Don't come for me, but it feels similar to people who's hobby is shopping. Not shopping for their hobbies, but shopping because wasting money IS the hobby. While also mocking anyone who dares like anything "abnormal" (and abnormal is just liking toy collectibles or whatever).
@@Cobalt985 Oh man, furries. You guys are the perfect example. Absolute cringe in the social sense, but whenever I see furries in public, there's a real sense of fun, of joy. Now that I'm getting older, furries stopped being cringe for me and seeing people have such passion and fun actually brings me a bit of happiness, even though I'm not involved.
"I may be cringe but you're mean and that's worse" is a phrase I will forever think about because it's just. such a good comeback and also just. a good point
"What are your hobbies? I dunno, texting?" is making me so sad. My hobbies (video games, art and static website creation) have brought me so much joy. It just seems like such an empty existence to imagine life without something to care about that much.
I would technically survive if tomorrow all books, anything to do with writing books, and video games disappeared, but I would be miserable for the rest of my life and not even my loved ones would be able to fill the massive hole the disappearances left in my heart.
See that's the thing. You're probably having a more complex cognitive experience that that person. I truly believe that people without hobbies just exist on a lower rung of the ladder of conscious, sentient thought. Their brains are just lesser.
What really gets me is how PROUD that person sounds about not having a real hobby, it kinda made my skin crawl. I still think Idiocracy is a terrible film with themes of eugenics and anyone who says it was a documentary has the absolute wrong idea, but I will say that movie portrayed a certain contempt for passion and disdain for any amount of effort into happiness from people that unfortunately I think is happening.
I feel like the whole cringe thing stemmed from people generally being jealous of others so they bully those who are enjoying themselves to feel better about themselves
Oh absolutely that girl gave me mean popular girl energy. Like I feel like she would have been the kinda person who made fun of me for being into performing arts/being a theatre kid cause they're too cool.
I still think ogling anime waifus is cringe, and I'm not jealous of the young 20-somethings who continue to do that. Anime is fine. Rampant underage "fan service", not so much.
no, secrecy is rising but you can be sincere even if others aren't, if you do you may be shunned for it but its more likely you won't be shunned for long, *so be sincere!*
@@deethwarrior Oh, I'm advocating for more sincerity in general, that wasn't supposed to be pessimistic. This is a really odd subject for me to tackle rn because im stoned as fuck, so if this makes no sense im so sorry. Also, I'm like extremely isolated now for reasons I don't feel comfy explaining rn can you like possibly try and validate what I'm saying right now god I'm sorry this is super fucking low
Girl this is so true. I recently redownloaded Tumblr and was taken aback at how openly people talked about writing fan fiction and I felt BETTER than them. Then overtime I realized these people were spending time and energy writing this beautiful prose while all I was doing was rotting in bed judging them 😭 getting a hobby is so vulnerable now and that’s why me and so many others are too afraid to pursue one 😵💫
Honestly, as someone who mainly uses tumblr as social media, this video was really surreal. Like what do you mean liking stuff is weird? I’ve spent the last several years just like, chilling and making cringe art.
People keep associating tumblr with mental illness and general toxicity, which admittedly is true, but tumblr is also amazing because of this! People just do whatever the hell they like on that site and no one judges. I found people who have a list of neopronouns are the most random fictional crushes, the most random thoughts, most random hobbies and... it's normal there. Whereas anywhere else people just judge. Yes there's a lot of weirdos and that can have horrible results, but it can also have amazing results?? Lately I had a fallout with a friend group, and when I recovered from the heartbreak, I started wanting to look for friends, but I had no idea where. So I will try out tumblr. That place is full of colorful outcasts, and I think I will find like minded people there
THISSSS IS SO REALLL my freshmen year in college I took a beginners level crafting class and was the only person with a background and genuine interest in art so I’d take my time with our assignments. Whenever we’d present the other students in the class would roll their eyes and sign when my work came up and nobody wanted to talk to me during our free work time and it was so isolating. At the end, the professor wanted to include my final project in a showcase for all the art classes and I was hesitant but I said ok as long as she doesn’t put my name and left it anonymous. I didn’t even go to see my work being displayed or ever claim it back after the showcase. I had built up so much shame around something I once genuinely enjoyed because of others opinions and it kept me from so much.
shame is gonna ruin so many young people, they see themselves through the eyes of others and they are terrified of being perceived in a negative way. Life isn’t about experiences anymore but an endless need to perform for others. It’s sad
that’s why i’m an advocate for self expression and self autonomy. it’s good to know that people’s actions are reflections of themselves, so it’s also best to take nothing personally. performing for yourself instead of others is liberating and with how connected our world is there are always going to be others who support you for who you are
Yeah, this tracks. I have a pretty niche hobby (great lakes maritime history) and I used to be extremely energized and outwardly passionate about it. And then I started getting called the "boat fucker" because I talked about it a lot, so people accused me of being sexually attracted to freighters. That killed my passion pretty quick. This was freshman year, i'm in my senior year now, and while this is still my biggest hobby and I love it, and i'm getting involved with communities and publications that focus around this subject, I have a very complicated relationship with my passion because I feel ashamed of it for sharing it at all, and I feel that I shouldn't participate, so I don't and I drift away. But I love great lakes history, so I hate this cycle. Thank you for the video!
I live on one of the Great Lakes and the history surrounding these amazing places is a good hobby to get into. You're smarter and have more of a personality than all the people who mocked you put together.
This is such a unique hobby, I agree it makes you a very interesting person. Keep doing the things you love and you will find others like you eventually
I was once told - by a girlfriend no less - that everything I like would be cool if I was 6 or 60. Well, I only have 13 years to go before I'm allowed to f*cking well like what I like 😆
I'm reminded of the toxic worldview that I think the last generation (or maybe a generation or two before them?) commonly held, that was like: "if your hobby can't be monetized, or you aren't working towards forming a business around it, it's a waste of time" Only now, it's become internalized generational trauma, manifesting as disapproval for anyone having any interest, that isn't for career or education reasons, I guess? btw I also love Sophie Hunter, good ref, good vid, good fox too
I remember once when I mentioned that I played guitar, my friend’s mom (in her early 60s and very conservative), we got to talking about different guitars and she asked if I had any pictures of my guitar collection. I proudly showed her all 3 of my guitars lol and the first thing she said was “are you making any money off this? Time to get some gigs so those guitars pay for themselves”. It was toxic and very invalidating because at that point I didn’t gig and just did it for fun. There is some generational trauma involving shame for having a childlike enjoyment and amusement by a hobby, capitalism has also invaded so everything must be monetized and you have to become the best and compete with others rather than enjoy something for the sake of it
AAAAAAAA SO MUCH THIS. You can’t just make knives for fun, you *have* to be doing it as a one-man business. Can’t just make silly little tunes for friends, you gotta be an artist with published stuff.
@@alandennis3853Nah man, I like to expose people for asking stupid questions like this. If people start to question your guitar collection, double down. Because by that logic, having garden flowers to care for is equally pointless and non-profitable.
@@alandennis3853 i hate that, it's a poor persons mindset. if you arent so poor that you are starving or freezing to death then go for whatever expensive hobby you want better to literally burn dollar bills for fun than to be miserable and burnt out
Honestly, as an autistic man, having a special interests, aka being passionate about a hobby more than it is considered "normal" is a big part of the diagnosis. A lot of cringe culture is rooted in ableism and making fun of neurodivergent people for being "weird" due to something we were born with. That's why I'm so thankful that now, as an adult, I can let go of my bullied kid years in highschool and actually find people like me who enjoy listening to me ramble about the things I enjoy and I can listen to them do the same in turn. I genuinely love meeting new people who are passionate about the things that are important to them. I'm even dating this really cool punk girl who's going to art school that I deeply admire for being so blatantly and unashamedly herself. She's one of the most chill, understanding and fun people to be around I've had the pleasure of meeting so far. And she said that the thing she likes about me the most is that I'm so open and genuine about the way I am, my opinions and the thigns I enjoy, and that's honestly one of the nicest things anyone's said to me, cause that also means she genuinely likes the way I am and I'm free to express myself around her. It's nice to have people I can unmask around, knowing that they like my autistic self more than the mask I often have to show the world in order to protect myself
@embe_r I'm sure you'll get there, eventually. Being a teen was a miserable experience for me so I hope you get the support you need soon enough. A tip for meeting new and different people that's worked for me is going to places where they partake in your interests, like lessons, conventions, hangouts and stuff like that, which is easier as an adult since you don't need your family's permission, but it can be done as a teen as well. It also helps to just get the courage to approach anyone you find interesting or cool, which takes practice if you're as anxious as I am but it opens up so many opportunities for new friends. I actually met my first bf at a small anime convention in my town when I was like 15 and he was the first person who liked how weird I was and let me be myself
I know this sounds stupid but I feel like I have autism? I mean I only realized the possibility after my SPHE teacher was talking about Alan Turing being on the spectrum but I suppose it makes sense everything stresses me out and socializing is harder compared to me and other people. I don't know how to move forward I literally took tests online after school on that day and for some reason they said I probably have autism I don't know if even getting a diagnosis will make my life easier or will I just realize I am dramatic not autistic I feel embarrassed even looking up the signs and taking tests but my parents think it's waste to a test and I don't. I'm confused.
@@aaronsk8s-h8udon't self-diagnose, don't really trust online tests either. But yes, go and see a professional about it. It doesn't even matter if you will be considered on the spectrum or not, you will learn something about yourself.
I feel like the Disney adult video from Kurtis kinda veered into how people worship a billion dollar corporation and deify the man who founded it instead of appreciating the artists behind it.
there's so much valid criticism to be made about disney as a whole but "disney adult" snark content is usually just barely concealed misogyny (and probably ableism, a LOT of neurodivergent people have stuff like disney theme parks as a hyperfixation/special interest)
@@cjboyo I think part of the reason we see Disney Adults as particularly bad is because of the overlap of Disney Adult and (Possibly Religious/Conservative) White People
i watched that video only once and there were a few good points in there but sometimes i do feel like people only bring up the good points against liking disney (and other things, like anime or japanese things) just to punch you down into not liking it. you can absolutely be a disney adult or a form of one and still be very critical and engage w disney (and anime, etc) material. i hate when people talk about, for example, how kpop idols are racist, homophobic, misogynistic, etc. or saying how the kpop industry is exploitative, bc i know they are just saying that to show how their interests are so much superior than yours but not actually. its diff in kpop bc most kpop fans are hyper aware of the dark sides of the industry but i feel like a lot of disney fans are aware of disney's horrible history and current politics. not all, but enough for people to not lump the entire community into one stereotype of purposefully naive nostalgia driven consumers.
Reminds me of the 90s, the era of grunge and irony, where showing any enthusiasm was so uncool. I feel like Millennials saved us from this with their cheerful, earnest culture but now we're heading back in that sad direction!
I am 40 years old. I was a Mall Goth. I liked smutty fantasy starting with dragonriders of Pern. Reading fantasty was not "cool" when I was young, it was a hide your books kind of thing. Make 'em cringe. You will not regret it when you are old. You WILL regret all the phases you went through trying to "fit in" or as you kids call it "be socially acceptable". I applaud your tufting skill, your costumes, your kpop dance.
This culture so strongly bashes anyone who doesn’t conform, and it’s fucked. I thought culture had improved after those 90s talk shows that just mocked alt kids for thirty minutes straight, but it’s still here, just more subtle. As someone who prefers straight-up honesty, that makes the sly little comments even more infuriating to deal with. Oh my god, and “yapping”? I watched a video essay once, and someone had commented a really well-thought out paragraph about the topic. And some wacko just replies, “im not reading all that yapping”. Ok? Then don’t read it. Don’t blame other people for your laziness. I cannot stress just how much I detest the “it’s not that deep” mentality. It is that deep. It’s always that deep, bro. Life isn’t a shallow puddle to step in, it’s a vast and ineffable ocean. Finally: the “crab in a bucket” analogy is so good. There were quite a few years where I let the other crabs pull me all the way to the bottom of a bucket and step on me. I don’t do that anymore because, quite simply: the bottom of the bucket is boring as hell. Thanks for the video, great stuff. Also, Monster High rules 👹👹
yeah it’s good to prioritize self expression and self autonomy, as someone who’s always been anti-conformist, it’s best for people to be open about their individuality no matter what. people’s actions are projections of themselves so it’s best to let asshat lazy ppl do their own thing and solely focus on those who’d listen to you. as for the crabs in the bucket saying yeah i relate with you on that, choosing to prioritize my well-being was the best choice i’ve made
oh my gooood I absolutely hate the "it's not that deep" mindset too. You don't like to think too hard about things, ok, but don't group the rest of us with you. For some of us, looking deep into things is not tiring but actually the way we enjoy stuff a lot of the time!
I’m in highschool right now, I FEEL THIS SO BADDD!! I’ve been made fun of the fact I want to learn new stuff and I’m like, how the hell do you think people get good at something?
@@Sneha-kd6lq keep being you even if it makes you anxious. the people that like you and matter will not care. it gets easier to care less through time.
10:02 "Get a hobby, nerd out over something, make a cosplay, do the dance, leave the bucket." That's an amazing quote and I'm adding it to my quote book!!
The new ways social media fucks up younger generations never cease to surprise me. Hobbys that cant be monetized online (or that you wont monetize bc you do it just for fun) are treated as a waste of time.
This was hard to watch as someone who’s basically been one of those bullies. I don’t have any distinct memories of decrying someone for niche interests verbally but I’ve always felt jealous of people who honed any sort of skill or craft since I was too sloppy and addicted to bother caring. I truly believed having extracurriculars and doing anything to avoid sucking up to adults was futile. Honestly, I’ve only realized this because it’s finally backfired on me. I don’t know how long it’ll take to stop feeling so bitter over the opportunities for friendship I’ve wasted.
These things wouldn't be so pervasive if they weren't so normalised. I think it's important to recognise your role, but don't take on all the responsibility for yourself. You were raised in a culture which trains you to act this way, we all were, and I don't think anybody can entirely exempt themselves. The important thing is that you have the self awareness now to do better in the future. That's the first, often the hardest, step.
I've been getting into clowns lately. Trying to learn how to juggle. Bought cheap juggling balls, then found more premium ones. Buying custom clown clothes off Etsy. Have bought multiple clown horns, lost one in the forest. Got a slide whistle. I don't know how or why but by god it means something.
social media users may call you a clown, but what if you actually are a real clown? what then? "oh you're a normal person haha loser" ??? lmao you're immune!
Im definitely glad this is being pointed out. As an autistic person, ive never been able to hide my "cringe". Even through the regular masking, my hyperfixations and obsessions always peeked through. Its only now that im realizing its okay to like what i like and be cringe about it. I just hate that it came during a time where cringe culture is peeking its little head up. Cringe culture is only punching down. Its almost always aimed at autistic people and lgbtq people and POC. Im so happy that theres people on the main sides of the internet talking about this.
I relate so much to this. Some people will *love* it when you’re a little weird, but as soon as you’re “too weird” you’re kicked to the curb. I’ve always been an earnest and unconventional person. I also don’t do social things that don’t make sense to me (e.g. saying “how are you?” but not actually caring how you are). As a result, most people I tried to befriend in my preteen/early teen years straight-up did not like me. I was apparently “immature and childish” for… smiling a lot, laughing at the teachers’ jokes, and openly enjoying my hobbies??? Their loss. It’s insane that there are so many people who have been outcast like me, just for enjoying their life. On the bright side, that means us outcasts can join together for the *_ULTIMATE FRIENDSHIP_* (dun dun dunnnn).
@@chellivision not autistic, but real. I used to be so sociable and outgoing as a child, but then I got made fun for just being happy in middle school and now I genuinely loathe talking to people to the point I feel pain from being too overwhelmed :P
yeah I get it. I ditched a long time friend because as soon as she started to work she become this Ebenezer Scrooge type of person who won't tolerate anything too extraordinary to be mundane. My special interest is the gothic, campy vampires, costume design and such. She really made me feel ashamed for being a spoonful too passionate about what I do in my free time. We broke up on valentine's day this year, I haven't heard of her ever since. My mental health has never been so good and I found new friends to talk to
From my experience it’s cringe to have an interest in anything that isn’t acceptable (being boring I guess) or having an intense interest and really enjoy it (*cough* common in neurodivergent people who are basically automatically hated by neurotypical people *cough*)
that part. there’s only a few “acceptable hobbies” that NT have deemed as ok for adults to have. but don’t you dare get too passionate about them because it’s “childish and cringe” 🙄 idk what happened to our world and why people over the age of 15 are expected to behave like soulless husks. i saw a post on reddit a while back where this person shared a photo of their work desk. it was filled with drawings, art, anime stuff, some figurines, etc. just very fun and cool. at first the feedback was positive, but after a while they started receiving so much hate. people were so rude and saying absolutely horrible things to that person. they ended up having to delete the post because they received so much hate over simply having decorations on their desk. i also received a ton of hate for trying to defend them. so weird and sad
yupp the "overzealous passion" i described is almost always a neurodivergent special interest or neurotypical people scared of being grouped in with them 😭
I feel like America Psycho called this out, even if the director and author weren’t thinking of it that exact way. Look at scenes like the business card scene. Take note of the vapid things Patrick Bateman and his coworkers obsess over.
