the Wiggler on Wiggler meta becomes even funnier when you realize that it would've been the 2nd time a character became meta just because of their hitbox. and it becomes even more funny when you realize the game would've been pay to win.
We should be sorry for the TT WR holders before wave 4. just look at 150cc Toads Turnpike WR, wave 4 made the meta switch from inside drifting wall hugging to snaking and surprise surprise they lost their world record. And the mute city world record was in track to hit 1000 days as WR but Nintendo released wave 4 1 week too early so the WR got beaten at 993 days…
big up this comment, ster had a world record on mute city lasting years, got beaten easily in a few days after the wave 4 patch though and that was indirectly caused by people moaning and crying about the meta combo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (the complaining changed nothing online and everyone plays the same combo, yoshi teddy nowadays anyway)
I never have a problem with the combo itself or the people that use it but really its just gets very boring to see everyone using the same character after a while. Of course i dont think its much of a problem now because the meta is incredibly diverse, at least character wise. Personally my favorite will always be pauline but when i do play a meta character its always peach, daisy or peachette on the city tripper.
I really like Yoshi being the meta because he's been my favourite Mario character to play in pretty much everything since Mario party 1 and he comes with 9 colour variations so there's always variation (who cares about Birdo?) But I would've loved a wild wild wiggler meta just for the memes it would sprout.
The biggest problem with this game is that the coolest looking builds are bad and goofy ahh builds are the best. What happened? Funky Flamerunner looked sick and so did my main daisy mach bike. In 7 the monster tires coupled with the b dasher were so cool. In ds rob dls and dry bomber looked awesome
Devil's advocate on the double standard point. - MK8DX puts a heavier focus on customization in casual play than MKWii ever did. One combo being overused flies in the face of that. - What FKFR and WW represent about their respective games is quite different. For Wii, it's the freedom of the game's controls and mechanics. For 8 Deluxe, it's a rigid hierarchy with little benefit to play control. One is why the game is so beloved, and the other is to detrement of the game itself. I don't agree with the mindset, but I understand why the double standard exists.
Most of the walu wiggler haters were semi-casual players, people who would tell new players to get good while also claiming the game was all rng and laughing at people for trying to actually get good at the game. My least favorite kind of player.. I used to love how angry they got when they lost to Walu Wiggler. Better times.
Honestly, I've never hated Waluigi Wiggler, simply because, well, we are talking about Waluigi, the one who is bullied and excluded for no reason, and being the meta in MK8DX made him have Justice. Fight me, Waluigi haters!
I just dont like Waluigi Also I need you to know. There are two types of people. People who like Waluigi, these are usually the ones who want him in smash and were all on board this meta. And the ones who, if we could, would pay Nintendo to delete him from all our memories. So to pretend there's a double standard of people who "want waluigi in smash but hates that he was meta" is just silly. People who didn't like him being meta also did not want him in smash.
This same thing happens with fighting games hilariously lmao People hate competition (Also as an all time Waluigi hater I’m so happy with the new meta)
I STILL USE WIGGLER ON WIGGLER IN MOGIS. I STILL USE WIGGLER TEDDY IN MOGIS. I STILL USE YOSHI ON WIGGLER IN MOGIS. WIGGLER SUPREMACY. THE BALANCE CHANGES ARE FABRICATED. WIGGLER ON TOP.
I just think it's stupid that there's any single "optimal" kart combo in any MK game, so the new meta isn't really any better. Kart combos obviously need to have stats in different areas but the stat totals should be balanced.
