The historic Western hardrock mines have been hit hard by all the internet attention, so good on you for keeping obscure (and rather "complete") mines like this away from the hordes; unfortunately it seems the best policy is to mention no details whatsoever. Even these more modern mines are becoming rare to find in this condition. I don't post anything online anymore, which sucks, but that's, as you put it first, "the world we live in" - the scrappers, vandals and "boneheads" are always waiting in the wings. To everyone else who reads this comment - please do your part, however small, to help protect this history so that future generations may enjoy these sites. Great tour!
Wow! What a huge mine. Enough timber to build 5 houses on one level. Some pretty sketchy areas. Definitely some high quality video. Thanks Gly and Laura for taking me along.
Thanks for taking us along and protecting this Gem. These places were visited for decades without Boneheads and Jamokes wrecking them, now almost every mine you visit has been vandalized. This one has had some minor damage but mostly "protected" over the years, hope it stays that way!! Thanks Gly.
America's old growth forests were what was cut down to prop these mines up, and this foolheaded videographer wants to talk about disrespect is the world we live in. Talk about short sighted.
@@jasonlambert5552 Guess you would find fault with anything feel sorry for you indeed, by the way the wood didn't come from old growth forests do some research , American old growth forests where not in Nevada nor many other places he visits. Sorry about the inconvenient truth have a great day.
Thank you for sharing this amazing find, Gly! I just love these museum mines! Good on you for protecting the mines location as well. I hope the vultures stay away, lol Also, I'm glad you have the lovely Laura with you! She's truly an asset and a wonderful companion! ❤
The amount of infrastructure in this mine is absolutely mind blowing. Hard to contemplate the amount of work it took to get all of that timber in there and put in place.
OMG there's a whole forest worth of timbering in this mine. In WWII era, tungsten was also used for munitions, for armor piercing rounds and that sort of stuff.
Incredible find!! Don't you Dare reveal your location! Now... we have to wait until next week to see the next levels? You're killing us, Gly... Laura....
What a mine, I really Love that most of it is still in tacked. Looking forward to next Saturday's explore of the deeper areas. Gly and Laura stay safe and enjoy each new discovery.
Thanks for that. Now I finally have the last piece of information to fill in my knowledge. Now, my GRAND PLAN can swing into action 🎬 👌 😎 😀 "Who ha ha ha ha!" .... [and off he goes....]
Super cool video. I used to work putting in the square sets but nothing on this scale. The amount of work that went into this level is amazing and I bet the lower levels are going to be even better. Can’t wait to see next weeks episode. Laura, you are definitely a terrific addition to the show. Your commentary is right on point. You guys stay safe and healthy
It's strange because I love the drone footage. I think because I live in the UK i'm not used to NV/AZ landscapes so I probably get more out of it. Unless of course you're not in the US too that would blow my theory out of the water. lol.
@@chubbrock659 Interesting, my theory is dead in the water then, lol. Obviously personal preference then. but, yeah I love the Drones. thanks for the reply bud.
Great video! That is definitely one of our favorite mines to explore. Fun all the way to the bottom, but then, all those ladders back up. Great work! Thanks for keeping it safe.
What a find, i did some searching in a civil eng, site that gave me a few mine location, and i found this one, awesome setup, looking forward to next weeks video.
Your hype is well founded! I can't wait to see all the epispdes of this mine. Good teamwork! Also looking forward to the ones you two have to rope into.
Gly, yes, to preserve certain mines, secrecy is a must. Lets Rock. Museum mines are so cool in every respect. All those timbers, expense was not spared, a forest inside a mountain. 300 ' mark it. Spotted that grizzly even before he said it. So far, this is an awesome adventure. My father would organise tools in a chest in the trunk of the vehicle, he'd know if we were speeding. That mess you pointed out, some people just don't care.
78/79 I would have been just a little guy. Fun , These video's are the only way I'd explore mines, I'm to chicken to go in, I'd be afraid of getting lost
As you two started, one is already impressed with the timbering. At 16:31, going thru another section, the miners double enforced all the walls with square set & timbers, & posts!!! Wow! Gly said at the begining that this mine was pulling in lots dollars per day, so the company that ran this operation could purchase & pay for the labor to have all this safety, reinforcement done. None the less, lots & lots of labor, not counting the actual moving of the ore. Pretty impressive. Thanks for the energies you two expended on documented todays "finds".