Honestly this has kind of always been a thing, it's why the internet even got popular in the first place, cus it was a haven for outcasts to "meet" and discuss their interests. Nowadays it's essentially become a digital town square and everyone is now here, even those who still judge others for their interests
felt this as a person with ADHD, having to constantly underplay my interests and hyperfixations can be so exhausting, but i’ve just decided to try and stop caring! plus i’ve found some really awesome friends who don’t make me feel bad for liking the things i like more than a “normal” amount
i hate that hobbies and personal interests are being turned into performance art for social approval. i want to do those things for my own fulfillment, not for someone else's approval. so what if i find someone else's interests embarrassing? that's a me problem. why should they care what i think, if i don't get their interests? and how dare i try and shame them into caring what i think.
watching social commentary videos is so insane as an autistic person. the more i hear allistic people describe how they experience the world the more i wonder how people keep themselves going. avoiding things i enjoy is something i only do when i'm in a horrible place mentally, so from my perspective this really feels like a culture of genuine self-hatred. everyone is acting like i did when i was an emo middle schooler with negative self esteem and they're trying to act like that's cool. you are not cool for emotionally regressing. to be cringe is to be free
right, like how can you stand living like this? how can you stand having no true joy in your life? or connections? whats the point, success? approval? its so sad
real, like I can lie about my interests to strangers all day, awkwardly saying "yeah I like hiphop... rnb... but from the east, kind of...", but I can't imagine actually giving up the NCT hyperfixation I've had for two and a half years just for some people's approval and percieved masculinity. I'd be miserable! lol (also I literally got made fun of by some girls on halloween for having a halloween costume. like wtf.)
Not going to lie as an autistic person I feel you. What do you mean you don’t want to love something so much you squeal and jump in joy at the thought of it? What do you mean you want to stop liking things just so others can like you and be this boring bland soup of humans
dude its so annoying whenever i like something and am ridiculed for it, then a while later its all over social media and is trendy now... like.. WHAT??
Yeah, so, actual comment now, I'm having this exact problem but like with my core friend group, it is so weird because it wasn't like this before and and yeah, none of my co-workers are "nerding out" about anything or having any personality or this culture of calling anyone who is openly talking about anything a yapper. This emotionless sarcasm and a need for irony everywhere is so annoying. When did we stop being humans? I've been finding myself talking about things that are important to me and then a friend, a really good friend, just starts like trying to tell me to talk less because it's "too much words" and i need to stop yapping. It is so sad that we live in an age where we can't express ourselves these days. Really sad to have to isolate and only communicate with certain people because there is no one else that is "normal" anymore... This is a very annoying subject to me. Sorry for posting a wall of text but this is such an important topic
ahhh you're making me want to make a part 2... I absolutely hate how everything has to be covered in a thick layer of irony or nonchalance-- like everything has to be a joke or "not that serious"
To be cringe is to be free To be edgy is to live authentically But tbh as a furry I'm probably in an echo chamber outside of the metaphorical bucket especially since alot of the non-furry creators I follow are need and Fandom related in some way so I genuinely did not know my own generation was reviving cringe culture like why??? But yeah, be cringe and be free. Be exciting and weird. Do what Sonic the Hedgehog would do! Do you think Sonic would go around bullying people for having fun? I don't think so! That's no good! Also, as someone who does art and music and coding and writing all at once I would like to nominate myself as the CEO King of Doing too much... Or maybe... I'm not doing enough...
nah u are doing it right. i have furry friends too and they are very happy living their little niche life. theres nothing wrong with not fitting in :) none of us really 'fit in' anyways!@
You are living the dream! I'm spiritual fictionkin along with my husband, and it's similar in Doing Too Much: Tarot, astrology, magickal herbalism, baking, sewing, interior design, crochet, drawing, singing...thinking about compiling a cookbook (a 1950s vintage take on Marvel inspired recipes). I wish you the very best in all your endeavors!
Yesterday in my English class I made an argument about a satire piece we read and the rest of the comments were just people rephrasing the things I already said, agreeing with me, but I still got eye rolls when I made the argument. I think their issue was genuinely that I not only took the time to do the reading but also that I thought about it. This is university. Everyone in the room not only chose to be there but also had to pay to be there. Apparently it’s cringe to participate in the education you’re probably going into debt for? I mean I’m going to get my money’s worth if it costs me a social life so I’m not letting it get to me but I wasn’t expecting that this sort of thing would follow me into university. Also autism I might be getting mocked for more than just caring but I do genuinely think it’s largely for caring. Outside of classes my actual friends are pretty much universally autistic/ADHD so sometimes it’s kind of a jump scare that neurotypicals are out there pretending life’s better if you act like nothing matters. To go from enjoying your best bud’s fourty minute ramble about historical filmmaking technology to having someone give an "oh. okay" when you slide in a relevant fun fact then start making mean comments about someone who isn’t im the room is wild.
Like how a young dog will yap endlessly. Of course, to the human ear, it's yapping is meaningless and needlessly shrill. Just another way of saying what someone is talking about is useless to you and has no real value. Is somewhat irrelevant. It's Wild how this obviously demeaning phase is being used so casually by gen z 😬 Like being rude is the default now. If I commented this on Instagram, I'd no doubt get an immediate." Nobody's reading all that💀"
I don't think it was one person saying it that made it pop off tho. Like with demure. I genuinely think it's just another common phrase you can add in to any sentence to be disparaging so it had an uptick just because it's so social okay now to be self-deprecating and talk mean. Online anyways
Yapping is an old word used from around the 1940s. It's just one of those words that's popped back in popularity, along with things like "sus" and "snack".
for me, i use the 'yappinator' label PROUDLY, and so do my friends. we are yappers and we are proud. i agree a lot with this video, people are afraid to interact deeply with art or hobbies.
the only time yapping actually bothers me is when people are drawing out small talk as an excuse to continue the conversation when they said goodbye 30 minutes ago, otherwise known as the midwestern goodbye and even that is preferable to interacting with people that have 0 hobbies
@@mintykiwi exactly! only speak when you have something to say, but even if its just random unnessecary small talk its better than someone who's entirely boring.
As an aging millenial, this is the first time something has got into my recommendeds where I can fully feel it being aimed at the generation after me. "Doing too much" was not in the lingo when I was growing up, and it made me think back on what it was like being a teenager a little over a decade ago. I was in school right on the tipping point of "nerd culture" going mainstream, right as the MCU was starting up and gaming was becoming the totally normal thing that all teenage boys did. The way I got by back then, the way I get by now, and how I would advise young folks to get by now, is to really not give a shit what other people think of you. It's a vital survival skill that stops you from wasting all your life being nobody. I've since found out I'm neurodivergent and not caring about stranger's opinions of me comes much easier than it does for most people, but I really can't recommend it enough. Don't let how people are gonna look at you on the street stop you from dressing and styling yourself in the way that makes you happy. You're never gonna see them again and they don't matter. Don't let random dipshits on the internet stop you from making things that bring you joy and showing them to people. What have they ever done for you that you're doing them the favour of listening to them whine? I could go on, but I've already spent a lot of words to basically thumbs up what this video was already saying. Do what makes you happy and fuck em if they don't like it.
its very refreshing how slow paced you take your videos, especially for a commentary channel it feels like theyre so often packed with music and jokes and quick paced coments and it just makes it so unbearable to listen to now like i can feel my attention span wittling away with stuff like that and with yours it just felt peaceful and geniunely inciteful
In school I was bullied and avoided for being the weird kid. I even had someone tell me I gave "school shooter" vibes once just because I barely talked to anyone. In college my friends tell me that they love me for being one of the most genuine, soulful people around. Please be yourself, for the love of god. Don't be afraid to stand out.
Yeah it's both a blessing and a curse that high school mixes in people from all walks of life, makes it pure rng with decent chances of being seen as weird, getting into a college and degree fit for one's nature makes it much easier to find like-minded individuals
i think a big issue is that a lot of kids are not pushed to develop a personality or hobbies. they're left alone with an ipad/iphone to raise them. of course if your eyes are glued to a screen 24-7 you won't be able to develop any personality. kids need to be put into activities and clubs, sent to volunteer, gifted craft kits so they can learn new skills.
I was pushed into that stuff and still ended up kinda bland and generic bc I just wanted to go back to playing video games or watching youtube :P never really found any hobbies that didn’t just feel like a chore to me (Though I do keep meaning to try getting into board games or ttrpgs maybe? I’m kinda too shy and socially anxious though and I feel like I wouldn’t have the patience for them… idk)
What you described as "chill" and "detached" is just apathy. "Its not that serious," "caring/passion is cringe" "humbling each other" that's all apathy mixed with ego tripping/power dynamics. Apathy is uncool, sad and pathetic. Passion is what will save us, killing our hearts is what will destroy us. My passion is impenetrable, no one will be able to dissuade me from it, because my passion is my love, my authenticity, my personhood. I would never forsake that.
@@dayton9136 Being "chill" and being apathetic are two VERY different things. What they're saying here is that these people who are trying to portray themselves as "chill" are not actually chill, but apathetic. Which is a dangerous thing to be, for yourself and for people around you. "Chill" is being used by some people to describe a very sad, bitter, and mentally unwell state of being. Because to admit it's sad is not ~cool and ironic~ enough, it's too sincere and vulnerable- and they want to shy away from it. So they call it "being chill" Like lol, what part of these "chill" people ragging on the existence of hobbies ACTUALLY looks chill to you? Of course there's nothing wrong with being chill if that's really what it is. (not to mention hobbies can be extremely chill??)
as a teenager rn i see it as a genuine dislike for ppl enjoying themselves. some of the hobbies i have have been literal years of honing my skill. it’s so disheartening that some ppl really think it’s cool to spread rhetoric that makes ppl like me feel ashamed abt their interests. for the longest time i wouldn’t actually talk to ppl abt my hobbies bc i was scared of being judged or i guess rejected. all of my interests are personal to me and ppl are missing that the point of a hobby is to engage with something on a deeper level. it all comes back to a lack of enjoyment and happiness for life . everyone is so busy worrying abt what “cool” thing is trending they forget to be a genuine human being. TL;DR ppl are sad so they project onto ppl enjoying themselves edit: to anyone who’s curious abt my hobbies: i can play clarinet, saxophone, ukulele guitar and bass guitar (i am a bit rusty on some of these.) i also draw, crochet and read whenever i have time. when i was smaller, i mainly was an artsy well-read kid, which ppl my age weren’t as interested in. so i was always weird and never had many friends i could to abt my interests. so it gotten better in some ways but i can still feel the mean energy from these influencers same as the kids who never talked to me. be as cringe as u want, you WILL find ur ppl eventually. just be patient. live how you want to. don’t let some invisible voice in ur head or a miserable person online tell u otherwise. ENJOY URSELF!!
Yup, I’ve always had a bunch of hobbies and by the time i was in my 30s it was great seeing someone who made fun of me, buying a ticket to see my band which led to my local access show etc…. They made fun of me but now paid to see me be myself. We’re the ones who are going to enjoy life because we don’t try to pull people down. I’m now 40 and still collecting hobbies. I’ll never stop being “cringe”.
@ i wasn’t sure if anyone would be interested! i’ve been drawing for at least ten years, i’ve been crocheting for a few and i can play a handful of instruments (guitar/bass, ukulele, clarinet, saxophone.) i was in band for 3 years but i’m mainly focusing on guitar and bass. i’ve also been reading since i was small, so when i was younger, i was pretty isolated bc i never knew anyone who’d read for fun. hence my previous comment. thank u for ur interest, it makes me happy!!
THANK YOU. I was bullied so much for being “cringe” and loving my favorite band- Set It Off. I was always self conscious when I performed these songs due to it, but I still persisted. Don’t be shamed out of your hobbies- you are great at them. To be cringe is to be free.
What is that phenomenon where once you learn about or discover something new, you start seeing it everywhere?? I never heard of Set It Off until a few weeks ago, and I love some of their songs, they’ve been on repeat. It feels surreal to casually come across a mention of it in an unrelated TH-cam comment section now, only after just discovering them and never seeing them mentioned before
My stepdad unironically calls things cringe all the time despite the fact he has hobbies most would consider “cringe” like dnd he has sessions with his friends every weekend he even collects and hand paints miniatures and he’s good at it but it’s just u can tell that he’s sorta ashamed of his hobbies cause he didn’t even mention dnd to my mom when they were dating until he invited her to his house and she saw his collection it’s just it makes me sad you know like god forbid he have a hobby I guess to this day my mom wants nothing to do with his dnd stuff
So I'm an elder millennial and I feel like this isn't just a Gen Z problem; if anything, I think Gen Z has reached this point because earlier generations have, either accidentally or on purpose, been stamping down on the things that bring us joy for a long time and it's become ingrained. I grew up hearing my dad talking about "putting away childish things" in response to how I never stopped loving animation or video games. I was bullied at school for having nerdy and/or non-feminine hobbies and interests. Millennials lived through dire economic circumstances that meant we couldn't really enjoy our childhoods when we had them, but the spectre of "Being An Adult" still lingers and is reinforced by our peers who seem to have bought into this sad, beige idea of being "normal", resulting in those of us who now *can* afford to indulge our youthful interests being derided on all sides as being, well, "cringe". To quote George Bernard Shaw: "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing". And from CS Lewis: "When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." You don't get art and music and creativity without embracing play. It's a shame that people seem so keen to run away from that, especially since we need those things so deeply these days.
The CS Lewis quote works so well! It’s also interesting how fairy tales, children’s stories, and animated movies which are seen as “childish” are all made by adults. If they enjoyed any book or movie they should thank the creative people behind them rather than trash their hobbies and passions.
i’m 20 now and i’m in my final year of university, i studied abroad in france and then spent 4 months working in canada (i’m from england) and those experiences have been so freeing for me. being physically removed from my normal setting and living alone on another continent. it’s crazy you don’t realise the social pressure on yourself until you go through periods where you can remove it. i no longer care if people think i’m cringe for obsessing over learning french or travelling because they’re the ones missing out from my perspective. people still try and it sucks but the older you get, the more embarrassing it is to dog on others for harmless interests.
Insane that anyone could think about calling someone cringe for learning a second language. Not only is it one of the most intellectually impressive feats one can achieve as an adult, it's also one of the most fulfilling, opening the doors to a whole world of new cultural possibilities. I read this comment before watching the video and came back to it after Doothi mentioned learning Japanese because of anime since... that's exactly what I did. Started learning the basics when I was around 12, did some more formal study in my university years and after graduating I spent two months in Japan. Next year will mark 10 years since that trip and I still think about it every day. I'm not quite as obsessed with Japan as I used to be but it's still a deep, long-lasting influence on my life that I'll probably carry with me to my grave. To think people would deny themselves such an experience because they think it's "cringe" is just so sad.
you have no idea how much inner strength it took to put up Kpop posters on my wall due to fighting my own inner cringe. I was like "What if I have people over and they see them?"... like it was bad to openly display things that I paid for?? Having hobbies is so underrated and overlooked, and its now considered "brave" to outwardly enjoy things. Thanks for another Doothi banger as usual.
having interests and hobbies are as human as breathing too. no doubt some nobles in the 1800s were putting up cool paintings they bought. it’s cool to see people show their support for self expression and self autonomy, those two are things that society desperately need to cherish
This is terrifying, as a not gen z, please I'm begging you, internalize that doing things is good and healthy. This is what keeps you going in life and might even open career paths.
Can't relate. Me and the fellas been ballin our whole lives. Even before the ball renaissance of 2012. We TOO personable in these streets. My homeboys be doing spoken word poetry about police oppression whilst making they own gumdrops on the stove like a Walter Wonka. Lames can't look down on what we do cuz we always on top.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS, it's sooooo sad!!!!! The only valid hobbies nowadays are "gym" and "hanging out with friends" or even "netflix"!!!!!! Like are you fucking serious I can't hear it anymore. And I tell people I do hip hop dance and parkour and they make me feel like thats SOOO niche and special like WHAT? When did dance become a nerdy/unusual hobby? It makes me crazy sad and I'm relieved at least I'm not the only one who feels like that and ANY song i turn on that's not in the latest tiktok-charts people are like "oh, INTERESTING taste in music!!" BRO!!!!! what!!!!!
watching this as someone who is now 30 years old, and has a very loving and accepting social circle, im kind of surprised that this is what people outside of my bubble are talking about….like damn…… back in my day, a belief system became popular that helped with these kinds of things a lot, and that was: “well, they’re not hurting anybody.” when you talked about where being a kpop fan becomes ‘too much,’ and overzealous, i thought about kpop stans on twitter that harass people…that’s where i would say that it’s too much, because then that is causing harm to others. but doing dances with your friends and having fun is definitely not the same thing! idk the online culture of finding ANY reason possible to tear into someone is exhausting to me, but could be really harmful to younger people or people who are more insecure. but try to remember that it’s not real. these opinions are much less meaningful than sharing your heart with people who care about you.
with AI taking over everything, artistic performances included, i feel it is *crucial* that WE keep doing things ourselves, we have to keep writing, keep drawing, keep nerding out about our little niche interests
I remember working in a summer camp and one of the kids there was really into trains. Like he had a YT channel about trains. When we did an ice breaker game his hobby came up and somebody said he had no life in response. He just answered with "At least I do something I like, fortnite kid." That kid is my hero to this day.
