I just installed an x-pipe and happy about it. I wanna be happier and install the cutouts in the future. I'm thinking about using the S button on the transmission to open the valves. I think the cutouts are not being maximized in C mode. Looking to get this done in about 2 weeks.
This sounds awesome!!! I want to add the x pipe to my 13 c300 but don't want to loud at the same time so this would prolly be the best solution? Also how much was ur labor to add the x pipe and straight pipe alone? And then the labor for adding the switch n cutout ect? I know it differs from place to place but trying to get a rough figure of what I'm looking at for labor and total cost after I buy all the part? Thanks man sounds awesome!!
Devin Rock Thanks, I love it too! Tthe x-pipe will only make it louder under acceleration, so your best bet to make it a bit louder but quiet most of the time. Keep the resonator in case you ever want to go back to stock and sell the car. X-pipe install was $50. I did the switch myself, cutouts were $120 installed
Do you mind me asking which Ebay vendor you bought the cutouts from? I've found a seller with good rating that sells a kit that has the y pipe, the motor, switch and pipe tip for $100.
eigdf $300 tune. HP/tq - dunno exact numbers. these engines are just slow as hell and I'd be surprised if I got 20 hp more. the biggest difference is the transmission reacts faster. the stock tune drove me nuts with the delay in downshifting
nice man it sounds like a beast!, i found the electronic cut outs , but its only one for about 70 dollars , would i also ave to purchase the down side pipes? or you think a muffler shop would have them? im in los angeles , any info helps! much appreciated
How many inches is the x-pipe and the electronic exhaust cutouts...is it 2.5 or 3 inches...in this case I have a 2012 c300 n im hoping they the same size as urs for I can do it to mines
That is a great video! Love it ! Just want to ask where did you go to do these installations? What kind of shop? If I just change the exhaust tip and and add the electronic exhaust cutout, will that makes the sound louder when I open the cutout?
Hey, sounds great, do you happen to know if that x pipe size will fit in a 2013 c300 sport? I know they changed my year motor to a factory de-tuned c-350 motor... Wasn't sure that same size x pipe will fit or if you happen to know offhand? Also if I was to do the x pipe and muffler delete what other pieces would I need in order to do that? I am planning on getting either the renntech or kleeman ecu flash and from talking to them because of being a de-tuned c350 motor for the 1100$ it will bring the 13 model c300 up to 315hp
I had a thought, why wouldn't you just eliminate the resonator and instead of using the X pipe run 2 straight pipes in place so you have true duals, what are your thoughts on that?
***** the 'nicer' tone is my opinion only, some people prefer the 'pulse' of a true dual, other love the 'thunder' of an H, I just like the 'roar' of an X pipe more.
***** You can hear the 'pulse' I was talking about here: th-cam.com/video/BblQFQtNWJs/w-d-xo.html while you can hear the 'roar' of mine with x-pipe here: th-cam.com/video/6TCdvN5-eso/w-d-xo.htmlm48s I know it's hard to tell in both vids, but trust me it's something you can notice.
Nice ride man, love the sound. Have you found any performance items other than exhaust mods? I have an '09 C300 in white and would like to do the exhaust plus some other mods, but it's pretty hard to find stuff for these cars, outside of total custom one offs.... or maybe I'm just not looking in the right spots...lol.
Thxs, Very few aftermarket performance mods exist for these cars because the consumers who buy them just don't care (and the C63 is available for those who do). The only performance mods I've made are K&N air filters, and an ECU tune. The car is dead slow and the mods didn't make much of a difference in power but the tune did remove a lot of the throttle lag, so I definitely recommend it. They also have Kleemann headers (on Ebay you can find the cheap Chinese knockoffs by OBX for under $400) but I don't recommend spending too much on this model as most people agree it can't even reach C350 levels at best.
Where did you find your ECU tune? The ones I found are gas saver tunes and honestly, they didn't seem too legit. I'm real interested in getting rid of that throttle lag.