I agree, but I think it is still better. When Waluigi Wiggler was the meta, it was obvious that those classes of character, cart, wheel, and glider were optimal, and that was all that was used. There weren't many combos that were viable enough to compete with it. After waves 4 and 5, Yoshi Teddy was the best, but other alternatives could compete. (Tanooki Mario, Kamek, Pipe Frame, Ink Striker, etc) This allows for more diversity as other characters can be used.
it was never the only optimal combo, this game actually has a decent variety compared to some other mario kart games, yoshi teddy/waluigi wiggler were always just objectively the best combos so the higher up in skill level you go the more you'd see them, since people would of course want to be playing the best option available to them
The cool thing about the yoshi meta combo imo is that not only are there 5 different characters with the best stats (lots of diversity), but 2 of them have 9 different colors, which is great for team based lounge games! Completely agree with your takes though wiggler on wiggler would be hilarious lol
even then… the male villager class is basically the same thing as yoshi class, so that adds three more characters. then there’s the mario and luigi classes, which aren’t the same thing, but still very good… a lot of diversity in the new meta.
I feel like the problem wasn't that competitive players used the combo, it was more the fact that PUBLIC online lobbies had been filled with them, which made it easier to hate on because it's annoying seeing the same combo over and over again (in my opinion)
To “fix” the issue they should’ve just added more characters with Waluigi’s stats. Waluigi Wiggler being annoying was so stupid cause now Yoshi Teddybuggy with get annoying. Congratulations people, you fixed a problem that didn’t exist by replacing it with another problem.
At least Yoshi and birdo have different colors to choose from and i do see tons of people play peafh and daisy not only this meta opened up even more viable options Mario class Luigi class Tanooki class Rosalina class The game is such a healthy spot now tbh
Don't think I ever noticed it was widely hated, it always felt similar to mkwii with a funny character dominating. This video did make me realize I heard these negative statements quite a bit in hindsight though.
Sadly the one part of the meta that I didn't like ended up not changing aka the Rollers. I purposely don't use Rollers even if I feel like playing with the meta combo that day, currently I use GLA, no idea if that's good or bad but at least it's not the rollers
I don't really care about waluigi wiggler being so dominant however with a game that has customisable kart parts it's a bit lame to see everyone using the same stuff.
Yeah, I hate the rollers so much, they don't go well with anything Which one is better for racing? Slick wheels that have a lot of speed that are built for racing, or tiny shopping cart wheels?
Problem is the massive online community that's merged together now, and the much larger playerbase of 8DX. Back in the day of comp Wii and 7, there simply weren't enough people around to complain about Funky Flame or Metal Mario/B-Dasher/Hot Monster/Flower Glider. (not to mention Wii players are deluded by nostalgia and memes and think it's a perfect game with absolutely zero flaws, but that's a topic for another day) I guess with 7 and 8(DX), there's also the fact that multiple combos can have the exact same stats, so people "can tell you're a meta slave" for using "that one" combo. Why use Waluigi Wiggler or Yoshi Teddy, when Roy Standard Bike or Daisy Cat Cruiser can do its respective job? TL;DR: Wii cannot be criticised.
Is that Eterna Forest I hear? Excellent choice! Sometimes it's interesting to wonder if Waluigi was included in smash, and he was top tier, would there be as much hate on him in that game too?
Personally, I never hated Waluigi I was just tired of seeing 11 of the exact same combo in every single room. Absolutely no diversity. I prefer the new meta, as at least Yoshi and Birdo are equal, and you’ll still see some Luigi’s and others here and there. Plus Yoshi and Birdo have 9 different colors so it just adds to the diversity factor, which I appreciate much more than the same one combo.
Donkey Kong and Roy were also equal to Waluigi, so that just seems to have been a preference thing compared to how nowadays you also see Peach/Daisy/Birdo/Peachette and not just Yoshi.
I never understood the Waluigi Wiggler hate, I focused on speedrunning and the meta for that is the Biddybuggy more often than not so it was strange that Waluigi with Wiggler was so hated. We were not worthy of the Wiggler Wiggler meta
Back in the day I preferred DK teddy buggy for its higher mt stat. It was a bit tiring to see waluwiggler everywhere because it was hard to identify teammates. Now at least there’s more diversity with the new meta.