This reminds me of my Meta Runner fanfiction. For context I interpreted the world of Meta Runner as a future ruled over by the Nerd Heirachy, basically pro gamers are at the top and train nerds are at the bottom. I had an alternate timeline where when the last of the resistance had to run away after one of them was framed for murder, they took refuge just outside the city in a model railway club in a dis-used train station/station masters office. The world of gamers was fought with drama but here were the railfans; separate but content with each others company and the model train set they shared.
The "you have no life" thing has made me angry for years. They DO, in fact, have a life, but because it's not a life you personally would like you think that invalidates it because you're the protagonist of life. It's such a self-centered yet un-self-aware thing to say
I never encountered this kind of person, but I don't doubt that they exist. I've always been the "weird kid" (aka the autistic kid) so I was never really that conscious of what people thought of as "cringe". I do what I like and I'm passionate about it! I really don't think it's a stretch to attribute at least a small chunk of this hatred of nerds/yappers/whatever to ableism and just straight up bullying. It's mean and weird.
As a genuine old (40+) i just want you to know that this IS cyclical, so it's unfortunate that your teen years are coming in a "jaded" cultural phase, but WE'RE the ones who created that expectation and YOU'RE the ones making it cool to be fun again!
I get it. It's giving early 20s, pretending I don't care what people think of me while really really caring what people think. Elder genz here, all my friends are very close to 30 we all rock climb, some rum half marathons, loads of us got back into Warhammer, I bought a Motorbike. Yes we're a meme. No one cares. They're all preoccupied with their own lives and self image. So do the nerdy thing, go out there and talk too much. If they're actually your friend they owe you to at least hear you out.
imo, that's the beauty of being in our 30's. we're just living our lives and don't care that much about someone else's opinion. I hope younger generations will grow to that phase without the dread of being themselves.
@@gelenamurenaI’m 21 and I’m trying to grow out of it but it takes years, I really only adopted this mindset when I was 17 or 18. I still see some of my friends trapped in this cycle and I hope to encourage them because it’s just sad to see.
You must kill the part of yourself that cringes. Perhaps it's because I'm a Tumblr user, but I realised a few years ago that getting the fuck over yourself and ignoring those that cringe at you is the only way to be happy. Being passionately interested in something is not bad. It's not wrong. The only time fandom crosses over into being such is where it starts to be actually harmful (and no, making you cringe is not harmful). Amateurishness (I prefer this term to mediocrity) is the spice of life. I've become absolutely steeped in the folk scene in my country, which is a majority amateur scene. It's fabulous. I started performing, even, because I found out I could actually hold a tune. I've wanted to sing for years, since I was a little girl. Partially it was social pressure holding me back, but partially (and you don't touch upon this too much) it was the mistaken belief that to do something and do it publically, you have to be highly skilled. This isn't true. There's a base level of skill, sure, but you don't need to be perfect. Anyone that derides you for not being so is the kind of person who doesn't start for fear of not being perfect, and anyone like that is not someone you want to be. So go, be cringe and be merry. You'll be happier. As a sidenote, this isn't new to gen z. Millennials had that whole "ironically" phase when they were in their 20s. They grew out of it and gave us Disney adults and other such "cringe" people. We will too.
not to mention that being passionate and creative is part of the basis of what makes us human. the Italian Renaissance happened because of people’s love for the arts and their passionate driven ideas of creating a better life. people’s actions are reflections of themselves so it’s best to not take anything personally and continuing to express yourself. self autonomy is really important so i’m glad to see others agree with me on this
It says magnitudes more about the one who cringes than the object allegedly cringed at. Disgust comes from mental processes predicated on erroneous premises rooted in shame, which always comes down to manipulation.
A few months ago I got into a hobby that's widely considered cringe (fursuit making - something like a quarter done with my first) and it hasn't caused any problems for me because I don't really use social media. My friends and family know. They think it's cool I'm trying a new hobby and learning to sew. The only social media I use is Discord, where I'm part of three servers (small setver with friends, big server about a game I like, big server about fursuit making) and I share about this hobby with other people who have the same hobby. I have yet to get made fun of for my cringe hobby.
@RaidenShogun.. Some of them sure are! Of course I'm just starting out and I'm not there yet, but the one piece I've fully completed so far (the paws) came out a way that I'm happy with :) Making lots of mistakes, out of a dozen mistakes in the paws alone only one of them is visible on the final result though (one of the claws is at a way weird angle). Faux fur is a very forgiving material, the fur does a great job covering most mistakes made with the backing.
I'm glad you brought up anime cause it's definitely one of the "weird" hobbies that is starting to get kinda cool but not too cool. It use to be seen as hella "cringe" pre 2016 and it's so interesting how it use to be cringier to cosplay as characters or watch anime(but if the anime you like is weird or ur too passionate or don't meet beauty standards then you're still cringe to a lot of ppl sadly). I remember someone back then made fun of me for having a fucking jjba manga and flash forward to it being more normalized to like anime and they watched all of one piece. Like i'm glad you're letting yourself like that now, but damn it says a lot about how much having a socially acceptable hobby changes how people treat you even if they might actually like the hobby once they pick it up when it's normal enough for them to try. If it weren't for people having passions, other people wouldn't get inspired to try new things. My best friend shared a lot of their favorite video games with me and would talk a lot to me about all the intricacies in the games and it inspired me to start critically analyzing the media i consumed and seeing all the hidden details that makes the art so good. They literally gave me media literacy :'). And now i'm a fucking artist aspiring to work in animation(also cause of anime cause I started drawing glad i'm not the only one) so, people should want to talk to people with hobbies, cause you never know if it'll make you wanna pick up something similar or just hell hearing your friend happy about something it makes me smile hearing people talk about things they are interested in. Why would anyone want to ruin that happiness?? Anyways thank you sm for this video I'm glad it showed up in the recommended. I am officially a Doothi sub cause ur editing, organization of thoughts, and just vibes are what youtube needs right now.
I'm a little older than most of the viewers here, and in the early and mid 2000s I used to get publically and violently bullied for liking anime, or as they called it back then, gay Chinese cartoons. People would look at me like I was a pest when I would talk about anime. And nowadays I walk down the street and I see coke using giant anime mascots on the sides of busses to advertise and anime movies in my local theater and I feel like I'm being gaslit about my childhood. Now it's cool. Like I'm glad people don't get bullied about it anymore, but I feel like I'm going crazy.
@@alejandrorivas4585What’s worse is that if you try to speak about this how people will tell you the real reason why you got bullied was because you were naruto running in the halls or being a creep
As a guy who grew up in a working-class household that couldn’t afford hobbies, it’s been therapeutic taking up interests now that I can afford them as an adult. I collect vinyl records, buy myself Lego sets, take creative art classes like learning how to build neon signs, and even have a couple of pet projects at home. People can say whatever they want about my hobbies, but the experience has been liberating and for every hater who has ever talked shit, there have been many more admiring my interests and asking for advice on how to pursue them themselves.
being ashamed of your interests is basically missing out on life. I prefer doing all of those things that I like even if anyone could consider it cringy instead of growing old and regretting that I didn't have any fun experiences
On the one hand, i do see this as a very valid critique and observation. On the other hand, i think this is today's equivalent of a "counter culture". If being boring and "chill" is the norm, then being cringe and "too much" is the new emo, the new gothic, the new punk...you get me. I have recently be thinking about how nowadays there are no any subcultures anymore. Everyone thinks about souless arsthetics. But this discourse makes me think that maybe the "new" subculture has not a defined aesthetic or recognizable look, and its more about being able to expose yourself, being yourself and enjoying yourself without feeling shame about it. I think its a good counter culture movement, to start being more real, more "cringe". People who have been part of a subculture or counter culture have always been deemed as nerd, weird, cringe, etc... As you said, that must mean someone has a personality...
On point! When the culture itself gets wacky, the (actual) counterculture has to get ever so much wackier that... it becomes normal?.. Subversion of subversion is reconstruction. In the era of postirony, to be a punk is to be sincere.
I'm a musician, and something I've noticed is that so many musicians are scared to show confidence on stage out of fear of being made fun of. There's this one guy in my music course who gives every performance his all and It's honestly so refreshing to see somebody perform without any fear of judgement. I once saw a video of this girl singing a Melanie Martinez song, she was getting really into it but instead of people praising her they were making fun of her. I feel like we live in a world where you're allowed to be passionate about something but only in a way that others have been passionate about them before (socially acceptable) even though that somewhat goes against passion's true meaning. Btw I loved this video :)) I found your channel from your last video and love your takes on things and video editing style (also the carpets are fire)
Im a huge hobbyist, and haven't experienced any negative reactions to talking about what I care about since I developed the social skills to recognize when its right to talk about and when its the time to stop. Not outright denying the experiences communicated in this video, but I do think some people who get extra focused on their personal interest can allow social stuff to fall to the wayside, which leads to maladaptive behaviors when they have social interactions. People with clinical ASD are cool obv, that kinda learning can potentially never come, but that represents a very small percentage of the population.
Same with the fanfiction and self inserts, for a long time I used to think it was cringe, especially historical RPF. Then one day I woke up with a cool idea and wrote an entire fic, in that moment I didn’t really feel “cringe” I just felt so passionate about my work. Then I realized RPF is basically the same as historical fiction which is (mostly) viewed as normal and now I’ve learned to embrace myself and get over the part of me that cringes.
I feel like this is a huge red flag for rising anti-intellectualism and a warning sign that good quality information is about to be re-privatized Also this reminds me of how people don’t like overt marketing anymore so it’s become more subtle-which convinces people that more overt methods are “scammy” even though it’s often because people just… don’t know the more advanced manipulative methods that professional marketers use.
@ I mean gatekept in a general sense. The actual word I was looking for was “paywalled” but I figured re-privatized was close enough, since making correct information public was the work of several centuries (also I forgot the word paywall). I already see people argue that people who don’t have access to university libraries or academic papers deserve the common misinformation floating around the internet. I’ve even seen influencers who spread oversimplified or misinformation arguing they should get paid for spreading bad information to the public and if the masses don’t like it they should become better educated. Which is just an argument that post secondary school (universities and colleges) should take the place in high school (since people fought for high school to teach critical thinking, civics, and various kinds of literacy [textile, financial, information, media, scientific are the ones that come to mind but I know there are more]). And high school is no longer able to teach those skills because class sizes are too big (preventing children from learning, requiring more and more repetition of the same information), too underfunded, and too focused on test scores instead of logic or self-discipline (ie, not how much information you can memorize, but how well you can locate and understand information you need). Additionally you lose access to most good information once your affiliation with academia is gone because academic journals and books are far too expensive to buy outright (deliberately so). Getting rid of public access to education and resources is a relaunch of class stratification since if schools don’t teach you, say, financial literacy, and your parents don’t know it, odds are you will also be financially illiterate. That the information technically exists somewhere is immaterial if you can’t find or evaluate it in a way that benefits yourself. That’s why experts exist. But now we have public “experts” (influencers) and private experts (actual specialists). And public experts are seen as a replacement for public education. And many of those public “experts” are getting paid a lot more for spreading bad information than teachers ever were for teaching skills. While public “experts” consistently argue not only should they be paid but they should go unregulated. The situation is dire and people will soon be arguing that because people are already uneducated and uninterested in education or self-improvement (as if that happened naturally or by chance), regular access to educational resources should be restricted or rescinded altogether. They already are arguing, implicitly, that corporations are the correct stewards of information. And that’s what I mean by “general gatekeeping”. I’ve seen a lot of these arguments calling out either countries that don’t have free public libraries or singling out the US but from what I’ve seen reading social media many, many countries are going through some version of this. And this isn’t even getting into information being so siloed it’s causing material knowledge degradation. Hopefully that made sense. EDIT: TL;DR: average libertarian take: “people don’t need real information because they hate it. So everyone should resent information and only being given information that will pacify them.” I’m a little alarmed people don’t notice how pro-corporate and anti-regulation, anti-public, and anti-transparency it is.
@@Lacewise I'm a little confused by why you called "actual specialists" "private" experts. A lot of, for example, public universities have experts that put out information as part of their jobs. "Additionally you lose access to most good information once your affiliation with academia is gone" Does your institution do that? I can still log in mine (years after graduating) and access journal articles. Plus libraries often also buy access to some stuff. Your point on high school-I definitely think that's the most alarming. One symptom that has stuck out to me for years is the way people fit science papers into their arguments/worldview. They're used just like in high school. high school days: I gotta pad out my sources section. I chose to argue x so I'm just gonna look for any paper that has a sentence that sounds like it supports x. real life argument: I believe x. I'll google papers supporting x. This title/abstract/1 sentence sounds like it supports x! I find it quite rare that a person looking to argue something actually reads a substantial part of a paper. First, they already firmly hold the belief before they had evidence. Then, even if they'll spend time to write some long dumb argument, they'll spend 0 time checking anything about the papers they cite. Not the statistics/numbers, not the methodology, not conflicts of interest, and probably not that the paper even supports what they're saying. I don't mean that I expect someone to check ALL of those, for it is quite a time-consuming and dry process, but it's surely worth checking at least a little! And, to tie this back to the earlier point, I'm not so worried about access to science journals from the public, because in the first place people aren't educated (or disciplined?) enough to make good use of it anyway. Not to say that lack of access is not an issue, but more that IMO, lack of critical thinking is a much bigger problem. 'And many of those public “experts” are getting paid a lot more for spreading bad information' So sad to see. I watched a video from Tom Nicholas about Veritasium. The latter did a video ad about Waymo autonomous taxis. Tom Nicholas's main point was that Veritasium minimized the fact that it was an ad-a quick sentence dismissed with a shrug-and was totally uncritical about the tech. And Veritasium replied in the comments many times, ignoring the crux of the video, instead only talking about how autonomous vehicles are great and Tom Nicholas's criticisms of them were wrong. It was crazy to me how much he was trying to sweep the issue under the rug. After all, surely he didn't misunderstand the point, because the vast majority of the comments (which included many other YTers who had done or had the opportunity to do similar deals) understood the point of the video, but Veritasium chose to act like he did nothing wrong. And he's not the only one...
@@winrawrisyou it’s difficult to explain my thought process without going into the history of academic exclusivity and misconduct because otherwise my reasoning would sound paranoid. I don’t mean to imply they’re all trying to be exclusionary. I do see that as the result. If you’re not familiar with why, assume what I’m saying is unsound. Having done research for a video now I’d say that influencers spreading misinformation works exactly how you’ve described: they don’t want to do the work do they ignore contradictory or complexing information. Which also means they have a vested stake in their audience not actually learning anything. I’d put public librarians and (good) scientific and academic communicators in a separate category, of “public specialist”. (Although if we wanted to get into there are also public generalists who aren’t deliberately oversimplifying, they’re just trying to introduce people to subject matter). But given how niche and small those industries are compared to influencers… (I didn’t put this in the original reply because it is VERY easy to assume an influencer is actually a communicator which is another way bad information is passed off as good). Ultimately it reminds me of the Mark Twain quote, “a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” Because influencers can afford to be more salacious and entertaining and, therefore, less truthful. I disagree about access because I don’t think people will understand it until they’re more familiar. Getting them to value what they’re losing is probably a separate issue with a separate fix. However I think a huge underlying problem we’re both touching on is people thinking anything that takes time is not worth doing for them, and only maybe for someone else (if you can convince them it’s profitable). Things people take as inefficiencies are so often quality checks that I don’t understand exactly how so many people were convinced that ripping out quality controls… wouldn’t lead to worse quality….? Yes, there are many current examples of presenting marketing as truth. People’s media literacy is especially low. I can’t watch certain TH-cam genres now unless I’m willing to fact check everything in real time. EDIT: also yes as far as I know it’s commonplace to lose access to educational materials once your time at university is over.
I don't care about the chill vibe. I love writing, watching anime and listening to musicals. I love being gay and having rainbow hair and being literally the most colorful dressed one in the room.
At my workplace some of the desks look like nobody's even worked at that station. Meanwhile I have my frog figurines, my crabs, my favorite childhood fridge magnets (since I rent a room and thus it's a communal fridge at home), some small crafts. When I'm bored and it's slow I'll make lil paper crafts like party hats or color or do diamond art. I have frog art taped to my cubicle walls as well as my other SFW interests (so no memes, but I do have my Welcome to the Frog Parade parody song art lol). Job can't even complain about it cuz I keep my station clean and when we had go switch cubicles I was more prepared the day of than anybody else and my new cubicle had every knick knack n picture back up within an hour without any decrease in productivity 😎✨️
As a 30 y/o millennial I feel really bad for genz and gen alpha growing up with such a mean online culture. It’s already hard enough to be a teenager but to have the additional element of potentially thousands of people bullying you online just because of something you like is so scary. Anyways all those people online taking time out of their day to pick on other people’s hobbies is super gross and lame. They seem like the mean girls that peak in high school types. Life is fun when you can find things that you’re passionate about.
What's frustrating is that the "avoiding sincerity" mentality bleeds into everyday life. People try to act cool to maintain an image and if you express something that doesn’t fit an unspoken societal standard, it's either bashed or made something to laugh at. Ofc I don’t let it control my actions, but there’s still the desire to fit in. Now that Spotify Wrapped is about to be released, I'm tentative about sharing the Kpop and Monstercat music I enjoy to others. Once again, there's the choice to blend in, or be honest. And I'm not bringing any benefit to my life by watering down my hobbies. Tbh that's the only way I can think of to getting those rigid ideals to fade away.
