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You mentioned the USAF is limiting its f-35 purchases but I’ve found nothing capping its total purchases to around 1000. All articles say they will by less next year but still intend to reach 1,767 aircraft with 2458 across all branches
Ah fellow eagle lover.. though my 1st love is still the 5 sadly I never got a chance to play with the 22... it wasnt even officially ack before I fin my time there
The F-15 has always been one of the best fighters ever. Plus being in the USAF as a KC-135 Crew Chief...I know from experience to never put all your defense in any one model of aircraft but in MANY different models for safety. We need numbers and the F-15EX is a GREAT addition from a Great Aircraft.
What dope are u on? The AF generals think its hopeless.. they're right.. It a gizmo toy with shite pace, manoeuvrability, range.. single engine piece of shite.. that's why they're resurrecting and improving to give us the F15 EX
@@connorwaldman8124 Agreed. Although I actually think the YF-23 was the coolest fighter ever and the XB-70 Valkyrie is the coolest airplane ever but they never entered service so doesn't count.
I can absolutely see several F15EX following an F22 or F35 and rapid fire 40 plus air to air missiles while Raptor/lighting Assign targets to each missiles. This is the missile truck the 5th gen fighters needed. Great video, thank you.
And adding onto that beautiful thought, in the future, each fighter can have multiple armed combat drones that they can control. A huge force multiplier.
Except we aren't fighting WWII. Enemy fighters land before the strike package comes through. The threat is cheap, numerous, highly advanced surface to air, and this lumbering beast will get your wife a visit by blue suiters. Its all about a stealthy air to ground workhouse, and the F-35 is not the solution because it can't carry anything internally. Might as well by 2 F-16s. At least the IADS won't read "Tilt" when you're 100 miles away, like this F-15 relic of the 1960s.
@@FFE-js2zp check your facts, the F35 has 2 internal weapons bays. F22, F35 can be a forward observer/ weapons designator. An F15 can linger 30 plus miles behind and rapid fire air to air or air to ground missiles to the target designated. It’s called a strike package made up of multi generational tach. Would not be possible without a stealth capable plane.
The F-35 has no precision weapon capability, internally. The stupid engineers have never flown in combat, so they didn't understand the impact of ROE on weapons employment. An LBG seeker and fin kit won't fit inside. Its a huge miss. These epic design misses are more common than not, like Boeing's colosal failure to track the first V-22 requirement to carry a simple HUMVEE..
Great video. Yeah I think the USAF is being smart in fielding a mix of F22,F35, and F15 Ex it means good flexibility in mission planning and execution plus it’s a great plane undefeated in aerial combat
The plan is to use the F35 or F22, to fly in stealth, discover targets, then call on F15ex with 22 missiles to destroy enemy threats. The stealth planes can’t carry much ordinance, that would change with the F15Ex. Soviet doctrine has always been to launch many aircraft against our few, thus overloading our defense systems. With this platform, that would not be possible.
As Scotty from Star Trek said "Use the right tool for the job, lad!" Having a mix of systems allows you more flexibility to deal with situations, and increases the difficulty for the opposing force as they have to deal with a myriad of systems, radars, jammers. etc. They might be able to defeat 1 or 2 types, but 3? That's a taller order....
@@PilotPhotog Yes. Mistakenly shot 6 times by a fellow Canadian soldier on Juno Beach... 4 times in the leg, once in the hand (eventually losing a middle finger), and once in the chest. He was the rare exception who was saved by his smoking... because a silver cigarette case he had slowed down the bullet that would have hit his heart!
The most epic event was when the Israeli pilot flew back with 1 wing and landed at almost 3 timed normal landing speed. They repaired it and it flew another 15 years.
It should have been a warning that the F-15 is a useless relic, but Boeing spun it the near shoot down as a good thing. Like we need a plane than can get shot down more effectively. Buying a 1960s fighter shows how behind the USAF is. We are at risk.
@@FFE-js2zp what are you talking about? It lost its wing during excersize physically hitting another plane that was right under it and climbing. No one shot at it.
@@Agm1995gamer Whatever. The point is battle damage survivability, which is a stupid metric. Something that's 2x as big has double the chance of physically being hit by anything, AAA, birds, other airplanes, small arms. And the radar cross section is even bigger. The F-15 was a great 1960s design and 1970s Fighter. Today the F-15EX (X for dead X-pilot) is a massive liability. If we paid Boeing a few billion to slit the throats of our pilots they'd be thrilled at the cost savings. And wing area is measured tip to tip, this airplane lost maybe a third. No big deal.
@@FFE-js2zp Actually no, the engineer's after evaluation said this "the fuselage is basically a wing on itself. So as long as you're going fast enough. You don't even need wings. Hence why he landed at such high speed. It was a friendly air collision yes. Not combat damage. I'm not aware of an F15 actually needing to be scrapped because of battle damage of any kind.
Yeah, F-15EX can holding 22 Aim-120 missile Air to Air or later upgrade add Aim-260 holding 12 Air to Air... China PL-15 2016 no match American Aim-260 missile service 2023 or 2024...
Even on the front lines, 2 F-15EX in the rear with 12 AIM-260's apiece just pairs really well with 2 to 4 forward operating F-35's carrying 6 AIM-120's each.
@@gogoat_2894 internally, through block 3, they carry 4 AIM-120's or similar sized missiles, or 8 SDB-II's. The "sidekick" rack (block 4, but easily put into earlier versions too) can carry 6 AIM-120's internally. It's really more primarily designed around the AIM-120 than the AIM-9. Obviously you 'can' put AIM-9's in any slot which would hold an AIM-120. And there are lots of external options of course. Perhaps you are thinking of the F-22, which carries 6 AIM-120's and 2 AIM-9's internally?
There are so many cool tactics they could use with combinations of F-35/F-22'S with F-15's too. It would be great to lure an enemy aircraft wing into tailing a "wounded" Eagle, then have Raptors jump them...Lot's of things they could get up to. I sure would like to have seen what the Silent Eagle's RCS looked like. It would have been cool to have an actual bargain stealth fighter.
@@jrftworth it's still nostalgic and will get the USA beaten and surprised in a fight! It's just arrogance really. Look how easily Iran took down a global hawk in it's " stealth" mode.
@@cedriceric9730 you're an uneducated and grossly misinformed. There was no surprise, no fight and you are the arrogant one on here. The F-15 has been in service for over 4 decades and has 104 confirmed kills with zero losses. It is the deadliest and most effective combat aircraft in history. Iran got lucky is all and the United States can wipe Iran or any other country off the map whenever it chooses to do so
Great vid. I 100% agree with your assessment on why we need the EX. You simply don't need 5th gen for everything. Imagine a 4 ship of of EX's ripple firing all of the amraams into oncoming targets taking datalink info from 5th gen assets.
My cousin was in the Air Force for 20 years. He started in F-16s but was overjoyed to transition into the F-15E. He left after injuring his knee and could no longer pass the flight physical. The day he got his down check he put in his retirement and is now flying 737s. He loved the Eagle's ability to accelerate in a vertical climb. He said that another upgrade that he would have liked to see was thrust vector exhaust nozzles. It would make the most successful fighter in history even better.
@@genericyoutubename-nx5xp Correct. F-15s were always in the barrier instead of at the marshal point, and the strike package breathed a sigh of relief that our RCS wouldn't be the size of Dallas today.
Hey Man! It's always a great day when you upload. F-15EX's are beast. Although I love those sexy 'turkey' F-35s but F-15EX packs a heavy punch. Surely they'll serve as a strong foundation as did the legacy Eagles. Good day sir.