For me its moreso how deluxe has soooo many kart parts and characters to pick from, yet only a super small handful get played online because everyone is obsessed with having optimal builds when you can have all sorts of unique combos that are close enough and can compete. Going off the mario wiki - "In total, there are 41 vehicle bodies, 22 tires, and 15 gliders, resulting in up to 13,530 different combinations", and this is before accounting for characters. Tens of thousands of possible combos and people are obsessed with using at best a few of them. Doesnt help that the roller wheels make every combo they are in look stupid too.
As a Waluigi stan, I loved the old meta. And before people say there was no uniqueness, there was a lot more than Waluigi, people just refused to try metal mario, or wario, or DK and roy. And it was so cool because it was unique and we could see characters who rarely get the spotlight, get the spotlight. But then we got three of the most basic characters classes to the new meta, with the only unique ones being the koopalings (who no one uses) and peachette (who no one likes). Luckily there was one character class which is cool that its meta, yet no one uses it, and 2 of them were forced to join together with there counterparts and Tanooki mario is just a mario alt. While I do think the new meta feels more comfortable to drive with, it just feels far more basic and less unique then the Waluigi meta.
not the actual vehicle hitbox, moreso you can see a bit better ahead of him rather than roy/dk so it could save you from a potentially very hidden banana infront of you, he was also picked in competitive lobbies to blend in so you don't get spammed as easily especially in team formats like 2v2/3v3
TBH I would have said that Yoshi, Peach, Daisy and Birdo being meta felt less toxic... and then they made Peachette meta and everybody laughing at her for being the laziest adition ever added to a Mario Kart since pink gold peach now use that piece of mid
I just thought waluigi was ugly if people used roy, dk it would be hype After wiggler wiggler happened i was like damn I love yoshi tho :), kinda wonder why people use Yoshi specifically tho
Funky Kong Flamerunner is a cool combo for a cool character; Waluigi Wiggler is a goofy combo for a cool character. The difference isn't the character, it's the kart.
I think it's because Mario Kart Wii is not the newest Mario Kart anymore. If Mario Kart Wii was the last Mario Kart and 7 and 8 didn't exist, then Funky Flame Runner would've been hated just as much as Waluigi Wiggler.
i always hated waluigi wiggler. the hate waluigi wiggler got a very warrented, it was ugly and beyond overused. when online, even in low level lobbies, 11 waluigi wigglers wasn't uncommon, it was very tiresome and boring. The current meta is much better, simply having 9 yoshi colours, 9 birdo colours, peach, daisy and peachette all have the same meta stats so you see more variety is much more interesting and less repetitive than waluigi wiggler. funky kong flame runner is not a fair comparison as no other combination drives like it and only 2 other vehicles feel similar, MKWII is a very unbalanced game, but 8 is very balanced and a lot is viable yet people STILL refused to switch off waluigi. We're all glad he's gone.
I mean there is another reason people hated on Waluigi Wiggler way more than Funky Flame rider- it just looks dumb. Like I enjoy the cutesy vehicles in Mario kart and wild wiggler is no exception, but it just doesn’t match the colors of either roller wheels (whereas teddy buggy does perfectly) nor of waluigi, and the end result just looks sort of absurd. Is that a good enough reason for people to absolutely hate this combo and target every player using it, I definitely don’t think so, but it was a factor in the hate that is important to mention
i still remember not knowing anything about the game like 3 years ago and just going into games and seeing EVERYONE in the lobby minus me and maybe another dude using walu wiggler 😭
Honestly, Mario Kart 8 is a balanced enough game that you don't lose THAT much playing other combos so I didn't care much about the meta, I just rocked the B-dasher alone
I actually feel like Roy is the best character to play as on that weight class from the game, because using Waluigi and DK can actually cause players to get really horrible on their schoolwork and a ton of stress.
I think the bashing on the meta comes down to the fact almost anyone who uses it in a given lobby plays like their life depends on and it then boils down to the fact if you're seen running meta you're basically that one meme from toy story 2 but in the format of mario kart.