One of the biggest lessons I've learned about authenticity was around ten years ago when I'd feel bad for liking mlp despite being the literal target audience, then I'd see grown ups liking mlp too (though now I get many of them were probably being ironic), and understand there was no age to like what you like. We should be able to freely express ourselves, it's a literal human right, and the fact culture is shifting towards oppressing it is... sad, to say the least. Great video! I'd really like to see a part 2
i was the my little pony girl too. when i was a kid people made fun of me for being too happy, i wish i was still "too happy". we live in such a dumb world. be who you really want to be anyway, don't try to market yourself 24/7. it wouldn't even be worth it if it worked.
You’re right, I write fanfiction and I always talk openly about it (in person, and to mixed results, some people think it’s weird, and others I can get to understand. Luckily being more open about it has made it less likely for people to bully me because I have nothing to hide). Though The only social medias I use are tumblr and TH-cam (and discord kinda but only to text friends?) so I will admit those are the more chill ones when it comes to ‘cringe’ things. I also animate a lot (and in turn watch a TON of animated shows which are normally seen as childish), and am sort of trying to learn to make games (not good at it-). I was more embarrassed when I first started doing this stuff, but now it’s easier to just have fun. And it feels rewarding when you meet someone who feels similar to you, sometimes all you got to do is write sonic fanfic
SONIC FANFIC!! i put that little blue skrunkly through HELL and half my friends think im weird but i dont care! all that matters is hurting sonic tbh (im excited to see another sonic fanfic writer im sorry haha)
@@lilwoofs NO WAY!!! my most recent project was actually a mercenary au and somehow sonjet and ex sonamyshad managed to worm its way into it and it is SO fun (im a multi shipper i ship everything but i prefer poly sonamyshad) its so angsty and im having the time of my life!! lets both keep writing!!!!!!
I genuinely think that people look the happiest and exude the most peace when they indulge in their hobbies or talk abt them at length. I love when someone else gets into a rant on the thing they love, they look like they’re ALIVE. I hate the whole cringe wave, I understand taking a giggle abt something awkward but why make fun of people just enjoying things. You can listen for a bit even if you don’t like it, why not make a good friend shit man ppl are sad and boring
Knowing I’m autistic has really helped disempower this genre of comments. I’m *going to* enjoy something, at a cellular level, on purpose. That’s unshakeable and inevitable. I generally don’t acquaint myself with those who may express or be prepared to express cynicism (you can tell, at least I’ve spent my life learning how to recognise outwards signs) towards… honest enjoyment of Subjects and Activities. The purity and integrity of my absorption vastly outweighs the gritty satisfaction of peer submission. Rebel and kindred spirits will find you!
People are so afraid to be authentic that it kinda circles back around to being cringe if that makes sense. Like why is someone getting so pissed off over another person having fun? Because they don't have the courage to express themselves and have no hobbies? Why care so much about what another person is doing? And the cycle continues.
i have a good amount of hobbies and interests and whilst usually people are pretty chill about it i definitely feel the whole “socially/non socially acceptable level of interest” thing a lot. sometimes i feel i have to tone down how much i enjoy something to not come off as weird. i remember one interaction i had with someone where the topic of wwe came up and i mentioned i was a wrestling fan, and the way their tone shifted when they found out i wasn’t a “haha isn’t this so ridiculous” ironic enjoyer and instead genuinely enjoy it lol…i feel like people are expected to have a ironic “guilty pleasure” mentality torwards anything that could be interpreted as a cringe interest. as ive gotten older, i honestly care less about what someone could say about what i enjoy. there’s not enough sincerity nowadays.
this channel is still so cool, as a creator myself its so nice to see people openly and genuinely discuss topics such as these. I tend to keep my channel and hobbies away from people I know out of embarrassment, and I think that's mostly due to me seeing others get put down for trying to uphold their own channel.
i genuinely am so terrified to tell people what shows i like. im fine telling people i like cats the musical because i *know* its kinda strange and niche (no thanks to the 2019 movie for that perception…). but when it comes to shows and games i rlly genuinely like, im so scared to say it. and its been like that since i was in 5th grade! the only place i feel able to talk about it is at conventions, where i know people wont judge me for it. its hard even for me to talk to my friends who got me into the shows sometimes.
TH-cam randomly handing me this video so I can learn that there are apparently groups of people on earth that don’t like it when you have hobbies and interests, nightmarish.
This topic reminds me of the book title "why be happy when you could be normal" (by Jennette winterson) which I know is about queerness but I still think those words could be applied to so niche hobbies you're passionate about with being yourself and authentically happy instead of trying to be normal or cool.
i find it very amusing how i've managed to surround myself with the sort of people where i have the complete opposite problem - i'm scared of having too LITTLE personality lmao that being said i definitely have experience from an old friend group of mine of genuine passion/interest being seen as extra, and GOD as someone with niche and weird-ass interests that shit was a nightmare TwT so glad to see that being called out here!!!!!
reminds me of hozier's "to noise making." he describes someone he admires singing because it's fun for them, with no regard to how it sounds. he encourages it. "at best, you find a little remedy; at worst, the world will sing along." i love that song ❤
Just because I feel like it I'm going to list all the fandoms displayed in my room from most to least socially acceptable. First is Pokemon, very popular so it's the most "normal'. Second is TMNT, again very popular, but seen as very childish. Third is Plants Vs. Zombies, it's past it's peak in popularity but still decently respected as a franchise. Fourth is the Lego movie, I could probably swap this with PVZ as it's mostly in the same spot in the public's eye. Fifth is Stikbots, those little suction cup guys that were popular in 2016 I think. Honestly I think they're underrated as they also double as pretty good fidget toys!! Sixth is 9, that creepy movie about those ragdolls. I don't even think the movie is that good, yet I love it anyway haha. I really enjoy showing off the things I love and over time have become more confident about doing so in public!! I notice that I am happier when I do so AND it attracts the kind of people who I would enjoy to be friends with!! I guess to be cringe really is to be free :P Also sorry if this was hard to read, I'm both staying up late and ill T_T
i have never seen another 9 fan in the ten years ive been a fan of that movie omfg hi!!!! i love 9!!!! the movie isnt even that good youre right 😭 i have the pirated link saved to my browser and im planning on downloading it to a usb sometime soon because i watch it regularly still. god i love it
@@mahimahsan6059 OMG YESSSS!!!! I remember showing the movie to my mom one time and she was so concerned lmaooo!! It's nice to see there are still people who like this strange movie :D
Honestly what's unfortunate is ive been bullied for pokemon. Be proud of your interests. Show them off like a badge of honor. People who bully or find stuff cringe or weird don't care what it is. They'll make fun of it no matter what and that's why you have to stand strong. Your interests are cool and valid because they are you.
gen z and their need to layer irony and humor on top of everything they do is so insufferable. can we please go back to being human thx. i genuinely hate my generation and this timeline so much. the way that people will record strangers doing something they’re passionate about or trying to learn and then post it to make fun of them makes me boil over with rage anytime i see it. i hate feeling like i can’t exist in public comfortably anymore because someone might take pictures of my “weird outfit” or whatever. i actually had this happen to me one time and it took everything in me to not scream in his face. i hate smartphones and genuinely think they were a mistake, but now it feels like having one is a requirement to exist in the world. i hate all this
we’ve never been not insufferable as a society. generations past couldn’t record or post about you, but they could round you up to laugh at you in the town square, post you in a newspaper/magazine, or beat you up and call you slurs without anyone batting an eye (people can still do that today, but has public disruption gotten better or worse cause of social media? somehow both? idk). ofc having an online life to worry about (even if you’re not online yourself) on top of your real life is stressful, but it’s never been easy for us “weirdos”, it’s just taken out on us in different ways over the years
@@doothi It's also quite noticeable in movies. I'll be watching something and something serious is happening, and then the main character hits me with a stupid quip to take me out of the scene. The villain? Their defeat was a total joke, haha! It's a lack of sincerity.
Nah choomba, are you from fucking Chía and in Los Andes? Cus you sound like my brother. But yeah shit is for real, pop culture is the fucking worst and should be destroyed, i really can't give enough of two fucks about pop culture and general perception, perhaps being raised in a non-traditionalist environment helped, perhaps being gay and queer did, perhaps just being into actually studying shit.
Why is mediocre and mid associated with bad? From how the folks around me use it, they use it to describe shows/media/services that they did not like at all, instead of it being ok/alright. It's ok to be mediocre at something, to not be excellent, to not make a career/profit off of efforts and hobbies. Mediocre isn't bad. I feel like the perception of greatness or nothing also holds people back from pursuing hobbies
Yesss I agree the fact that we have to pursue being the best at everything we do which holds us back from even trying for fear of failing or even worse being laughed at for failing
i don't get into talking about my hobbies cause i value other people's time, i do not wanna be nerding out for 2 hours about how the breakdown on the latest psychedelic prn crumpets song was actually a complete accident due to the band's improvisational style of song making that can be especially seen in that song thus creating a multigene style of both psychedelic rock metal and surf rock... now i will stop myself.
I think I might be a bit older than the target audience here (university student), but I've seen this around the dating scene a lot. I'm on Hinge (unfortunately), and lot of people will put down the strangest things as their prompts--I've seen far too many where all of them just list different types of food they enjoy. It's awfully "safe" of them, and I can't really bring myself to start conversation of any sort ("go girl give us nothing"). Likewise, a lot of people will say they're into "nerds" and "listening to someone yap"--like that feels almost like objectification (nerds, truly the most oppressed minority) of just the most basic conversation, and makes it seem oddly one way (conversations are, by nature, an active exchange)??? Though truth be told, I do have some interests (indie music, jazz, 20th C. literature, narrative RPGs), but I definitely avoid exploration of them because of this fear of appearing simultaneously lame and overzealous or just a total poser. Gen Z, I suppose, really is cooked.
Another banger video, whenever a subject like this comes up I always think about the quote “I’m cringe, but I’m free”. I had an experience really similar to this, I performed a song named Anyone Else but you from a movie named Juno. While everyone else played super hype and upbeat songs, I just went up with my guitar and played a short and sweet song. I was really happy that at least one person in the crowd recognized it but it was liberating. It’s great hearing experiences similar to this and once again love your videos and can’t wait for the next one :p
Hate being nonchalant honestly I mean it’s so discouraging It get’s a lot worse when you’re really expressive person and you have to hold your feelings back Great vid
I am so glad you talked about this topic!! I've had trouble with making friends in the past because of this exactly. Most of my peers "hobbies" were social media, talking, chilling. I never understood that. Neither they understood that I genuinely enjoy playing the guitar. You guys don't worry, enjoy your hobbies and the people will come at the right time. You're doing great😁🎉
This ALL goes back to the current trend of anti-intellectualism. Knowing things, doing things, and caring about things are seen as 'cringe' and I'm afraid that it's only gonna get worse. Resist being part of the meh-flavored masses! Have a goddamn personality! Who cares if people label you as cringe? They're not the type of people you wanna associate with anyway, so why are you bothered by what they say/think? Meanwhile, if you actually do show you have a personality and being unapologetic about it will attract the people you DO want to be around. I'm 33 and "cringe" I mean, just look at my furry pfp. But I also finally have a tight group of friends, I have a sense of style, I'm always doing SOMETHING. My lifestyle is fun and I encourage anyone to do it. Yes, you will inevitably grow out of certain phases and fixations, but you know what? It's better to have memories of having cringy fun than, I dunno, only having memories of doomscrolling tiktoks of people that are having an infinitely better time than you while you call them mean names? :/ It's your life, I guess, but that doesn't sound like a good life to me.
More has been written on this phenomenon than can be read in a lifetime, but about Generation X. Apathy-as-fashion was a staple of the Grunge movement, and it seems to have looped back around. Late Millennials and Gen Z had "irony poisoning," then "sincerity poisoning", and now it's cringe to be passionate again. Flat circle.
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i’m tired of living in a bucket full of boring crabs
i'm not
@ exactly what a boring crab would say
I thought that was a sex joke😅
@@hehheheheheehehehehehhehehehhe Crabs sure love dragging everyone else back down with them back into the bucket 🪣
Do you consider selfishness a virtue?
If your hobby is scrolling social media, don't come talking to me about "cringe" lol
no because scrolling through social media with no other hobbies AND calling hobbies "cringe" is, in fact, the cringest thing of them all.
Never been prouder to be a furry with furry friends than while watching this video lol
Don't come for me, but it feels similar to people who's hobby is shopping. Not shopping for their hobbies, but shopping because wasting money IS the hobby. While also mocking anyone who dares like anything "abnormal" (and abnormal is just liking toy collectibles or whatever).
@@Cobalt985 Oh man, furries. You guys are the perfect example. Absolute cringe in the social sense, but whenever I see furries in public, there's a real sense of fun, of joy. Now that I'm getting older, furries stopped being cringe for me and seeing people have such passion and fun actually brings me a bit of happiness, even though I'm not involved.
I fw lego
"I may be cringe but you're mean and that's worse" is a phrase I will forever think about because it's just. such a good comeback and also just. a good point
also "I may be cringe but you'll never amount to anything" because what the fuck are they gonna say back
@@wemustkungfufitewhat if they actually DO amount to something, say cancer research or something?
@@AFrogInTheStars with their pessimistic attitude i bet they probably wouldn’t achieve that. and if they do then whatever they’re still mean and angry
@@AFrogInTheStars then they've redeemed themselves and all is well. its a win win
@@AFrogInTheStars it's the good ending
"What are your hobbies? I dunno, texting?" is making me so sad. My hobbies (video games, art and static website creation) have brought me so much joy. It just seems like such an empty existence to imagine life without something to care about that much.
My life would be super dull without video games, documentaries, roller skating, and board games
Saying texting is your hobby is such a self own too
I would technically survive if tomorrow all books, anything to do with writing books, and video games disappeared, but I would be miserable for the rest of my life and not even my loved ones would be able to fill the massive hole the disappearances left in my heart.
See that's the thing. You're probably having a more complex cognitive experience that that person. I truly believe that people without hobbies just exist on a lower rung of the ladder of conscious, sentient thought. Their brains are just lesser.
What really gets me is how PROUD that person sounds about not having a real hobby, it kinda made my skin crawl. I still think Idiocracy is a terrible film with themes of eugenics and anyone who says it was a documentary has the absolute wrong idea, but I will say that movie portrayed a certain contempt for passion and disdain for any amount of effort into happiness from people that unfortunately I think is happening.
Gen z is its own sad beige mom basically, which is so depressing
Ich glaube jede Generation hatte ihre schwarze Schafe
That's actually a good point, now I'm wondering what the link is between this videos topic and the general trend of boring interior design.
I am genuinely ashamed as the older side of the generation.
XD Fuck off boomer. You see few people and say this is the whole generation. I don't know who is more stupid and depressing.
thats why even as a gen z i’ll always think millennials are cooler. they might be “cringe” but they’re way happier than gen z
I feel like the whole cringe thing stemmed from people generally being jealous of others so they bully those who are enjoying themselves to feel better about themselves
Oh absolutely that girl gave me mean popular girl energy. Like I feel like she would have been the kinda person who made fun of me for being into performing arts/being a theatre kid cause they're too cool.
I still think ogling anime waifus is cringe, and I'm not jealous of the young 20-somethings who continue to do that. Anime is fine. Rampant underage "fan service", not so much.
It stemmed from ableists trying to shame visibly neurodivergent people
@@blarghblargh cringe is the wrong word based on how you're describing it.
@@blarghblarghi'm pretty sure you're literally the kind of person OP describes, unless you actually mean something other than cringe
Sincerity is dying.
no, secrecy is rising but you can be sincere even if others aren't, if you do you may be shunned for it but its more likely you won't be shunned for long, *so be sincere!*
@@deethwarrior Oh, I'm advocating for more sincerity in general, that wasn't supposed to be pessimistic. This is a really odd subject for me to tackle rn because im stoned as fuck, so if this makes no sense im so sorry. Also, I'm like extremely isolated now for reasons I don't feel comfy explaining rn can you like possibly try and validate what I'm saying right now god I'm sorry this is super fucking low
As a sincere ass bitch, i felt this
yeah fr, like why am i embarrassed to be genuine and to care about things, let me be chalant
@@JammyJams-84 hey jams! have a good one, friend!
Girl this is so true. I recently redownloaded Tumblr and was taken aback at how openly people talked about writing fan fiction and I felt BETTER than them. Then overtime I realized these people were spending time and energy writing this beautiful prose while all I was doing was rotting in bed judging them 😭 getting a hobby is so vulnerable now and that’s why me and so many others are too afraid to pursue one 😵💫
Honestly, as someone who mainly uses tumblr as social media, this video was really surreal. Like what do you mean liking stuff is weird? I’ve spent the last several years just like, chilling and making cringe art.
@@MousingAroundPROFESSIR LAYTON
Lol I made a tumblr account last month
@@haresonagalet’s go professor Layton fans!!
People keep associating tumblr with mental illness and general toxicity, which admittedly is true, but tumblr is also amazing because of this!
People just do whatever the hell they like on that site and no one judges. I found people who have a list of neopronouns are the most random fictional crushes, the most random thoughts, most random hobbies and... it's normal there. Whereas anywhere else people just judge.
Yes there's a lot of weirdos and that can have horrible results, but it can also have amazing results??
Lately I had a fallout with a friend group, and when I recovered from the heartbreak, I started wanting to look for friends, but I had no idea where.
