer science. I'm absolutely shredding my degree, I would go as far to say that some of the MOOCs i've done were much more difficult than my undergraduate computer science courses. I would also say i think that the course delivery method of unis are so out-dated. 2-3 hour lectures to deliver content, big oof. Universities cannot compete with online learning it seems, because I learnt better and found it more enjoyable with MOOCs even though I'm doing well at uni. I still think there is value in a university degree, but I feel that may change soon if they don't 'modernise' their approach.
what are MOOCs? also do you know of anything a non-tech student who wanted to apply for a comp conversion masters could do to brace themselves for the content? thanks!
Uni is not a game changer anymore , now a days if you are good at something there are lot of ways to let people know... and internet gives acces to knowledg to almos every one. But you have to put the work on your own, Tho one thing that universities are good at, is networking and pushing you to get things done. So, moral of the stoy... if you go to uni just to get a degree,probably you did something wrong, uni is all about makingconnections By the way... Dont you wanna be my friend? (I am linving in an adult world as well)
I think for you guys the best thing about a uni course is getting the visa to work in your intended country! too bad India doesn't have enough good opportunities
Both are great and depend what you’re looking for. Data Science are relatively new. The government are putting investments in some Data Science courses.
It is... Many people don't pay it off in their lifetime. But it is a relatively safe loan, and if you don't earn above a certain threshold, you won't have to repay it.
@@karolinasowinska I am asking because I have missed out on the opportunity of a computer science degree apprenticeship which would pay for tuition fees, I have an offer for a standard computer science degree for which I would have to a student loan out for. I’m debating whether it would be best wait and apply for the degree apprenticeship next year or just going with the standard degree
@@unwrittenfilms9958 it's hard to say what's better, but I'd be probably leaning towards getting a degree, just because many employers still want to see it. Paying off the loan is basically like paying a tax on your earnings - it's taken automatically, and you don't have to worry about it if you don't have a job. I think it's an ok deal!
@@karolinasowinska Yh I agree I think i would rather pay it than wait a year for a very competitive degree apprenticeship 😅. Also I wanted to ask, would you recommend a year in industry (and what can I do to increase my chances to get a top tier year in industry) and do you know if the tuition fees are less for a year in industry?
@@unwrittenfilms9958 Yes, I'd recommend it! And yes, the tuition fee is way lower. To increase your chances, work on some projects on your own to build a small coding portoflio :)
As an ex-programmer from Asia I happen to be in a conversion master programme of CS in UK now. I totally agree with you that you don't pay so much for the knowledge, because nowadays you can learn almost everything online for free. But if you need a CS degree to prove yourself in job market, or an opportunity to work in UK, that would be different.
Definitely, agreed. Good luck with the course! Quite an unfortunate year to do it admittedly, how's your experience? Is it fully online?
@@karolinasowinska Yeah fully online, half-year's Zoom university so far XD. But now I can make friends from various cultures, which I couldn't before.
Hello, I'm studying Electronics and Communication Engineering in India and planning to do MSc computer science. Am I eligible to directly or do I have to go with conversion computer science?
@@kesavanm3788 The UK is going to release a new visa policy, so you may have better choices now. Especially if you have several years of related study or work experience, it's possible to get a job directly without a local degree. Study in a conversion master's programme is a more cautious way if you don't lack time and money. (personal idea above)
@@sidniohuru1868 No I don't have any experience, but I have a programming skills like Java, Data structures and algorithms, HTML, CSS, JavaScript
Awesome as always, Karcia
This has been so useful in helping me understand the conversion masters better, thank you!
My pleasure!;)
Yes I have First degree in an Arts subject , completed an expensive very demanding MBA from a good University in Scotland but have now started another Masters in Computer Science which I'm finding the programming side very tough .
The thing is you could learn all this yourself through the web and reading various books but employers would be not as impressed as from Imperial College , UCL or even Birkbeck College or Oxford or Cambridge Universities !!!
Excellent message! I agree, education is very important. However, a lot of people out there still think that universities are the only place where you can an education from. Like you said, we can now learn in/on many places. Keep the videos coming.
