"I LIKE TO HEAR - I DON"T WANNA SEE CURVES" ... - Can't agree more on this Dom & EQing from your Ears really makes so much of a difference regardless of any EQ / COMP type in my opinion... Pulsar stuff are just killers & The MASSIVE is ahead of the game since it came out ! Thanks Trillions Dom... :)
I mostly use MU at the end of my vox bus to put meat on the vocals. The EQ goes on the mix bus in MS mode only. I have so many plugins that I use a specific plugin for one or two things only. And as an aside, I have a 30 tube vary mu comp (among others) on the mix bus when I want to stand out. The 1178 is nice too.
I realize this video is 11 months old, but it was either Thanksgiving or Christmas 2022 that I bought the Pulsar Audio plug-in bundle with Massive and Mu, and it came with the Relab LX480 Essentials reverb as a bonus. Sale price $139 plus exchange fee of some sort. I use my Mu and Massive every single mix. I have since bought the Relab LX480 V4 Dual Engine as well.
The remarkable thing about this type of plugins or emulations That technique behind it The innovative way of thinking The hidden mastering sauce back then Those type of things that if we all came familiar with, these plugins will be almost useless unless for faster processing only A saturation beneath the hood A cut off frequency A multi compression in a button A hot tube included An Exciter within the Amp. And so on But still , it's lovely compressor Does some magic for the vocals too
Pulsar is a great plugin company. I got their Smasher when it first dropped. However, I use Acustica Audio's Magenta plugin suite. Great EQs and Compressor emulations from "M". The UI and colors have changed from initial release, likely for trademark reasons, but the sound is spot on. Give it a try. I'd love to hear what you think about the sound. Side note : I did the first Acustica Audios demos for Magenta and was floored with how close the plugin and hardware sounded on the music. Been a huge fan ever since. That said, I'm definitely going to give Pulsar's Massive a try. I like companies that put in the work to make a solid product.
Dom please have a look on Kircchoff EQ. It is really something above other EQ's. It emultates several EQ's pretty well (only the curve, unfortunatelly doesn't add any charasteristic tone or harmonics), but adding own saturation and compression on top of this EQ is not that overwhelming and give us a lot of options. All the best in 2023!
@@jaco1368 if you enjoy the geekiness of Kirchhoff I can recommend you take a look at DMG audio’s Equilibrium plugin. It does lack dynamic eq however it follows the same philosophy but with far far more options of analogue curves but also choices in the DSP engine which affects the sound in subtle ways. Very interesting as a study tool.
Have to agree that Kirchoff at 117bit x2 is the best and cleanest digital EQ ever. It easily sets Fab ProQ3 back a few steps in terms of pure clean and phase free edits. To me the best EQ ever. Altho I understand that not all people have the sensitive and trained ears and/or proper environment to judge this. Cheers😊
This baby is a gem. The company is a gem. My main master bus compressor. Acustica Audio Nebula, especially Tim's compressors, are more 3D (convolution), but the hassle with that platform is a bum. And, algorithm plugins have become much better, so I'm happy.
Just got them for Black Friday. Almost passed on them because I have too many plugins already. I am happy I didn’t everything he said in this video is true.
Great company. Love the attention to detail. I like do the Mu but I feel its a little more punchy in its envelope than a hardware Manley VariMu. The tone is lovely though. A little harder to get relaxed compression. The 1178 is good for sure, but it doesnt really have the 1176 FET sound to my ears. Its great, and veryy usesable, precisely because its not another 1176. For the vari mu I prefer the IK multimedia, seems to have more Glue- as well as El Rey, and Molot
I got the massive instantly too, I need to burn my credit card at this point! But it works so well for mastering and super flexible. Planning the the MU next but one great steal is the Klanghelm MJUC, it's old but still sounds amazing for a MU style compressor if you haven't tried it yet.
love my Klanhelm stuff, nobody uses that stuff, the DC8C2 is one of my go to comp's. I found Pulsar looking for their Echo delay which David Gilmore used. When I saw the MU and Massive I had to get them. I use those 2 on every track now. Has changed how I mix.