It was my impression that initially there would be two versions... the EX (upgraded F-15E), but also eventually an X single seat variant, which would be an updated F-15C more focused on air superiority. Is this still true, or is it now all EX all the time?
AFAIK there is now only one version, the F-15EX (rebranded as the Eagle 2), but it's still intended primarily for A2A missions, as a replacement for the F-15C/D. Only 2 seater aircraft will be produced to keep the production line simpler and hence cheaper, but the back seat will be replaced with avionics and computers in the initial version, so the aircraft will actually be flown by a single pilot.
Kinda funny how the F-15 was originally the high end of the high/low mix with the F-16 being the low end, now the Eagle is the low end with the F-22 and F-35 making up the high end
@@heavyizthacrown-5842 the irony of what was once top of the line becoming the cheap alternative to something more effective and expensive, just goes to show how much more complex fighter aircraft have become.
There was a F-15 called F-15 S/MTD (also F-15 A.C.T.I.V.E) which had TVC & Canards. That particular F-15 could not only do backflips, it could do every crazy gainer/twisting/swan/somersault move that modern Olympic divers do. Only jet powered. With weapons.
This has to be one of those rare times when something was beyond its time, when it was conceived. Minus the RCS issue, if you applied the advancements of the F-15 ACTIVE to every standard F-15, it may compete well with 6th gen fighters.
If you're going with non-stealth, you might as well create as many external mounting points as possible. The F-15 is such a versatile platform that I doubt it will go away anytime soon.
Also...some can carry a 💩load of ordnance that every other fighter can’t carry. Why did they buy it? You don’t need an all stealth inventory to defend the homeland, they also need bomb/missile trucks for all those F-35’s.
@@spartanx9293 it’s not. What I wanted to show here is that you can throw pretty much anything at an F-15 and it will obliterate it and win the fight (except maybe an F-22 or an F-35, at long range. It will still eat them in a dogfight...)
Having an all stealth force is expensive and unnecessary. The latest comment by the Air Force chief on developing a blended 4th and 5th generation fighter to replace the F-16 is a smart move.
It's unnecessary because stealth aircraft do their job so we'll! The nighthawk killed 30%of all targets in iraq with only 5%of total fleet strength A more advanced enemy will likey sustain their airdefences long enough to make stealth necessary thought the war. 4th gen is a waste leave it to third rate powers
Yeah I think we need a good mix of up to date fighter aircraft and not to forget they are working on the next generation fight along with stealth drones.
F15 EX is what you need to do flight interdiction when you need to show force to an enemy testing defense response. This thing looks bad ass with a full missile load.
I kinda want to find out how mounting fuel tanks, pods, bombs, or other heavy gear impacts a fighter's performance. Haven't seen it discussed or found amy details, but I have a feeling it's important.
I remember hearing a former F-16 pilot say that when carrying a full combat load they sometimes needed afterburner just to keep up with tankers to refuel. There’s only so much they can keep adding to some airframes
Not sure but working on the USAF's FMS Saudi Arabian program at RobinsAFB I do know that for some reason there has been or was not too long ago the request from the Saudi's to modify the F-15's wings to facilitate a AIM-9 Sidewinder missile like that of the F-16 fighter. The Airforce was apparently having some difficulty explaining how of course in its current configuration it couldn't be done unless you're fine with them sticking out at like a 20º angle and if you did modify the wingtips to enable the option it would have adverse effects to the jet's overall handling. Kinda funny I thought.
Great video! Maybe they'll add radar absorbing material so the RCS is reduced, but then again, F15s, F16s, A10s, and a combination of F22s and 35s makes air dominance fairly easy
Saw an F-5 Tiger (couldn’t identify what variant, probably an E) in aggressor camouflage in the private jet terminal at my local airport! Definitely a single seater variant, was able to get a picture. Got real excited when I realized what it was and ironically enough I was listening to Ace Combat music (Faceless Soldier) when I spotted it.
The ones who stand behind the F15EX are right here. F15s are battle tested and their win rate is not a question. Advancements have followed the program. This aircraft is not concerned in air combat. It rules and hands out butt whoopings as a matter of habit. Pretty hard to break that kind of habit. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷
@Y M, I don’t think India will be sold this plane given that they have bought planes from Russia. That would be a strategic error as I see it. There will always be varying points of view here. That is the one thing we enjoy in this country. It isn’t perfect, but it is trying to be as much as possible. No country is without some problems. The world is pretty scary as a whole and some are downright frightening! We do the best we can and that is all we can do under the circumstances. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷
The use of the F15 air frame makes sense in this upgrade. Stealth costs a fortune and will be overcome at some stage. Stand off weapons and line of sight combat are just as much past as present. Wish we had just two squadrons in UK to give range, loiter and punch.
Awesome video - you got quite alot of good views of the F-15! :) I think that there should be a Multi-role fighter that isn't compromised by having a Stealth Capability - focus on weapons and manouvrebility.
Awesome 'beast' of the skies. Un-touchable in its domain. Apex 'predator'. Without Eagles, vermin run amok. Thank you for this excellent video. I hope I find you well. Stay safe, and please keep going with your excellent work. ATB.
@@PilotPhotog Thank you for the good wishes. I'm now pulling through a bacterial lung infection, been rough as rats for two months, hence not been keeping up with my favourite military aircraft channel: my only one actually! Yours are the best for me, so the rest have 'gone on'. I'm 'old school my' friend; better by far to devote ones attention on one excellent thing, rather than several average ones, for me. Stay safe man. Best regards, Tim.
@@KernowekTim thank you Tim and I wish you the speediest recovery possible! I’ve got a couple of videos coming up that you will enjoy and a parody video set for April 1st. Be well my friend.
This is the fighter jet Canada really needs. Forget about the F-35 stealth crap as eventually radar technology will catch up to stealth detection. This has the legs, speed, and fuel capacity for the long arctic patrols / interception and will last 40 plus years as Canada takes FOREVER to procure new fighters. Sure it's an older plane design on the outside but the technology is new and modern. It's a testament to the product when the US that can have the new 5th generation stealths but still loves, purchases, and utilizes these F-15s.
I'm old enough to remember when Canada was still flying the F-101 POS as our premiere interceptor. They were so pathetic that when the TU-95 Bear bomber pilots were intercepted along the Arctic and west coasts they would purposely fly the plane below the stall speed of the F-101, which would force them to circle the Bears to stay with them, thus fatiguing the pilots and burning excessive fuel. We needed a replacement. The US at the time was trying to sell us their surplus and obsolete F-106 as a replacement instead. PM Pierre Trudeau rejected them as unsatisfactory, and the US offered us the F-18 as a compromise. I liked the F-18, but we absolutely should've had the F-15 instead. The F-15 was a bleeding-edge air supremacy fighter, much like the F-22 was. But the politics of the time denied us that aircraft, as the Trudeau government was not on best terms with the US at the time. The main problem I have now with the F-15 (and the F/A-18E) is they're built by Boeing (ugh), and the US is very protectionist. I wouldn't trust them to supply us the necessary replacement parts. This has already happened repeatedly with our F-18s and Hercules transports. The only viable and trustworthy replacement now is the Saab Griffin. It's not the great plane the F-15 is, but Sweden has offered to build them in Canada, along with the means to produce our own infrastructure for parts. That could help to revitalize our aerospace industry, instead of being a money pit like the F-35. I'd sooner we invest in Canada's future then continue feeding the US war machine.
The F15 is the plane Canada needs. Log legs, and fast! It was one of the contenders when Canada chose the F18s. Along with the Tornado, and even the F14!