The most incredible artifact down there was a "inhouse." All in all those ore cars were massive, those square sets were so beautiful. I'm glad to see something that has beaten the Thunder Ridge Mine. This mine is just spectacular. Like the other mine channels when they find a ore car, they would push it, I wish you did that Gly, but it still was an amazing mine. Those collapses are nasty. Great video Gly!
@@007Aloysius I don’t remember terrible with names thunder ridge? Bridge and stairs … Was that what he was calling it 🤷♂️ the one old bob went in just recall some dunce commenting it was staged 🤦♂️ as if Gly was actually standing 50ft away and bob just came rolling by 🤭🤣
You guy's are a good couple. It's hard to find someone who shares the same passions especially mine explorations. Thanks for your hard work doing these video's.
@@colleenvarlow8764 🤔👍 relax just being facetious 😆 so you like to see things in the raw eh!! 😳🤭🤣 hopefully he’ll stumble across some samples that fell off the cart 👍✌️🤙
Laura and Cly what an absolute fantastic mine , looking at all the timbers at what cost you think to do ? , I don’t think you would tell Frank about this one’s location , can’t wait for next video , Cheers. .
Gly and Laura his and her ore carts. What a magnificent piece of history. Gly this may have out did the THE THUNDER RIDGE MINE???what an impressive mine. It’s almost as if it could start operating anytime again. Things were left as is. Looking forward to what’s beyond 😊😊
“Gly”: Thanks Tina! This place is absolutely huge and would take multiple days to explore it all but we did a pretty good job being down in there for nearly 6 hours.
Hi there Gly! I must say your looking MUCH better than when i seen you in a video sometime ago. Also happy uou found a great mine explore partner! Very much safer so kudos to you! 👍 And i totally agree keeping those mines secret. Wayyy too many vandals and thieves nowadays. Keep history preserved and leave things to modern miners that may actually be able to use that stuff again. Repurpose if you will. Vandals and thieves dont rgaf about any of that... Only to destroy what they can just ao they can get a cheap laugh. Thats why i say keep those mines secret.
Wow wow wow awesome mine ! And all the artifacts ! Glad you don’t reveal the area / location! And yes that is ridiculous dumping all the trash cans over ! Can not wait till next weekend ! Totally awesome mine site ! Be safe see you next weekend ! 🙂👍🏻
Note the cribbing they used is what is called peeler logs from the mill, which is the remanent of making plywood. Today you see this at Home Depot and Lowes as fencing rails & post or land scape rails for planter boxes.
The wood supplier to that mining operation must have been able to retire years & maybe decades early 🤔😜. Massive amounts of giant timbers and supports on just that 200 ft level alone . Imagine having to haul all that down those shafts in cages & then manhandling them upright & overhead & wedging them all into place ……. 😵💫. Boggles my mind sometimes the lengths that those guys go through to support the inner workings inside those mountains of materials , plus all the work that goes into drilling, blasting, mucking & hauling all of it outta the ground to go ever deeper….. Enjoyed this one Gly & Laura . Stay safe you two. And use your “ Common senses” to pick & choose your battles underground, because your lives are worth more than massive views . C-ya soon hopefully on whatever you post next . 😎👍
I was wondering if there was a way to claim the mine to protect it, or if it’s already been claimed or privately owned? Just wondering how there would be a way to lock it up to protect its integrity. Keep up the good work enjoyed the tour
“Gly”: Yes, this mine can be purchased for a very unreasonable price. It would be best if the state took possession of it and turned it into a historical landmark before it’s vandalized.
Tungsten, what was the ore mineral they were going after, and why use cyanide, I thought that was pretty much a gold extraction method? What an exciting and scary mine. Those broken timbers... Whew! Glad you were able to get out alive, and post!
“Gly”: Cyanide will pretty much leach out all minerals from the ore. How you process that concentrate in the end is what determines your mineral recovery.
Thoroughly enjoyed this exploration, most ore carts I've seen in one site. Would have been fun to see you two stage a pic standing in a cart. Regrettable to see vandals having gone so far out of the way to dump trash bins in an old mine.