I really would like to buy them... but nobody - even not the Pulsar Audio Website - tells you that you have to install the ilok software. So i'll stay happy with Klanghelm MUC. I like this more than my SPL Iron Plugin. And need no iLok Cloud spyware on my system :D
I use both, Massive tends to work better for me. Being a fan of Acustica Audio's products must say Magenta is noticeabily superated by Massive and Mu when it comes to improving the sound.
@@joanfranch I don't own a Passive Massive but have used one many times in a studio I worked at. But I did have a Manley VariMu when I compared it to all the plugin versions, Magenta was so close it was almost indistinguishable, but pulsar didn't actually sound like it. That's why I went with Magenta. Pulsar was good for it's own sound, but didn't sound like the hardware, still a good plugin tho.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist if you're looking for closest sound of a plugin to the hardware you might be right. Personally I don't look for sounds that replicate hardware units, look for optimal sounding mixes.
@@joanfranch fair call and if I started my engineering career now I would probably think the same way. But I was taught traditionally 20 years ago in studios with consoles and analog hardware. There were hardly any plugins and they were crap. So I know the exact sounds I'm after and how to get them with certain pieces of gear. So when I'm looking for a purely digital tool I go for how they sound like you do, but when I'm buying an analog emulation it needs to sound the same as the hardware it is emulating or it is useless to me because I need it to fulfill that specific purpose and get that sound I have in my head.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist no 100$ plugin treats audio signals as 5.000$ gear, and no digital processing works as analog processing. Forget about getting the same results. They may be better in any of those ways, but not the same. If you want the Manley analog sound you just have one option: buy a Manley.
Hi! Thank you for video. Can you told about tc electronic finalizer 96k. Can i use this processor now days? Is it comparable with others hardware mastering processor that you have?
Hi Dom, this has nothing to do with this Video, however I‘m still asking the question. I have been searching for Guitar Riffs (like: Prince‘s, D.M.S.R.- 0.40-0.50, for an example)? Oh yeah, with a Guitar…?😊
Happy new year Dom! I recently bought apollo but it isnt showing up in padshop. It's saved in the same place as cinergy which does show up. Is there anything else I need to do to get it working? Thank you as always for the amazing videos! xxx
@@leonbahar648 did you activate the license with the elicenser (it should show on your licenses list in the eLicenser software). Unless you do this it won’t show on Cubase :) Cinergy is a free so it doesn’t require activation :)
@@DomSigalas Hmmm it's so weird but when I dropped the download access code onto steinberg download assistant it didn't give me the option to activate with my e-licenser, I downloaded transverse just before and that is now on my e-licenser. Sorry for the trouble I just really want to check it out! :))
@domsigalas I own the Massive one and love it. Now am looking for the Vari-Mu . Is it only suited as Bus Compresor? Does it work for parallel? Heavy / Rock music?
Hi everyone... i got a question that maybe someone can answer. :) is there a possibility to cut audio samples and delete parts of it completly. When i cut some parts of and delete them, there still there, just hidden. If i stretch the block after deleting parts they show up again. Hope you understand what im speaking about. xD i use to bounce the part that i need after cutting to realy get just this part but i was wondering if there is a faster way... :)
@@DomSigalas Yes, the newest version :) Thx for your quick answer. Hope you understand what problem i mean. 🙈 its when i import e sample direct on a audiolane. Sry, maybe not the best english 🙈
Hey Dom, is there any reason you don't use UAD plugins? Have you had issues with them and Cubase? I've had all sorts of issues in the past. Have slowly lowered my reliance on them, but I'm wondering if there is a reason you don't.
Yes there’s a very specific reason :) I adopted DSP solutions very early and I spent a fortune on plugins for Powercore FireWire. Then the platform was discontinued and I was left with a £7K worth of plugins that I couldn’t use. Since then I swore that I’m not going to use DSP powered plugins again. Nothing against UAD, they’re plugins are great but I don’t see the DSP thing dragging for much to long. They’re already going the Native route themselves. I use multiple systems to load projects and a DSP solution is a pain for my workflow. And with the CPUs that exist today I never feel the need for more power to be honest. If anything, I need more power for VST instruments, not audio plugins :)
@@DomSigalas It's very much the answer I was expecting and completely agree. There was a massive bug in 10.5 that I went through all the effort to properly report that was flat out ignored. The way Cubase handles loading the plugins in order of track numbers and the UAD DSP system being unable to spread them over the chips is an absolute joke, really. Super primitive and limited. Thanks for responding. I will continue the slow and painful journey of making my way out of relying on any more of their plugins. Shame I just recently bought Elysia Alpha Master and can't imagine living without it. Do we just assume other companies recreate these modelled plugins just as well? Hmmm....I dunno. I suppose they will become more trusted with time, as UAD becomes more irrelevant.