You videos make feel my nation are strong and getting better than ever and l can't wait for 6 generations and remember you can hide but for sure we found you
While the F-35 is going to have the added stealth benefit, I think there's some use for the Eagle's superior range, speed, carrying capacity, fuel and higher sortie rate and availability time. A healthy combo will give you more strike options and give you the ability to drop more bombs on target.
And the best part is that the infrastructure is already there mind the new parts. Should be availably quickly to boot. I have no problems using F15's as missile trucks as well as we extend our missile ranges. 1 pair f22 fighter suppression, 6 F- 35's attack - fighter suppression- jamming, 4-10 f15EX spamming targets at range while the f-35's provide targeting data. I love it!
"If IT Ain't broke.... Why fix it!!????" F-15EX: "Whoaaaa....****!!! Look @ ALL those WEAPONS!!!! Enemies: "Whoaaaa....****!!! Look @ ALL those WEAPONS!!!!
Neat, almost brilliant. That this will be filling the gap fewer F35s leave was on my mind before, also that a mix with 5th-gen fighter-bombers is most powerful. Thank you. May the PLAF stay grounded!
It hinges on the idea that air defenses can be successfully knocked down in a contested airspace in a near peer conflict. Its a very idealistic strategy. There is a reason that the original plan was an all 5th gen fleet.
My guess is that the EX wasn't available when Canada began their search and they (Boeing) doesn't want to compete with their own Super Hornet? Again just my speculation, but the EX would look great in RCAF livery...
Yes I think the Eagle is an awesome plane and if it will help save cost then yes it should be considered as another aircraft that would be capable of being a great back-up in our acrinol.
“Let’s take a look at how an acting SECDEF who was a marketing exec for Boeing, tells the Air Force they’re getting a plane they never wanted or asked for."
Greatly appreciate videos like this that celebrate the US Airforce proven attack aircraft designs that have been in service for many decades fulfilling the needs of numerous airforces around the globe. The F15 Eagle is like Arm & Hammer baking sofa - every few years someone discovers yet another use for it that bolsters its value proposition, continued sales, and multitude of uses. On the flip side I think the American tax payer has been duped with the ultra high R&D costs of the F22 Raptor (Now Discontinued) and F35 Strike Force Variants. To spend all that Dough and have ten years or less production runs at $100M plus a copy is outrageous.
@LeMao ZeBron you're still thinking in the past There is simply no future for those tactics The age of the " fighter" is over When I look at the direction the wind is blowing the future is going to be 70-90 % unmanned , from air sea land and space. Even the f35 has been cut short
Stealth has been oversold. Stealth aircraft with an incredible cost in terms of maintenance and in a much larger cost per hour than all other airplanes is of limited utilities. Stealth merely means that an adversary near peer only has to put in more wider band radars to defeat stealth. This purchase of this aircraft shows common sense and meaningful procurement on the part of the Air Force.
Unless your RCS is that of a 737. Most BVR missiles are used for posturing in the opening salvo of a BVR fight, and you want to be the one who sees first. I suspect these will be used for replacements for the F-15E in a primary strike role working in conjunction with F-35As who kick down the door for them, jam threat radars cooperatively, and empty them as bomb trucks in the force mix if they forward-deploy. It’s a head-scratcher right now though since the USAF never asked for it.
@@LRRPFco52 Yup. Spam the enemy fighter screen with missiles which should allow the our forces to mop them up as they scramble to avoid getting shot down. Granted Russian fighters also tend to carry a decent amount with decent range so he who spams first and with the most should win. Needless to say there should be plenty of losses on all sides with the quality of missiles nowadays.
@@wolfgangjr74 We already have fleets of decoy missiles for that, both surface and air-launched. We moved away from mutual detection BVR fights to unfair unseen WEZ/NEZ profiles with F-22 & F-35, where pk increases dramatically. The F-15EX is a backwards step in that fight that would jeopardize a huge chunk of A2A missiles if employed against threat air. Right now it's a toss-up between Air National Guard NORAD/ADF mission in CONUS, with whispers of replacing aging Strike Eagles. The least common denominator is keeping a Boeing production line open.
Amazing video like always! Been excited for it and loved it! Though I do have a question. Does the F-15EX incorporate thrust-vectoring? I remember reading somewhere that it does use it, but I can’t be sure of it. I mainly wondered so because on the EX’s first flight, it performed a surprisingly tight turn that didn’t look normal for an F-15 to perform. It looked like something straight from an F-22. But with TV or not, it’s still an amazing upgrade and an amazing fighter that will server phenomenally!
Right now the EX does not feature thrust vectoring - but that's not to say it won't at some point....just speculation on my part but I could see a Thrust Vectoring version as well. Thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog I think that maneuver was possible because of the 'Eagle EX' using FBW FCS. Digital flight control allows greater maneuverability because it can push the jet into rigorous flight regimes requiring extreme AoA but without over G or going into departure. Additionally, if you have ever seen video of the incredibly fast response of the F-35's control surfaces, plus the extreme range of motion which is far greater than any previous jet, it's only logical to think that maybe Boeing made a few subtle changes to the EX, like control surfaces with the response like that of the F-35. Plus....hmmm....I wonder if maybe Boeing pulled a bit of prestidigitation & 'adjusted' the EX so that it's Center of Pressure is now slightly ahead of its Center of Gravity at airspeeds of 450 knots or less? Combined with the FBW FCS, this would produce a negative Stability F-15, which produces an aircraft that wants to turn rather than fly straight? I noticed that takeoff maneuver too; it was basically like the Raptor & F-35, take off, gear up, fly at 100 ft altitude to around 350 knots, then haul stick and immediately go straight up. I have never seen any F-15 (other than S/MTD) that could perform that maneuver. So yeah, they pulled some sorta sneaky tech move to get an Eagle to do that.
Thrust vectoring has been studied on the F-15 and more and they have not put it on any other aircraft other than the F-22. I think they have determined it’s not needed it. The technology was developed and tested on the F-15 active. It was 365 degree thrust vectoring and they chose not to use it. With the Russian fighters that have it, when they thrust vector they loose airspeed and fall. When the Indians brought thrust vectoring su-30s to red flag and fought the old F-15c’s in 1 vs 1 the eagle drivers took advantage of this and got easy kills because they were predictable and slow. Watch any airshow performance of the Russian thrust vectoring jets and you’ll see the first thing they have to do after a thrust vectoring maneuver is nose down to pick up air speed again, but if you watch any of the American planes do their maneuvers, usually they can flatten out and fly level or even climb. The US aircraft can do many of the same things as the Russian planes without thrust vectoring. Thrust vectoring looks cool in an air show and on video games, but has little use is a real life situation.
it's not that simple. The important measure in bvr is relative detection range. Absolute range goes something like (Power* RCS)^(1/4) so to see an F-22 with 1000 times less rcs than your F-15 at equal range you also need 1000 times more power density. That's impossible.
Doubtful. It's more about the about the fact many modern foes America faces don't have sophisticated radar threats and sending in F35s against them isn't cost effective.
Modern SAM system radar will see even stealth aircraft at a decent enough range that they'd be shot down if they try to attack the site. To be honest the stealth was never really impervious to radar in this sense. But the less powerful radars on fighters definitely won't spot a stealth plane until it's too late.
@@appa609 Power is not everything. Radar detection doesnt just depend on that! Sales men of stealth wanted everyone to belevie that. It also depends on antenna gain, processing of signals and wavelenght (very important). Altough power of radars increased it was the revolution of high gain, alternate wavelenght radars that made the change and that was made possible with ever increasing processing capacity. This eroded stealth advantage.