The ECU tune added about 5 -10hp (I can tell since now I can chirp tires whereas before I couldn't), and about 65% of the lag is gone. Car responds more quickly, downshifts faster, and keeps the gear longer when playing around. I got mine from oetuning.com/ I live in SoCal and they are located in HB, close to where I work. Their tune is legit and I can vouch for it. The next best option is going with Kleemann as it's a better tune from what I hear, but you go for $400 to $1700 for a tune, not worth it for a few more HP, at least for me.
Marius Dornean hey man i got a question if i buy the magnaflow x pipe do they come with the long metal pipe that connect to the xpipe or they shop gonna provide it? and how much is cost u to install that
A bit of drone but with the cutouts I can turn them off and drone goes away. A bit of gurgling when cold upon start, but nothing proper (I had a viper and had a few backfires when downshifting that were so loud I thought I blew the tranny!)
Letran not many people want to mess with stock Mercedes. Everything is a pretty penny unless you're well off. And if you are, they go for the proper models, not Cs or MLS.
Hey, bro please respond! i was thinking of doing cutouts on my c250, however i was wondering if you smell gas when you open the cutouts and your windows are open, as opposed to cutouts closed, especially at red lights. please let me know as this is the only thing holding me back from making the move!
I was wondering if I should put my cutouts before the cats? Or after the cats and before the resonator? Or should I take out my cats and put the cutouts before the resonator? How much louder would it be if the cutouts are before the cats? or after the cats if I remove them?
Before the forward cats would be problematic due to limited space and potential heat issue (exhaust coming right up under the tranny). I think it would definitely make it louder, but moving the oxygen sensor and cats may not be worth the extra work.
+Marius Dornean Thanks I think I will put my cutouts after the o2 sensors witch are after the cats. It should not throw codes if the cut outs are after the cats. I hope it sounds good! Thanks for the advice!
did doing this cause your dashboard lights to come on, i noticed in the video you had an airbag / temperature and low beam lights on, or was that caused by something else. I am hesitant to let some mom and pop shop weld on my car
Yeah, you'll have a hell of a time figuring out how to get the pipes to reach the side skirts given lack of clearance. The closer you are to the engine, the hotter the exhaust. You would not want just downpipes right under the cabin if you are close to the cats - you'd probably start a fire! I explored the option with my techs as well; given the clearance it just wasn't practical. Let me know if you go that route and figure it out.
what you mean? i meant im removing my resonator like you but ive seen some xpipes after cats rather than back by mufflers like you. im not doing cutouts just resonator delete with xpipes and most told me to put it after cats for performance but towards mufflers for loudness
I thought you meant the cutouts; either way the cats are in the front of the car. This car is slow as shit, even with a tune and the x-pipe, I doubt you'll feel a difference. All of this is really for better sound, if you want performance get a car made for power, not a dog like the C class (unless you're talking the C63).
Marius Dornean You must buy them in bulk, or you're getting the cheap ones that break after a month - because just about every cutout I find is no less than $430 for a set of 2, and that's not including the turndown pipe that angles it down off the cutout.
Crank Turner I got them off eBay right around Christmas for half what they go for. But yes, they are cheaper Chinese make, not the proper USA ones (makes no difference to me)
Marius Dornean Gotcha, awesome. So the ones you got work well? Have they been installed very long? Would be awesome to get the details on those - reliability, auction title, seller name on ebay, etc. Thanks!
I like the stock sound more ;) Lesson: don't fuck with German factory performance exhausts, be it R32, Carrera GT, etc. They got it right from the factory.
without the music,,,this video is good
Excellent video, every exhaust video should be like yours. Thank you.
Thank you sir!
I just installed an x-pipe and happy about it. I wanna be happier and install the cutouts in the future. I'm thinking about using the S button on the transmission to open the valves. I think the cutouts are not being maximized in C mode. Looking to get this done in about 2 weeks.