@@MythixMusic1 Loading plugins which form the same processing chain on the same physical processors makes TOTAL technical sense. This is the only sensible way of minimising latency and minimising wasted processing cycles by avoiding sending packets of data all over the place as well as trashing cache cohesion. This is not a bug - this is sensible system design. It the same reason each Cubase track gets a single thread - to maximise cache hits and minimise the chances of processing hopping cores which destroys efficiency, wasting cycles copying instructions and data from core to core - cycles which should be performing actual audio processing.
@@LondonSteveLee perhaps on the technical back end side it makes sense, but when you have an instance of Culture Vulture that takes 40% of a single DSP chip on a track down low in the project nested in a nearly organised project by folders/stems and you then have to move it to the top of your project so it gets loaded first - is just stupid! Nobody wants this limitation. At one stage I had 22 UAD cores and was a heavy user. The less, and less I use, the better my system works.
I've said for a while now, no more plugins. Then the Waves BB Tube came out and, well, you know the story.But..... I'm NOT buying anymore! At least for a while. I'm moving at the end of March and the budget just won't allow it. Free ones are fare game though, of course. I might go for Massive if it goes on sale after I move.
lovely curves Dom ,for a moment i was thinking you were talking about women 😁 my new purchase is the Vital synth,its normally a free synth,but without the posibillity of TTS,its a beast,it can do almost everything i can think of,cheers mate
Let's see ... starts with Man and ends with ley, right? OK then ... Manfair childley? no, that can't be it. Manpul Tecley ... sounds weird! umm ... Manunver salley??? WTF is that??? No, I give up! What is it? Gimme the company!
I'm using Massive, Mu, and Smasher VST3 on Studio One 6 Artist, both on a Windows laptop and now my new Mac Mini M2. And these Pulsar plug-ins are working great. I'm even using all 3 at the same time. Absolutely zero issues.
I love that Dom is stuck in the 80's. Take me with you 🤣🤣🤣
Pulsar Mu is such a gem. Took me several attempts over the years to realize how amazing it is. Nothing glues the way this does.
"I LIKE TO HEAR - I DON"T WANNA SEE CURVES" ... - Can't agree more on this Dom & EQing from your Ears really makes so much of a difference regardless of any EQ / COMP type in my opinion... Pulsar stuff are just killers & The MASSIVE is ahead of the game since it came out ! Thanks Trillions Dom... :)
I mostly use MU at the end of my vox bus to put meat on the vocals. The EQ goes on the mix bus in MS mode only. I have so many plugins that I use a specific plugin for one or two things only. And as an aside, I have a 30 tube vary mu comp (among others) on the mix bus when I want to stand out. The 1178 is nice too.
Been using them when they first came out great plugins.
A year and a half ago, asked you specifically about the MU compressor. I got it for myself. Pulsar makes great plugins.
Love Pulsar plug-ins, I now got them all… Their new 8200 EQ is amazing, I use it a lot on orchestral stuffs
what I've found over the years is build your mastering chain, if you're doing both mixing and mastering and mix on top of that. It works well for me.
I realize this video is 11 months old, but it was either Thanksgiving or Christmas 2022 that I bought the Pulsar Audio plug-in bundle with Massive and Mu, and it came with the Relab LX480 Essentials reverb as a bonus. Sale price $139 plus exchange fee of some sort.
I use my Mu and Massive every single mix.
I have since bought the Relab LX480 V4 Dual Engine as well.
Thanks Dom, I hadn't heard of these either, but I am going over there now to have a look for sure. Awesome video my friend.
I already took them NOW !!! Awesome job Dom !!!
Happy New Year, Dom! Can’t wait for your new video! 😊
The remarkable thing about this type of plugins or emulations
That technique behind it
The innovative way of thinking
The hidden mastering sauce back then
Those type of things that if we all came familiar with, these plugins will be almost useless unless for faster processing only
A saturation beneath the hood
A cut off frequency
A multi compression in a button
A hot tube included
An Exciter within the Amp.