Any idea what's going on at Pine Creek, California? Some friends and I got a tour of the mine and mill in the early 70s. Lotta tungsten mines in the area, all closed now AFAIK, and extremely challenging to visit because of the altitude, but someone who was altitude acclimated might have fun up there...nice find in your video - don't forget to bring a UV lamp! Cheers...
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The historic Western hardrock mines have been hit hard by all the internet attention, so good on you for keeping obscure (and rather "complete") mines like this away from the hordes; unfortunately it seems the best policy is to mention no details whatsoever. Even these more modern mines are becoming rare to find in this condition. I don't post anything online anymore, which sucks, but that's, as you put it first, "the world we live in" - the scrappers, vandals and "boneheads" are always waiting in the wings. To everyone else who reads this comment - please do your part, however small, to help protect this history so that future generations may enjoy these sites. Great tour!
Sounds like you’ve been to this one lol.
This mine is patented property, and, it's for sale for 1.2mil
@@AUMINER1 I'd believe it!
@@stalbaum that helped me find it. We are headed out there this week
Yup. People will go there and DESTROY it along with leaving their trash and filthy writing everywhere.
Beyond Happy to see Gly not only having a Blast doing what He loves, but also Now with a Companion. Couldn't happen to a Nicer Guy!
Wow! What a huge mine. Enough timber to build 5 houses on one level. Some pretty sketchy areas. Definitely some high quality video. Thanks Gly and Laura for taking me along.
Thanks for taking us along and protecting this Gem. These places were visited for decades without Boneheads and Jamokes wrecking them, now almost every mine you visit has been vandalized.
This one has had some minor damage but mostly "protected" over the years, hope it stays that way!! Thanks Gly.
😁🍻Jamokes!! Nailed it!!
Every time I go to this site there is something else missing or vandalized since the last visit. Glad you are documenting it while it's still there.
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences with me Gly and Laura ❤ amazing footage.
You are hitting home runs now! Subscribe folks! Laura and Gly are just getting started! Rock on Team!
I'm in awe of the amount of trees that were cut down to create the timbering needed to hold up the mine. 🇨🇦
Likewise.
America's old growth forests were what was cut down to prop these mines up, and this foolheaded videographer wants to talk about disrespect is the world we live in. Talk about short sighted.
@@jasonlambert5552 Guess you would find fault with anything feel sorry for you indeed, by the way the wood didn't come from old growth forests do some research , American old growth forests where not in Nevada nor many other places he visits. Sorry about the inconvenient truth have a great day.
@TheSilmarillian guess you've never heard of the bristle cone pine, maybe learn about about actual history, not just "iant seen no trees hurr durr. "
Thank you for sharing this amazing find, Gly! I just love these museum mines! Good on you for protecting the mines location as well. I hope the vultures stay away, lol
Also, I'm glad you have the lovely Laura with you! She's truly an asset and a wonderful companion! ❤
The amount of infrastructure in this mine is absolutely mind blowing. Hard to contemplate the amount of work it took to get all of that timber in there and put in place.
Wow
Just WOW
Mind blowing explore and big thanks to you Gly and Lady Laura
And massive respect to you for keeping this one out of the public domain 👍
One of the best videos so far!. What a great mine. You and Laura make a great team.
OMG there's a whole forest worth of timbering in this mine. In WWII era, tungsten was also used for munitions, for armor piercing rounds and that sort of stuff.
Incredible find!! Don't you Dare reveal your location! Now... we have to wait until next week to see the next levels? You're killing us, Gly... Laura....
Modern mines are intriguing, too! Fun to see the advancement in technology when you compare it to a 100+ year old mine.
Thanks, G&L! Stay safe!!
I would say modern to a point can also be intriguing. Today's mines are an eyesore.
Keep doing your thing, these mine explorations just get better and better!!
Great great video Gly n Laura,look forward to part 2,next Saturday thanks guys❤
What a mine, I really Love that most of it is still in tacked. Looking forward to next Saturday's explore of the deeper areas. Gly and Laura stay safe and enjoy each new discovery.
By the time we reach the end of the summer season, Laura will be set up to produce her own TH-cam channel!
I agree with you about not showing the start. These mines should be historical landmarks. Definitely the very old one.
I enjoy watching you two. Very informative and your wife is up for the mine travel
Love it..