Definitely. The knowledge is in abundance! Thanks!:)
As someone currently on a masters conversion in this department (at a different UK university) I feel a bit short changed by it so far. I think I went in to it naively thinking I would be taught like it was an apprenticeship but I'm actually essentially teaching myself 95% of it, which I could have done anyway WITHOUT paying thousands to go to lectures to be told what to go and study. Then there's all the strict academic rules regarding assignments which is back in my life after many years since originally leaving uni. High stress, high cost, it bloody better be worth it at the end is all I will conclude with.
Totally relatable. What you do get is a diploma/something to put on your CV. I think it's worth it/it does make it so much easier to get a job in the field. Good luck with the studies!
Hi.
Any updtaes for someone tryng to get into this course?
Thank you so much for your videos! It's really helpful!
You're very welcome!:)
Great Video! Thank you for sharing your experience!!
I'm glad you think so, thank you! :)
If you are an EU person reading this, aside from going to the too universities in the UK I would instead pick Denmark or other countries of the Nordic area where you will deal with language issues of course , but the big plus is that the entire course is for free and you don't get a loan you have to pay afterwards. Arguably if your target market is the UK you can say that the cost you pay for can get compensated on your upcoming salary which will be a lot easier to get i you do the course in the UK.
The thing about the course is that it not only has structure but what having structure means for the employer (and yourself). That makes it quite specific about what it is you can do and to what extent can be expected of you without of going in the trouble of hackathons or similar things while job hunting.
Well said about the value of a formal course!
Hello. I know this is an old comment, but I am looking for conversion courses in Denmark and can't find any. Do you know what I should search for exactly?
Thank you anyway!
Just what i was looking for, thanks a lot!
Its actually hard to believe you’re only at 10k subs
Aw. Thanks, nice to hear that you think so! :) Maybe one day!
I liked how honest this video was. I have a BS in EET and I was thinking of getting a master's in CS, but I had some doubts. Now, I am not sure what should I get next.
Thanks! There's no point in sugarcoating! ;) Interesting, if you think your BS can get you a good job, then perhaps there's no reason for Master's
This was very helpful. Thank you!
You're very welcome! :)
Thanks for your video! Im also a student studying Economics and mathematics in undergrad. I'm now waiting for a response from Imperial. Wish all the best!
Hi, I've heard that the conversion Master's at Imperial is very competitive (obviously they ask for a 1:1). Apart from good undergraduate grades, do you have any tips on how to make your application stand out? What did you write about in the personal statement since it's hard to write with little experience?
Thanks for the video! I was wondering what sort of undergrad background other students had? Is it primarily STEM subjects? I'd love to study this & have been saving for a while, but my undergrad was in Architecture (UCL) - not much quantitative thinking, sadly :( (The best I have is A-levels in further maths / physics!)
There was one person in my year who did architecture before :) In genereal people had various backgrounds (such as philosophy and law), but I'd say that overwhelming majority was coming from either economics or engineering. Good luck with the application process! :)
I did a law UG and completed the course in 2020 at Imperial. Think it worked out fine!
Great video! Can you tell us what an average weekly schedule looked like? 🙏🏼
Hey! I can't remember very well at this point, but ultimately the schedule didn't matter. Everyone was either in classes or in computer labs basically all the time!
Thank you for this video! As a law student, I've always felt a lot of pressure to become a lawyer - but I'm not sure whether I want to be a lawyer. I've always had particular interest in legal topics which intersected with ComSci like internet regulation, data protection, and copyright law. Being able to be qualified to do both Law and ComSci has always intrigued me and this video has really helped explain the ComSci conversion course really well!
Can I ask though what level of maths is required to do the course? I don't do a STEM degree and my maths is not very good X_X
Same here. I studied law and I am thinking about a Msc in CS
It depends on a particular MSc course. Check their requirements on theirs websites. I imgine there are courses that don't require you to have ay background in maths! :)
@@karolinasowinska What about your specific course you do did in Imperial?
@@Trolligarch I don't recall there being a specific math requirement, but perhaps I didn't pay attention, because I knew I had background in maths
I did a law UG and completed the course in 2020 at Imperial. Think it worked out fine!