Sweeet! All F-15 tech through the years along with various mods and upgrades went into creating this badass plane. Along with the F-22, the U.S. rules the skies. Ownage!
I mean the F-15 is an extremely capable and combat proven platform(not to mention, sexy as hell). But it's really never been tried against an even halfway decent opponent with decent kit and training(emphasis on the word decent, not even good), so we can't really say one way or another if it's a better platform than say, the Flanker series, the Typhoon, or the Rafale, there's simply no data aside from extremely controlled and artificial military exercises. Leaving out the other variables like logistics, pilot training/hours, and the availability of spares and munitions; it's very difficult to tease apart which platform is better than the other. A profoundly useless and unrealistic comment, but I stand by it.
@Fred Garvin first of all the age of the fighter is over How dare you complement grandpa f15 yet even f35 has been toned down and isn't seen as future anymore?
Love it. The F-15 has the best service record of all fighter aircraft. Its original version set several world records at the time too. Makes perfect sense to update avionics and improve efficiency, and capacity of weapons and fuel. Much like the Super Hornet improved a great design, this will probably be the best non-stealth multirole aircraft in the USAF arsenal. Hell, if they scaled the Eagle down a bit and put folding wings on it, it would probably be the best in the USN arsenal too. I can’t see them being able to fit many of these in a carrier as it is.
Wait a minute the F-15 has always had 4 pylons! I built 3 monogram 1/48 scale models back in the '80s that had a starboard outer pylon with aql-119 ECM pod(think that's what it was) and the books i had cutaways depicting them the hardpoints.
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You mentioned the USAF is limiting its f-35 purchases but I’ve found nothing capping its total purchases to around 1000.
All articles say they will by less next year but still intend to reach 1,767 aircraft with 2458 across all branches
Also the f-35 is planned to receive a hypersonic weapon as well despite you saying it’s an advantage the EX has over the f-35
I served 24 years Air Force. My 1st jet was a 1974 model F-15! Retired working the F-22. Still love the Eagle!
the power of the eagle and agility of the raptor must be incredible to experience
Thanks for your service
The F-22 is my favorite plane. So beautiful and powerful.
Ah fellow eagle lover.. though my 1st love is still the 5 sadly I never got a chance to play with the 22... it wasnt even officially ack before I fin my time there
The sound the eagle makes says a powerful aircraft.
The F-15 has always been one of the best fighters ever. Plus being in the USAF as a KC-135 Crew Chief...I know from experience to never put all your defense
in any one model of aircraft but in MANY different models for safety. We need numbers and the F-15EX is a GREAT addition from a Great Aircraft.
Every time I see an F-15 with full afterburners I get goosebumps, by far the best looking jet ever, gets me right in the feels.
What dope are u on? The AF generals think its hopeless.. they're right.. It a gizmo toy with shite pace, manoeuvrability, range.. single engine piece of shite.. that's why they're resurrecting and improving to give us the F15 EX
@@pragmatist165 you're the one who is on something son.
Idk I’d say the f-22 is the most gorgeous and dangerous looking aircraft. It’s like a razor cutting through the sky 😍
@@connorwaldman8124 Agreed. Although I actually think the YF-23 was the coolest fighter ever and the XB-70 Valkyrie is the coolest airplane ever but they never entered service so doesn't count.
@@pragmatist165 poor lost soul
I can absolutely see several F15EX following an F22 or F35 and rapid fire 40 plus air to air missiles while Raptor/lighting Assign targets to each missiles. This is the missile truck the 5th gen fighters needed.
Great video, thank you.
And adding onto that beautiful thought, in the future, each fighter can have multiple armed combat drones that they can control. A huge force multiplier.
@@chickenjohnson7072 👍👍👍
Except we aren't fighting WWII. Enemy fighters land before the strike package comes through. The threat is cheap, numerous, highly advanced surface to air, and this lumbering beast will get your wife a visit by blue suiters. Its all about a stealthy air to ground workhouse, and the F-35 is not the solution because it can't carry anything internally. Might as well by 2 F-16s. At least the IADS won't read "Tilt" when you're 100 miles away, like this F-15 relic of the 1960s.
@@FFE-js2zp check your facts, the F35 has 2 internal weapons bays. F22, F35 can be a forward observer/ weapons designator. An F15 can linger 30 plus miles behind and rapid fire air to air or air to ground missiles to the target designated. It’s called a strike package made up of multi generational tach. Would not be possible without a stealth capable plane.
The F-35 has no precision weapon capability, internally. The stupid engineers have never flown in combat, so they didn't understand the impact of ROE on weapons employment. An LBG seeker and fin kit won't fit inside. Its a huge miss. These epic design misses are more common than not, like Boeing's colosal failure to track the first V-22 requirement to carry a simple HUMVEE..
I was an avionics tech on the F-15c at Eglin during the first Gulf War. Glad to see such a great fighter jet still making a difference.
Thanks for commenting and thank you for your service! The Eagle still has a lot of fight left!
Great video. Yeah I think the USAF is being smart in fielding a mix of F22,F35, and F15 Ex it means good flexibility in mission planning and execution plus it’s a great plane undefeated in aerial combat
Thank you and agreed!
Agree, we need the updated F15, but not too many.
Don't delude yourself .. the f35 is a cosseted jet.. its vulnerable.
The Helmut will work if you are Einstein.. maybe
@The Bear not even close guy.
The plan is to use the F35 or F22, to fly in stealth, discover targets, then call on F15ex with 22 missiles to destroy enemy threats. The stealth planes can’t carry much ordinance, that would change with the F15Ex. Soviet doctrine has always been to launch many aircraft against our few, thus overloading our defense systems. With this platform, that would not be possible.
As Scotty from Star Trek said "Use the right tool for the job, lad!" Having a mix of systems allows you more flexibility to deal with situations, and increases the difficulty for the opposing force as they have to deal with a myriad of systems, radars, jammers. etc. They might be able to defeat 1 or 2 types, but 3? That's a taller order....
Well said and you know Scotty was right...thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog Ah, yes... *Montgomery "Scotty" Scott* of *Star Trek* fame - played by *James Doohan,* a *_Canadian_* actor!
@@rudycarrera791 also a veteran of the D-Day invasion and the only red shirt to live 😎
@@PilotPhotog Yes. Mistakenly shot 6 times by a fellow Canadian soldier on Juno Beach... 4 times in the leg, once in the hand (eventually losing a middle finger), and once in the chest. He was the rare exception who was saved by his smoking... because a silver cigarette case he had slowed down the bullet that would have hit his heart!
@@rudycarrera791 wow did not know all that - thank you and live long and prosper 🖖
being built in my home town, i can’t wait to see it fly!
Awesome!
Which part?
@@timan2039 F-15 is built in St. Louis
Go forward, America! Long live the Nato! Long live freedom! Down with all dictatorships and terrorists all around the world! Best wishes from Germany!
Anyone else wish that we went back to giving cool names to Missles we went from Phoenix and sidewinder to amraam and jatm
the AIM-69X Hindgrinder
brits know how to name shit. MBDA Meteor
SPAAM
Special
Purpose
Air to AIR
Munition
@@appa609 the Brits are not solely responsible for the creation of the meteor
Fox 1, Fox 2, Fox 3. All you need.
The most epic event was when the Israeli pilot flew back with 1 wing and landed at almost 3 timed normal landing speed. They repaired it and it flew another 15 years.