So I will try out tumblr. That place is full of colorful outcasts, and I think I will find like minded people there
"Why make fun of me for having a hobby, when you're a sad, boring, bully who hates themselves" is what I would say to them
PREACH
They’d be proud to hear that. Their hobby is spreading negativity for the sake of entertainment.
Did you come up with that in the shower? 😂
@@GreenEyedDazzler a hit dog will holler
Honestly if one of these people even tried to insult me id probably just feel pity for them
Then we wonder why so many people are so depressed. Everyone is repressing their personality.
Because you have assholes that either bully you or suck daylights our of you.
THISSSS IS SO REALLL my freshmen year in college I took a beginners level crafting class and was the only person with a background and genuine interest in art so I’d take my time with our assignments. Whenever we’d present the other students in the class would roll their eyes and sign when my work came up and nobody wanted to talk to me during our free work time and it was so isolating. At the end, the professor wanted to include my final project in a showcase for all the art classes and I was hesitant but I said ok as long as she doesn’t put my name and left it anonymous. I didn’t even go to see my work being displayed or ever claim it back after the showcase. I had built up so much shame around something I once genuinely enjoyed because of others opinions and it kept me from so much.
that absolutely breaks my heart, for you and for the professor :(
Those people are losers
Aww guys I love this community and the safe space we’ve built to be ourselves on the internet
Wow, what a crappy environment those people created. Why punish someone for doing good things? Sorry you had to deal with that.
That's genuinely sad, I'm sorry. I felt this way my latter half of art class as a senior hs student. Not to that extent, but I was rather discouraged.
Chappell Roan said it best “you’re not FUUUNNNNN!!!! Be fun and try!”
The only thing I know about Chappell Roan is a single Eurobeat remix of one of her songs but from this quote alone she seems cool :D
@ basically she had a performance at a music festival, no one in VIP was dancing and she called them out
@ysf-psfx It wasn't shaming though? She just made a light hearted joke, no?
@@RawrX32009yes, it was light hearted
Well, that's like when someone says "have you tried not being gay?"
Well duh, most gay people have and it didn't work for them.
shame is gonna ruin so many young people, they see themselves through the eyes of others and they are terrified of being perceived in a negative way. Life isn’t about experiences anymore but an endless need to perform for others. It’s sad
Welcome to the panopticon
that’s why i’m an advocate for self expression and self autonomy. it’s good to know that people’s actions are reflections of themselves, so it’s also best to take nothing personally. performing for yourself instead of others is liberating and with how connected our world is there are always going to be others who support you for who you are
who asked
@@ville-c4u ???
@@ville-c4u you call hobbies 'cringe', don't you?
Yeah, this tracks. I have a pretty niche hobby (great lakes maritime history) and I used to be extremely energized and outwardly passionate about it. And then I started getting called the "boat fucker" because I talked about it a lot, so people accused me of being sexually attracted to freighters. That killed my passion pretty quick. This was freshman year, i'm in my senior year now, and while this is still my biggest hobby and I love it, and i'm getting involved with communities and publications that focus around this subject, I have a very complicated relationship with my passion because I feel ashamed of it for sharing it at all, and I feel that I shouldn't participate, so I don't and I drift away. But I love great lakes history, so I hate this cycle. Thank you for the video!
I live on one of the Great Lakes and the history surrounding these amazing places is a good hobby to get into. You're smarter and have more of a personality than all the people who mocked you put together.
@@SR-wq3pi Thank you for your kind words!
This is such a unique hobby, I agree it makes you a very interesting person. Keep doing the things you love and you will find others like you eventually
Boat fucker is actually insane. Cool hobby though
I was once told - by a girlfriend no less - that everything I like would be cool if I was 6 or 60. Well, I only have 13 years to go before I'm allowed to f*cking well like what I like 😆
I'm reminded of the toxic worldview that I think the last generation (or maybe a generation or two before them?) commonly held, that was like: "if your hobby can't be monetized, or you aren't working towards forming a business around it, it's a waste of time"
Only now, it's become internalized generational trauma, manifesting as disapproval for anyone having any interest, that isn't for career or education reasons, I guess?
btw I also love Sophie Hunter, good ref, good vid, good fox too
I remember once when I mentioned that I played guitar, my friend’s mom (in her early 60s and very conservative), we got to talking about different guitars and she asked if I had any pictures of my guitar collection. I proudly showed her all 3 of my guitars lol and the first thing she said was “are you making any money off this? Time to get some gigs so those guitars pay for themselves”. It was toxic and very invalidating because at that point I didn’t gig and just did it for fun. There is some generational trauma involving shame for having a childlike enjoyment and amusement by a hobby, capitalism has also invaded so everything must be monetized and you have to become the best and compete with others rather than enjoy something for the sake of it
Yeah this is so accurate as a millennial. Hustle culture is so prevalent
AAAAAAAA SO MUCH THIS. You can’t just make knives for fun, you *have* to be doing it as a one-man business. Can’t just make silly little tunes for friends, you gotta be an artist with published stuff.
@@alandennis3853Nah man, I like to expose people for asking stupid questions like this. If people start to question your guitar collection, double down. Because by that logic, having garden flowers to care for is equally pointless and non-profitable.
@@alandennis3853 i hate that, it's a poor persons mindset. if you arent so poor that you are starving or freezing to death then go for whatever expensive hobby you want
better to literally burn dollar bills for fun than to be miserable and burnt out
Honestly, as an autistic man, having a special interests, aka being passionate about a hobby more than it is considered "normal" is a big part of the diagnosis. A lot of cringe culture is rooted in ableism and making fun of neurodivergent people for being "weird" due to something we were born with.
That's why I'm so thankful that now, as an adult, I can let go of my bullied kid years in highschool and actually find people like me who enjoy listening to me ramble about the things I enjoy and I can listen to them do the same in turn. I genuinely love meeting new people who are passionate about the things that are important to them.
I'm even dating this really cool punk girl who's going to art school that I deeply admire for being so blatantly and unashamedly herself. She's one of the most chill, understanding and fun people to be around I've had the pleasure of meeting so far. And she said that the thing she likes about me the most is that I'm so open and genuine about the way I am, my opinions and the thigns I enjoy, and that's honestly one of the nicest things anyone's said to me, cause that also means she genuinely likes the way I am and I'm free to express myself around her. It's nice to have people I can unmask around, knowing that they like my autistic self more than the mask I often have to show the world in order to protect myself
so happy for you!! as an autistic teen I hope things will work out for me too :)
@embe_r I'm sure you'll get there, eventually. Being a teen was a miserable experience for me so I hope you get the support you need soon enough.
A tip for meeting new and different people that's worked for me is going to places where they partake in your interests, like lessons, conventions, hangouts and stuff like that, which is easier as an adult since you don't need your family's permission, but it can be done as a teen as well. It also helps to just get the courage to approach anyone you find interesting or cool, which takes practice if you're as anxious as I am but it opens up so many opportunities for new friends. I actually met my first bf at a small anime convention in my town when I was like 15 and he was the first person who liked how weird I was and let me be myself
I know this sounds stupid but I feel like I have autism? I mean I only realized the possibility after my SPHE teacher was talking about Alan Turing being on the spectrum
but I suppose it makes sense everything stresses me out and socializing is harder compared to me and other people.
I don't know how to move forward I literally took tests online after school
on that day and for some reason they said I probably have autism I don't know if even getting a diagnosis will make my life easier or will I just realize I am dramatic not autistic
I feel embarrassed even looking up the signs and taking tests but my parents think it's waste to a test and I don't. I'm confused.
@@aaronsk8s-h8udon't self-diagnose, don't really trust online tests either. But yes, go and see a professional about it. It doesn't even matter if you will be considered on the spectrum or not, you will learn something about yourself.
@@timdevries2202 oh ok thank you
I feel like the Disney adult video from Kurtis kinda veered into how people worship a billion dollar corporation and deify the man who founded it instead of appreciating the artists behind it.
but it should’ve stayed focused on that and not people just really enjoying things
there's so much valid criticism to be made about disney as a whole but "disney adult" snark content is usually just barely concealed misogyny (and probably ableism, a LOT of neurodivergent people have stuff like disney theme parks as a hyperfixation/special interest)
Yeah having a hobby based entirely on consumption is cringe, but also you do you. Go have fun.
@@cjboyo I think part of the reason we see Disney Adults as particularly bad is because of the overlap of Disney Adult and (Possibly Religious/Conservative) White People
i watched that video only once and there were a few good points in there but sometimes i do feel like people only bring up the good points against liking disney (and other things, like anime or japanese things) just to punch you down into not liking it. you can absolutely be a disney adult or a form of one and still be very critical and engage w disney (and anime, etc) material. i hate when people talk about, for example, how kpop idols are racist, homophobic, misogynistic, etc. or saying how the kpop industry is exploitative, bc i know they are just saying that to show how their interests are so much superior than yours but not actually. its diff in kpop bc most kpop fans are hyper aware of the dark sides of the industry but i feel like a lot of disney fans are aware of disney's horrible history and current politics. not all, but enough for people to not lump the entire community into one stereotype of purposefully naive nostalgia driven consumers.
The moment you said dancing to k-pop in monster high cosplay my first thought was that sounds so fun! Loved seeing clips from it! 💃
Wait a minute, ik you! Anyways I love ur vids :)
i was not expecting to see u here lol
Oh, hello Athena
@@AthenaPOfficial Athena!! so glad to see you’re back and glad you liked the performance!! 🥳🫶🏼
I’m not into Monster High or K-Pop but those two things in combination sound kinda fun, low-key. I’ll join in just to try 😂
Reminds me of the 90s, the era of grunge and irony, where showing any enthusiasm was so uncool. I feel like Millennials saved us from this with their cheerful, earnest culture but now we're heading back in that sad direction!
Unfortunately there was a lot of this among millenials online too
Gen X def had this going on
Millennials were even worse. Chill is better than actively judgemental.
I remember when we made being a nerd cool 😔 being in my 20s in the 2010s was so fun.
I am 40 years old. I was a Mall Goth. I liked smutty fantasy starting with dragonriders of Pern. Reading fantasty was not "cool" when I was young, it was a hide your books kind of thing.
Make 'em cringe. You will not regret it when you are old. You WILL regret all the phases you went through trying to "fit in" or as you kids call it "be socially acceptable". I applaud your tufting skill, your costumes, your kpop dance.
This culture so strongly bashes anyone who doesn’t conform, and it’s fucked. I thought culture had improved after those 90s talk shows that just mocked alt kids for thirty minutes straight, but it’s still here, just more subtle. As someone who prefers straight-up honesty, that makes the sly little comments even more infuriating to deal with.
Oh my god, and “yapping”? I watched a video essay once, and someone had commented a really well-thought out paragraph about the topic. And some wacko just replies, “im not reading all that yapping”. Ok? Then don’t read it. Don’t blame other people for your laziness.
I cannot stress just how much I detest the “it’s not that deep” mentality. It is that deep. It’s always that deep, bro. Life isn’t a shallow puddle to step in, it’s a vast and ineffable ocean.
Finally: the “crab in a bucket” analogy is so good. There were quite a few years where I let the other crabs pull me all the way to the bottom of a bucket and step on me. I don’t do that anymore because, quite simply: the bottom of the bucket is boring as hell.
Thanks for the video, great stuff. Also, Monster High rules 👹👹
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yeah it’s good to prioritize self expression and self autonomy, as someone who’s always been anti-conformist, it’s best for people to be open about their individuality no matter what. people’s actions are projections of themselves so it’s best to let asshat lazy ppl do their own thing and solely focus on those who’d listen to you. as for the crabs in the bucket saying yeah i relate with you on that, choosing to prioritize my well-being was the best choice i’ve made
oh my gooood I absolutely hate the "it's not that deep" mindset too. You don't like to think too hard about things, ok, but don't group the rest of us with you. For some of us, looking deep into things is not tiring but actually the way we enjoy stuff a lot of the time!
yessss!! it’s always deep!! “Life isn’t a shallow puddle to step in, it’s a vast and ineffable ocean.” ❤️❤️❤️
Yessssss, we still have millions of people who make fun of other people because they have dyed hair.
I’m in highschool right now, I FEEL THIS SO BADDD!! I’ve been made fun of the fact I want to learn new stuff and I’m like, how the hell do you think people get good at something?
Keep being you, wanting to learn is such a helpful trait to have
Any advice on how to be less anxious about what people think of you 😖
the zoomers are cooked. sorry.
They aren't it's mainly just edgy teenage boys I see online acting like this ngl@@zix1257
@@Sneha-kd6lq keep being you even if it makes you anxious. the people that like you and matter will not care. it gets easier to care less through time.
10:02 "Get a hobby, nerd out over something, make a cosplay, do the dance, leave the bucket." That's an amazing quote and I'm adding it to my quote book!!
@@Lycaon1765 🥹🫶🏼
Okay, now I want a quote book
The new ways social media fucks up younger generations never cease to surprise me.
Hobbys that cant be monetized online (or that you wont monetize bc you do it just for fun) are treated as a waste of time.
This was hard to watch as someone who’s basically been one of those bullies. I don’t have any distinct memories of decrying someone for niche interests verbally but I’ve always felt jealous of people who honed any sort of skill or craft since I was too sloppy and addicted to bother caring. I truly believed having extracurriculars and doing anything to avoid sucking up to adults was futile.
Honestly, I’ve only realized this because it’s finally backfired on me. I don’t know how long it’ll take to stop feeling so bitter over the opportunities for friendship I’ve wasted.
I hope you find the craft, skill, or passion that calls to you ❤
These things wouldn't be so pervasive if they weren't so normalised. I think it's important to recognise your role, but don't take on all the responsibility for yourself. You were raised in a culture which trains you to act this way, we all were, and I don't think anybody can entirely exempt themselves. The important thing is that you have the self awareness now to do better in the future. That's the first, often the hardest, step.
I've been getting into clowns lately. Trying to learn how to juggle. Bought cheap juggling balls, then found more premium ones. Buying custom clown clothes off Etsy. Have bought multiple clown horns, lost one in the forest. Got a slide whistle. I don't know how or why but by god it means something.
find someone more interesting than you in a room i dare you
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"Lost one in the forest."
I have questions.
social media users may call you a clown, but what if you actually are a real clown? what then? "oh you're a normal person haha loser" ??? lmao you're immune!
May i ask you... How the fucking hell did you loose a horn on a forest?
Im definitely glad this is being pointed out. As an autistic person, ive never been able to hide my "cringe". Even through the regular masking, my hyperfixations and obsessions always peeked through. Its only now that im realizing its okay to like what i like and be cringe about it. I just hate that it came during a time where cringe culture is peeking its little head up.
Cringe culture is only punching down. Its almost always aimed at autistic people and lgbtq people and POC.
Im so happy that theres people on the main sides of the internet talking about this.
I relate so much to this. Some people will *love* it when you’re a little weird, but as soon as you’re “too weird” you’re kicked to the curb.
I’ve always been an earnest and unconventional person. I also don’t do social things that don’t make sense to me (e.g. saying “how are you?” but not actually caring how you are). As a result, most people I tried to befriend in my preteen/early teen years straight-up did not like me. I was apparently “immature and childish” for… smiling a lot, laughing at the teachers’ jokes, and openly enjoying my hobbies??? Their loss.
It’s insane that there are so many people who have been outcast like me, just for enjoying their life. On the bright side, that means us outcasts can join together for the *_ULTIMATE FRIENDSHIP_* (dun dun dunnnn).
@@chellivision not autistic, but real. I used to be so sociable and outgoing as a child, but then I got made fun for just being happy in middle school and now I genuinely loathe talking to people to the point I feel pain from being too overwhelmed :P
yeah I get it. I ditched a long time friend because as soon as she started to work she become this Ebenezer Scrooge type of person who won't tolerate anything too extraordinary to be mundane. My special interest is the gothic, campy vampires, costume design and such. She really made me feel ashamed for being a spoonful too passionate about what I do in my free time. We broke up on valentine's day this year, I haven't heard of her ever since. My mental health has never been so good and I found new friends to talk to
I feel this. I’m autistic as well and no matter how hard I try to fit in, I’ll always be “weird.”
This has nothing to do with lgbt though?
From my experience it’s cringe to have an interest in anything that isn’t acceptable (being boring I guess) or having an intense interest and really enjoy it (*cough* common in neurodivergent people who are basically automatically hated by neurotypical people *cough*)
that part. there’s only a few “acceptable hobbies” that NT have deemed as ok for adults to have. but don’t you dare get too passionate about them because it’s “childish and cringe” 🙄 idk what happened to our world and why people over the age of 15 are expected to behave like soulless husks.
i saw a post on reddit a while back where this person shared a photo of their work desk. it was filled with drawings, art, anime stuff, some figurines, etc. just very fun and cool. at first the feedback was positive, but after a while they started receiving so much hate. people were so rude and saying absolutely horrible things to that person. they ended up having to delete the post because they received so much hate over simply having decorations on their desk. i also received a ton of hate for trying to defend them. so weird and sad
yupp the "overzealous passion" i described is almost always a neurodivergent special interest or neurotypical people scared of being grouped in with them 😭
I feel like America Psycho called this out, even if the director and author weren’t thinking of it that exact way. Look at scenes like the business card scene. Take note of the vapid things Patrick Bateman and his coworkers obsess over.