Hi Karolina! I got accepted to Imperial for the same conversion course and I'm wondering if the cost is worth it for overseas students. I'm expected to pay 36k pounds if I choose to enrol this September which is quite an exorbitant amount, but if I can get a SDE job in London after graduating it would be fine. How likely is it for someone from outside of Europe to land a job in the UK with this course? Thank you so much!
Try University of Chester or Swansea. They'll cheaper
Hi Karolina, from your experience, was the course very maths focused? Or is it a basic enough level of understanding required?
Bloody hell, the same degree at Imperial is now £22,250! Thats over an £8k jump.
Do you reckon its still worth it at that cost?
Yup... inflation would do that. I think it's worth it still, but only if it's affordable
I would like to make a major career change from psychology to computer science.. however I acquire little knowledge on the topic. With a 2.1 psychology bsc what route would you recommend I take?
You can do a conversion Masters if you don't mind paying the tuition fees. Or you can go down the self-teaching route too!
Woah no dislikes🔥
if your out of town for example albany ny being a student in london. the loan is given to you as long as you dont got an income. if your under disability you get grants in the uk for free.
Hey, great video!
On a scale of 10, how hard is the course?
On an average how many hours you have to devote for independent study per day?
Is there an option to skip the dissertation?
Any prep work that you would recommend for the course?
have you any idea about the comp sci conversion course at Newcastle?
It was hands down 10/10 for me haha! On average... people only take breaks for food and sleep. I'm sorry to paint such a dramatic scenario, but that's really how it was! You can't skip your Master's thesis. Prep work... learning C++ beforehand would be so useful! I haven't heard about the Newcastle course.
I am motivated thanks
I'm in Finland and working as SWE at a once the largest phone manufacturer company's cloud software network management system organization. I was thinking about my choice for Master's as a non tech degree holder. My choices were limited to University of Applied Sciences since normal universities strictly require previous CS or Engineering Bachelor's. For me, got any opinions for 1) Cyber Security or 2) AI and Data Analytics engineering?
Also, is an MSc worth it at all?
Thanks for the video. Do you have any recommendations as to material/ languages/ math that you think you would have found useful before you started?
For that particular Master's degree - C++. For the other ones, it depends on their curriculum!
Hi Karolina! If you are unsure of whether you'd like to do data science, data engineering, or machine learning engineering and are interested in research, what do you recommend for a good master's degree? Are computer science, data science, applied math, and statistics pretty equal? I have a background in engineering. Thank you!!
For research, I recommend quantitative degrees such as statistics, maths, data science. :)
I'm an Economics graduate like yourself with an offer for computer science (cyber security) MSc from university of Kent. I'm passionate about this course but I'm nervous I might struggle with no programming experience. Any advice?
Don't be nervous at all. If there's a will, there's a way!
excuse me, but did you study cybersecurity without knowing to programming? I didn't think that it could be possible....
Hello Karolina,
Is it recommend to code all the machine learning algorithms from scratch so that I can learn math behind it or just understand and start to code?
Yes, I think so. This is also how they encouraged us to do it at university. :)
Coming from an Economic bachelor what you had to do in order to be accepted? I see the requirements are either an engineering or a CS degree?
This was a conversion degree, so they were accepting people from any background!
I’ve been checking their website but can not find such a degree.Can you tell me the name of the course exactly?
@@liviaudrea4020 www.imperial.ac.uk/study/pg/computing/computing/
Thank you so much.
I'm studying Electronics and Communication Engineering now. Am I eligible to do MSc Computer science directly or do I have to go with conversion computer science? In my Current UG I had 4 modules regarding computer science till now and I'm also having programming skills like Java, Data structures and algorithms, HTML, CSS, JavaScript.
In some universities they will accept you for Advance computer science courses like Loughborough University but some universities prefer you for conversion courses so the point is you need to choose wisely while doing application.
Had a quick question about the loan and stuff, was this the postgraduate loan? And if so, I'm a bit worried that it doesn't even cover all of the tuition, let alone any living costs
Yes it was a postgraduate loan. You're right, it doesn't cover everything:( Especially now that the tuition fees for this course went up further.
