Wang Chung soundtrack made the film very memorable. This scene was so interesting to watch the first time I saw it, still intriguing how detailed the counterfeiting scene was. One of my favorite movies of all time. Nothing even close to this good is made any longer, Hollywood is a joke !!
One of the greatest scenes in film of all time. The film editing with "City of Angels" was masterful, down to the printing presses keeping beat with the music. Rick Masters; American bad-ass!
Willem Dafoe plays the ultimate bad guy, and his performance playing Rick Masters should've gotten him an academy award! Total bad ass in everything he does, and a most impressive actor!
Back in 1985 the secret service tried desperately to get this scene deleted. Now days with color printers it's a lost cause. True counterfeiting though is done with a printing press as money is printed, not copied. It's also a breeze to counterfeit travlers checks and money orders. Counterfeiting postal money orders is so prevalent they don't even investigate the ones under $500.
Just because modern money has all the security features, does that mean you can only try to print copies of modern bills? Find some older bills from the 80's that lack the security stuff and copy those. They are still in circulation. No microprinting and no security threads, which didn't start until the early 90's. No color shifting ink. No watermarks. Uh oh, did I just give away a secret here? ;)
@Gravyballs2011 Anyone could get that model back (308 GTS) in the day, even with 1985 salaries. It wasn't until the 1984 Testerossa that Ferraris that they became something that only the super rich could afford. The GTS was a little more then the 1985 middle class salary and they're still sold used for around this price today. I also must note that a lower model was produced (208). So while he was a money launderer, he wasn't rich by any means. In fact his car is called POC in the film
In the "Making of" feature from the DVD, Freidkin basically says they had a former counterfeiter doing all the close-up handwork in this scene where you don't see Dafoe's face. He said they were only printing money on one side, and that going any farther than that would have crossed the line legally. Although a couple of prop one-sided bills got into the hands of a crew person's kid who tried to spend them. Oops. He said that's when the feds started watching / questioning them. Thanks!
Kids..this level of depicting a topic like reproducing currency will NEVER be demonstrated again..enjoy!..thank you 'William Friedkin'. ... "Buddy..your in the wrong place@the wrong time"- Rick Masters
I used to be a typesetter, so spent many hours of my early adulthood in newspapers and print shops. Even in 1985, this would not have been feasible. You could never print passable bogus currency with an offset press. (I guess that was intentional, to discourage copycats.)
I wonder if this montage influenced the makers of Breaking Bad. Love it and the whole film (but strangely I can't exactly explain why). Please come back and direct a new film Mr Friedkin, we miss you.
So the dryer wrinkles and creases the bills so they look used. Normally, people assume that counterfeit currency is crisp and new. It's basically a precaution. It also dries out any ink that didn't stick on.
People usually check to see if $50 and $100 bills are real. People don't usually suspect a fake $20 bill. If I were to do this, I'd go even lower and make $10 bills. No one ever checks them.
@jaktigmidblinx Exactly! The Secret Service knew for a fact that the $100 bill was going to be redesigned soon anyway (in 1990). However, I assume part of the reason is that they had major problems occurring at the time being with people using ordinary printers to make counterfeit bills.
@GARYindeed thats his crime partner, the dude that shoots the Secret Service agent in the head with the twelve gauge shotgun when the SSA comes snooping around the place. Buddy, "you're in the wrong place at the wrong time" or lines close to that.
Same serial numbers, same iD numbers, no watermark, no security stripes and he's probably using commerically available paper. Just a matter of time before this dude regrets doing it. MAD MOVIE THO!
@pynchonfan i dont think they had a choice. the secret service forced them to make it unrealistic, so it wouldn't be a tutorial. if i remember correctly ,they were forced to change this scene around. it's not the way they wanted to shoot it, and they were originally going to show exactly how to counterfeit
75% linen 15% flax other ten is "secret" but at least 5% is starch, and red and blue yarn fibers. (and NO, NOT a lexmark, lol. go with something doing 9600 DPI like a canon PIXMA 892 or MG5320. Canon professional series is the best by FAR, but costs $599- $999) And you dont need "high quality" ink, you need good ink- and you need to empty the cartridge, add iron sulphate and youll be good to go. either way, NOTHING beats Intaglio printing, like in this video. (the way real money is made)
The real Secret Service were advised & monitoring this movie when it was being shot, otherwise using the 2/head in the film would have been incriminating in 1984 & that was cutting edge back then.
I'm trying to find a movie I saw ONCE! Wasn't it Bruce Dern? He drew his money artwork HUGE and reduce it?? And he stole the special paper from a security truck?.? Is this the same movie??? I looked up all Bruce Dern movies and couldn't find it !!! Is this the movie?.??????.. I love watching it! Please someone let me know......
it was not until 1985 did the US mint start putting stripes in the paper money 5, 10, 20's, 50's and hundreds. no watermarks and the only way to tell the diffrence is the fibers in the paper cotton
Lower than 20 isn't really worth it cause you can't make much money off it. The most you can charge is 50%, but usually less, so to make any serious profit you'd have to print ridiculous amounts to make it worthwhile.