Imagine being the mechanic who saw that thing taxi back to the hangar and being told that you have to put it back together.
It should have been a warning that the F-15 is a useless relic, but Boeing spun it the near shoot down as a good thing. Like we need a plane than can get shot down more effectively. Buying a 1960s fighter shows how behind the USAF is. We are at risk.
@@FFE-js2zp what are you talking about? It lost its wing during excersize physically hitting another plane that was right under it and climbing.
No one shot at it.
@@Agm1995gamer
Whatever. The point is battle damage survivability, which is a stupid metric. Something that's 2x as big has double the chance of physically being hit by anything, AAA, birds, other airplanes, small arms. And the radar cross section is even bigger. The F-15 was a great 1960s design and 1970s Fighter. Today the F-15EX (X for dead X-pilot) is a massive liability. If we paid Boeing a few billion to slit the throats of our pilots they'd be thrilled at the cost savings.
And wing area is measured tip to tip, this airplane lost maybe a third. No big deal.
@@FFE-js2zp Actually no, the engineer's after evaluation said this "the fuselage is basically a wing on itself. So as long as you're going fast enough. You don't even need wings. Hence why he landed at such high speed.
It was a friendly air collision yes. Not combat damage. I'm not aware of an F15 actually needing to be scrapped because of battle damage of any kind.
So... it can "carry up to 22 missiles" , is this Ace Combat?
Yeah, F-15EX can holding 22 Aim-120 missile Air to Air or later upgrade add Aim-260 holding 12 Air to Air... China PL-15 2016 no match American Aim-260 missile service 2023 or 2024...
High speed missile truck. Cuz F-35 can't do it
@@Shadowboost you think it's going to be fast with a full load out? That is hilarious if so.
my thought too lol
@@howardwest2707 Faster than a F-35 with the same load out. A LOT faster and higher too
Even on the front lines, 2 F-15EX in the rear with 12 AIM-260's apiece just pairs really well with 2 to 4 forward operating F-35's carrying 6 AIM-120's each.
F35s carry 4 120s ans 2 sidewinders.
@@gogoat_2894 internally, through block 3, they carry 4 AIM-120's or similar sized missiles, or 8 SDB-II's. The "sidekick" rack (block 4, but easily put into earlier versions too) can carry 6 AIM-120's internally.
It's really more primarily designed around the AIM-120 than the AIM-9.
Obviously you 'can' put AIM-9's in any slot which would hold an AIM-120. And there are lots of external options of course.
Perhaps you are thinking of the F-22, which carries 6 AIM-120's and 2 AIM-9's internally?
I do like the fact that you gave continuous and good commentary throughout. You get a thumbs up!
Some 22 pilots have told me that they sometimes go 3v11+ against 16s in dog fight practice and win pretty consistently, thought that seems pretty cool
@Fred Garvin it happens all the time look it up dummy
There are so many cool tactics they could use with combinations of F-35/F-22'S with F-15's too. It would be great to lure an enemy aircraft wing into tailing a "wounded" Eagle, then have Raptors jump them...Lot's of things they could get up to.
I sure would like to have seen what the Silent Eagle's RCS looked like. It would have been cool to have an actual bargain stealth fighter.
The Eagle has always been impressive since it's inception with speed, combat radius and weapons payload..👍
Nice to see fourth gen fighters getting upgrades like this.
It's not a "upgraded" jet per se, it's a brand new aircraft with modern technology and more powerful engines
@@jrftworth it's still nostalgic and will get the USA beaten and surprised in a fight!
It's just arrogance really.
Look how easily Iran took down a global hawk in it's " stealth" mode.
@@cedriceric9730 you're an uneducated and grossly misinformed. There was no surprise, no fight and you are the arrogant one on here. The F-15 has been in service for over 4 decades and has 104 confirmed kills with zero losses. It is the deadliest and most effective combat aircraft in history. Iran got lucky is all and the United States can wipe Iran or any other country off the map whenever it chooses to do so
Why get rid of proven platforms? Just improve on them.
@@Riceball80IA Exactly
Great vid. I 100% agree with your assessment on why we need the EX. You simply don't need 5th gen for everything. Imagine a 4 ship of of EX's ripple firing all of the amraams into oncoming targets taking datalink info from 5th gen assets.
Or can we use them as weasles as well. Just dump tons of the AR missiles in the sky making them waste their SAM inventory?
My cousin was in the Air Force for 20 years. He started in F-16s but was overjoyed to transition into the F-15E. He left after injuring his knee and could no longer pass the flight physical. The day he got his down check he put in his retirement and is now flying 737s. He loved the Eagle's ability to accelerate in a vertical climb. He said that another upgrade that he would have liked to see was thrust vector exhaust nozzles. It would make the most successful fighter in history even better.
The f 15 ex made a winning case. Fast , easy to service, speed , reasonably cost effective and hyper sonic launch platform 🙌. Thanks for sharing
I'm just happy to see the mighty and beautiful F-15 still dominating the skies!
Just a complete beast of an aircraft, it’s the very definition of a multi-role jet. Love it...
“Makes use of a built in satellite radio”
Pilot looking for Howard stern
Those marathon XM streams for those long missions 😂
DANG! That robovoice is the best I've ever heard!!! It sounds exactly like you're reading the script yourself! Subscribed on the human voice alone...
Great piece of work as always Juan, smart move by the USAF in combining fourth and fifth gen aircraft in their future plans, thanks!!!👍
Thanks as always Juan!
70's fighters age like 70's muscle cars and the F-15 is the Corvette
Hard to argue with that!
Mechanically the F15C aged like milk, it's always broken
@@genericyoutubename-nx5xp Correct. F-15s were always in the barrier instead of at the marshal point, and the strike package breathed a sigh of relief that our RCS wouldn't be the size of Dallas today.
So they fall apart and constantly rust and were a shadow of their former 60's predecesors?
@@PilotPhotog
Can you find out what happened to the proposal to upgrade the B-1B into 'F-1B'
status as a massive Omnirole Fighter?
Making the best even better. The biceps on that beast!! Awesome aircraft and a great video. Thanks.
Hey Man! It's always a great day when you upload. F-15EX's are beast. Although I love those sexy 'turkey' F-35s but F-15EX packs a heavy punch. Surely they'll serve as a strong foundation as did the legacy Eagles. Good day sir.
Thank you so much Vivek and thanks for commenting!
It was my impression that initially there would be two versions... the EX (upgraded F-15E), but also eventually an X single seat variant, which would be an updated F-15C more focused on air superiority. Is this still true, or is it now all EX all the time?
AFAIK there is now only one version, the F-15EX (rebranded as the Eagle 2), but it's still intended primarily for A2A missions, as a replacement for the F-15C/D.
Only 2 seater aircraft will be produced to keep the production line simpler and hence cheaper, but the back seat will be replaced with avionics and computers in the initial version, so the aircraft will actually be flown by a single pilot.
Been waiting on this, can't wait to watch
1970s USAF: The F-15 is our kill everything top of the line most expensive fighter
2020s USAF: The F-15 is our cost-effective option
Kinda funny how the F-15 was originally the high end of the high/low mix with the F-16 being the low end, now the Eagle is the low end with the F-22 and F-35 making up the high end
@@roberts9095 “Kinda funny” how?
@@heavyizthacrown-5842 the irony of what was once top of the line becoming the cheap alternative to something more effective and expensive, just goes to show how much more complex fighter aircraft have become.
Wonder how much a 6th-gen will cost.
@@roberts9095 Well, there's the 50 year time period
F-15 is like a cool and experienced grandpa
What would you call the M2 Browning then?