If Wiggler on the Wiggler became the meta, we could have finally had a (unmodded) 24 player mode
Indeed. It became a meta for a while tho.
we technically can have a 24 player mode, with yoshi on yoshi bike
Lol
Hyeah
And all the MKWii characters could race against each other in a Deluxe Grand Prix.
the Wiggler on Wiggler meta becomes even funnier when you realize that it would've been the 2nd time a character became meta just because of their hitbox.
and it becomes even more funny when you realize the game would've been pay to win.
Wait are the characters dlc only?
Is anybody going to tell him
Cuz I'm not
@@maxiiim8679 wiggler is a dlc character you know
@@tonyhallberg4220 i thought only the tracks are dlc. Rip
There could be 1 character in the same class as wiggler patched into the base game like how waluigi roy and dk were
We should be sorry for the TT WR holders before wave 4. just look at 150cc Toads Turnpike WR, wave 4 made the meta switch from inside drifting wall hugging to snaking and surprise surprise they lost their world record. And the mute city world record was in track to hit 1000 days as WR but Nintendo released wave 4 1 week too early so the WR got beaten at 993 days…
big up this comment, ster had a world record on mute city lasting years, got beaten easily in a few days after the wave 4 patch though and that was indirectly caused by people moaning and crying about the meta combo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(the complaining changed nothing online and everyone plays the same combo, yoshi teddy nowadays anyway)
Funky scooty could’ve been a optimal combo if their wasn’t any balance patches and amazing vid L1am
I never have a problem with the combo itself or the people that use it but really its just gets very boring to see everyone using the same character after a while.
Of course i dont think its much of a problem now because the meta is incredibly diverse, at least character wise. Personally my favorite will always be pauline but when i do play a meta character its always peach, daisy or peachette on the city tripper.
I really like Yoshi being the meta because he's been my favourite Mario character to play in pretty much everything since Mario party 1 and he comes with 9 colour variations so there's always variation (who cares about Birdo?)
But I would've loved a wild wild wiggler meta just for the memes it would sprout.
Bro, birdo its too horrible, idk who use birdo
as a birdo enjoyer i took that personally
birdo is cool
@@bowser_the_flamingshell As you should! you dirty dirty birdo enjoyer.
The biggest problem with this game is that the coolest looking builds are bad and goofy ahh builds are the best. What happened? Funky Flamerunner looked sick and so did my main daisy mach bike. In 7 the monster tires coupled with the b dasher were so cool. In ds rob dls and dry bomber looked awesome
@phantomas7455 they are ugly as hell
Devil's advocate on the double standard point.
- MK8DX puts a heavier focus on customization in casual play than MKWii ever did. One combo being overused flies in the face of that.
- What FKFR and WW represent about their respective games is quite different. For Wii, it's the freedom of the game's controls and mechanics. For 8 Deluxe, it's a rigid hierarchy with little benefit to play control. One is why the game is so beloved, and the other is to detrement of the game itself.
I don't agree with the mindset, but I understand why the double standard exists.
Justice for my boy Waluigi
at least now yoshy+teddy buggy meta looks really good but i miss waluigi wiggler
waiting for the lightweight buff
Same here.
That purple dude should be in smash
FOR REAL
@@l1ammkimagine If Wiggler on Wiggler was the meta for wave 4?
Fire video g
back in 2017, the most used glider was the plane glider
very good in depth video on the waluigi meta
Old meta was better
in my opinion yes, at least yoshi teddy buggy looks nice too
Most of the walu wiggler haters were semi-casual players, people who would tell new players to get good while also claiming the game was all rng and laughing at people for trying to actually get good at the game. My least favorite kind of player.. I used to love how angry they got when they lost to Walu Wiggler. Better times.
I can actually fix my mii like l1am Let's Go also good video!
Honestly, I've never hated Waluigi Wiggler, simply because, well, we are talking about Waluigi, the one who is bullied and excluded for no reason, and being the meta in MK8DX made him have Justice.
Fight me, Waluigi haters!
i swear im seeing him a lot again do you think hes gonna come back
I just dont like Waluigi
Also I need you to know. There are two types of people. People who like Waluigi, these are usually the ones who want him in smash and were all on board this meta.