And so on
But still , it's lovely compressor
Does some magic for the vocals too
Dom I can hear the difference, and I'm listening to my cellphone! Man this is awesome!
Pulsar is a great plugin company. I got their Smasher when it first dropped.
However, I use Acustica Audio's Magenta plugin suite. Great EQs and Compressor emulations from "M".
The UI and colors have changed from initial release, likely for trademark reasons, but the sound is spot on.
Give it a try. I'd love to hear what you think about the sound.
Side note : I did the first Acustica Audios demos for Magenta and was floored with how close the plugin and
hardware sounded on the music. Been a huge fan ever since.
That said, I'm definitely going to give Pulsar's Massive a try. I like companies that put in the work to make a solid product.
Dom please have a look on Kircchoff EQ. It is really something above other EQ's. It emultates several EQ's pretty well (only the curve, unfortunatelly doesn't add any charasteristic tone or harmonics), but adding own saturation and compression on top of this EQ is not that overwhelming and give us a lot of options. All the best in 2023!
@Дмитрий Миненко Thank you, you can leave now.
@@jaco1368 if you enjoy the geekiness of Kirchhoff I can recommend you take a look at DMG audio’s Equilibrium plugin. It does lack dynamic eq however it follows the same philosophy but with far far more options of analogue curves but also choices in the DSP engine which affects the sound in subtle ways. Very interesting as a study tool.
Have to agree that Kirchoff at 117bit x2 is the best and cleanest digital EQ ever. It easily sets Fab ProQ3 back a few steps in terms of pure clean and phase free edits. To me the best EQ ever. Altho I understand that not all people have the sensitive and trained ears and/or proper environment to judge this. Cheers😊
I rate the Massive as the best plugin of 2022!
Love these have both!
I really do enjoy this channel. Very good info and you can see he really loves what he does.
Not everyone can afford real thing, but plugs are not cheap! Sounds like worth money, if you have it :)
Nice Dom. I like the Manley vari-mu and also the SPL Iron plugins in mastering where the vari-mu compression is called for.
I’ve been using their 1178 plug-in and like it very much!
This baby is a gem. The company is a gem. My main master bus compressor. Acustica Audio Nebula, especially Tim's compressors, are more 3D (convolution), but the hassle with that platform is a bum. And, algorithm plugins have become much better, so I'm happy.
They also make a pretty cool Echorec
13:30 now i undderstand!!!!!! finally
I love them...always on my master
What a cool T-short!
There is no such thing as enough plugins! :D Love the Pulsar Audio stuff! Great video Dom!
Nice Queen shirt!
Just got them for Black Friday. Almost passed on them because I have too many plugins already. I am happy I didn’t everything he said in this video is true.
I'm gonna wait for the mu to go back on sale. Already got massive and the 1178. Great plugins!
Great company. Love the attention to detail. I like do the Mu but I feel its a little more punchy in its envelope than a hardware Manley VariMu. The tone is lovely though. A little harder to get relaxed compression. The 1178 is good for sure, but it doesnt really have the 1176 FET sound to my ears. Its great, and veryy usesable, precisely because its not another 1176.
For the vari mu I prefer the IK multimedia, seems to have more Glue- as well as El Rey, and Molot
song at 16:15
I got the massive instantly too, I need to burn my credit card at this point! But it works so well for mastering and super flexible. Planning the the MU next but one great steal is the Klanghelm MJUC, it's old but still sounds amazing for a MU style compressor if you haven't tried it yet.
love my Klanhelm stuff, nobody uses that stuff, the DC8C2 is one of my go to comp's. I found Pulsar looking for their Echo delay which David Gilmore used. When I saw the MU and Massive I had to get them. I use those 2 on every track now. Has changed how I mix.
I really would like to buy them... but nobody - even not the Pulsar Audio Website - tells you that you have to install the ilok software. So i'll stay happy with Klanghelm MUC. I like this more than my SPL Iron Plugin. And need no iLok Cloud spyware on my system :D
oooh ! the shift trick for autogain on the MU (time to read the manual I guess)
I have the 1178… and it’s 🔥
The bad is you got demonetized due some misunderstanding, the good is that vocal mastering plug in. Just…Wow
Softube/Kontakt have a massive passive emulation that’s really nice too
which for Softube
Still saving for them…..