@@Predator42ID the grandpas great grandpa
A grandpa that would take your girl and then kick your ass. Ha
Just what we want to buy, 60 year old relics of the cold war.
Chuck Norris approves..
They should have given the F15EX the F22's vectored thrust and canted the tail fins more to reduce RCS (like they did with the Super Hornet).
There was a F-15 called F-15 S/MTD (also F-15 A.C.T.I.V.E) which had TVC & Canards. That particular F-15 could not only do backflips, it could do every crazy gainer/twisting/swan/somersault move that modern Olympic divers do. Only jet powered. With weapons.
@@skyhorseprice6591 if they gave the EX the canards and 3d TVC from the ACTIVE, it would be the best possible eagle.
The F15SE (Silent Eagle) demo had canted tails and a ram coating, along with modified CWTs for concealed carry of AMRAAMs.
@@skyhorseprice6591 it's amazing how thrust vectoring can turn almost any aircraft into an absolute aerobatic beast
@@Lalasfritas this is true. The f-22 and PAK FA are undeniably superior because of this
This has to be one of those rare times when something was beyond its time, when it was conceived. Minus the RCS issue, if you applied the advancements of the F-15 ACTIVE to every standard F-15, it may compete well with 6th gen fighters.
Well, you’re right! Look up the development of the USSR MIG Foxbat, which triggered the construction of the F-15, using hearsay specs.
Very good commentary and analysis PP.
A well-done video worth watching.
Thanks for posting!
If you're going with non-stealth, you might as well create as many external mounting points as possible. The F-15 is such a versatile platform that I doubt it will go away anytime soon.
To “why did they bought that thing ?” I would answer that some aircrafts can shoot satellites down, others can’t...
I don't think that particular missle is still in service
Also...some can carry a 💩load of ordnance that every other fighter can’t carry. Why did they buy it? You don’t need an all stealth inventory to defend the homeland, they also need bomb/missile trucks for all those F-35’s.
@@spartanx9293 it’s not. What I wanted to show here is that you can throw pretty much anything at an F-15 and it will obliterate it and win the fight (except maybe an F-22 or an F-35, at long range. It will still eat them in a dogfight...)
@@simondavid2519 its pretty damn super hard to defeat the f22 in a dogfight... but the f35 is easy peasy to get smashed out of the air in a dogfight
@@simondavid2519 F-22 wins every time at the merge. F-35 is supposed to fly like a hornet so it depends on tactics.
Having an all stealth force is expensive and unnecessary. The latest comment by the Air Force chief on developing a blended 4th and 5th generation fighter to replace the F-16 is a smart move.
Fr, an all stealth force is a fantasy and completely impractical
Agreed
It's unnecessary because stealth aircraft do their job so we'll! The nighthawk killed 30%of all targets in iraq with only 5%of total fleet strength
A more advanced enemy will likey sustain their airdefences long enough to make stealth necessary thought the war.
4th gen is a waste leave it to third rate powers
"essentially, if there is an airborne weapon in the
usaf arsenal the f-15ex can probably carry it"
Damn right.
EXcellent!!!
Yeah it’s me again. Love the work!!
Thank you much appreciated!
Yeah I think we need a good mix of up to date fighter aircraft and not to forget they are working on the next generation fight along with stealth drones.
bro your so underrated ive seen much bigger channels that aren't as good as you
thank you and much appreciated - all I can do is keep putting out content...if you build it they will come
@ScottNJ thank you!
Kent Kent
Agreed. Pilot Photog is highly underrated.
@@skyhorseprice6591 thank you! Much appreciated and all I can do is keep making videos. Let me know if there is a topic you’d like to see
F15 EX is what you need to do flight interdiction when you need to show force to an enemy testing defense response. This thing looks bad ass with a full missile load.
Like always, an excellent video. Thanks for your hard work.
Thank you!
0:05 - Somebody call Optimus; I think I spotted Thundercracker or Skywarp!
Haha
Plot Twist: It's actually Acid Storm.
I kinda want to find out how mounting fuel tanks, pods, bombs, or other heavy gear impacts a fighter's performance. Haven't seen it discussed or found amy details, but I have a feeling it's important.
I'm sure it's bad. That's why some fuel tanks can be dumped after they are empty.
I remember hearing a former F-16 pilot say that when carrying a full combat load they sometimes needed afterburner just to keep up with tankers to refuel. There’s only so much they can keep adding to some airframes
Not sure but working on the USAF's FMS Saudi Arabian program at RobinsAFB I do know that for some reason there has been or was not too long ago the request from the Saudi's to modify the F-15's wings to facilitate a AIM-9 Sidewinder missile like that of the F-16 fighter. The Airforce was apparently having some difficulty explaining how of course in its current configuration it couldn't be done unless you're fine with them sticking out at like a 20º angle and if you did modify the wingtips to enable the option it would have adverse effects to the jet's overall handling. Kinda funny I thought.
Great video! Maybe they'll add radar absorbing material so the RCS is reduced, but then again, F15s, F16s, A10s, and a combination of F22s and 35s makes air dominance fairly easy
It’ll be nice to have a legacy aircraft still in service. I would’ve liked to see some thrust vectoring on this version.
@Fred Garvin why not? Maybe tighter turns, more maneuverable. You tell me. Why are you opposed to it? Or are just typing to hear yourself talk.
Saw an F-5 Tiger (couldn’t identify what variant, probably an E) in aggressor camouflage in the private jet terminal at my local airport! Definitely a single seater variant, was able to get a picture. Got real excited when I realized what it was and ironically enough I was listening to Ace Combat music (Faceless Soldier) when I spotted it.
Nice! Those F-5s are sweet and look good from any angle.
The ones who stand behind the F15EX are right here. F15s are battle tested and their win rate is not a question. Advancements have followed the program. This aircraft is not concerned in air combat. It rules and hands out butt whoopings as a matter of habit. Pretty hard to break that kind of habit. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷
@Y M, I don’t think India will be sold this plane given that they have bought planes from Russia. That would be a strategic error as I see it. There will always be varying points of view here. That is the one thing we enjoy in this country. It isn’t perfect, but it is trying to be as much as possible. No country is without some problems. The world is pretty scary as a whole and some are downright frightening! We do the best we can and that is all we can do under the circumstances. Stay safe mates!😊👍🏻😷
The use of the F15 air frame makes sense in this upgrade. Stealth costs a fortune and will be overcome at some stage. Stand off weapons and line of sight combat are just as much past as present. Wish we had just two squadrons in UK to give range, loiter and punch.
Typhoon is as good
Awesome video - you got quite alot of good views of the F-15! :)
I think that there should be a Multi-role fighter that isn't compromised by having a Stealth Capability - focus on weapons and manouvrebility.
Damn man you knocked this one out quick
The best air superiority fighter ever!!!f 22 must prove a lot before he takes the title of the best.
Awesome 'beast' of the skies. Un-touchable in its domain. Apex 'predator'. Without Eagles, vermin run amok. Thank you for this excellent video. I hope I find you well. Stay safe, and please keep going with your excellent work. ATB.
Thank you Tim and thank you for being such a great long time supporter of my channel - ATB and stay safe as well!
@@PilotPhotog Thank you for the good wishes. I'm now pulling through a bacterial lung infection, been rough as rats for two months, hence not been keeping up with my favourite military aircraft channel: my only one actually! Yours are the best for me, so the rest have 'gone on'. I'm 'old school my' friend; better by far to devote ones attention on one excellent thing, rather than several average ones, for me. Stay safe man. Best regards, Tim.
