SAVING EDGEWORTH | Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Part 5
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Just imagine how absolutely terrifying facing Phoenix must be.
Spoiler warning for the video's case.
Case unsolved for 15 years. Not even the victim's ghost knew you shot him. Someone else thinks they've done it and even testified that they are guilty. You're a prosecutor with 40 years of experience, without a SINGLE loss. You think "my revenge is complete", the possibility of being on trial, let alone convicted guilty, is not even in your dreams.
Then you face this man. To others, a defence attorney on his FOURTH ever trial, but to you, the omniscient devil. He stares you down and starts listing exactly what happened that day 15 years ago with frightening accuracy, AFTER you took basically all the police evidence around the case.
"What the fuck?" you think, on edge(worth) but still confident. He's managed to guess that there was another bullet, but even that is conjecture, there's nothing to prove what he claims. Only one shot can be proven, and that shooter is known. Impressive for a bug, but It ends there. The judge asks him the obvious question, who could have been the murderer then? The murderer whom none had witnessed, who was not in the elevator, and again who NOT EVEN THE GHOST OF THE VICTIM KNEW OF. Then you look at him, wavering, as if reading the sins off your soul, feigning conjecture but hiding a conviction that approaches divine proclamation.
"Von Karma" he says.
Your shoulder throbs. "How the ever loving fuck". You're thoroughly shook now. "You can't prove that it was me, you can't even explain where a second bullet would be" you cry out. Yes, there are no witnesses to find the bullet because you left it in you, undetectable. Your shoulder throbs again. As if sensing it, Phoenix then suggests. "What if the bullet never left the murderer's body".
No. There is actually no conceivable way this man guessed that. Why would anyone possibly think that. You look at him, and see the devil. "How can you prove there's a bullet in me? That is literally impossible with one day left, you'd need an x-ray or something for that"
Fucker then pulls out a whole metal detector out of his ass. "We can use this". HOW DOES ANY PROSECUTOR COUNTER THAT. Babbling now, you say, "that was a different time i got shot", stupid yes but enough to save you. This dude MATERIALISES evidence that you're 100% sure you remember taking and says "I call bullshit your honor".
In conclusion, Phoenix could probably figure out the meaning of life with only the vacuum of space as evidence if his boyfriend's trial needed it.
This is an amazingly good point and absolutely hilarious
This was a fantastic read
You actually face off against Phoenix in "Spirit of Justice". And yes, it's about as infuriating as you described.
Too bad no one ever gives him the recognition he deserves for that lol
"Fucker then pulls out a whole metal detector out of his ass." You're fuckin' killing me over here
I'm also now imagining Phoenix materializing evidence like it's Destiny 2 weapon swapping
Case 4 originally was the last case of the game. And let me just say, it was one of the most satisfying conclusions I have ever seen to a video game. The moment where Phoenix switched from the defense to the offence and started to bust Von Karma's wrinkly ass in front of everyone is just so damn good.
It’s such a good finale, so it’s crazy that for the next 2 games they just keeps getting better
@@jessequeen4550 Yeah, they always go all out with the final cases and its so god damn satisfying.
@@billcipher147 I remember being so engrossed in the final case of Trials and Tribulations that once I started I couldn't stop, and stayed up all night to finish it.
it still is the last case, it's just an add on case was added later down teh line.
"Your Honor, the defence switches to offence"
Prosecutor:
Manfred Von Karma is the best court speedrunner in Japanifornia
He was the first one to develop the SHUTTHEFUCKUP strat to skip cross examinations
[TAS] Guilty Verdict Any% in 2.59.07 by MVKarma
@@mygills3050 the tool being the _updated autopsy report_
Lol, Japanifornia. Well, atleast it's got a cousin, San Franstokyo
@@Urd-Vidan San Franstokyo is a city in Japanfornia
55:20, just so you know, the class trial is based on something that really happened to series creator/writer Sho Takoumi. Like Phoenix, he was a little kid and he was falsely accused of stealing money, by a bunch of adults no less. It went like the game, except, in Takoumi's case, nobody stood up for him. He later said, he wrote the class trial incident as a therapy of sorts.