Tried the Pulsar Manley plugins, but I settled on Acustica Magenta instead. Both were quite good tho.
I use both, Massive tends to work better for me.
Being a fan of Acustica Audio's products must say Magenta is noticeabily superated by Massive and Mu when it comes to improving the sound.
@@joanfranch I don't own a Passive Massive but have used one many times in a studio I worked at. But I did have a Manley VariMu when I compared it to all the plugin versions, Magenta was so close it was almost indistinguishable, but pulsar didn't actually sound like it. That's why I went with Magenta. Pulsar was good for it's own sound, but didn't sound like the hardware, still a good plugin tho.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist if you're looking for closest sound of a plugin to the hardware you might be right.
Personally I don't look for sounds that replicate hardware units, look for optimal sounding mixes.
@@joanfranch fair call and if I started my engineering career now I would probably think the same way. But I was taught traditionally 20 years ago in studios with consoles and analog hardware. There were hardly any plugins and they were crap. So I know the exact sounds I'm after and how to get them with certain pieces of gear. So when I'm looking for a purely digital tool I go for how they sound like you do, but when I'm buying an analog emulation it needs to sound the same as the hardware it is emulating or it is useless to me because I need it to fulfill that specific purpose and get that sound I have in my head.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist no 100$ plugin treats audio signals as 5.000$ gear, and no digital processing works as analog processing.
Forget about getting the same results. They may be better in any of those ways, but not the same.
If you want the Manley analog sound you just have one option: buy a Manley.
You should try Acustica Audio Magenta 5 also if you want a Manley plugin
Sick vid Dom. Can you do a 1178 run thru?
And their EQs are also on my mix bus, btw.
Great plugins, I missed out at being an early adopter, my dummm
Me too 😂
Dom I have a question why nuendo sounds thicker and puncher then Cubase
It doesn’t - must be something else :) Nuendo and Cubase share the same engine :)
Please give us a training course on how to make a choir to make the voices of few people more.
Happy new year Dom!! Do you have any recommendations for a hub for a MacBook Pro???
Dom moves knobs, I cant tell a difference in the sound.... And Im listening to this through my home stereo.
Hi! Thank you for video. Can you told about tc electronic finalizer 96k. Can i use this processor now days? Is it comparable with others hardware mastering processor that you have?
What midi keyboard do you suggest for drums
Anyone using an Amd 5600g or Amd 5700g with Cubase 12 and no gpu? Just curious how well they run without a gpu.
Hi Dom, this has nothing to do with this Video, however I‘m still asking the question.
I have been searching for Guitar Riffs (like: Prince‘s, D.M.S.R.- 0.40-0.50, for an example)? Oh yeah, with a Guitar…?😊
Happy new year Dom! I recently bought apollo but it isnt showing up in padshop. It's saved in the same place as cinergy which does show up. Is there anything else I need to do to get it working? Thank you as always for the amazing videos! xxx
Hi Leon! Did you install it through the Steinberg Download Assistant? This should do all the work for you :)
Hey! Yes on the assistant it even says it is downloaded and in Padshop but when I open Cubase it doesn't show up for some reason :(
@@leonbahar648 did you activate the license with the elicenser (it should show on your licenses list in the eLicenser software). Unless you do this it won’t show on Cubase :) Cinergy is a free so it doesn’t require activation :)
@@DomSigalas Hmmm it's so weird but when I dropped the download access code onto steinberg download assistant it didn't give me the option to activate with my e-licenser, I downloaded transverse just before and that is now on my e-licenser. Sorry for the trouble I just really want to check it out! :))
When I go on my steinberg account it's under steinberg licensing-based products.
I recently purchased the 1178 from Pulsar Audio and it's a great mastering compressor too.
Waiting
@domsigalas I own the Massive one and love it. Now am looking for the Vari-Mu . Is it only suited as Bus Compresor? Does it work for parallel? Heavy / Rock music?
I love it for vocals, guitars and bus processing as well as mastering! Check my examples :)
Do You know Acustica Audio?