@@KernowekTim thank you Tim and I wish you the speediest recovery possible! I’ve got a couple of videos coming up that you will enjoy and a parody video set for April 1st. Be well my friend.
@@PilotPhotog Thank you! I'm really looking forward to those, as well as all the future videos. Bang on!!!
Absolutely! A mix of the three would assure US air dominance for decades while they develop the sixth generation platform
Agreed and well said!
Imagery, editing, info. *SUPERB*
4:28 "Highly contested environments" 🤣😆
They were, verbally though.. military it never was a contest 🤣
your videos are outstanding! best narrarator on TH-cam. Very informative.
This is the fighter jet Canada really needs. Forget about the F-35 stealth crap as eventually radar technology will catch up to stealth detection. This has the legs, speed, and fuel capacity for the long arctic patrols / interception and will last 40 plus years as Canada takes FOREVER to procure new fighters. Sure it's an older plane design on the outside but the technology is new and modern. It's a testament to the product when the US that can have the new 5th generation stealths but still loves, purchases, and utilizes these F-15s.
I'm old enough to remember when Canada was still flying the F-101 POS as our premiere interceptor. They were so pathetic that when the TU-95 Bear bomber pilots were intercepted along the Arctic and west coasts they would purposely fly the plane below the stall speed of the F-101, which would force them to circle the Bears to stay with them, thus fatiguing the pilots and burning excessive fuel. We needed a replacement.
The US at the time was trying to sell us their surplus and obsolete F-106 as a replacement instead. PM Pierre Trudeau rejected them as unsatisfactory, and the US offered us the F-18 as a compromise. I liked the F-18, but we absolutely should've had the F-15 instead. The F-15 was a bleeding-edge air supremacy fighter, much like the F-22 was. But the politics of the time denied us that aircraft, as the Trudeau government was not on best terms with the US at the time.
The main problem I have now with the F-15 (and the F/A-18E) is they're built by Boeing (ugh), and the US is very protectionist. I wouldn't trust them to supply us the necessary replacement parts. This has already happened repeatedly with our F-18s and Hercules transports.
The only viable and trustworthy replacement now is the Saab Griffin. It's not the great plane the F-15 is, but Sweden has offered to build them in Canada, along with the means to produce our own infrastructure for parts. That could help to revitalize our aerospace industry, instead of being a money pit like the F-35. I'd sooner we invest in Canada's future then continue feeding the US war machine.
@@miketeeveedub5779 did not know that about the F-101s thanks for commenting!
The F15 is the plane Canada needs. Log legs, and fast! It was one of the contenders when Canada chose the F18s. Along with the Tornado, and even the F14!
Wow! The F15EX is awesome!
It sure is!
Excellent video, Tog. Curious how this baby performs in the real world.
Thank you Six and likewise!
@Fred Garvin f117 killed 30%of all strikes with only 10or so aircraft
In Iraq, while f15 hiding behind
You videos make feel my nation are strong and getting better than ever and l can't wait for 6 generations and remember you can hide but for sure we found you
In all honesty I still think the US just should've continued production of the F-22 Raptor. It was supposed to replace the 15c /d after all.
Thanks obama
Price tag
@@ahadubaraki7881 we could of handled it
@@spartanx9293 to fully replace over 1000 aircraft with F22 is doubtfully achiveable from economic and strategic standpoint
@@ahadubaraki7881 a man can dream
I’m drooling over this new F-15. Can’t wait to see it fly.
While the F-35 is going to have the added stealth benefit, I think there's some use for the Eagle's superior range, speed, carrying capacity, fuel and higher sortie rate and availability time. A healthy combo will give you more strike options and give you the ability to drop more bombs on target.
Exactly and you still need stealth - just not for every mission.
And the best part is that the infrastructure is already there mind the new parts. Should be availably quickly to boot. I have no problems using F15's as missile trucks as well as we extend our missile ranges. 1 pair f22 fighter suppression, 6 F- 35's attack - fighter suppression- jamming, 4-10 f15EX spamming targets at range while the f-35's provide targeting data. I love it!
Nice! been waiting for this video. Also cant wait to see this plane
"If IT Ain't broke.... Why fix it!!????"
F-15EX:
"Whoaaaa....****!!! Look @ ALL those WEAPONS!!!!
Enemies: "Whoaaaa....****!!! Look @ ALL those WEAPONS!!!!
Coooool! F-15ex = F-15 ramjet launch platform. Well done.
Eagles such majestic birds I'll tell ya...
Neat, almost brilliant. That this will be filling the gap fewer F35s leave was on my mind before, also that a mix with 5th-gen fighter-bombers is most powerful. Thank you. May the PLAF stay grounded!
So the F-35 goes in with the scalpel so that the F-15EX can come in with the sledgehammer? That's pretty smart.
It hinges on the idea that air defenses can be successfully knocked down in a contested airspace in a near peer conflict. Its a very idealistic strategy. There is a reason that the original plan was an all 5th gen fleet.
Would the environment also be heavily jammed? Modern warfare would probably spam the ECM or jammers like crazy.
Nice I was looking for a video on this
Glad you enjoyed it and more on the way!
I’m curious why Boeing didn’t also offer Canada the E-X, either in conjunction or as another option with the Super hornet?
My guess is that the EX wasn't available when Canada began their search and they (Boeing) doesn't want to compete with their own Super Hornet? Again just my speculation, but the EX would look great in RCAF livery...
@@PilotPhotog not to mention be a MASSIVE capability boost
Plus its more expensive than an F35 in flight hours and plane plus engine.
Yes I think the Eagle is an awesome plane and if it will help save cost then yes it should be considered as another aircraft that would be capable of being a great back-up in our acrinol.
“Let’s take a look at how an acting SECDEF who was a marketing exec for Boeing, tells the Air Force they’re getting a plane they never wanted or asked for."
Very informative commentary. Thanks from Australia ,great video. And nice editing
the F-15I : finally! a worthy opponent, out battle will be legendary!
Ra'am?
Greatly appreciate videos like this that celebrate the US Airforce proven attack aircraft designs that have been in service for many decades fulfilling the needs of numerous airforces around the globe. The F15 Eagle is like Arm & Hammer baking sofa - every few years someone discovers yet another use for it that bolsters its value proposition, continued sales, and multitude of uses.
On the flip side I think the American tax payer has been duped with the ultra high R&D costs of the F22 Raptor (Now Discontinued) and F35 Strike Force Variants.
To spend all that Dough and have ten years or less production runs at $100M plus a copy is outrageous.
Just use the f15 as a missle boat with a few f35s out front to direct the missiles boom done. (40 seconds later ahh i see this was thought of)
It still is a good plan (in my opinion as well) thanks for commenting!
@LeMao ZeBron I don't think that will work, modern SAM's will still reach the f15.
Even that far off and they don't miss.
@LeMao ZeBron you're still thinking in the past
There is simply no future for those tactics
The age of the " fighter" is over
When I look at the direction the wind is blowing the future is going to be 70-90 % unmanned , from air sea land and space.
Even the f35 has been cut short
This is a fantastic video. Really informative.
Glad you think so!
Stealth has been oversold. Stealth aircraft with an incredible cost in terms of maintenance and in a much larger cost per hour than all other airplanes is of limited utilities. Stealth merely means that an adversary near peer only has to put in more wider band radars to defeat stealth. This purchase of this aircraft shows common sense and meaningful procurement on the part of the Air Force.
Great video. Thanks for sharing!
22 missiles is enough to down every single aircraft in most countrys' air forces in one sortie!