I also like to think that he made Larry the idiot who stole the money as some kind of revenge
Shen’s laughing fit at the metal detector scene is glorious. It’s a lovely reminder that no matter how wacky you think this game might be, the game can and will match that insanity.
5:35 Shenpai starts talking
7:18 Shen opens the menu, game starts proper.
Edit: Shen just repeatedly saying that Phoenix has no hetrosexual explanation for his actions to meeting Edgeworth is EVERYTHING to me. They ARE in fact, absolutely gay your honor.
It's an old meme in the Ace Attorney fandom to compare Phoenix Wright to Legally Blonde. Right down to the two protagonists. XD
@@Birthday888 Not sure if it can even be called a meme anymore XD It has... evidences!
its bs, if you think that everything they do is immediately gay then something is WRONG with you.
@@redfox-ss8pq
*OBJECTION* They are in fact The big homosexual gay. That is all case closed.🗿
1:00:44 heres the time stamp for the last bit.
Shen's reaction to tiny Edgeworth is priceless, look at his lil bow tie
I have a mental image of Phoenix Wright being a regular guy with regular intelligence, but who is puppeted by an omniscient meta-entity who uses the evidence to solve the cases Wright tangles himself into. The entity still has to obey the laws of narration and in-universe logic, however twisted it might be, but that does not stop it from solving fifteen years old cases in one day.
Or Wright believes that their client is innocent so hard that it just becomes true
Phoenix part ork from 40k confirmed
fun fact: the director of the game shu takumi suggested that every time von karma and edgeworth won a trial they would go to a karaoke bar and sing "my way" by frank sinatra
No it's when they lost the trial and they sang it in the middle of court.
"Polly! Polly! What's your name?"
"Polly!"
"Well Shen, is this important to the case?"
"Nah I don't see how"
*30 minutes later*
Shen's MInd: "wait"
You'd think they would have cameras where they keep evidence and see Von Karma assaulting a defense attorney and a minor with a 600k volt stun gun. Or at least that the police in the precinct would hear the screams from them being shocked.
I know! It’s so stupid but it had to be, for the plot.
they do irl.
they have as much coverage on the room as possible, if aisles exist theres a camera pointing down it.
that and trying to get anything out requires about as much security as a library, with a bigger penalty known as destruction of evidence if you cant return anything.
They do.
Anything in police custody that's considered evidence for cases, documents, weapons, DNA/fingerprints and such is kept on heavy lockdown. A prosecutor or the likes would have to jump through hoops and run the triathlon before they'd be ever allowed inside without guards, let alone be able to so much as touch any kind of evidence and not have the police breathing down their necks the entire time.
Unfortunately, in Japanifornia, it's perfectly legal to assault a defense attorney as long as there are witnesses. And double unfortunately, camera recordings count.
Given what we find out later about the Police Department in question, I'm not surprised they didn't go after von Karma about it.
absolutely comical
"noooo, you can't prove the bullet's still in my body!"
"hehe, metal detector go brrrrrrrrrr"
More like "metal detector go beeeeeeeeeep"
But yeah lol
I still to this day don't understand how the heck the results of the original DL-6 trial resulted in Misty Fey being disgraced. As far as they were aware they DID catch the guy responsible, and while he was declared innocent, it was only due to a plea of insanity. They basically admitted that he was guilty, and that the only reason he wasn't to be sent to jail was because his brain was jacked from oxygen deprivation. That loss in court isn't on Misty or the police, only on the prosecution being unable to properly contest the defense's plea of insanity.
My interpretation is that it was less because of the results of the case, and more because of Grossberg. He sold the info about the police turning to a medium to White, who then sold it to the press. The fact that the police not only used a medium but then lost the case made them a laughing stock to the public, and Misty ended up getting thrown under the bus and declared a fraud because the public didn't really care what the case was about.
Y'know, I've never really thought about it, but that makes so much sense. Misty Fey should not have been disgraced.