How did it turn out?
Marius, do you remember where you got your cut outs from for your Benz ? What type and how much was it ?
I just bought badlanz 2.25 inch cutout kit. Where should I run the wires through ? Thanks
hi friend so valve pipes you added were of a 2.25" ? not 3"?
Hi Marius Dornean ,I want to do the electric cut out but how do you solve the electric wiring problem? How do you go the wire?
This sounds awesome!!! I want to add the x pipe to my 13 c300 but don't want to loud at the same time so this would prolly be the best solution? Also how much was ur labor to add the x pipe and straight pipe alone? And then the labor for adding the switch n cutout ect? I know it differs from place to place but trying to get a rough figure of what I'm looking at for labor and total cost after I buy all the part? Thanks man sounds awesome!!
Devin Rock Thanks, I love it too!
Tthe x-pipe will only make it louder under acceleration, so your best bet to make it a bit louder but quiet most of the time. Keep the resonator in case you ever want to go back to stock and sell the car.
X-pipe install was $50. I did the switch myself, cutouts were $120 installed
Did you buy the y pipes and the cut outs. If so where?
Do you mind me asking which Ebay vendor you bought the cutouts from? I've found a seller with good rating that sells a kit that has the y pipe, the motor, switch and pipe tip for $100.
I bet the x pipe frees up horsepower that factory resonator is huge
Overall the car is a snail. It did help a bit, but it wont make a 220hp car a 600hp car :p
Marius Dornean ECU tune and power commander will make it a lot faster
eigdf I already had the tune performed on it.
Marius Dornean how much horsepower and torque did you gain? and how much was it if you don't mind me asking
eigdf $300 tune. HP/tq - dunno exact numbers. these engines are just slow as hell and I'd be surprised if I got 20 hp more. the biggest difference is the transmission reacts faster. the stock tune drove me nuts with the delay in downshifting
So before the cut outs section of the video you had the side by side video of stock and x pipe clips do you have the stock mufflers?
nice man it sounds like a beast!, i found the electronic cut outs , but its only one for about 70 dollars , would i also ave to purchase the down side pipes? or you think a muffler shop would have them? im in los angeles , any info helps! much appreciated
Surely you could have wired the cutouts to one switch right?
Yes, absolutely.
what size pipe do we need for the w204? 2.5" ?
2.25" if I recall correctly
How many inches is the x-pipe and the electronic exhaust cutouts...is it 2.5 or 3 inches...in this case I have a 2012 c300 n im hoping they the same size as urs for I can do it to mines
2.25", link to exact part: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XQO0VG/
With the work that you changed on that does your check engine light stay
No
@@LoudFiat ok thank you
Lol I was legit working on one of these with cooked transfer case bearings. It's slow for sure. But have fun nah dude. Do you.
That is a great video! Love it ! Just want to ask where did you go to do these installations? What kind of shop? If I just change the exhaust tip and and add the electronic exhaust cutout, will that makes the sound louder when I open the cutout?
Any muffler shop. You don't need to change the exhaust tip, just the cutouts, for more sound.
Marius Dornean thx for the information
Hey, sounds great, do you happen to know if that x pipe size will fit in a 2013 c300 sport? I know they changed my year motor to a factory de-tuned c-350 motor... Wasn't sure that same size x pipe will fit or if you happen to know offhand? Also if I was to do the x pipe and muffler delete what other pieces would I need in order to do that? I am planning on getting either the renntech or kleeman ecu flash and from talking to them because of being a de-tuned c350 motor for the 1100$ it will bring the 13 model c300 up to 315hp
I had a thought, why wouldn't you just eliminate the resonator and instead of using the X pipe run 2 straight pipes in place so you have true duals, what are your thoughts on that?
The x-pipe reverberates the two engine banks causing a nicer tone, straight pipes, h-pipes, and x-pipes all have distinct tones.