Hi everyone... i got a question that maybe someone can answer. :) is there a possibility to cut audio samples and delete parts of it completly. When i cut some parts of and delete them, there still there, just hidden. If i stretch the block after deleting parts they show up again. Hope you understand what im speaking about. xD i use to bounce the part that i need after cutting to realy get just this part but i was wondering if there is a faster way... :)
Are you using Cubase? :)
@@DomSigalas Yes, the newest version :) Thx for your quick answer. Hope you understand what problem i mean. 🙈 its when i import e sample direct on a audiolane. Sry, maybe not the best english 🙈
Hey Dom, is there any reason you don't use UAD plugins? Have you had issues with them and Cubase? I've had all sorts of issues in the past. Have slowly lowered my reliance on them, but I'm wondering if there is a reason you don't.
Yes there’s a very specific reason :) I adopted DSP solutions very early and I spent a fortune on plugins for Powercore FireWire. Then the platform was discontinued and I was left with a £7K worth of plugins that I couldn’t use. Since then I swore that I’m not going to use DSP powered plugins again. Nothing against UAD, they’re plugins are great but I don’t see the DSP thing dragging for much to long. They’re already going the Native route themselves.
I use multiple systems to load projects and a DSP solution is a pain for my workflow. And with the CPUs that exist today I never feel the need for more power to be honest. If anything, I need more power for VST instruments, not audio plugins :)
@@DomSigalas It's very much the answer I was expecting and completely agree. There was a massive bug in 10.5 that I went through all the effort to properly report that was flat out ignored. The way Cubase handles loading the plugins in order of track numbers and the UAD DSP system being unable to spread them over the chips is an absolute joke, really. Super primitive and limited. Thanks for responding. I will continue the slow and painful journey of making my way out of relying on any more of their plugins. Shame I just recently bought Elysia Alpha Master and can't imagine living without it. Do we just assume other companies recreate these modelled plugins just as well? Hmmm....I dunno. I suppose they will become more trusted with time, as UAD becomes more irrelevant.
@@MythixMusic1 Loading plugins which form the same processing chain on the same physical processors makes TOTAL technical sense. This is the only sensible way of minimising latency and minimising wasted processing cycles by avoiding sending packets of data all over the place as well as trashing cache cohesion. This is not a bug - this is sensible system design. It the same reason each Cubase track gets a single thread - to maximise cache hits and minimise the chances of processing hopping cores which destroys efficiency, wasting cycles copying instructions and data from core to core - cycles which should be performing actual audio processing.
@@LondonSteveLee perhaps on the technical back end side it makes sense, but when you have an instance of Culture Vulture that takes 40% of a single DSP chip on a track down low in the project nested in a nearly organised project by folders/stems and you then have to move it to the top of your project so it gets loaded first - is just stupid! Nobody wants this limitation. At one stage I had 22 UAD cores and was a heavy user. The less, and less I use, the better my system works.
Still trying to buy the bundel but the euro conversion between turkish lira is high creasy 😂
I've said for a while now, no more plugins. Then the Waves BB Tube came out and, well, you know the story.But..... I'm NOT buying anymore! At least for a while. I'm moving at the end of March and the budget just won't allow it. Free ones are fare game though, of course. I might go for Massive if it goes on sale after I move.
I will not watch this video, I have already enough plugins, I will not watch…🤓
👍
lovely curves Dom ,for a moment i was thinking you were talking about women 😁 my new purchase is the Vital synth,its normally a free synth,but without the posibillity of TTS,its a beast,it can do almost everything i can think of,cheers mate
You should try the WesAudio Rhea vari-mu compressor for 500 series rack
Let's see ... starts with Man and ends with ley, right? OK then ...
Manfair childley? no, that can't be it. Manpul Tecley ... sounds weird! umm ... Manunver salley??? WTF is that???
No, I give up! What is it? Gimme the company!
Its just me or are the vocals in the sound are too fare behind, like they are behind the mix?
Pulsar sponsored video?
plugins are like drugs
Cause u make music using both!
I didn’t like this plug in , lot of bugs and glitches
Really? What DAW do you use? Not a single glitch over here on Cubase and VST3
I'm using Massive, Mu, and Smasher VST3 on Studio One 6 Artist, both on a Windows laptop and now my new Mac Mini M2. And these Pulsar plug-ins are working great. I'm even using all 3 at the same time. Absolutely zero issues.
LOL... So the video is sponsored and you get paid for making the video - yet you claim to be unbiased ... What a load of crap...