I have trouble with this as well. The best explaination I can figure is that the disgrace the Fey Clan suffered was due to miscomminication and disbelief in spirits. The common knowledge of the trial was that the defendant was innocent, and it's possible not many knew it was due to an insantiy plea. When Redd White leaked the information about the PD's use of a mystic, the public got the wrong idea, the believers thinking Misty failed the challeling, and the skeptics causing an uproar over the police and prosocution acting like magic is viable evidence in court.
It's a minimal detail that yields little joy, but if you present you badge to people during the investigation portion they sometime give a cute little skit.
Like, I think if you show it to Gumshoe, they both start showing off their badges to each other.
The second part sounds gay af. I love it
That's adorable
PW: "New badge. Just picked it up from the DA's office. Whaddaya think?"
DG: "Very cool pal, but that's nothing. Look at this. Gold-plated brass."
PW: "Impressive... Very nice... Let's see Edgeworth's badge."
(Edgeworth whips out his custom-made Steel Samurai badge-carrying case)
"...My God..."
"If I had a dollar for every time I had to defend a prosecuting attorney over a murder that they themselves confessed to committing, I'd have two dollars. Which doesn't sound like much, but it's weird that it happened twice."
and two cases in a row no less!
funny enough is that phoenix his class trial is kinda based on something real that happened to shu takumi just that shu takumi did not get defended and had to apologize to the student ^^
Damn that's really interesting
Shen: *presents metal detector as a joke*
Game: That's right, we'll use this to find the bullet!
Shen: 🤣🤣🤣🤣 *Fucking dying*
The "EEEeeedgewOOOORTH....." when he objected LMFAO....the anger...
The laughter over the metal detector coming back for the trial just kills me.
Shen is the first person I've seen play through Phoenix Wright that DOESN'T read the evidence. It's like watching a game of Marco Polo, but the tagger walks away from every other voice.
Incorrect: This is a visual novel where you do courtroom scenes instead of date people
Correct: This is a normal visual novel where you try to get Edgeworth to fall for Wright while happening to play investigation and courtroom minigames in between
I think the real character developement is that Shen can do a Southern accent now
2:43:00 I love Shen's laughing breakdown at her idea.
*OBJECTION!*
Your honor my shoulder beeped because it's a microbomb- I mean it's a metal plate from surgery!
The breakdown happened in real time, you love to see it.
It’s the wheeze after the bullet is found 😂😂
Idk why but I can imagine Phoenix shoving the metal detector in von Karma’s face
2:44:36
“The metal detector subbed”
WHAT WITH ALL THE FRICKING ACE ATTORNEY CHARACTERS SUBBING TO SHEN
honestly this is the funniest case i've seen so far
spoilers:
just like-
cross examining a fucking parrot
then using a metal detector on a man who has had a bullet in his shoulder for FIFTEEN YEARS (normally impossible by human terms but i guess von karma is built different)
I mean having a bullet inside your body for years isn't that farfetched. Long as it didn't fragment or hit any vital points, then it can stay inside the body. Of course it's incredibly stupid on his part keeping evidence lodged inside him: But there's some basis of reality to that.
And a bird in life was actually used as a witness for a murder trial.
It's so cute to see the Judge taking control of his courtroom. He'd been given quite the bullying by Karma, but he's always good about letting Phoenix get his chance, even if he takes a while to come around.
Until recently I thought this whole thing was extremely convoluted (which it is) but I just realized that the only way Phoenix could get Edgeworth innocent of the Hammond murder was by linking it to DL-6 causing Edgeworth to confess out of guilt.
This is where the Wrightworth saga begins
It started long ago
I look forward to every ace attorney stream. They are very entertaining to watch you play them.
I hope she also plays until T&T in the trilogy because I haven’t seen my favorite youtubers play until T&T
Daniel (RTGame) may be continuing until T&T but he’s going to be taking a break from the game for a while
2:44:38 you're sweating bullets, my good sir!
Heh. Clever bastard.