They also needed tungsten for Vacuum tubes. So up until the advent of transistors, the need for tungsten was probably the highest humanity ever had.
Thanks for that.
Now I finally have the last piece of information to fill in my knowledge.
Now, my GRAND PLAN can swing into action 🎬 👌 😎 😀
"Who ha ha ha ha!" ....
[and off he goes....]
@Gma7788 millions of dollars worth of tungsten has been brought to the white house. It's said it's installed into bidens brain to keep the lights on.
Tungsten has the same weight as gold so it's often used to plate over with 24kt gold to create fake gold bricks.
thx for sharing this mines, and not saying where is, that keeps the history safe!
Super cool video. I used to work putting in the square sets but nothing on this scale. The amount of work that went into this level is amazing and I bet the lower levels are going to be even better. Can’t wait to see next weeks episode. Laura, you are definitely a terrific addition to the show. Your commentary is right on point. You guys stay safe and healthy
Thank you Gly and Laura .
Wow, Great mine! Looking forward to more.
Be still my heart; two non drone videos in one week. Hubby said all it was missing was the butt scratch .
It's strange because I love the drone footage. I think because I live in the UK i'm not used to NV/AZ landscapes so I probably get more out of it. Unless of course you're not in the US too that would blow my theory out of the water. lol.
@@Paddy_RocheI live in the states and I agree with you, I like the drone shots
@@chubbrock659 Interesting, my theory is dead in the water then, lol. Obviously personal preference then. but, yeah I love the Drones. thanks for the reply bud.
@@Paddy_Roche it helps that I live in the desert southwest so this terrain is familiar to me, but I still enjoy seeing the aerial views
It just gets better and better😊
This is a good one. Thanks Laura and Gly for showing it!
this was just amazing. It just fascinates me what people did back then. how hard people worked.
Great video! That is definitely one of our favorite mines to explore. Fun all the way to the bottom, but then, all those ladders back up. Great work! Thanks for keeping it safe.
Such an exciting mine! Thank you and Laura for taking the time to take us all along!
Thanks Gly and Lora.
When you see that grin on Gly's face, you know it's something big. 😊
Thank you for showing us that mine
Great mine tour! Thanks for sharing and keeping it's location a hidden. The timbering is outstanding.
another GREAT mine Gly and Laura , cant wait to see the next few episodes, keep up the good work guys 👍👍
Amazing video. Can't believe how much timbering goes on.😊
Just love looking at all the wood work, going to hold my breath till next Saturday, ok here I go.............
What an amazing mine! Can’t wait to see what else you and Laura find next week! Thanks for another great episode! (As usual)
What a find, i did some searching in a civil eng, site that gave me a few mine location, and i found this one, awesome setup, looking forward to next weeks video.
Wow. One of your best explores Gly and Laura. Fantastic find!
Well that was pretty impressive. Thanks Laura and Gly! See you next week, same bat time, same bat channel! 😂😂😂
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Fantastic. I can't wait to see more. This will probably be one of the best you've shown us to date.
As always hoss, we'll done and I admire you two for your commitment to preservation of our history and possible future
Good guy Gly 😊
this is gripping stuff , cant wait till next weekend thanks gly and laura
That was a great mine. Fantastic video!!!!! 🤠🤠🤠
Good morning from Syracuse NY everyone thank you for sharing your adventures and information and safety first always everyone
Safety yeehaw
Morning Syracuse ☕️ ☀️ 🙋♂️
A great explore Gly and Laura. Thanks for sharing .
Its been years following you sir… good videos!!… love from malaysia
I had so much fun hanging with you all. I feel I am right there I would be if I could. That sure is a big mine. GOD bless you both see you next time.
Incredible video!!! Thanks!
Yaaay!!! I luuuuuv tungsten! So glad you showed us this one!❤❤
Fantastic footage. That is one interest mine. Hard to believe the amount of timber that was used. Can't wait for the next episode.
Great job guys.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Your hype is well founded! I can't wait to see all the epispdes of this mine. Good teamwork! Also looking forward to the ones you two have to rope into.
Gly and Laura those cracked Post have just about Releaved themself's Glad they held on for the video!!
Awesome mine there is a lot of timber. Wish I could been there with you guys.