***** X pipes provide more higher RPM HP at the cost of lower torque while h pipe does the inverse, both relative to straight pipes.
***** the 'nicer' tone is my opinion only, some people prefer the 'pulse' of a true dual, other love the 'thunder' of an H, I just like the 'roar' of an X pipe more.
***** You can hear the 'pulse' I was talking about here: th-cam.com/video/BblQFQtNWJs/w-d-xo.html while you can hear the 'roar' of mine with x-pipe here: th-cam.com/video/6TCdvN5-eso/w-d-xo.htmlm48s
I know it's hard to tell in both vids, but trust me it's something you can notice.
Nice ride man, love the sound. Have you found any performance items other than exhaust mods? I have an '09 C300 in white and would like to do the exhaust plus some other mods, but it's pretty hard to find stuff for these cars, outside of total custom one offs.... or maybe I'm just not looking in the right spots...lol.
Thxs, Very few aftermarket performance mods exist for these cars because the consumers who buy them just don't care (and the C63 is available for those who do). The only performance mods I've made are K&N air filters, and an ECU tune. The car is dead slow and the mods didn't make much of a difference in power but the tune did remove a lot of the throttle lag, so I definitely recommend it. They also have Kleemann headers (on Ebay you can find the cheap Chinese knockoffs by OBX for under $400) but I don't recommend spending too much on this model as most people agree it can't even reach C350 levels at best.
Where did you find your ECU tune? The ones I found are gas saver tunes and honestly, they didn't seem too legit. I'm real interested in getting rid of that throttle lag.
The ECU tune added about 5 -10hp (I can tell since now I can chirp tires whereas before I couldn't), and about 65% of the lag is gone. Car responds more quickly, downshifts faster, and keeps the gear longer when playing around. I got mine from oetuning.com/ I live in SoCal and they are located in HB, close to where I work. Their tune is legit and I can vouch for it. The next best option is going with Kleemann as it's a better tune from what I hear, but you go for $400 to $1700 for a tune, not worth it for a few more HP, at least for me.
That makes perfect sense... no point in spending that kind of money for the little gains. Thanks for the info sir, I appreciate it.
Marius Dornean hey man i got a question if i buy the magnaflow x pipe do they come with the long metal pipe that connect to the xpipe or they shop gonna provide it? and how much is cost u to install that
How's the drone cruising at highway speeds with just the xpipe?
No drone at all with just the xpipe,
It really does make the car sound fantastic, how does the dealership feel about it in terms of warranty?
I've read that since it's cat back, unless they can prove the modification caused the issue, you should be ok
Any drone sound from the x pipe, or any back fire sounds? great video, I like watching it more than once
A bit of drone but with the cutouts I can turn them off and drone goes away. A bit of gurgling when cold upon start, but nothing proper (I had a viper and had a few backfires when downshifting that were so loud I thought I blew the tranny!)
+Marius Dornean cool, thanks
was that just X pipe with stock mufflers, or after market mufflers?
Stock mufflers.
+Marius Dornean ok thanks
have you in this video the catalyst still inside?
Yes.
thinking about doing this for my 2013 ml350 xpipe and can't find any video on youtube
Letran not many people want to mess with stock Mercedes. Everything is a pretty penny unless you're well off. And if you are, they go for the proper models, not Cs or MLS.
@chubbi negative on the G35 sounds, it's quite different. Also drone is none with cutouts off, pleasant with them open.
Hey, bro please respond! i was thinking of doing cutouts on my c250, however i was wondering if you smell gas when you open the cutouts and your windows are open, as opposed to cutouts closed, especially at red lights. please let me know as this is the only thing holding me back from making the move!
Chris Fahmy no smell whatsoever.
is your cutout right after the Cats? as in approximately right under the gear shifter?
Chris Fahmy no, right before the diff, after where the resonator used to be and the X pipe was installed.
oh okay so maybe thats why you don't smell it. its a little farther back then i would've done it. i appreciate the response!