The part in the evidence room got me so angry when I first played the game. I kept trying to figure out what the game wanted me to do (as I had talked to everyone and explored everything), and then I sort of went "wait...no way. There's no way it wants me to show a possible killer that we have evidence which can implicate him!"
I messed around for about five minutes before I realized that in order to progress, I absolutely HAD to present the damning evidence to someone who was (in the very least) involved with conspiracy murder.
I believe I then spent the next few minutes actually shouting at the game, and Phoenix, for being so stupid (and for Phoenix not learning his lesson on what happened the LAST time he tried to present evidence to the guilty party).
late but i wondered if anyone decided to not be dumb during that, thanks for your story!
@@loethefox6938 Sadly, the game forces you to be dumb for that part; ye.
Thank you for taking the time to read it!
What makes that part even more infuriating, is the fact that Phoenix is so fucking braindead that he showed evidence implicating Redd White, got framed for a murder, and barely survived the trial only because he had a ghost friend.
Then, the braindead attorney goes to Dee Vasquez with possible evidence that may implicate her in Jack Power's murder and almost gets KILLED if it wasn't for Gumshoe being right there.
And then fucker goes again, Maya tells him to run, Maya gets tazed, and he still sits his ass down and gets tazed by Manfred von Karma.
( Phoenix also boasted in Turnabout Samurai I think, how you should never show your hand to the enemy party in court, making those three incidents even dumber than they already are )
Redd White, Dee Vasquez, and Von Karma. Phoenix confronted each of them with his evidence that they were involved with the murder, with no back up, without telling anyone else what he'd found, and with the evidence at hand rather then safely stored somewhere...
It's like he just expects criminals to simply surrender and give up when confronted like this, and while Phoenix is depicted as being extremely optimistic/naive about things... you'd think he'd have learned by now...
1:00:07
1:00:48
... For replay purposes UwU
S-Shen no they're TOTALLY Straight dude bros I swear! Aahahah yeah totally Straight and COMPLETELY heterosexual explanation 👀
When in doubt, cross-examine the Parrot.
Nice to see you trying Rise From The Ashes. It's incredibly long but just as satisfying in the end as this one.
Baliff..... *B R I N G O U T T H E P A R R O T*
Shen's going to be so sad when she plays the next game
Is it cause the begayone? Sorry for being vauge cause I dont wanna spoil it
@@clony3094 Because of certain man being an idiot. You know what I mean.
And she will be extremely relieved and happy again throughout the game as well
But we'll also hear one of the best themes i the series
@@clony3094 oh, maybe?
1:58:46 "PLEASE just take the L!!"
*Bring out the parrot please* 🦜
@@zomboids2100 *desk slam* "GOOOODDAMNIT!!!!!"
Omg I can't wait to see her reaction to Gant and his theme next stream
yeah. Sometimes when dreams turn out to be repressed memories, it's memories that have been somewhat twisted to make you believe something that isn't entirely true
2:00:34 People, we have gone so far as to ASK A PARROT FOR A F##### TESTIMONY!
Just wait until he cross-examines an orca. :)
And guess what? It's actually not that farfetched to reality: Because there was a parrot used as a witness in a murder trial
No, that isn't the best thing here. It goes so far that Von Karma, not to look insane himself, said and suggested to Phoenix that he maybe needs to interrogate the parrot EXPECTING that Phoenix would try to do something like that, and fucker went to re-train Polly JUST SO SHE DOESN'T SPEAK about DL-6.
What Von Karma didn't expected tho was the judge saying that Polly being Yoni's fiannce's name, and 12/28 matching the date of case expiration would is coincidental enough to be considered as a evidence.
Moral of story, never prompt Spiky Hellnut that wants to protect his boyfriend with absurd methods. He will do them, and somehow bullshit his way through it
This case was very exciting, i actually felt myself screaming on the inside several times whenever i was sure i had gotten it.
(2:24:20) I always thought this was the weirdest thing. Edgeworth was a CHILD at the time of the DL-6. How are you gonna call someone to trail and call them guilty for that? xD Especially with the way it happened.
well it would be a stain on his reputation and he is an adult NOW. Even if he wasnt imprisoned for it it would lead to social stigma (because japan), much like how Yanni Yogi was affected.