And the ones who, if we could, would pay Nintendo to delete him from all our memories.
So to pretend there's a double standard of people who "want waluigi in smash but hates that he was meta" is just silly. People who didn't like him being meta also did not want him in smash.
This same thing happens with fighting games hilariously lmao
People hate competition
(Also as an all time Waluigi hater I’m so happy with the new meta)
Waluigi is the best character ever
no we shouldn’t.
I STILL USE WIGGLER ON WIGGLER IN MOGIS. I STILL USE WIGGLER TEDDY IN MOGIS. I STILL USE YOSHI ON WIGGLER IN MOGIS. WIGGLER SUPREMACY. THE BALANCE CHANGES ARE FABRICATED. WIGGLER ON TOP.
Wiggler on Wiggler would have been interesting as the meta but I do NOT miss waluigi wiggler. Good riddance to that eyesore of a combo.
I just think it's stupid that there's any single "optimal" kart combo in any MK game, so the new meta isn't really any better. Kart combos obviously need to have stats in different areas but the stat totals should be balanced.
I agree, but I think it is still better. When Waluigi Wiggler was the meta, it was obvious that those classes of character, cart, wheel, and glider were optimal, and that was all that was used. There weren't many combos that were viable enough to compete with it. After waves 4 and 5, Yoshi Teddy was the best, but other alternatives could compete. (Tanooki Mario, Kamek, Pipe Frame, Ink Striker, etc) This allows for more diversity as other characters can be used.
it was never the only optimal combo, this game actually has a decent variety compared to some other mario kart games, yoshi teddy/waluigi wiggler were always just objectively the best combos so the higher up in skill level you go the more you'd see them, since people would of course want to be playing the best option available to them
@@l1ammkthats true, i was on a 20k vr worldwide and yes everyone was yoshi (incluiding me)
The cool thing about the yoshi meta combo imo is that not only are there 5 different characters with the best stats (lots of diversity), but 2 of them have 9 different colors, which is great for team based lounge games! Completely agree with your takes though wiggler on wiggler would be hilarious lol
even then… the male villager class is basically the same thing as yoshi class, so that adds three more characters. then there’s the mario and luigi classes, which aren’t the same thing, but still very good… a lot of diversity in the new meta.
@@twhylermThe king boo class is also really good
And luigi and mario's class is also really good @@henkiestudios5117
I feel like the problem wasn't that competitive players used the combo, it was more the fact that PUBLIC online lobbies had been filled with them, which made it easier to hate on because it's annoying seeing the same combo over and over again (in my opinion)
Absolutely, Funky Kong being top tier in MKWii wasn’t a big problem because the online was not as public as the Waluigi Wiggler
@@Dansam04 and funky is awesome
Crazy that you point out the DK Wiggler guy in 2018 but missed me using that exact combo in the 2017 Finals (I was obv a visionary)😶🌫
But Liam, at least now we can play Yoshi on the Yoshi Bike. That's pretty funny too.
sadly inside drift
To “fix” the issue they should’ve just added more characters with Waluigi’s stats. Waluigi Wiggler being annoying was so stupid cause now Yoshi Teddybuggy with get annoying. Congratulations people, you fixed a problem that didn’t exist by replacing it with another problem.
At least Yoshi and birdo have different colors to choose from and i do see tons of people play peafh and daisy not only this meta opened up even more viable options
Mario class
Luigi class
Tanooki class
Rosalina class
The game is such a healthy spot now tbh
Don't think I ever noticed it was widely hated, it always felt similar to mkwii with a funny character dominating. This video did make me realize I heard these negative statements quite a bit in hindsight though.
Sadly the one part of the meta that I didn't like ended up not changing aka the Rollers.
I purposely don't use Rollers even if I feel like playing with the meta combo that day, currently I use GLA, no idea if that's good or bad but at least it's not the rollers
I don't really care about waluigi wiggler being so dominant however with a game that has customisable kart parts it's a bit lame to see everyone using the same stuff.