@@karolinasowinska Yeah it is a pain.. Were there any other loans you got? Or grants or scholarships? Thanks for the video btw, was very useful to get a better feel for what it would be like!
@@joshcheng2527 You need to write speculative letter to companies to give you funding if they interested to hire you once you completed the course.
Hey! I have a medical background and want to do a conversion MSc in CS with Data Science for transitioning into research. However, since I am based in EU, I have to do it online and the options are therefore scarce (only low ranked unis such as Sunderland, Keele, Wolverhampton etc offer online options). Do you think it's worth it? Given that conversion MSc are generally frowned upon by employers and to that you'd add the modestly placed universities. Worth it or not? Regards
Hey, if you're still looking you could consider York as they have some online courses too
Do you know if Edinburgh’s has it?
Not sure, you'd need to check!
The beautiful 😻 girl from Internet is back. ❤️ how are you? Yesterday I interviewed few people in my company. I also think people who know C++ are at an advantage as they can understand Java and C much easier. Also I subscribe that college can be temporary but learning is forever.
Exactly! I hope the candidates were good and that the interviews went well!
@@karolinasowinska I interviewed 7 and finally took 2. The last candidate was star potential. He even got a patent filing in his name. The other candidate came from an economically weaker background and appeared hard working. He had 1 year of gap after class 12 before his graduation and told me that he aspired to become a defence personnel primarily to support his family as his father is a farmer. So as to supplement his fathers income. But then since he has breathing problem due to which he failed the fitness test, he did engineering in mechanical engineering. I urged other interviewer to consider him and thankfully the other interviewer understood. It was nice experience for me...first time I am in this situation from the other side of the table.
What are your thoughts about apprenticeship CS programs ?
I am graduated in business studied a Graduate IT Diploma in NZ. To be a Data Engineer, do you think it would be better if I do a Master in Computer Science or in Data Science?
Computer Science :)
@@karolinasowinska I'm a big fan of yours. Thank you
what was your undergrad degree in? Did you need to have a strong math background to be accepted into the course
It was in Financial Economics. Maths can be useful, but definitely not a pre-requisite
@@karolinasowinska do you also think that studying programming before enrolling in the course can make the course load easier? Thank you for your answer by the way!
Hey, could you please find out How much would it cost for master's degree in computer science for international students
What are your thoughts about apprenticeship programs ?
Hii..
You told that the course employability is very good. So are you and your batch mates employed and happy now?? I am from India and did study economics(same as you) in my undergraduates and currently looking to get into some conversion programme.
Great Video!
The policy for foreign students is the same everywhere. Especially medical school. Btw, did you check out what the riot was about?
Yeah, unfortunately that's true! Ah, it turned out it was just a bunch of loud people outside. It's actually pretty common where I live!
I have a Business Degree in Bachelors. I have no coding and computer language experience. So can i do MSC in Computer Science?
Would you like to apply for PhD?
What university did you do for your undergrad and im guessing it was a first class?
Uni of Kent. And yes, I got a condition to get a first class in my final year and first class overall!
@@karolinasowinska omg I go Kent and I’m considering this too! But I’m currently working at a 2:1, do you reckon they’ll ask me to gain a 1:1?
@@queenj6858 high five!! :) But I think they will (at Imperial at least)
@@karolinasowinska wow okay! Thank you!!
Hi I'm from Kerala, India. I've completed Electronics and Communication Engineering (B Tech) in Kerala. But my decision was wrong I'm in to CS. I don't want to work in Electronics field.
What If I do Msc in CS (Information and Communication Technology to be specific) conversion course in the UK, will it be worth it? Is this is good idea?.
And I want to settle in the UK too, is there a possibility to get a skilled worker visa after this?
Cool
Yeah that is the truth " Knowledge is free but prestige is not".
Sad truth indeed
Python is also important
oO i had memory management in my first or second semester of studiying game engineering - i agree its really usefull but i wouldnt go do a master for it ^^
Oh no, I don't think anyone would go and do a Masters just to learn memory management. But who knows... haha.