Perfect timing! I am having a crummy day at work and I needed some silly lawyers to scream at. 💕
Hope your day is better now :(
I fucking hate how every time there is something suspicious and criminal done by karma and the producer, it’s always just brushed off.
Shen comenting on the gay of this game is the best thing xD cannot wait to see her reaction to the next games, it's been a blast to watch these.
nothing about these games is gay, if you think so then smth is wrong with u
@@redfox-ss8pq You might've missed the part where the developers started indulging the fans with gay fanservice and the fact that the character designer (and a big influence on how the characters have turned out) is a BL-manga artist who also ships the main leads in AA
@@treyla140 i call bs until you show me prove
@@redfox-ss8pq just open Kumiko Suekane wiki page, saying that I'm moving on
"But why did you go to the boat shack mr grossberg! - Rt game
Sorry
Him getting hung on that for so long was so funny
1:00:09
Leaving this for myself. No heterosexual explanation is right, Shen.
"the murderer and Hammond" and "Edgeworth and Hammond" are pretty much the same thing from Von Karma's POV.
god, Shens reaction throughout this stream is everything to me
especially this one 1:00:45
The gun was fired 3 times, twice on the night, and once the next day for the ballistics test.
Nevermind. Evidently the ballistics test isn't included in the 3 times fired
Lana is mia’s edgeworth
*It's gay attorney time once again.*
Von Karma's worst mistake was threatening Phoenix's boyf- best friend.
The power of gaymance is too strong, poor karma had no chance
Historians say they were the best of friends
Ooh, case 5, a long one. Added in this version of the game. They had fun with it, obviously.
i have a let the parrot take the stand tshirt
3:33:01 now inagine her having a very strong irish accent
32:18 They should care because sequence of events is important to figure out what happened and where. If the time of the gunshots align with what Larry heard on the radio, then his testimony will be accepted as truth. That's what matters most
Most of this stream is just shenpai going crazy over to guys that might have a thing for each other and I am here for all of it.
To bad i already know how this will end because of the anime.
Only saying, the plot thickens
Nevermind the taser wasn't shown in the anime
@@oiergarcia7533 The anime is quite different from the game lol
Hold It!!
You watched anime without playing games.
@@adityagandhi9882 wish i did play them trust me
@@adityagandhi9882 Objection!
the witness personal preference of entertainment is irrelevant to this court
The final case in Ace Attorney is prob my favorite! Ema is my favorite of the assistants in the original trilogy
insanity take but whatever
she's so trigger happy with skipping text appearing that she skips some text by accident XD
When you said a dating game I jumped up
Honestly if you did end up making a dating sim id probably love it, you have such an infectious personality and unique art & writing style!
There is no fifth episode, you've already finished the first ace attorney game.
The fifth episode was added when they ported the game to the DS and wanted to make a tech demo of what they could do with the DS
for some reason i thought you being all meta saying there is no fifth episode *of this playthrough* and got very confused lmfao
I love watch you play ace attorney it is so fun to watch you voice the character and what not. If you liked von karma in the game you should totally check out the ace attorney anime it makes him even more of a douche bag but in a funny good way.
Now: "Awesome! 3D items, that's so cool"
After a while this might be: "Holy sh*t! How am I gonna [Spoilers redacted]!?"
Holy shit I was waiting for you ❤
Ayy, the 1st of Ace Attorney's 2 unintentional Legally Blonde references
(Come on, you know 2nd one is Klavier)
Just what I Needed!
I love how they just gloss over Karma committing murder without a guilty verdict, even with evidence.
There is no heterosexual explanation for this!
*N-No no! They're TOTALLY Straight dude bros I swear!*
3 Times in a row, its Proven that there relationship ain't platonic
To hopefully stem the spread of misinformation, the chat message that said the USA is banning the gays is referring to a bill/law in Florida specifically. As far as I know, no similar bill/law is being put into effect in other states.
That clears up a lot of stuff! Why does Florida hate gays tho?