My one issue with MK8s balancing is that the best wheels are the clown shoes for go karts.
Yeah, I hate the rollers so much, they don't go well with anything
Which one is better for racing? Slick wheels that have a lot of speed that are built for racing, or tiny shopping cart wheels?
Problem is the massive online community that's merged together now, and the much larger playerbase of 8DX. Back in the day of comp Wii and 7, there simply weren't enough people around to complain about Funky Flame or Metal Mario/B-Dasher/Hot Monster/Flower Glider.
(not to mention Wii players are deluded by nostalgia and memes and think it's a perfect game with absolutely zero flaws, but that's a topic for another day)
I guess with 7 and 8(DX), there's also the fact that multiple combos can have the exact same stats, so people "can tell you're a meta slave" for using "that one" combo. Why use Waluigi Wiggler or Yoshi Teddy, when Roy Standard Bike or Daisy Cat Cruiser can do its respective job?
TL;DR: Wii cannot be criticised.
Is that Eterna Forest I hear? Excellent choice! Sometimes it's interesting to wonder if Waluigi was included in smash, and he was top tier, would there be as much hate on him in that game too?
Personally, I never hated Waluigi I was just tired of seeing 11 of the exact same combo in every single room. Absolutely no diversity. I prefer the new meta, as at least Yoshi and Birdo are equal, and you’ll still see some Luigi’s and others here and there. Plus Yoshi and Birdo have 9 different colors so it just adds to the diversity factor, which I appreciate much more than the same one combo.
Donkey Kong and Roy were also equal to Waluigi, so that just seems to have been a preference thing compared to how nowadays you also see Peach/Daisy/Birdo/Peachette and not just Yoshi.
@@bluess1508 Waluigi is really skinny so you could see a tad bit more, no idea if it did anything to help but competitive players thought it did
I never understood the Waluigi Wiggler hate, I focused on speedrunning and the meta for that is the Biddybuggy more often than not so it was strange that Waluigi with Wiggler was so hated.
We were not worthy of the Wiggler Wiggler meta
None of this matters because toad circuit is the best track in the game
wait you've got a point
i feel like hating on any combo on mario kart is just weird, it aint that deep let people enjoy themselves.
Wiggler Wiggler is still my combo just because the game is so balanced now and it's fun. He turns red when he's angry.
honestly if people had used the superior mario character donkey kong instead, the wave 4 meta shift would have never been upon us
Back in the day I preferred DK teddy buggy for its higher mt stat. It was a bit tiring to see waluwiggler everywhere because it was hard to identify teammates. Now at least there’s more diversity with the new meta.
Dry Bones BiddyBuggy. You can't top this.
Wiggler Wednesday wss yesterday, you was a bit late
For me its moreso how deluxe has soooo many kart parts and characters to pick from, yet only a super small handful get played online because everyone is obsessed with having optimal builds when you can have all sorts of unique combos that are close enough and can compete.
Going off the mario wiki - "In total, there are 41 vehicle bodies, 22 tires, and 15 gliders, resulting in up to 13,530 different combinations", and this is before accounting for characters. Tens of thousands of possible combos and people are obsessed with using at best a few of them. Doesnt help that the roller wheels make every combo they are in look stupid too.
As a Waluigi stan, I loved the old meta. And before people say there was no uniqueness, there was a lot more than Waluigi, people just refused to try metal mario, or wario, or DK and roy. And it was so cool because it was unique and we could see characters who rarely get the spotlight, get the spotlight. But then we got three of the most basic characters classes to the new meta, with the only unique ones being the koopalings (who no one uses) and peachette (who no one likes). Luckily there was one character class which is cool that its meta, yet no one uses it, and 2 of them were forced to join together with there counterparts and Tanooki mario is just a mario alt.
While I do think the new meta feels more comfortable to drive with, it just feels far more basic and less unique then the Waluigi meta.