Honestly this has kind of always been a thing, it's why the internet even got popular in the first place, cus it was a haven for outcasts to "meet" and discuss their interests. Nowadays it's essentially become a digital town square and everyone is now here, even those who still judge others for their interests
Cringe culture was created with ableism at its core and no one will convince me otherwise.
felt this as a person with ADHD, having to constantly underplay my interests and hyperfixations can be so exhausting, but i’ve just decided to try and stop caring! plus i’ve found some really awesome friends who don’t make me feel bad for liking the things i like more than a “normal” amount
i hate that hobbies and personal interests are being turned into performance art for social approval. i want to do those things for my own fulfillment, not for someone else's approval.
so what if i find someone else's interests embarrassing? that's a me problem. why should they care what i think, if i don't get their interests? and how dare i try and shame them into caring what i think.
watching social commentary videos is so insane as an autistic person. the more i hear allistic people describe how they experience the world the more i wonder how people keep themselves going. avoiding things i enjoy is something i only do when i'm in a horrible place mentally, so from my perspective this really feels like a culture of genuine self-hatred. everyone is acting like i did when i was an emo middle schooler with negative self esteem and they're trying to act like that's cool. you are not cool for emotionally regressing. to be cringe is to be free
right, like how can you stand living like this? how can you stand having no true joy in your life? or connections? whats the point, success? approval? its so sad
real, like I can lie about my interests to strangers all day, awkwardly saying "yeah I like hiphop... rnb... but from the east, kind of...", but I can't imagine actually giving up the NCT hyperfixation I've had for two and a half years just for some people's approval and percieved masculinity. I'd be miserable! lol (also I literally got made fun of by some girls on halloween for having a halloween costume. like wtf.)
Not going to lie as an autistic person I feel you. What do you mean you don’t want to love something so much you squeal and jump in joy at the thought of it? What do you mean you want to stop liking things just so others can like you and be this boring bland soup of humans
@@LiterallyInklingGirlDIB PFP SPOTTED X3 !!!!!!
dude its so annoying whenever i like something and am ridiculed for it, then a while later its all over social media and is trendy now... like.. WHAT??
Yeah, so, actual comment now, I'm having this exact problem but like with my core friend group, it is so weird because it wasn't like this before and and yeah, none of my co-workers are "nerding out" about anything or having any personality or this culture of calling anyone who is openly talking about anything a yapper. This emotionless sarcasm and a need for irony everywhere is so annoying. When did we stop being humans?
I've been finding myself talking about things that are important to me and then a friend, a really good friend, just starts like trying to tell me to talk less because it's "too much words" and i need to stop yapping. It is so sad that we live in an age where we can't express ourselves these days.
Really sad to have to isolate and only communicate with certain people because there is no one else that is "normal" anymore...
This is a very annoying subject to me. Sorry for posting a wall of text but this is such an important topic
ahhh you're making me want to make a part 2... I absolutely hate how everything has to be covered in a thick layer of irony or nonchalance-- like everything has to be a joke or "not that serious"
🙏 need to fix this generation@@doothi
Keep talking and being passionate. I hope you find better friends if they're not gonna improve.
Ngl your friend sounds like a pos, i think youd be better off without them
I'll be yapping always and forever and I can't be stopped
To be cringe is to be free
To be edgy is to live authentically
But tbh as a furry I'm probably in an echo chamber outside of the metaphorical bucket especially since alot of the non-furry creators I follow are need and Fandom related in some way so I genuinely did not know my own generation was reviving cringe culture like why???
But yeah, be cringe and be free. Be exciting and weird. Do what Sonic the Hedgehog would do! Do you think Sonic would go around bullying people for having fun? I don't think so! That's no good!
Also, as someone who does art and music and coding and writing all at once I would like to nominate myself as the CEO King of Doing too much...
Or maybe... I'm not doing enough...
nah u are doing it right. i have furry friends too and they are very happy living their little niche life. theres nothing wrong with not fitting in :) none of us really 'fit in' anyways!@
You are living the dream! I'm spiritual fictionkin along with my husband, and it's similar in Doing Too Much: Tarot, astrology, magickal herbalism, baking, sewing, interior design, crochet, drawing, singing...thinking about compiling a cookbook (a 1950s vintage take on Marvel inspired recipes). I wish you the very best in all your endeavors!
Edgies aren't authentic, they're just patethic lame idiots who don't want to look inside and attack the outside.
Yesterday in my English class I made an argument about a satire piece we read and the rest of the comments were just people rephrasing the things I already said, agreeing with me, but I still got eye rolls when I made the argument. I think their issue was genuinely that I not only took the time to do the reading but also that I thought about it. This is university. Everyone in the room not only chose to be there but also had to pay to be there. Apparently it’s cringe to participate in the education you’re probably going into debt for? I mean I’m going to get my money’s worth if it costs me a social life so I’m not letting it get to me but I wasn’t expecting that this sort of thing would follow me into university.
Also autism I might be getting mocked for more than just caring but I do genuinely think it’s largely for caring.
Outside of classes my actual friends are pretty much universally autistic/ADHD so sometimes it’s kind of a jump scare that neurotypicals are out there pretending life’s better if you act like nothing matters. To go from enjoying your best bud’s fourty minute ramble about historical filmmaking technology to having someone give an "oh. okay" when you slide in a relevant fun fact then start making mean comments about someone who isn’t im the room is wild.
i dont think being mean necessarily has to do with being neurotypical,
0:15 no but genuinely, where does yapping come from? All the time I was on the internet, I never heard it and in the last year it suddenly came up
Like how a young dog will yap endlessly.
Of course, to the human ear, it's yapping is meaningless and needlessly shrill. Just another way of saying what someone is talking about is useless to you and has no real value. Is somewhat irrelevant. It's Wild how this obviously demeaning phase is being used so casually by gen z 😬
Like being rude is the default now. If I commented this on Instagram, I'd no doubt get an immediate." Nobody's reading all that💀"
I don't think it was one person saying it that made it pop off tho. Like with demure.
I genuinely think it's just another common phrase you can add in to any sentence to be disparaging so it had an uptick just because it's so social okay now to be self-deprecating and talk mean. Online anyways
it was a term created by people who aren’t willing to listen to people or read their opinions. basically, lazy close minded people
its aave but it bets misused by suburban white kids lol
Yapping is an old word used from around the 1940s. It's just one of those words that's popped back in popularity, along with things like "sus" and "snack".
for me, i use the 'yappinator' label PROUDLY, and so do my friends. we are yappers and we are proud.
i agree a lot with this video, people are afraid to interact deeply with art or hobbies.
the only time yapping actually bothers me is when people are drawing out small talk as an excuse to continue the conversation when they said goodbye 30 minutes ago, otherwise known as the midwestern goodbye
and even that is preferable to interacting with people that have 0 hobbies
@@mintykiwi exactly! only speak when you have something to say, but even if its just random unnessecary small talk its better than someone who's entirely boring.
oh man I'm yappinator 1000 over here
Yeah I WILL talk about Thing I Really Like A Lot and NOONE shall stop me!
i was born to yap and i am proud of that
Remember this mantra: "I may be cringe but you're mean and that's worse!"
oh this is good haha
As an aging millenial, this is the first time something has got into my recommendeds where I can fully feel it being aimed at the generation after me. "Doing too much" was not in the lingo when I was growing up, and it made me think back on what it was like being a teenager a little over a decade ago. I was in school right on the tipping point of "nerd culture" going mainstream, right as the MCU was starting up and gaming was becoming the totally normal thing that all teenage boys did. The way I got by back then, the way I get by now, and how I would advise young folks to get by now, is to really not give a shit what other people think of you. It's a vital survival skill that stops you from wasting all your life being nobody.
I've since found out I'm neurodivergent and not caring about stranger's opinions of me comes much easier than it does for most people, but I really can't recommend it enough. Don't let how people are gonna look at you on the street stop you from dressing and styling yourself in the way that makes you happy. You're never gonna see them again and they don't matter. Don't let random dipshits on the internet stop you from making things that bring you joy and showing them to people. What have they ever done for you that you're doing them the favour of listening to them whine?
I could go on, but I've already spent a lot of words to basically thumbs up what this video was already saying. Do what makes you happy and fuck em if they don't like it.
its very refreshing how slow paced you take your videos, especially for a commentary channel
it feels like theyre so often packed with music and jokes and quick paced coments and it just makes it so unbearable to listen to now
like i can feel my attention span wittling away with stuff like that
and with yours it just felt peaceful
and geniunely inciteful
I have so many hobbies lowkey this video is giving me a power trip and reminding me how much better I am because of my childlike whimsy😭
never let the whimsy die 🥹
😬 a desire for power, and considering one's self to be superior to others... Hmmmm
i know its easy but seeing ppl struggling w shame and going 'wow im so much better than them' is how we get into these problems in the first place
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In school I was bullied and avoided for being the weird kid. I even had someone tell me I gave "school shooter" vibes once just because I barely talked to anyone.
In college my friends tell me that they love me for being one of the most genuine, soulful people around.
Please be yourself, for the love of god. Don't be afraid to stand out.
Can’t wait to get into college and make friends after not having friends in high school HAHAHA
Been there. Putting myself out there is painful but I’m slowly drawing people to me that care just as much as I do.
Yeah it's both a blessing and a curse that high school mixes in people from all walks of life, makes it pure rng with decent chances of being seen as weird, getting into a college and degree fit for one's nature makes it much easier to find like-minded individuals
I was the quiet kid too and heard comments from teachers about "the quiet ones". I was being abused at home.
ive always been bullied, now i am an artist and i’m happy. you can be the sweetest peach in the tree but some people just don’t like peaches
i think a big issue is that a lot of kids are not pushed to develop a personality or hobbies. they're left alone with an ipad/iphone to raise them. of course if your eyes are glued to a screen 24-7 you won't be able to develop any personality. kids need to be put into activities and clubs, sent to volunteer, gifted craft kits so they can learn new skills.
ooooh potential part two topic?? 👀
I was pushed into that stuff and still ended up kinda bland and generic bc I just wanted to go back to playing video games or watching youtube :P never really found any hobbies that didn’t just feel like a chore to me
(Though I do keep meaning to try getting into board games or ttrpgs maybe? I’m kinda too shy and socially anxious though and I feel like I wouldn’t have the patience for them… idk)
y’all afraid of being corny but luckily for me I was born on the cob!!!!!!!!
this is so funny 😭
What you described as "chill" and "detached" is just apathy.
"Its not that serious," "caring/passion is cringe" "humbling each other" that's all apathy mixed with ego tripping/power dynamics. Apathy is uncool, sad and pathetic. Passion is what will save us, killing our hearts is what will destroy us.
My passion is impenetrable, no one will be able to dissuade me from it, because my passion is my love, my authenticity, my personhood. I would never forsake that.
Just apathy, tally hall reference
Dogs that got hit will bark
@@dayton9136 Lol its not.
@@dayton9136 Being "chill" and being apathetic are two VERY different things. What they're saying here is that these people who are trying to portray themselves as "chill" are not actually chill, but apathetic. Which is a dangerous thing to be, for yourself and for people around you.
"Chill" is being used by some people to describe a very sad, bitter, and mentally unwell state of being. Because to admit it's sad is not ~cool and ironic~ enough, it's too sincere and vulnerable- and they want to shy away from it. So they call it "being chill"
Like lol, what part of these "chill" people ragging on the existence of hobbies ACTUALLY looks chill to you?
Of course there's nothing wrong with being chill if that's really what it is. (not to mention hobbies can be extremely chill??)
as a teenager rn i see it as a genuine dislike for ppl enjoying themselves. some of the hobbies i have have been literal years of honing my skill. it’s so disheartening that some ppl really think it’s cool to spread rhetoric that makes ppl like me feel ashamed abt their interests.
for the longest time i wouldn’t actually talk to ppl abt my hobbies bc i was scared of being judged or i guess rejected. all of my interests are personal to me and ppl are missing that the point of a hobby is to engage with something on a deeper level. it all comes back to a lack of enjoyment and happiness for life . everyone is so busy worrying abt what “cool” thing is trending they forget to be a genuine human being.
TL;DR ppl are sad so they project onto ppl enjoying themselves
edit: to anyone who’s curious abt my hobbies: i can play clarinet, saxophone, ukulele guitar and bass guitar (i am a bit rusty on some of these.) i also draw, crochet and read whenever i have time.
when i was smaller, i mainly was an artsy well-read kid, which ppl my age weren’t as interested in. so i was always weird and never had many friends i could to abt my interests. so it gotten better in some ways but i can still feel the mean energy from these influencers same as the kids who never talked to me.
be as cringe as u want, you WILL find ur ppl eventually. just be patient. live how you want to. don’t let some invisible voice in ur head or a miserable person online tell u otherwise. ENJOY URSELF!!
Yup, I’ve always had a bunch of hobbies and by the time i was in my 30s it was great seeing someone who made fun of me, buying a ticket to see my band which led to my local access show etc…. They made fun of me but now paid to see me be myself. We’re the ones who are going to enjoy life because we don’t try to pull people down. I’m now 40 and still collecting hobbies. I’ll never stop being “cringe”.
The only thing missing from this comment is you telling us about your hobby!! 😊
@ i wasn’t sure if anyone would be interested!
i’ve been drawing for at least ten years, i’ve been crocheting for a few and i can play a handful of instruments (guitar/bass, ukulele, clarinet, saxophone.) i was in band for 3 years but i’m mainly focusing on guitar and bass.
i’ve also been reading since i was small, so when i was younger, i was pretty isolated bc i never knew anyone who’d read for fun. hence my previous comment. thank u for ur interest, it makes me happy!!
THANK YOU. I was bullied so much for being “cringe” and loving my favorite band- Set It Off. I was always self conscious when I performed these songs due to it, but I still persisted. Don’t be shamed out of your hobbies- you are great at them. To be cringe is to be free.
persisting past the shame is the only way to achieve ART 😩 TYSM i'm glad you liked the video!
set it off mention!!! i love them too!!!
What is that phenomenon where once you learn about or discover something new, you start seeing it everywhere?? I never heard of Set It Off until a few weeks ago, and I love some of their songs, they’ve been on repeat. It feels surreal to casually come across a mention of it in an unrelated TH-cam comment section now, only after just discovering them and never seeing them mentioned before
@@mahimahsan6059 @asinglefrenchfry
Yeah lol, huge set it off fan here, I often make art of them too
Omg I love that band too!!
My stepdad unironically calls things cringe all the time despite the fact he has hobbies most would consider “cringe” like dnd he has sessions with his friends every weekend he even collects and hand paints miniatures and he’s good at it but it’s just u can tell that he’s sorta ashamed of his hobbies cause he didn’t even mention dnd to my mom when they were dating until he invited her to his house and she saw his collection it’s just it makes me sad you know like god forbid he have a hobby I guess to this day my mom wants nothing to do with his dnd stuff
So I'm an elder millennial and I feel like this isn't just a Gen Z problem; if anything, I think Gen Z has reached this point because earlier generations have, either accidentally or on purpose, been stamping down on the things that bring us joy for a long time and it's become ingrained. I grew up hearing my dad talking about "putting away childish things" in response to how I never stopped loving animation or video games. I was bullied at school for having nerdy and/or non-feminine hobbies and interests. Millennials lived through dire economic circumstances that meant we couldn't really enjoy our childhoods when we had them, but the spectre of "Being An Adult" still lingers and is reinforced by our peers who seem to have bought into this sad, beige idea of being "normal", resulting in those of us who now *can* afford to indulge our youthful interests being derided on all sides as being, well, "cringe".
To quote George Bernard Shaw: "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing". And from CS Lewis: "When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty, I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." You don't get art and music and creativity without embracing play. It's a shame that people seem so keen to run away from that, especially since we need those things so deeply these days.
The CS Lewis quote works so well! It’s also interesting how fairy tales, children’s stories, and animated movies which are seen as “childish” are all made by adults. If they enjoyed any book or movie they should thank the creative people behind them rather than trash their hobbies and passions.
i’m 20 now and i’m in my final year of university, i studied abroad in france and then spent 4 months working in canada (i’m from england) and those experiences have been so freeing for me. being physically removed from my normal setting and living alone on another continent. it’s crazy you don’t realise the social pressure on yourself until you go through periods where you can remove it. i no longer care if people think i’m cringe for obsessing over learning french or travelling because they’re the ones missing out from my perspective. people still try and it sucks but the older you get, the more embarrassing it is to dog on others for harmless interests.
As a fellow French learner who has been called cringe over my “obsessive” interest in French history a lot, I wish you luck.
Insane that anyone could think about calling someone cringe for learning a second language. Not only is it one of the most intellectually impressive feats one can achieve as an adult, it's also one of the most fulfilling, opening the doors to a whole world of new cultural possibilities.
I read this comment before watching the video and came back to it after Doothi mentioned learning Japanese because of anime since... that's exactly what I did. Started learning the basics when I was around 12, did some more formal study in my university years and after graduating I spent two months in Japan. Next year will mark 10 years since that trip and I still think about it every day. I'm not quite as obsessed with Japan as I used to be but it's still a deep, long-lasting influence on my life that I'll probably carry with me to my grave. To think people would deny themselves such an experience because they think it's "cringe" is just so sad.
you have no idea how much inner strength it took to put up Kpop posters on my wall due to fighting my own inner cringe. I was like "What if I have people over and they see them?"... like it was bad to openly display things that I paid for?? Having hobbies is so underrated and overlooked, and its now considered "brave" to outwardly enjoy things. Thanks for another Doothi banger as usual.