The shop said putting them up front was not recommended due to clearance and heat.
I was wondering if I should put my cutouts before the cats? Or after the cats and before the resonator? Or should I take out my cats and put the cutouts before the resonator? How much louder would it be if the cutouts are before the cats? or after the cats if I remove them?
Before the forward cats would be problematic due to limited space and potential heat issue (exhaust coming right up under the tranny). I think it would definitely make it louder, but moving the oxygen sensor and cats may not be worth the extra work.
+Marius Dornean Thanks I think I will put my cutouts after the o2 sensors witch are after the cats. It should not throw codes if the cut outs are after the cats. I hope it sounds good! Thanks for the advice!
did doing this cause your dashboard lights to come on, i noticed in the video you had an airbag / temperature and low beam lights on, or was that caused by something else. I am hesitant to let some mom and pop shop weld on my car
+ERIC ROUBLICK The lights are unrelated. You can take it to a reputable shop who deals with Mercedes to be safe.
hey man you think there is difference if put xpipe closer to cats instead?
Yeah, you'll have a hell of a time figuring out how to get the pipes to reach the side skirts given lack of clearance. The closer you are to the engine, the hotter the exhaust. You would not want just downpipes right under the cabin if you are close to the cats - you'd probably start a fire!
I explored the option with my techs as well; given the clearance it just wasn't practical. Let me know if you go that route and figure it out.
what you mean? i meant im removing my resonator like you but ive seen some xpipes after cats rather than back by mufflers like you. im not doing cutouts just resonator delete with xpipes and most told me to put it after cats for performance but towards mufflers for loudness
I thought you meant the cutouts; either way the cats are in the front of the car. This car is slow as shit, even with a tune and the x-pipe, I doubt you'll feel a difference. All of this is really for better sound, if you want performance get a car made for power, not a dog like the C class (unless you're talking the C63).
so you think there is a sound difference if i put xpipe where you put yours compared to putting it behind cats? or no difference
I doubt there will be much of a difference. If you manage to get cutouts up there, it would scream.
what brand cut outs? id like to put some on my c300
Timmy Zirkle just buy good ones. I had to take these off after I replaced them three times.
@@LoudFiat what went wrong you think? Just electronics? Or too hot??
@@explorinlearnindoing5462 too hot + cheap Chinese versions.
@@LoudFiat okay thanks!
Awesome
Cost for all of it ?
Cutouts $75 each, x-pipe $99, installation varies based on your shop.
Thanks Marius !
Marius Dornean You must buy them in bulk, or you're getting the cheap ones that break after a month - because just about every cutout I find is no less than $430 for a set of 2, and that's not including the turndown pipe that angles it down off the cutout.
Crank Turner I got them off eBay right around Christmas for half what they go for. But yes, they are cheaper Chinese make, not the proper USA ones (makes no difference to me)
Marius Dornean
Gotcha, awesome. So the ones you got work well? Have they been installed very long? Would be awesome to get the details on those - reliability, auction title, seller name on ebay, etc. Thanks!
I like the stock sound more ;) Lesson: don't fuck with German factory performance exhausts, be it R32, Carrera GT, etc. They got it right from the factory.
The C300 is as quiet as you can get stock.
Yeah, mufflers are still on car, only the resonator was removed.
How much does it cost?
make more videos longer ones put ur car on ACC and open the cutouts then turn car on
Where do I get the ecu tune
Your local Benz tuner.
The cuts outs r pointless unless u can completely close the longer pipes. Jus sayin
It's for loud noise only.
I hear the same on open and closed...
+TheNoobComment Bad mic on my phone, DB level is significantly higher on open.
Seems like a lot of work. Just put on a performance muffler and cut out the other BS
Route of least resistance huh
haha okay thx man
i have a video comming out with a cutout installed on my clk500 click the alert button on my page to see when it drops...
Also where did you get the electronic switch for it?