Morning, such a cool mine. Great job of showing it as usual. I can't wait to see the next installment. Stay safe
Wow, just wow. Amazing place. Great explore both, stay safe as always. Love to you both xx
Gly, yes, to preserve certain mines, secrecy is a must. Lets Rock. Museum mines are so cool in every respect. All those timbers, expense was not spared, a forest inside a mountain. 300 ' mark it. Spotted that grizzly even before he said it. So far, this is an awesome adventure. My father would organise tools in a chest in the trunk of the vehicle, he'd know if we were speeding. That mess you pointed out, some people just don't care.
78/79 I would have been just a little guy. Fun , These video's are the only way I'd explore mines, I'm to chicken to go in, I'd be afraid of getting lost
This is a really exciting mine to explore, I can't wait until next week. Thank you so much for all that you do.
Wow, just wow! Looks like this will be a 3fer or even a 4fer. Thanks for taking you time and showing us everything.
Thanks for the great explore video. I'm looking forward to next week and the next level.
As you two started, one is already impressed with the timbering. At 16:31, going thru another section, the miners double enforced all the walls with square set & timbers, & posts!!! Wow! Gly said at the begining that this mine was pulling in lots dollars per day, so the company that ran this operation could purchase & pay for the labor to have all this safety, reinforcement done. None the less, lots & lots of labor, not counting the actual moving of the ore. Pretty impressive. Thanks for the energies you two expended on documented todays "finds".
The most incredible artifact down there was a "inhouse." All in all those ore cars were massive, those square sets were so beautiful. I'm glad to see something that has beaten the Thunder Ridge Mine. This mine is just spectacular. Like the other mine channels when they find a ore car, they would push it, I wish you did that Gly, but it still was an amazing mine. Those collapses are nasty. Great video Gly!
Of all of your videos, this one is one of the most impressive mines you have visited!
It could be but unless Gly coolness builds a bridge and stairs not even close 😆 personally I like the one where Old Bob went into a mine!!! 👍🤣
That would be the museum mine.
@@007Aloysius I don’t remember terrible with names thunder ridge? Bridge and stairs … Was that what he was calling it 🤷♂️ the one old bob went in just recall some dunce commenting it was staged 🤦♂️ as if Gly was actually standing 50ft away and bob just came rolling by 🤭🤣
Great Episode well done Gly and Laura. this is winner and on the watch again bucket list . Australia Watching and getting sleepy 1.30 am
You guy's are a good couple. It's hard to find someone who shares the same passions especially mine explorations. Thanks for your hard work doing these video's.
I love secret mines!
Nice job
Excellent mine Gly. Wondering if you could show us what tungsten looks like? Hey thanks Gly and Laura. Good job.
Haha bust open a light bulb 🤭
@@rawbsworld6604 I wanna see it dug out of the mine.
@@colleenvarlow8764 🤔👍 relax just being facetious 😆 so you like to see things in the raw eh!! 😳🤭🤣 hopefully he’ll stumble across some samples that fell off the cart 👍✌️🤙
@@rawbsworld6604 It's all good.
Coolest mine yet👍 bubble up soda est 1919 Sandusky Ohio
Thank you.
Laura and Cly what an absolute fantastic mine , looking at all the timbers at what cost you think to do ? , I don’t think you would tell Frank about this one’s location , can’t wait for next video , Cheers. .
What a mine, what a team.
Yeah, crazy to think that the Copper Queen Mine, in Bisbee, has 143 miles of tunnels on five different levels and had 3,000 miners working 24/7...
Amazing find!! Glad you chose not to show the topside, this one is definitely one that needs to stay off the radar!! 😮
Gly and Laura his and her ore carts. What a magnificent piece of history. Gly this may have out did the THE THUNDER RIDGE MINE???what an impressive mine. It’s almost as if it could start operating anytime again. Things were left as is. Looking forward to what’s beyond 😊😊
“Gly”: Thanks Tina! This place is absolutely huge and would take multiple days to explore it all but we did a pretty good job being down in there for nearly 6 hours.
@@AbandonedandForgottenPlaces yes well worth the time frame
Hi there Gly! I must say your looking MUCH better than when i seen you in a video sometime ago. Also happy uou found a great mine explore partner! Very much safer so kudos to you! 👍
And i totally agree keeping those mines secret. Wayyy too many vandals and thieves nowadays. Keep history preserved and leave things to modern miners that may actually be able to use that stuff again. Repurpose if you will. Vandals and thieves dont rgaf about any of that... Only to destroy what they can just ao they can get a cheap laugh. Thats why i say keep those mines secret.