That’s was me with anime posters but now idc cuz that’s MY space and whoever doesn’t like it can leave
having interests and hobbies are as human as breathing too. no doubt some nobles in the 1800s were putting up cool paintings they bought. it’s cool to see people show their support for self expression and self autonomy, those two are things that society desperately need to cherish
This is terrifying, as a not gen z, please I'm begging you, internalize that doing things is good and healthy. This is what keeps you going in life and might even open career paths.
Can't relate. Me and the fellas been ballin our whole lives. Even before the ball renaissance of 2012. We TOO personable in these streets. My homeboys be doing spoken word poetry about police oppression whilst making they own gumdrops on the stove like a Walter Wonka. Lames can't look down on what we do cuz we always on top.
Non-sequitur that rug is real nice.
In the clurb we all fam
straight fire
walter wonka is crazy
Bro is spiting straight flames
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS, it's sooooo sad!!!!! The only valid hobbies nowadays are "gym" and "hanging out with friends" or even "netflix"!!!!!! Like are you fucking serious I can't hear it anymore. And I tell people I do hip hop dance and parkour and they make me feel like thats SOOO niche and special like WHAT? When did dance become a nerdy/unusual hobby? It makes me crazy sad and I'm relieved at least I'm not the only one who feels like that
and ANY song i turn on that's not in the latest tiktok-charts people are like "oh, INTERESTING taste in music!!" BRO!!!!! what!!!!!
watching this as someone who is now 30 years old, and has a very loving and accepting social circle, im kind of surprised that this is what people outside of my bubble are talking about….like damn……
back in my day, a belief system became popular that helped with these kinds of things a lot, and that was: “well, they’re not hurting anybody.” when you talked about where being a kpop fan becomes ‘too much,’ and overzealous, i thought about kpop stans on twitter that harass people…that’s where i would say that it’s too much, because then that is causing harm to others. but doing dances with your friends and having fun is definitely not the same thing!
idk the online culture of finding ANY reason possible to tear into someone is exhausting to me, but could be really harmful to younger people or people who are more insecure. but try to remember that it’s not real. these opinions are much less meaningful than sharing your heart with people who care about you.
with AI taking over everything, artistic performances included, i feel it is *crucial* that WE keep doing things ourselves, we have to keep writing, keep drawing, keep nerding out about our little niche interests
I 100 million percent agree with you ❤
I remember working in a summer camp and one of the kids there was really into trains. Like he had a YT channel about trains. When we did an ice breaker game his hobby came up and somebody said he had no life in response. He just answered with "At least I do something I like, fortnite kid."
That kid is my hero to this day.
Dang, that hurt me and I don't even play Fortnite 🤣
woah you met the "I like trains" kid, he's a legend
YOOOOOOOOOOOOO STRAIGHT UP INCINERATED THAT HATER, GO TRAIN KID :D
This reminds me of my Meta Runner fanfiction.
For context I interpreted the world of Meta Runner as a future ruled over by the Nerd Heirachy, basically pro gamers are at the top and train nerds are at the bottom.
I had an alternate timeline where when the last of the resistance had to run away after one of them was framed for murder, they took refuge just outside the city in a model railway club in a dis-used train station/station masters office.
The world of gamers was fought with drama but here were the railfans; separate but content with each others company and the model train set they shared.
The "you have no life" thing has made me angry for years. They DO, in fact, have a life, but because it's not a life you personally would like you think that invalidates it because you're the protagonist of life. It's such a self-centered yet un-self-aware thing to say
I never encountered this kind of person, but I don't doubt that they exist. I've always been the "weird kid" (aka the autistic kid) so I was never really that conscious of what people thought of as "cringe". I do what I like and I'm passionate about it! I really don't think it's a stretch to attribute at least a small chunk of this hatred of nerds/yappers/whatever to ableism and just straight up bullying. It's mean and weird.
Moonsetter hs
@@Faunadudenepeta with the mlg glasses
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@@ville-c4u me
As a genuine old (40+) i just want you to know that this IS cyclical, so it's unfortunate that your teen years are coming in a "jaded" cultural phase, but WE'RE the ones who created that expectation and YOU'RE the ones making it cool to be fun again!
I get it. It's giving early 20s, pretending I don't care what people think of me while really really caring what people think. Elder genz here, all my friends are very close to 30 we all rock climb, some rum half marathons, loads of us got back into Warhammer, I bought a Motorbike. Yes we're a meme. No one cares. They're all preoccupied with their own lives and self image.
So do the nerdy thing, go out there and talk too much. If they're actually your friend they owe you to at least hear you out.
imo, that's the beauty of being in our 30's. we're just living our lives and don't care that much about someone else's opinion.
I hope younger generations will grow to that phase without the dread of being themselves.
@@gelenamurenaI’m 21 and I’m trying to grow out of it but it takes years, I really only adopted this mindset when I was 17 or 18. I still see some of my friends trapped in this cycle and I hope to encourage them because it’s just sad to see.
You must kill the part of yourself that cringes.
Perhaps it's because I'm a Tumblr user, but I realised a few years ago that getting the fuck over yourself and ignoring those that cringe at you is the only way to be happy. Being passionately interested in something is not bad. It's not wrong. The only time fandom crosses over into being such is where it starts to be actually harmful (and no, making you cringe is not harmful).
Amateurishness (I prefer this term to mediocrity) is the spice of life. I've become absolutely steeped in the folk scene in my country, which is a majority amateur scene. It's fabulous. I started performing, even, because I found out I could actually hold a tune. I've wanted to sing for years, since I was a little girl.
Partially it was social pressure holding me back, but partially (and you don't touch upon this too much) it was the mistaken belief that to do something and do it publically, you have to be highly skilled. This isn't true. There's a base level of skill, sure, but you don't need to be perfect. Anyone that derides you for not being so is the kind of person who doesn't start for fear of not being perfect, and anyone like that is not someone you want to be.
So go, be cringe and be merry. You'll be happier.
As a sidenote, this isn't new to gen z. Millennials had that whole "ironically" phase when they were in their 20s. They grew out of it and gave us Disney adults and other such "cringe" people. We will too.
Being a tumblr user definitely helps. The community is so different from Tik Tok.
someday all social media except tumblr will violently explode
not to mention that being passionate and creative is part of the basis of what makes us human. the Italian Renaissance happened because of people’s love for the arts and their passionate driven ideas of creating a better life. people’s actions are reflections of themselves so it’s best to not take anything personally and continuing to express yourself. self autonomy is really important so i’m glad to see others agree with me on this
It says magnitudes more about the one who cringes than the object allegedly cringed at. Disgust comes from mental processes predicated on erroneous premises rooted in shame, which always comes down to manipulation.
@@NickiRusin or become chill with cringe
A few months ago I got into a hobby that's widely considered cringe (fursuit making - something like a quarter done with my first) and it hasn't caused any problems for me because I don't really use social media.
My friends and family know. They think it's cool I'm trying a new hobby and learning to sew.
The only social media I use is Discord, where I'm part of three servers (small setver with friends, big server about a game I like, big server about fursuit making) and I share about this hobby with other people who have the same hobby.
I have yet to get made fun of for my cringe hobby.
Woah that’s so cool! I look up to fursuit makers, as they are skilled and talented!
@RaidenShogun.. Some of them sure are! Of course I'm just starting out and I'm not there yet, but the one piece I've fully completed so far (the paws) came out a way that I'm happy with :)
Making lots of mistakes, out of a dozen mistakes in the paws alone only one of them is visible on the final result though (one of the claws is at a way weird angle). Faux fur is a very forgiving material, the fur does a great job covering most mistakes made with the backing.
I'm glad you brought up anime cause it's definitely one of the "weird" hobbies that is starting to get kinda cool but not too cool. It use to be seen as hella "cringe" pre 2016 and it's so interesting how it use to be cringier to cosplay as characters or watch anime(but if the anime you like is weird or ur too passionate or don't meet beauty standards then you're still cringe to a lot of ppl sadly). I remember someone back then made fun of me for having a fucking jjba manga and flash forward to it being more normalized to like anime and they watched all of one piece. Like i'm glad you're letting yourself like that now, but damn it says a lot about how much having a socially acceptable hobby changes how people treat you even if they might actually like the hobby once they pick it up when it's normal enough for them to try.
If it weren't for people having passions, other people wouldn't get inspired to try new things. My best friend shared a lot of their favorite video games with me and would talk a lot to me about all the intricacies in the games and it inspired me to start critically analyzing the media i consumed and seeing all the hidden details that makes the art so good. They literally gave me media literacy :'). And now i'm a fucking artist aspiring to work in animation(also cause of anime cause I started drawing glad i'm not the only one) so, people should want to talk to people with hobbies, cause you never know if it'll make you wanna pick up something similar or just hell hearing your friend happy about something it makes me smile hearing people talk about things they are interested in. Why would anyone want to ruin that happiness??
Anyways thank you sm for this video I'm glad it showed up in the recommended. I am officially a Doothi sub cause ur editing, organization of thoughts, and just vibes are what youtube needs right now.
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@@ville-c4u who asked for your comment, normie
I'm a little older than most of the viewers here, and in the early and mid 2000s I used to get publically and violently bullied for liking anime, or as they called it back then, gay Chinese cartoons. People would look at me like I was a pest when I would talk about anime. And nowadays I walk down the street and I see coke using giant anime mascots on the sides of busses to advertise and anime movies in my local theater and I feel like I'm being gaslit about my childhood. Now it's cool. Like I'm glad people don't get bullied about it anymore, but I feel like I'm going crazy.
@@alejandrorivas4585What’s worse is that if you try to speak about this how people will tell you the real reason why you got bullied was because you were naruto running in the halls or being a creep
@@ashyy6819 dog I was way too shy to even consider naruto running
As a guy who grew up in a working-class household that couldn’t afford hobbies, it’s been therapeutic taking up interests now that I can afford them as an adult. I collect vinyl records, buy myself Lego sets, take creative art classes like learning how to build neon signs, and even have a couple of pet projects at home. People can say whatever they want about my hobbies, but the experience has been liberating and for every hater who has ever talked shit, there have been many more admiring my interests and asking for advice on how to pursue them themselves.
me and my friends use both "yapping" and a "nerd," as positive terms to explain happily talking/being really invested in something:)
being ashamed of your interests is basically missing out on life. I prefer doing all of those things that I like even if anyone could consider it cringy instead of growing old and regretting that I didn't have any fun experiences
On the one hand, i do see this as a very valid critique and observation. On the other hand, i think this is today's equivalent of a "counter culture". If being boring and "chill" is the norm, then being cringe and "too much" is the new emo, the new gothic, the new punk...you get me.
I have recently be thinking about how nowadays there are no any subcultures anymore. Everyone thinks about souless arsthetics. But this discourse makes me think that maybe the "new" subculture has not a defined aesthetic or recognizable look, and its more about being able to expose yourself, being yourself and enjoying yourself without feeling shame about it.
I think its a good counter culture movement, to start being more real, more "cringe". People who have been part of a subculture or counter culture have always been deemed as nerd, weird, cringe, etc...
As you said, that must mean someone has a personality...
Thats such a good point wth
that's a good counterculture to be in tbh
very smart analysis
On point! When the culture itself gets wacky, the (actual) counterculture has to get ever so much wackier that... it becomes normal?..
Subversion of subversion is reconstruction. In the era of postirony, to be a punk is to be sincere.
counterculture of just being honest
I'm a musician, and something I've noticed is that so many musicians are scared to show confidence on stage out of fear of being made fun of. There's this one guy in my music course who gives every performance his all and It's honestly so refreshing to see somebody perform without any fear of judgement. I once saw a video of this girl singing a Melanie Martinez song, she was getting really into it but instead of people praising her they were making fun of her. I feel like we live in a world where you're allowed to be passionate about something but only in a way that others have been passionate about them before (socially acceptable) even though that somewhat goes against passion's true meaning.
Btw I loved this video :)) I found your channel from your last video and love your takes on things and video editing style (also the carpets are fire)
This felt like a warm hug and someone telling me its cool to be uncool
Im a huge hobbyist, and haven't experienced any negative reactions to talking about what I care about since I developed the social skills to recognize when its right to talk about and when its the time to stop.
Not outright denying the experiences communicated in this video, but I do think some people who get extra focused on their personal interest can allow social stuff to fall to the wayside, which leads to maladaptive behaviors when they have social interactions.
People with clinical ASD are cool obv, that kinda learning can potentially never come, but that represents a very small percentage of the population.
proud to write fanfiction self inserts, to watch shoji anime, to love miku, and to be obsessed with disney channel original movies
y/n fics are my bedtime story and hsm 2 is genuinely a masterpiece no one can change me 😫
Same with the fanfiction and self inserts, for a long time I used to think it was cringe, especially historical RPF. Then one day I woke up with a cool idea and wrote an entire fic, in that moment I didn’t really feel “cringe” I just felt so passionate about my work. Then I realized RPF is basically the same as historical fiction which is (mostly) viewed as normal and now I’ve learned to embrace myself and get over the part of me that cringes.
@@doothi Same and YES
fanfiction is the realest thing in the world🙏
X reader for life 🙏😛
I feel like this is a huge red flag for rising anti-intellectualism and a warning sign that good quality information is about to be re-privatized
Also this reminds me of how people don’t like overt marketing anymore so it’s become more subtle-which convinces people that more overt methods are “scammy” even though it’s often because people just… don’t know the more advanced manipulative methods that professional marketers use.
Could you please elaborate on what you mean by re-privatization of knowledge?
@ I mean gatekept in a general sense. The actual word I was looking for was “paywalled” but I figured re-privatized was close enough, since making correct information public was the work of several centuries (also I forgot the word paywall). I already see people argue that people who don’t have access to university libraries or academic papers deserve the common misinformation floating around the internet. I’ve even seen influencers who spread oversimplified or misinformation arguing they should get paid for spreading bad information to the public and if the masses don’t like it they should become better educated. Which is just an argument that post secondary school (universities and colleges) should take the place in high school (since people fought for high school to teach critical thinking, civics, and various kinds of literacy [textile, financial, information, media, scientific are the ones that come to mind but I know there are more]). And high school is no longer able to teach those skills because class sizes are too big (preventing children from learning, requiring more and more repetition of the same information), too underfunded, and too focused on test scores instead of logic or self-discipline (ie, not how much information you can memorize, but how well you can locate and understand information you need).
Additionally you lose access to most good information once your affiliation with academia is gone because academic journals and books are far too expensive to buy outright (deliberately so).
Getting rid of public access to education and resources is a relaunch of class stratification since if schools don’t teach you, say, financial literacy, and your parents don’t know it, odds are you will also be financially illiterate. That the information technically exists somewhere is immaterial if you can’t find or evaluate it in a way that benefits yourself. That’s why experts exist. But now we have public “experts” (influencers) and private experts (actual specialists). And public experts are seen as a replacement for public education. And many of those public “experts” are getting paid a lot more for spreading bad information than teachers ever were for teaching skills. While public “experts” consistently argue not only should they be paid but they should go unregulated.
The situation is dire and people will soon be arguing that because people are already uneducated and uninterested in education or self-improvement (as if that happened naturally or by chance), regular access to educational resources should be restricted or rescinded altogether. They already are arguing, implicitly, that corporations are the correct stewards of information. And that’s what I mean by “general gatekeeping”.
I’ve seen a lot of these arguments calling out either countries that don’t have free public libraries or singling out the US but from what I’ve seen reading social media many, many countries are going through some version of this. And this isn’t even getting into information being so siloed it’s causing material knowledge degradation.
Hopefully that made sense.
EDIT: TL;DR: average libertarian take: “people don’t need real information because they hate it. So everyone should resent information and only being given information that will pacify them.” I’m a little alarmed people don’t notice how pro-corporate and anti-regulation, anti-public, and anti-transparency it is.
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I'm a little confused by why you called "actual specialists" "private" experts. A lot of, for example, public universities have experts that put out information as part of their jobs.
"Additionally you lose access to most good information once your affiliation with academia is gone"
Does your institution do that? I can still log in mine (years after graduating) and access journal articles. Plus libraries often also buy access to some stuff.
Your point on high school-I definitely think that's the most alarming. One symptom that has stuck out to me for years is the way people fit science papers into their arguments/worldview. They're used just like in high school.
high school days: I gotta pad out my sources section. I chose to argue x so I'm just gonna look for any paper that has a sentence that sounds like it supports x.
real life argument: I believe x. I'll google papers supporting x. This title/abstract/1 sentence sounds like it supports x!
I find it quite rare that a person looking to argue something actually reads a substantial part of a paper. First, they already firmly hold the belief before they had evidence. Then, even if they'll spend time to write some long dumb argument, they'll spend 0 time checking anything about the papers they cite. Not the statistics/numbers, not the methodology, not conflicts of interest, and probably not that the paper even supports what they're saying. I don't mean that I expect someone to check ALL of those, for it is quite a time-consuming and dry process, but it's surely worth checking at least a little! And, to tie this back to the earlier point, I'm not so worried about access to science journals from the public, because in the first place people aren't educated (or disciplined?) enough to make good use of it anyway. Not to say that lack of access is not an issue, but more that IMO, lack of critical thinking is a much bigger problem.