Related: why do you think you have to launder money that is counterfeit, to make it appear legitimate otherwise you would have to believe this person just came from a bank.
@jaktigmidblinx it doesnt take a rocket scientist to do this im 16 and me and my firneds had graphic communication for school and we did everything this guy did except put the money in the dryer we would put it in pop machines and it would gives us real change back then took it to the bank and got bills for the change
Best Money Making Sequence EVER!!!!!
Wang Chung soundtrack made the film very memorable. This scene was so interesting to watch the first time I saw it, still intriguing how detailed the counterfeiting scene was. One of my favorite movies of all time. Nothing even close to this good is made any longer, Hollywood is a joke !!
Jonathan E Exactly !
I dunno why, but I find this very satisfying...
One of the greatest scenes in film of all time. The film editing with "City of Angels" was masterful, down to the printing presses keeping beat with the music. Rick Masters; American bad-ass!
I want my paper.
Post to the Ghost Damn Straight ! And well said !
Willem Dafoe plays the ultimate bad guy, and his performance playing Rick Masters should've gotten him an academy award! Total bad ass in everything he does, and a most impressive actor!
Fav Movie of All Time
Back in 1985 the secret service tried desperately to get this scene deleted. Now days with color printers it's a lost cause. True counterfeiting though is done with a printing press as money is printed, not copied. It's also a breeze to counterfeit travlers checks and money orders. Counterfeiting postal money orders is so prevalent they don't even investigate the ones under $500.
Just because modern money has all the security features, does that mean you can only try to print copies of modern bills? Find some older bills from the 80's that lack the security stuff and copy those. They are still in circulation. No microprinting and no security threads, which didn't start until the early 90's. No color shifting ink. No watermarks.
Uh oh, did I just give away a secret here? ;)
a young green goblin first steps in discovering his favorite color
Four color striping, burn the plate, mix the ink, work and turn. The lost art of lithography
@Gravyballs2011
Anyone could get that model back (308 GTS) in the day, even with 1985 salaries.
It wasn't until the 1984 Testerossa that Ferraris that they became something that
only the super rich could afford. The GTS was a little more then the 1985 middle
class salary and they're still sold used for around this price today. I also must
note that a lower model was produced (208). So while he was a money
launderer, he wasn't rich by any means. In fact his car is called POC in the film
Thanks for the upload. Love this movie.
In the "Making of" feature from the DVD, Freidkin basically says they had a former counterfeiter doing all the close-up handwork in this scene where you don't see Dafoe's face. He said they were only printing money on one side, and that going any farther than that would have crossed the line legally. Although a couple of prop one-sided bills got into the hands of a crew person's kid who tried to spend them. Oops. He said that's when the feds started watching / questioning them. Thanks!
Hard to believe that was the same band who was responsible for "Everybody Wang Chung Tonight".
DAM!! Rick Masters can print more money than the FEDERAL RESERVE!!
Defoe was so epic in this movie HE WAS THE BOMB!
dunno why but this is probably my favourite scene in the film.
This scene brought back 10th grade graphic arts class. Great movie!
Some of this funny money actually made it into circulation when the film was being made
best scene ever
@Hot80s Not a mistake, he's Eric Masters' henchman, seen later in the movie.
Kids..this level of depicting a topic like reproducing currency will NEVER be demonstrated again..enjoy!..thank you 'William Friedkin'. ...
"Buddy..your in the wrong place@the wrong time"- Rick Masters
10 people disliked the fact that they can't make money as quickly as Willem Dafoe can.
Bad A$$ scene, movie and soundtrack
I used to be a typesetter, so spent many hours of my early adulthood in newspapers and print shops. Even in 1985, this would not have been feasible. You could never print passable bogus currency with an offset press. (I guess that was intentional, to discourage copycats.)
I wonder if this montage influenced the makers of Breaking Bad. Love it and the whole film (but strangely I can't exactly explain why). Please come back and direct a new film Mr Friedkin, we miss you.
He did...its called killer joe
So the dryer wrinkles and creases the bills so they look used. Normally, people assume that counterfeit currency is crisp and new. It's basically a precaution. It also dries out any ink that didn't stick on.
3:48 Money Laundering hehehe
like your work 😃
People usually check to see if $50 and $100 bills are real. People don't usually suspect a fake $20 bill. If I were to do this, I'd go even lower and make $10 bills. No one ever checks them.
you're so right about this :D
if we do it, we go to jail, if they do it, they get rich.
@jaktigmidblinx Exactly! The Secret Service knew for a fact that the $100 bill was going to be redesigned soon anyway (in 1990). However, I assume part of the reason is that they had major problems occurring at the time being with people using ordinary printers to make counterfeit bills.
Been trying to figure out what movie this scene was from for at least 20 years.
Back when Willum dafoe was young and good lookin.!!
it wears down the fake bills to look used & also to hide any imperfections.
@GARYindeed
thats his crime partner, the dude that shoots the Secret Service agent in the head with the twelve gauge shotgun when the SSA comes snooping around the place.