😂😂😂😂😂
Its true though....
Unless your RCS is that of a 737. Most BVR missiles are used for posturing in the opening salvo of a BVR fight, and you want to be the one who sees first. I suspect these will be used for replacements for the F-15E in a primary strike role working in conjunction with F-35As who kick down the door for them, jam threat radars cooperatively, and empty them as bomb trucks in the force mix if they forward-deploy. It’s a head-scratcher right now though since the USAF never asked for it.
@@LRRPFco52 Yup. Spam the enemy fighter screen with missiles which should allow the our forces to mop them up as they scramble to avoid getting shot down. Granted Russian fighters also tend to carry a decent amount with decent range so he who spams first and with the most should win. Needless to say there should be plenty of losses on all sides with the quality of missiles nowadays.
@@wolfgangjr74 We already have fleets of decoy missiles for that, both surface and air-launched.
We moved away from mutual detection BVR fights to unfair unseen WEZ/NEZ profiles with F-22 & F-35, where pk increases dramatically.
The F-15EX is a backwards step in that fight that would jeopardize a huge chunk of A2A missiles if employed against threat air.
Right now it's a toss-up between Air National Guard NORAD/ADF mission in CONUS, with whispers of replacing aging Strike Eagles.
The least common denominator is keeping a Boeing production line open.
2:39 looking at the landscape there it’s cool we can do this sort of land reclamation(feel like that’s gonna be needed more in the future)
Amazing video like always! Been excited for it and loved it! Though I do have a question. Does the F-15EX incorporate thrust-vectoring? I remember reading somewhere that it does use it, but I can’t be sure of it. I mainly wondered so because on the EX’s first flight, it performed a surprisingly tight turn that didn’t look normal for an F-15 to perform. It looked like something straight from an F-22. But with TV or not, it’s still an amazing upgrade and an amazing fighter that will server phenomenally!
Right now the EX does not feature thrust vectoring - but that's not to say it won't at some point....just speculation on my part but I could see a Thrust Vectoring version as well. Thanks for commenting!
@@PilotPhotog
I think that maneuver was possible because of the 'Eagle EX' using FBW FCS. Digital flight control allows greater maneuverability because it can push the jet into rigorous flight regimes requiring extreme AoA but without over G or going into departure.
Additionally, if you have ever seen video of the incredibly fast response of the F-35's control surfaces, plus the extreme range of motion which is far greater than any previous jet, it's only logical to think that maybe Boeing made a few subtle changes to the EX, like control surfaces with the response like that of the F-35. Plus....hmmm....I wonder if maybe Boeing pulled a bit of prestidigitation & 'adjusted' the EX so that it's Center of Pressure is now slightly ahead of its Center of Gravity at airspeeds of 450 knots or less? Combined with the FBW FCS, this would produce a negative Stability F-15, which produces an aircraft that wants to turn rather than fly straight? I noticed that takeoff maneuver too; it was basically like the Raptor & F-35, take off, gear up, fly at 100 ft altitude to around 350 knots, then haul stick and immediately go straight up. I have never seen any F-15 (other than S/MTD) that could perform that maneuver. So yeah, they pulled some sorta sneaky tech move to get an Eagle to do that.
@@skyhorseprice6591 the FBW is a huge game changer - well said and thanks for commenting!
Thrust vectoring has been studied on the F-15 and more and they have not put it on any other aircraft other than the F-22. I think they have determined it’s not needed it. The technology was developed and tested on the F-15 active. It was 365 degree thrust vectoring and they chose not to use it. With the Russian fighters that have it, when they thrust vector they loose airspeed and fall. When the Indians brought thrust vectoring su-30s to red flag and fought the old F-15c’s in 1 vs 1 the eagle drivers took advantage of this and got easy kills because they were predictable and slow. Watch any airshow performance of the Russian thrust vectoring jets and you’ll see the first thing they have to do after a thrust vectoring maneuver is nose down to pick up air speed again, but if you watch any of the American planes do their maneuvers, usually they can flatten out and fly level or even climb. The US aircraft can do many of the same things as the Russian planes without thrust vectoring. Thrust vectoring looks cool in an air show and on video games, but has little use is a real life situation.
Great video
Thank you, more videos on the way. Monday’s video will be about an interview I did with an Eagle pilot who flew in Desert Storm. Stay tuned!
@@PilotPhotog will do
McDonnal Douglas: how many hardpoints you want?
Pentagon: Yes
Excellent video
I love that they have two people. There should always be two pilots IMO especialy since humans can become fatigued.
Wow...Amazing Aircraft...im so impressed....❤..I wish they did this kind of upgrades to the Retired Tomcat....
Makes me wonder if radar is winning the radar vs. stealth fight, this would explain this move.
it's not that simple. The important measure in bvr is relative detection range. Absolute range goes something like (Power* RCS)^(1/4) so to see an F-22 with 1000 times less rcs than your F-15 at equal range you also need 1000 times more power density. That's impossible.
Doubtful. It's more about the about the fact many modern foes America faces don't have sophisticated radar threats and sending in F35s against them isn't cost effective.
@@hgbugalou agreed.
Modern SAM system radar will see even stealth aircraft at a decent enough range that they'd be shot down if they try to attack the site. To be honest the stealth was never really impervious to radar in this sense. But the less powerful radars on fighters definitely won't spot a stealth plane until it's too late.
@@appa609 Power is not everything. Radar detection doesnt just depend on that! Sales men of stealth wanted everyone to belevie that. It also depends on antenna gain, processing of signals and wavelenght (very important). Altough power of radars increased it was the revolution of high gain, alternate wavelenght radars that made the change and that was made possible with ever increasing processing capacity. This eroded stealth advantage.
Sweeet! All F-15 tech through the years along with various mods and upgrades went into creating this badass plane. Along with the F-22, the U.S. rules the skies. Ownage!
You are really going to like Monday's video then. Thanks for commenting!
I mean the F-15 is an extremely capable and combat proven platform(not to mention, sexy as hell).
But it's really never been tried against an even halfway decent opponent with decent kit and training(emphasis on the word decent, not even good), so we can't really say one way or another if it's a better platform than say, the Flanker series, the Typhoon, or the Rafale, there's simply no data aside from extremely controlled and artificial military exercises.
Leaving out the other variables like logistics, pilot training/hours, and the availability of spares and munitions; it's very difficult to tease apart which platform is better than the other.
A profoundly useless and unrealistic comment, but I stand by it.
@Fred Garvin first of all the age of the fighter is over
How dare you complement grandpa f15 yet even f35 has been toned down and isn't seen as future anymore?
Love it. The F-15 has the best service record of all fighter aircraft. Its original version set several world records at the time too. Makes perfect sense to update avionics and improve efficiency, and capacity of weapons and fuel. Much like the Super Hornet improved a great design, this will probably be the best non-stealth multirole aircraft in the USAF arsenal. Hell, if they scaled the Eagle down a bit and put folding wings on it, it would probably be the best in the USN arsenal too. I can’t see them being able to fit many of these in a carrier as it is.
The "Band Aid Missile Truck" for the failed F-35.
In your own imagination
Love the f15! I'm Navy and love f14! But nowadays the f15 is really cool!
The F15 got the love that the navy never gave to the F14 ...
Wait a minute the F-15 has always had 4 pylons! I built 3 monogram 1/48 scale models back in the '80s that had a starboard outer pylon with aql-119 ECM pod(think that's what it was) and the books i had cutaways depicting them the hardpoints.
each inner wing pylon got 2 more hardpoints
Yes. There will always be a need for the F15