'And many of those public “experts” are getting paid a lot more for spreading bad information'
So sad to see. I watched a video from Tom Nicholas about Veritasium. The latter did a video ad about Waymo autonomous taxis. Tom Nicholas's main point was that Veritasium minimized the fact that it was an ad-a quick sentence dismissed with a shrug-and was totally uncritical about the tech. And Veritasium replied in the comments many times, ignoring the crux of the video, instead only talking about how autonomous vehicles are great and Tom Nicholas's criticisms of them were wrong. It was crazy to me how much he was trying to sweep the issue under the rug. After all, surely he didn't misunderstand the point, because the vast majority of the comments (which included many other YTers who had done or had the opportunity to do similar deals) understood the point of the video, but Veritasium chose to act like he did nothing wrong. And he's not the only one...
@@winrawrisyou it’s difficult to explain my thought process without going into the history of academic exclusivity and misconduct because otherwise my reasoning would sound paranoid. I don’t mean to imply they’re all trying to be exclusionary. I do see that as the result. If you’re not familiar with why, assume what I’m saying is unsound.
Having done research for a video now I’d say that influencers spreading misinformation works exactly how you’ve described: they don’t want to do the work do they ignore contradictory or complexing information. Which also means they have a vested stake in their audience not actually learning anything.
I’d put public librarians and (good) scientific and academic communicators in a separate category, of “public specialist”. (Although if we wanted to get into there are also public generalists who aren’t deliberately oversimplifying, they’re just trying to introduce people to subject matter). But given how niche and small those industries are compared to influencers… (I didn’t put this in the original reply because it is VERY easy to assume an influencer is actually a communicator which is another way bad information is passed off as good). Ultimately it reminds me of the Mark Twain quote, “a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” Because influencers can afford to be more salacious and entertaining and, therefore, less truthful.
I disagree about access because I don’t think people will understand it until they’re more familiar. Getting them to value what they’re losing is probably a separate issue with a separate fix.
However I think a huge underlying problem we’re both touching on is people thinking anything that takes time is not worth doing for them, and only maybe for someone else (if you can convince them it’s profitable). Things people take as inefficiencies are so often quality checks that I don’t understand exactly how so many people were convinced that ripping out quality controls… wouldn’t lead to worse quality….?
Yes, there are many current examples of presenting marketing as truth. People’s media literacy is especially low. I can’t watch certain TH-cam genres now unless I’m willing to fact check everything in real time.
EDIT: also yes as far as I know it’s commonplace to lose access to educational materials once your time at university is over.
It has been privatized for a long time boy, search for anything in google scholar most links will be behind a paywall.
I don't care about the chill vibe. I love writing, watching anime and listening to musicals. I love being gay and having rainbow hair and being literally the most colorful dressed one in the room.
At my workplace some of the desks look like nobody's even worked at that station. Meanwhile I have my frog figurines, my crabs, my favorite childhood fridge magnets (since I rent a room and thus it's a communal fridge at home), some small crafts. When I'm bored and it's slow I'll make lil paper crafts like party hats or color or do diamond art. I have frog art taped to my cubicle walls as well as my other SFW interests (so no memes, but I do have my Welcome to the Frog Parade parody song art lol). Job can't even complain about it cuz I keep my station clean and when we had go switch cubicles I was more prepared the day of than anybody else and my new cubicle had every knick knack n picture back up within an hour without any decrease in productivity 😎✨️
I really like frogs. :D
As a 30 y/o millennial I feel really bad for genz and gen alpha growing up with such a mean online culture. It’s already hard enough to be a teenager but to have the additional element of potentially thousands of people bullying you online just because of something you like is so scary.
Anyways all those people online taking time out of their day to pick on other people’s hobbies is super gross and lame. They seem like the mean girls that peak in high school types. Life is fun when you can find things that you’re passionate about.
What's frustrating is that the "avoiding sincerity" mentality bleeds into everyday life. People try to act cool to maintain an image and if you express something that doesn’t fit an unspoken societal standard, it's either bashed or made something to laugh at. Ofc I don’t let it control my actions, but there’s still the desire to fit in.
Now that Spotify Wrapped is about to be released, I'm tentative about sharing the Kpop and Monstercat music I enjoy to others. Once again, there's the choice to blend in, or be honest. And I'm not bringing any benefit to my life by watering down my hobbies. Tbh that's the only way I can think of to getting those rigid ideals to fade away.
One of the biggest lessons I've learned about authenticity was around ten years ago when I'd feel bad for liking mlp despite being the literal target audience, then I'd see grown ups liking mlp too (though now I get many of them were probably being ironic), and understand there was no age to like what you like. We should be able to freely express ourselves, it's a literal human right, and the fact culture is shifting towards oppressing it is... sad, to say the least.
Great video! I'd really like to see a part 2
i was the my little pony girl too. when i was a kid people made fun of me for being too happy, i wish i was still "too happy". we live in such a dumb world. be who you really want to be anyway, don't try to market yourself 24/7. it wouldn't even be worth it if it worked.
for real there’s no limit to liking what you like. as long as you’re being respectful and happy for yourself that’s what matters the most
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@ville-c4u bro what💀 can you like shut up this is a comment section dude let them speak
You’re right, I write fanfiction and I always talk openly about it (in person, and to mixed results, some people think it’s weird, and others I can get to understand. Luckily being more open about it has made it less likely for people to bully me because I have nothing to hide). Though The only social medias I use are tumblr and TH-cam (and discord kinda but only to text friends?) so I will admit those are the more chill ones when it comes to ‘cringe’ things. I also animate a lot (and in turn watch a TON of animated shows which are normally seen as childish), and am sort of trying to learn to make games (not good at it-). I was more embarrassed when I first started doing this stuff, but now it’s easier to just have fun. And it feels rewarding when you meet someone who feels similar to you, sometimes all you got to do is write sonic fanfic
SONIC FANFIC!! i put that little blue skrunkly through HELL and half my friends think im weird but i dont care! all that matters is hurting sonic tbh (im excited to see another sonic fanfic writer im sorry haha)
@@mahimahsan6059 you’re so real for that! I primarily write angst as well! (mostly for shadow, but for sonic too hehe) keep doing what you’re doing!!
@@lilwoofs NO WAY!!! my most recent project was actually a mercenary au and somehow sonjet and ex sonamyshad managed to worm its way into it and it is SO fun (im a multi shipper i ship everything but i prefer poly sonamyshad) its so angsty and im having the time of my life!! lets both keep writing!!!!!!
@@mahimahsan6059 you have taste!!!
@lilwoofs d'aw, thanks!! (did you know im listening to undefeatable right now. because yeah)
I genuinely think that people look the happiest and exude the most peace when they indulge in their hobbies or talk abt them at length. I love when someone else gets into a rant on the thing they love, they look like they’re ALIVE. I hate the whole cringe wave, I understand taking a giggle abt something awkward but why make fun of people just enjoying things. You can listen for a bit even if you don’t like it, why not make a good friend shit man ppl are sad and boring
Knowing I’m autistic has really helped disempower this genre of comments. I’m *going to* enjoy something, at a cellular level, on purpose. That’s unshakeable and inevitable. I generally don’t acquaint myself with those who may express or be prepared to express cynicism (you can tell, at least I’ve spent my life learning how to recognise outwards signs) towards… honest enjoyment of Subjects and Activities. The purity and integrity of my absorption vastly outweighs the gritty satisfaction of peer submission. Rebel and kindred spirits will find you!
People are so afraid to be authentic that it kinda circles back around to being cringe if that makes sense. Like why is someone getting so pissed off over another person having fun? Because they don't have the courage to express themselves and have no hobbies? Why care so much about what another person is doing? And the cycle continues.
i have a good amount of hobbies and interests and whilst usually people are pretty chill about it i definitely feel the whole “socially/non socially acceptable level of interest” thing a lot. sometimes i feel i have to tone down how much i enjoy something to not come off as weird. i remember one interaction i had with someone where the topic of wwe came up and i mentioned i was a wrestling fan, and the way their tone shifted when they found out i wasn’t a “haha isn’t this so ridiculous” ironic enjoyer and instead genuinely enjoy it lol…i feel like people are expected to have a ironic “guilty pleasure” mentality torwards anything that could be interpreted as a cringe interest. as ive gotten older, i honestly care less about what someone could say about what i enjoy. there’s not enough sincerity nowadays.
this channel is still so cool, as a creator myself its so nice to see people openly and genuinely discuss topics such as these. I tend to keep my channel and hobbies away from people I know out of embarrassment, and I think that's mostly due to me seeing others get put down for trying to uphold their own channel.
i used to do this too 😭 now i force everyone at school to subscribe-- be proud of your channel the videos are great 😤
i genuinely am so terrified to tell people what shows i like. im fine telling people i like cats the musical because i *know* its kinda strange and niche (no thanks to the 2019 movie for that perception…). but when it comes to shows and games i rlly genuinely like, im so scared to say it. and its been like that since i was in 5th grade! the only place i feel able to talk about it is at conventions, where i know people wont judge me for it. its hard even for me to talk to my friends who got me into the shows sometimes.
Hating someone for being interesting is just so much easier than realizing you're boring and putting in the work to better yourself.
TH-cam randomly handing me this video so I can learn that there are apparently groups of people on earth that don’t like it when you have hobbies and interests, nightmarish.
This topic reminds me of the book title "why be happy when you could be normal" (by Jennette winterson) which I know is about queerness but I still think those words could be applied to so niche hobbies you're passionate about with being yourself and authentically happy instead of trying to be normal or cool.
i find it very amusing how i've managed to surround myself with the sort of people where i have the complete opposite problem - i'm scared of having too LITTLE personality lmao
that being said i definitely have experience from an old friend group of mine of genuine passion/interest being seen as extra, and GOD as someone with niche and weird-ass interests that shit was a nightmare TwT so glad to see that being called out here!!!!!
reminds me of hozier's "to noise making." he describes someone he admires singing because it's fun for them, with no regard to how it sounds. he encourages it. "at best, you find a little remedy; at worst, the world will sing along." i love that song ❤
i unironically live by the meme "i'm cringe but i'm free", and yeah, it's kind of liberating to just allow ourselves... to be ourselves
Just because I feel like it I'm going to list all the fandoms displayed in my room from most to least socially acceptable. First is Pokemon, very popular so it's the most "normal'. Second is TMNT, again very popular, but seen as very childish. Third is Plants Vs. Zombies, it's past it's peak in popularity but still decently respected as a franchise. Fourth is the Lego movie, I could probably swap this with PVZ as it's mostly in the same spot in the public's eye. Fifth is Stikbots, those little suction cup guys that were popular in 2016 I think. Honestly I think they're underrated as they also double as pretty good fidget toys!! Sixth is 9, that creepy movie about those ragdolls. I don't even think the movie is that good, yet I love it anyway haha.
I really enjoy showing off the things I love and over time have become more confident about doing so in public!! I notice that I am happier when I do so AND it attracts the kind of people who I would enjoy to be friends with!! I guess to be cringe really is to be free :P
Also sorry if this was hard to read, I'm both staying up late and ill T_T
i have never seen another 9 fan in the ten years ive been a fan of that movie omfg hi!!!! i love 9!!!! the movie isnt even that good youre right 😭 i have the pirated link saved to my browser and im planning on downloading it to a usb sometime soon because i watch it regularly still. god i love it
@@mahimahsan6059 OMG YESSSS!!!! I remember showing the movie to my mom one time and she was so concerned lmaooo!! It's nice to see there are still people who like this strange movie :D
Honestly what's unfortunate is ive been bullied for pokemon. Be proud of your interests. Show them off like a badge of honor. People who bully or find stuff cringe or weird don't care what it is. They'll make fun of it no matter what and that's why you have to stand strong. Your interests are cool and valid because they are you.
9 scared me so bad 💀💀
Man, I need to rewatch 9. I barely remember anything about it except that it's like the apocalypse?
Alexis G Zall once said that she’d “rather be called cringe for trying too hard than not try too hard.” And that never left me ❤
gen z and their need to layer irony and humor on top of everything they do is so insufferable. can we please go back to being human thx.
i genuinely hate my generation and this timeline so much. the way that people will record strangers doing something they’re passionate about or trying to learn and then post it to make fun of them makes me boil over with rage anytime i see it. i hate feeling like i can’t exist in public comfortably anymore because someone might take pictures of my “weird outfit” or whatever. i actually had this happen to me one time and it took everything in me to not scream in his face. i hate smartphones and genuinely think they were a mistake, but now it feels like having one is a requirement to exist in the world. i hate all this
i want to make a part 2 on the irony crisis like why are we living life through JOKES and “for the bit” can we just be fr 😭
we’ve never been not insufferable as a society. generations past couldn’t record or post about you, but they could round you up to laugh at you in the town square, post you in a newspaper/magazine, or beat you up and call you slurs without anyone batting an eye (people can still do that today, but has public disruption gotten better or worse cause of social media? somehow both? idk). ofc having an online life to worry about (even if you’re not online yourself) on top of your real life is stressful, but it’s never been easy for us “weirdos”, it’s just taken out on us in different ways over the years
I’ve also been recorded in public before, like how are people so mean and how do some people not have values or empathy???
@@doothi It's also quite noticeable in movies. I'll be watching something and something serious is happening, and then the main character hits me with a stupid quip to take me out of the scene. The villain? Their defeat was a total joke, haha! It's a lack of sincerity.
Nah choomba, are you from fucking Chía and in Los Andes? Cus you sound like my brother.
But yeah shit is for real, pop culture is the fucking worst and should be destroyed, i really can't give enough of two fucks about pop culture and general perception, perhaps being raised in a non-traditionalist environment helped, perhaps being gay and queer did, perhaps just being into actually studying shit.
Why is mediocre and mid associated with bad? From how the folks around me use it, they use it to describe shows/media/services that they did not like at all, instead of it being ok/alright. It's ok to be mediocre at something, to not be excellent, to not make a career/profit off of efforts and hobbies. Mediocre isn't bad. I feel like the perception of greatness or nothing also holds people back from pursuing hobbies
Yesss I agree the fact that we have to pursue being the best at everything we do which holds us back from even trying for fear of failing or even worse being laughed at for failing
i don't get into talking about my hobbies cause i value other people's time, i do not wanna be nerding out for 2 hours about how the breakdown on the latest psychedelic prn crumpets song was actually a complete accident due to the band's improvisational style of song making that can be especially seen in that song thus creating a multigene style of both psychedelic rock metal and surf rock... now i will stop myself.
I love your enthusiasim!!! lol you would be cool to talk to over some coffee at Starbucks.
I think I might be a bit older than the target audience here (university student), but I've seen this around the dating scene a lot. I'm on Hinge (unfortunately), and lot of people will put down the strangest things as their prompts--I've seen far too many where all of them just list different types of food they enjoy. It's awfully "safe" of them, and I can't really bring myself to start conversation of any sort ("go girl give us nothing"). Likewise, a lot of people will say they're into "nerds" and "listening to someone yap"--like that feels almost like objectification (nerds, truly the most oppressed minority) of just the most basic conversation, and makes it seem oddly one way (conversations are, by nature, an active exchange)??? Though truth be told, I do have some interests (indie music, jazz, 20th C. literature, narrative RPGs), but I definitely avoid exploration of them because of this fear of appearing simultaneously lame and overzealous or just a total poser. Gen Z, I suppose, really is cooked.
Another banger video, whenever a subject like this comes up I always think about the quote “I’m cringe, but I’m free”. I had an experience really similar to this, I performed a song named Anyone Else but you from a movie named Juno. While everyone else played super hype and upbeat songs, I just went up with my guitar and played a short and sweet song. I was really happy that at least one person in the crowd recognized it but it was liberating. It’s great hearing experiences similar to this and once again love your videos and can’t wait for the next one :p
yess vulnerability is what creates the most memorable art 😭🥹
Hate being nonchalant honestly
I mean it’s so discouraging
It get’s a lot worse when you’re really expressive person and you have to hold your feelings back
Great vid
I am so glad you talked about this topic!! I've had trouble with making friends in the past because of this exactly. Most of my peers "hobbies" were social media, talking, chilling. I never understood that. Neither they understood that I genuinely enjoy playing the guitar. You guys don't worry, enjoy your hobbies and the people will come at the right time. You're doing great😁🎉
This ALL goes back to the current trend of anti-intellectualism. Knowing things, doing things, and caring about things are seen as 'cringe' and I'm afraid that it's only gonna get worse. Resist being part of the meh-flavored masses! Have a goddamn personality! Who cares if people label you as cringe? They're not the type of people you wanna associate with anyway, so why are you bothered by what they say/think? Meanwhile, if you actually do show you have a personality and being unapologetic about it will attract the people you DO want to be around. I'm 33 and "cringe" I mean, just look at my furry pfp. But I also finally have a tight group of friends, I have a sense of style, I'm always doing SOMETHING. My lifestyle is fun and I encourage anyone to do it. Yes, you will inevitably grow out of certain phases and fixations, but you know what? It's better to have memories of having cringy fun than, I dunno, only having memories of doomscrolling tiktoks of people that are having an infinitely better time than you while you call them mean names? :/
It's your life, I guess, but that doesn't sound like a good life to me.
More has been written on this phenomenon than can be read in a lifetime, but about Generation X. Apathy-as-fashion was a staple of the Grunge movement, and it seems to have looped back around. Late Millennials and Gen Z had "irony poisoning," then "sincerity poisoning", and now it's cringe to be passionate again. Flat circle.