@@anonymousnlonely3315 I have no idea. I live in California, and or laws and political climate are different from that of other states, so I don't really have any more information than that. It could be that a majority of those in power in Florida are homophobic, but since I don't live there, I can't say.
*sigh* always florida...
Didnt one of the supreme court guys say he wanted to review gay marriage and contraceptives after roe v wade?
@@guillermostreiger2307 Yes, he did. Noticeably, not interracial marriage, despite that ruling being made on the same grounds as the ones he wants to repeal. I’m assuming because he is in fact in an interracial marriage.
God if this game had Shenpai calling them gay I can’t wait for her reaction to the newer games
Really? I think this is the gayest we see them both, along with T&T maybe. Then again I don't remember much from Farewell my Turnabout and I haven't played the two last ones yet
@@pau-chan653 I mean yeah they’re very gay here, I just like their married couple-esque banter in the most recent game
Spoiler alert \/
I can't wait for her reaction to Klavier first interaction with Apollo it was literally so gay lmao
I just watched on Twitch and had to suffer through 30 adds and now I see that it was uploaded to TH-cam :
Even if Edgeworth was found guilty in the DL-6 incident, what were they gonna do? Jail him?? For accidentally killing his father back when he was like 9??? I don't know how the legal system works but I doubt he would've gotten a harsh punishment if he was found guilty back then? Like just give him a therapist oh my god... I doubt they would've been allowed to give him a bigger punishment than they would've given to a 9 year old child who just lost his father. Then again this is Ace Attorney and the legal system here is a joke so it's entirely possible he would've gotten like, 15 years in prison for this "crime" lmao
when edgey and phoenix say gex
OBGIETCTION THE TESTIMONY IS BLACK
Can somebody PLZ tell me what the name of that SICK remix is? Plz!
17:43 Even if Nick can't show proof, I don't think Von Karma can either. So, unless someone can show solid proof, the caretaker's word is meaningless
wait does shen have a bird? i heard squeaking in the background but i am unsure of the source
She does actually: A cockatiel named Mari
3:28:00
Lmao what
Spoilers:
THEN HOW THE FUCK DID EDGEWORTH
GAHH NVM
*Laughs in Furio Tigre*
@@pau-chan653 OHH YEAHH HIM TOO
THATS EVEN WORSE 😭😭😭
MF THATS A CARDBOARD CUT OUT
I want Angel to step on me
digital footprint
Inwill come back 3:11:46
There is an explanation. Can bros not just be bros and not be in a relationship
Did Doug walker piss on the floor?
2:44:34 NOT metal_detector SUBBING AT THIS EXACT MOMENT XD
Edit: so many well timed subs with character names like larry_butz at 2:56:15 XD and many more. especially for von karma and edge worth but im not gonna list them all.
Me: "look, there is nothing gay about wanting to reunite with an old bestfriend you knew all the way back from gradeschool. there is absolutely no evidence to support these clai-"
Shen: "OBJECTION!"
>points at quote from actual game:
Phoenix: "I'm the only one who knows the real Edgeworth. I'm the only one who can help him."
Me: "Uhh... Yeah, no I can't defend against that quote."
xD
Or Phoenix could just be really good bro.
poor phoenix though-
LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
1:58:11 what about his DNA?
After the trial Edgeworth died of ligma and clussy fever.
Who the hell is Steve Jobs?
@@QuicklimeTime sugma nuts
@@QuicklimeTime
*Ligma ballz*
hyoingi moingi
Looks like edgeworth is “edging” his boyfriend for what its “worth”.
I will never get over the power of these gay ass lawyers man
Shenpai, you are obviously exaggerating this whole gay thing. They are totally just very good friends.
Life long room mates who shared a bed
Why does friendship always have to be sexually charged for people?
*Spoilers for the vid*
I was dying at the metal detector part and Von karma's face I was crying 💀
Same!! Lmao people thought I was having an allergic reaction because I was just out of breath laughing
The funniest part is that that’s usually the part where people get stuck on the MOST, except for Shen who came up with a “joke”.