@@karolinasowinska th-cam.com/video/DM8mDeFeWZ4/w-d-xo.html
I finished with a 2:1 can I still apply for the course
I've been looking around for myself and many reputable universities accept a 2:1 (or even a 2:2) to apply
Mam, how tall are you?
omgawwww. theres a government grant and loan office in london. the office of student loans every college in london has it now.
Here is their nasty policy.
2021 entry
£34,750 per year
:(
IMO, getting a formal uni education these days is just to show employers that you can commit and/or work hard at something. I totally agree that you can get most of the information online. When I was living in London I ended up doing heaps of MOOCs for programming in my spare time for about 4 years while I was working at a pub. At the end of 2020 I decided to go back to my home country Australia and study a degree in applied computer science. I'm absolutely shredding my degree, I would go as far to say that some of the MOOCs i've done were much more difficult than my undergraduate computer science courses. I would also say i think that the course delivery method of unis are so out-dated. 2-3 hour lectures to deliver content, big oof. Universities cannot compete with online learning it seems, because I learnt better and found it more enjoyable with MOOCs even though I'm doing well at uni. I still think there is value in a university degree, but I feel that may change soon if they don't 'modernise' their approach.
what are MOOCs? also do you know of anything a non-tech student who wanted to apply for a comp conversion masters could do to brace themselves for the content? thanks!
All these companies now want a degree in CS. Like it or not you need a degree or masters in it
Not all! Often equivalent experience is enough
Uni is not a game changer anymore , now a days if you are good at something there are lot of ways to let people know... and internet gives acces to knowledg to almos every one. But you have to put the work on your own,
Tho one thing that universities are good at, is networking and pushing you to get things done.
So, moral of the stoy... if you go to uni just to get a degree,probably you did something wrong, uni is all about makingconnections
By the way...
Dont you wanna be my friend? (I am linving in an adult world as well)
Agreed! I probably didn't do enough networking myself. Definitely, let's be TH-cam friends! :)
You learned C and c++ in masters degree we in india are taught that in class 12th
And then don't get job which is as high paying job as uk gives 😂😂
I think for you guys the best thing about a uni course is getting the visa to work in your intended country! too bad India doesn't have enough good opportunities
ok?
As in... People outside? Yeah, all turned out ok!
Hopefully, the fight was not something serious, ahaha!
Haha fortunately just a bunch of loud people!
Pursuing Master degree in DataScience 🥳 better than ComputerScience 🤔
Awesome! I hope you're enjoying it! :)
Both are great and depend what you’re looking for. Data Science are relatively new. The government are putting investments in some Data Science courses.
c++ has been rendered useless. if you learn c+ and python. you can use java e.ct c++ is no good any more. im a computer tech/programmer for 25 years
Is student loan hard to pay off
It is... Many people don't pay it off in their lifetime. But it is a relatively safe loan, and if you don't earn above a certain threshold, you won't have to repay it.
@@karolinasowinska I am asking because I have missed out on the opportunity of a computer science degree apprenticeship which would pay for tuition fees, I have an offer for a standard computer science degree for which I would have to a student loan out for. I’m debating whether it would be best wait and apply for the degree apprenticeship next year or just going with the standard degree
@@unwrittenfilms9958 it's hard to say what's better, but I'd be probably leaning towards getting a degree, just because many employers still want to see it. Paying off the loan is basically like paying a tax on your earnings - it's taken automatically, and you don't have to worry about it if you don't have a job. I think it's an ok deal!
@@karolinasowinska Yh I agree I think i would rather pay it than wait a year for a very competitive degree apprenticeship 😅. Also I wanted to ask, would you recommend a year in industry (and what can I do to increase my chances to get a top tier year in industry) and do you know if the tuition fees are less for a year in industry?
@@unwrittenfilms9958 Yes, I'd recommend it! And yes, the tuition fee is way lower. To increase your chances, work on some projects on your own to build a small coding portoflio :)
If you are not busy tomorrow, we can get married?
Would you like to apply for PhD?