Wow wow wow awesome mine ! And all the artifacts ! Glad you don’t reveal the area / location! And yes that is ridiculous dumping all the trash cans over ! Can not wait till next weekend ! Totally awesome mine site ! Be safe see you next weekend ! 🙂👍🏻
Note the cribbing they used is what is called peeler logs from the mill, which is the remanent of making plywood. Today you see this at Home Depot and Lowes as fencing rails & post or land scape rails for planter boxes.
The wood supplier to that mining operation must have been able to retire years & maybe decades early 🤔😜. Massive amounts of giant timbers and supports on just that 200 ft level alone . Imagine having to haul all that down those shafts in cages & then manhandling them upright & overhead & wedging them all into place ……. 😵💫. Boggles my mind sometimes the lengths that those guys go through to support the inner workings inside those mountains of materials , plus all the work that goes into drilling, blasting, mucking & hauling all of it outta the ground to go ever deeper….. Enjoyed this one Gly & Laura . Stay safe you two. And use your “ Common senses” to pick & choose your battles underground, because your lives are worth more than massive views . C-ya soon hopefully on whatever you post next . 😎👍
Back then there were very few mine rules and regs so nowadays the Fed regs in mine safety make most underground mined impossibly expensive to work
Tungsten is also a strategic metal important to the US Military.
Yeah they are using tungsten in bidens brain to keep the lights on
Another fabulous adventure! Must have been nice to walk in instead of crawling on your belly? Lol....😊
Great video an I agree boneheads ruined everything. And what Laura said “can’t have nice things” as well thanks guys for making this video
Amazing!
I enjoyed that, thank you both. ;^)
Awesome exploring Gly and Laura. Nice finds, and the woodworking is amazing.
Gly , did the ore carts move and tip?
Pete Australia 🇦🇺
Gly you could send Laura in those dangerous areas and that way you can stay safe 😊
Wow 🤦♂️ why he do that ? 😡 it’s cool Laura rest of us don’t want you to be the sacrificial 🐑 😱
But if he did that and something happened, how would he retrieve the camera footage??
Gly the rally don't kill you it's the sudden stop at the bottom that gets you, but in your case you would serve both and walk away lol.
🤦♂️ seriously? Your not insinuating Glycoolness is a bumble are you? Cuz bumbles bounce 🤣🤣
there's a lot of forest underneath the ground there, I might know were you guys are. Stay safe and All the best
I was wondering if there was a way to claim the mine to protect it, or if it’s already been claimed or privately owned? Just wondering how there would be a way to lock it up to protect its integrity. Keep up the good work enjoyed the tour
“Gly”: Yes, this mine can be purchased for a very unreasonable price. It would be best if the state took possession of it and turned it into a historical landmark before it’s vandalized.
Lady Laura ❤️
Tungsten, what was the ore mineral they were going after, and why use cyanide, I thought that was pretty much a gold extraction method? What an exciting and scary mine. Those broken timbers... Whew! Glad you were able to get out alive, and post!
“Gly”: Cyanide will pretty much leach out all minerals from the ore. How you process that concentrate in the end is what determines your mineral recovery.
Question gly, why don't you two camp at site instead of driving back and forth. A camp inside of the mine would be amazing to see
Caught Laura peeking in the honey pot.... Was it empty Laura 😂😂😂
Thoroughly enjoyed this exploration, most ore carts I've seen in one site. Would have been fun to see you two stage a pic standing in a cart. Regrettable to see vandals having gone so far out of the way to dump trash bins in an old mine.
Any idea what's going on at Pine Creek, California? Some friends and I got a tour of the mine and mill in the early 70s.
Lotta tungsten mines in the area, all closed now AFAIK, and extremely challenging to visit because of the altitude, but someone who was altitude acclimated might have fun up there...nice find in your video - don't forget to bring a UV lamp! Cheers...
You need Canadian Frank to explore the "Rough" areas!
I hear that even Frank has his limits.
“Gly”: Trust me, even Frank has his limits, I’ve seen it with my own eyes.
The guys at Lost and Buried covered those areas.