Waluigi hitbox is also the smallest out of the heavies, if you count out dlc
not the actual vehicle hitbox, moreso you can see a bit better ahead of him rather than roy/dk so it could save you from a potentially very hidden banana infront of you, he was also picked in competitive lobbies to blend in so you don't get spammed as easily especially in team formats like 2v2/3v3
TBH I would have said that Yoshi, Peach, Daisy and Birdo being meta felt less toxic... and then they made Peachette meta and everybody laughing at her for being the laziest adition ever added to a Mario Kart since pink gold peach now use that piece of mid
I just thought waluigi was ugly if people used roy, dk it would be hype
After wiggler wiggler happened i was like damn
I love yoshi tho :), kinda wonder why people use Yoshi specifically tho
Funky Kong Flamerunner is a cool combo for a cool character; Waluigi Wiggler is a goofy combo for a cool character. The difference isn't the character, it's the kart.
I think it's because Mario Kart Wii is not the newest Mario Kart anymore. If Mario Kart Wii was the last Mario Kart and 7 and 8 didn't exist, then Funky Flame Runner would've been hated just as much as Waluigi Wiggler.
i always hated waluigi wiggler. the hate waluigi wiggler got a very warrented, it was ugly and beyond overused.
when online, even in low level lobbies, 11 waluigi wigglers wasn't uncommon, it was very tiresome and boring.
The current meta is much better, simply having 9 yoshi colours, 9 birdo colours, peach, daisy and peachette all have the same meta stats so you see more variety is much more interesting and less repetitive than waluigi wiggler.
funky kong flame runner is not a fair comparison as no other combination drives like it and only 2 other vehicles feel similar, MKWII is a very unbalanced game, but 8 is very balanced and a lot is viable yet people STILL refused to switch off waluigi. We're all glad he's gone.
I mean there is another reason people hated on Waluigi Wiggler way more than Funky Flame rider- it just looks dumb. Like I enjoy the cutesy vehicles in Mario kart and wild wiggler is no exception, but it just doesn’t match the colors of either roller wheels (whereas teddy buggy does perfectly) nor of waluigi, and the end result just looks sort of absurd. Is that a good enough reason for people to absolutely hate this combo and target every player using it, I definitely don’t think so, but it was a factor in the hate that is important to mention
It was the mk8dx equivalent to Funky FlameRunner
tfw if not for the Wave 4 Balance Patch the meta for this game would be Wiggler Wiggler and Funky Kong Scooty.
As a former wiggler main,I want wiggler wiggler meta
I used waluigi wiggler before he was meta and still use him now hes not meta
I think the double standard has to do with the fact Funky Kong looks cool on the Flame Runner while Waluigi looks awkward on the Wild Wiggler.
I always did run Waluigi on City Tripper or Varmint
wiggler representation!!!!
I agree, Waluigi Wiggler meta wasn't an issue, and was massively overhated. Plus, Wiggler Wiggler meta being the meta would've been funny to see.
i still remember not knowing anything about the game like 3 years ago and just going into games and seeing EVERYONE in the lobby minus me and maybe another dude using walu wiggler 😭
Honestly, Mario Kart 8 is a balanced enough game that you don't lose THAT much playing other combos so I didn't care much about the meta, I just rocked the B-dasher alone
I actually feel like Roy is the best character to play as on that weight class from the game, because using Waluigi and DK can actually cause players to get really horrible on their schoolwork and a ton of stress.
Wa wiggler is still perfectly usable it's just not the best
I think the bashing on the meta comes down to the fact almost anyone who uses it in a given lobby plays like their life depends on and it then boils down to the fact if you're seen running meta you're basically that one meme from toy story 2 but in the format of mario kart.
For being honest peachette and birdo are the most horrible characters of all mario kart history
Pink Gold Peach:
I REGRET DISRESPECTING THIS COMBO 😭😭😭
No
I'm still so glad wave 4 happened
Waluigi wiggluh
❤
I love waluigi in mk8 and in general. I just ababsolutely HATE the wiggler, but not the people who used it