Buddy, "you're in the wrong place at the wrong time" or lines close to that.
Same serial numbers, same iD numbers, no watermark, no security stripes and he's probably using commerically available paper. Just a matter of time before this dude regrets doing it. MAD MOVIE THO!
awesome movie and music by wang chung
@pynchonfan i dont think they had a choice. the secret service forced them to make it unrealistic, so it wouldn't be a tutorial. if i remember correctly ,they were forced to change this scene around. it's not the way they wanted to shoot it, and they were originally going to show exactly how to counterfeit
yeah money from the early 80s had less security measures that for sure
Like your work?
goldenmoleful still drivin that POS?
goldenmoleful you're beatiful.
Go be a printer, go get some ink, and start print'in up some more of that shit.
Big bills ain't popular in dis neighborhood.
Yo somebody give me a link where i can buy a printer like that
uneven movie, but this scene is really good
@Hot80s What is the proportion of ink? I am just curious
What was the purpose of the poker chips?
75% linen 15% flax other ten is "secret" but at least 5% is starch, and red and blue yarn fibers. (and NO, NOT a lexmark, lol. go with something doing 9600 DPI like a canon PIXMA 892 or MG5320. Canon professional series is the best by FAR, but costs $599- $999) And you dont need "high quality" ink, you need good ink- and you need to empty the cartridge, add iron sulphate and youll be good to go. either way, NOTHING beats Intaglio printing, like in this video. (the way real money is made)
The real Secret Service were advised & monitoring this movie when it was being shot, otherwise using the 2/head in the film would have been incriminating in 1984 & that was cutting edge back then.
I'm trying to find a movie I saw ONCE! Wasn't it Bruce Dern? He drew his money artwork HUGE and reduce it?? And he stole the special paper from a security truck?.? Is this the same movie??? I looked up all Bruce Dern movies and couldn't find it !!! Is this the movie?.??????.. I love watching it! Please someone let me know......
amen
it was not until 1985 did the US mint start putting stripes in the paper money 5, 10, 20's, 50's and hundreds. no watermarks and the only way to tell the diffrence is the fibers in the paper cotton
lol, This was before security strips, before watermarks, but yeah same SN's and same mint marks and yes probably commercial paper.
Lower than 20 isn't really worth it cause you can't make much money off it. The most you can charge is 50%, but usually less, so to make any serious profit you'd have to print ridiculous amounts to make it worthwhile.
@GARYindeed i think hes sopose to be closeing the door, i dont think that was a slip up
oh yes but where is one to find this equiptment
@zekehooper "To Live and Die in L.A"
Yes very good to teach the movie-going public the fine art of counterfeiting. Why should only The Fed be allowed to birth money into existence?
know it is called to live and die in l.a. and it is from 1985
i want to get a hold of these inks and chemicals
what the name of this movie if u know it ?
TheRegimelife
You forgot red & blue sweaters and a tumble dryer.
Vaultboy101 and the plastic poker chips... lol
To Live and Die in L.A. made in 1985
what movie is this from?
Holy crap, you and me both! If they did, it would probably be handed over to Michael Bay, and it would suck so hard.
Old movie. Today it's kids with the office printer making it.
Whats the name of this movie?
20 dollar bill from 1981A series...that is the 20 dollar bill which i am collecting
Yea Baby, um ready to take on the World now!
awesome
i can probably make counterfits with my friend i need to know wat type of paper he used
Related: why do you think you have to launder money that is counterfeit, to make it appear legitimate otherwise you would have to believe this person just came from a bank.
yeah! .watching it makes me wanna do Lol!
To give the money a rough, "used" look.
what the name of this movie never seen it look interesting ?
The E.M. Mint
why did he put the cash in the dryer???
@jaktigmidblinx
lol the character in this movie is an artpainter so hes got money already... but kinda seeks thrills in a bad way like Chance.
Movie?
lol that way to much work to risk getting busted
Lol, most people leave their house every day to earn money-this guy visits his secret warehouse day after day and MAKES money! rofl
nice movie
@STalKerXHACK
"To Live and Die in LA"
I'm going after Masters pow!
First you have to pay 10928748091375 dollar to get the equipment
did dafoe and friedkin really get into trouble for making real bills.
if only I could do it
Isn't that just the guy who ends up hiding on the property with the shot gun? I don't think it's a blooper...it's a character.
as the name of this film
cool
1:26
youd rather go to work everyday?
to make it look used
He needed some quick cash!
I thought it was because they had to "smell" like money.
@jaktigmidblinx
it doesnt take a rocket scientist to do this im 16 and me and my firneds had graphic communication for school and we did everything this guy did except put the money in the dryer we would put it in pop machines and it would gives us real change back then took it to the bank and got bills for the change
Why didn't he just burn the garbage?
@MAC616 Then don't.
I know this movie
Are you serious?
A 2 head Multi or a true 2 color Ryobi would have been better.
Fuck Heidelberg presses. Royal linen stock
to live and die in l.a